Ep. 1052 - Tom Cruise Was Right
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Summary
Tom Cruise's 2005 interview on the Today Show was a national laughingstock. And now, a new meta-analysis has concluded that the chemical imbalance theory is completely bogus. But it leaves one nagging question: How did a guy whose job is to look good on camera know more about psychiatry than the entire medical establishment and mainstream media 17 years ago?
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I want to take you on a little trip down memory lane, all the way back to 2005,
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when an eccentric movie star gave an infamous interview on the Today Show.
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Here's the problem. You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do. All it does is mask the
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problem, Matt. And if you understand the history of it, it masks the problem. That's what it does.
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That's all it does. You're not getting to the reason why. There is no such thing as a chemical
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imbalance. I'm saying that drugs aren't the answer. These drugs are very dangerous. They're
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mind-altering, antipsychotic drugs. And there are ways of doing it without that so that we don't
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end up in a brave new world. Yes, there are abuses. And yes, maybe they've gone too far in certain
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areas. Maybe there are too many kids on Ritalin. Maybe electric shock is... Too many kids on Ritalin, Matt.
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I'm just saying. But aren't there examples where it works? Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, you're glib.
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You don't even know what Ritalin is. If you start talking about chemical imbalance,
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you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt.
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Okay? That's what I've done. And you go and you say, where's the medical test?
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For that interview, Tom Cruise was turned into a national laughingstock. He nearly lost his career,
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and he was called crazy. Crazy, not like everyone in Hollywood is crazy, which they are,
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but especially crazy. Crazy because he contradicted the medical establishment,
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which had been making money hand over fist, slinging depression pills to treat an alleged
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chemical imbalance in the brain. On the one side of the issue, you had a kooky, weirdo movie star.
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On the other side, you had the entire public health authority. Guess who was right?
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A new meta-analysis that has just come out looking at studies involving tens of thousands of people
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has concluded that the chemical imbalance theory is completely bogus. Most depression pills are what
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is called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs, which are said to work by correcting
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abnormally low serotonin levels. This scientific review, which was published in the journal
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Molecular Psychiatry, finds, quote, no clear evidence that low serotonin levels are responsible
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for depression. In the words of the study's lead author, a psychiatry professor at University
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College London and consultant psychiatrist at Northeast London NHS Foundation Trust, quote,
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many people take antidepressants because they believe and have been led to believe their depression
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has a biochemical cause. But this new research suggests this belief is not grounded in evidence.
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After a vast amount of research conducted over several decades, there is no convincing evidence
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that depression is caused by serotonin abnormalities, particularly by lower levels or reduced activity
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of serotonin. Now, this seems like a pretty important finding for the 85 to 90% of the public that,
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according to surveys, believes in the chemical imbalance theory. This seems like a really big finding
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for the millions of Americans, one in eight, who take these depression pills to correct a chemical imbalance
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that apparently does not exist. For the one in 29 American teenagers and younger who have been
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prescribed these drugs under false pretenses. And it's good that after decades of pharmaceutical
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companies peddling these drugs, often through incessant TV commercials touting the theory and
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minimizing the considerable side effects, it's good that now it's come out that there was never any
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scientific evidence for the theory. That's good. Better late than never. But it leaves one nagging
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question. How did Tom Cruise know this back in 2005? How did a guy whose job it is to look good on
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camera know more about psychiatry than the entire medical establishment and mainstream media 17 years
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before this analysis came out? Forget Tom Cruise for a second. Forget the depression drugs for a second.
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How is it? How is it that a bunch of weirdo bloggers and fringy tweeters and Alex Jones,
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a frequently shirtless radio host who yells into a microphone, how is it that all those people
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have a much better record on COVID and the vaccines than, say, Dr. Fauci, Rochelle Walensky,
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the World Health Organization, and the entire public health establishment? How is it that I,
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okay, and not, I don't, you know, I hate to say I told you so, how is it that I, a guy with no higher
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education than a bachelor's in history and Italian poetry, how is it that I, and most of you, most of
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whom do not have medical degrees, how is it that every single time we contradicted the public health
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establishment and their propagandists in the press and big tech on COVID over the past few years,
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on the Wuhan lab, on mortality rates, on the danger to young people, on the efficacy of the vaccines
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against infection, on the efficacy of the vaccines against transmission, on the relation between
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vaccines and menstruation, on the risks of the mRNA technology, the list goes on and on,
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on every single part of it. How is it that we were always right and the authorities were always wrong?
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Ignorance on their part? Malice? Greed? Indifference, perhaps? Whatever it is, it turns out that the
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people our establishment has maligned as crazy for decades were right all along. And the only people
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who seem crazy today are the ones who still think those authorities have even one ounce of credibility.
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I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from CoolPapaJMagic, who I have to
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saying here. People are not taught anymore that demons are real. Satan too, and even God for that
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matter. We are in complete disorder. I see what you're saying, which is they're not even taught that
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God is real. But the way it sounds is, and even God is real, even in addition to those things. When
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of course, God is the most real, God is the source and summit of all being, being himself. But you're
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right. You're right. Those things are real. As Antonin Scalia said, many more intelligent people
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than you and I have believed in the devil. Those things are real. That spiritual world, those spiritual
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slash K-N-O-W-L-E-S Podium. Let's grow. Speaking of sickness, Joe Biden has COVID. The president of the
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United States has COVID. So announced the White House doctor. White House doctor Kevin O'Connor
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said in a memo that the president is, quote, currently experiencing mild symptoms,
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mostly rhinorrhea, which is not a word that anyone should use. There's no reason to use it. That means
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runny nose. Did you know that? That's a gross word. No one should use that. He's experiencing
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rhinorrhea and fatigue with an occasional dry cough, which started yesterday evening. So the good news is,
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seriously, I'm not being facetious or anything here. It's good. I'm glad. Joe Biden is a fellow human
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being. We hope he makes a full recovery. I'm glad that he's a parent. Apparently it's experiencing
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mild symptoms. Can't help but notice though, that it's a little bit ironic that Joe Biden got
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the virus because, you know, I won't even explain it. I will take you on a little journey. Here is a
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play in three acts. You're okay. You're not going to, you're not going to get COVID if you have
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There he is. He's getting a shot. Okay. Stay in there.
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Hey folks, guess you heard this morning I tested positive for COVID, but I've been double vaccinated,
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double boosted. Symptoms are mild. And, uh, and I really appreciate your inquiries and your concerns.
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He got COVID. He got COVID. He said, if you get the vaccine, you can't get COVID.
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And then he got the vaccine and then he got a bunch of boosters. And then, then he got COVID.
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Shouldn't he have to answer for that? Shouldn't he, he spread fake news. He's, he spread medical
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misinformation. People will lose their careers for that these days. They will be deplatformed for that.
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But don't the, don't the libs broadly, Biden in particular, but he can't answer anything.
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Don't the libs broadly have to answer for that, but they're not giving any answers at all. Here's
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another question people are asking, where did Biden catch COVID? You remember during the Trump years
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when, when Trump got COVID, there was one time at CPAC, the conservative political action conference,
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COVID spread at CPAC. Coincidentally, I happened to be in the green room where COVID spread. And because
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there were a number of high, very high profile administration people there, I, I ended up
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getting put on a bunch of lists where they said, don't, don't go anywhere near Michael because
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Kellyanne Conway and Ted Cruz was there. And there were a number of other key administration people.
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And they said, these awful people, they were in the room, stay away from them. This is a super
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spreader. Conservatives are so irresponsible. Well, okay. Where did Biden catch it? What super
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spreader event was he at? The white house won't answer.
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Where was he infected? I don't think we know. I certainly don't know if you, if you have any
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thoughts on it. Look, I don't think that that matters, right? I think what matters is we prepared
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for this moment. I think what matters is what Dr. Jha just laid out. If we look at where we were,
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we're a year and a half ago. This is a president when he walked in, one of his first priorities was
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to make sure we had a comprehensive plan to get people vaccinated. And so now today, look, look to today,
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more and more people are getting closer to having a more normal life. Vaccines are available. And as
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Dr. Jha said, if you have not gotten vaccinated, please do. If you have not, if you're, if you have
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not gotten boosted, please do. These are, these are treatments that are going to keep you safe. And I
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think that's what matters here is making sure that we continue to do the work. And the good thing is
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that, uh, the president again has been, uh, uh, vaccinated and double boosted.
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That's the really important thing. Cause could you imagine if he hadn't been vaccinated and boosted
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by golly, he might've gotten COVID. They, he said the thing, the white house said the thing that they
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always say, whenever the libs who said that if you get the vaccine, you won't get COVID. And then
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they get COVID and they said, well, thank goodness I'm vaccinated and boosted by golly. Could you imagine
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how bad it would be if I, if I hadn't been vaccinated and boosted? No, I can't imagine.
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I have no reason to believe that it would be worse actually, because you people, the very same people
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who told me with such certainty, you will not get the virus. If you take the vaccine, you will not
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transmit the virus. If you get the vaccine, you are the very same people who are telling me, yeah,
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well anyway, in this kind of unfalsifiable way, it would definitely be worse. So get, get the vaccine
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has just posted, I assume this was a TikTok. Was this libs of TikTok? Of course, libs of TikTok,
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one of the greatest journalistic outlets around today. There's a second grade teacher
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who has some sort of queer identity. And she just posted a really amazing story. Her entire
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second grade class just came out to her as transgender. Okay. So it took a couple of days
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for me to make this TikTok, um, without crying because that's what I do. Um, please ignore
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the dog bone crunching behind me. Anyhow, um, one of my students, uh, felt safe enough to share
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his pronouns with me. And when he did so, once the class knew that I knew, they all switched
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pronouns. They're second graders. Like I'm torn between being really, really happy to be a safe
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space and just absolutely furious that an entire group of second graders has to keep this secret
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from not safe people. Why are kids feeling unsafe? And furthermore, why does everyone talk about how,
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how are the kids going to understand? Kids f***ing understand it. It's easy for them. It's the adults
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who have all of the frigging issues and hangups and bulls***. Kids are fine.
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So this woman said one true thing in that statement. She, when she said it's the adults
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who have the hangups and the issues. Yes. One adult in particular in this situation has a lot of hangups
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and issues and is very confused about her sex and the relationship that she's supposed to have
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to students, to little kids who are not her kids and the relationship that those kids are supposed to
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have to their parents who she derides as unsafe people. Does this woman seriously believe that
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her entire class of second graders, what is a second graders? Seven years old? If you're five years old
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in kindergarten, you're seven years old. An entire class of seven-year-olds. All of them were born in the
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wrong body. All of them, a hundred percent of seven-year-olds who look like boys, they're actually
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secretly girls. And ones who look like girls are actually secretly boys. And that's, do you think
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that's the explanation? Or do you think they just have a weirdo teacher who is confusing them?
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Which do you think it is? Obviously, I mean, none of you, if you're listening to this show,
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you definitely have some common sense. You know what the answer is. I don't know what that woman
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believes. It's hard for me to believe that she could be so stupid as to think that an entire class
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of seven-year-olds just happens to all have this very, very rare psychological condition.
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This sexual delusion where you think you're the opposite sex. She must know, she must realize
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that what she's doing is pushing a radical sexual agenda. That really is a cult. It is a weird
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gnostic religious movement that makes very outlandish claims about human nature and who we
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are and the relationship that the soul has to the body. And like all cults, tells kids to cut off
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their parents. Tells people to cut out their family. Your family is awful. Your family, they're trying to
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harm you. They're not as enlightened as we are. Just talk to us. Talk to us about your sexuality,
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kids. Don't. And you know, that's the other thing about cults is they always have a weird sexual
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component. 99 times out of 100, that cult leader is getting frisky with the ladies in the cult. I
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don't know. It's so strange how all these prophets, all these modern day prophets and religious leaders
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and cult leaders, how they always seem to have, how they're always getting messages from beyond this
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realm to sleep with all the ladies. Isn't that kind of weird? And you're getting a similar effect here
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with these groomers. It's just a cult. And the question is, do you, in the name of equality and
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tolerance and open-mindedness and liberality, need to tolerate a publicly funded institution
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to which you send your children to send them into a cult? A weird, creepy sex cult that teaches them
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to hate their parents and to disbelieve reality and to hate their own bodies. Do you think you have
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to do that? I don't think you do. I think the teacher should be fired. I think these ideologies
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should be banned from schools. I think the books that peddle these ideologies should be banned from
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schools. They should be burned. Okay. I'm going to go a little further. Let's go all the way.
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All right. Book burning has a long history in Western civilization. Plato supported book burning.
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The apostles supported book burning. Certain Catholic theologians supported book burning.
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The leading Protestant theologians supported book burning. I don't love Martin Luther. He's not my
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main man. He supported book burning too. We've had lots of this. In early America, they supported
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book burning. Now, I'm not suggesting that we take this so far. I actually, I'm a very open-minded
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person. I really like tolerance. I tolerate all sorts of crazy ideas. I talk to radicals all the time.
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But there is a difference between being a kind of open-minded, interesting, tolerant person who is
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curious about other ideas and supporting with your taxpayer dollars a weirdo cult that indoctrinates
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your kids in the sacred texts of this insane leftist religious ideology. Okay. There's a big
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difference here. And we don't need to tolerate that. And we don't need to tolerate these weirdos
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turning their kids, turning the students in their class against their parents. You don't have,
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you can just fire them. We have the political right to do that. Do we have the political will?
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I'm not so sure, but we do have the political right to do that. Speaking of weird sex stuff in public
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health, monkeypox is spreading like, not like wildfire. It's spreading actually very, very slowly,
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but it is spreading in America. And it's spreading specifically in, on the coasts,
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in very liberal cities among homosexual men. That's where it's spreading. And the LA Times
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has figured out why monkeypox is spreading. The LA Times has a headline,
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why are we botching the monkeypox response? Blame homophobia.
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Yeah. This guy, Senator Scott Wiener, who is a state senator in San Francisco. He says,
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we are on our own as always. His name is Wiener. Just going to leave that there. We are on our own
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as always. We can't count on anyone else. Rampant homophobia is why monkeypox is spreading. That is
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not true. Monkeypox is spreading because certain gay men are having orgies and they just shouldn't,
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just don't do that. If they didn't do that, they wouldn't catch monkeypox.
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What they're suggesting here is that we need to mobilize our entire public health apparatus
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to take on the monkeypox issue. Why don't we have enough vaccines? Because there is no monkeypox
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vaccine. Because the vaccine that people are getting against monkeypox is actually a smallpox vaccine.
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And why don't we have a monkeypox vaccine? Because monkeypox was never a big issue. And it's only
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spreading right now because of a Belgian fetish conference and Spanish bathhouses,
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for gay men. And if they didn't go to the bathhouses and they didn't go to the weird
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fetish orgies, there wouldn't be monkeypox spreading around. It would still be confined
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to Zaire and a few small places in Africa that have been dealing with this problem for about 50
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years. But it hasn't really spread too much. It hasn't become a massive problem. Let's go further.
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Maybe they'll say, well, look, we were able to gin up the entire public health apparatus to create a
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COVID vaccine. You saw how well that turned out. Why can't we do that to create a monkeypox vaccine?
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Why can't we do that to? Well, because COVID spread like wildfire. It infected pretty much everybody.
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It could be pretty tough on certain vulnerable populations. It shut down the world in terms of
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the governments shutting down the economies. And so there was a pretty good political argument for
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that. And you couldn't avoid having COVID by changing your personal behavior. That was one
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of the ironies of COVID is people thought that by wearing a special mask or by even taking a special
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shot, they would avoid getting COVID. And that didn't happen. Pretty much everybody has had COVID
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and lots of people have had COVID multiple. I've had COVID multiple times. I suspect many of you have as
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well. Monkeypox is not the same. You can avoid getting monkeypox. You're not going to get it by
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riding the subway. You're not going to get it by going to work. You're not going to get it by going
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to the store. Don't have gay orgies and you won't get monkeypox. That's it. But we are told in our
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society, you're not allowed to say that. You're not allowed to recommend that people not have gay
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orgies. That's a political right. Gay orgies are a natural right. That's why James Madison wrote the
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constitution was to enshrine the right to Belgian fetish conferences. So if you, you have the right
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to keep and bear leather ball gags or something. No, you don't. None of that is a right. We absolutely
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as a political community can discourage that sort of thing. And we should discourage that sort of
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thing. And it would do a hell of a lot more for the public health than most of the COVID response
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and, and the shenanigans that big pharma has been up to for the past several decades. No question.
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Speaking of weird sex stuff, speaking of sexual rights, the house of representatives,
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the Democrats are taking on the real big issues. The Democrats have just put up the right to
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contraception act, the right, the right to condoms bill. Right now we've got record high inflation.
00:24:26.340
We've got the first major war in Europe in 70 years. We've got record high illegal immigration,
00:24:32.960
millions of foreign nationals pouring across our border. We still have the public health issues of
00:24:37.980
the, the hangover from COVID. We've got all these problems. And they say, you know, the big issue
00:24:42.600
condoms. Do you, does anyone have trouble getting condoms in America or the pill or any of that? No,
00:24:50.780
it's everywhere. It's every, it's ubiquitous. But the right to contraception act would quote,
00:24:56.140
protect a person's ability to access contraceptives and to engage in contraception
00:24:59.760
and to protect a healthcare provider's ability to provide contraceptives,
00:25:03.160
contraception and information related to contraception. They're doing this because
00:25:06.140
abortion was a big loser for the Dems and they couldn't argue against the Dobbs decision and they
00:25:12.620
couldn't really argue against the overruling of Roe v. Wade and it doesn't pull very well.
00:25:16.280
So they're trying to make that decision about other issues that are not at risk. They're trying to make
00:25:20.900
that decision about the redefinition of marriage in Obergefell. They're trying to make that issue about
00:25:26.120
the constitutional right so discovered in, in Lawrence v. Texas to homosexual sodomy. They're
00:25:32.020
trying to make it about Griswold v. Connecticut and Eisenstadt v. Baird, which discovered somewhere
00:25:37.200
in the constitution in 1965 and 1972, the right, the elusive right to put on a condom first for
00:25:44.360
married couples and then for non-married couples too. Don't know where that one was in the text,
00:25:48.600
probably between the emanations and the penumbras written in the invisible ink. And so they're trying
00:25:52.320
to make it about that. But the court in the Dobbs decision said explicitly, we are not revisiting
00:25:58.000
any of those issues. Contraception, homosexual sodomy, even marriage. We're not revisiting
00:26:02.540
any of those. Clarence Thomas in his concurrence said we should revisit those things perhaps.
00:26:07.980
He couldn't get any other justice to sign on. None of these things are at risk whatsoever.
00:26:13.020
They are all ubiquitously available. But the Dems have to tilt at windmills because they can't,
00:26:18.440
they can't run on anything else for the midterms. Intelligent, loyal, wise, dignified Republicans
00:26:28.980
would call this out for what it is. Say this is such a BS, ridiculous distraction. I'm not going
00:26:35.040
to vote for it. And then you've got the squishes. And then you've got the squishes. So there were two
00:26:42.720
Republicans who voted present on the bill. My problem isn't even with them. People should have
00:26:48.320
voted no on the bill. But my problem isn't even with the two Republicans who voted present. My
00:26:52.300
problem is with the eight Republicans who voted yes. Number one on the list, you can guess.
00:26:56.920
Who do you think she is? Liz Cheney of Wyoming. Liz Cheney says, yes, we absolutely need to enshrine
00:27:04.280
the right to condoms and birth control and all that. Anthony Gonzalez, John Katko, Adam Kinzinger,
00:27:10.380
Brian Fitzpatrick, Nancy Mace, Fred Upton, and Maria Salazar. I am really glad that Republicans
00:27:19.080
have wised up since the last stupid, ridiculous Democrat trap vote, the one on enshrining the
00:27:26.740
redefinition of marriage. I'm glad 47 Republicans voted for that. Then I read their names on this show,
00:27:31.700
and I think they're just absolutely very disappointing people. Okay. I'm glad that that number went from 47 to
00:27:38.920
eight since we read those names. But these eight, I mean, these guys are just completely worthless
00:27:46.540
in politics. They should be removed from the Republican Party. If the numbers are anywhere
00:27:52.860
near right for what we're looking at in the midterm elections, the Republicans are going to have a way
00:27:57.660
bigger than eight seat majority. So these guys, we should throw them out of the party. I mean,
00:28:03.000
a lot of them aren't coming back. Liz Cheney is almost certainly going to lose. Adam Kinzinger is
00:28:06.480
certainly not going to come back. So there are a lot of people like that, but it's pathetic.
00:28:11.260
Now, there's the Democrat view, which is that, to get into the actual issue of contraception,
00:28:18.620
is the Democrat view that we have an absolute constitutional right to condoms and birth control.
00:28:24.160
That's just not true. Even if you like condoms and birth control pills and IUDs and all that stuff,
00:28:28.420
it's not in the Constitution, right? If it were in the Constitution, how come it took until
00:28:31.900
1965 to discover it? And how come in 1965, when the Supreme Court discovered this alleged right,
00:28:37.920
how come they said, no, the right only exists for married couples? And it took another seven years
00:28:42.140
for the court to, I don't know, they got out a bigger magnifying glass in the Constitution.
00:28:45.600
They said, oh no, actually, no, we missed it. In this paragraph, it's for unmarried couples too.
00:28:50.680
Yeah, it's right there. It's really deep in the substantive due process. You know,
00:28:55.560
that contradiction in terms, that ridiculous liberal legal theory that has allowed the libs
00:29:01.920
to shred the Constitution. So even if you support it, it's obviously not in the Constitution, right?
00:29:06.740
But a really popular view, even among some conservatives is, look, birth control,
00:29:12.460
it's not in the Constitution, but it's a good thing. Birth control is a good thing. We should
00:29:16.640
support it. It's great. If we don't want to have abortions, we got to have birth control
00:29:20.420
as though you can only have one or the other, as though you at least need to have one of those
00:29:26.000
things. And that's a popular view. But here's my unpopular view in some quarters. Birth control is
00:29:35.740
bad. It's a bad thing, and we should discourage it. Not saying pass a national ban. I'm not saying
00:29:41.660
that that's not going to happen like the Democrats are yelling about. But it's a bad thing. Can we all
00:29:47.020
agree it's a bad thing? No, maybe we can all agree that. Well, what about if we look at the history
00:29:51.680
of birth control? You ever look into just Google, like, what's the history of birth control?
00:29:56.440
Birth control, the modern birth control movement, comes in the 19-teens, and it was popularized by
00:30:01.920
Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. It was a eugenicist movement to allegedly improve
00:30:08.580
the race by stopping undesirable people from producing kids. That's what it was for. It specifically
00:30:15.680
was aimed at cutting the black population and the population of people with a lower IQ,
00:30:20.440
all those stupid idiots. They shouldn't be able to have kids. That was what it was for. That's
00:30:24.780
what it was popularized for. Margaret Sanger, I think, coined the term birth control.
00:30:30.020
Do you think that campaigns that were initiated by Margaret Sanger, by one of the worst human beings
00:30:36.260
ever in the history of our country, do you think that they're all just, like, totally hunky-dory?
00:30:40.100
There's not a chance that maybe there's something a little bit wrong with them?
00:30:42.340
Furthermore, don't you think that some of the side effects of birth control have been
00:30:46.960
sort of bad for our country? Like, for instance, encouraging a culture of promiscuous sex,
00:30:52.440
which has hurt women. It's led to this, what they call the rape culture, the Me Too movement.
00:30:57.660
It's hurt men, too, by causing them to just become unaccountable, irresponsible. It's caused people
00:31:04.400
to delay marriage quite a lot. It's destroyed the birth rate in the United States. We've had a below
00:31:08.880
replacement birth rate for 50 years now, where the country is literally dying. That's probably not
00:31:13.980
good either. It severs the connection between sex and procreation. That can't be a great thing. And
00:31:19.680
it's just kind of anti-human, right? That's what those movements, that's what Planned Parenthood was
00:31:23.520
all about. It's just, we want fewer people. People are a kind of pox and plague on the planet. And so
00:31:29.560
we've got to have fewer people. We don't like all these people. And the Public Health Authority
00:31:35.740
really got behind that. You know, the Public Health Authority that's gotten pretty much
00:31:39.380
everything wrong. Don't you think? I'm just asking you, I'm not saying you've got to totally come out
00:31:45.080
and oppose birth control right now. I'm just saying, if you kind of think through it in a way that's not
00:31:49.820
totally reflexive, and you're not, if you just think, it's probably not a great thing, right?
00:31:55.540
It's probably not a great thing. And I hope that conservatives start to get a little bit,
00:31:59.920
especially these Republicans in the House, I think, I hope they start to get a little bit deeper
00:32:04.020
in their thought about how we're talking about these kinds of things. And I just hope that the
00:32:08.340
Republicans stop being the Democrats from 10 years ago. Okay, I hope that the Republicans are saying
00:32:13.680
birth control is a great thing. I hope, I don't want to have a Republican Party that extols the
00:32:18.400
virtues of Margaret Sanger and the eugenicists. You know, I just don't think that's, I want a choice,
00:32:24.140
not an echo. If I'm going to vote for two parties and my choices are the Democrats or Democrats from 10
00:32:30.740
years ago, I just, I don't even really want to vote. I want a choice. I want a different view
00:32:35.460
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00:32:39.240
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off your first month. All right, before we get to the written mailbag questions, we have
00:34:10.240
my favorite, the voice mailbag questions. Take it away.
00:34:13.820
Hi, Michael. My name is Lizzie, and I love your show. I was just wondering your thoughts on
00:34:19.240
why people, especially obviously the liberals and these woke people, why exactly do they say that
00:34:27.780
Trump is the worst person or the worst president in all of history, and everything bad is because of
00:34:34.820
Trump, and Trump ruined the world, and blah, blah, blah. Obviously, I understand that he's not
00:34:41.100
this politician who's pretending to be the best friend of everyone. I think Joe Biden kind of does
00:34:49.460
that. Obviously, Obama does that. I think that's fake, and that's BS. And honestly, I kind of like how
00:34:54.940
Trump was more real, but is that why they don't like him? Is it because he did the Muslim ban or
00:35:01.900
things like that scandal where locker room talk? I'm just curious. Obviously, you can't question
00:35:08.800
liberals, but why do they think this exactly? They hate Trump in particular because Trump offered an
00:35:16.860
actual alternative to the uniparty consensus, and because he was relatively very effective.
00:35:27.160
The Republicans and the Democrats support different things. They have different policy
00:35:32.660
prescriptions to some degree. They seem to be in opposition, but very often, the parties work together.
00:35:39.640
For instance, a lot of Republicans talked a good game on immigration, but they secretly supported
00:35:45.040
immigration. And the reason for that is because their donors in the Chamber of Commerce want the
00:35:50.000
cheap labor. And another reason for that is they want to keep the entitlement programs solvent. And
00:35:54.900
you can't do that. We were just talking about abortion and contraception in our dying population
00:35:59.760
that we've had for 50 years. You need a massive influx of immigrants if you want to keep those programs
00:36:04.740
afloat, and you want to keep the GDP where it's at or growing. So the Democrats want mass migration
00:36:10.620
because it gives them an electoral advantage, usually gives them an electoral advantage.
00:36:14.980
And the Republicans say they don't want mass migration, but they never do anything to stop
00:36:19.140
mass migration because they benefit, and in particular, their donors benefit. That would be one
00:36:24.740
example. When you get to something like abortion, there are a lot of elected Republicans who might have
00:36:31.100
talked a good game on abortion, but they didn't actually do the things that would be necessary
00:36:35.040
to stop abortion in America. One reason for that is they were able to fundraise very well
00:36:39.700
off of abortion. On issues like American manufacturing, the American worker, Democrats
00:36:44.520
sold out the American worker a long time ago when they adopted a full-throated globalism
00:36:50.220
and outsourced a lot of jobs. Republicans did the very same thing.
00:36:54.680
So on an issue like free trade and outsourcing, the Republicans and the Democrats pretty much
00:37:00.000
agreed with one another, and on and on and on. And then Trump comes in there, and on immigration,
00:37:05.340
he actually offered a different answer, significantly different than what you were
00:37:10.860
hearing from other Republicans. He actually said, I'm going to build the wall. I'm going to deport
00:37:14.440
people. I'm going to make it more difficult for people to come over. And in the early days
00:37:19.080
of the Trump administration, you saw mass migration decrease dramatically on an issue like free trade.
00:37:24.720
He offered a totally different answer on free trade and tariffs than the Uniparty had offered.
00:37:28.780
So that really bugged them. Democrats are fine with Republicans who are court jester conservatives,
00:37:35.140
who put up a little bit of a show of opposition, but they actually, when push comes to shove,
00:37:40.280
they just concede. They lose with dignity. They don't have any dignity, but they say,
00:37:44.260
we're going to lose with dignity, okay? And that's fine by them. The Democrats are okay with it.
00:37:48.780
They'll pretend that they hate them, but really they're okay. The Liz Cheney's,
00:37:52.680
the Adam Kinzinger's, the Mitt Romney's, those kinds of people.
00:37:55.060
When a Republican comes out and is effective and offers an actual alternative, they're especially
00:38:01.360
going to hate that Republican. They're always going to hate the current Republican. Whoever
00:38:04.840
the current Republican is, is going to be Hitler. And the past Republicans, they're going to have
00:38:08.020
more of a strange new respect for. But Trump is a little bit different because Trump, probably just
00:38:13.340
by virtue of his lack of, of elected political experience, he just came in and he said, oh, I thought
00:38:18.560
we actually believed all the things we say we believe. I'm going to actually do them. And the Republican
00:38:23.020
establishment said, no, no, that's just the thing we say on the campaign trail. You can't actually do
00:38:26.860
that stuff. And that, that in particular aroused the ire of Dems. Next question.
00:38:33.400
Hello again, Nostradamus. Last month, I sent a voicemail bag asking for advice to my friend who
00:38:37.700
wants to have a baby with or without a man. I agree with everything that you said and your thoughts
00:38:41.440
were really what I wanted to say, but I couldn't articulate them well. I told her ahead of time that
00:38:45.300
I agree with everything that you said and I recorded your response and sent it to her.
00:38:48.920
She told me she showed the video to her therapist. Her therapist doesn't agree with her being selfish.
00:38:53.380
Because in his view, it's not selfish for her to want a child. I feel like her therapist is too
00:38:57.380
affirming to be a therapist or even talk about logistics and morality in this case. Now she
00:39:01.720
tells me that she has a fear of men and is still going to follow her own schedule with the artificial
00:39:05.500
insemination. She's had less than desirable boyfriends over the years. And I feel like it's
00:39:09.840
skewed her view of men and how she values herself. Despite that, she truly does want to get married
00:39:14.360
one day to a man who will come in and value her. She's expressed this to me and I wish I could be there
00:39:18.920
for her and support her without being the yes girl. I know it's not my place because I'm not
00:39:23.020
her parents. She's working on her relationship with her parents again, but as her friend,
00:39:26.660
I don't know what to do. Thank you for your advice and love the show.
00:39:30.220
Great question. Why would, the thing you should ask her is why she would bring this question to
00:39:36.160
her therapist? Why would her therapist have anything to say about this? Why would she bring
00:39:43.980
a question of morality and bioethics to a psychologist or a psychiatrist? That would
00:39:50.560
be like bringing a question about astrophysics to me. I don't know. I don't know anything about
00:39:55.320
astrophysics. In as much as I have any expertise at all, it's not in astrophysics. So why would you
00:40:01.740
ask me? Likewise, the psychologist's job is to, well, we've been a little harsh on psychologists
00:40:08.140
on the show today, haven't we? Because Tom Cruise was more correct than the entire psychiatric
00:40:11.880
establishment for 17 years. But beyond that, let's say, because I actually do think some psychologists
00:40:19.960
can do important work. Drew Klavan says his life was saved by a psychologist, not by people just
00:40:26.160
selling pills, but by actual talk therapy. So in as much as a psychologist has expertise,
00:40:31.740
it's on the way that your psyche works and the way that you think about yourself and the way that
00:40:38.920
your mind is perceiving the world and your role in the world, right? But the psychologist doesn't
00:40:46.440
know a damn thing, or by virtue of his education, doesn't know a damn thing about morality or sexual
00:40:53.360
ethics or the relationship of a mother to her child in a sort of grand moral scheme. He doesn't
00:41:01.720
know anything about that. She really should be bringing that question to a priest or a pastor.
00:41:06.900
But maybe your friend doesn't have a priest or a pastor. She should be thinking of that question
00:41:11.760
through the view of moral philosophers, through perhaps the view of the Bible, may I suggest.
00:41:18.620
But today, because we live in a therapeutic culture, because we live in a culture that ignores
00:41:24.160
objective reality, that frequently denies the objective moral order, that thinks that priests are just a
00:41:29.500
bunch of witch doctors and charlatans and shamans. We make everything about psychology and psychiatry,
00:41:36.080
because that just makes it all about us, and we think that we're the only people in the world.
00:41:39.920
But if you look at the record, especially of the psychiatric establishment for the, I don't know,
00:41:46.060
for the past hundred years, but especially for the past couple of decades, who are the shamans here?
00:41:51.480
Who are the witch doctors? Who are the quacks? It ain't the priests, okay? It ain't the moral
00:41:57.160
philosophers. I think it's the people peddling the therapeutic society. Next question.
00:42:02.620
Good morning, Smokey Mike. This is Julia, your number one fangirl. Today, I have a little bit
00:42:08.120
more of a serious question. My best friend is planning on working at BP starting August 1st as an engineer.
00:42:17.140
This will be her first job as an engineer. However, she just found out that BP is paying for its
00:42:26.640
employees' abortions. She's a very devout Catholic, very pro-life. She wouldn't even get the Fauci-ouchie
00:42:34.320
because of the abortion connections that it had. So you can just imagine her moral qualms in this
00:42:41.020
situation as well. My question is, do you think that it would be morally okay for her to work at BP
00:42:48.320
while they're paying for their employees' abortions, or should she seek employment elsewhere?
00:42:53.360
Thank you so much. I look forward to your answer.
00:42:57.120
Short answer is, I do think it would be morally okay, but it is a moral question. The reason I
00:43:03.320
think it's okay is because we're discussing not a direct engagement with evil, but an indirect
00:43:10.960
participation with evil. You're working for a company, and the company has a certain insurance
00:43:15.400
policy, and the insurance policy covers travel for people who want to go get abortions, which is
00:43:21.280
very, very bad, but it's pretty indirect. I suspect most companies in the country, if not the vast
00:43:29.380
majority of companies in the country, have similar policies or will institute similar policies in the
00:43:35.680
wake of the Dobbs decision. I think the government, I'm certain the government has that policy.
00:43:41.680
So does that mean that it would be immoral to work a government job? I don't necessarily think so.
00:43:47.460
The military pays for abortions. Does that mean it's immoral to serve in the American military?
00:43:53.060
At a certain point, I think the participation is so indirect, and the presence of this is so ubiquitous
00:44:01.940
that it would be illicit to do so. But should she? I don't know. I mean, that's a question for her.
00:44:12.340
What degree of participation in evil is she willing to tolerate to exist in the world?
00:44:20.980
If my company, if I were working for a company that were going out and promoting abortion,
00:44:27.780
sponsoring Planned Parenthood, donating lots of money to Planned Parenthood, I probably would quit
00:44:33.440
and go to a company that was a little bit more sane. But if we're talking about essentially insurance
00:44:38.280
policies and benefits, I just don't know how you can avoid that in the modern world. And as long as
00:44:43.260
the participation is indirect, perhaps it's tolerable. All right. Last voicemailback question.
00:44:47.860
Hello, Michael. I'm not a long-time listener. I'm not a fan. In fact, I do not support your work
00:44:54.960
in any way. My name is Dr. Anne Lesby, and I am a gender studies professor at ACL University.
00:45:02.440
When I am not educating in the classroom, I dedicate my free time to educating the ignorant on Twitter
00:45:09.060
and exposing dangerous right-wing transphobic fascists such as yourself. Here's my question.
00:45:16.440
Considering the havoc you wreak daily on vulnerable groups such as drag children's performers and sex
00:45:24.260
workers of color, how do you sleep at night? Really great question, Anne Lesby, Dr. Lesby. One of my
00:45:33.060
favorite Twitter accounts. I would encourage anyone who is not already following Dr. Lesby,
00:45:38.960
Dr. Lesby, Anne, to follow her account. I'm really glad to hear your voice. That's great.
00:45:46.440
How do I sleep at night? With the great comfort of a Helix mattress. That is how I sleep at night.
00:45:53.440
Let's get to some written mailbag before we go. Question from Caden. I am a Christian white man
00:45:58.300
who knows I'm a man, and I'm in need of some advice. About to start my freshman year of college,
00:46:02.400
I'll be staying in the dorms because my scholarship will help pay for that. Problem is that I got an
00:46:07.980
email from one of my assigned suitemates telling me that she is transgender. This is a girl who thinks
00:46:14.080
she's a boy in the boys' dorms, meaning I would have to share a bathroom with this person.
00:46:18.740
There's no way that I'm going to room with this person. Do you have any advice on how I should
00:46:22.960
proceed without getting canceled and losing the scholarships I have? I'm an all-access member
00:46:26.620
from Oklahoma. Love the show. Thank you for everything that you are doing on the culture front.
00:46:33.640
Tricky question. I guess I would file for a religious exception. It's silly that you have to
00:46:40.520
make this a religious matter, but transgenderism is a religious matter, and that's not your religion.
00:46:45.180
You have a different religion, I imagine. That's what I would ask for. I would do it politely. I
00:46:51.000
wouldn't make a big stink and start protesting before you even make it to campus. He who pays
00:46:55.200
the piper calls the tune, and the university is paying for this stuff. I agree with you. I think
00:47:00.580
that situation is probably intolerable. I wouldn't do it. It's just wrong. Men and women should not be
00:47:07.900
living in the same suite together, no matter what their professed sexual desires are or their gender
00:47:13.540
identity or whatever. So I would do that. This is one where I think you probably catch more bees with
00:47:19.660
honey than with vinegar, but I would hold your ground on this and maybe start looking at some
00:47:26.780
backup plans too. It's always good to be prepared. Always good to have an off-ramp. Okay, that's our show.
00:47:33.400
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00:47:36.460
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Hey, everybody. This is Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show. You know, some people
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are depressed because the republic is collapsing, the end of days is approaching, and the moon's
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turned to blood. But on The Andrew Klavan Show, that's where the fun just gets started.
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So come on over to The Andrew Klavan Show and laugh your way through the fall of the republic