The Michael Knowles Show - July 08, 2022


Ep. 1042 - Breaking News: Creepy Drag Queen Perverts Are Creepy Perverts


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

175.71608

Word Count

9,521

Sentence Count

694

Misogynist Sentences

36

Hate Speech Sentences

30


Summary

A Pennsylvania man who spends all of his time thinking about deviant sex and little kids, turns out that guy has a sexual interest in kids. Can you believe it? The news comes as an especially tough blow to groups such as Drag Queen Story Hour, which keeps having the rotten luck of repeatedly associating with child rapists.


Transcript

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00:00:36.660 We have shocking news.
00:00:38.980 A drag queen performer and self-styled LGBTQ plus youth advisor
00:00:44.960 has just been caught with a bunch of child pornography.
00:00:49.860 Yes, yes.
00:00:51.340 According to the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office,
00:00:54.220 it turns out that a man who spends all of his time thinking about deviant sex and little kids,
00:01:01.800 a man who puts on sexually charged performances specifically for kids,
00:01:07.640 turns out that guy has a sexual interest in kids.
00:01:11.960 Can you believe it?
00:01:13.180 The news comes as an especially tough blow to groups such as Drag Queen Story Hour,
00:01:19.960 which keeps having the rotten luck of repeatedly associating with child rapists.
00:01:25.180 What are the odds?
00:01:25.920 It comes as a shock to people who are so blinded by their own ideology
00:01:30.860 that they can't see the plain reality right in front of their face.
00:01:34.640 And it comes as an important lesson to everybody.
00:01:37.760 If you play stupid games, you will win stupid prizes.
00:01:43.500 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:01:44.600 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:53.580 Welcome back to the show.
00:01:54.700 My favorite comment yesterday is from Jordan Elizabeth, who says,
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00:03:42.140 If you play stupid games, you will win stupid prizes.
00:03:45.780 If you encourage sexual deviants, big, hairy, husky dudes who put on skimpy little women's
00:03:52.400 outfits and stiletto heels, and they have a real strange interest in jiggling around
00:03:57.640 for little kids, I think probably you're going to wind up with guys who have a sexual interest
00:04:04.100 in little kids.
00:04:04.760 That's what's going to happen.
00:04:05.640 It's not just on the weird sex stuff that this rule holds true.
00:04:08.560 It holds true everywhere.
00:04:09.660 There's a video that was going viral yesterday.
00:04:12.520 It's about a poor bodega worker, Jose Alba.
00:04:15.300 He's a 61-year-old bodega worker.
00:04:18.060 He was in New York, I believe, and he was attacked by a career criminal.
00:04:23.740 The career criminal's name is Austin Simon.
00:04:26.240 Austin Simon, this big, hulking dude, walks behind toward this somewhat elderly bodega
00:04:32.980 owner, goes behind the counter, starts pushing him around, won't let him get up, won't let
00:04:37.860 him move, and then they get into a scrap.
00:04:39.660 The big career criminal guy's girlfriend apparently stabs the bodega worker, and then the bodega
00:04:49.500 worker stabs the big, hulking guy to death.
00:04:52.860 We actually have the clip of this, so we have security camera footage, which is really, really
00:04:58.020 important because of how corrupt our criminal justice system has become.
00:05:02.440 Now, take a look at this.
00:05:04.740 If you're listening right now, I will narrate it for you.
00:05:06.840 You see this big, hulking dude wearing what is apparently a very expensive t-shirt, and
00:05:11.340 he pushes the bodega guy, this older guy, who's smaller, he's older.
00:05:17.160 Apparently, they got into a fight because this criminal's girlfriend didn't have 75 cents,
00:05:21.760 and so the bodega guy said, well, you can't, if you don't have the money, you can't buy
00:05:25.240 the product.
00:05:26.740 So this guy goes behind the counter, starts pushing him around, really gets up in his
00:05:31.920 face, and the bodega guy, he's just, he's just kind of sitting there.
00:05:35.220 He's trying to get, he's trying to walk away, but the criminal won't let him get away.
00:05:39.140 The criminal starts really beating him up.
00:05:40.900 Now the bodega guy starts bleeding.
00:05:43.300 It's not good.
00:05:44.220 And then, now we're off camera at this point.
00:05:46.280 Apparently, the girlfriend, I guess, had already stabbed the bodega guy at this point.
00:05:52.160 It's a little unclear because you're off camera.
00:05:55.280 Next thing you know, though, what the criminal didn't count on was the bodega guy grabs a
00:06:02.480 knife and stabs the criminal.
00:06:04.920 So the criminal goes down.
00:06:07.600 The bodega guy is bloodied, but he's holding a knife now, and he's taken down this thug
00:06:13.540 who was pushing him around and trying to steal his stuff and not even letting him retreat.
00:06:18.000 The bodega guy's trying to leave.
00:06:19.840 He's, he's trying to extricate himself from the situation.
00:06:22.620 The criminal won't let him do it.
00:06:24.200 Guess who gets charged with a crime?
00:06:27.140 Guess who gets, you know, you know the answer because of the state of our, of the state of
00:06:33.160 our justice system.
00:06:34.060 So there's a racial element here.
00:06:36.240 The criminal is a black guy, and the bodega guy is Hispanic, I guess, with a name like
00:06:40.860 Jose Alba, but Hispanics are borderline white these days.
00:06:44.920 And so you've got this racial element at play.
00:06:47.940 And then you've got what's even more at play here in New York.
00:06:52.800 You've got a preference for criminals and a disadvantage for victims.
00:06:58.100 There's no way you can watch that video and say that the bodega guy is, is the aggressor.
00:07:03.520 There's no way you can watch that video and say that this criminal is the victim.
00:07:06.800 And when I say criminal, by the way, this guy's got a rap sheet a mile long.
00:07:09.960 This guy was already out on parole for assaulting a cop at the time of this deadly encounter.
00:07:15.640 He has, at the very least, eight prior arrests for assault, for robbery, for assault during
00:07:21.080 a domestic dispute, on and on.
00:07:23.640 Those are just the ones that we know about.
00:07:26.100 And so what happens?
00:07:27.260 The poor bodega guy who's defending himself gets arrested.
00:07:30.040 And the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, who is entirely pro-criminal and anti-victim,
00:07:35.740 he's throwing him in the can with a sky-high bail.
00:07:38.080 The bail for this bodega guy is a quarter million dollars.
00:07:41.200 You think bodega guys have a quarter million dollars lying around?
00:07:43.840 I don't.
00:07:44.980 And by the way, the DA wanted a higher bail.
00:07:46.820 The DA wanted a $500,000 bail.
00:07:50.640 But the court lowered it to a quarter million dollars.
00:07:53.460 It won't matter.
00:07:53.960 There's no way the bodega guy's going to pay it.
00:07:55.520 There is nothing compassionate about what these people are doing, what the DA and the courts
00:08:04.640 and this corrupt justice system, they think they're being compassionate, or at the least
00:08:08.160 they say they're being compassionate.
00:08:09.700 Oh, these poor criminals.
00:08:11.040 We have to feel bad for the criminals.
00:08:12.340 Ignore the victims.
00:08:13.680 Ignore the guys getting pushed around and threatened and attacked.
00:08:17.020 We just have to feel really bad.
00:08:18.280 Gosh, can you imagine how society must have failed?
00:08:22.720 What's his name?
00:08:23.340 Austin Simon.
00:08:24.480 Oh, that darn society making him commit at least eight prior crimes and then attack this
00:08:30.560 bodega guy.
00:08:31.340 And then in an act of self-defense, the bodega guy stabs him.
00:08:35.700 Because Austin Simon played very stupid games and got into a fight and attacked a man over
00:08:43.020 a bag of potato chips over 75 cents and lost his life because of it.
00:08:48.380 I do feel bad for Austin Simon.
00:08:49.940 I don't feel bad for him in the sense that I don't think that this bodega guy should be
00:08:55.600 thrown in prison or charged with any crime.
00:08:58.200 Bodega guy was completely, completely justified.
00:09:01.380 I feel bad for Austin Simon because he's an idiot.
00:09:05.840 And I feel bad for Austin Simon because of the way that I feel bad for all criminals.
00:09:10.320 They've gone down a bad path.
00:09:11.960 They are harming not only society, but they're harming themselves.
00:09:14.760 Socrates wrote about this.
00:09:16.400 Or well, Plato wrote about this in the voice of Socrates.
00:09:19.060 That we really should pity criminals because they're harming themselves.
00:09:22.420 As they injure other people, they're really injuring themselves.
00:09:25.140 They're injuring their own souls.
00:09:26.980 And then this guy winds up dead in a bodega because he played stupid games and he had to
00:09:31.340 win stupid prizes.
00:09:32.560 Furthermore, though, if this DA, if this court, if this criminal justice system were tougher
00:09:40.800 on criminals, fewer Austin Simons would end up dead.
00:09:44.840 If this guy, Austin Simon, didn't think that he could just walk into a bodega and because
00:09:50.420 of political correctness and because of intersectionality and because of soft on crime policies, he could
00:09:56.180 just do whatever he wants, steal whatever he wants, push whoever he wants around and nothing's
00:09:59.740 going to happen.
00:10:00.700 And if anyone tries to arrest him, the cop is going to be the one who gets lambasted in
00:10:04.840 the media, not the criminal.
00:10:05.960 If he didn't think that he could go in there and harm people and commit crimes with impunity,
00:10:10.520 he'd be less likely to do it.
00:10:12.600 And he'd be less likely to end up dead.
00:10:15.360 It's not compatible.
00:10:16.460 I think we would have a much safer society and we would have many fewer needless deaths
00:10:22.080 if there were more Jose Alba's in the world stabbing people when they are attacked.
00:10:29.380 They're good on Jose Alba.
00:10:30.780 The guy not only should not be arrested, not only should not be charged with a crime,
00:10:34.680 the guy should be given a medal for public service because not only did he defend himself,
00:10:39.580 which is his right, but he is sending a message to other criminals.
00:10:43.260 Don't do it.
00:10:44.300 Don't do it, guys.
00:10:45.140 It's not worth it.
00:10:45.860 It's not worth it for the bag of potato chips or the candy bar or the bottle of soda or
00:10:51.300 the 75 cents.
00:10:52.880 Your life, even your life, even you degenerate criminals who are wreaking havoc on society,
00:10:59.260 even your lives, your mostly miserable lives are worth more than 75 cents.
00:11:05.320 But unfortunately, that's not what the authorities are doing.
00:11:09.480 The authorities are encouraging more stupid games.
00:11:12.040 You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
00:11:13.640 I'm going to play you two clips back to back from Lori Lightfoot, the eccentric mayor of
00:11:19.100 Chicago.
00:11:20.160 Lori Lightfoot is very upset over the intense, harsh, toxic political rhetoric.
00:11:27.000 So I'm going to tell you what she said a few days ago and then what she said a couple weeks
00:11:30.800 before that.
00:11:32.780 The toxicity in our public discourse is a thing that I think we should all be concerned about,
00:11:39.840 right?
00:11:40.060 And it's ironic, obviously, that we're having this conversation and what happened on Independence
00:11:45.520 Day.
00:11:46.380 You know, we're not like a lot of other countries where independence, their version of Independence
00:11:51.980 Day is marked with, you know, troops and tanks.
00:11:56.520 And no, what we do in the United States is we come together as a community.
00:12:01.380 If you read Clarence Thomas' concurrence, he said, thank you, Clarence Thomas.
00:12:09.020 So I guess we had to bleep it out, but she says, F Clarence Thomas, F him.
00:12:15.580 And that's, and we need less toxic rhetoric.
00:12:18.020 We need to cool down the rhetoric.
00:12:19.660 You effing Clarence Thomas, Nazi, racist, evil, you.
00:12:25.140 Well, hey, guess what?
00:12:26.720 If you want less toxic discourse, you're, you're probably going to need to engage in
00:12:32.640 less toxic discourse.
00:12:33.540 And you don't want to do that.
00:12:34.400 And you're obviously being disingenuous when you complain about the discourse.
00:12:36.780 So that's fine.
00:12:37.700 But just know when you do it, when you play those stupid games, you will get, you will
00:12:42.940 in fact get stupid prizes.
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00:14:08.380 Hey, speaking of life and death, really, really shocking, sad story out of Japan.
00:14:14.560 This is just breaking now.
00:14:16.100 The former Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has been assassinated.
00:14:20.180 A young man, he was only 67 years old, I believe.
00:14:23.080 He was assassinated by some unknown guy.
00:14:26.640 They've arrested the guy who killed him.
00:14:29.240 But the guy was about 41 years old, I think.
00:14:32.760 Shinzo Abe was campaigning for other candidates.
00:14:35.620 It's obvious he wasn't campaigning himself because he's out of office.
00:14:38.500 And what makes it especially weird, well, two things make it especially weird.
00:14:42.060 One, Japan has extremely strict gun control.
00:14:45.960 And Abe was assassinated with a gun.
00:14:48.660 Seems like some sort of makeshift type of gun.
00:14:50.760 But obviously, it was effective.
00:14:52.120 Two shots fired, one of which pierced to Abe's heart.
00:14:55.120 And he died.
00:14:56.700 Almost immediately.
00:14:57.720 He died.
00:14:58.320 He was shot last night.
00:15:00.400 And then by this morning, the news had broken.
00:15:02.820 That was very strange.
00:15:04.360 And then I think the other reason why this is sending shockwaves throughout the world
00:15:08.340 is because Abe was a former prime minister.
00:15:14.800 It would actually be less weird if Abe were assassinated while he was in office.
00:15:19.480 That would seem to make more sense.
00:15:21.340 He's got power.
00:15:22.460 He might be doing things that other people disapprove of.
00:15:24.920 And so some extremely angry, aggressive activist or some lunatic would go out and assassinate him.
00:15:35.360 Why would you assassinate a former prime minister?
00:15:38.760 It's really scary because it makes you feel that nobody is safe.
00:15:42.720 I obviously don't follow Japanese politics all that closely.
00:15:46.120 But Abe appears to have been extremely popular, a very good prime minister of Japan, longest serving prime minister of Japan.
00:15:54.200 He was a nationalist.
00:15:56.560 He looked out for Japan's interests.
00:15:58.200 That's probably why he and Donald Trump got along so well.
00:16:01.880 And they did appear to strike up a friendship.
00:16:03.740 They went golfing together.
00:16:05.060 One of my absolute favorite moments from the Trump administration was when he went to visit Shinzo Abe.
00:16:10.440 And then there was a major worldwide international scandal because Trump fed the koi fish.
00:16:17.020 And the media said he poured too much food into the koi fish pond, even though I don't think he did.
00:16:21.420 Anyway, it's very sad because he was a good ally for Trump during the administration, a good responsible leader, and treated the United States rather well.
00:16:33.500 And that's very sad to see.
00:16:34.780 I have very little more to say on it other than what it means beyond Japan and what it means beyond Abe and what it means for all of us at a time where we're facing such political uncertainty and we feel like the institutions are losing our trust and the world order is spiraling out of control.
00:16:52.060 It is especially scary that a prime minister would be assassinated.
00:16:55.280 And it's even more especially scary that a former prime minister would be assassinated because it makes one feel really no one is safe, really opens up a huge number of people who could be in danger.
00:17:09.500 Speaking of strange events happening with shadowy cabals and assassins and secret societies and all sorts of nefarious conspiracies, do you know about the Georgia Guidestones?
00:17:22.900 Have you ever heard about the Georgia Guidestones?
00:17:24.620 I had heard about them, but until just a couple of days ago, I had kind of forgotten about them because the Georgia Guidestones are this bizarre Stonehenge-like structure that was erected in the late 1970s in Georgia, and no one really knows who was behind it.
00:17:41.120 And then a couple of days ago, they got blown up, and we don't know who blew them up.
00:17:44.360 So this was erected in 1979, and the reason people are interested in the Georgia Guidestones is because it seems kind of occult, seems kind of conspiratorial, new world order-y.
00:17:59.480 There are a lot of conspiracies surrounding them, or conspiracy theories, quote unquote.
00:18:03.320 It's probably conspiracies too.
00:18:04.300 In June 1979, a guy using the pseudonym Robert C. Christian approached the Elberton Granite Finishing Company anonymously or pseudonymously, and he said that a small group of loyal Americans wanted to erect this structure.
00:18:20.940 And so the granite company said, okay, and they gave him a ridiculously high number for the cost because they thought it was bizarre and they didn't want to do it.
00:18:28.540 And then the secret society said, okay, that's fine.
00:18:32.500 That's fine.
00:18:33.040 Don't worry.
00:18:33.400 That cost is fine.
00:18:34.280 And then they went out and bought a bunch of land, and they erected this bizarre Stonehenge-like structure on there, and they had Ten Commandments on there.
00:18:42.720 But they're not the normal Ten Commandments.
00:18:44.440 They're not the Christian Ten Commandments.
00:18:46.560 They were kind of anti-commandments.
00:18:50.180 Here's what they said.
00:18:51.120 First one, maintain humanity under 500 million in perpetual balance with nature.
00:18:58.540 500 million.
00:18:59.240 How many people do we have right now?
00:19:01.240 Eight billion or something?
00:19:02.780 Maybe more?
00:19:04.340 Maintain 500 million.
00:19:05.620 That means you'd have to eradicate the vast majority of the world population.
00:19:09.180 Guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity.
00:19:12.640 So that's just eugenics.
00:19:13.580 That just means kill off the weak, kill off the inferior races, and make sure you improve the fitness of the race.
00:19:23.080 Unite humanity with a living new language.
00:19:25.280 That's some weird Babylon kind of stuff.
00:19:26.720 Rule passion, faith, tradition, and all things with tempered reason.
00:19:31.780 It sounds like kind of weird enlightenment secret society kind of talk.
00:19:36.120 We need to subdue faith and passion and tradition with our reason, with our age of enlightenment reason.
00:19:43.460 Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
00:19:46.960 Okay, I support that.
00:19:47.800 That sounds good.
00:19:48.880 Let all nations rule internally, resolving external disputes in a world court.
00:19:53.160 Okay, I'm halfway on board with that.
00:19:55.960 I like ruling internally, and I like some diplomacy, but what is this world court?
00:19:59.560 Are we talking about a kind of one world government here?
00:20:02.020 Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
00:20:04.040 Yep, sounds good to me.
00:20:05.180 Balance personal rights with social duties.
00:20:07.160 Okay.
00:20:07.840 Prize truth, beauty, love.
00:20:09.460 Seeking harmony with the infinite.
00:20:11.140 So I, yeah, okay, that's fine.
00:20:14.360 Yeah, the first part's definitely fine.
00:20:15.700 This language though of the infinite.
00:20:17.680 It sounds, it sounds like the weird esoteric language of those secret societies that cropped up during the enlightenment and that have wreaked a lot of havoc on civilization.
00:20:27.760 And then be not a cancer on the earth.
00:20:30.280 Leave room for nature.
00:20:32.200 Leave room for nature.
00:20:36.080 And be not a cancer on the earth.
00:20:37.940 Well, that sounds like what the left believes.
00:20:39.600 The left believes that human beings are a kind of a cancer.
00:20:44.000 That's why they're so worried about overpopulation like these people are.
00:20:47.160 They're so worried about our horrible effect killing the environment.
00:20:50.980 We humans, we're the problem.
00:20:52.460 We're the disease.
00:20:54.300 We must return to nature and allow nature to heal by killing ourselves and not having any kids.
00:20:59.080 It's weird.
00:20:59.940 It's creepy.
00:21:00.440 It has the language of secret societies and new age cults and all sorts of stuff that I don't like.
00:21:06.080 Like, the Georgia Guidestones were bad.
00:21:09.640 I am glad that they are gone.
00:21:12.080 I don't know how they were destroyed.
00:21:13.860 Was it someone affiliated with the stones that destroyed them?
00:21:16.480 I guess probably not.
00:21:17.080 Was it an act of vandalism?
00:21:18.100 There have been acts of vandalism there before.
00:21:20.940 I don't, I don't support breaking the law, but I'm glad they're gone.
00:21:23.680 They're bad monuments.
00:21:25.180 They speak to a false religion and I'm glad that they're no longer there.
00:21:30.140 Okay.
00:21:30.500 And that's, it's simple as that.
00:21:33.080 It's bad stuff.
00:21:34.300 I was reminded, I was reading last night, Hilaire Belloc.
00:21:36.640 And he, he was such a clear thinker.
00:21:38.520 He was a historian.
00:21:40.020 He was a Catholic writer.
00:21:41.560 He wrote a lot about religion.
00:21:43.300 He just reminds, and this is something that we've got to remind ourselves pretty regularly.
00:21:48.880 The fundamental distinction among all the people of the world is not race.
00:21:54.600 It's really not.
00:21:55.220 Yes, races have differences and different cultures and different geographies, but that's not the
00:22:01.040 fundamental distinction.
00:22:02.280 The fundamental distinction among human beings is not even sex.
00:22:06.740 Men and women are totally different.
00:22:08.100 They're complementary, but that's not really what separates us.
00:22:11.560 It's religion.
00:22:12.580 It's not nationality.
00:22:13.740 It's not politics.
00:22:14.880 It's not, it's, it's religion.
00:22:16.660 Ultimately, because religion, even if you don't think you're religious, even if you don't go
00:22:21.380 to church, even if you don't think that you're practicing rituals, you are, everything comes
00:22:26.140 out of religion because any way you act in the world, you've got to have some sense of
00:22:31.720 what is right and wrong and what is true and who you are and what your place is in the world
00:22:35.920 and what we're all here for and what you're even doing and what you even want.
00:22:39.240 All of that ultimately has to come from religion.
00:22:42.320 Politics is not going to suffice.
00:22:44.220 Science is not going to suffice.
00:22:45.960 Those are all category errors, okay?
00:22:47.840 They're not going to answer the biggest questions.
00:22:49.820 Only religion can do that.
00:22:51.140 And it's, it's very bad when we, when our religious monuments, every, every society
00:22:58.720 has religious monuments.
00:22:59.940 There is, has never ever been in all of human history, a total separation between religion
00:23:04.580 and the state.
00:23:05.440 Can't happen.
00:23:07.040 It's very bad when our public religious symbols are false and wrong and lead to destruction.
00:23:14.560 We have religious symbols all over our society.
00:23:17.300 We just don't totally recognize them as such.
00:23:19.360 The rainbow flag is a religious symbol that makes totally moral claim, well, immoral claims,
00:23:24.560 but it may, but it's making claims about morality.
00:23:26.780 The Georgia Guidestones are, are religious symbols, more explicitly religious symbols.
00:23:33.700 There have been secret societies in American history that have wreaked a great, great deal of,
00:23:38.880 wrought a great deal of havoc.
00:23:40.280 There was even, at one point in America, there was an anti-Mason party.
00:23:43.080 That's how prominent the secret societies were, okay?
00:23:45.880 And people will call you a conspiracy theorist when you point out, hey, these Georgia Guidestones
00:23:50.700 are kind of weird, well, it's, it's not some random theory.
00:23:54.720 It's not a tinfoil hat thing.
00:23:55.720 Somebody put them up.
00:23:57.400 These, these sorts of movements and esoteric societies, they do exist.
00:24:01.900 They do believe things.
00:24:02.960 They are pushing an agenda.
00:24:04.600 Some are less hidden than others.
00:24:06.040 Some are right out there in public.
00:24:08.280 That's not a conspiracy theory.
00:24:09.560 That's a conspiracy.
00:24:10.560 And when, when conspiracies are, are allowed to flourish and they're against the national
00:24:16.600 interest, it's good when they get stopped, okay?
00:24:19.080 That's, I'm not going to complain that the creepy, weird, cult Guidestones were taken down.
00:24:25.120 Speaking of population control, there's a story that nobody is reporting on, but this
00:24:30.120 is shocking stuff.
00:24:31.420 So big pro-life win.
00:24:33.360 We've, the Supreme Court just overruled Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood B. Casey.
00:24:36.940 Great, great new pro-life laws because the issue has been returned to the state.
00:24:41.380 But your taxpayer dollars are still going to fund abortion.
00:24:44.880 You, everyone in this country, every American listening to this show right now is funding
00:24:49.660 abortion because Joe Biden is taking your taxpayer dollars and using it to transport illegal aliens
00:24:58.080 and specifically illegal alien minors out of Texas to other states to kill their children,
00:25:05.660 to go get abortions.
00:25:07.540 This news just broke.
00:25:09.640 Many federal shelters for unaccompanied children that have been caught at the U.S.-Mexico border
00:25:16.360 are now flying or driving people using federal funds, these young people, to other states
00:25:26.640 for abortions.
00:25:27.300 And it didn't just start.
00:25:28.000 They've been doing it for nine months ever since pro-life laws started to go into effect.
00:25:31.900 According to the ACLU, which supports the infanticide, they say, time is really of the essence when
00:25:38.140 someone needs access to abortion.
00:25:40.640 That's Brigitte Amiri, who's the deputy director of the ACLU's Reproductive Freedom Project.
00:25:45.680 Listen to that ghoulish sentence.
00:25:49.280 Time is really of the essence when someone needs access to an abortion.
00:25:54.820 Why?
00:25:56.080 Why is time of the essence?
00:25:57.620 Is it because abortion will be outlawed after a certain number of weeks, as it is everywhere
00:26:05.420 in the world?
00:26:06.040 Really, except for parts of the United States and China and Canada and North Korea?
00:26:10.500 Is that why?
00:26:11.120 Well, but if you're already transporting the illegal aliens out of Texas to other states,
00:26:15.780 you can just take them to a state like Oregon, where there are no limits on abortion at all.
00:26:18.740 You can take them to a state like New York, where there are no limits on abortion at all.
00:26:22.680 So why is time of the essence?
00:26:25.000 Because beyond the laws, time is of the essence, because at a certain point, people realize it's
00:26:28.620 a baby.
00:26:30.200 And the young people are not going to want to kill their babies, generally speaking, at 25
00:26:35.900 weeks, 26.
00:26:37.080 It's just so obviously a baby at that point.
00:26:38.800 You feel the kicks constantly.
00:26:40.060 You can see the baby so clearly on the ultrasound.
00:26:43.600 That's why time is, we got to kill the babies before people realize they're babies.
00:26:46.980 That's what they're saying.
00:26:49.120 This administration is so fanatically pro-abortion, so fanatically pro-abortion that they are spending
00:26:57.320 money to take young people, minors, who by the way, frequently are brought to get abortions
00:27:03.640 to cover up sexual assault, right?
00:27:06.740 That when an adult rapes a minor, the way to cover up the crime is to go have the minor
00:27:14.080 get an abortion.
00:27:15.080 So that's heinous enough as it is.
00:27:17.120 Now you're paying for it.
00:27:18.760 And now Joe Biden is pushing this kind of thing.
00:27:21.440 This is not about a choice.
00:27:23.280 This is not about a reasonable disagreement on when a human life takes on value.
00:27:28.520 This has become a sacrament for the left.
00:27:31.820 Look no further than Elizabeth Warren.
00:27:33.900 Elizabeth Warren, I think when you look into her eyes, you can see most clearly the demonic
00:27:39.340 nature of abortion.
00:27:41.060 When the Supreme Court opinion was leaked in Dobbs, she gave that press conference where
00:27:47.000 she was walking from the Capitol.
00:27:48.160 The woman had the fire of a thousand sons in her eyes.
00:27:51.000 She goes, this is terrible, and we're going to fight this.
00:27:54.620 I have a plan to kill more babies.
00:27:56.820 It was super spooky, man.
00:27:58.260 It was something like you'd read in the New Testament of people possessed or obsessed by
00:28:02.620 demons.
00:28:04.000 So Elizabeth Warren, there's another clip that just came out of her from some time ago,
00:28:07.680 though it's getting a lot more play right now, where Elizabeth Warren says it's not enough
00:28:11.240 that we have legal abortion.
00:28:12.700 It's not enough that we encourage people to kill their babies.
00:28:15.240 It's not enough that we fund Planned Parenthood.
00:28:17.320 The abortion mill.
00:28:18.540 No, we've got to go further.
00:28:20.000 We've got to shut down crisis pregnancy centers that don't kill babies.
00:28:26.700 Here in Massachusetts, these so-called crisis pregnancy centers outnumber genuine abortion
00:28:36.420 clinics by three to one.
00:28:39.460 She says women walk into the centers believing they'll get abortions.
00:28:42.900 Instead, they try to talk women out of it.
00:28:45.300 She calls it a bait and switch.
00:28:46.720 They are giving it over to people who wish them harm, and that has to stop.
00:28:52.780 We need to put a stop to that in Massachusetts right now.
00:28:56.540 Who wish them harm?
00:28:58.440 The crisis pregnancy centers, which offer usually free services, very, very low cost services
00:29:05.920 to pregnant women in distress, and who promise to take care of the women and their babies.
00:29:13.980 They're doing women harm.
00:29:16.300 How?
00:29:16.940 Because Elizabeth Warren says if the center won't kill the woman's child, that constitutes harm.
00:29:23.240 Killing a baby is charitable.
00:29:26.860 Not killing the baby and taking care of the mother and the baby, that's harm.
00:29:29.460 We've got, it's not enough just to even support abortion.
00:29:34.280 You've got to oppose pro-life.
00:29:37.160 It just goes to show you that all this language of pro-choice has always been a ridiculous lie.
00:29:44.720 And I really would encourage, we talked at the top of the show about not squishing.
00:29:47.460 I really encourage conservatives never to use that phrase, pro-choice.
00:29:52.140 It's so ridiculous.
00:29:54.440 It's so euphemistic.
00:29:56.940 I'm willing to use the left's language in certain instances, but I'm not willing to lie for the left.
00:30:04.960 Pro-choice is a ridiculous, it doesn't tell you anything about it.
00:30:09.680 If an alien from outer space heard the phrase pro-choice,
00:30:12.780 they would have no idea what the person was talking about.
00:30:17.400 It's intentionally deceptive.
00:30:19.800 So I wouldn't use that language.
00:30:21.160 And by the way, even if you did use that language, they're not talking about a choice.
00:30:24.340 They want to shut down the crisis pregnancy centers.
00:30:26.420 They want to stop you from having the choice to have your baby.
00:30:28.560 They want to lower the population of the world.
00:30:32.800 They want to support the Georgia Guidestones.
00:30:35.060 They want to limit the horrible effects of human beings,
00:30:39.520 the cancer on the earth, on the environment, and on society.
00:30:42.240 They want to practice eugenics.
00:30:44.200 They've been open about this.
00:30:45.500 This isn't some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
00:30:47.660 Planned Parenthood was founded as a eugenics organization.
00:30:50.560 Okay?
00:30:50.960 They tell it to you.
00:30:52.140 They tell it right to your face.
00:30:53.880 All right?
00:30:54.920 And we should take it seriously.
00:30:56.420 We should take it seriously, one, because it's a serious problem,
00:30:59.940 but two, because our vice president insists that we need to take things seriously
00:31:03.820 because of as seriously we need to take things.
00:31:05.660 We've got to take this stuff seriously, as seriously as you are,
00:31:10.360 because you have been forced to have to take it seriously.
00:31:12.480 The whole nation should understand and have a level of empathy
00:31:16.620 to understand that this can happen anywhere,
00:31:20.560 in any peace-loving community,
00:31:23.480 and we should stand together and speak out about why it's got to stop.
00:31:29.280 And what this seriously reminds us is Joe Biden's greatest advantage going right now,
00:31:36.580 which is everything is going very poorly.
00:31:39.220 You're seeing the consequences of playing stupid games in society,
00:31:41.980 which is winning stupid prizes on the economy,
00:31:44.380 on crime, on immigration, on foreign affairs, on everything.
00:31:48.620 Bad ideas, bad policies have bad consequences.
00:31:51.440 And yet, this guy who can barely speak,
00:31:54.880 who clearly has lost a step or a hundred steps,
00:31:58.640 this guy is probably still going to be able to keep the Democrat nomination in 2024,
00:32:04.340 or at least he has a very good shot at it,
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00:32:09.720 It's a really smart, stupid move,
00:32:11.080 which is he has surrounded himself with people
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00:33:34.240 Welcome back to the show.
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00:33:54.880 First question up.
00:33:57.840 Hey, Michael.
00:33:58.960 Steven here.
00:33:59.780 My best friend has a doctorate in English
00:34:01.780 and spent much of his education
00:34:03.380 studying feminism and gender theory.
00:34:05.660 So he maintains that gender is a purely social construct
00:34:08.940 that is in no way informed by biological sex.
00:34:11.900 I attempted to argue the idea
00:34:14.040 that a majority of men or women
00:34:15.580 would inform the idea of the genders at a base level.
00:34:18.740 And he denied that,
00:34:20.020 stating that there is no individual aspect
00:34:22.120 of either masculinity or femininity
00:34:24.360 that holds up under concentrated scrutiny.
00:34:27.260 For example,
00:34:28.080 women are more likely to desire
00:34:29.620 to be the primary child care provider
00:34:31.440 is not something he'd agree with,
00:34:33.560 because he'd say that there's no objective way
00:34:35.460 to prove that this is true
00:34:36.640 from a biological standpoint
00:34:38.060 as opposed to cultural influence.
00:34:39.880 Just because a majority conforms
00:34:42.020 to those characteristics
00:34:42.920 or believes they exist
00:34:44.140 doesn't mean that they are rooted in reality.
00:34:46.900 He points to supposedly gender-based concepts
00:34:49.440 throughout history
00:34:50.180 that have been proven false,
00:34:51.780 like the belief that women
00:34:52.900 are less intelligent than men,
00:34:54.840 as evidence that my argumentation methodology
00:34:57.240 is flawed,
00:34:58.240 and that because it's based in the concept
00:35:00.120 of the majority,
00:35:01.300 it doesn't hold up to his counter-arguments.
00:35:03.360 I know that he would welcome
00:35:05.400 a compelling and intellectually sound rebuttal,
00:35:08.400 even though I don't think
00:35:09.240 he would change his mind.
00:35:10.720 So what argument would you make
00:35:12.220 to counter his
00:35:13.100 and to reinforce what is to me
00:35:14.860 and likely you the obvious truth?
00:35:17.400 Love your show and the work you do.
00:35:19.460 Thank you very much.
00:35:20.340 The problem with debunking his argument
00:35:22.540 is that he isn't making an argument.
00:35:24.780 He's just saying a thing.
00:35:27.320 He's just saying,
00:35:28.080 sex and gender are different.
00:35:30.300 And you say,
00:35:31.120 okay, well, how's that?
00:35:32.480 He said, well, because they just are.
00:35:34.840 Well, okay, what's the difference?
00:35:36.360 Now, for the last 50 years or so
00:35:38.780 of the sex-gender distinction on the left,
00:35:41.820 they say that gender is cultural and social.
00:35:45.120 Sex is biological.
00:35:46.400 Because of the transgender movement,
00:35:47.880 they've started to switch that a little bit now.
00:35:49.580 So they'll say things like,
00:35:50.980 one can have a biologically female penis.
00:35:53.780 So they're saying that gender actually is biological
00:35:56.500 or transgenderism, for instance,
00:35:58.120 is when a person's brain
00:36:00.080 has the gender that is female
00:36:02.460 but their physical biology is male.
00:36:04.840 But of course, your brain is physical.
00:36:06.080 So that stuff doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:36:08.480 I guess I would begin to his point
00:36:10.180 on the idea that women are less intelligent.
00:36:12.200 I've never thought women are less intelligent than men.
00:36:14.260 I think women can be extremely clever.
00:36:16.500 Though, ironically, he makes this point
00:36:18.140 that there's no study
00:36:19.080 or rather that even this has been debunked.
00:36:21.760 But Larry Summers got thrown out of Harvard.
00:36:23.760 The president of Harvard University got thrown out
00:36:25.920 because he conducted a study
00:36:27.500 and suggested that the IQ bell curve for women
00:36:32.000 is smaller than the IQ bell curve for men,
00:36:34.160 which doesn't mean that women
00:36:35.160 are just stupider than men or something.
00:36:36.840 It actually means women are
00:36:37.600 at the very, very highest extremes of intelligence
00:36:41.040 are slightly less intelligent
00:36:43.180 but also slightly smarter than men
00:36:45.740 at the two extremes.
00:36:47.020 So again, I don't particularly care
00:36:48.720 about Larry Summers or his study.
00:36:50.160 And I think all studies are basically fake.
00:36:51.660 But even if he is solely relying on studies,
00:36:54.860 they don't seem to prove his point.
00:36:56.100 Regardless, I just think it's so silly
00:36:58.740 the place he's beginning from
00:36:59.980 because he's saying, look,
00:37:02.420 we've got the entire body of human knowledge
00:37:06.240 for all of human history,
00:37:07.400 which says that men and women are different
00:37:09.120 and act differently
00:37:09.980 and men are from Mars and women are from Venus.
00:37:11.500 And every single culture
00:37:12.560 in all of human history has known this.
00:37:14.340 Not just the men,
00:37:15.080 but the women have known this everywhere.
00:37:17.340 But I want to study.
00:37:20.200 But what about my studies?
00:37:21.660 Or something like that.
00:37:22.400 And it's just so silly.
00:37:23.680 You begin with this question,
00:37:24.920 are men and women different?
00:37:27.780 Yes, we can see that men and women are different.
00:37:32.660 Does the physical world say,
00:37:35.320 does our physical reality say something
00:37:38.040 about what we should do with our physical reality?
00:37:40.960 To say, does our body say something
00:37:43.060 about what we should do with our body?
00:37:45.560 This is clearest when it comes to sex, right?
00:37:48.440 Men have a role in sex
00:37:49.740 and women have a role in sex.
00:37:51.140 And the consequence of that
00:37:52.360 is that the women become pregnant
00:37:54.160 and grow a child in their wombs.
00:37:56.640 Men can't do that.
00:37:57.580 Women can do that.
00:37:59.460 Does that means men and women are different?
00:38:01.600 Does the fact of becoming pregnant
00:38:03.900 say something about how women ought to behave
00:38:06.360 and how they do behave when they become pregnant
00:38:08.280 that is different from men?
00:38:10.200 Yes, that is obviously true.
00:38:12.520 Do men naturally take on different roles
00:38:15.700 because of this?
00:38:16.780 Because we've got this undeniable fact
00:38:18.660 of different sexual slash gender roles
00:38:21.280 when it comes to pregnancy and sex.
00:38:23.440 So does this occur in other aspects of life?
00:38:27.980 Yes, this is obviously true.
00:38:29.440 You look at the oldest hunter-gatherer tribes,
00:38:31.900 men and women have different roles.
00:38:33.220 You look at tribes that still live
00:38:34.580 in a more primitive way around the world today.
00:38:37.180 There are different roles for men and women.
00:38:39.500 When Walsh went to Africa for his documentary,
00:38:42.320 he asked, what is a woman to the African tribe?
00:38:44.160 And both the men and the women gave the same answer.
00:38:45.880 It's a very interesting answer.
00:38:46.720 They said, the men are the people
00:38:49.440 who do the role of the men.
00:38:51.480 And the women are the people
00:38:52.300 who do the role of the women.
00:38:53.340 That it begins not with some shallow kind of discourse
00:38:57.040 on even biology or something,
00:38:59.200 but with duty, with role, with a place in society.
00:39:03.740 You could point out that in politics,
00:39:05.780 we're not just individuals,
00:39:07.040 free-floating atoms on our own,
00:39:08.820 but man is essentially a political animal,
00:39:11.200 a social being that has identity in his role in society.
00:39:15.760 And men and women have different roles.
00:39:17.760 That happens naturally.
00:39:19.560 And even when social reformers
00:39:21.220 really want to mess with that,
00:39:22.900 people still go out and do it.
00:39:24.260 This is why when Betty Friedan
00:39:26.120 was debating Simone de Beauvoir,
00:39:27.700 two feminists in the late 20th century,
00:39:30.340 they were debating what feminism should look like.
00:39:32.980 Betty Friedan said women should have a choice.
00:39:34.860 They can either take on the traditional role of women
00:39:36.740 and raise children
00:39:37.440 and take care of the family and home economics,
00:39:38.980 or they should be allowed to go out and work
00:39:41.300 and not take care of their family.
00:39:43.740 And Simone de Beauvoir said no.
00:39:46.580 No, they should not be given that choice.
00:39:48.880 Betty Friedan said, what do you mean?
00:39:49.720 Why shouldn't they be given that choice?
00:39:51.000 And Simone de Beauvoir said something very revealing.
00:39:53.120 She said, if women are given the choice
00:39:54.880 to raise their kids, they will.
00:39:57.340 And we can't have that.
00:39:58.660 That's not conducive to liberation.
00:40:00.600 Women will take on their natural roles
00:40:02.640 99 times out of 100.
00:40:04.520 And we can't have that.
00:40:05.680 That's not good for feminism.
00:40:07.160 So those are just a smattering of points I would make
00:40:09.460 to debunk the argument that he is not making.
00:40:13.580 Okay, next question.
00:40:15.380 Hey, Michael.
00:40:16.460 Love the show.
00:40:17.540 I've been listening to it for a couple years now,
00:40:19.840 and I share it with friends and family.
00:40:23.060 Just wanted to ask,
00:40:24.420 I'm an artist,
00:40:25.460 and having worked for Disney,
00:40:27.880 you know,
00:40:28.560 very briefly in my career,
00:40:30.760 I'm just so disappointed
00:40:34.280 with everything that they're doing now.
00:40:36.600 And I'm just asking a question
00:40:38.080 in regards to content creation for social.
00:40:41.560 I sometimes wonder,
00:40:42.640 should I create art that exposes
00:40:44.900 just the demonic reality
00:40:49.140 of what they are
00:40:50.560 and what they've been doing lately?
00:40:52.540 Or do I just create art
00:40:55.380 that's good,
00:40:56.980 that's wholesome,
00:40:58.300 and that shows the light of Jesus?
00:41:00.960 Not so much on the nose,
00:41:02.640 but, you know,
00:41:03.080 a little bit more creative.
00:41:04.000 I just often wonder,
00:41:06.100 what type of content should I be creating?
00:41:08.600 As an artist,
00:41:09.320 sometimes I wonder,
00:41:10.780 do people want to view art
00:41:12.240 to try to get away from everything that's going on?
00:41:15.660 Or should art be some sort of a voice?
00:41:18.780 And I often find myself struggling
00:41:20.840 between those two approaches.
00:41:23.440 I don't really see the distinction,
00:41:25.620 because if I think of art
00:41:27.040 like Hieronymus Bosch's
00:41:29.000 Garden of Earthly Delights,
00:41:31.060 it's both very scary
00:41:33.700 and, you know,
00:41:34.960 demonic and really awful,
00:41:36.960 but it's also extremely beautiful.
00:41:38.600 Or I think of Caravaggio,
00:41:39.720 probably my favorite artist.
00:41:40.800 I have a Caravaggio print.
00:41:43.160 It's not an original hanging in my office.
00:41:45.700 But Caravaggio has all sorts
00:41:48.060 of extremely intense,
00:41:49.860 very scary even paintings,
00:41:53.520 but they're extremely beautiful.
00:41:55.580 Even the paintings of,
00:41:57.200 you know,
00:41:58.960 John the Baptist's head
00:42:00.060 or Gustave Duret's
00:42:02.900 depictions of Dante's Inferno.
00:42:05.160 Those are scary
00:42:06.480 and even depictions of hell,
00:42:08.180 but they in turn
00:42:09.920 do depict something
00:42:11.520 that is ultimately beautiful
00:42:12.520 and they do convey
00:42:13.260 the light of Christ,
00:42:14.500 if only by contrast,
00:42:16.200 if only by showing you
00:42:17.180 how horrible hell is
00:42:19.200 and how we ought to avoid hell.
00:42:21.000 So I don't think it's,
00:42:25.400 I don't think beauty
00:42:26.620 and sublimity
00:42:28.000 necessarily require you
00:42:30.140 to paint, you know,
00:42:30.880 Thomas Kinkade,
00:42:31.760 a fire in every window
00:42:32.760 and smoke coming out
00:42:33.840 of every chimney.
00:42:34.860 I don't think you need
00:42:35.760 to produce kitsch
00:42:37.460 or schmaltzy kind of art.
00:42:40.060 But it should be to an end.
00:42:43.020 I would encourage you
00:42:44.760 not to paint
00:42:45.480 ugly, hideous, absurd things.
00:42:49.220 You shouldn't go down
00:42:50.000 the Dada path, for instance.
00:42:51.720 You shouldn't do that
00:42:52.760 because that can be
00:42:55.320 not edifying,
00:42:56.520 but degenerating.
00:42:57.800 And so I certainly
00:42:59.440 wouldn't recommend that.
00:43:00.300 And then to your point
00:43:00.800 on political art,
00:43:03.740 your art shouldn't be shallow.
00:43:06.400 All art is political
00:43:07.460 in the sense that
00:43:08.060 it describes aspects
00:43:09.600 of the world that we live in
00:43:11.160 and gives us some perspective
00:43:12.980 from our own role
00:43:13.720 in the world,
00:43:14.120 which is social.
00:43:15.040 So it's all political
00:43:16.060 in that sense,
00:43:17.020 but it doesn't need
00:43:17.740 to be agitprop.
00:43:18.800 You know, it doesn't need
00:43:19.500 to be really shallow,
00:43:20.960 ideological kind of art.
00:43:22.600 Do this, didactic,
00:43:23.780 pedantic nonsense.
00:43:24.780 You know, I wouldn't
00:43:25.260 recommend that either.
00:43:26.500 I would make it beautiful.
00:43:27.560 And if you ground it
00:43:28.240 in the truth,
00:43:29.020 that beauty can come
00:43:29.840 from scenes that are
00:43:30.780 of the glories of heaven,
00:43:32.480 you know, from paradise,
00:43:33.440 or they can be scenes
00:43:34.400 from hell.
00:43:35.200 And both will be edifying
00:43:37.660 as works of art.
00:43:38.540 All right, next one.
00:43:40.120 Mr. Knowles,
00:43:40.920 thank you for taking
00:43:41.720 my question,
00:43:42.540 and thank you Pure Talk
00:43:43.480 for making it possible.
00:43:45.200 In the aftermath
00:43:45.860 of the overturning of Roe,
00:43:47.820 secular women everywhere
00:43:49.020 have threatened chastity
00:43:50.500 and an end to hookup culture.
00:43:52.700 If you can even imagine
00:43:53.700 such a world,
00:43:54.420 you know this would render
00:43:55.260 apps like Tinder,
00:43:57.000 Bumble,
00:43:57.700 and the like obsolete.
00:43:59.580 We are all excited
00:44:00.640 about what the Daily Wire
00:44:01.700 is doing not only
00:44:02.580 to rebut left-wing pop culture,
00:44:04.520 but give the right
00:44:05.440 a pop culture all its own.
00:44:07.660 My question is this.
00:44:09.780 Is it time
00:44:10.440 for the Daily Wire
00:44:11.300 to start a conservative
00:44:12.460 dating app?
00:44:14.020 My name ideas include
00:44:15.420 Swipe Right
00:44:16.180 with a capital R,
00:44:18.000 The Dady Wire,
00:44:19.480 or my favorite,
00:44:20.880 MAGA Matches
00:44:21.820 with an optional paid upgrade
00:44:23.520 to Ultra MAGA Matches.
00:44:26.120 I do expect royalties.
00:44:28.140 What do you think?
00:44:29.280 You deserve royalties.
00:44:30.380 You probably won't get them,
00:44:31.120 but you deserve royalties
00:44:32.200 for that.
00:44:33.140 I love the idea
00:44:34.420 because I want more of you.
00:44:35.840 People write in all the time.
00:44:36.940 You're single.
00:44:37.740 You want to meet people,
00:44:38.760 but you don't want to date
00:44:39.540 some squishy libs,
00:44:40.880 so you don't know what to do.
00:44:42.920 I think it would be great.
00:44:44.540 It would be a wonderful thing
00:44:45.600 if we could set up
00:44:46.840 our wonderful Daily Wire
00:44:48.460 members and listeners.
00:44:50.100 But there is a structural problem,
00:44:51.860 and you alluded to it
00:44:52.900 in the first part
00:44:53.300 of your question,
00:44:53.880 which is dating apps
00:44:55.920 have an incentive
00:44:56.880 to keep people dating.
00:44:59.080 They don't have an incentive
00:45:00.320 to get people married.
00:45:02.560 And the only way
00:45:03.460 they have an incentive
00:45:04.060 to get people married
00:45:04.860 is in as much as people
00:45:06.380 who want to get married
00:45:07.220 will sign up for the app
00:45:08.500 to then ideally get married.
00:45:10.920 So it has a kind of attraction
00:45:12.000 in that way.
00:45:12.720 But if you want
00:45:13.280 consistent customers,
00:45:14.700 then you need people
00:45:15.500 to stay on the apps,
00:45:16.300 which means you've got
00:45:16.800 to discourage marriage
00:45:17.540 and encourage the hookup culture.
00:45:20.020 So it would be
00:45:20.640 a very difficult needle to thread.
00:45:22.220 I'm not saying
00:45:22.580 it would be impossible,
00:45:23.800 but it would be,
00:45:25.460 it would very likely
00:45:27.020 become self-undermining
00:45:28.620 if you had a conservative
00:45:30.540 dating app
00:45:31.380 that was strictly
00:45:32.100 meant for marriage.
00:45:32.800 Unless you could incentivize
00:45:34.600 the company
00:45:35.180 to incentivize people
00:45:37.440 to get married.
00:45:38.460 I don't know,
00:45:38.760 maybe you have to pay
00:45:39.260 a dowry to the company
00:45:40.280 if you get married
00:45:40.880 or something like that.
00:45:41.560 We'll have to look into it.
00:45:42.620 Then we can use part
00:45:43.320 of those dowries
00:45:44.040 to pay you your royalties.
00:45:46.060 Next question.
00:45:47.620 Hey, Michael.
00:45:48.440 Love the show.
00:45:49.480 Anyways,
00:45:50.000 I am a high school student
00:45:52.640 who has always been conservative,
00:45:54.400 but I'm starting to,
00:45:56.220 I'm sort of converting
00:45:57.400 to Christianity
00:45:57.940 at the moment.
00:45:59.840 Anyways,
00:46:00.240 I love math
00:46:03.620 and I've always been
00:46:04.500 much more talented
00:46:05.340 at math
00:46:06.020 than English.
00:46:09.440 Like,
00:46:09.580 I actually struggled
00:46:10.600 with English
00:46:11.220 when I was a kid,
00:46:12.020 but I've been always
00:46:12.840 off the charts in math.
00:46:15.080 I've got a perfect score
00:46:16.140 on the ACT
00:46:17.160 and SAT math sections.
00:46:20.240 And,
00:46:20.580 I've been looking
00:46:22.720 into like careers
00:46:23.620 I could go into.
00:46:25.400 And in terms of
00:46:26.460 applying math
00:46:27.320 and turning my own
00:46:28.800 personal crank,
00:46:30.220 artificial intelligence
00:46:32.500 and machine learning
00:46:33.360 sounds very interesting
00:46:34.600 to me.
00:46:35.860 But also,
00:46:36.700 I do have
00:46:37.200 a few ethical concerns
00:46:38.820 about that.
00:46:39.960 So,
00:46:40.500 I was wondering
00:46:41.340 what you think.
00:46:42.960 Thanks.
00:46:43.480 Love your show.
00:46:44.580 Really good question.
00:46:45.580 The smartest people
00:46:46.580 I know,
00:46:47.520 almost all of the smartest
00:46:48.900 people I know,
00:46:50.080 are working in some way
00:46:52.280 on these sorts of issues.
00:46:53.420 There's a really good
00:46:56.560 friend of mine
00:46:57.000 from college
00:46:57.540 who's a super intelligent,
00:46:59.520 brilliant mathematician,
00:47:00.500 brilliant physicist.
00:47:01.880 He's working on AI
00:47:03.440 and I think it's cool.
00:47:04.460 I just saw him
00:47:05.160 at a reunion
00:47:05.820 and he was showing me
00:47:07.320 all the crazy stuff
00:47:08.100 that they're doing,
00:47:09.240 the art that these machines
00:47:10.600 are making,
00:47:11.220 the poems that the machines
00:47:12.440 are writing.
00:47:12.920 It's super scary.
00:47:14.260 I wouldn't have
00:47:15.260 ethical questions
00:47:16.800 rather
00:47:17.160 about
00:47:18.420 the machines themselves.
00:47:21.320 Some people are concerned
00:47:22.180 about the ethics
00:47:22.840 of what happens
00:47:23.440 if the machine
00:47:23.900 becomes conscious.
00:47:24.680 The machine's not
00:47:25.160 going to become conscious.
00:47:26.160 That's not how
00:47:26.700 consciousness works.
00:47:27.640 So,
00:47:27.800 I wouldn't worry about that.
00:47:28.760 You might be concerned
00:47:29.420 about the ethics
00:47:30.000 of what can be done
00:47:30.880 with these machines
00:47:31.840 but this would be similar
00:47:33.380 to someone who's
00:47:34.100 working on weapons.
00:47:35.220 You might have ethical
00:47:36.000 worries about that
00:47:36.900 but I don't think
00:47:38.280 I would let that
00:47:38.760 stop me from working on it.
00:47:40.120 There is going to be
00:47:41.060 artificial intelligence.
00:47:42.000 There already is
00:47:42.380 artificial intelligence
00:47:43.240 and so if you,
00:47:44.500 with your head
00:47:45.440 screwed on straight
00:47:46.200 and your heart
00:47:47.060 in the right place
00:47:47.760 and a decent sense
00:47:49.040 of virtue,
00:47:50.180 if you are working on it,
00:47:51.420 you might be able
00:47:52.060 to help influence
00:47:53.080 and make sure
00:47:54.280 that there are
00:47:54.840 those ethical guardrails there.
00:47:56.240 I think that would be
00:47:57.240 pretty important
00:47:57.880 so go for it.
00:47:58.480 Plus,
00:47:58.660 it seems extremely cool.
00:47:59.980 Before we go,
00:48:00.400 I want to get to
00:48:00.780 at least one written
00:48:02.140 mailbag question
00:48:03.100 from Kristen.
00:48:03.940 This Tuesday,
00:48:04.560 you brought up
00:48:04.960 the issue
00:48:05.380 of antidepressants
00:48:06.740 and the rise
00:48:07.260 of use after COVID.
00:48:08.540 I was against
00:48:09.240 the use of antidepressants
00:48:10.180 until I needed something
00:48:11.080 more than just
00:48:11.840 talking to someone.
00:48:13.260 They have improved
00:48:14.080 my life greatly
00:48:15.240 and I think
00:48:16.100 I would argue
00:48:16.500 against your wording
00:48:17.420 of being addicted
00:48:18.080 to antidepressants.
00:48:19.880 They save lives
00:48:20.700 and I think the issue
00:48:21.460 lies in the society
00:48:22.700 my generation
00:48:23.900 has to deal with
00:48:24.720 as we are more
00:48:25.660 isolated than ever.
00:48:27.740 There you go.
00:48:28.760 What would a better
00:48:29.520 solution be
00:48:30.280 than to just stick
00:48:31.680 people on antidepressants
00:48:32.720 because I would argue
00:48:33.520 that that may be
00:48:34.540 the best option
00:48:35.400 as of now.
00:48:36.580 Thank you for giving
00:48:37.100 young conservatives
00:48:37.840 a voice.
00:48:38.460 I appreciate all
00:48:38.940 that you do.
00:48:39.400 Really great question.
00:48:40.580 A lot of people
00:48:40.980 wrote in similar things
00:48:41.920 to me
00:48:42.180 so I'm glad
00:48:43.420 we could get to this.
00:48:44.360 I think you proved
00:48:45.040 my point though
00:48:45.580 in your question
00:48:46.140 because you're saying
00:48:47.680 look,
00:48:48.100 I didn't want
00:48:48.800 to take antidepressants
00:48:49.720 but then I went
00:48:50.200 on antidepressants
00:48:51.020 and I felt better.
00:48:51.860 Yeah,
00:48:52.060 well that's what
00:48:52.580 antidepressants do
00:48:53.360 is they chemically
00:48:54.180 trick you
00:48:55.640 into thinking
00:48:56.220 that you're happier
00:48:56.840 than you would be
00:48:58.460 otherwise
00:48:58.860 if you were not
00:48:59.500 under the influence
00:49:01.040 of this drug.
00:49:02.040 But then you said
00:49:02.860 I think the reason
00:49:04.180 that my generation
00:49:05.200 is on all these
00:49:05.820 antidepressants
00:49:06.560 is because our society
00:49:08.300 is so isolating.
00:49:10.020 I think you're totally
00:49:10.540 right about that.
00:49:12.160 Therefore,
00:49:13.060 what would be
00:49:13.680 the better alternative
00:49:14.340 be?
00:49:16.540 If antidepressant drugs
00:49:18.060 have any use at all,
00:49:19.140 it will be to treat
00:49:20.260 personal psychological issues.
00:49:24.200 I think the idea
00:49:24.940 of a chemical imbalance
00:49:26.000 in the brain
00:49:26.520 has been pretty discredited
00:49:27.880 at this point
00:49:28.480 but whatever that phrase
00:49:30.100 is trying to describe
00:49:31.580 some physical issue here
00:49:33.520 that one of these drugs
00:49:34.840 could possibly address,
00:49:36.800 that would at least
00:49:37.600 make sense.
00:49:39.440 But if the problem
00:49:40.520 is not personal,
00:49:41.460 if the problem
00:49:41.860 is not just psychological,
00:49:43.400 if the problem
00:49:43.680 is not just some imbalance
00:49:44.940 in your brain,
00:49:45.500 if the problem is,
00:49:46.220 as you say,
00:49:46.760 social,
00:49:47.460 then drugs are not
00:49:48.240 the answer.
00:49:48.940 Drugs are not the way
00:49:49.780 to deal with social problems.
00:49:51.740 Politics is the answer
00:49:52.620 to deal with social problems
00:49:53.660 at the highest level
00:49:54.540 and society and culture
00:49:57.860 and going out
00:49:58.480 and meeting people
00:49:59.100 and showing up
00:49:59.760 to church on Sunday
00:50:01.280 and showing up
00:50:02.040 to the bar
00:50:02.600 or restaurants
00:50:04.240 or a social club,
00:50:05.760 that's the way
00:50:06.480 to treat it.
00:50:07.480 And in the long run,
00:50:08.220 that's going to be
00:50:08.680 a lot better.
00:50:10.200 It's true that
00:50:11.040 for some people
00:50:11.540 who are in the throes
00:50:12.260 of depression,
00:50:13.620 it can be good
00:50:15.060 to give them
00:50:16.400 a little bit of relief.
00:50:18.080 And maybe a drug
00:50:19.220 can do that,
00:50:19.820 maybe it can't,
00:50:20.440 but that can't be
00:50:21.200 the long-term solution.
00:50:23.340 And often,
00:50:23.940 there are a lot
00:50:24.320 of negative side effects
00:50:25.180 from that.
00:50:26.340 It's just going
00:50:27.020 to be tricking you.
00:50:27.920 It's just going
00:50:28.300 to be a lie.
00:50:29.100 It's going to be
00:50:29.560 numbing you
00:50:30.140 like drugs do.
00:50:31.640 So if you want
00:50:32.380 a long-term solution
00:50:33.520 to put yourself
00:50:35.660 back in reality,
00:50:36.840 then you've got
00:50:37.400 to go see people
00:50:38.160 and you've got
00:50:38.520 to go interact
00:50:39.160 in the real society.
00:50:40.760 In fact,
00:50:41.260 in many ways,
00:50:42.320 the antidepressant culture
00:50:43.440 is not only
00:50:44.540 a reaction to
00:50:45.400 but perpetuating
00:50:47.480 this culture
00:50:48.300 of isolation
00:50:49.000 in the same way
00:50:50.360 that virtual reality
00:50:51.220 does because it
00:50:52.160 just brings you
00:50:52.740 more and more
00:50:53.300 into yourself
00:50:53.880 in the same way
00:50:54.320 that transgenderism
00:50:55.060 does by bringing
00:50:55.900 you more and more
00:50:56.620 into your own delusions
00:50:57.540 and taking you
00:50:58.200 out of objective
00:50:59.460 reality and encouraging
00:51:01.320 you to just stay
00:51:02.700 exactly where you are
00:51:03.880 in a condition
00:51:05.160 that for many people
00:51:05.860 is miserable.
00:51:06.720 So the solution
00:51:08.260 to that,
00:51:09.340 and I'm not
00:51:09.740 disparaging anybody
00:51:10.500 who has taken
00:51:12.080 these drugs in the past
00:51:13.100 or even is taking
00:51:13.760 them now
00:51:14.100 but that can't be
00:51:16.040 in pretty much
00:51:17.640 every circumstance
00:51:18.220 that can't be
00:51:18.760 your long-term solution.
00:51:20.580 Your long-term solution
00:51:21.540 to a social problem
00:51:22.920 is to re-engage
00:51:24.080 in society
00:51:24.660 and that can be scary
00:51:25.760 and you might have
00:51:26.380 anxiety about it
00:51:27.340 but that's just part
00:51:28.580 of the human condition.
00:51:29.440 We're living in
00:51:29.820 such a bizarre time.
00:51:31.060 Does anybody else
00:51:31.700 think it's strange
00:51:32.460 that we're living
00:51:33.180 in a time
00:51:33.640 where we have
00:51:34.760 redefined
00:51:35.580 totally normal
00:51:37.000 aspects of the
00:51:37.820 human condition?
00:51:39.200 Shame,
00:51:40.120 self-doubt,
00:51:41.200 social anxiety,
00:51:42.220 the quirks
00:51:43.680 that we all have,
00:51:44.260 I'm so OCD,
00:51:45.320 that sort of thing.
00:51:45.820 We've redefined
00:51:46.380 all those
00:51:46.660 completely normal
00:51:47.560 aspects of human life
00:51:49.140 as mental illness
00:51:50.900 and then we've
00:51:52.200 redefined actual
00:51:53.280 mental illnesses
00:51:53.940 like gender identity
00:51:54.820 disorder
00:51:55.300 as totally normal
00:51:57.020 aspects of human life.
00:51:58.020 It's just
00:51:58.460 completely backwards
00:51:59.700 and then
00:52:01.080 when things go awry
00:52:02.060 what do we do?
00:52:02.600 We encourage people
00:52:03.280 to isolate themselves
00:52:04.340 on the internet,
00:52:05.580 on media,
00:52:06.300 doom scrolling,
00:52:07.280 popping pills.
00:52:07.980 That's not a
00:52:10.040 long-term solution.
00:52:11.720 Go engage in society
00:52:12.700 and don't squish.
00:52:13.900 Go into society,
00:52:14.940 don't squish.
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