Ep. 1089 - Diversity Is Not Martha’s Vineyard's Strength
Summary
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has sent the entire American left into a tizzy, a now days-long national meltdown. How did he do it? He flew 50 of the 2 million illegal aliens per year that Democrats invite into this country.
Transcript
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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has sent the entire American left into a tizzy,
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a now days-long national meltdown. How did he do it? He approached 50 of the 2 million
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illegal aliens per year that Democrats invite into this country. He gave 50 of them, 5-0,
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airplane tickets to Martha's Vineyard. The fact that Fox News and not the Department
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of Homeland Security, the city, or local NGOs were alerted about a plan to leave migrants,
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including children, on the side of a busy D.C. street makes clear that this is just a cruel,
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premeditated political stunt. This is what they are doing. And a couple more things. The migrants,
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including children, who arrived in Martha's Vineyard were misled about where they were being
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taken and what would be provided when they arrived is also deeply alarming. The children
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Governor Abbott abandoned in Martha's Vineyard, the children that Governor DeSantis abandoned
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as well deserve better. They deserve better than being left on the streets of D.C. or being left
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in Martha's Vineyard. They deserve a lot better than that. Yeah, these people deserve better than
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to be left on the streets of Washington, D.C. or Martha's Vineyard. They deserve to be left on the
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streets of El Paso, right? Isn't that so much better? She also keeps saying it's the children,
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it's the children. It's adults. It's adult people who have come to America, flocking. Some children
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come to America, too. Democrats have invited millions and millions of people per year.
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And it's good, right? It's good to leave them there, right there on the border. It's just bad
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to leave them in Martha's Vineyard. I don't mean to disparage El Paso. I like Texas as much as the
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next guy. But I don't see very many prominent Democrats, wealthy liberal elites buying property
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on the border. Do you? I don't see many wealthy liberals vacationing in El Paso or Del Rio.
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I see them all flocking to Martha's Vineyard, which they boast is a sanctuary for illegal aliens.
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So great. That's a win-win, right? The illegal aliens come in and Texas says to Florida, Arizona,
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they say we're not a sanctuary. So okay, send them up to some of the most desirable property in the
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world, which says it is a sanctuary. Great, right? Apparently not. The liberal journalist,
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Soledad O'Brien, summed up the opposition. Basically, human trafficking, she tweeted,
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cheered on by people who call themselves Christians. It's disgusting.
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But if Republicans bringing 50 illegal aliens to Martha's Vineyard constitutes human trafficking,
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what do you call it when Democrats bring 2 million illegal aliens per year into border states?
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And then, by the way, what do you call it when Democrats do exactly the same thing that DeSantis
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did, except in regular, consistent, much larger numbers? We've got the headlines right here.
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If the problem is that DeSantis is flying illegal aliens around the country, just 50 of them,
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what about this headline? Biden sent 70 secret night flights of migrants from border to Florida.
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That's from the Washington Examiner. What about this headline?
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Biden administration resumes migrant flights to suburban New York report. That's in Fox News.
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Okay, you might say, well, those are, well, the Examiner's not right-wing, but you know, okay,
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Fox News, that's a sort of vaguely right-wing website. What about NBC News? I got NBC News right
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here. Biden administration again flying migrants who cross border in one place to another before
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expelling them. Okay, what about this NBC headline? Amid border surge, Biden administration plans to send
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migrants to cities deeper inside U.S., starting with L.A., say, internal documents.
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Now, why is it that when Republicans do, at a very, very small, minuscule level, exactly the same
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thing Democrats have done at a huge level, that's human trafficking? In a way, I guess it is human
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trafficking. In a way, Democrats, for coming up on 60 years now, have trafficked tens of millions of
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illegal aliens into America, exposing them, by the way, to all manner of horrific violence on the
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journey and violating America's most basic laws in the process. Then, when Democrats feel like they've
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got enough illegals in border states, they fly the migrants to other parts of the country where they
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think that they'll be more politically useful. And then, all the while, it's lauded as virtuous and
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compassionate and as American as apple pie. And then, the moment Republicans send even a few dozen
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of those very same migrants to the neighborhoods of wealthy Democrats, all of a sudden, it's a crime
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against humanity. Beach season is over. There are now lots of multi-million dollar mansions owned by
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open borders Democrats all over Martha's Vineyard. There are ample, opulent accommodations just
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waiting to be occupied by people to whom the owners of those homes promised sanctuary, back when they
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thought it was impossible that the migrants would actually show up for it. I, for one, say it's time
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to open up the doors of those wealthy Democrats' homes to all that diversity and strength. Show those
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selfish border state Republicans what true compassion looks like. And Governor DeSantis keeps sending those
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lucky illegal aliens up to the vineyard for a luxury vacation the Democrats will never forget. I'm Michael
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Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Big Daddy Scoops, who says, Trump, go down and
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Not in my backyard. That is the Democrats' immigration policy. Oh, yeah, open up that
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border, as long as it's down in El Paso, as long as it's down in Del Rio, as long as they're going
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to Florida, as long as the Biden administration can fly the migrants to wherever they're politically
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useful. Maybe, look, maybe they'll end up in some blue cities, only some small number of them. All
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right, we'll tolerate that, I guess. But they sure as hell ain't coming to Martha's Vineyard. Oh, no.
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50 migrants? 50? Oh, my gosh. Think of the property values, though. Oh, could you imagine?
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And then there might be a line, you know, at the local brunch spot. No, no, no. We need to build a big,
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beautiful wall around Martha's Vineyard and keep those migrants out. We just have to send them to
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border states. The head of the Winter Home Shelter, Lisa Belcastro, she's coordinator there,
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she just came out and summed up, I think, the opinion of Martha's Vineyard.
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What are the most difficult challenges right now? The difficult challenges are
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we have, at some point in time, they have to move to somewhere else, right? We cannot,
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we don't have the services to take care of 50 immigrants. And we certainly don't have housing.
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We're in a housing crisis as we are on this island. And so we don't, we can't house everyone
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here that lives here and works here. We don't have housing for 50 more people.
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That's tough. Sounds like you're gonna have to build some more housing.
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Sounds like you don't, oh, you don't have the services set up for, well, you, I guess you better,
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better get them, huh? I mean, the federal government spends untold amounts of money,
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not only to service illegal immigration, but to actually encourage illegal immigration. So better
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send some of that money to Martha's Vineyard. 50 people, 50. It's nothing. That's so few people.
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That's not a drop of an iota of a fraction of a, of even a slight percentage point of the illegal
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immigration that border states get. So you better figure it out, guys. Oh, we just don't have room.
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What are you talking about? Martha's Vineyard is empty right now. People leave Martha's Vineyard
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after Labor Day. Consider the homes that are completely empty right now. I bet you any home,
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almost any home on Martha's Vineyard could have, that is empty right now, that is owned by some
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wealthy liberal elite could house all of the migrants that Ron DeSantis sent up there. They just won't do it.
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Because they would much rather have red state voters, they would much rather have Republicans
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in Texas deal with the consequences of illegal immigration than in any way, even slightly crack
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open the doors to their gazillion dollar mansions. Barack Obama alone could house every single
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migrant that has been sent to Martha's Vineyard. Barack Obama has a $12 million mansion on Martha's
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Vineyard. It's almost 7,000 square feet. It's got seven bedrooms, but even that, okay, so seven
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bedrooms, that alone could probably almost house all of the illegal immigrants to say nothing of
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the living rooms and the sitting rooms and the, but Barack Obama's got 30 acres. This guy has so
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much land. He's got a separate barn. You could put up a temporary shelter there. You got 30 acres. You
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could put up many temporary shelters. Every migrant could get his own temporary mansion.
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And he should do it, by the way. If Barack Obama wanted a real political masterstroke here,
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he would open up his home. He's got the best security in the world. He doesn't need to worry
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about that. He's not even there. He could open up his home, allow the 50 migrants in. He would look
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like an absolute hero. It would be such a masterstroke. But he won't do it. None of these people will do it
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because they don't want the dirty, filthy, hoi polloi migrants in their homes. They don't want
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them in their backyard. They'll talk a really, really good game when the migrants are over a
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thousand miles away down on the border. But they don't want these people. The only time that the
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wealthy Democrats of Martha's Vineyard are going to allow any Latin Americans anywhere near them is
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when they're mowing their lawns. That's what it's all about. And they'll talk a really, really good
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game. But ultimately, they don't care one little wit about these people. They certainly don't care
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about the millions of them coming each year. They can't even tolerate being near. They can't
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even tolerate 50 of them being near their property, much less themselves or their families.
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And so DeSantis exposes that and gives these migrants a nice trip to one of the most desirable
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locations in the world. Great. Keep it up. Keep those plane loads coming, baby. We got to do it. We
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You know, speaking of Mexicans and speaking of people from Latin America,
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switching gears here away from immigration, there is a story just came out of Mexico that is
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really, really jarring and should put all Americans on high alert for what it means
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for our own culture because it's coming here as well. A university student in Mexico is the school's
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valedictorian. He's got now his degree and license to practice psychology. And now all of that is
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threatened. His degree, his license to practice, his career is threatened because the valedictorian
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had the audacity to challenge transgender theory and to defend the family. So this guy, in his speech,
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in his valedictory speech, makes a really important, basic, but really important point. He says,
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I'll translate into English. Today, we are deep into a real anthropological struggle to redefine the
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human being, the human person, man, through the implementation of ideologies and fashions of thought
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that always end up undermining dignity and freedom. He then quoted G.K. Chesterton. He said,
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people do not know what they are doing because they do not know what they are undoing. And then he said,
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to attack life and the family is to self-destruct. It is an attack on civilization itself. Absolutely true.
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He's right. And now he could lose everything. ADF, the Alliance Defending Freedom, which I strongly support,
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is now defending this young man. This is coming here too. And what this really represents is
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effectively an outlawing of Christianity in public life. And coincidentally, an outlawing of Judaism
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in public life. And coincidentally, an outlawing of Islam in public life. And coincidentally, an outlawing
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of any vaguely traditional, religious, moral, ethical view on marriage. That's what it is.
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It's an establishment of leftism as the state religion. You're seeing it in Mexico. You're seeing
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it elsewhere in Latin America. You're seeing it all throughout Western Europe. And you're seeing it
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happen in the United States. This is what the marriage bill is about. I mentioned it a little
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briefly at the end of the show yesterday. There's a bill right now that's being supported by Democrats
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and squish Republicans. Republicans in the Senate and even some Senate candidates are volunteering this,
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like Dr. Oz, the biggest loser running this year. He's saying, I'm going to defend this bill that will
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not only accept the Supreme Court's decision to radically redefine marriage in Obergefell,
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but it's going to enshrine that in federal law. And by the way, even if you support Obergefell,
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even if you support redefining marriage to include same-sex unions, the bill goes much further than that.
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What the bill does is effectively outlaw institutions that have any relation to the government at all
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from believing that marriage is what marriage actually is and not the insane new definition
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of it. What the marriage bill will do is say that if you're a 501c3, if you're a church,
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if you're a civic organization, and you in any way support marriage as marriage actually is,
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you're going to lose your tax exemption. You're going to be punished by the state. You're going to be
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sued by the government. They already did this in Pennsylvania. They did this because a Catholic
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charity helps facilitate the adoption of children. And because it's a Catholic charity,
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it doesn't adopt children out to just anybody. It says that children have a right to a mother and
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a father. And so the babies go to married parents, husband and wife. Some gay activists sued and said,
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no, we want the children and we want to force the Catholic Adoption Agency to give children to us.
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Goes up to the high courts. And finally, the courts say, no, sorry, Pennsylvania. Sorry,
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political activists in the Pennsylvania government. You don't have the right to ban Catholicism from your
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state. This law would do it. This law would do it. And it's not even just this one bill you're seeing.
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It's not even just this one country. You're seeing it in Mexico too. If you even suggest that maybe we
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shouldn't redefine the human person in the family. Oh yeah. You remember how you were the smartest
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person in our class? Remember, you're the valedictorian. You're going to have a great
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career ahead of you. We're going to take it all away. We're going to take it all away because
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you have the audacity to be a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim or just a reasonable person.
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Or you have the audacity to hold the views on marriage and the human person that Barack Obama
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held in 2011. That's the stakes that we're talking about. And you've got squish, useless,
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coward, morally idiotic Republicans. Some of them. It's a small minority, but it's some of them
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who are defending it. It's pathetic. The question we're asking ourselves is not,
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well, who has the right? Who has the right to get married or adopt or this or the right to speak or
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your right to not be offended or this right or that right or this right? But really the question is,
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what is the animating force of our country? What is the soul of our country? That's what we're
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really asking. Countries have a physical aspect and a metaphysical aspect. Just like a human person,
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we got our body and we got our soul. Well, the country is the same way. So what is America?
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What we are told today by the libs is that America is a liberal democracy. We need to defend liberal
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democracy. And what's really ironic about this is that the phrase liberal democracy appears pretty
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much nowhere in the English language until, really until 1930. And then it doesn't spike at all until
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really the 1950s. And then it really doesn't take off until 1982. But before, if you, if you Google,
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say, Christian nation, that appears all over the place, Christian civilization, Christian country,
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that's all over the literature. You can see it everywhere. Liberal democracy doesn't exist,
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doesn't really take off until about 40 years ago.
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So if liberal democracy is what America really is at her core, at her essence,
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no one knew it until roughly four decades ago. The way that America conceived herself in the
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beginning, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, you don't see
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that phrase liberal democracy. You don't see the phrase democracy all that much. Democracy does not
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appear in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. It does appear in the Federalist Papers
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a handful of times, always with disapproval. The founding fathers were very, very skeptical of
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democracy. And the word liberal doesn't really appear. It doesn't appear in the Constitution,
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doesn't appear in the Declaration of Independence. It appears in the Federalist, again, a handful of
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times, but only in the sense of generous. You know, oh, he's a very liberal person. It's not referring
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to any political philosophy or ideology. By contrast, the word nation appears in all three of the
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documents. It appears in the Federalist Papers, I think, 569 times, always with approval. And then,
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so at the physical aspect, you see, okay, America's a nation. And then what animates the nation? What's
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the soul of the nation? It's not liberalism. If you go back to the founding documents, the founding
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papers, it's Christianity. That's what John Adams says. John Adams says that the thing that united the
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founding fathers, the thing that united the men who built the country, was the principles of
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Christianity. That's it. Sometimes the libs like to quote this line that they pretend is from John
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Adams. And they say, America is in no way founded on the Christian religion. That line comes from
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the Treaty of Tripoli. That was signed by John Adams, but it was not written by John Adams. It was
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written by the Jeffersonian Republican, Joel Barno, I think his name was. And it was just a diplomatic
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document to placate the Muslim pirates who were abducting and enslaving American sailors. It was like a
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ransom letter, basically. It wasn't a statement of philosophy or even really law. And John Adams,
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when he was speaking freely and not trying to ransom back the sailors, directly contradicted the
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Treaty of Tripoli. And we all know this. We know that America was a Christian nation going back to
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its earliest days, 1620, the Mayflower. Why did the pilgrims set sail on the Mayflower? To establish
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Christianity in the new world. Why did Governor Winthrop establish the Massachusetts Bay Colony?
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You don't need to scratch your head. We know he told us because he gave us a speech in which he said
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that America will be a shining city on a hill and a model of Christian charity. We see this in the
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writings of the Founding Fathers. We see this later on in American history. We see this in the Francis
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Scott Keyes poem. The Star-Spangled Banner is based on this poem called The Battle of Fort McHenry.
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And the final stanza of it, no one ever remembers the stanza, but the final big conclusion of the poem
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is, Oh, thus be it ever when free men shall stand between their loved home and the war's desolation.
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Blessed with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land praise the power that hath
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made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must when our cause is just, and this be our motto,
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in God is our trust. And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave, or the land of the free and
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the home of the brave. In God is our trust. So that poem became the national anthem. It was
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authorized for military use in the late 19th century. It's acknowledged for official use by the White House
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in 1916, I believe, and then established as the national anthem in 1931 with the approval of the
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president as well. So with the Congress and the president. This is our national anthem. This is
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our national motto, in God is our trust. Eisenhower added a version of that to the Pledge of Allegiance,
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one nation under God. And we know that in God, in God we trust is on all of the US currency. Okay,
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that's the animating principle. All a long way of saying, what is America? It's a Christian nation.
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The body of America, it's not just an empire. It's not a city-state. The physical aspect of
00:23:42.260
America is a nation. Okay, that's what the founders established. And then the spiritual aspect,
00:23:48.340
the metaphysical aspect, the thing that animates the nation, just like the soul animates the body.
00:23:53.160
A body without a soul is dead. A nation without an animating principle is dead. The animating
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principle is not liberalism. It's not secularism. It's not atheism. Traditionally, it's Christianity.
00:24:02.880
Christianity. That's what it is. It's just, I'm not even saying that's a good thing or a bad thing.
00:24:06.760
I obviously think it is a good thing. I'm just stating an historical fact that is irrefutable.
00:24:11.760
Okay? And now there's a major campaign underway to upend all of that. What the Libs want to do
00:24:17.120
is destroy America as a nation and open up its borders. A nation that doesn't have borders cannot
00:24:21.560
be a nation at all. They want to turn America into basically just a tax farm for a global empire
00:24:26.200
and make us all citizens of the world without any distinction between our people and other people.
00:24:31.180
But again, a nation that does not make any distinction between its own citizens and foreign
00:24:36.760
nationals is not a nation. There's nothing that distinguishes it as a nation. And then at the
00:24:42.720
metaphysical level, what the Democrats want to do is disestablish Christianity as the animating
00:24:48.160
principle of the country and establish atheism or secularism or leftism or whatever.
00:24:54.760
The consequences of that are terrible. The reason that the Libs are complaining about
00:24:58.460
Christian nationalism right now, I just gave a long talk on this at the National Conservative
00:25:01.640
Conference, which you can find on YouTube. The reason that the Democrats are losing their
00:25:05.840
minds over Christian nationalism is not because it's a departure from the American political
00:25:09.800
tradition. They're losing their minds over it because Christian nationalism is the American
00:25:14.660
political tradition. The Libs hate the American political tradition, and they're trying to upend
00:25:19.700
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00:27:00.080
Okay. What has happened to conservatives? We ask what has happened to the liberals. My bigger
00:27:10.620
question is what has happened to the conservatives? The way we talk, we sound today, American conservatives
00:27:17.620
send way more to the left than any of the libs or the radicals or the socialists did 10, 20,
00:27:24.160
30 years ago. How pathetic is that? Dr. Oz got me thinking about this because Dr. Oz right now is
00:27:31.200
campaigning as a Republican for Senate far to the left of Barack Obama just 10 years ago, 11 years
00:27:37.000
ago. But it's not just Dr. Oz. It's a lot of other Republicans too. How on earth did we get here?
00:27:43.480
Edmund Smirk, one of my favorite Twitter accounts, pseudonymous Twitter accounts,
00:27:47.200
called my attention to this. It is the radical feminist Catherine McKinnon back in 1993
00:27:52.920
discussing the issue of porn. Take a listen because she sounds far more right wing than
00:28:00.160
almost any conservative on this issue today. Those are actual acts. That isn't what quote
00:28:06.500
unquote offends somebody. Charlie, if you heard a woman screaming in the next room by being bounced
00:28:12.400
off walls by a man she lives with, are you offended? I mean, that isn't what you say to yourself.
00:28:20.180
You're experiencing the enactment of an abuse. You're witnessing it. You feel it. You hear
00:28:26.560
her scream. You think I've got to do something about this. I'm saying, I mean, that's what I
00:28:32.520
experience when I see pornography. A woman is being hurt here. She's being violated. She's being used.
00:28:41.040
And on top of it, I get to know that someone's enjoying this. I mean, on top of her humiliation,
00:28:49.920
there's going to be men experiencing their own sexuality and this being protected as a
00:28:56.220
constitutional right and called a form of entertainment. Let me get based. How can I,
00:29:02.100
how can I vote for that radical feminist? Because that radical feminist is much more right wing.
00:29:08.040
This radical left wing feminist, she's a leftist and she's Catherine McKinnon. Okay.
00:29:12.600
She is much more right wing on very important issues than pretty much any Republican today.
00:29:21.180
Pathetic represents a total failure, a total collapse of anything even resembling conservatism
00:29:26.780
over the last 30 years. And the point she's making is a really important one, even beyond porn,
00:29:34.020
even beyond porn. Because what she's saying is, look, if you were just sitting in your,
00:29:41.140
in your home and you heard your neighbor, there's some woman who's your neighbor making the sounds
00:29:46.560
that you would hear in lots of, if not most pornography, you'd probably rush over there and
00:29:52.580
you say, Hey, is everything, everything okay? Are you all right, lady? It sounds like you're being,
00:29:57.420
no, no. Okay. All right. Maybe, maybe she's okay, but maybe she's not.
00:30:00.120
Pornography can be very, you know, because pornography is appealing to your, your most
00:30:05.640
base sort of despicable fantasies, right? It's not, it's not appealing to your higher loves,
00:30:10.940
it's appealing to your lust. So it's, it is representing generally sort of abusive behavior.
00:30:17.900
You would be concerned about that. You would feel, even if you were just hearing it in real life,
00:30:21.120
you, you would, you would feel like you were somehow, you had an obligation to do something.
00:30:24.860
So why don't people feel that way with pornography? Pornography always represents an abuse,
00:30:30.900
even if it's not violent pornography. It is a woman being used, her, her not being treated as a full
00:30:37.380
human being, but just being used as a kind of slab of meat to appeal to the, to the basis desires of
00:30:43.060
the audience and being thrown out like trash and being paid very little. And everyone knows that
00:30:47.520
everyone's heard the horrible stories of abuse in the pornography industry. So why is it that you would
00:30:52.380
feel bad and sort of morally responsible if it were happening in the room next door, but you don't
00:30:56.380
feel bad and morally responsible when you're getting your jollies looking at it on a computer screen?
00:31:01.060
This is where the issue becomes much bigger than just pornography. Actually, you feel that when you
00:31:08.080
are, when you are experiencing life in, in a virtual world that you don't have moral responsibilities.
00:31:16.160
Oh, it's just online. You see this on Twitter, the way people talk to one another on Twitter
00:31:19.920
is, is wrong and, and impolite and frankly sinful. A lot of the time, you would never speak that way
00:31:27.140
to someone in real life, but you feel like you can speak that way to someone on the internet because
00:31:31.900
Twitter is not real life. Twitter is not real life. The internet's not real life. Porn is not real
00:31:37.220
life, except it actually is. It's life. You're there. You're there doing it. You are, you are responsible
00:31:44.820
for your actions, even in the virtual world. And we've got to resolve this issue right now because
00:31:49.520
we are going to be living more and more of our lives in the virtual world. We don't go shopping
00:31:53.920
that much anymore. We just click buttons online. We don't see our friends in person nearly as much
00:31:57.900
anymore. We do it online or on FaceTime or on our phones or on chat or on text. We don't, we don't
00:32:04.140
get married and have sex as much anymore. You can see those numbers plummeting. What do we do instead?
00:32:08.480
Instead, we sext, we, well, I don't, okay? I'm not sexting anybody, but I'm not doing,
00:32:13.460
listen, I'm married, I'm a happily married man, okay? But what do, what do young people do? The
00:32:17.560
ones who are not getting married, the ones who are not, the ones who statistically aren't even
00:32:20.700
having sex anymore. What are they doing? They're living their lives online and they're having this
00:32:24.720
virtual connection. And so then if we have, if we believe that we don't have any moral responsibilities
00:32:32.920
in the virtual realm, then we're just throwing morality out the window in terms of how we treat
00:32:39.120
our coworkers, in terms of how we treat our family and our friends, in terms of how we treat, yes,
00:32:44.100
the issue of sex, in terms of how we treat our countrymen, in terms of, you are morally responsible
00:32:50.020
for these things. You are, you are doing it. Whether you want to pretend like your body doesn't matter at
00:32:54.720
all. Like you're just, it's only an intellectual action. It's only a, an action that's happening in
00:32:59.880
your mind. But you have responsibility for that as well, okay? I can't believe that, that the, the,
00:33:08.140
the radical feminists are much smarter on this point than the conservatives are. Conservatives got
00:33:14.380
to wise up, got to wise up on this because this is the future. As we move ever closer toward the
00:33:19.340
metaverse, you are going to want to make sure that we recognize the moral responsibility that we all
00:33:26.300
have toward ourselves and toward each other, whether it's in Oculus or whether it's in real life.
00:33:31.960
Because it's all real life. It's all real life, whether it, no matter how much it involves your
00:33:35.620
body, it is real life. Speaking of women and sex, Nancy Pelosi is coming out strongly in favor of
00:33:43.740
abortion ahead of the midterms. There is a conflict within the Republican Party. There are those in the
00:33:49.820
party that think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before. And, and, and, and these
00:33:56.120
people are in defiance of that, right? They're in defiance of that because they're saying whatever
00:34:02.220
they're saying about it. So that's, that's what you're seeing there. But we are united in our support
00:34:10.760
Ha ha ha. Okay. That's a funny line. These Republicans, they think that life begins, you know,
00:34:15.900
at the candlelit dinner before you go. It's so crazy. These crazy Republicans, every sperm is
00:34:22.540
sacred. Like what was a Monty Python used to sing, except Republicans don't really believe that life
00:34:29.380
begins at the candlelit dinner. They don't believe that life begins at the level of the gonads or the
00:34:37.120
sperm or the egg. They say that life begins at conception. This is the real holdup for the Democrats
00:34:43.180
on all these kinds of silly lines. Obviously life begins at conception. That's the definition of
00:34:51.020
conception. That's why there's a word for it. Conception refers to the beginning of life when
00:34:57.060
it is conceived. So no, it's, it's pretty clear. And no matter what sort of debates people want to
00:35:04.140
have about abortion, the Democrats can never get past this, this fact. And so they've got to just have
00:35:10.700
these kind of glib jokes and these dismissals and oh, nevermind. And these distractions and nothing
00:35:17.100
to see here. They're trying to do it on, on the immigration issue as well. Oh no, this is human
00:35:23.080
trafficking. This is awful what they're doing. But then there's the obvious next step, which is,
00:35:28.960
well, hold on, you're, you're doing the same thing at a, not just a slightly higher scale,
00:35:33.140
at many orders of magnitude, higher scale. So what we can't, we can't get past that.
00:35:40.040
Sometimes these issues are really, really simple. When does life begin? Life begins at conception.
00:35:43.780
That's the definition. Well, what's, what's wrong with illegal immigration? Illegal immigration is
00:35:48.340
illegal. It's not that complicated. Okay. Why can't the foreigners do whatever they want in America?
00:35:54.380
Because they're not citizens because citizens are citizens. And there's a clear, there are really
00:35:58.300
clear distinctions to be had here, folks. And the Democrats can giggle and be glib, but because
00:36:03.920
they have no arguments here, ultimately they've just got to suppress the debate on this and attack
00:36:10.060
their political opponents as a matter of rhetoric and physically increasingly as well. You know,
00:36:15.000
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00:36:26.320
Michael, I am a adjunct professor at two colleges in California. And, uh, I want to know how you
00:36:35.180
would handle this one in an interview. Uh, I was asked the question of how do you deal with your
00:36:41.680
white privilege and being a middle-aged white male, I'm just wondering how would you handle that
00:36:49.860
question? Thank you. How do I deal with my white privilege? Well, I worked as hard as I could to do,
00:36:58.220
to do as well as I could on the SAT because I knew that in college admissions I would be
00:37:03.660
discriminated against, uh, because of my white privilege. Uh, I, uh, made sure that I watched
00:37:11.300
every single word that I ever said because I knew that if I ever said anything that could be in any way,
00:37:16.960
even implausibly misinterpreted as somehow racist, I knew that my entire life could be ruined because
00:37:23.380
of my, uh, white privilege. I, uh, made sure that, uh, when I was insulted by the entire culture and by
00:37:31.800
the state and by the government because of my, uh, skin color, I made sure never to, you know,
00:37:37.960
speak up too loudly against that because I knew that that would somehow paradoxically be called
00:37:43.400
racist as well. And, uh, then, then my life could be ruined for it. So how did I deal with my white
00:37:49.200
privilege, you know, with the spirit of resignation and the recognition that suffering can be a
00:37:54.200
sanctifying fact? I guess that's how, that's how one deals with white privilege these days, as we all
00:38:00.320
should deal with the various difficulties that one faces in life. You know, a spirit of resignation,
00:38:05.040
kiss it up to God, try to make things a little bit better and don't complain. Next question.
00:38:09.300
Hello, Michael. This is, uh, Eduardo Hernandez. I'm calling from Puerto Rico. Uh, I'm a medical
00:38:17.840
doctor. I'm a conservative because not everybody over here are crazy lefty lunatics, uh, who think
00:38:26.820
the world runs on rainbows and good intentions. Uh, I wanted to introduce you to the Dunn and Kruger
00:38:35.800
effect. See if you ever heard about it, if you know about it and what do you think about the
00:38:44.240
whole concept and how can you relate it to current politics? I'm very interested in listening to you
00:38:52.160
about this and I wanted to say hello to big fan. All right. Great question. Yes, I am familiar to
00:38:59.540
some degree with the Dunn and Kruger effect. As I understand it, the Dunn and Kruger effect is this
00:39:04.340
warping of self-perception such that people who are at the low end of skill or intelligence or aptitude
00:39:12.140
tend to overestimate their skill and intelligence and aptitude. And also that people at the high end
00:39:20.140
of skill and intelligence and aptitude tend to, uh, underestimate how skilled and smart they are at
00:39:27.500
certain things. Uh, and what do I think of it? I think it's obviously true. This is obviously true.
00:39:34.320
We all know this in our daily lives, right? It's always the people who are the most strident
00:39:39.840
yelling, you know, not only can they not change their minds, but they can't even change the subject.
00:39:44.260
Those people are the ones who tend to, to utterly dismiss anything that anyone has to say other than
00:39:50.940
themselves. Those people tend to be a little bit dumber, right? And those people tend to be more
00:39:55.520
ignorant. Uh, uh, uh, a wiser, uh, way to operate in the world would be one of humility to recognize
00:40:03.540
that every man is my master. Every man is my teacher. I can learn something from, from everybody
00:40:07.440
on earth. That's obviously true. And I've, I've seen the other side of it too. People who are
00:40:11.820
some of the most intelligent, capable people I've ever met do tend to be not only humble, which is good.
00:40:19.300
You want to cultivate a spirit of humility, but do actually sometimes vastly underestimate
00:40:24.020
their, uh, their skill and intelligence. That's certainly true. But it's, you see,
00:40:29.420
it's much more common in the first sense that dumb people tend to think they're a lot smarter than they
00:40:33.740
are to oversimplify it. And it's, it's really dangerous. There's, there's that great bit of
00:40:39.840
advice, which is that it's better to be silent and thought to be an idiot rather than to open your
00:40:46.900
mouth and prove it. And it's, and it's another thing. I remember it pretty distinctly in my early
00:40:53.860
twenties. This happened to me a little bit in college, but really in my early twenties, I had this
00:41:01.260
bomb go off in my head where I was reading a lot. You know, I try to read at night, have a cigar,
00:41:07.200
and as I'm reading just these kinds of different smatterings of books, I realized that I don't
00:41:13.120
know anything and it's not false modesty. It's just a little dose of humility. I realized, oh my
00:41:21.200
gosh, not only do I, I know statistically nothing, but I, I only have even a hint of an inkling of,
00:41:32.860
of how little I don't know. You know, the kind of Don Rumsfeld known knowns, known unknowns and
00:41:41.080
unknown unknowns. The unknown unknowns are the scariest one because when you know what you know,
00:41:45.760
that's fine. It's usually pretty small amount of things. And then the known unknowns, you can say,
00:41:50.440
okay, well, I know that there was such a thing as welding. I just don't know how to do it, but I know
00:41:53.860
that they're okay. And then unknown unknowns would be, it's the largest category of all. It's all the
00:42:00.820
things that you don't know that you don't even know that you don't know. And so a spirit of humility
00:42:04.780
is very important. If for no other reason, then at least you won't look like such a dummy. Okay,
00:42:09.740
next one. Michael, in relation to your interview the other day with the Fox News host who got fired
00:42:18.240
for not taking the vaccine, it made me wonder about something my friends talk about quite frequently
00:42:25.680
who are super conservative. And that's about controlled opposition. I hear this pointed at
00:42:31.380
Fox News a lot, especially because of them calling Florida, but I've even heard it levied at Daily Wire
00:42:37.700
and Ben Shapiro by more, we'll call them rabid conservatives. Can you give me your take on
00:42:44.040
controlled opposition and what that means and who the players are in our modern society who could be that?
00:42:52.120
Absolutely. It's a really, really good question. There are two kinds of controlled opposition.
00:42:59.780
The one version of controlled opposition is that there's a shadowy cabal of five people in a room
00:43:05.340
who just pick up the phone and they say, tell this person not to say that or tell this person to do
00:43:10.280
that or whatever. It kind of goes down the chain and then that's what happens. I'm not saying that
00:43:15.960
has never happened anywhere. The reason that conspiracy theories can gain ground is because
00:43:22.020
there are conspiracies. So I'm not saying that that doesn't happen a lot. But the much more
00:43:25.920
prevalent version of controlled opposition is not really guided by any one person at all. It's guided
00:43:32.900
by a structure and a system in which there are incentives and disincentives to raising certain
00:43:38.860
ideas or making certain arguments. And so a really good example of this would be social media, right?
00:43:46.900
On social media, you can say certain things and you can't say certain things. And you remember this
00:43:53.300
during COVID, right? During COVID, there were moments where I had episodes of my show taken down
00:43:58.560
because I said true things, perfectly unobjectionable true things that the prevailing ruling class would not
00:44:06.240
tolerate. And so they took my show down on the biggest social media platforms in the country.
00:44:09.840
Fortunately, I have the Daily Wire. And so I could say on the show, okay, this is being censored here.
00:44:14.500
We'd sometimes put a censorship bar over it, but go on over to Daily Wire, you get the full story,
00:44:18.620
which I think would be some evidence that we are not controlled opposition at the Daily Wire. But
00:44:22.980
we're subject to the same forces, the same incentives and disincentives as anybody else.
00:44:28.180
And so the important thing here is to give yourself more leverage such that you're not at the
00:44:34.680
whims and the mercy of that ruling structure, okay? And so this is something Daily Wire has tried to do
00:44:41.380
very intentionally. We are trying to build an entirely separate ecosystem. That's why we're
00:44:48.600
selling razors. That's why we're making movies. That's why we're increasingly sending people over
00:44:52.560
to become members on the Daily Wire, because then we are less vulnerable to the forces of this kind of
00:44:57.360
superstructure that tries to shrink the Overton window and move the realm of acceptable discourse
00:45:03.140
very far to the left, okay? And that's what we have to do. You've got to be able to have your
00:45:08.760
own platform. Ideally, you've got to be able to have your own servers in case, let's say,
00:45:12.960
Amazon Web Services wants to take you down. You've got to be able to have your own wealth
00:45:17.060
so that you can fight back, so that you can't be just absolutely crushed by much more powerful and
00:45:23.220
wealthy and better financed forces, right? It's much more complicated. So when you're talking
00:45:30.780
about a cable news channel, yeah, cable news is, one, I think a lot of the cable news channels
00:45:35.760
intentionally don't want to promote particularly conservative content. But also, they're very
00:45:42.380
firmly within a superstructure that won't permit them to either. That's why we need alternatives.
00:45:48.400
Hello, Mr. Knowles. Hope you're doing well. I got a question here for you.
00:45:52.900
What if we made a punishment worse than the death penalty? Now, I bring this question to you
00:45:58.340
because in a previous voicemail bag, you were kind of talking about how if we made the punishment
00:46:03.340
for rape and murder the same, the death penalty, for example, then the rapist would have an incentive
00:46:10.080
to kill the victim, which would be horrible. So we said, okay, you know, we're not going to do that.
00:46:14.500
We're going to have a lesser punishment for rape and then a worse punishment for murder.
00:46:19.640
I think this makes sense. However, I think there's a better solution. So here it is.
00:46:23.980
What if we keep rape at the death penalty and created a worse punishment for murder?
00:46:32.580
Now, what would this entail? I would say, is torture on the books? Is that something that we
00:46:39.980
could do? You know, of course, we would have to throw away the cruel and unusual punishment clause,
00:46:44.980
but I don't know. Maybe it's something worth to consider. Appreciate it.
00:46:49.180
Fair enough suggestion, but I would not consider it too strongly. One, because you would have to
00:46:55.880
amend the constitution, as you say, to get rid of cruel and unusual punishment prohibitions,
00:47:00.680
which I think would be virtually impossible and ill-advised. But two, because torture does not
00:47:12.340
seem to jive very well with justice. You know, the reason that we execute certain criminals and the
00:47:17.160
reason we punish all criminals, there are three reasons. There is the deterrent effect, there is
00:47:21.940
the rehabilitative effect, and then there is retribution, retributive justice. All of which is
00:47:27.720
a little different than, say, vengeance or a sort of vindictive infliction of pain. Okay? And so you've
00:47:37.680
got two scenarios here. To preserve an incentive for rapists not to kill their victims, you could say,
00:47:45.580
all right, we're going to kill the murderers and we're going to give life in prison or a long prison
00:47:50.260
sentence to rapists or castration to rapists. Or you say, we're going to kill the rapists and we're
00:47:55.420
going to draw and quarter the murderers. I think life in prison and castration for rapists would be
00:48:05.640
sufficient. I don't think that I would upend the constitution and institute a regime of torture
00:48:11.580
just to squeeze a little more punishment out of people who commit bad crimes. Okay, one last
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written question before we get to the member block from Daniel. Michael, my wife and I got married
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earlier this summer. We're still in that wonderful honeymoon phase. My question is this. In your
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marriage, how do you go about deciding which arguments you are willing to contend with and
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which ones you will let go? On one hand, I don't want to constantly argue about everything. On the
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other, I don't want to be one of those cuckold husbands who don't stand up for what they believe is
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right. I think there's a pretty big gray area between the foundational questions, openness to children,
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raising the family and the faith, versus the trivial, which movie to watch, what to have for
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dinner, etc. But where do you draw the line? How do you make the distinction? Any other marital
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advice for a young couple would be welcome. Thanks. I would be really traditional about this. I would
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throw feminism out the window and you'll have a much better life. So the way that we do it,
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sweet little Lisa and I, is I do reluctantly act as the head of household. And usually she has to
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prod me to do it. We'll be saying, where do you want to go to dinner? You want Chinese? I don't
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know. You want Italian? I don't know. You want Mexican? And she'll say to me, Mac, you're the head
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of household Genesis 3. Make a decision. Let's go. You know, same thing with watching a movie or
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whatever. Because men generally don't really want to be tyrants, you know, insisting on their will
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all the time. Men generally want to sit on the couch and eat potato chips and not have to make
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decisions. But the way it's set up, you know, if you're a Christian, then, you know, you're the man
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is the head of the household. And so practically speaking, we hash out all of the questions. I don't
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just, this especially happens with decorations in our home. I really care a lot about aesthetics.
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And so we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it at length and come to a kind of, no, I don't think
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this is good. No, I think this looks more beautiful. No, this color is better. We'll hash it out.
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Ultimately, if we really come to an impasse, I will make a decision. Very often I defer to my wife.
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Sometimes I don't defer to my wife, okay? As a practical matter on most decisions,
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certainly within the home and a lot within the family, I defer to my wife entirely.
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But I think if you still have that structure of the man as the head of the household, it makes it,
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it makes things much clearer and more orderly. Okay, the rest of the show is continuing now.
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