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00:00:00.000 Sometimes the libs accuse conservatives of exaggerating our problems for political gain,

00:00:05.940 especially when it comes to the so-called social issues. That's why it's helpful when we can just

00:00:12.820 play clips of the libs in their own words. The woman you're about to hear is named Christy

00:00:19.640 Olezeski. She is a quack doctor, but she's not a fringe quack doctor. She is a professor and

00:00:27.400 practitioner at the Yale School of Medicine. She heads up Yale's pediatric gender program.

00:00:34.020 Her job is to convince three-year-olds to begin a lifelong process of chemical injections and

00:00:41.960 genital mutilations to make them look more like the opposite sex. I'm a clinical psychologist by

00:00:48.280 training, and I am the director of the Yale gender program, which is an interdisciplinary program

00:00:55.540 working with gender-expansive individuals, three to 25, and their families. We help individuals who

00:01:03.540 are questioning their gender identity or who identify as transgender or non-binary. We help

00:01:08.820 them with their gender journey, thinking through that, thinking through the risks and the benefits

00:01:14.520 of medical intervention, starting medical intervention, and also building supports around

00:01:21.440 them. I love what I do. So it's really, really wonderful to be working in this field and to

00:01:27.060 be working with individuals who are gender diverse and gaining their support and helping them on their

00:01:33.780 gender journeys. Three to 25. This woman works with individuals ages three to 25 to facilitate their

00:01:45.900 gender journeys. Three, the wildest predictions of the most alarmist religious right leaders of the past

00:01:57.200 several decades did not predict this. The slipperiest, slippery slope warnings did not predict the Ivy League

00:02:06.900 grooming three-year-olds to turn into castrati mutants. Our nation's mainstream liberal institutions,

00:02:15.640 not just the crazy radicals, the actual mainstream as establishment as it gets, Yale University,

00:02:23.260 have become more extreme than any of us could have possibly imagined. And the more predatory and

00:02:31.260 outright demonic that the leftists get, the more insistent they become that it's us conservatives who

00:02:38.340 have changed, that it's us conservatives who pose the threat to the country, that it's us conservatives

00:02:44.120 who must be stopped by any means necessary. And do not doubt for one second, people who gleefully

00:02:52.740 sterilize toddlers will attack their opponents using any means necessary. I'm Michael Knowles,

00:03:00.180 welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Mark McConville, who says,

00:03:12.800 my wife suggested a drinking game every time Michael says libs. I now have a serious buzz halfway through

00:03:19.920 the video. Oh yeah, you'll be dead by the end of the video. Because libs, it just sums it all up.

00:03:24.580 Some people want these really serious, self-serious terms, a very specific term. Actually, it should

00:03:30.060 be progressives. Actually, you should talk about the leftists. Actually, no, it's just the libs.

00:03:33.400 They're just the libs. The libs are the libs. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

00:03:38.660 Okay, and we've got to reach people, and we've got to use really simple, clear terms. When you want

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00:04:45.740 Podium.com slash Knowles. Podium. Let's grow. These pediatric gender clinics are cropping up

00:04:53.100 everywhere. There's one right here in Tennessee. Tennessee, right in our backyard at Vanderbilt.

00:04:57.700 Pediatric gender clinic. Absolutely horrifying stuff. Obviously should be shut down. Obviously,

00:05:03.980 this lady at Yale, Christy Olazeski, and all of the other psychos who are working with her

00:05:09.440 to trans three-year-olds, these people should all be in prison. First, we have to pass a law.

00:05:16.140 Banning this stuff. First, they need to lose their jobs. Then we need to pass a law banning

00:05:20.560 this stuff. And then the second these people continue to groom the little kids, and you know

00:05:24.920 they will, we need to put them in orange jumpsuits. And it's just as simple as that. This is spreading

00:05:30.540 like wildfire, like a social contagion, and it's specifically targeted at little kids. And it's not

00:05:36.820 just coming from the pervert in the white van sitting in the bad part of the neighborhood,

00:05:43.760 okay? It's not just coming from some sex trafficker, international criminal. It's not just coming from

00:05:50.900 the child porn producer. It's coming from Yale. It's coming from New York's Fashion Week. Here's a

00:05:57.520 story out of New York. A 10-year-old child has just become the youngest transgender model to walk

00:06:05.980 the runway at New York's Fashion Week. This young boy goes by Noella. He participated in the trans

00:06:15.200 clothing company show. This was created by the designer Mel Atkinson, this according to Metro.

00:06:21.360 And Noella, this little boy who the adults in his life are dressing up to be a little girl,

00:06:28.700 says, it feels good that I'm already inspiring trans kids to be themselves. Now, obviously,

00:06:35.380 what transgenderism does is the opposite. They encourage kids and all people not to be themselves,

00:06:41.320 to be other people, or to pretend to be other people, to have a little boy pretend to be a little

00:06:45.980 girl, or vice versa. I'm all for encouraging people to be themselves, and not even just themselves as

00:06:53.240 they are, but to be a perfect, good version of themselves. All people, they can go bad or they

00:07:00.220 can go good. They can get into a lot of vice and sin and bad stuff, or they can do good stuff,

00:07:06.220 pursue virtue, sanctity, holiness. And we should encourage the latter, not the former. It's not just

00:07:12.860 that you're born, some people are born good, some people are born bad. That's not true.

00:07:16.860 We have free will. We have a conception of what's good and what's bad. And we can know something

00:07:22.780 about that and pursue that. Here, we're getting the worst possible version. We're encouraging people

00:07:27.900 to only pursue really bad stuff, and then to just pretend to be totally different than they are

00:07:32.200 outright. How on earth does a 10-year-old kid wind up doing a drag dance at New York Fashion Week?

00:07:37.740 Obviously, because this poor little boy has pervert parents. His current guardians, that's how it's

00:07:44.100 described in the article. I don't even know what the relationship of these adults are to the kid.

00:07:49.780 I just know that they're perverts. Ray and Dee McMahon told Metro that Noella, who's this little boy,

00:07:58.980 began socially transitioning at the age of four. So you read that and you say, Ray and Dee,

00:08:04.520 that sounds like normal people, right? But I know they're not normal people because they're

00:08:07.940 transing their little four-year-old. So of course, these guys are both, guys or girls,

00:08:12.700 I don't know what they are, are both sexual deviants. They identify as non-binary. And so

00:08:18.540 whose fault is this? The primary fault is the fault of the parents. Or I don't know the parents,

00:08:24.260 the current guardians, as this is ambiguously described in the paper.

00:08:28.080 But the parents are the fault of us. That's really what this is about. We can't just say,

00:08:35.680 those guys are perverts or girls or whatever they are. We can't just say, they're perverts,

00:08:39.620 they're, this is their child abuse. Yeah, it is. They're primarily responsible. But we let this

00:08:45.040 happen. We let this happen. How on earth did these people adopt a child or do it, or through surrogacy

00:08:51.340 create a child? I actually don't know if it's two guys or two girls or a guy and a girl. The fact

00:08:57.500 that I don't know that is our fault politically because we've radically redefined marriage. So we

00:09:02.140 have no idea what marriage means. We tolerate all sorts of sexual degeneracy. So men can pretend to

00:09:07.200 be women and women can pretend to be men and they can pretend to be ambiguous. People are having a

00:09:11.560 surgery called sexual nullification. That means they just chop off their genitals entirely. And we

00:09:16.720 tolerate this. Not only do we tolerate this, we celebrate this. And if you in any way criticize

00:09:21.160 it, you're called a hater and you can be ostracized from society. I'm not sure that this video will

00:09:25.980 remain on YouTube. I broadcast my show in part on YouTube. I'm not sure that this will even be allowed

00:09:31.700 to be kept up because I don't think that these pervs should be allowed within 300 yards of a child.

00:09:37.100 And I don't think they should be able to pretend that their union is a marriage. And I don't think

00:09:40.900 they should be able to pretend that whichever one of them is a man, either or none of them is a

00:09:46.700 man is a girl or vice versa, or that they're neither. That's our fault. We let it get this

00:09:51.780 far. We in the political community, we let the libs go this far because so many conservatives,

00:09:57.980 what did they say? Well, it doesn't affect me. I think government should get out of the marriage

00:10:03.020 business entirely. Well, I don't know what people do in their bedroom between consenting adults.

00:10:07.700 That's none of my business. I don't know. I think this is my business. I don't want kids on drag

00:10:11.220 red carpets. I don't want kids, little boys dancing around like little girls for the

00:10:17.580 satisfaction of perverts at New York's Fashion Week. I don't want these Yale psychopaths to be

00:10:22.780 able to trans three-year-olds. That's a political problem. That's why the government's always

00:10:28.700 involved in marriage, by the way, because marriage is the fundamental political institution. And the

00:10:32.780 state, meaning the political community, obviously has an interest and obviously always has some kind

00:10:38.720 say in how to raise the next generation. That's what it is. That's what marriage is. Marriage is

00:10:44.500 a lifelong bond, a union between a man and a woman for the sake of the generation, the procreation,

00:10:50.820 and the education of children. We have a say about that, or we should, or we just let this go.

00:11:00.580 And I blame the libs, but I expect it of the libs. Really here, my special ire is for those squishy

00:11:10.140 conservatives who let it get this far because they didn't have the moral clarity, or even if they did

00:11:15.620 have the moral clarity in a lot of cases, they didn't have the moral courage to say, no, sorry,

00:11:20.800 Ray and D. McMahon. You don't get to pretend that your non-binary union is a marriage, and you don't get

00:11:28.220 to either purchase a child or adopt a child or rent a woman's womb and create a child in this way that

00:11:34.500 establishes the domination of technology over the origin and destiny of the human person. And it's

00:11:39.580 not about you. You don't get to do your weird stuff. Sorry, there are rules and standards, and we are

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00:13:16.500 That is puretalk.com, promo code NOLSPODCAST. Speaking of fashion, there is a pastor in Kansas

00:13:24.820 City. I'm going to use that term pastor loosely. I don't know what kind of bizarre sect this guy is

00:13:30.620 a pastor of, but he calls himself a pastor. He's got some sort of flock in Kansas City. And he's very

00:13:36.920 upset at his congregation because his congregation would not buy him an expensive Movado watch.

00:13:46.500 See, that's how I know you're still poor, broke, busted, and disgusted because of how you've been

00:13:50.320 honoring me. I'm not worth your McDonald's money. I'm not worth your Red Lobster money.

00:14:01.660 I ain't worth your St. John Nick. Y'all can't afford it, no how. I ain't worth y'all Louis Vuitton.

00:14:12.740 I ain't worth your Prada. I'm not worth your Gucci.

00:14:20.980 Mother, ooh, I'm saying this, and I promise you, Deaconita's not with respect and want.

00:14:24.380 I'm saying it because I want you to understand just what God is saying. You can buy a Movado watch

00:14:29.180 in Sam's. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. And y'all know I asked for one last year. Here it is the

00:14:34.780 whole way in August. I still ain't got it. Y'all ain't saying nothing. Let me kick down the door and

00:14:39.560 talk to my cheap sons and daughters. So I really get a kick out of this guy.

00:14:44.480 What he's doing is evil, but it gave me a great idea because I don't want a Movado. Movado,

00:14:50.020 I find, is a little too modernist. It's a little too, but I would like a Patek Philippe watch.

00:14:55.200 And they're, you know, look, they're a bargain. You can get those for anywhere from, what,

00:14:59.120 $20,000 to a few million. And so I think this guy can do it to his flock here.

00:15:07.240 We've got, there are a lot of listeners out there. What? You listeners out there,

00:15:11.280 you're too cheap to buy me a Patek Philippe watch. You're listening to this show every day.

00:15:16.260 Every single day I'm sitting here, you know, I want a nice $200,000 Patek Philippe watch and

00:15:21.720 you're too cheap. You're too busted to buy me that watch. You would probably be pretty offended if

00:15:27.480 I said that. I would like the watch by the way, but you would probably be pretty, pretty offended

00:15:31.060 if I said that and rightly so. And you would have the right to be much, much more offended

00:15:36.620 if I were speaking as a pastor. I mean, that guy is dressed up like a priest. He's obviously not a

00:15:42.720 priest, but he puts on the uniform of a priest. He has a little collar, a fake collar or some

00:15:48.040 whatever fake religious orders this guy took. And he's using that from the position of a wolf

00:15:55.000 in sheep's clothing, which is very specifically warned about in the Bible. And he's trying to

00:16:01.360 fleece his flock to buy him nice jewelry. We tend to have a more visceral and negative reaction

00:16:10.560 to guys like this, even than we do to the atheists, even than we do to the radicals,

00:16:18.380 perhaps even than we do to the blasphemers and the heretics and the libs. I guess this guy is a

00:16:24.800 heretic. But we have a more visceral reaction to people who pretend to be on our side, but are

00:16:34.720 actually coming from the position of our enemies and our opponents. This actually explains why the

00:16:41.960 conservatives are so revved up against Liz Cheney. Because if you just look at voting record,

00:16:49.000 is Liz Cheney worse than Nancy Pelosi? No, of course not, not even close. If you just

00:16:54.620 looked at voting record, Liz Cheney is more conservative than her replacement in the

00:17:01.620 House leadership, Elise Stefanik. Elise Stefanik has a much more liberal voting record than Liz

00:17:06.500 Cheney. Now, you might say Elise Stefanik is from New York. She's got a more liberal district.

00:17:12.180 Liz Cheney from Wyoming. But whatever, that's just if you look at the voting record.

00:17:17.880 But Liz Cheney puts on the Republican skin, puts on the Republican collar and uniform as a wolf in

00:17:28.700 sheep's clothing. Because every time it matters, every time there's a vote that counts, she sides

00:17:34.900 with the libs. John McCain used to do this. John McCain talked a good game. He sided with the

00:17:39.860 Republicans. He even sided with Trump, whom he hated, I think 83 to 85 percent of the time, even

00:17:45.400 Trump. And yet on the crucial votes, on the Obamacare vote, the vote that he, John McCain ran

00:17:52.140 his last campaign saying, I will vote against Obamacare. I will vote to overturn Obamacare.

00:17:57.500 And when it comes to that moment, John McCain walks into the room, into the Senate. He's going to be

00:18:03.660 the deciding vote. He votes no. Wolves in sheep's clothing. And we react naturally, and I think

00:18:11.740 rightly against this, because we understand that betrayal is a very, very bad sin. Dante keeps

00:18:18.380 coming up this week. In Dante's Inferno, in hell, the lowest sin, the absolute pit of hell that you

00:18:26.360 find Satan frozen in a lake of ice is betrayal, specifically the betrayal of one's benefactors.

00:18:33.340 At the bottom of hell, you've got this three-headed Satan gnawing on three people in the three heads.

00:18:39.340 Judas, Brutus, and Cassius, people who betray their benefactors. Judas, obviously, who betrays

00:18:45.580 Christ. That's why we react against that. And we're right to. Do not betray your flock. Do not lead

00:18:54.400 one of the little ones astray. There's that verse in the New Testament where Christ is saying,

00:18:58.820 people who lead even any of these little ones into sin, who cause even these little ones to stumble,

00:19:06.700 it would be better for that man to have millstones tied around his neck. And very often, this verse

00:19:11.320 is misinterpreted as talking about physically attacking a little one or abortion, maybe killing

00:19:16.100 a little one. But it's actually causing the little one to stumble. It's actually referring to scandal.

00:19:20.760 It's referring to wolves in sheep's clothing coming in and betraying their mission and betraying their

00:19:25.760 flock and leading people astray. Don't do that. Don't do it for a Movado watch. Don't do it for a

00:19:33.700 nice plush profile in the New York Times. Don't do it for a cushy gig on MSNBC or CNN.

00:19:41.120 Speaking of religion, one of the most famous or infamous new atheists of the 2000s, Sam Harris.

00:19:51.780 The new atheists, for those who don't remember, was Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins,

00:19:57.360 and Daniel Dennett. And it was more a publishing phenomenon than it was a real intellectual movement.

00:20:03.480 But it was a bunch of guys who said religion is bad. And they did it because they were attacking

00:20:07.720 Islam because radical Islam was a big topic of concern then after 9-11. And they used the

00:20:14.840 specifics of Islamic terror attacks to attack religion generally. And a bunch of very shallow

00:20:20.840 thinking teenagers thought this was really smart. I was one of those shallow thinking teenagers. I was

00:20:25.580 really taken up by it. The new atheists have aged like milk. And now the new atheists are not even

00:20:31.400 being applauded by the libs because they've transgressed certain norms of wokeness and political

00:20:37.620 correctness. But it's worth remembering, these guys, Hitchens is dead, but Dawkins, Dennett,

00:20:44.720 and Sam Harris. Even though they sometimes contradict political correctness, they are men

00:20:51.200 of the left. Sam Harris just proved this when in an interview, he said, look, yeah, it's bad that the

00:20:58.500 liberal oligarchy, Twitter and big tech, it's bad that they covered up the Hunter Biden laptop story and

00:21:05.300 they censored the New York Post and they stopped people from messaging the story, which was damaging

00:21:09.500 to the Bidens to one another. That's bad. But, you know, look, it was to stop Trump. So yeah, censor

00:21:15.240 away.

00:21:16.240 At that point, Hunter Biden literally could have had the corpses of children in his basement.

00:21:22.300 I would not have cared, right? It's like, there's nothing. First of all, it's Hunter Biden,

00:21:27.020 right? It's not, it's like, it's not Joe Biden, but even if Joe, like even whatever scope of Joe

00:21:33.540 Biden's corruption is, like if we could just go down that rabbit hole endlessly and understand that

00:21:39.700 he's getting kickbacks from Hunter Biden's deals in Ukraine or wherever else, right? Or China. It is

00:21:46.440 infinitesimal compared to the corruption we know Trump is involved in. Now that's not, that doesn't

00:21:54.120 answer the people who say it's still completely unfair to not have looked at the laptop in a

00:22:00.500 timely way and to have shut down the, you know, the New York Post's Twitter account like that.

00:22:04.880 That's just a conspiracy. That's a left wing conspiracy to deny the presidency to Donald Trump.

00:22:11.340 Absolutely. It was absolutely right. But I think it was warranted.

00:22:15.600 It was a left wing conspiracy. It was censorship. It was wrong. Maybe it was illegal. I don't know.

00:22:22.980 So, but who cares? It was all sorts of sin, sinful and all sorts of terrible, but it was worth it.

00:22:30.020 So on the surface, this story is not that interesting. Wow. One of the most famous

00:22:33.840 atheists in America is advocating immorality. Not exactly a man bites dog story. Of course,

00:22:40.800 the guy has no real solid moral foundation. He has tried to create some way of justifying the

00:22:50.220 existence of objective morality without God. That is a fool's errand. That's not possible.

00:22:55.160 So when push comes to shove, when it gets to something he really, really wants, like kicking

00:22:58.120 Trump out of office, he says, yeah, the ends justify the means. It's immoral, but whatever,

00:23:02.920 you know, who cares? Sure. Sure. The bigger takeaway here is that the libs will do anything to stop Trump

00:23:13.580 and his supporters, even Sam Harris. Sam Harris, by today's standards, is one of the more moderate

00:23:18.960 libs. And even he says, yeah, do anything to stop Trump because they called Trump Hitler. They said

00:23:24.660 Trump is Hitler. Trump is the embodiment of evil. And so if they use that kind of language for Trump

00:23:29.480 and his supporters and you and me folks and anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton, if they use that

00:23:35.760 kind of language, then of course they will do absolutely anything to stop us. We can't be surprised

00:23:41.920 when people who kill the babies and trans the kids and rig elections and censor all sorts of material

00:23:48.260 and who admit that these things are immoral. When they do those sorts of things, we cannot be

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00:24:52.300 The Libs will go to any length to stop Trump. And by Trump, we mean you and me and all the

00:25:05.160 conservatives. Trump is a symbol. Trump is a vessel. All political candidates are to some degree

00:25:11.820 symbols and vessels. And Trump, he said this himself. He said, they're not just coming after me.

00:25:16.840 They're only coming after me because they want to get to you and I happen to be in the way. I'm the

00:25:21.420 representative of you. That's why they're going after me. It's not just MSNBC and CNN. It's not just

00:25:27.880 the online atheist authors and public intellectuals. It's the deep state, okay? The real, the actual deep

00:25:36.740 state. It's the blob. It's the whole liberal establishment starting with the media and big tech

00:25:44.200 as the publishing platform of the media, the publishing platform of the publishing platforms.

00:25:49.980 You saw a tweet that came out just the other day from Edward Luce. Edward Luce is an associate

00:25:56.540 editor of the Financial Times, very mainstream established paper. He says, I've covered extremism

00:26:03.040 and violent ideologies around the world over my career. Have never come across a political force

00:26:09.620 more nihilistic, dangerous, and contemptible than today's Republicans. Nothing close. A ridiculous

00:26:15.920 statement, which we'll get to in one second. But the real kicker here is that insane comment was

00:26:21.920 retweeted by the former CIA director, Michael Hayden. Michael Hayden says, I agree and I was the

00:26:28.540 CIA director. And by the way, Michael Hayden wasn't Obama's CIA director. Michael Hayden was George W.

00:26:35.360 Bush's CIA director. He was a Republican appointee, albeit from the liberal wing of the Republican Party.

00:26:40.900 The Bushes, going all the way back to granddaddy Prescott, have come from the liberal wing of the

00:26:45.840 Republican Party. This is why Reagan and Bush were a team together, because they ran against one another

00:26:51.780 in the primaries in 1980, because Reagan represented the conservative wing of the party, and George H.W.

00:26:58.400 Bush represented the liberal wing. General Michael Hayden, military background, CIA background,

00:27:04.300 he agrees with the statement that today's Republicans are the most nihilistic, dangerous, and contemptible

00:27:13.900 force ever, that they've ever seen in the whole wide world, not just in America. ISIS? Oh, nothing

00:27:22.480 compared to the Republicans. Al-Qaeda? The Chinese Communist Party? Mean Mr. Putin? I thought Putin was the

00:27:32.860 worst guy ever. No, no, no. Not compared to Ron DeSantis, I guess. Not compared to Ted Cruz,

00:27:39.260 I suppose. Certainly not compared to Trump. Now, it makes, of course, no sense. The only political

00:27:47.040 group that I would apply the term nihilistic to in America would be the left. The left. To be nihilistic

00:27:55.640 is to believe that nothing really means anything at all. To be just absolutely, totally blackpilled and

00:28:02.320 just want to burn it down. First of all, the libs literally burn the country down. But furthermore,

00:28:06.260 they're chopping up little kids right now because they don't think our bodies really have meaning or

00:28:10.400 don't really have an objective kind of intrinsic meaning. They're chopping up little kids. They're

00:28:15.240 killing babies, 850,000 a year. They're trying to assassinate Supreme Court justices who are in any

00:28:21.340 way threatening their right to kill babies. They're upending our institutions. They're defending

00:28:26.080 rigging elections. They're defending censorship. If you're going to call anyone nihilistic,

00:28:29.900 it's so bizarre to accuse the Republicans who say, hey, guys, would it be possible? We're not even

00:28:36.700 going to outlaw all abortions. Do we just have slightly fewer every year? I have never seen a

00:28:43.400 more extreme nihilistic date. Hey, guys, would it be? Look, if we're going to chop off people's

00:28:48.960 appendages and stuff and pump them full of hormones and turn them into castrati, can we wait until

00:28:54.200 they're, I don't know, like five? I've never seen a more extreme, evil, dangerous. Hey, guys,

00:29:03.500 could we, you know, marriage, you know, it's fundamental in the unit of society. Could we,

00:29:07.480 you know how there was a definition of it for all of human history everywhere until like five minutes

00:29:13.520 ago? Maybe you should, I've never seen a more extreme. You, you probably don't even want us to

00:29:20.720 go to monkeypox orgies. Well, okay. All right, fine. That's what they say. That's what they believe.

00:29:27.600 Michael Hayden is not just some crazy bluejack. He is a crazy bluejack. He is a lib, I guess, but he,

00:29:34.760 the guy was the CIA director, okay? The guy was a general. This stuff is in institutions that wield

00:29:44.680 extraordinary, covert, clandestine, often abused, unaccountable power against you. They're telling

00:29:56.240 you that. When people tell you what they're doing, you should believe them. So what do the Republicans

00:30:02.880 do in this case? Elon Musk has an idea. And I get a real kick out of Elon Musk. The guy's doing a lot

00:30:09.420 of good in many ways in the world. But this one was a head scratcher. Elon Musk was asked by a donor

00:30:14.800 what the Republican Party needs to do better. And Elon Musk said that the GOP needs to be more

00:30:21.620 compassionate on immigration. He says that the GOP needs to be more compassionate to potential

00:30:28.160 newcomers. And he noted that this is, he believes this in part because he chose America for its

00:30:34.040 opportunities. He says, immigrants are vital to maintaining a dynamic economy.

00:30:42.140 How much more welcoming to newcomers can we be? We let in millions of people every year. We allow

00:30:51.080 1 million people to come into this country every year legally. And almost no one is even challenging

00:30:56.960 that. Even though the vast majority of the American people on poll after poll reflect and express that

00:31:02.960 they want to drastically reduce the number of legal immigrants who are brought into this country by about

00:31:07.380 60 percent. Still, no one in either of the major parties really talks about that. Very few people.

00:31:15.560 Then on top of the million legal immigrants we allow in every year, we allow 2 million illegal

00:31:19.860 immigrants. It's probably going to be more than that this year under Biden. And we've done this for

00:31:24.260 decades now. The numbers have increased pretty dramatically recently. But we've allowed untold

00:31:30.020 masses of foreign nationals to pour into our country. And then we give them all kinds of goodies.

00:31:35.400 And we give them all kinds of resources. And we allow them to participate in our government. We give

00:31:40.460 them the rights of citizens in many cases. How much more compassionate can we be? I think we've been

00:31:49.220 maybe a little overly compassionate, not compassionate enough to our own citizens. I think we've been a

00:31:55.060 little reckless actually and imprudent. How much more compassionate can you possibly be? This is an

00:32:03.840 issue of meta-politics. This is not just an issue of the immigrants. It's an issue of meta-politics.

00:32:10.520 The movement of immigrants into America over the past 60 years or so is the largest migration of

00:32:19.960 people ever in recorded history. How much more compassionate can we be? What that does is it

00:32:26.760 changes our political landscape. The reason the Democrats encourage this, the reason the Democrats

00:32:31.180 changed all our immigration laws is because they feel that by changing the makeup of the country,

00:32:37.540 the actual people in the country, they will get an electoral advantage. And the data bear that out.

00:32:44.180 Maybe not as much of an advantage as they think that they're getting, but it will give them an

00:32:48.980 advantage, a generational advantage as well. And they know it and they brag about it. And they've been

00:32:53.740 bragging about this in academic papers and in the mainstream media for 20 years now. And the Republicans

00:32:59.860 are supposed to, what, go even more in that direction? I don't think so. That's called, not only is

00:33:05.520 that reckless, not only is that wrong, politically it's also suicidal. You know, our mailbag is

00:33:13.180 sponsored by Pure Talk. You know how much I absolutely adore Pure Talk. Go to Pure Talk today,

00:33:18.880 select a plan, enter promo code NOELSPODCAST to get one month free. Let's first, before we get to the

00:33:26.840 written mailbag, let's get to the voicemail bag.

00:33:30.500 Hey, Michael, I listened to you on Ben Shapiro's show the other day, and you got to the mailbag part

00:33:35.380 where you're talking about how we shouldn't give the death penalty to rapists because that would

00:33:39.500 incentivize them to kill their victims. But I feel like that's contradictory to things you've said in

00:33:45.020 the past about how laws affect people's behavior because culture is downstream of politics. And if you

00:33:52.460 make harsher punishments for crimes, then that makes people less likely to do crime.

00:33:57.340 So why shouldn't we make harsher punishments for rape, i.e. capital punishment, death penalty,

00:34:03.660 so that less people would rape? But you said on Ben Shapiro's show that it wouldn't, well,

00:34:09.500 you didn't say it wouldn't decrease rape. You just said it would incentivize people to kill their

00:34:12.440 victims. But the implication there is that it wouldn't decrease the amount of rapes.

00:34:16.460 It would just increase the amount of people who are raped and murdered. Can you explain that to me?

00:34:21.240 Well, thank you very much. You were right up until that very moment, and you even caught yourself,

00:34:27.120 and you said, well, okay, you didn't say that it wouldn't decrease rape. But the implication was,

00:34:33.660 but no, your implication, the thing that you inferred is not something that I implied.

00:34:39.880 Yes, it is true. Harsher punishments for rape would disincentivize rape. And because the law is a

00:34:45.940 teacher, you would get less rape. Sure. But at the same time, simultaneously, you would incentivize

00:34:53.760 the rapists who do commit rape to kill their victims if the punishment for murder and the

00:34:59.300 punishment for rape were the same. Because the rapist, in a regime in which rape is punished less

00:35:07.640 severely than murder, the rapist has some incentive not to kill his victim. Even though by not killing

00:35:13.040 his victim, he increases the chances that he'll be caught because the victim could go to the police

00:35:17.220 and say what happened. But in a regime in which rape and murder get the exact same punishment,

00:35:22.600 then the rapist has absolutely no incentive whatsoever other than his own obviously malfunctioning

00:35:27.640 conscience or the conscience that he doesn't really listen to not to murder his victim. So you create

00:35:31.960 an incentive for the rapist to do that. So what we have here is a balancing of different incentives

00:35:39.440 and different desirable outcomes. And what we have to apply here is prudence. I agree. If you gave the

00:35:49.620 death penalty to rapists, you might and very likely would reduce the total number of rapes. You would

00:35:55.280 never get the total number of rapes to zero. But you probably would reduce the number of rapes. But you

00:36:00.660 would increase the number of rape victims who are murdered. And I don't think that's worth the cost.

00:36:05.860 So from the position of prudence, I would say it is worth reducing somewhat the punishment for rape

00:36:14.500 if you are going to decrease the number of rape victims who are murdered, even if by doing so you

00:36:23.220 somewhat increase the incentives to commit a rape or the prevalence of rape. Again, I mean,

00:36:29.460 we can't really know the degree to which these things would shift statistically. But even granting the

00:36:35.720 premise, I just think from a prudential point of view, by decreasing the number of rape victims who

00:36:40.580 are murdered, that would be worth tolerating getting rid of one of the disincentives to rape. But it's a

00:36:47.500 judgment call. It's a call for prudence. It's not an exact science. That's why statecraft is much more

00:36:54.800 of an art than it is a sort of science that can just be plugged into a computer and formulated by a

00:37:00.640 robot. Next question. Hey, Mike, congratulations on the new little bundle of joy. I hope it's keeping

00:37:09.180 you up all night. And I have a question of utmost importance for you. This is quite literally,

00:37:18.060 potentially a matter of life and death. It is that important. Are you a soda or a pop kind of guy?

00:37:31.560 Or are you one of those crazy psychopaths that calls everything coke? Yeah. Inquiring minds need to know.

00:37:42.920 Thanks. Soda. The correct answer is soda. I agree with you. The absolute decadent

00:37:53.280 maniacs who refer to all different sodas as coke, all of a sprite coke, they cannot be helped. I don't

00:38:02.480 know how to reach those people. But I call it soda because I grew up on the coasts, grew up in New York.

00:38:08.360 We call it soda. We're not, we're not nice, wholesome Midwestern people there. We don't call

00:38:12.340 it pop. We call it soda. Although these days I don't drink a lot of soda. I drink silly seltzer

00:38:18.980 water because I am a millennial. I drink black coffee. I drink, I drink, you know, something a

00:38:26.340 little more exciting. It's a little more similar to a Coca-Cola, but not a soda. Later on after dinner

00:38:31.360 and occasionally when I'm feeling sweet and saucy, I will drink an egg cream soda. But all

00:38:38.160 the time, it's always a soda, not pop. Next question.

00:38:42.140 Hey, Michael. So I have a funny story that kind of relates to what you were talking about

00:38:48.400 in a previous episode. So in 2012, I believe, when Obama was running, a felon from, I think

00:38:57.280 it was Texas, beat him in a lot of West Virginia counties. Like it was 40-60. Like it was really

00:39:04.960 close. Made me laugh. Complete topic change right here. My sister, who's been struggling

00:39:12.100 with infertility, we were talking, she asked me how I felt about Roe versus Wade. I said

00:39:19.080 I 110% agree. It shouldn't have even been decided in the first place. Like it was great that it

00:39:24.220 was overturned. And she said, I agree. Abortion should never be used as birth control because

00:39:31.600 you know, women are responsible for their actions, right? And then we got to the topic of rape.

00:39:39.660 She said, and I quote, if I went out today, got raped, and got pregnant, me being infertile,

00:39:48.500 I would 100% no questions asked get an abortion. That made no sense to me. And then she got really

00:39:55.200 mad at me when I said, execute the rapist. Don't execute the baby. The baby had nothing to do with

00:40:01.300 it. So we went back and forth. And then she got really mad at me. But I mean, we're still cordial,

00:40:08.480 like I'm close with my sister. But yeah, that argument made absolutely no sense. Thank you.

00:40:14.720 A good point. Yes, the argument doesn't make sense. But it's one that I've found a lot of

00:40:20.060 pro-life people and conservatives stumble on. They get tripped up on when they are confronted with it,

00:40:27.060 which is what about the case of rape? Are you telling me that if a woman is raped and becomes

00:40:31.520 pregnant, that you would make her carry that baby to term? And of course, the percentage of abortions

00:40:39.260 that take place in the context of rape, it's less than 1%. So it's really just a distraction

00:40:45.360 because the libs don't want to deal with statistically 100% of abortions, which are

00:40:50.320 elective. So they bring that up, and this is the hard case. But the premise here is that you can

00:40:58.680 undo the rape. You can make the rape all better. You can make the rape go away if you just kill the

00:41:04.700 baby. And that's a ridiculous premise. We should not accept that premise.

00:41:10.220 The woman is raped. Now she's pregnant and confronted with a choice. Do you kill the baby

00:41:15.940 or not? The two questions from a moral standpoint are completely unrelated.

00:41:23.940 The rape is bad. The rape is a trauma. The woman is going to have to work through that rape

00:41:28.340 spiritually, psychologically, perhaps physically. Abortion isn't going to fix any of that.

00:41:37.820 Then you have the question, should the woman kill the baby in addition to that? And by the way,

00:41:42.300 if the woman does kill the baby and they're not going to tell you this in the pro-abortion

00:41:45.080 lecture or class, if the woman does kill the baby, she's going to have a trauma from that too.

00:41:50.600 One, she's going to have to, in a sense, give birth to it one way or the other. You've got to get the

00:41:54.900 baby out of there. And two, she's going to have the nagging guilt of the reality that she killed the

00:42:00.260 baby. So you're adding trauma onto trauma. But even putting that aside for a second,

00:42:08.860 nothing about getting the abortion is going to in any way change the rape. So you've got to call

00:42:13.940 them out on that. You say, yeah, I don't think that women who have been victimized and raped

00:42:17.780 should then have the additional trauma of committing a murder. All right, next question.

00:42:21.860 Hey, Michael, my name is Brayden. I just listened to your episode where you talked about essentially

00:42:27.940 the immorality of a homosexual couple adopting a child, just the concept in general. My question

00:42:35.180 is, what about those children that need a home, absolutely need a home, need to be adopted,

00:42:41.800 what have you, and a broken home is better than no home at all. And you have a loving homosexual

00:42:48.460 couple willing to take them in and be a caretaker and a guardian for that child. I'm just curious

00:42:55.380 your response to that. Thank you. Well, we've got to distinguish between two radically different

00:43:01.300 forms of adoption. One is the adoption of newborn babies, and the other is the fostering of children

00:43:07.960 who are in orphanages usually run by the state. Those are very, very different types of abortion.

00:43:14.640 And the libs and the radicals who want to redefine the family and who want to mainstream things like

00:43:21.040 single-parent adoption or homosexual adoption, they try to conflate the two because it's helpful

00:43:25.640 for their argument. But I think we would all grant those are very different types of adoption.

00:43:31.780 And in the case of the adoption of newborns, the premise of your question ceases to make sense

00:43:38.660 because what you will hear is, as you said, what about all those babies who need a home and can't

00:43:44.360 get a home? In the case of newborn adoption in the United States, that doesn't exist. That's

00:43:48.860 completely made up. Lump that away with the boogeyman and Bigfoot. In the United States,

00:43:55.600 there are an estimated 36 to 38 couples who are trying to adopt newborn babies for every single

00:44:02.440 newborn baby put up for adoption. It is incredibly difficult to adopt a baby in the United States.

00:44:08.480 It's very expensive. People wait years to do it. Friends of mine, family members of mine who

00:44:14.500 have adopted babies have gone through years and heartbreak and all sorts, because of how difficult

00:44:19.680 it is, because there's a dearth of babies. In the case of orphanages and the foster care system,

00:44:26.100 that's different. Because in that case, you're talking about children who have been in terrible

00:44:32.380 homes, who have very frequently been abused and neglected, children who are much, much older,

00:44:37.260 children who could be even in their teenage years. And so it's wonderful when people foster those

00:44:42.580 children and take them into their own homes. But that's just a totally different sort of

00:44:47.120 circumstance. And so if you're asking me, should homosexuals, homosexual couples or throuples or

00:44:55.640 single parents be allowed to adopt, single parents of any sort of sexual persuasion be allowed to adopt

00:45:01.080 newborn babies? I would say, of course, absolutely not. That's insane. A child has a right to his natural

00:45:06.780 mother and father. Men and women both have something to contribute to the rearing of children.

00:45:12.740 Marriage actually has a meaning, and it's the same thing that it's meant forever,

00:45:15.960 and not what the libs pretend that it means today. And so no, it would be wrong to deny a child

00:45:20.520 of a real family, of a proper marriage, and that context to grow up in, just because of the politically

00:45:27.920 correct fantasies that we live in today. But if you're asking me, and in that case, you're saying,

00:45:35.460 should the state give an advantage to the real married couple that wants to adopt the child or

00:45:41.840 say, no, we're agnostic. Could be a single mother, could be a homosexual couple or 3-0, could be whatever.

00:45:47.080 However, in the case of the foster care, you're saying, should homosexuals or single mothers or

00:45:54.220 whoever be allowed to take in children who are languishing in orphanages, certainly outside the

00:46:01.840 context of a marriage or outside of a family, who are much older, who are not as desired in terms of

00:46:07.740 adoption as the newborns are. That's a very different conversation. I would be much more open to that

00:46:13.280 conversation, obviously, because they're just kind of apples and oranges. But the last thing we should

00:46:18.720 do is to conflate the two. Okay, before we go, let's get one question that's written from Steve.

00:46:24.700 Michael, you've probably answered this before. Why do you use the term liberal to describe the illiberal

00:46:28.600 left? Everything about their behavior makes them Woodrow Wilson-style progressives. As I listen to your

00:46:32.840 live show right now, you're contrasting the concepts of liberalism, progressive, and leftism. I think you are

00:46:37.440 one who strives for precision in language. Why not in this case? Thanks, Steve. I am being precise in this

00:46:42.380 case. There are two schools of thought among conservatives about liberalism. Some people

00:46:47.260 believe that the modern left is actually, they've betrayed liberalism. They're not the real liberals.

00:46:52.740 We conservatives are the real liberals. That's not my opinion. Libertarians believe that.

00:46:57.960 Classical liberals believe that. I do not believe that. Some people believe that leftism, progressivism,

00:47:04.280 socialism even, are natural conclusions of liberalism. Not even just the modern liberalism,

00:47:09.520 but going all the way back to those classical liberals, those enlightenment quote-unquote era

00:47:13.380 classical liberals. They think that it's not a betrayal of liberalism, but the natural conclusion

00:47:18.740 of it. I'm very much of that opinion. I think that the shades of difference between liberalism,

00:47:24.180 classical or modern, leftism, progressivism, even socialism and Marxism, I think the shades of

00:47:30.280 difference are minuscule because I think those are all rationalist ideologies that take the individual

00:47:36.820 to be the basic unit of society that upend the traditional moral order or deny the traditional

00:47:42.840 moral order. And I think they're just not really conservative at all. And they all kind of go in

00:47:47.320 different directions, but I think the real alternative, they're all different sides of the

00:47:50.780 same coin or I guess rubrics cube or something. I think the real alternative is the conservative

00:47:56.740 worldview that says the basic unit of society is the family, that says we shouldn't just overturn

00:48:00.900 all traditions or upend all of society, that we ought to do things that we have done,

00:48:05.220 and we ought to recognize the moral order. We ought to recognize that there is such a thing as the

00:48:09.000 good. We can know something about the good. Ultimately, we have obligations to the common

00:48:12.980 good and ultimately to our highest good who is God. That's my view. Okay, we got the member block of

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