The Michael Knowles Show - August 04, 2022


Ep. 1060 - Fauci Gets Unmasked


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48 minutes

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173.59341

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8,422

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623

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29

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20


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00:00:37.660 Hey, remember when Fauci shut the whole world down for two years over a virus that he assured us did not escape from a lab in Wuhan?
00:00:46.500 Which he assured us did not conduct gain-of-function research?
00:00:50.740 Which he assured us he had not funded with U.S. taxpayer dollars until we found out that all that stuff actually did happen and Fauci had been lying about everything.
00:01:02.180 You remember that?
00:01:03.440 Well, Senator Rand Paul remembers, which is why yesterday he held the first ever congressional hearing on gain-of-function research,
00:01:11.800 which confirmed what people who had been paying attention have known for more than a year.
00:01:17.260 Dr. Fauci funded the same sort of research at the same Chinese laboratory that was at the center of the outbreak of the virus.
00:01:27.680 What are the implications of Dr. Fauci's continued blatant dishonesty regarding NIH's funding of gain-of-function research in Wuhan?
00:01:36.920 I stand by my statement.
00:01:39.880 The statements made on repeated occasions to the public, to the press, and to policymakers by the NIA director, Dr. Fauci, have been untruthful.
00:01:51.440 I do not understand why those statements are being made because they are demonstrably false.
00:01:58.560 Demonstrably false.
00:02:00.080 Fauci lied.
00:02:01.780 Our political order died.
00:02:03.480 And that little Napoleon in a lab coat thinks that he can get away with it.
00:02:08.240 Whether he does or does not rests entirely with congressional Republicans,
00:02:14.240 which means it is incumbent upon all of you to call your congressman, tell them not to squish,
00:02:21.920 and send a message to the legions of power-mad technocrats that we will not let them upend our entire way of life without consequence.
00:02:32.060 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:02:33.300 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:02:41.780 Welcome back to the show.
00:02:42.860 My favorite comment yesterday is from Mike Honcho, who says,
00:02:46.480 It's amazing at this point that our White House press briefings aren't held in Chinese with English subtitles.
00:02:53.120 You make such a great point.
00:02:54.520 I'm shocked.
00:02:55.240 Forget about subtitles.
00:02:56.200 We don't do subtitles anymore.
00:02:57.640 For some reason, a couple of years ago, the Libs brought back the sign language people.
00:03:02.300 We don't need the sign language people anymore because now we have subtitles, but for whatever reason, they brought them back.
00:03:06.520 So we would have needed Chinese to English hand gesture people before I go further down that line and get myself in a whole lot of politically incorrect trouble.
00:03:17.880 We'll just leave it at that.
00:03:18.800 It's true.
00:03:19.240 The White House is carrying water for the Chinese.
00:03:21.820 There's no question about it.
00:03:23.180 They've been doing it for years now.
00:03:24.640 They've been doing it through the COVID pandemic.
00:03:27.660 They've been doing it on economic matters.
00:03:29.700 They've been doing it now as China aggresses in Taiwan because China makes all our stuff and they own a trillion dollars of our debt.
00:03:38.300 And he who pays the piper calls the tune.
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00:05:17.180 Speaking of science and politics, there's a new report out.
00:05:21.500 This was brought to my attention by Edmund Smirk, one of my favorite Twitter accounts.
00:05:26.200 There's a new report out.
00:05:27.300 I just saw this in Barry Weiss's website.
00:05:30.920 Barry Weiss, the heterodox liberal journalist whose substack is far more credible and respected than the New York Times or the Washington Post.
00:05:40.340 The headline is, court documents reveal Canada's travel ban had no scientific basis.
00:05:47.280 In the days leading up to the mandate, transportation officials were frantically looking for a rationale for it.
00:05:52.580 They came up short.
00:05:54.080 This has been true of a lot of political decisions during COVID.
00:05:58.760 The scientific basis just wasn't really there.
00:06:01.400 You think about the mask orders.
00:06:03.160 You think about the six-feet orders.
00:06:05.440 You think about vaccine mandates.
00:06:07.840 And the rationale for those things just didn't really exist.
00:06:11.800 We were told if you wear the mask, it won't stop the spread at all.
00:06:14.920 And then we were told you have to wear the mask.
00:06:16.880 It'll totally stop the spread.
00:06:18.100 We were told we have to stand six feet apart.
00:06:20.320 Then we were told that just was a number plucked out of thin air.
00:06:23.000 We were told if you get the vaccine, you won't catch COVID or spread it.
00:06:26.180 Then we found out that the vaccines did absolutely nothing to stop you from catching or spreading COVID.
00:06:31.720 So, yes, there was no scientific basis.
00:06:33.940 And conservatives are pouncing on this sort of a headline.
00:06:38.840 There are no scientific basis.
00:06:39.920 This was all just politics.
00:06:42.940 But actually, the conservative response to this sort of a thing is good.
00:06:49.360 This should be politics.
00:06:51.180 It should be a political decision when you shut down a country for whatever reason, for a virus or for a national security threat or just because everyone wants a break on a Tuesday afternoon.
00:07:04.440 That is a political issue, and it should be decided through politics.
00:07:10.160 It's not actually conservative to say, well, we just need the experts and the lab coats and the technocrats to give us all the data and the statistics.
00:07:18.460 And then that will make the decision for us about how we run our lives and keep our businesses open or shut them down or close the churches or go to school or not.
00:07:25.680 That's not conservative at all.
00:07:27.680 That's liberal technocracy.
00:07:29.460 That's taking power away from the people.
00:07:31.320 That's surrendering our political rights.
00:07:34.620 A lot of times during COVID, you would have people point out, and a lot of conservatives would say, these decisions are political.
00:07:41.480 They're not scientific.
00:07:42.360 Right, they are political.
00:07:43.280 The problem with the decisions is not that they're political.
00:07:45.480 Political decisions are supposed to be political.
00:07:47.300 The problem with the decisions is that they were stupid.
00:07:49.780 The problem with the decisions is that they were contrary to the American traditional way of life, and they were contrary to a good and flourishing society.
00:07:56.540 The problem with the decision to keep the pot dispensaries open during COVID but to shut down the churches is not that the decision wasn't scientific.
00:08:04.860 It's that the decision was radical and leftist and anti-Christian and anti-American.
00:08:08.800 And our political order should be oriented to be more pro-Christian and pro-tradition and pro-family and pro-business and pro-traditional way of life and anti-drugs and BLM riots and the like.
00:08:26.020 That's the problem.
00:08:28.900 Politics is good.
00:08:30.640 It's good when people engage in politics, especially in a self-government.
00:08:33.400 But you've got to move past the procedural question, and you've got to get to the substance.
00:08:37.520 What kind of politics are we pushing?
00:08:40.880 You know who gets this?
00:08:42.200 Ron DeSantis.
00:08:43.120 Ron DeSantis totally gets this down in Florida.
00:08:46.880 That's why DeSantis right now is calling for a new kind of law that would allow doctors who trans little kids to be sued.
00:08:56.820 These very young kids getting gender-affirming care.
00:09:00.920 They don't tell you what that is, is they're actually giving very young girls double mastectomies.
00:09:06.040 They want to castrate these young boys.
00:09:08.320 That's wrong.
00:09:09.520 And so we've stood up and said, both from the health and children well-being perspective, you know, you don't disfigure 10, 12, 13-year-old kids based on gender dysphoria.
00:09:21.800 80% of it resolves anyways by the time they get older.
00:09:25.120 So why would you be doing this?
00:09:26.260 I think these doctors need to get sued for what's happening.
00:09:29.540 I'm sorry.
00:09:31.220 They absolutely do.
00:09:32.740 So this is a good line for DeSantis.
00:09:34.420 He's also testing out now this idea.
00:09:36.760 He's saying, hey, what do you think if we made it such that you could sue doctors for transing the kids?
00:09:42.860 And it's getting some applause.
00:09:44.100 They'll see how it plays in the local press.
00:09:45.620 And then I hope Governor DeSantis will actually turn this idea into a law.
00:09:50.220 And what the libs and the technocrats are going to say is, excuse me, Governor DeSantis, where's your medical degree?
00:09:55.880 You don't even have a lab coat or a stethoscope.
00:09:58.100 You're not even a genius medical physician like Dr. Rachel Levine or Dr. Fauci or all these people who are just completely insane and wrong about everything.
00:10:07.020 You're not even one of those medical doctors.
00:10:09.540 You're right.
00:10:10.720 You're right.
00:10:11.640 Should be DeSantis' answer.
00:10:13.060 You're right.
00:10:14.020 I'm not a medical doctor.
00:10:15.500 I don't have a medical degree.
00:10:17.120 And you know what?
00:10:17.800 I don't need one.
00:10:19.520 I'm the governor.
00:10:21.280 And that, when we're talking about political matters and the law and government and how we run our society and how we treat poor little kids who are being victimized by creeps and perverts, being a governor is much more important than being some stupid medical doctor working for the public health establishment, transing the kids and killing the babies and locking us all down for two years.
00:10:41.500 That's the answer.
00:10:42.320 Oh, yeah, okay, you've got your statistics and your studies, and okay, that's fine.
00:10:49.280 By the way, all of the actual credible studies on these sorts of issues are on our side.
00:10:54.620 There is no credible medical study that says that boys are actually secretly girls.
00:10:58.320 That doesn't exist.
00:11:00.140 Okay, so the libs are, though they claim the mantle of science, are obviously very unscientific, but that's actually beside the point.
00:11:07.360 We live in self-government, and the people of Florida have the right to say, don't trans the kids.
00:11:12.580 I don't care what your stupid medical doctors and your establishment says.
00:11:15.860 It doesn't matter to me.
00:11:17.160 We're not going to let you trans the kids.
00:11:18.360 And if you try to do it, we're going to sue you, and ideally, we would throw you in jail or banish you to St. Helena along with Dr. Fauci and all the rest of you, power, mad technocrats.
00:11:28.140 That's the right answer.
00:11:30.080 And you can have the scientific conversation, too.
00:11:33.160 You can have the scientific conversation and say, well, actually, you see, the girl has the two X chromosomes, and the boy has the XY chromosome.
00:11:40.300 And actually, if you put the kids on puberty blockers too early, then that's going to give them osteoporosis.
00:11:44.680 And actually, it's going to give them all, and it's going to sterilize them.
00:11:46.700 That's all true.
00:11:47.820 It's all pertinent.
00:11:49.960 But those are secondary matters.
00:11:51.660 The first, most important aspect here is our liberty, not the individual liberty to mutilate yourself or to mutilate your kid, even.
00:12:01.180 The higher political liberty to say, this is the kind of society we want to live in.
00:12:06.080 We're going to have a normal definition of man and a normal definition of woman, and we're not going to let perverts and radicals castrate our children.
00:12:14.840 And that's that.
00:12:16.040 And you can whine about it, and you can cry about it, and if you don't like it, move to California.
00:12:19.000 But we're not doing it in Florida.
00:12:22.220 And DeSantis obviously gets this.
00:12:24.300 He's testing the waters.
00:12:25.320 I think if he goes all the way on that kind of message, it's going to serve him very, very well in a 2024 presidential election if he indeed runs for president.
00:12:36.220 Now, speaking of kids and science and politics, there is a little bit of bad news.
00:12:41.540 Just came out of Kansas.
00:12:42.660 We had one of the election days.
00:12:44.720 We're going to have a number of election days this year because it's a midterm election year.
00:12:48.440 Different states hold different primaries and elections on different days.
00:12:51.000 We had a little bit of a disappointment in Kansas.
00:12:53.820 There was a pro-life amendment that was put up as a referendum.
00:12:57.560 The people were voting on this amendment, and the pro-life amendment failed.
00:13:01.100 And there's some lessons here for pro-life activists, conservatives more broadly, into why it failed and how we can avoid failure in the future.
00:13:08.960 So the pro-life amendment in Kansas was the first statewide referendum on abortion since the Dobbs decision came down and overruled Roe v. Wade and overruled Planned Parenthood v. Casey and got rid of the national constitutional right to an abortion that doesn't actually exist.
00:13:28.480 The referendum was a little bit weird.
00:13:31.860 The Kansas state constitution includes a right to abortion.
00:13:37.700 The referendum that just failed was to replace the pro-abortion amendment, the right to an abortion in the state constitution, with a right to life.
00:13:49.580 So a constitutional ban on abortion in Kansas.
00:13:54.120 And it failed, unfortunately.
00:13:56.760 It failed by 17 percentage points, so it was not particularly close.
00:14:02.900 And the question is, why did it fail?
00:14:05.460 How did it fail?
00:14:06.140 I don't know.
00:14:06.480 I don't have the text of the amendment in front of me.
00:14:10.080 The title of the amendment was the Value Them Both Amendment.
00:14:16.260 But the issue of abortion is not simply black and white.
00:14:22.820 There can be nuance here.
00:14:24.520 And don't forget, we are called to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.
00:14:28.960 So one way that the pro-life amendment perhaps could have been framed is not even as a pro-life amendment, but as a get this crazy abortion thing out of our state constitution amendment.
00:14:40.460 In fact, the way that you just saw the pro-life issue play out at the Supreme Court.
00:14:45.580 The Supreme Court didn't come down and say, okay, now we have a national right to life.
00:14:48.800 The Supreme Court came down and said, it's not in the constitution, make your own laws.
00:14:52.520 Had this been more of a legislative matter rather than a referendum for an amendment to the constitution, that might have worked out a little bit better for pro-lifers.
00:15:03.960 It's hard to tell with Kansas.
00:15:06.120 We're going to see how this plays.
00:15:07.540 Generally, you think of Kansas as a fairly Republican state, fairly conservative place.
00:15:11.960 We will see how this plays out throughout the rest of the country.
00:15:14.440 But it's an important reminder because I think conservatives are feeling a little like the wind is at our sails right now.
00:15:21.180 And in many ways it is.
00:15:22.520 But it's not going to be a simple victory after victory after victory after victory.
00:15:27.540 We're going to have to be clever.
00:15:28.380 We're going to have to tailor our message to different states.
00:15:30.300 We're going to have to know that what works in Virginia is not going to work necessarily in Texas.
00:15:35.800 It's not going to work necessarily in Florida.
00:15:37.860 It's not going to work necessarily in Kansas.
00:15:40.420 We've got to be clever and take the greatest wins that we can possibly get without letting perfect get in the way of good.
00:15:48.920 Speaking of life and death and little babies in the womb.
00:15:54.780 Chrissy Teigen.
00:15:55.480 I don't really know what Chrissy Teigen does, but she is all over social media and she's frequently in the headlines.
00:16:03.680 Chrissy Teigen is pregnant again through IVF after she had a miscarriage.
00:16:08.720 And I do remember when the story of her miscarriage came out.
00:16:11.740 So Chrissy Teigen suffered a late miscarriage.
00:16:15.960 It's very, very sad.
00:16:17.240 And she mourned the loss of her child as a child.
00:16:20.620 And this was very, very sad.
00:16:22.000 And now, what was it?
00:16:24.120 Some months later at least, she, or some years later, I guess this was actually a couple years ago.
00:16:29.560 She has become pregnant again and now she's very excited.
00:16:31.940 She said, the last few years have been a blur of emotions to say the least, but joy has filled our home and hearts again.
00:16:37.380 One billion shots later in the leg lately, as you see, because she's going through IVF.
00:16:42.180 We have another one on the way.
00:16:43.640 Anyway, I have a great deal of sympathy for Chrissy Teigen.
00:16:48.500 I can't even really imagine how terrible it is to have a miscarriage that late, especially that late.
00:16:55.340 To have any miscarriage, really, but especially that late when you've invested so much emotionally and physically into this baby.
00:17:02.100 And then the baby dies in the womb.
00:17:04.900 It's very, very sad.
00:17:06.100 And I'm happy for her that she will get to have a baby.
00:17:09.780 Hopefully.
00:17:10.300 Hopefully she'll get to have a baby.
00:17:11.260 The question then you got to ask yourself, especially if you're a supporter of abortion.
00:17:18.320 First question, why was Chrissy Teigen so sad when she had a miscarriage?
00:17:23.520 The pro-abortion people tell us that's a clump of cells.
00:17:26.020 That's morally irrelevant.
00:17:27.260 There's no big, it's no big deal.
00:17:28.620 It's, it's a parasite.
00:17:29.620 Get rid of it.
00:17:30.680 Get rid of it and then go have a party for how fun your abortion was.
00:17:34.620 If that's true, then Chrissy Teigen shouldn't be sad.
00:17:37.880 Then we should think Chrissy Teigen's really weird for being sad over her miscarriage.
00:17:41.140 Why are you, why are you so sad?
00:17:42.280 It was just a clump of cells.
00:17:43.200 It was just a random, morally irrelevant.
00:17:46.460 We have to grapple with that.
00:17:49.120 Only one of those two things can be true.
00:17:51.200 Only, it can either be the case that this is a meaningless clump of cells or it's really sad that Chrissy Teigen had the miscarriage.
00:17:58.500 Obviously the latter is true.
00:17:59.820 And Chrissy Teigen is sad because that's a life in the womb.
00:18:02.600 Okay, so we should discard the pro-abortion talking points.
00:18:06.400 And it's not like Chrissy Teigen is some right-wing, rock-ribbed conservative.
00:18:09.580 She's a cultural figure and I assume she's on the left.
00:18:12.760 So the left should take a minute and think about that.
00:18:15.820 Okay?
00:18:15.980 The value of Chrissy Teigen's child does not just come because she likes the child or she wants to acknowledge the child.
00:18:22.780 The value has to come from the child intrinsically.
00:18:25.200 But then there's another harder question, which is, if all that is true, if Chrissy Teigen is right to be sad over her miscarriage, it is because babies are babies from the moment they are made.
00:18:40.880 Not just from the moment of birth, not just at eight months and 29 days, but babies are babies from the very beginning.
00:18:49.840 And if babies are babies from the very beginning, IVF is not morally acceptable.
00:18:56.620 And this is a hard message and I know there are a lot of conservatives who support IVF.
00:19:00.560 And I know there are a lot of, even pro, maybe not a lot, but there are a number of pro-lifers who support IVF.
00:19:06.560 And I know part of the reason for that is people have benefited personally from IVF.
00:19:11.360 And people say, well, my child was conceived through IVF.
00:19:14.280 Are you telling me my child shouldn't exist?
00:19:16.100 No.
00:19:16.980 I'm certainly not saying that.
00:19:18.040 It's wonderful that your child exists.
00:19:20.360 The child has value.
00:19:21.680 The value of a child is not determined by the way that the child was conceived.
00:19:26.040 This is why we don't think we should just kill people who are conceived through rape.
00:19:30.900 And I've got a podcast out right now called The Choosing Life Podcast where we talk to people who survive abortions.
00:19:37.480 And you hear this throughout the pro-life movement.
00:19:40.500 People who are conceived through rape, they'll confront pro-abortion activists.
00:19:44.620 They'll say, do you think that I should be killed?
00:19:47.500 Just because, no, of course not.
00:19:48.660 The way a child is conceived does not determine the value of that child.
00:19:52.000 But, likewise, it doesn't justify rape and it doesn't justify methods that are immoral.
00:19:58.800 Good ends do not justify immoral means.
00:20:01.580 And in the case of IVF, it's really hard to argue that it's morally acceptable.
00:20:05.460 Because IVF, there are lots of moral issues with IVF, but one of them is you create lots of human beings, lots of little embryos, most of which you just put in a freezer forever.
00:20:17.540 Some of which you then implant in the woman.
00:20:21.260 And then, sometimes, if too many of them take, the IVF process will entail abortion to reduce the number of embryos in the womb.
00:20:30.060 There are all sorts of problems.
00:20:31.440 But even at the most, and there are problems actually in addition to that through the method at which these embryos are conceived.
00:20:37.640 But even the ones that are just in the freezer.
00:20:40.660 You're telling me life is sacred from the very beginning and we're all pro-life and a person's a person no matter how small.
00:20:47.420 What about the babies in the freezer?
00:20:50.400 It's not acceptable.
00:20:53.380 I've racked my brain trying to figure out a way in which IVF can be morally justified.
00:20:58.140 I can't think of it.
00:20:58.940 And then there's an even broader political issue, which is that it is not a good idea, I think, to put technology, to establish the domination of technology or any kind of power, a corporate power or a state power, to establish that domination over the origin and destiny of human life.
00:21:18.060 That seems like it could go wrong really fast.
00:21:20.640 It seems like it necessarily goes wrong really fast.
00:21:24.100 And I think most people on most political issues are kind of like Chrissy Teigen.
00:21:31.140 They hold views and they engage in behaviors that are contradictory.
00:21:35.400 Chrissy Teigen so publicly mourns her child who died in the womb because a person's a person no matter how small and then engages in IVF.
00:21:43.860 And she probably has no idea that there is a conflict there, that there's a contradiction there.
00:21:48.480 But it's important for us to talk about it, especially now that we're in a post-Dobbs world.
00:21:52.780 We've gotten rid of Roe v. Wade.
00:21:54.460 We've gotten rid of Planned Parenthood v. Casey.
00:21:57.280 We can acknowledge that babies are actually babies.
00:21:59.940 We've moved past kindergarten, the kindergarten level of talking about pro-life.
00:22:04.120 And now we need to get to the second grade level.
00:22:06.620 And now we need to get to the fourth grade level.
00:22:08.740 And now, because it goes a lot deeper than just don't murder babies in the womb.
00:22:12.240 If you want to get rid of our culture of death, if you want to create a culture of life, it's got to go a lot deeper than that.
00:22:16.980 We've got to talk about what life means, why life has value, where babies come from, what the relation of the sexes are, what sexuality means to the human person.
00:22:28.040 The conversation goes much, much deeper.
00:22:30.140 And it is no coincidence that the moment in our history that gave us abortion, the 1960s, is also the moment in our history that gave us the entire sexual revolution, promiscuous sex, all sorts of weird gender ideologies.
00:22:44.820 It's no coincidence that those are all happening around the same time because they're all deeply related.
00:22:50.460 And we're not really going to solve any of those problems individually until we have a coherent view of what human life is and why it ought to be protected.
00:23:00.780 Now, speaking of judges, speaking of the Dobbs ruling, the libs are still screaming, crying, rending their garments and gnashing their teeth over that ruling, the most important ruling of my lifetime, maybe in the history of the United States, which we'll get to in one second.
00:23:20.260 But on this very point, as you may have heard, much to the dismay of the left, Bill Gates, Moloch, the Sun Monster, all of the, but I repeat myself, sweet little Elisa and I recently welcomed our second baby boy.
00:23:37.120 You know, the Walshes are about to have twins.
00:23:39.660 They just announced that they're having twins.
00:23:41.040 Babies are multiplying all over the daily wire, okay?
00:23:43.920 And if you strive to be fruitful and multiply and thwart the libs by doing so, then look no further than the daily wire babies collection.
00:23:52.540 Get yourself the no leftist tears here bib or the stay napping, not woke onesie because babies and adults are best behaved when napping, not woke.
00:24:05.360 Go to dailywire.com slash shop or click the link in the description to clothe the next generation of Daily Wire Plus members today.
00:24:16.740 Jeremy can monetize anything.
00:24:18.640 You know, I mean, this guy, Harry's attacks us and then he just instantly starts his own razor company and now I have a baby.
00:24:27.120 Not two days later, this guy starts a baby shop.
00:24:29.660 That's really, he's good.
00:24:31.240 That guy, the God King is a very good businessman.
00:24:35.360 But the libs are still freaking out over the Dobbs decision.
00:24:39.200 They're still so angry.
00:24:41.300 And Karine Jean-Pierre, the president's spokesman, White House press secretary, is going even further than just decrying the decision.
00:24:49.920 She's going further to say that the Supreme Court's decision in Dobbs, the Supreme Court's decision was unconstitutional.
00:24:59.120 From day one, when the Supreme Court made this extreme decision to take away a constitutional right, it was an unconstitutional action by them, a right that was around for almost 50 years, a right that women had to make a decision on their bodies and how they want to start their families.
00:25:20.220 What does that even mean?
00:25:24.120 She's saying that, she could say that a pro-life law, that the Mississippi pro-life law was unconstitutional and the court got the decision wrong.
00:25:33.180 Or she could say that Roe v. Wade was unconstitutional, which is what the court said.
00:25:37.020 But she's actually saying that the court deciding to overrule a case is unconstitutional.
00:25:47.660 Does that, so when the court overruled the Dred Scott decision, when the court overruled the decision that said black people can't be citizens, was that unconstitutional of them to overrule that decision?
00:26:00.240 Is it, it's just unconstitutional for the court to overrule decisions that have been around for a long time?
00:26:05.140 Because that's the argument she's making here.
00:26:06.360 She said, this decision, Roe v. Wade, had been around for 50 years almost.
00:26:10.240 Yeah, there have been lots of bad decisions that have gone on for a long time that the court later reversed.
00:26:15.340 You're saying it's unconstitutional for the court to reverse it?
00:26:17.740 Are you saying that it's unconstitutional for the court to make constitutional judgments, to reverse laws and precedent?
00:26:29.560 Because then you would have to go back to the earliest days of the Supreme Court.
00:26:33.240 You would have to go back to Marbury v. Madison and get rid of the court's right to constitutional review, to judicial review.
00:26:40.900 Is that what she's saying?
00:26:42.060 I don't think she's saying any of that.
00:26:43.100 I think she's just saying words, and those words don't have any meaning.
00:26:48.080 And she's just blah, blah, blah.
00:26:49.480 And in the absence of an argument, she hopes that the cacophony that is coming out of her mouth will at least in some way resemble an argument and fool ignorant and stupid people into thinking that she is actually saying something when she is not.
00:27:06.280 It's important to note when the libs just sputter and babble and say nothing, because it is a tell that they have no argument.
00:27:17.800 Not all issues are totally black and white.
00:27:20.280 Sometimes, really, both sides can make good points, and we can try to determine who makes better points, and we can hash it out.
00:27:25.800 But when one of the sides doesn't even make an argument, just says, dibble-de-goo, gobble-de-goo, blah, blah, airplane, milk, eggs, onesie.
00:27:40.340 When they just say random words in a way that is not grammatical and certainly not logical or coherent, then that is a tell that they've got nothing, that actually this is a clear issue.
00:27:50.440 Of course, the court has the right to overrule Roe v. Wade.
00:27:53.540 I think they had an obligation to overrule Roe v. Wade, and it's a good decision, and the libs are just angry.
00:27:58.380 And what the libs are going to do is just neglect the logical, reasoned aspect of our politics, which is how self-government is supposed to be conducted.
00:28:08.960 And they're just going to try to enforce their own will and their own interest and club their opponents on the head without any logic or reason or discourse involved.
00:28:19.160 Speaking of good court rulings, great court ruling out of San Francisco.
00:28:25.840 So San Francisco wanted to let illegal aliens vote.
00:28:31.340 You've seen in liberal cities similar kinds of rules.
00:28:35.320 They want to let the foreign nationals vote in the elections.
00:28:39.600 San Francisco judge, San Francisco Superior Court judge Richard Ulmer says no.
00:28:44.960 Quote, transcendent law of, transcendent, transcendent law of California.
00:28:53.820 You can tell that I've got a four-day-old newborn, and I can barely read at this point.
00:28:57.520 The Constitution reserves the right to vote to a United States citizen, contrary to the San Francisco ordinance.
00:29:05.700 The ordinance would have allowed illegal aliens to vote in the school board elections, and this is wrong.
00:29:11.880 We talked about this a little bit yesterday.
00:29:13.500 Okay, this is part of the suicide of self-government.
00:29:20.920 When you have a nation, you have citizens of that nation, and not everyone is a citizen.
00:29:27.600 People who are traveling are not citizens.
00:29:29.980 Last year, I went to a wedding in France.
00:29:32.020 I was in France.
00:29:33.140 I was even subject to some of the laws of France, but I'm not a French citizen, so I didn't have certain privileges.
00:29:39.060 I couldn't vote in French elections.
00:29:40.760 I had to leave after a certain period of time.
00:29:44.200 There has to be, if you have a nation, there has to be a distinction between citizens and non-citizens.
00:29:48.820 The libs want to destroy that distinction, because the libs want to open up our borders,
00:29:53.660 because the libs believe, probably rightly, that if they flood the country with mass migration from Latin America,
00:30:00.200 that will give them an electoral advantage.
00:30:03.580 So the libs believe they'll get a little bit more power, but the cost of that power is going to be self-government,
00:30:10.100 because if the citizens don't have the right to pass the laws for their own nation,
00:30:16.340 then they don't have self-government anymore.
00:30:18.100 If foreign nationals can make laws for you, then you have lost your sovereignty.
00:30:22.620 You have lost your self-government.
00:30:25.040 You have lost your country.
00:30:26.860 And a judge, even in liberal San Francisco, recognizes that.
00:30:33.100 We've seen similar rulings coming up recently, but this is important,
00:30:38.240 because self-government usually does not die when the invading army comes in
00:30:42.660 and rapes, kills, pillages, and burns, and salts the fields.
00:30:46.780 And that's not really how it happens.
00:30:48.320 Self-government usually dies through suicide, through the atrophying of civic virtue,
00:30:54.380 through the ignorance of the populace, through decline in education, through apathy,
00:31:00.760 and through cynicism and opportunism to try to score a few cheap political points,
00:31:04.920 even at the cost of your political order.
00:31:07.000 That's how self-government dies.
00:31:09.020 And it's holding on now.
00:31:10.460 There have been some good moves, but it's really incumbent upon conservatives
00:31:13.640 to take hold of these opportunities that some of the judges are giving us and say,
00:31:17.540 no, we've got to build the wall.
00:31:19.220 We've got to deport the tens of millions of illegal aliens who are in the country.
00:31:23.400 We've got to button down our election laws.
00:31:25.460 We've got to make sure that there's a hard distinction between citizens and non-citizens.
00:31:28.920 Perhaps we need to revisit the question of birthright citizenship,
00:31:31.640 which has been controversial throughout all of American history.
00:31:35.100 And it's far from clear to me that the Constitution of the United States provides birthright citizenship.
00:31:40.900 I don't think that the people who drafted the Constitution and the amendments
00:31:44.940 really believed that they were giving citizenship to anyone who happened to have a kid on this soil.
00:31:51.880 If I go to France and sweet little buddy, my new little baby,
00:31:56.640 happened to be born while I was on vacation, he would not have become a citizen of France.
00:32:00.500 So why is the United States like this?
00:32:02.640 Why are we interpreting our Constitution this way?
00:32:05.240 We don't have all day.
00:32:07.060 We don't have all the time in the world here.
00:32:08.840 The political order is fraying.
00:32:10.360 And the last few years of COVID have not helped anything.
00:32:13.540 They've actually accelerated the decay.
00:32:15.420 So what are we going to do to maintain our political order?
00:32:19.660 Speaking of San Francisco, even more good news from San Francisco.
00:32:23.540 Can you believe that?
00:32:24.260 That's the first time I've ever uttered that statement.
00:32:28.000 San Francisco had this radical left-wing DA,
00:32:31.720 Cheza Boudin, whose parents are domestic terrorists from the Weather Underground.
00:32:36.460 And Cheza Boudin followed in the family's footsteps and let criminals off the hook and
00:32:42.860 almost single-handedly plunged San Francisco into just a crime-ridden, drug-filled, disgusting
00:32:50.120 hellhole.
00:32:51.420 And he was recalled by the voters of San Francisco, not the conservatives, not the Republicans,
00:32:55.900 the liberal left-wing voters of San Francisco.
00:32:59.460 So now there's a new DA in there, DA Brooke Jenkins.
00:33:02.760 And what is Brooke Jenkins doing?
00:33:05.060 Brooke Jenkins is putting the criminals in prison.
00:33:08.180 Brooke Jenkins just revoked more than 30 plea bargains that Cheza Boudin had offered to drug
00:33:14.880 peddlers.
00:33:16.240 This is part of a broader policy where she's going to go after the drug dealers who are
00:33:20.240 arrested with more than five grams of drugs.
00:33:22.900 She is going to stop them from being diverted toward these really lib, slap-on-the-hand kind
00:33:29.280 of courts.
00:33:29.580 She's going to make them go through the actual criminal justice system.
00:33:32.220 She's going to impose enhanced charges for dealers who are arrested within 1,000 feet
00:33:36.480 of a school.
00:33:37.500 She's going to seek pre-trial detention for fentanyl dealers in extreme cases.
00:33:42.440 So she's not going to let these drug dealers off on bail or bond or anything like that.
00:33:46.280 She's going to force them to sit in there, especially if they're dealing fentanyl, because
00:33:49.920 it's killing people.
00:33:51.720 She says, she goes, since 2020, nearly 1,500 people have died of drug overdoses, in part because
00:33:57.920 dealers have been allowed to operate with impunity, and we can't allow that to happen, of course.
00:34:04.260 Now, the lesson here, this is really clever how it's happening, because Brooke Jenkins,
00:34:08.520 I assume, is a huge lib.
00:34:09.760 The voters of San Francisco are overwhelmingly huge libs.
00:34:13.720 They kicked out Cheza Boudin.
00:34:15.120 They brought in this lady, and this lady is enforcing the law against the drug dealers.
00:34:19.200 How did that happen?
00:34:20.180 Again, the way it happened, politically speaking, is they reframed who the victims are.
00:34:28.240 The key to understanding this crime issue, especially the crime issue, but really a lot
00:34:34.280 of areas of politics, is you've got to frame who the victim is.
00:34:39.340 Conservatives decry victimhood culture.
00:34:41.440 Victimhood culture is a part of politics, always has been, always will be.
00:34:46.120 So rather than throw our hands up in the air and say, we don't want to talk about victims,
00:34:49.220 you've got to engage and point out who the real victims are.
00:34:53.100 Because what the libs have done is they've completely upended things, and they've said
00:34:57.400 that the perpetrators of crimes are the true victims, and the victims had it coming.
00:35:02.600 Ironically, the libs who always talk about victim blaming are the ones who blame the victim.
00:35:06.140 So they say, the drug dealers, the poison peddlers, the people who are killing our kids,
00:35:10.540 they're the victims.
00:35:12.440 They've been failed by society.
00:35:14.600 Those poor people, they were probably just a poor kid, got caught with a joint in his
00:35:21.300 pocket.
00:35:21.820 Now he's going to jail for decades, which doesn't happen, by the way.
00:35:26.240 Nobody goes to prison for simple possession.
00:35:29.780 Even if on paper it says people go to prison for simple possession, they don't.
00:35:33.880 They go to prison because they took plea deals down from trafficking charges, okay?
00:35:38.460 No, a statistically insignificant number of people go to jail for possession.
00:35:43.040 And when we're talking about simple possession, then we're talking about very serious drugs
00:35:46.840 that are very dangerous to a lot of people, okay?
00:35:49.640 These people, these poor, beleaguered, the society-failed-them people are poison peddlers
00:35:55.880 who work with organized crime, who, practically speaking, kill kids.
00:36:00.560 And they should be thrown in prison for a very, very long time.
00:36:03.520 We do not have an over-incarceration problem in America.
00:36:06.900 Obviously not.
00:36:07.660 Look around.
00:36:08.180 We've got crime going up everywhere.
00:36:09.580 When you've got crime going up, by definition, you don't have an over-incarceration problem.
00:36:14.800 You have an under-incarceration problem.
00:36:16.800 And it's not just the gangbangers, and it's not just the serial killers.
00:36:19.760 It's the drug addicts, and it's the drug dealers.
00:36:23.060 And usually, not usually, often they're the same people, but they're all part of the
00:36:26.900 same problem.
00:36:27.700 The life expectancy in the United States has declined for the first time ever, but it's
00:36:31.560 now happened several years in a row.
00:36:33.560 It's declined because of deaths of despair, suicides, and drug overdoses.
00:36:37.480 This is a major, major threat.
00:36:39.640 Throw these poison-peddling jerks in prison, and if you don't throw away the key, at least
00:36:45.600 hide the key for a very good, long time.
00:36:48.180 It's not just me saying this.
00:36:49.560 I'm a right-winger.
00:36:50.820 I'm a conservative.
00:36:51.640 It's even the libs.
00:36:52.600 They get it because they're living in these cities.
00:36:54.260 And they realize even the craziest, wildest libs don't want to live in a city with people
00:36:58.660 overdosing on the streets, trying to dodge heroin needles on the sidewalk, and having their
00:37:03.720 kids being preyed upon at school when you got the peddlers there trying to sell their
00:37:08.900 stuff, okay?
00:37:10.740 They get it.
00:37:11.580 Conservatives should get it too.
00:37:13.240 You just have to reframe, and I think accurately frame, who the victims are and who the criminals
00:37:19.780 are.
00:37:20.260 Speaking of out-of-touch Democrats, John Fetterman.
00:37:23.940 John Fetterman is running for Senate in Pennsylvania.
00:37:27.500 He's the lieutenant governor.
00:37:29.780 He frames himself as a working-class hero.
00:37:32.120 He dresses like a working-class hero.
00:37:33.900 You know, he just wears sweatsuits and hoodies.
00:37:36.820 He's got a kind of a goatee, and he's a real tough guy, you know?
00:37:41.320 It turns out Fetterman not only is not a working-class hero.
00:37:45.680 It turns out Fetterman has never even really worked.
00:37:49.800 A news report just came out that Fetterman lived for years and years and years.
00:37:58.580 Well into his 40s, not by the sweat of his own brow, he lived on a five-figure allowance
00:38:06.240 from mommy and daddy.
00:38:08.300 This guy, this guy, who's now, he's 52 years old right now.
00:38:11.800 He was elected mayor of Braddock, Pennsylvania, 2006.
00:38:16.640 Left that position in 2019 after he became lieutenant governor.
00:38:20.440 And his parents were just paying his way the whole time.
00:38:22.780 In 2015 alone, Fetterman's parents gave him $54,000.
00:38:29.520 $54,000.
00:38:30.640 How much was your allowance?
00:38:31.520 When I was a kid, my allowance was $1 a week, which I thought was generous.
00:38:35.060 It was more than most of my friends.
00:38:36.500 And then it got to be $2 a week.
00:38:38.080 And then I stopped getting allowance when I turned eight.
00:38:41.480 I don't know.
00:38:42.780 I started working when I turned 14.
00:38:44.600 And then I made my own money and spent my money.
00:38:49.500 I tried to do it responsibly.
00:38:51.620 John Fetterman got his allowance for about 40 years longer than I ever did.
00:38:57.860 And he got about $53,999 a year more than I did.
00:39:05.000 He's being framed as a hypocrite here.
00:39:06.660 And he obviously is a hypocrite.
00:39:07.940 He's pretending to be a hardened member of the working class.
00:39:11.860 And he's not.
00:39:12.380 He's never worked a day in his life.
00:39:13.520 He's just a trust fund baby.
00:39:15.480 Mommy and daddy pay his way.
00:39:16.880 Okay, he's a hypocrite, sure.
00:39:18.440 However, however, once you get past the hypocrisy, conservatives shouldn't go too far in this
00:39:25.640 direction, okay?
00:39:26.360 Because I actually don't mind when wealthy people enter into politics.
00:39:30.240 I think often that can be a good thing.
00:39:32.240 Sometimes you get corrupt wealthy people, but oftentimes you get corrupt poor people in
00:39:37.040 politics.
00:39:38.220 Because sometimes when people who don't have their own money enter into politics, then
00:39:43.160 they start taking handouts.
00:39:44.720 Then they start taking bribes.
00:39:45.820 Then they're susceptible to special interests.
00:39:47.620 Think about the greatest conservative president, certainly in my lifetime, was the richest president
00:39:53.200 we've ever had in American history, was Donald Trump.
00:39:55.860 So I don't think there should be a hard and fast rule.
00:39:57.840 The founding fathers were very, very wealthy men, by and large.
00:40:00.540 The second wealthiest president in American history was George Washington, our actual greatest
00:40:04.160 president ever.
00:40:04.800 However, the problem with Fetterman here is not that his family's wealthy.
00:40:10.320 The problem with Fetterman here is not that having money is in itself a bad thing.
00:40:15.860 The problem with Fetterman here is that he's a total fraud, just like his entire party,
00:40:20.480 especially on working class issues.
00:40:23.260 I'm thinking yesterday of that New Jersey elected Democrat who ran over the Uber Eats bicyclist
00:40:29.260 driver and then just kept on driving, didn't even slow down.
00:40:31.940 That's the way the left really feels about the working class, regardless of their fraudulent
00:40:36.220 claims to the contrary.
00:40:38.480 Speaking of prominent 2022 candidates, meant to get to this yesterday, didn't have time.
00:40:43.220 Great news out of Arizona, the Arizona Senate race.
00:40:46.320 Blake Masters, Blake Masters is running for Senate there.
00:40:50.660 We've had him on this show.
00:40:52.740 He won the Republican nomination to represent Arizona in the Senate.
00:40:57.240 I, as a rule, do not make primary endorsements because that's not really my job, having a
00:41:04.040 show.
00:41:04.460 I really want to keep an open mind and give people a fair shake.
00:41:07.720 But I was pulling for Blake Masters.
00:41:09.960 I feel he's an excellent candidate.
00:41:11.900 I think that Republican candidates around the country should model their campaigns off of
00:41:16.800 his.
00:41:17.400 I think he's doing a good job.
00:41:18.780 And I think he represents what people are calling the new right.
00:41:21.580 Getting rid of the stale, tired, often ridiculous slogans that have bedeviled Republican politics
00:41:30.280 in recent years that have led to lots of defeats.
00:41:34.620 And shaking up those stale kind of platitudes and engaging with politics in a new way.
00:41:41.020 One of my, in a new way, which is actually just the old way.
00:41:43.460 One of my favorite moments of the Masters campaign, and it's when he really won me over,
00:41:51.120 is when he put an ad out there and he said, I think that Americans should be able to raise
00:41:55.720 a family on a single income.
00:41:57.580 You used to be able to do that in America.
00:41:59.760 You can't do that anymore.
00:42:01.380 A lot of the reason you can't do that is because of political decisions that were made.
00:42:05.440 We in politics should, should reorder our political economy such that you can raise a
00:42:12.000 family on a single income.
00:42:13.140 I said, preach my man.
00:42:15.520 Shout it from the rooftops.
00:42:16.920 I absolutely, absolutely agree with that kind of thing.
00:42:21.100 The old Chamber of Commerce Republican, the old squishes, the old platitudes.
00:42:25.440 I don't care what you do.
00:42:26.420 Just leave me alone.
00:42:27.220 Don't raise my taxes.
00:42:28.340 That kind of GOP politics.
00:42:30.500 They would shudder at the thought of using the government to reorient the political economy
00:42:37.120 such that you can raise a family on a single income.
00:42:40.180 But why?
00:42:40.920 Plenty of political decisions led to the moment we're at now where you can't, where people
00:42:46.400 are not getting married because they have economic fears, where people are not having kids because
00:42:50.320 they have financial worries, where people are not moving on with their lives because they're
00:42:55.460 burdened with student debt and wages have been stagnant or depressed for decades, with
00:43:01.520 a brief exception during the Trump years when they started to creep back up.
00:43:04.240 Now they're down again.
00:43:05.040 That's a, that's a real, that's a real great way of engaging in politics.
00:43:11.720 I'm not throwing Ronald Reagan under the bus.
00:43:14.200 I'm not throwing the Cold War conservatives under the bus.
00:43:16.940 I'm really not.
00:43:17.600 They fought their battles.
00:43:19.020 I really admire Ronald Reagan.
00:43:20.260 I really admire William F. Buckley Jr.
00:43:21.780 I really admire those guys that won the Cold War.
00:43:23.660 They fought their battles.
00:43:24.860 Good for them.
00:43:25.740 But it's, it's 2022.
00:43:28.640 Folks, it's the year of our Lord, 2022.
00:43:31.900 Let Ronald Reagan sleep in the grave.
00:43:34.580 Please, this poor man, has he not done enough?
00:43:37.440 You've got to reanimate his corpse and have him come solve our problems too.
00:43:41.500 Let the man rest.
00:43:42.580 Let the man lie.
00:43:43.380 Same goes for Bill Buckley.
00:43:44.980 Same goes for so many of the conservative heroes of our past.
00:43:49.040 They fought their battles.
00:43:50.120 They dealt with their challenges.
00:43:51.300 We should deal with ours.
00:43:52.640 Politics is not just some eternal thing.
00:43:54.380 You figure out the five bullet points on the back of a napkin.
00:43:57.140 And there are your campaign ads for the next 25 years.
00:44:00.420 No.
00:44:01.520 Politics means applying eternal principles to constantly changing circumstances.
00:44:08.260 The Republicans worth their salt are the ones who don't only acknowledge the first part,
00:44:15.320 but acknowledge the second part as well.
00:44:17.520 Speaking of the new right, big vote yesterday in the U.S. Senate
00:44:21.460 on whether or not to sign off on expanding NATO to include Finland and Sweden.
00:44:28.300 By expanding NATO, this would obligate the United States to defend these countries in the event of an attack.
00:44:35.280 The vote was 95 to 1 in favor of allowing Finland and Sweden into NATO.
00:44:45.320 Senator Josh Hawley is the only senator who voted no on letting Sweden and Finland into NATO.
00:44:53.980 Josh Hawley was right.
00:44:56.160 He was right.
00:44:57.100 I do not think it is necessarily a good idea to expand NATO.
00:45:04.380 And I am not some radical, this is not just a new Trumpian crazy idea.
00:45:10.000 This was the common sense of the people who were smartest, who knew the most,
00:45:15.940 who were the most reasonable across party lines during the Cold War.
00:45:19.720 After the Berlin Wall fell, you had Cold War heroes, really aggressive dudes.
00:45:26.020 I'm thinking of Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
00:45:28.460 I'm thinking of Sam Nunn.
00:45:29.700 I'm thinking of George Kennan, who crafted the strategy of containment to contain Soviet communism.
00:45:34.980 All of them said, okay, great, we won this victory in the Cold War.
00:45:38.060 Don't squander it by recklessly expanding NATO.
00:45:41.840 That's not, you think you're projecting strength, but it's going to make the world more dangerous.
00:45:46.460 Don't do that.
00:45:47.320 That will make the world much more dangerous.
00:45:51.640 That will raise the possibility of war.
00:45:53.160 And that's what I fear is going on here.
00:45:55.800 Because there is such a thing as buffer nations.
00:45:58.880 You don't necessarily want two very powerful military alliances right up on the border with each other.
00:46:04.480 Okay?
00:46:04.960 Sometimes you want buffer nations.
00:46:07.820 And the role of a buffer nation is to play both sides off of one another and give a little bit of room
00:46:13.260 so that you don't have the sense of an imminent security threat right along your border.
00:46:18.440 A lot of what's going on in NATO right now, or a lot of what's going on, I'm sorry, in Ukraine right now,
00:46:23.180 is attributable to this mistake.
00:46:24.740 Had we followed George Kennan's advice, Sam Nunn's, Daniel Patrick Moynihan,
00:46:28.220 had we not continued to expand NATO eastward after the fall of the Berlin Wall?
00:46:33.100 Had we perceived what I think Josh Hawley is rightly perceiving here?
00:46:36.860 I'm not sure we would be in this problem right now with Ukraine.
00:46:40.840 I'm not sure that Americans necessarily have the appetite to go to war for Sweden or Finland.
00:46:48.180 And I don't think that letting Sweden and Finland into NATO is going to reduce the possibility of some conflict with Russia.
00:46:54.420 It's very hard to stand alone sometimes, though.
00:46:57.560 The people who are seeing the future for what it means to be a conservative, what it means to be a Republican,
00:47:03.100 I don't know that they're the majority right now.
00:47:07.460 But when you look at these elected officials or even some of the candidates who are saying things
00:47:13.120 that are a little out of the ordinary from what we've heard for the last five or ten years,
00:47:16.460 I think those are the people who are seeing what's really coming for the future of conservatism.
00:47:23.320 I think those are the people, people like Blake Masters,
00:47:25.440 who are saying things that, while shocking today, will be mainstream in the conservative movement.
00:47:33.100 In three years, five years, seven years, they will be mainstream or there just won't be much of a conservative movement.
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