Ep. 1078 - The MAGA Experience
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On today's show, Michael Kinsley and Alex Blumberg talk about what Joe Rogan's appearance on CNN's Morning Joe had to do with the midterms and why you should vote for the Republican Party. Plus, Good Ranchers is offering a chance to win 30 minutes with me on September 30th.
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Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is giving great news to the Republicans. We've seen a lot of good signs
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in recent months that they're going to do well in the midterm elections. The generic congressional
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ballot, the misery index, the simple fact that it's the first midterm of a new president,
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all of that points to good news for the party out of power. Yesterday, the GOP received
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a better omen than all of those others combined. Joe Rogan told his audience that he wants them to
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vote Republican. No one who is alive today had ever experienced a true pandemic.
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And I'm hoping that now that this is over, people are going to, you know, recognize that some serious
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errors were made and not repeat those. That's the best you can get out of it. So what do you tell
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those people? Vote Republican. That's what a lot of them are going to do anyway. Yeah? Yeah. Oh,
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yeah. I mean, more than a million people transferred over to the Republican party,
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I think in 2021 alone. Find out what that number is. But, you know, you look at guys like Ron DeSantis
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who kept Florida open and had some pretty reasonable policies in terms of like what to do about COVID.
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And, you know, he mapped it out on television. He was, you know, widely criticized for this.
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Where he was saying, like, we need to protect our elders. We need to, you know, make sure that
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medical care is available for those people and everyone else. You should be able to do whatever
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you want to do and protect your freedom. Those 55 seconds from Joe Rogan are more important
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than any poli-sci nerd analysis. More important than 10,000 pages of data from every four-eyed
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pollster in America because Joe Rogan is the generic voter. Joe Rogan speaks to and for more people
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than just about anyone else in America. As goes Joe Rogan, so goes the country in many ways.
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After 18 months of record high inflation, of foreign policy disaster, of mass illegal migration,
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of a collapse in law and order, and a creeping sense that our institutions of government are
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being rigged and wielded by Democrats for their own personal gain. Whether it's the FBI pressuring
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Facebook to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, or whether it's the DOJ busting through Donald
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Trump's door at Mar-a-Lago. The American people right now are signaling in every way they can
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that they intend to vote the bums out. And yet, only one thing is certain. The more that the people
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express support for Republicans in November, the more the establishment will smear them all
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as a threat to democracy. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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thing is very, very important. Now, you might say, well, no, Michael, Joe Rogan doesn't pick the
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president. For goodness sakes, the man was a Bernie bro, and then he kind of liked Trump, and then,
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I don't know, he has views that sometimes don't totally jive with one another. Sure, that's true,
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just like the generic voter. Most Americans are not spending every waking moment doing all sorts of
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political analysis with their nose in spreadsheets and everything like that. Most Americans are doing
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other things. Joe Rogan is a good example of this. Joe Rogan seems to care a lot more about MMA and the
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Haitian oregano than he does about the nitty and gritty of politics. But like all Americans, like
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the generic voter, he has political preferences and political views, and he's not particularly
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firmly rooted in those political views. They change a little bit with changing circumstances.
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And there's something about that that's very, very healthy. And Joe Rogan right now is not mincing
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words at all. He's saying, what would I do right now? I would vote Republican. Of course, of course,
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the libs are destroying the economy. They're stomping on a lot of our traditional rights and freedoms
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and way of life. And they're failing on pretty much every issue. You can see that in all of the
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polls. And they're compromising our institutions of government. And they're raiding homes. They're
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doing all sorts of nonsense. And so Rogan's looking at that. He's saying, yeah, no more of that. Let's
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do the other guy. Let's go back to the other guys. And Donald Trump is not being quiet about this
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either. Trump just tweeted out. He didn't tweet out, actually, because he's still not allowed on
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Twitter because the Silicon Valley oligarchs booted the then sitting duly elected president of the
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United States out of the public square. Another reason why people, I think, are turning against
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the libs. And Trump tweets out, now it comes out conclusively that the FBI buried the Hunter
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Biden laptop story before the election, knowing that if they didn't, Trump would have easily won
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the 2020 presidential election. This is massive fraud and election interference at a level never
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before seen in our country. Remedy, declare the rightful winner or, and this would be the minimal
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solution, declare the 2020 election irreparably compromised, and a new election should be held
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immediately. That would be great. I would really enjoy that. Would that it were so simple. That's
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not going to happen. They're not going to declare the 2020 election null and void. But it would be
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great. I'd love it if they did. I agree. I think the election was rigged to the hilt. I think there
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were all sorts of shenanigans in a number of cases. It was overtly illegal and unconstitutional.
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So yeah, I'm with Trump on this. You're going to hear, you're going to hear in coming weeks and
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months and moving into 2024, a lot of Republicans turn on Trump. And they're going to make some
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observations. They're going to say, oh, Trump, he talks too much. He's a distraction. Oh, Trump,
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we got to move on from Trump. A lot of the people who are going to be saying that didn't like Trump
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in the first place, and they really hated him in 2016. And so you're going to see a rehashing of a lot
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of the fights over Trump from 2016. Now, do I think this is particularly helpful,
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these kinds of tweets and truth social posts or whatever? I don't know. I mean, in a way,
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it kind of riles up the base. What he's telling them is not, hey, we're going to have a redo of
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the 2020 election before 2024. What he's telling them is, hey, this was wrong. This was fraud.
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What they perpetrated on us was very, very wrong, and you should be angry about it. And to that,
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I agree. I think that's true. I think it was wrong to extend election day to election month.
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I think it was wrong to push the widespread mail-in ballots. I think it was wrong to lock
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the whole country down for COVID, which, unfortunately, Donald Trump was a part of.
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But it was certainly wrong to extend that through into the elections. Yeah, I think that's true.
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You're not going to hear me turn on Trump, okay? Yeah. Is Ron DeSantis a great potential
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candidate for president? Absolutely. I think he'd make a great president, probably.
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Is Ted Cruz a great candidate for president? I certainly think he is. I do a podcast with the
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guy. I think he's an excellent conservative leader. I think he'd make a great president.
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Are there other Republicans even who could do a great job? Yeah, yeah, I think so.
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But I'm not going to make that an excuse to go against Trump. I think Trump is the greatest
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Republican president in my lifetime. I think the guy got Roe v. Wade overruled. And if the guy wants
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to run for president, more power to him. I will support the Republican nominee in 2024.
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Unless the Republican nominee is Liz Cheney or somebody, I will support the Republican nominee.
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But I'm not going to whine and cry and say, Trump shouldn't run in 2024. Absolutely,
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he should run if he wants to. He's still got a lot of support. And if the man wants to run,
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and the man can beat out the other guys in the primary, then that means he's the man for the
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nomination. That means that he won the process that it takes to become the nominee.
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And I'm totally fine with that. I would gleefully vote for Donald Trump a third time.
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Speaking of voting, there's a lot of oppression in the country. Not just the oppression of the
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conservatives at the hands of the libs who changed the election rules. No, no. I'm talking about the
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oppression of celebrities and music stars at the Video Music Awards. I'm talking about the oppression
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of Lizzo, who as she's accepting her award, she reminds everyone they need to go out and vote
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to stop all the oppression. I don't know what music video for good means, but I do know what your vote
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means. And that's a lot. Your vote means everything to me. It means everything to making a change in
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this country. So remember, when you're voting for your favorite artists, vote to change some of these
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laws that are oppressing us. Now, of course, Lizzo is probably the single least oppressed person on
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earth. Maybe she's oppressed by our decadent culture, but she's certainly not oppressed by
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any of the things that ordinarily would be considered oppressive. She has as many political
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rights as she wants. She has the abundance of material goods. She can do whatever she pleases.
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That's why Lizzo is not being detailed here. She's not saying what laws we should vote against. She's not
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even saying what candidates to vote against. She's not saying what is oppressing her.
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She's just saying, yeah, it's oppressive. You got to go vote. It's just the kind of
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most ridiculous conclusion of Puff Daddy's campaign from 2004, vote or die. Remember,
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he had that campaign. He said, vote or die, because they were trying to kick George Bush out of office.
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They say, I don't think those are the only two options. I don't think a consequence of not voting
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will be that we all die. I doubt that. It's just so vague. It's just these people being used
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as parrots for the entrenched powers, for the liberal establishment. A woman wearing a very
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fancy, expensive dress, holding a gold statue saying, I'm so oppressed. Be sure to go out and
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vote against the bad guys for the good guys because of the oppression. And it's not really persuasive
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anymore. If it ever was persuasive, which I don't think it was. Don't forget, Puff Daddy's
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voter die thing did not work. But if it ever was persuasive, I just think advances in technology
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so that now we're not just beholden to the main news networks. We can actually do research ourselves.
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That really dealt a tough blow to the establishment. Changes in power. The fact now that these libs who
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used to be on the fringes of power, who used to be able to somewhat credibly claim that they were
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fighting the man, now that they just dominate the entire establishment, the fact that whenever you
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see the resistance and BLM and the pride flag, it's always being pushed by gazillion dollar
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corporations and institutions of the government. That, I think, has changed it. And the fact that
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these guys have lost the common sense, the fact that the libs push transing the kids and killing all
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the babies and opening up all of our borders and destroying our currency and locking us all down over the
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Wu flu. And the fact that they won't even close down gay bathhouses to stop monkeypox. I mean,
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just on issue after issue after issue, the libs have so lost the common sense that they lose the
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generic voter, okay? And they lose Joe Rogan. And they lose the people who represent the kind of
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open-minded middle in American politics. And no speeches from Lizzo are going to change that.
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Speaking of weird hangups about eating, video went viral yesterday. On the streets of New York,
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an animal rights activist versus a regular guy eating a kebab. And this video, I think this
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sums up the difference between the left and the right in America.
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You're disgusting. What do you think you are? You're just a coward. You're a f***ing coward.
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This lady's right in his face, and there's the guy.
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You're going to die on your own without f***ing coward.
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The guy's just standing there, sunglasses on, eating his kebab.
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You and your small d***, and your f***ing way of killing animals, and it feels good.
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You hold the blood on your face. You hold the blood on your hands.
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He's not saying anything. He's just eating that kebab.
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This is it. This is what politics looks like right now to the generic voter.
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The libs are the screaming, shrieking, hyena animal rights activists losing their minds
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because a man is eating a street kebab on the sidewalk in New York.
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And then the conservatives look like just the guy in the t-shirt with the sunglasses
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trying to enjoy his kebab quietly, not really all that provocative, just eating his lunch.
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It didn't always look like that, but that's what it looks like right now.
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When the libs wail and shriek and cry about the importance of having five-year-olds watch drag queen
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shows, they look like the shrieking animal rights lady. When the libs shriek and cry and scream about
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the importance of flooding the country with illegal aliens, they look like the crazy animal rights lady.
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When the libs wear 17 different masks and have 152 injections of the Fauci algae,
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they look like the crazy animal rights lady. And then all the rest of us are here. And what do we say?
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Most conservatives right now, they're not articulating some super ethereal academic
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political ideology. They're just saying, hey, maybe don't chop the kids' genitals off.
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Maybe don't. Or if you're going to wait a little while at least, right?
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Huh? Maybe let's not kill all the kids. It's not in the Constitution. And it's probably wrong,
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don't you think? Hey, I don't know. Maybe the fifth shot of the experimental mRNA drug,
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maybe I don't need that to prevent the mild cough. They seem really, really reasonable and moderate
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right now, which the right wing does not always seem, but it does right now. That's why they're winning
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over people like Joe Rogan. That's why they're winning over the middle of the road voter.
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That's why Liz Cheney has a little bit of a career right now. She's not taking any votes away from the
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right, from the Republicans. She's taking votes away from the Democrats. Because she is effectively a
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Democrat and she's attacking Trump, but she's prying off a decent percentage of the moderate
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Democrats. That's why the polls are showing if she were to run for president in 2024,
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she would single-handedly swing the election to Trump against Biden.
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Speaking of eating, this is a story I've been waiting to get to for a while.
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And CNN has given me the opportunity. Headline from CNN,
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Mealworm Seasoning. Scientists explore creepy, crawly flavoring to satisfy meat cravings.
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Would you like some meaty, savory mealworm powder seasoning with your food?
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It's a question you might soon be hearing at the dinner table, or at least that's the hope of
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the scientists at South Korea's Wonkwang University. That's right. The research that
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they're working on is a response to the dietary demands of a growing global population and the
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looming climate crisis. And the argument is that because of the sun monster and because people are
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having babies, we all have to eat bugs. There has been a really weird push from the libs to make us
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all eat bugs. There was that video that came out a couple of months ago that of all the celebrities
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eating bugs, there are articles that pop up in the mainstream media constantly talking about how we
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need to eat crickets. Now we need to eat mealworms. We have to do it. Why? First of all, when we talk
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about the growing population, the population in the West is dying. The United States has had a dying
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population for 50 years. So our population is not growing. That's why we have to flood the country
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with illegal aliens and legal immigrants, for that matter, to artificially prop our economy up.
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So the population growth is not a big problem. And the idea that the sun monster is forcing us to
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eat bugs is insane. If anything, a little extra heat, a little extra sunshine is going to improve
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conditions for ranching and farming. So what's this all about? What this is all about is not
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the sun monster or any of the doomsday predictions that the libs always have global warming, global
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cooling, the population bomb. Remember that? They're worried about population. Now, 50 years ago in 1970,
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the libs predicted in a very famous book by Paul Ehrlich called The Population Bomb that the world
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population within the ensuing, the following 10 years would grow and it would cause mass famine.
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And this was unavoidable. And that's why we needed forced sterilization and contraception.
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And that didn't happen. Today, the world population has doubled. Malnutrition is at an all-time low.
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So that was all just fake news. But whatever it is, the doomsday predictions of the global warming and
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the global cooling and the population bomb and all the rest of it, and the ozone layer and acid rain and
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all the other things, they don't ever destroy the world. We're now several years into AOC's prediction
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that the world's going to end in 10 years. I think we're going to be fine. We're now well past Prince
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Charles's prediction that the world was going to end a couple of years ago. What is this about?
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The reason they want us to eat bugs is because it's gross. The reason they want us to eat bugs
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is the same reason that Catholics don't eat. It's not the same reason, but it's the same principle
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as to why Catholics don't eat meat on Fridays. It's the same principle why people of all religious
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backgrounds fast sometimes or eat food that can be bitter or unpleasant at some times for the purposes
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of spiritual discipline. The reason that they want us to eat bugs is because of how yucky they are,
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because it breaks a taboo. It's not that we need to eat the bugs to save the planet, and as a
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consequence of that, it's going to break our taboos. The libs want us to break the taboos because the
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libs don't like Western culture, and they don't like our traditional ways of life, and they don't
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like our traditional religion, and they want us to take part in their new weirdo culture that's based
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on their weirdo new-agey environmentalist religion. And so to be inducted into that and to train in a
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spiritual discipline for that, they want us to eat the bugs. There is zero reason economically,
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ecologically, no reason in the West, especially in America, that we need to eat the bugs.
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They just want us to do it so that we're in the cult with them. The bugs are much more a symbol
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than they are a source of protein. Elon Musk just made a great observation about this. Elon Musk,
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who is a big supporter of renewable electric energy, obviously he makes a lot of money on electric cars,
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Elon Musk, who believes in global warming and climate change, during a recent energy conference
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in Norway, Musk pointed out, quote, some additional exploration of oil and gas resources is warranted
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at this time. So unlike a lot of the other environmentalist libs, he's saying, no, no,
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we're not just going to get off of gas and oil. He says, realistically, I think we need to use oil and
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gas in the short term because otherwise civilization will crumble. One of the biggest challenges the world
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has ever faced is the transition to sustainable energy and to a sustainable economy. This will take some
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decades to complete. Great observation. And it reminds us why the libs are erecting all those
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stupid windmills that kill the birds and don't really produce any energy. Green energy doesn't
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really work. Okay. When you look at the efficiency, when you look at the energy output, it is absolutely
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nothing compared to oil and gas and certainly compared to nuclear power. If the libs were really
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just interested in generating abundant, cheap, sustainable energy, they would build nuclear power plants.
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And yet the libs are not doing that. They're vehemently opposed to that. If the libs wanted
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cheap, abundant energy that contrary to popular belief is not going to run out anytime soon,
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probably anytime at all, they would use fossil fuels. But that's not what they want. What the libs
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are really after is making us kind of sacrifice, making us feel the pinch, making us go through a kind
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of spiritual discipline, just like eating the bugs. They want us to turn off our energy and to stop
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traveling as far and to stop doing as much and to stop using gas and to not even consider doing
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nuclear energy because it hurts. When they build those windmills, they're not building a source of
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sustainable energy. They're just building a religious icon. It's just the modern version of an ancient
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Egyptian obelisk with a weird little spinny thing on top. That's what it's about. The primary function
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of the windmills and all of the other monuments to environmentalism is as a symbol, is as a monument
00:23:50.260
to the new kind of cult, the new kind of religion. While we used to build big crosses, we used to build
00:23:55.920
statues of Christ the Redeemer. While we used to build, even outside of Christianity, we used to build
00:24:01.100
ziggurats and pyramids and giant weird obelisks. Now we build these monuments to the new gods of
00:24:07.660
environmentalism. It's just a weird, creepy cult, and it drives people just as nuts as the animal
00:24:14.260
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00:24:19.160
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slash Knowles. Speaking of unnecessary pain and suffering, there is a weird kind of contradiction
00:25:45.140
in U.S. policy right now. In order for a foreigner to get into the United States, not for an American
00:25:52.200
to get back into the United States, but for a foreigner to get into the United States on an airplane,
00:25:56.680
they need to show proof of vaccination. That they have received the Fauci-Auchi against COVID-19.
00:26:04.640
However, in order for a Guatemalan peasant to get into the United States,
00:26:09.640
he just has to cross the Rio Grande. And he's not going to be checked for COVID. And he's not
00:26:13.160
going to be stopped at the border. And he's not only going to be ushered in, they're probably going
00:26:16.640
to put him on an airplane and ship him somewhere into the middle of the country if Greg Abbott doesn't
00:26:20.340
get to him first and ship him to Washington, D.C. What's up with that? Why is it the case
00:26:26.800
that visitors to the United States and legal immigrants to the United States have to have
00:26:32.280
the COVID vaccine? And if they don't, they're a threat and a danger to public health. But the
00:26:37.060
millions of illegal aliens pouring across our southern border, they don't pose any risk at all.
00:26:42.240
Don't worry. No tests, no shots. Let them write in. That's what Peter Doocy asked yesterday of the
00:26:48.040
White House Press Secretary, Kareem Jean-Pierre, during the press briefing.
00:26:52.320
Somebody unvaccinated comes over on a plane. You say that's not okay. Somebody walks into Texas
00:26:58.960
or Arizona unvaccinated, they're allowed to stay. Why? But that's not how it works. Like,
00:27:04.640
we actually, no. I know that that's not what you guys want to happen, but that is what is happening.
00:27:08.760
But that's not, it's not like somebody walks over and that's not, that's not how.
00:27:15.420
Thousands of people are walking in a day. Some of them turn themselves over. Some of them are
00:27:21.060
caught. Tens of thousands a week are not. That is what is happening.
00:27:25.460
So let me just lay out what we have done under this administration. We have installed new border
00:27:31.120
technology and set up joint protocols with Mexico and Guatemala.
00:27:35.520
I love that her first reaction is, that's not what's happening. No. Because she doesn't know her
00:27:41.540
own policies. She, in the same press briefing, she stumbled on the status of Title 42, which is one
00:27:46.700
of the Trump era border policies that Joe Biden got rid of. She didn't even know the status of that
00:27:51.920
anymore. And she didn't know that people who fly into the country have to have the vaccines while the
00:27:56.900
people who cross the border illegally don't. And so Peter Doocy is there not merely asking questions
00:28:00.960
for her to clarify. He is clarifying it for her. He's saying, no, no, no, no, this is what's
00:28:05.820
happening. That's not what's happening, Peter. No, Karina, literally that is what's happening.
00:28:11.140
Oh, okay. Here are my talking points. Here are all of my talking points. And what it speaks to
00:28:19.500
is something that is really irritating the generic voter, namely the fact that we have a two-tier system
00:28:25.360
of justice in America, that there are two different sets of rules. You get the privileged people,
00:28:31.260
and then you get the people who get punished. That's it. Privilege and punishment. And I think
00:28:37.800
your generic voter, such as he is, whatever he thinks about immigration, whatever he thinks about
00:28:43.840
COVID, whatever he thinks about the vaccines or Dr. Fauci or any of the rest of them, he's going to
00:28:48.620
look at that and say, well, that's not fair. That's not fair that the guys who break our laws across
00:28:54.840
the border, they get to come in without the vaccine. But the businessmen and the tourists
00:29:00.300
and the legal immigrants don't. Same issue with the student loans. In principle, I don't think that
00:29:08.120
the government has absolutely no right whatsoever to forgive student loans. I think it's a stupid
00:29:14.300
policy. I don't think they should forgive the student loans. But the government can do that.
00:29:17.860
That's the sort of thing a government can do, certainly if they follow the right legislative channels.
00:29:22.780
Sure, you might make an argument that it's really important for the future of America,
00:29:27.760
for the common good, for national security, for human flourishing, to pay off people's student loan
00:29:36.020
debt. Because that will encourage more people to go to college. And it's more important to pay that
00:29:39.700
off than, I don't know, to pay off farm loans or to pay off small business loans. Again, I don't think
00:29:44.060
that's true. But I could at least see how you could make that argument within the political order.
00:29:50.700
But that political, even if that political argument did hold water, it doesn't work on
00:29:58.060
the campaign trail in the public square to the generic voter. I think the generic voter is going
00:30:02.800
to look at that and say, that's not fair. That's not fair. That one group gets special privileges when
00:30:09.740
their votes get bought and the other group gets punished. That's not fair. And I don't like that.
00:30:15.500
And this is coming up right now because the tennis player, Novak Djokovic, withdrew from the U.S. Open
00:30:20.580
over the vaccine requirement. And this is another important way to appeal to generic voters,
00:30:27.080
is talk about normal things. Don't talk about abstract political philosophy. Talk about sports.
00:30:32.000
Talk about the U.S. Open. Talk about things in the popular culture.
00:30:35.100
And so, especially, even if you don't give a damn about the vaccine requirements and illegal
00:30:40.520
immigration, you look at that and you say, look, it's ridiculous that this guy, Novak Djokovic,
00:30:44.400
who's a very serious athlete, he's obviously very healthy, he doesn't need the vaccine,
00:30:50.920
is being kept away from this big tournament. That's ridiculous. And the party that's keeping
00:30:55.900
him away, they've lost the plot. They've lost the common sense. And the party that's encouraging
00:30:59.560
to come in, I'm more with those guys. Speaking of illegal things, speaking of criminals,
00:31:06.560
the Wisconsin Democrat candidate for Senate, Mandela Barnes, it just keeps getting more and
00:31:12.680
more radical. We talked about him a little bit yesterday. He's really, really out there. Well,
00:31:17.460
now there's a new video of him that has surfaced describing that the way that he would really
00:31:22.800
reform our political system is he would correct the great injustice that prisoners, inmates are not
00:31:32.180
allowed to vote. We're not talking about people who get to make decisions. We're talking about
00:31:37.600
incarcerated individuals who don't have a right to vote, which is unfortunate itself in another
00:31:42.620
conversation. That's the new word, by the way. New political correctness just dropped. It's
00:31:48.040
incarcerated individuals. Excuse me. Someone needs to go call up Charles Manson. As a member,
00:31:54.840
as a representative of the incarcerated individuals community, let's get Jeffrey Dahmer out here.
00:32:00.720
As the spokesman for the incarcerated individuals, no, they're criminals. They're inmates. They haven't
00:32:07.500
even paid their debt to society yet. And they're not even allowed to vote. Right. They're not allowed
00:32:13.000
to vote because they broke the law and they are in the process of paying back that debt. And so
00:32:19.240
the very reason that they are in prison is because they attacked justice. They attacked our political
00:32:27.460
order. So no, certainly not while they were paying that debt back. And in most sane societies,
00:32:33.680
including afterward, you don't just get your full rights to participate in the political order again.
00:32:38.680
That undermines the political order. I never, I never want to hear the Dems talk about rule of
00:32:45.240
law again. I never bought it. It was always ridiculous. It really began in earnest after
00:32:51.500
January 6th, but they were talking about it all throughout the Trump administration.
00:32:55.240
They said, oh no, the horn hat guy danced around the Capitol. This is a threat to the rule of law.
00:33:01.660
Guys, you, you, you all spent eight months burning the country down during BLM.
00:33:08.940
Your elected leaders bailed out the rioters. I don't, I think, I think that was a greater threat
00:33:14.640
to the rule of law than the horn hat guy. Well, no, but the Donald Trump had a phone call with Ukraine.
00:33:22.140
It's a threat to the rule of law. I don't, how is that a threat to the rule of law?
00:33:26.140
The Biden family actually peddled American influence on Ukraine while Biden was the
00:33:31.940
point man on Ukraine and got over $50,000 a month in bribes for it. That, no, that wasn't a threat.
00:33:39.220
It's just, it's all just so disingenuous. It's so preposterous. And the fact that now the Democrats
00:33:44.420
are actually the party of let all the criminals out of prison, I think ends any claim that they
00:33:50.140
could possibly make about defending the rule of law. They never want to defend the rule of law.
00:33:54.620
What they want to do is, is destroy the rule of law and increase tyranny around the country.
00:34:00.200
And they do it for a political reason. It's not just because they're like the Joker and they want
00:34:03.220
to watch the world burn. The reason they want to do that is because it affords them an opportunity
00:34:07.580
then to crack down. And when they crack down, they can take more power and that further entrenches them
00:34:12.660
where they want to be. Speaking of the rule of law, got to give Bill Maher credit. I am not one of
00:34:18.900
those conservatives that is constantly trying to give credit to the moderates and the libertarians and the
00:34:23.440
squishes and the, you know, he's one of the classical smart liberals. I think that conservatives have a
00:34:29.720
lot of big disagreements, even with the classical liberals. But Bill Maher just made a really good
00:34:33.700
point. He was on his show and he said, look, I'm, I'm pro abortion, but you guys got to cut it out
00:34:39.440
with your stupid comments and your stupid slogans about if you're, you know, if you're pro life,
00:34:45.080
just don't get an abortion because that doesn't make any sense.
00:34:48.000
I'm more pro choice than you could imagine. Um, I don't think life is always precious. Most people
00:34:54.740
don't think that what I'm saying is you shouldn't say to the other side, you people hate women. They
00:35:00.100
don't hate women. They just think it's murder. And if you think it's murder, then you can't go,
00:35:05.600
well, except for people with a vagina, they can commit murder. I don't think it's murder,
00:35:09.360
but they legitimately do. Thank you. Thank you, Bill. I appreciate it. Bill Maher might be the last
00:35:15.960
honest pro abortion person on the left. Naomi Wolf made a similar point. She actually went even a
00:35:22.000
little bit further in the nineties. Uh, she was then much more left-leaning feminist author and
00:35:27.380
Naomi Wolf said, look, we got to admit that the baby is a baby and the baby's alive and we legal
00:35:32.280
abortion. We should have it, but we just have to admit that the woman is killing the baby in his full
00:35:36.280
humanity. Okay. You have, if you want to defend abortion, that's what you have to do. And I was
00:35:41.460
just on a TV show, uh, a few weeks ago with, uh, a liberal Brian Tyler Cohen, and he used these,
00:35:48.440
these slogans. And I just thought it's so frivolous as I pointed out on the show. He says,
00:35:53.580
if you don't want an abortion, just don't get an abortion. It's not your business. It's not your
00:35:57.240
choice. It's not your, it's not your right. And you just think, buddy, you're not even,
00:36:02.280
maybe you support abortion, but at least engage with the actual topic at hand.
00:36:09.320
My claim is that abortion is morally equivalent to murder because the baby is a baby.
00:36:16.140
And so you have, you have to, if that's the claim, if that's the center point of the, of the issue,
00:36:21.240
then you've got to at least in some way engage with it. And you can argue, you can try to argue
00:36:26.040
that the baby's not a baby. That's not going to work. You can try to argue that the baby's not alive.
00:36:29.660
That's not going to work. And so the only thing you're left with is what Bill Maher finally comes
00:36:33.320
down to, which is he says, look, I don't really care. I don't, I don't mind it. I think we should
00:36:37.500
be able to kill these things. But, but if you're pro-life, that's not what you believe. And so you've
00:36:42.020
got to be consistent. You've got to get rid of these dumb slogans in large part because these dumb
00:36:47.360
slogans are not really persuasive anymore. You know, the corporate media not only control what they
00:36:55.760
want you to know, but their agenda means the news is presented in a biased way.
00:37:01.700
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Some people are not able to see past the tired old slogans. One of those people
00:37:34.680
would be Adam Kinzinger, the nominal Republican who just got booted out of Congress because he's
00:37:41.400
a big squish lib who spends all of his time sucking up to Democrats. So Adam Kinzinger goes on a Democrat
00:37:47.040
show to go suck up to another Democrat, Chuck Todd, on Meet the Press. And Adam Kinzinger announced that
00:37:51.800
he would be dedicating himself and all of his vast resources and all of his half dozen followers and
00:37:57.680
supporters to campaigning against Republicans, even for far left Democrats, because the Republicans are
00:38:05.120
a threat to democracy. Liz Cheney said that in some cases she may have to help a Democrat win
00:38:13.940
against sort of an anti-democracy Republican. Do you feel that's what you're going to be doing
00:38:18.580
over the next couple of years yourself? Yes. Yeah. I mean, look, the biggest issue,
00:38:24.520
not everybody agrees with me, certainly in my party and even Democrats that like to say things
00:38:28.760
like, well, but you're still a conservative. Yeah, I'm a conservative. But the bottom line is
00:38:33.580
the biggest threat right now to our country is democracy. And if you have Republicans that are
00:38:38.680
running against even left-wing Democrats that believe in democracy and believe in voting,
00:38:43.720
that person should be elected over somebody who basically would overthrow the will of the people
00:38:48.680
and ultimately destroy this country. This country cannot survive outside of democracy.
00:38:53.500
It will turn into a power struggle between groups of different races, of different ethnicities,
00:38:58.180
of different religions, because the thing that holds us together is this belief that we can
00:39:02.180
self-govern. Take that away. This country is a mess. And so Republicans that are for that have no
00:39:07.840
place in office. I don't care what their policy position on taxes are.
00:39:11.000
So pretty much everything Adam Kinzinger said there is wrong. He did have this funny line. It
00:39:17.340
was a Freudian slip where he said, the greatest threat to our country right now is democracy,
00:39:20.880
which I think a lot of the Democrats and the squishy fake Republicans would agree with.
00:39:28.060
That's why they're trying to prevent Trump from appearing on a ballot because they fear
00:39:31.000
democracy. They don't want people to vote for him. That's why they're trying to delegitimize
00:39:35.120
half the country and say that they're semi-fascists and to kick them out of the public square
00:39:40.640
and stop them from having their voices heard. Because of the Democrats and the cucks, for lack
00:39:46.920
of a better word, the court jester conservatives who suck up to the Democrats, these guys are
00:39:54.200
terrified of democracy. Now, the rest of what Adam Kinzinger said is just ridiculous. Adam Kinzinger says
00:40:02.060
that the country can't survive outside of democracy. First of all, the country is not a pure democracy.
00:40:07.240
The founding fathers wrote at length, and the framers of the Constitution wrote at length
00:40:11.840
about the fears of a pure democracy because pure democracy would devolve into mob rule.
00:40:16.980
And ironically, what they said would happen as a result of that is what Adam Kinzinger says would
00:40:21.420
happen without pure democracy. Adam Kinzinger says without pure democracy, then America will just
00:40:26.740
delve down into factions and tribes who attack each other on race and religion and all the rest of it.
00:40:33.160
What the founding fathers believed and what the framers of the Constitution believed is the
00:40:36.380
opposite. They said if we have just a pure democracy, then you're going to have the mob
00:40:40.660
devolve down into factions and tribes and warring groups that just attack each other over their
00:40:45.300
interests and not in reasoned discourse. That's why the American regime is a fairly mixed regime,
00:40:50.400
at least at the founding. It's got an executive. It's got a kind of monarchical element to it.
00:40:55.080
It's got an aristocratic element to it, certainly in the U.S. Senate and states' rights. And then it's got
00:41:00.800
a democratic element to it, a very heavy democratic element as well. So there are a lot of things
00:41:05.920
going on in the American system of government, some of which have been eroded away and none of
00:41:12.600
which Adam Kinzinger understands because he's just caught up in these stupid headlines. He sounds like
00:41:17.600
Lizzo. There's no difference. He's Congressman Lizzo. We need oppression. There's oppression we need to
00:41:22.820
vote against. And I'm a conservative. Because of why? Because he says, he actually says the point
00:41:29.380
that we always joke about on this show, which is that just because you want to cut taxes,
00:41:35.780
that doesn't make you a conservative. In many cases, it just makes you a greedy Democrat.
00:41:40.280
And Adam Kinzinger goes, look, I'm a conservative, okay? I love cutting taxes. But just because someone
00:41:45.480
wants to cut taxes with me, I might vote against them. And do what? And do what? Kinzinger says he's
00:41:50.080
going to vote for people who want to chop off your kids' genitals, who want to kill hundreds of
00:41:53.880
thousands of babies per year, who want to censor anyone to the right of Hillary Clinton, who want
00:41:59.940
to flood the country with illegal aliens, all because what? All to stop the mean orange man
00:42:04.920
who the people support. The mean orange man who got himself elected president in 2016. At least once,
00:42:11.900
at least one time, he did that. The attacks on Republicans are really, really ramping up.
00:42:17.000
There is a liberal columnist named Brandon Friedman, who is now saying that when Republicans
00:42:24.020
complain about taxes, about that, even when Republicans tailor their criticisms just to taxes,
00:42:30.980
even that is evidence that they're evil and racist and insurrectionist, and they want to
00:42:37.740
overthrow the country. I'm not joking. This guy, Brandon Friedman, tweets out,
00:42:42.020
this was in response to Ted Cruz suggesting that we abolish the IRS. This is something that
00:42:47.980
Republicans have campaigned on for a long time. Friedman says, Republicans don't just hate the
00:42:53.080
IRS because it pays for things like highways and social security. There's history here.
00:42:58.940
They hate what it represents. The IRS was created in 1862 specifically to fund the Civil War,
00:43:06.100
to end slavery and to burn white supremacy to the ground. Abolish the IRS may sound like an innocuous
00:43:15.780
anti-tax message, but it's literally, literally, not figuratively, literally a call to defund the US
00:43:23.840
military. The same military that crushed secessionists the first time. It's fundamentally
00:43:31.000
an anti-government message. The insurrection continues. Don't forget, just want to remind you,
00:43:40.920
insurrection, treason, these are crimes punishable by death. And the libs are just casually,
00:43:47.120
cavalierly accusing half of the country, all of us, you and me, of a crime, of a capital offense,
00:43:53.880
if we even want to lower taxes a little bit. That's where we are. Seems like a threat to
00:44:02.220
democracy to me. Also, his history is a little bit screwy here. It is true that something like
00:44:09.100
the IRS was established in the Civil War to raise money to fight the war. But the IRS really begins
00:44:14.620
in earnest in 1913 in the progressive era. And so no, when you say we want to cut taxes or abolish
00:44:21.940
the IRS, you're not saying that you want to undo the Civil War or you want to destroy the government
00:44:26.180
or anything like that at all. You're saying you want to abolish the IRS.
00:44:31.280
What does this tell you, though? What this tells you is, one, the libs are way more radical than
00:44:35.960
even a lot of conservatives recognize. Two, it tells you that the libs are far more anti-democracy
00:44:41.640
than a lot of conservatives even recognize. But three, it tells you that race, race and civil
00:44:49.300
rights, that is the narrative in American politics. Every political fight will in some way be twisted
00:44:59.700
or distorted to seem like it in some way relates to race or civil rights. All the weird sex stuff that
00:45:07.500
you've seen now with the transgender stuff and the gay rights movement and all the rest of it,
00:45:12.620
all the language of that was the language of civil rights. It was the language of the 1960s black
00:45:18.200
rights movement. We're the new civil rights movement. They'll even call themselves that.
00:45:23.840
It's all about marriage equality, just like you had interracial marriage equality. That's what
00:45:27.980
you're going to have, gay marriage equality. Now, of course, the gay stuff has nothing to do with
00:45:31.300
black people. And frankly, black people disproportionately disapprove of all the gay
00:45:35.260
sex stuff. It doesn't matter. Everything has to tie back to race and civil rights in America.
00:45:42.000
Cutting taxes, abolishing the IRS. If you want to abolish the IRS, you might as well put a bullet
00:45:47.100
through Dr. King yourself. What? What the hell are you talking about? That has absolutely nothing to
00:45:53.360
do with race. We want to give tax cuts to black people too. What are you talking about? It's because
00:45:58.940
that is the dominant narrative. Now, it gets a little awkward that all the political narratives
00:46:06.060
in America have to tie back to race and civil rights because the Associated Press just published
00:46:10.720
yesterday what it considers to be the most important story about the Federal Reserve Bank. The Federal
00:46:15.540
Reserve is tasked with tackling inflation, obviously not going so well right now.
00:46:21.620
But because no one cares about numbers or economics or the common good or the health of the country,
00:46:25.420
all anyone wants to talk about is race. The AEP decided to point out that the Fed is tackling
00:46:31.300
inflation with its most diverse leadership ever. They're saying the Fed's boardroom leadership has
00:46:41.080
become its most diverse ever. There are more female, black, and openly gay officials contributing to the
00:46:45.380
central bank's interest rate decisions than at any time in its 109-year history. Many are also far
00:46:51.040
less wealthy than the officials they've replaced. And I read this headline and I thought, is David Duke
00:46:56.980
running the AP now? This is, hold on, you're telling me, you're telling me that inflation right now
00:47:03.300
is worse than ever. And also, the people in charge of inflation are disproportionately minorities
00:47:11.000
and poor people. I don't, what are, are you trying to tell me that we should only have rich white guys
00:47:15.440
run the Fed? Is that, that is, that is clearly the insinuation of this article. Then cool it with
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the racism-associated press, but they don't even see it because they're just so now used to like
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automatons, like robots, just churning out for every single issue, including interest rates that,
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historic, first ever black, trans, gay, woman, poor, minority, cis, trans, whatever. And they don't
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even realize that what they're saying is undercutting much of their own arguments. Not, not a really good
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look. Not really good look at all. Now, we have a lot more to this show. Speaking of insurrections,
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speaking of the kind of crazy, shrieking people pulling their hair out versus the relatively kind
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of normal, average, generic voter. The rest of the show is continuing now. We've got a really great
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