The Michael Knowles Show - August 26, 2022


Ep. 1076 - FBI-book Suppressed The Hunter Biden Laptop


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On the heels of Mark Zuckerberg's revelation that the FBI asked him to censor a story about the Hunter Biden laptop, Michael Krieger takes a deep dive into why Big Tech censored a story that could have swung the 2020 election in favor of Donald Trump.

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00:00:00.000 Of all the chicanery and shenanigans that Democrats pulled during the 2020 election, 1.00
00:00:06.000 perhaps the most brazen and significant was Big Tech's decision to censor the Hunter Biden
00:00:12.580 laptop story. The censorship was outrageous and dangerous in and of itself, a group of
00:00:19.240 billionaire oligarchs deciding what could and could not be presented in the public square
00:00:24.420 before an election. But now the story has gotten even worse, thanks to Mark Zuckerberg's revelation
00:00:30.960 on the Joe Rogan podcast that he and Facebook and Big Tech only censored the story because the FBI
00:00:38.300 told him to. Basically, the background here is the FBI, I think, basically came to us,
00:00:45.240 some folks on our team. It was like, hey, just so you know, like you should be on high alert.
00:00:50.360 We thought there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. We have it on notice that
00:00:57.620 basically there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that. So just be vigilant.
00:01:06.300 So our protocol is different from Twitter's. What Twitter did is they said, you can't share this at
00:01:11.420 all. We didn't do that. The distribution on Facebook was decreased, but people were still
00:01:16.820 allowed to share it. So you could still share it. You could still consume it.
00:01:20.320 So when you say the distribution has decreased, how does that work?
00:01:24.180 Basically, the ranking in newsfeed was a little bit less. So fewer people saw it than would have
00:01:29.060 otherwise. So it definitely...
00:01:31.400 By what percentage?
00:01:32.620 I don't know off the top of my head, but it's meaningful. But we weren't sort of as black and
00:01:37.520 white about it as Twitter. We just kind of thought, hey, look, if the FBI, which I still view as a
00:01:43.480 legitimate institution in this country, it's a very professional law enforcement, they come to us
00:01:48.240 and tell us that we need to be on guard about something, then I want to take that seriously.
00:01:53.020 So Facebook censored the story, but actually only a little bit, but actually pretty significantly,
00:01:58.620 but actually Mark Zuckerberg doesn't remember how much. And it did so because the FBI told it to.
00:02:04.920 Little tough to follow the contradictions and the equivocations. But at the very least,
00:02:10.240 Zuckerberg is telling us that the FBI, the allegedly nonpartisan federal law enforcement
00:02:16.300 agency that had been illegally attacking Donald Trump since before he even became president,
00:02:23.260 interfered in the 2020 election to keep damaging information about the Biden family out of the
00:02:29.080 public square. Information so damaging that 17% of Biden voters in swing states, according to one
00:02:36.560 survey, said that they would not have voted for Biden had they known about the laptop before the
00:02:41.920 election, would have swung the election to Trump. The deep state pressured big tech to help elect 0.78
00:02:48.420 Democrats and kick a Republican president out of the White House. But remember, if you question our
00:02:54.980 oligarchs, you're a threat to democracy. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. 1.00
00:03:06.560 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Dolly Shortcake, who says,
00:03:12.560 I'm really pissed about this. I paid all my loans off for my bachelor's degree,
00:03:16.760 and we now have to pay for deadbeats who don't want to work or got a stupid degree. 1.00
00:03:21.300 I've had it with this administration, just terrible. I think that's resonating for a lot of people. 1.00
00:03:27.580 I think just as the libs think that current Hispanics who either were born in this country or
00:03:34.940 legally immigrated to this country, that they're really in favor of illegal immigration. And it
00:03:39.060 turns out they're not. You can just see it poll after poll. Hispanics, immigrants, and the descendants 0.99
00:03:45.320 of immigrants who are here in this country actually hate illegal immigration. Well, it's the same thing 1.00
00:03:50.880 here. They think that college graduates are going to love this giveaway of the free student loan
00:03:56.800 forgiveness. In fact, I think a lot of people who took out student loans and paid them off are going
00:04:01.880 to be much more resentful, actually, than just the regular old taxpayer who's going to have to fund
00:04:06.840 this. Because they're going to say, I did the right thing. Why are people who were perhaps
00:04:11.340 irresponsible or who were just friends with Democrats or who majored in something that wasn't
00:04:17.040 going to pay off later on, why are they getting a free ride when I did the right thing? It drives you
00:04:22.040 crazy. The Democrats, not just the Democrats, the libs. Because we're not just talking about the
00:04:29.720 political party. We're talking about the whole kind of liberal establishment, especially in the
00:04:33.400 bureaucracy, but through all the rest of society too. The libs reward their allies and punish their
00:04:42.180 enemies. That's how they do politics. And it is pretty much politics 101. It is pretty much the most
00:04:50.020 basic way of thinking about politics, going all the way back, not just to ancient Greece, but going back
00:04:55.940 to the days of the cavemen. You reward your friends and you punish your enemies. That's how they do
00:05:03.060 this. The way they do this is before the election, the FBI comes knocking on Facebook. They say, hey,
00:05:10.720 listen here, listen, listen, my boss is over there in Washington DC. They sure would appreciate it if,
00:05:17.100 look, there's going to be some information about Hunter Biden coming out. You understand? We don't want
00:05:21.560 that to come out. You understand what I'm saying? That would be very unfortunate if that came out.
00:05:26.160 So we're going to just, we're going to sweep that one under the rug, right? Right? There's a nice tech
00:05:31.360 company you got here. Sure would be a shame if something happened to it. Okay, we're good. We're
00:05:34.560 good. Okay, good. That's what they do. And what does Facebook do? First of all, Facebook is just full
00:05:39.700 of libs and it's part of the liberal establishment anyway. So they're probably more than happy to oblige.
00:05:44.220 But even if they weren't, they're feeling the force of the government, the permanent government,
00:05:49.160 the administrative bureaucracy, the deep state. And they're saying, okay, I don't want to get on
00:05:54.120 the wrong side of the FBI. Don't forget what Chuck Schumer said. He was in a way making fun
00:05:59.340 of Donald Trump, but in a way he was giving a warning to everybody. In a way, I think it was
00:06:02.540 quite sincere when he said, don't go against the intelligence community. They'll kill you nine ways
00:06:07.360 from Sunday. They could destroy your life so easily. Just don't do it. And that's what happened here. 1.00
00:06:14.320 That's what happened. That's the same sort of thing you're seeing on the student debt
00:06:18.260 forgiveness. There's not much of a principle at play here. It's just a political payoff.
00:06:23.920 The Democrats are paying off their friends and they're doing that in a very direct way.
00:06:30.020 And then in a less direct way, they're punishing their enemies. The people who don't go to college,
00:06:36.880 who are less likely to vote for Democrats, the people who are financially responsible and paid
00:06:41.120 off their student loans, who are less likely to vote for Democrats. Those guys are going to now
00:06:44.660 have to foot the bill for the people who are getting the free ride. Even among the staffers
00:06:49.560 of the White House, RealClearPolitics' Philip Wegman just reported that one in five White House
00:06:57.260 staffers currently has student debt. At least 30 senior White House officials have outstanding
00:07:03.340 student loan balances. This is according to financial disclosures representing one in five of the staffers
00:07:08.780 who are required to file the documents. And so Biden's giving a handout to his friends and he's
00:07:15.380 punishing his enemies. And maybe Republicans should learn a little lesson from that.
00:07:22.380 You know, Republicans, they're so eager to prove that they're really neutral and they're really
00:07:29.920 high-minded and they're really above politics. The conservatives are so eager to do that.
00:07:34.540 That's what the Never Trump movement was. The Never Trump movement was, listen, I don't support
00:07:39.380 all this tribalism. I don't support these party politics. I mean, you always hear the squishes in
00:07:46.100 almost every election. You'll have some moderate Republican who comes out and he says, look,
00:07:49.740 I'm a Republican, but I'm going to break with my party. Country before party, which is a meaningless
00:07:55.740 statement. You join a party because you think it'll help your country. You think it's the best thing for
00:07:59.880 your country? So country before party is a distinction without a difference. But they do
00:08:05.640 it because what they're really saying is, look, I'm not just going to help my friends and punish
00:08:10.960 my enemies. No, no, I'm above it all. Frankly, I'm fairer to my enemies than to my friends. That's
00:08:17.320 how high-minded it is. And that's how you lose. That's how you lose at politics. That's how the
00:08:21.220 libs take over the whole culture for the past 60 years. Maybe conservatives should learn a little bit 0.88
00:08:26.940 of a lesson from the libs. We shouldn't do things that are unjust. We shouldn't do things that are
00:08:31.140 immoral, which the libs often do. But I think we can engage in regular, normal politics where you
00:08:37.000 have alliances and you help out your constituents and you don't just constantly cave in to your
00:08:43.880 opponents. The libs are not messing around. Have you ever heard of swatting? Swatting not like when
00:08:49.880 you swat a fly, swatting like when you call a police department and you make a false claim
00:08:55.260 about a violent incident at the home of one of your opponents or enemies in the hopes that they
00:09:01.600 will send a SWAT team there with guns drawn to bust down the door and who knows what happens at that
00:09:10.020 point. You ever heard of that? Marjorie Taylor Greene has heard of that because the libs have 1.00
00:09:14.260 swatted her now twice. And this is not just Marjorie Taylor Greene claiming this. This has been
00:09:19.300 confirmed by the police. Marjorie Taylor Greene wakes up in the middle of the night because the
00:09:26.800 police are there with a major show of force because they get a call that there's a violent
00:09:33.700 incident. Who knows what the call contained? This has happened to my friend Tim Poole. Tim Poole has
00:09:38.660 been swatted now multiple times. Swatting is attempted murder. Guys, I don't think I'm being
00:09:45.720 hyperbolic here. You are calling this in. You're saying there are guns being fired. There is a major
00:09:51.040 violent incident so that the cops bust in the door in the middle of the night and start shooting.
00:09:56.320 Because what happens if I wake up in the middle of the night, someone busts down my door.
00:10:00.620 Maybe I reach for my gun. Maybe I assume naturally that there's a home invader there.
00:10:06.380 Maybe then you get into a provocative situation with the police. The only reason to do it
00:10:10.620 is to kill your enemies. I don't see why else. If you just want the doorbell to ring, 0.99
00:10:17.340 you can order them a pizza. If you want them to just get in trouble, I don't know. You can
00:10:25.400 I don't know what you could do. You could call in some lesser crime. You could say,
00:10:31.660 I saw them jaywalking. But when you call in the SWAT team, you are calling in a hit squad to kill 0.98
00:10:38.560 your enemies. That's how the libs are playing here. And it's not just that they've done it
00:10:43.080 to Marjorie Taylor Greene. It's not just that they've done it to Tim Poole. They've done it
00:10:46.200 to a number of people. You don't hear the same thing happening on the right. Furthermore,
00:10:52.400 we're now seeing federal law enforcement being used as a tool of the left. You're seeing with the FBI
00:10:56.880 censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story. You're seeing it with the FBI busting down the doors at
00:11:01.480 Mar-a-Lago. I think we got to get a little bit more serious about our politics here.
00:11:05.500 Certainly, SWATing should be classified as attempted murder and prosecuted as attempted
00:11:10.160 murder. And whoever does it should be thrown in the can for life. But I think we've got to wake up
00:11:16.780 a little bit and see the way our politics is actually working. And the right-wingers,
00:11:23.420 the squishes who insist that we just need to uphold the norms and traditions of the value-neutral
00:11:28.340 public square with all the institutions that are apolitical and all that doesn't exist.
00:11:33.180 And that hasn't existed for many years. And burying our heads in the sand and really wishing
00:11:38.560 that we could go back to a time in the past, which probably never existed in the first place,
00:11:43.460 when politics wasn't really politics. That's not going to help anything at all.
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00:13:22.700 code NOLSPODCAST. Speaking of murderers, John Fetterman, the socialist Democrat candidate for
00:13:30.860 Senate from Pennsylvania, is really awful. He's just really, everything about him is just bad. 0.84
00:13:38.100 And pretty much everything, he's probably one of the worst candidates out there right now that the
00:13:41.740 Libs are running. And somehow he keeps getting worse. John Fetterman was asked if there were one
00:13:48.080 thing that he could change in society, what would it be? His answer, he would let murderers out of
00:13:55.560 prison. If you had a magic wand and you could wave it and fix one thing, what would it be?
00:14:03.380 Life without parole in Pennsylvania. We could save billions in revenue long term. We could save
00:14:10.880 thousands of lives and not make anyone less safe. And also expunge as many permanent records of people
00:14:17.620 that have been living their best lives and have been paying well beyond when they should have for
00:14:23.400 a charge that they caught, you know, 10, 15, 20 years ago.
00:14:26.580 What's the, if you had a magic wand, it's not even if you had to deal in practical politics. If you had
00:14:33.860 a magic wand, what's the one thing you would change about society? Would you solve world hunger? No.
00:14:41.660 Would you cure childhood leukemia? I don't know. Would you, all the horrible diseases, all the good
00:14:48.120 things that happen to bad people? No. You would let murderers out of prison. So says John Fetterman.
00:14:56.580 Because he says, look, these guys who committed murder, some of them have been in prison for 10
00:15:00.860 years already. Come on, that's way, that's way past the amount of time that they've paid their debt
00:15:04.060 to society. This is as radical as it gets. I really, really don't want that guy to enter the
00:15:13.040 United States Senate. Unfortunately, the Republican candidate, Dr. Oz, is not running a very good campaign
00:15:17.920 right now. Hope they turn that around. Because this guy, we talk about how AOC is so radical. We talk
00:15:24.300 about how Raphael Warnock is so radical. They are. They're pretty radical compared to,
00:15:28.940 I don't know, even 10 years ago in American politics. This guy makes those people look
00:15:33.760 like Ronald Reagan. He's got just kind of a weird look to him. He's just something weird about the
00:15:38.440 eyes. And he's never held a job in his life. And he's been on his parents, forget his parents'
00:15:44.800 cell phone plan. He's been getting 50 G's a year from them to support his lifestyle. And he's just,
00:15:48.960 not good, not good. No bueno. Pretty weird stuff. Speaking of terrible crimes,
00:15:55.680 the Children's National Hospital in Washington, D.C. has just admitted to something that the
00:16:02.180 libs were telling us was a crazy right-wing conspiracy theory. And we're learning this
00:16:05.820 thanks to one of the great journalistic outlets out there, libs of TikTok. For a while now,
00:16:11.280 the conservatives have said, we've just been right about everything. We've said that if we allow
00:16:17.440 weird sexual revolution stuff, pretty soon they're going to be doing it on kids. 1.00
00:16:21.780 And the libs said, that's a slippery slope. And we said, yeah, maybe, but we're slipping down it,
00:16:27.220 so it's going to happen. Obviously, that did happen. We said if we tolerate the weird sex change,
00:16:33.220 gender surgery stuff, pretty soon they're going to be doing it on kids. We were told that's a crazy
00:16:36.980 conspiracy theory. Turns out that was true. Then it was reported just a couple of weeks ago that
00:16:41.700 there are hospitals who are performing transgender surgeries, like surgically removing the womb from 1.00
00:16:48.700 little girls. We were told that's crazy. It's a conspiracy theory. You're misinterpreting and
00:16:52.920 it's not true. Move along, move along. So libs of TikTok called up the Children's National Hospital
00:16:59.520 in Washington, D.C. and just asked them. They said, hey, do you perform hysterectomies on 16-year-old
00:17:05.800 girls and even younger? Here's what they said. Hi, I was calling because I'm looking for information
00:17:12.940 about the gender-affirming hysterectomies that you guys offer.
00:17:18.800 Am I in the right place? Okay. Yes. This is the clinic. Did you want to make an appointment?
00:17:27.420 So they would do it for that age? Yes. Okay, great. Is it a common procedure that you guys do for
00:17:39.060 that age? Yes. We have all different type of age groups that comes in for that. For the hysterectomy?
00:17:50.880 Yes, ma'am. Okay. Just out of curiosity, do you know, like, what's the youngest age you would do it on?
00:17:57.420 I'm not sure, but I have seen younger kids. And I'm not, you know, either, I'm not allowed to say
00:18:03.540 that, but I have seen younger kids, like, younger than your child. The gender-affirming hysterectomy 0.84
00:18:09.960 surgery? Yes. Okay. Okay. I really appreciate your help. Right from the horse's mouth. And you can't
00:18:19.320 even say, listening to that, oh, well, that receptionist, she didn't, she didn't understand 0.98
00:18:23.800 the question. No, the conversation was very, very clear. And the receptionist even knew that she
00:18:28.260 wasn't supposed to say what she was saying. She goes, you know, there's HIPAA laws, and, you know,
00:18:32.880 I probably shouldn't be admitting this. But she thought she was talking to a new customer. So she
00:18:36.540 was trying to entice the customer to come in, the customer being a pervert parent who was going to 0.96
00:18:41.720 rip her kid's womb out. And she says, yeah, no, we've had, we do this. We rip out the wombs of 16-year-old 0.99
00:18:48.100 girls to make them pretend that they're boys and get them on a lifelong regimen of expensive drugs 1.00
00:18:54.080 and mutilations. Yeah, yeah, we do that. Actually, we do it for kids who are younger. Actually, we do
00:18:58.120 it for kids who are a lot younger. Yeah. Yeah, that's what we do. All of which is to say,
00:19:04.320 there is no argument for supporting the libs in any way. There is no argument for voting for a
00:19:13.360 Democrat. There is no argument for never Trump. There is no argument for, for rewarding your
00:19:20.100 enemies and punishing your friends and your allies. There's no argument for that. If there ever was,
00:19:25.160 that's gone now. No principled argument, no dignified David Frenchy in response.
00:19:31.920 No Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney. Well, look, I think actually there's a lot we can work with these
00:19:36.980 Democrats on. There's not. They're ripping out the wombs of little young teenage girls. There's not. 1.00
00:19:42.280 And they already were supporting killing hundreds of thousands of babies a year. And they sick federal 0.99
00:19:46.680 law enforcement on you, on your enemies. And anybody who squishes to these people, let him be
00:19:53.620 anathema. Okay, I don't know how else to put it. There's, we're so past that. We're so past, oh, well,
00:20:03.160 you know, look, reasonable people can disagree on whether to rip the wombs out of little girls. 0.98
00:20:07.160 They can't. They can't. And the libs don't want to reconcile. The libs don't want to meet in the
00:20:11.880 middle. The libs don't want to concede anything. They want to sick the SWAT team and the FBI on you. 0.83
00:20:16.620 And look, hey, if you answer that door at two in the morning with your gun drawn and something bad
00:20:21.180 happens, oh, well, that's too bad. At least then we can take your kids and trans them. 1.00
00:20:26.620 Okay, that'd be really important. And then we'll have more political power, us libs. And then we can
00:20:30.720 do the most important thing if we had a magic wand in society, which would be to let all the murderers
00:20:34.440 out. Do you think there's any meeting in the middle with that kind of worldview? I don't.
00:20:44.200 I don't think so at all. They're not even really making arguments for it, by the way. They're not
00:20:48.160 making arguments for any of the things they're doing right now. They're not even making arguments
00:20:51.740 for the student debt relief. Okay, Corrine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary,
00:20:57.580 was just asked, hey, I know that you're giving this handout to your friends, and I know you're punishing
00:21:02.500 your enemies. But can you make any even attempt at a facade of a reasoned argument as to why
00:21:08.660 this is a good thing for society? Here's her answer.
00:21:12.760 The HEROES Act hinges on student debt cancellation being tied to the pandemic and that being a national
00:21:20.440 emergency. But the administration argued in court that the pandemic is over at the southern border
00:21:25.700 to lift Title 42. It's so over that the government's going to stop buying vaccines in the fall and
00:21:31.900 shift to the private sector. So how is this a national emergency? How's COVID a national
00:21:38.760 emergency when it comes to student debt? So it's a very good question, and I'm glad you asked it.
00:21:43.620 Look, we use the HEROES Act because there are going to be some people, when we lift the pause,
00:21:51.060 that's still going to suffer. They're still going to have a little bit of a hard time.
00:21:54.640 And so that's one of the reasons that we made this decision. Because as we're lifting up the pause,
00:22:03.880 yes, you know, some folks may, having not to pay for two years has been helpful to them,
00:22:09.500 and we're able to save, and we're able, are probably going to be able to pay those monthly
00:22:15.300 payments. But there's going to be some folks who are going to have a hard time.
00:22:18.780 Because of the economy? Because they're just in a different bracket, right? It's just because
00:22:25.520 they've probably had a hard time before. Okay, did you catch that at the end? At the beginning,
00:22:30.980 she said, we're using this act, the HEROES Act, which says that in times of national emergency and
00:22:36.860 really wars, the president can forgive debts. And so we're using that now, and we're saying the
00:22:42.180 emergency was COVID. And so then this reporter says, well, hold on, that's one, that doesn't
00:22:49.460 really count. And two, that's not happening right now. And three, how did that emergency stop these
00:22:55.300 kids from being able to, or these adults now from paying back their student debts?
00:22:59.240 And what does Karine Jean-Pierre say? She says, oh, no, you're right. It wasn't some emergency.
00:23:02.860 It wasn't COVID. It wasn't any of that. Yeah, they're just in a lower income bracket right now,
00:23:07.020 or they don't have enough wealth right now. And yeah, they were actually probably having
00:23:10.660 trouble long before COVID. So it's not an emergency. So it has nothing to do with the
00:23:15.300 HEROES Act. So there's no legal basis for this whatsoever. But they're going to do it anyway,
00:23:20.160 because they want to reward their friends and punish their enemies. Because they're going to
00:23:24.280 engage in politics 101, which the conservatives refuse to do. Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?
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00:25:05.400 speaking of the libs just whining and crying and instituting their own tyranny of will,
00:25:11.000 there is an event called the Podcast Movement. I had vaguely heard of it, but I don't really know
00:25:16.160 very much about it. It's some conference where podcasters go and have booths and talk to one another.
00:25:22.240 And since we here at The Daily Wire are one of the largest podcast companies in the world,
00:25:27.740 I think we're number six or number five or something like that, obviously we had a booth
00:25:31.920 at this event. And what do you know, the founding editor-in-chief of The Daily Wire,
00:25:40.300 first show on our network, Ben Shapiro, shows up to the podcast movement. Makes sense. One of the
00:25:46.300 most prominent podcasters in the world would show up to the podcast movement at The Daily Wire booth
00:25:51.000 because The Daily Wire is one of the biggest podcast companies. This, this was a really big
00:25:56.580 deal. The podcast movement tweeted out their heartfelt apology for allowing one of the most prominent
00:26:03.700 podcasters in the world to show up. Take a listen.
00:26:09.280 Ben Shapiro briefly visited the PM22 Expo. Though he was not registered or expected,
00:26:15.240 we take full responsibility for the harm done by his presence.
00:26:20.220 So do I get to get a picture?
00:26:22.540 Yeah, one, two, three.
00:26:24.460 God bless you.
00:26:25.340 Hey, thank you.
00:26:25.800 We agreed to sell The Daily Wire a first-time booth based on the company's large presence
00:26:30.460 in podcasting. The weight of that decision is now painfully clear.
00:26:37.520 All right, Ben. Pleasure to be here.
00:26:39.200 Hey, good to be here.
00:26:42.180 During event planning, the dangerous nature of the company's messaging was overlooked.
00:26:46.300 Those of you who called this unacceptable are right. Podcast movement has made mistakes.
00:26:57.800 The pain caused by this one will always stick with us.
00:27:02.580 Yeah, thanks for everything you do.
00:27:03.640 Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm excited about it.
00:27:05.900 That's great. Thank you so much for your support.
00:27:07.620 Thanks for your support.
00:27:08.520 Thanks for the next two days.
00:27:10.660 Thanks for the next two days.
00:27:10.680 Thanks for the next two days.
00:27:16.300 It's truly harrowing.
00:27:18.360 It's amazing that those people survived.
00:27:21.920 The podcast movement is begging for forgiveness.
00:27:25.520 They say, those of you who called it unacceptable are right. 0.73
00:27:27.620 In nine wonderful years growing and celebrating this medium, we've made mistakes.
00:27:30.920 The pain caused by this one will always stick with us.
00:27:35.640 Please, we take full responsibility.
00:27:39.060 Please, if you have any questions, we're here to talk.
00:27:41.520 I have questions.
00:27:43.280 And furthermore, I do not accept your apology.
00:27:47.080 I don't think that these tweets cover the irreparable harm done by Ben's appearance.
00:27:52.140 And I want monetary reparations for that.
00:27:55.520 That's what I want from the podcast movement.
00:27:57.580 The irony, of course, here about the podcast movement, which is some two-bit conference.
00:28:02.100 I don't even know where it is.
00:28:04.740 Of them attacking Ben and the Daily Wire is that we are the podcast movement.
00:28:11.140 We are.
00:28:11.860 Not you.
00:28:12.340 Not some two-bit conference.
00:28:13.280 It's us, the guys who are actually some of the biggest podcasters in the world.
00:28:18.100 Not just the Daily Wire.
00:28:19.260 I think, what are we, number five or number six on the charts?
00:28:21.340 But it's us.
00:28:21.920 It's Rogan, obviously.
00:28:23.900 There are a few other groups.
00:28:25.200 It's really not just us.
00:28:26.460 But it's a handful of us, okay?
00:28:30.800 We're the ones doing it.
00:28:31.900 And by the way, the big podcasters skew disproportionately to the right, or at least anti-leftist.
00:28:37.460 Joe Rogan's not on the right, but he's not a leftist, that's for sure.
00:28:41.000 However, this company obviously skews to the right.
00:28:45.660 The reason for that is that the people for years had been prevented from accessing conservative information because of the left-wing gatekeepers in the institutions of the media.
00:28:55.920 And then podcasting comes around, and podcasting is a pirate ship.
00:28:59.020 That's what Adam Carolla calls it.
00:29:00.080 Another guy who skews at least a little bit to the right, who's not a leftist, he was the pioneer of podcasting.
00:29:08.140 And the libs are furious about that.
00:29:09.960 They hate that the conservatives are able to get their message out there in a relatively freer platform.
00:29:15.140 So they're doing everything they can to shut it down.
00:29:17.760 And they make themselves look ridiculous because they're afraid of Ben Shapiro, who is a relatively moderate center-right voice, as mainstream as they possibly come in America.
00:29:26.540 The least intimidating person on earth, who's just a sort of very polite guy, who is standing around generously giving of his time to take photos and say hey to people and leave.
00:29:37.800 So, it's the way they make it sound.
00:29:40.440 It's as though the guy showed up with an Uzi or something like that.
00:29:44.060 But they can't make arguments.
00:29:45.340 Speaking of gathering people together, this is my favorite story of the week.
00:29:50.860 Shia LaBeouf has converted to Catholicism.
00:29:54.360 That alone, I love.
00:29:57.260 Shia LaBeouf, who's had some problems, who, like a lot of actors, has been kind of eccentric and explored lots of different things.
00:30:03.420 Shia LaBeouf has converted to Catholicism.
00:30:05.600 He was doing a movie about Padre Pio, who's a great Catholic saint.
00:30:10.100 And my favorite part is the reason why Shia LaBeouf converted to Catholicism.
00:30:18.200 The Holy Spirit would probably be reason number one.
00:30:20.780 Reason number two, because of the traditional Latin mass.
00:30:27.160 Latin mass affects me deeply.
00:30:29.720 Deeply.
00:30:30.400 How come?
00:30:30.900 Because it feels like they're not selling me a car.
00:30:33.480 And when I go to some mass with the guitars and stuff, and I'm from, you know, Santa Inez, right?
00:30:39.280 So that's where I was catechized.
00:30:41.120 And there's a lot of guitar playing.
00:30:42.500 And there's a lot of, like, what feels like they're trying to sell me on an idea.
00:30:47.480 I was always an agnostic, even when I was a Sam Harris, TED Talk, you know, Christopher Hitchens guy, which is who I was before I fell in.
00:30:55.240 But it, I always had a belief, but I never had, like, a connection.
00:31:02.800 Latin mass gave me something where I felt connected, which took me out of belief into connection.
00:31:08.200 Belief kept me, you know, I had belief because that's the rational, logical, it's not logical or rational to be atheist. 0.79
00:31:15.840 If you really go deep enough, you get to the Big Bang, and then you're screwed again.
00:31:19.380 You know, you have to account for it somehow, which puts you in a belief situation.
00:31:22.960 But too much of that logic and too much of that rationale takes me out of feeling, which takes me out of connection.
00:31:29.620 So he's describing it at the end in this kind of actor-y way, which is this immersive experience he's had at the traditional Latin mass.
00:31:37.300 But I also love that line at the beginning.
00:31:40.920 I love the Latin mass.
00:31:41.960 I'm drawn to the Latin mass.
00:31:43.360 Why is that?
00:31:44.520 Because I feel like they're not trying to sell me a car.
00:31:46.720 And it's so true.
00:31:47.540 The mass that existed for most of the last 2,000 years until 1970 when a bunch of boomer libs decided to destroy the liturgy, not just the boomers. 1.00
00:31:58.340 It was even the generation before. 0.60
00:32:00.180 When that happened, and then they instituted all the weird guitar churches and all that kind of stuff, it drove people away.
00:32:07.040 It drove tens of thousands of priests away.
00:32:09.060 It drove countless laity away because they feel like all of a sudden they're just being sold something.
00:32:16.640 You know, the priest is no longer facing the altar and we're all facing it together.
00:32:19.800 But the priest is facing you and he's doing a little soft shoe and he's telling yuckety-yuck jokes.
00:32:23.520 And it makes it all about you.
00:32:25.120 But you go to church to get out of everything being all about you.
00:32:29.360 Everything's all about you for your whole week probably.
00:32:31.340 You go to church to experience something different outside of yourself, outside of the world.
00:32:38.960 You go there for an experience of heaven.
00:32:40.720 And that's what Shia LaBeouf is describing.
00:32:42.160 He says, I feel like I'm let in on a secret, like I'm part of something, like I'm really witnessing a miracle take place.
00:32:48.240 And it's not just a show to entertain me or to please me.
00:32:53.680 I love it.
00:32:54.260 Like, probably it's the liberal kind of church reformers who are going to be the hardest hit.
00:33:00.740 Because it turns out the youths don't want squishiness and electric guitars.
00:33:04.340 They want truth.
00:33:05.640 They want orthodoxy.
00:33:06.640 They want smells and bells and a glimpse of heaven.
00:33:08.900 That's what they want.
00:33:10.000 I love it.
00:33:10.820 This is wonderful stuff.
00:33:12.080 Welcome to the church, Shia LaBeouf.
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00:34:02.800 Without further ado, let's get to the voicemail bag.
00:34:06.880 Good morning, Michael Knolls.
00:34:09.940 Two questions for you.
00:34:11.620 One quick and one a little less so.
00:34:14.020 First, does the Daily Wire have a tip hotline for newsworthy tips?
00:34:17.400 And second, congratulations on your new baby boy.
00:34:21.580 My wife and I just had our first child a month ago or so.
00:34:24.760 Question is, where do you go for your vaccine info?
00:34:27.480 We have already been denied service at a pediatrician for not giving our newborn the Hep B shot.
00:34:32.360 I said she doesn't live in a brothel, which I'm sure didn't help. 1.00
00:34:36.320 But who can you trust? 0.92
00:34:38.300 I'm not anti-vax, but 72 shots before our daughter is four seems ridiculous.
00:34:43.020 Does the Daily Wire have a resource page we can turn to?
00:34:45.520 Thank you so much for all you do.
00:34:48.200 And may God bless you and your family.
00:34:51.220 Really great question.
00:34:52.340 I had the exact same experience that you did.
00:34:54.860 I'm in the hospital, certainly with my first kid.
00:34:56.760 And they tried it again with my second kid.
00:34:58.400 They say, okay, we're going to give your kid a thousand shots.
00:35:00.860 I said, I don't think so.
00:35:02.720 I don't really know.
00:35:03.340 What shots are you giving my kid? 0.99
00:35:05.500 So, well, this, that, and the other thing.
00:35:07.000 And obviously, we've got to give your kid the shot for Hepatitis B.
00:35:10.980 I said, hold up.
00:35:13.360 Why are you doing that?
00:35:14.360 Do you think that my kid is going to go shoot up heroin on Skid Row? 0.80
00:35:18.180 Do you think my kid is about to go find some hookers, you know, before he nurses and goes 0.93
00:35:24.560 into his bassinet? 0.99
00:35:25.520 Why are you?
00:35:26.100 And they had no answer.
00:35:27.860 The closest thing to an answer they had was, well, sometimes the husband cheats on the wife,
00:35:34.380 you know, before birth and doesn't tell her.
00:35:36.840 And then the wife gets Hepatitis B and she doesn't know it and then passes it to the 0.78
00:35:40.380 kid during birth.
00:35:42.680 Oh, thank you.
00:35:44.040 Thank you.
00:35:44.520 That's really, I assure you, none of that happened.
00:35:48.940 So, no, you're not going to give my kid that shot.
00:35:51.340 And really what it is, I think, is the public health people knowing, okay, we've got these
00:35:56.180 people here.
00:35:56.760 We want to pump them full of everything that we possibly can because on a macro scale,
00:36:01.240 maybe that will slow down the spread of certain viruses and also because there's regulatory
00:36:05.640 capture by the big pharma agencies, which want to, big pharma companies that want to
00:36:09.020 sell shots.
00:36:09.860 So, okay, because of all of that, we're going to pump your kid full of a bunch of stuff.
00:36:13.220 You say, you say the thing that all the conservatives have to say now, which is, look, I'm not an
00:36:17.520 anti-vaxxer.
00:36:19.400 But don't you think it's kind of weird that like the COVID vaccines don't really do the thing
00:36:22.520 they were supposed to do?
00:36:23.500 And look, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but it is kind of weird how like there's a vaccine
00:36:27.520 court that, you know, gives out a compensation for vaccine injuries that was specially established
00:36:32.740 by Congress.
00:36:33.320 And look, I'm not an anti-vaxxer, but I'm open to certain vaccine shots.
00:36:38.280 But no, I'm fairly skeptical of them now.
00:36:41.460 I'm fairly skeptical of them because I'm fairly skeptical of the public health establishment
00:36:44.860 because they've just lied to us for two and a half years.
00:36:47.040 And if they lied to us about COVID and they lied to us about the COVID shots and they lied
00:36:50.180 to us about the masks and they, what else have they lied to us about?
00:36:54.040 Or even if it hasn't been an intentional lie, what else have they gotten wrong?
00:36:58.000 When I was a kid, I got my vaccines, most of them at least.
00:37:03.000 But the numbers that are being given to little babies now are so much higher.
00:37:08.380 And I think, are those really necessary?
00:37:10.220 Why would I engage in any medical intervention that is not necessary?
00:37:15.360 Especially if the potential benefit is very small and there is risk to any medical intervention.
00:37:21.300 So I wouldn't feel bad about your skepticism on a lot of vaccines.
00:37:25.200 I don't have one resource page.
00:37:26.920 It's mostly just my wife kind of Googles things. 1.00
00:37:29.640 But you can look those things up.
00:37:31.460 And some sources are more credible than others.
00:37:33.940 Usually peer-reviewed scientific studies are more credible than others.
00:37:37.540 But you can find stuff all over the place.
00:37:39.120 And I think you should not be ashamed of your skepticism.
00:37:41.340 Next question.
00:37:42.900 Hey, Michael.
00:37:43.640 Love the show.
00:37:44.440 So recently I've had the weirdest phenomena, which is that I will be walking my dog and my baby, my baby son, who is super cute.
00:37:56.900 And people will comment on how cute the dog is and, like, not even acknowledge my son.
00:38:05.300 And it's just, like, a really weird thing.
00:38:08.500 And I've noticed there are, like, two types of people.
00:38:10.740 There are people who acknowledge your dog and there are people who acknowledge your human child.
00:38:16.400 And this also kind of goes hand in hand with me noticing recently that there are a lot of people who are walking their dogs in strollers, like, as though it's a child that they're pushing around.
00:38:27.900 Just wonder if this is, like, a larger trend or maybe just something in my area.
00:38:32.620 I'm not sure.
00:38:33.440 Thanks.
00:38:33.780 It's a major trend.
00:38:36.400 Dogs are the new kids.
00:38:37.740 It's very sad.
00:38:39.580 It should not be the case.
00:38:41.140 You should not treat your dog as your kid.
00:38:43.500 You can love your dog.
00:38:44.340 You should love your dog as your dog.
00:38:46.380 I'm not saying you should be mean to your dog or not get a dog or not have affection for your dog.
00:38:50.080 No, you love your dog.
00:38:51.260 Your dog, in a way, has a soul.
00:38:53.340 It's not a rational soul like a human being has, but a dog has a soul proper to its nature.
00:38:57.680 But a dog is not a kid.
00:38:59.820 And if you treat the dog as a kid, you're only going to end up unhappy.
00:39:05.400 You should, if you can and so desire, you should have a kid.
00:39:09.500 If you can't, a lot of people can't have kids, and you really want a kid, you should consider adopting a kid.
00:39:15.240 And if you don't want any of those things, but you want a dog, you can have a dog.
00:39:20.300 But treat the dog like a dog.
00:39:22.180 Don't put the dog in a little stroller.
00:39:23.840 I have friends of mine who do this.
00:39:25.640 It's really, really sad.
00:39:27.000 You know something has gone wrong in society where we just, we coddle the little puppies,
00:39:33.540 and we sort of stop on the street and say, well, how cute that little puppy is.
00:39:37.220 And then we ignore the kids when we don't kill them in the first place.
00:39:40.900 Yeah, something's going really, really wrong there. 0.99
00:39:42.520 Treat the dog like a dog.
00:39:43.380 Treat the baby like a baby.
00:39:44.340 Next question.
00:39:46.000 Michael, I think you know a question I'm going to ask you because I bet you've been bombarded with this question.
00:39:51.400 Why did you have to bring the Little League into politics the way you did?
00:39:56.080 I mean, when I was 12 years old, if I hit somebody in the head with a baseball, I would be traumatized.
00:40:02.540 I'd just be thinking the worst.
00:40:03.880 I'd be terrified that that kid was injured.
00:40:06.420 You'd have to go to the hospital.
00:40:07.440 I mean, you are shaking and terrified.
00:40:09.220 You're a kid.
00:40:09.820 And for another kid to come up, the team, like from the other team to come up and maybe give me a hug or let me know it was okay.
00:40:16.800 As a kid where you're immature and you're still learning about life, I'm down for it.
00:40:22.900 I just want to know, do you want to take back anything you said about that incident?
00:40:28.920 Or do you stand by everything you said?
00:40:30.600 Even though I know that what you said, the principle about being tough applies to politics for sure.
00:40:35.880 Just want to give you an opportunity to either defend yourself or to explain yourself a little bit more.
00:40:40.820 I'm very curious.
00:40:42.160 All right.
00:40:42.520 Thanks.
00:40:42.880 Have a good one.
00:40:43.320 I stand by everything I said.
00:40:46.420 I haven't been bombarded on that.
00:40:48.300 For those who missed it a week or two ago on the show, I played this clip that had gone viral of the Little League World Series.
00:40:54.040 And the pitcher kid beamed the batter in the head.
00:40:57.240 And the kid went down.
00:40:58.140 But he was okay.
00:40:58.900 You know, it knocked his helmet a little.
00:41:00.060 But it still bounced off the helmet.
00:41:02.280 And then the kid takes his first base.
00:41:04.480 And then the first baseman walks over to the pitcher and gives him a hug.
00:41:08.340 And I said, man, I bet these are such good kids.
00:41:10.680 They're such good kids.
00:41:11.840 Because it's wonderful.
00:41:13.820 That's a great act of friendship to do that.
00:41:16.320 I hope these kids go out and get an ice cream cone after the game.
00:41:19.220 But the game is not the place for that.
00:41:22.460 There's a time for every purpose under heaven.
00:41:24.540 A time for war. 0.96
00:41:25.320 A time for peace.
00:41:26.600 A time to embrace.
00:41:28.140 A time to refrain from embracing.
00:41:29.600 And the game is not the place for that.
00:41:31.200 And so you're making the point, yeah, sure, we've got to be tough in politics.
00:41:34.160 But we shouldn't, come on, we shouldn't be tough on the Little League field.
00:41:36.980 No, actually, that's the point of Little League.
00:41:38.980 That's the point of introducing kids to sports.
00:41:41.520 That's the point of education, is to model the right behavior for them and teach them the appropriate times for behavior.
00:41:49.160 And so, yeah, if the pitcher had knocked the kid down and he were taken out on a stretcher, maybe that's a different circumstance.
00:41:55.320 But he knocked the kid down.
00:41:56.460 Kid got right up, dusted himself off, took first base.
00:41:59.760 The pitcher was still a little shaken up about it.
00:42:01.720 Okay.
00:42:03.680 But the purpose of these sports is to teach kids how to work through these kinds of things.
00:42:10.020 And how to maintain their composure.
00:42:13.280 And how to follow the rules.
00:42:16.060 And how to play the game.
00:42:17.840 And how to be competitive when you're supposed to be competitive.
00:42:20.840 And how to be sportsmanly when the game is over.
00:42:26.280 And the problem here is not that the kid who got beamed with the baseball was nice to the other kid.
00:42:31.780 The problem was the timing.
00:42:33.000 There's a time and a place for everything.
00:42:34.460 And that was not the place for it.
00:42:35.340 So, no.
00:42:36.160 Stand by it.
00:42:36.620 I wouldn't punish the kids for it.
00:42:38.600 You know.
00:42:39.300 You might say, oh, that was very nice of you, Johnny.
00:42:41.040 But it's actually not the place for that.
00:42:43.340 The place for that is at the ice cream parlor or the soda fountain after the game.
00:42:47.180 Next question.
00:42:47.640 Hey, Michael.
00:42:49.480 I'm a big fan of the show and everything going on at Daily Wire.
00:42:53.240 I watched your interview with Yuram Hazoni and the book Conservatism, A Rediscovery.
00:42:58.900 I decided to pick it up and read it and thought it was really insightful.
00:43:02.520 But I was wondering where you fall on the dichotomy that he set up between the hyper-rationalist view from the Enlightenment
00:43:09.220 and what Yuram posited as the more conservative historical empiricist view.
00:43:14.340 And I'd never really heard of historical empiricism.
00:43:18.100 So, that's kind of why I'm asking you about this.
00:43:21.060 Do you think that our ability to reason and know all these universal truths is all that we need?
00:43:27.300 I think our liberal elites would agree with that.
00:43:29.240 But I think maybe even a lot of people on the right might before hearing about historical empiricism.
00:43:35.500 Or would you agree with Yuram that the conservative perspective is more based on tradition and knowledge that's inherited through the ages?
00:43:42.400 I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
00:43:44.640 Thanks, Michael.
00:43:45.440 I'd love to get to meet you one day.
00:43:46.980 You inspire me a lot.
00:43:48.840 Oh, thank you very much.
00:43:49.540 It's very kind.
00:43:51.560 I think you can reconcile the two with Christianity.
00:43:55.120 I think Christianity uniquely reconciles the two.
00:43:58.340 In part because the divine logic of the universe, Jesus Christ, the second person of the Holy Trinity, is incarnate and becomes man.
00:44:08.920 And the gospel is a journalistic account of things that actually happened in time and place.
00:44:15.820 So, right there, you're reconciling not just rationalism, you're reconciling reason himself with historical empiricism.
00:44:24.780 But you refer to the Enlightenment as this kind of beginning of rationalism in politics.
00:44:29.340 And that's fair depending on how you want to use that word rationalism.
00:44:33.300 But, yes, the Enlightenment was wrong about pretty much everything.
00:44:36.460 The Enlightenment should not be called the Enlightenment.
00:44:38.740 It didn't enlighten very much.
00:44:40.580 The Enlightenment, if anything, represents a move away from Christian civilization. 0.92
00:44:45.460 But to try to preserve the good stuff from Christian civilization while taking God out of it. 0.99
00:44:51.600 And the early Enlightenment thinkers were not so overt in their atheism and secularism.
00:44:55.500 But the logical conclusion of the systems that they devised, I think, is atheism and secularism.
00:45:00.900 Now, there is a pre-Enlightenment kind of rationalism.
00:45:03.960 You think of the scholastics in the Middle Ages.
00:45:05.940 You think of St. Thomas Aquinas would be a great example of that.
00:45:08.920 And Thomas Aquinas is right, again, about pretty much everything.
00:45:13.260 But that's different because that's a rationalism that is centered around God.
00:45:18.640 Much different than a rationalism centered around a vacuum in which God should be.
00:45:26.180 So, yeah, if you're going to try to reason from a world without God, you're going to go off the deep end.
00:45:32.060 If you reason from a world with God and the natural law, then you're going to be a little bit better off.
00:45:38.140 And all of that is conditioned with a little bit of epistemological humility, with a little bit of a kind of recognition that we're not going to recreate the world anew through our own unfettered reason.
00:45:51.320 That our brains are not just the simplest way to do this.
00:45:55.160 But actually, there is a wisdom of the ages that inherited wisdom, prejudice in the really proper meaning of that term, is good.
00:46:04.760 And we should defer a little bit to the wisdom of the ages.
00:46:08.140 And tradition and have a stable, good, flourishing society where the best stuff has survived.
00:46:13.400 Those, I think, are very easily reconciled.
00:46:15.960 But the kind of rationalism of a world without God, that's going to drive you off a deep end.
00:46:23.380 All right, before we get to the member block, I do want to get to one question that was written in the regular old mailbag, not just the voice mailbag.
00:46:30.800 This question from Rich.
00:46:32.360 Michael, you discuss and call out rhinos frequently.
00:46:35.700 Is there such a thing as a dino?
00:46:37.140 No, thanks, Rich.
00:46:39.800 No.
00:46:41.100 No, there's no such thing as a dino.
00:46:44.560 The reason there's no such thing as a dino is there's...
00:46:48.200 The reason there are rhinos is because there is an incentive for the squishy Republicans to suck up to the liberal establishment because they get all sorts of goodies from it.
00:46:58.820 So you get the Republicans there, but the pressure of the media and academia and the corporations and the bureaucracy and all that pressure gets to them and then they squish.
00:47:07.820 There's no similar incentive or pressure on the Democrats to move to the right.
00:47:13.060 So there's really no such thing as a dino.
00:47:16.000 You get one or two somewhat moderate Democrats left in America, Joe Manchin and sort of Kyrsten Sinema.
00:47:22.800 That's it, though.
00:47:23.880 Whereas on the right, you could name...
00:47:25.560 I mean, we could be here all day.
00:47:26.500 We could name hundreds of them.
00:47:27.980 Maybe we will in our member block.
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