The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1089 - Diversity Is Not Martha’s Vineyard's Strength

00:00:00.000 Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has sent the entire American left into a tizzy,

00:00:05.300 a now days-long national meltdown. How did he do it? He approached 50 of the 2 million

00:00:13.840 illegal aliens per year that Democrats invite into this country. He gave 50 of them, 5-0,

00:00:20.900 airplane tickets to Martha's Vineyard. The fact that Fox News and not the Department

00:00:27.780 of Homeland Security, the city, or local NGOs were alerted about a plan to leave migrants,

00:00:34.920 including children, on the side of a busy D.C. street makes clear that this is just a cruel,

00:00:40.720 premeditated political stunt. This is what they are doing. And a couple more things. The migrants, 0.81

00:00:46.880 including children, who arrived in Martha's Vineyard were misled about where they were being

00:00:52.820 taken and what would be provided when they arrived is also deeply alarming. The children

00:00:59.440 Governor Abbott abandoned in Martha's Vineyard, the children that Governor DeSantis abandoned

00:01:06.280 as well deserve better. They deserve better than being left on the streets of D.C. or being left

00:01:16.900 in Martha's Vineyard. They deserve a lot better than that. Yeah, these people deserve better than

00:01:23.000 to be left on the streets of Washington, D.C. or Martha's Vineyard. They deserve to be left on the

00:01:29.080 streets of El Paso, right? Isn't that so much better? She also keeps saying it's the children,

00:01:32.840 it's the children. It's adults. It's adult people who have come to America, flocking. Some children 0.66

00:01:39.540 come to America, too. Democrats have invited millions and millions of people per year.

00:01:43.520 And it's good, right? It's good to leave them there, right there on the border. It's just bad

00:01:48.720 to leave them in Martha's Vineyard. I don't mean to disparage El Paso. I like Texas as much as the

00:01:54.800 next guy. But I don't see very many prominent Democrats, wealthy liberal elites buying property

00:02:00.880 on the border. Do you? I don't see many wealthy liberals vacationing in El Paso or Del Rio.

00:02:07.600 I see them all flocking to Martha's Vineyard, which they boast is a sanctuary for illegal aliens. 0.97

00:02:15.780 So great. That's a win-win, right? The illegal aliens come in and Texas says to Florida, Arizona, 1.00

00:02:23.140 they say we're not a sanctuary. So okay, send them up to some of the most desirable property in the

00:02:27.060 world, which says it is a sanctuary. Great, right? Apparently not. The liberal journalist,

00:02:32.280 Soledad O'Brien, summed up the opposition. Basically, human trafficking, she tweeted, 0.77

00:02:39.960 cheered on by people who call themselves Christians. It's disgusting. 0.90

00:02:44.760 But if Republicans bringing 50 illegal aliens to Martha's Vineyard constitutes human trafficking,

00:02:51.700 what do you call it when Democrats bring 2 million illegal aliens per year into border states? 0.94

00:02:57.180 And then, by the way, what do you call it when Democrats do exactly the same thing that DeSantis

00:03:02.480 did, except in regular, consistent, much larger numbers? We've got the headlines right here.

00:03:07.680 If the problem is that DeSantis is flying illegal aliens around the country, just 50 of them,

00:03:13.980 what about this headline? Biden sent 70 secret night flights of migrants from border to Florida.

00:03:21.940 That's from the Washington Examiner. What about this headline?

00:03:24.520 Biden administration resumes migrant flights to suburban New York report. That's in Fox News.

00:03:32.160 Okay, you might say, well, those are, well, the Examiner's not right-wing, but you know, okay,

00:03:36.060 Fox News, that's a sort of vaguely right-wing website. What about NBC News? I got NBC News right

00:03:40.520 here. Biden administration again flying migrants who cross border in one place to another before

00:03:46.200 expelling them. Okay, what about this NBC headline? Amid border surge, Biden administration plans to send

00:03:52.400 migrants to cities deeper inside U.S., starting with L.A., say, internal documents.

00:03:59.960 Now, why is it that when Republicans do, at a very, very small, minuscule level, exactly the same

00:04:08.960 thing Democrats have done at a huge level, that's human trafficking? In a way, I guess it is human

00:04:14.340 trafficking. In a way, Democrats, for coming up on 60 years now, have trafficked tens of millions of

00:04:21.780 illegal aliens into America, exposing them, by the way, to all manner of horrific violence on the 1.00

00:04:27.780 journey and violating America's most basic laws in the process. Then, when Democrats feel like they've

00:04:34.100 got enough illegals in border states, they fly the migrants to other parts of the country where they 0.99

00:04:38.580 think that they'll be more politically useful. And then, all the while, it's lauded as virtuous and

00:04:44.060 compassionate and as American as apple pie. And then, the moment Republicans send even a few dozen

00:04:50.060 of those very same migrants to the neighborhoods of wealthy Democrats, all of a sudden, it's a crime 1.00

00:04:54.680 against humanity. Beach season is over. There are now lots of multi-million dollar mansions owned by

00:05:01.720 open borders Democrats all over Martha's Vineyard. There are ample, opulent accommodations just

00:05:08.400 waiting to be occupied by people to whom the owners of those homes promised sanctuary, back when they

00:05:15.380 thought it was impossible that the migrants would actually show up for it. I, for one, say it's time 1.00

00:05:20.680 to open up the doors of those wealthy Democrats' homes to all that diversity and strength. Show those

00:05:26.780 selfish border state Republicans what true compassion looks like. And Governor DeSantis keeps sending those

00:05:34.240 lucky illegal aliens up to the vineyard for a luxury vacation the Democrats will never forget. I'm Michael 0.56

00:05:40.500 Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:07:49.860 Not in my backyard. That is the Democrats' immigration policy. Oh, yeah, open up that

00:07:58.940 border, as long as it's down in El Paso, as long as it's down in Del Rio, as long as they're going

00:08:02.600 to Florida, as long as the Biden administration can fly the migrants to wherever they're politically

00:08:06.720 useful. Maybe, look, maybe they'll end up in some blue cities, only some small number of them. All

00:08:14.160 right, we'll tolerate that, I guess. But they sure as hell ain't coming to Martha's Vineyard. Oh, no.

00:08:19.660 50 migrants? 50? Oh, my gosh. Think of the property values, though. Oh, could you imagine? 1.00

00:08:26.080 And then there might be a line, you know, at the local brunch spot. No, no, no. We need to build a big,

00:08:31.260 beautiful wall around Martha's Vineyard and keep those migrants out. We just have to send them to 1.00

00:08:35.000 border states. The head of the Winter Home Shelter, Lisa Belcastro, she's coordinator there,

00:08:42.920 she just came out and summed up, I think, the opinion of Martha's Vineyard.

00:08:46.500 What are the most difficult challenges right now? The difficult challenges are

00:08:50.180 we have, at some point in time, they have to move to somewhere else, right? We cannot,

00:08:58.280 we don't have the services to take care of 50 immigrants. And we certainly don't have housing. 1.00

00:09:05.540 We're in a housing crisis as we are on this island. And so we don't, we can't house everyone

00:09:11.340 here that lives here and works here. We don't have housing for 50 more people.

00:09:16.460 That's tough. Sounds like you're gonna have to build some more housing. 0.97

00:09:19.460 Sounds like you don't, oh, you don't have the services set up for, well, you, I guess you better,

00:09:23.660 better get them, huh? I mean, the federal government spends untold amounts of money,

00:09:29.060 not only to service illegal immigration, but to actually encourage illegal immigration. So better 0.83

00:09:34.780 send some of that money to Martha's Vineyard. 50 people, 50. It's nothing. That's so few people.

00:09:43.040 That's not a drop of an iota of a fraction of a, of even a slight percentage point of the illegal

00:09:51.060 immigration that border states get. So you better figure it out, guys. Oh, we just don't have room.

00:09:55.620 What are you talking about? Martha's Vineyard is empty right now. People leave Martha's Vineyard

00:10:00.600 after Labor Day. Consider the homes that are completely empty right now. I bet you any home,

00:10:09.100 almost any home on Martha's Vineyard could have, that is empty right now, that is owned by some

00:10:13.980 wealthy liberal elite could house all of the migrants that Ron DeSantis sent up there. They just won't do it. 0.50

00:10:19.760 Because they would much rather have red state voters, they would much rather have Republicans

00:10:26.400 in Texas deal with the consequences of illegal immigration than in any way, even slightly crack

00:10:32.000 open the doors to their gazillion dollar mansions. Barack Obama alone could house every single

00:10:37.400 migrant that has been sent to Martha's Vineyard. Barack Obama has a $12 million mansion on Martha's

00:10:43.060 Vineyard. It's almost 7,000 square feet. It's got seven bedrooms, but even that, okay, so seven

00:10:48.460 bedrooms, that alone could probably almost house all of the illegal immigrants to say nothing of 1.00

00:10:54.380 the living rooms and the sitting rooms and the, but Barack Obama's got 30 acres. This guy has so

00:11:01.360 much land. He's got a separate barn. You could put up a temporary shelter there. You got 30 acres. You

00:11:06.620 could put up many temporary shelters. Every migrant could get his own temporary mansion. 1.00

00:11:12.040 And he should do it, by the way. If Barack Obama wanted a real political masterstroke here,

00:11:19.580 he would open up his home. He's got the best security in the world. He doesn't need to worry

00:11:22.500 about that. He's not even there. He could open up his home, allow the 50 migrants in. He would look 1.00

00:11:28.660 like an absolute hero. It would be such a masterstroke. But he won't do it. None of these people will do it

00:11:34.740 because they don't want the dirty, filthy, hoi polloi migrants in their homes. They don't want 1.00

00:11:40.240 them in their backyard. They'll talk a really, really good game when the migrants are over a 1.00

00:11:44.200 thousand miles away down on the border. But they don't want these people. The only time that the

00:11:48.800 wealthy Democrats of Martha's Vineyard are going to allow any Latin Americans anywhere near them is 1.00

00:11:53.120 when they're mowing their lawns. That's what it's all about. And they'll talk a really, really good

00:11:56.380 game. But ultimately, they don't care one little wit about these people. They certainly don't care

00:12:02.100 about the millions of them coming each year. They can't even tolerate being near. They can't

00:12:06.620 even tolerate 50 of them being near their property, much less themselves or their families.

00:12:14.260 And so DeSantis exposes that and gives these migrants a nice trip to one of the most desirable 1.00

00:12:19.000 locations in the world. Great. Keep it up. Keep those plane loads coming, baby. We got to do it. We

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00:14:04.220 You know, speaking of Mexicans and speaking of people from Latin America,

00:14:09.340 switching gears here away from immigration, there is a story just came out of Mexico that is

00:14:14.780 really, really jarring and should put all Americans on high alert for what it means

00:14:20.380 for our own culture because it's coming here as well. A university student in Mexico is the school's

00:14:28.420 valedictorian. He's got now his degree and license to practice psychology. And now all of that is

00:14:36.420 threatened. His degree, his license to practice, his career is threatened because the valedictorian

00:14:42.660 had the audacity to challenge transgender theory and to defend the family. So this guy, in his speech,

00:14:52.060 in his valedictory speech, makes a really important, basic, but really important point. He says,

00:14:58.600 I'll translate into English. Today, we are deep into a real anthropological struggle to redefine the

00:15:04.280 human being, the human person, man, through the implementation of ideologies and fashions of thought

00:15:09.880 that always end up undermining dignity and freedom. He then quoted G.K. Chesterton. He said,

00:15:16.880 people do not know what they are doing because they do not know what they are undoing. And then he said,

00:15:21.420 to attack life and the family is to self-destruct. It is an attack on civilization itself. Absolutely true.

00:15:28.220 He's right. And now he could lose everything. ADF, the Alliance Defending Freedom, which I strongly support,

00:15:34.620 is now defending this young man. This is coming here too. And what this really represents is

00:15:41.120 effectively an outlawing of Christianity in public life. And coincidentally, an outlawing of Judaism 0.66

00:15:47.700 in public life. And coincidentally, an outlawing of Islam in public life. And coincidentally, an outlawing 0.87

00:15:51.520 of any vaguely traditional, religious, moral, ethical view on marriage. That's what it is.

00:15:57.840 It's an establishment of leftism as the state religion. You're seeing it in Mexico. You're seeing

00:16:06.380 it elsewhere in Latin America. You're seeing it all throughout Western Europe. And you're seeing it

00:16:09.680 happen in the United States. This is what the marriage bill is about. I mentioned it a little

00:16:12.980 briefly at the end of the show yesterday. There's a bill right now that's being supported by Democrats

00:16:17.880 and squish Republicans. Republicans in the Senate and even some Senate candidates are volunteering this,

00:16:24.840 like Dr. Oz, the biggest loser running this year. He's saying, I'm going to defend this bill that will

00:16:30.040 not only accept the Supreme Court's decision to radically redefine marriage in Obergefell,

00:16:34.620 but it's going to enshrine that in federal law. And by the way, even if you support Obergefell,

00:16:39.080 even if you support redefining marriage to include same-sex unions, the bill goes much further than that.

00:16:45.920 What the bill does is effectively outlaw institutions that have any relation to the government at all

00:16:51.180 from believing that marriage is what marriage actually is and not the insane new definition

00:16:56.800 of it. What the marriage bill will do is say that if you're a 501c3, if you're a church,

00:17:04.920 if you're a civic organization, and you in any way support marriage as marriage actually is,

00:17:14.640 you're going to lose your tax exemption. You're going to be punished by the state. You're going to be

00:17:18.660 sued by the government. They already did this in Pennsylvania. They did this because a Catholic 1.00

00:17:22.480 charity helps facilitate the adoption of children. And because it's a Catholic charity,

00:17:29.580 it doesn't adopt children out to just anybody. It says that children have a right to a mother and

00:17:34.040 a father. And so the babies go to married parents, husband and wife. Some gay activists sued and said,

00:17:43.040 no, we want the children and we want to force the Catholic Adoption Agency to give children to us.

00:17:47.260 Goes up to the high courts. And finally, the courts say, no, sorry, Pennsylvania. Sorry,

00:17:55.080 political activists in the Pennsylvania government. You don't have the right to ban Catholicism from your

00:18:00.460 state. This law would do it. This law would do it. And it's not even just this one bill you're seeing.

00:18:05.620 It's not even just this one country. You're seeing it in Mexico too. If you even suggest that maybe we

00:18:10.800 shouldn't redefine the human person in the family. Oh yeah. You remember how you were the smartest

00:18:15.560 person in our class? Remember, you're the valedictorian. You're going to have a great

00:18:17.940 career ahead of you. We're going to take it all away. We're going to take it all away because

00:18:21.900 you have the audacity to be a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim or just a reasonable person. 0.90

00:18:28.600 Or you have the audacity to hold the views on marriage and the human person that Barack Obama

00:18:33.000 held in 2011. That's the stakes that we're talking about. And you've got squish, useless,

00:18:39.860 coward, morally idiotic Republicans. Some of them. It's a small minority, but it's some of them

00:18:46.660 who are defending it. It's pathetic. The question we're asking ourselves is not,

00:18:51.600 well, who has the right? Who has the right to get married or adopt or this or the right to speak or

00:18:56.860 your right to not be offended or this right or that right or this right? But really the question is,

00:19:00.700 what is the animating force of our country? What is the soul of our country? That's what we're

00:19:07.220 really asking. Countries have a physical aspect and a metaphysical aspect. Just like a human person,

00:19:13.720 we got our body and we got our soul. Well, the country is the same way. So what is America?

00:19:20.020 What we are told today by the libs is that America is a liberal democracy. We need to defend liberal

00:19:24.980 democracy. And what's really ironic about this is that the phrase liberal democracy appears pretty

00:19:32.240 much nowhere in the English language until, really until 1930. And then it doesn't spike at all until

00:19:40.080 really the 1950s. And then it really doesn't take off until 1982. But before, if you, if you Google,

00:19:46.640 say, Christian nation, that appears all over the place, Christian civilization, Christian country,

00:19:51.320 that's all over the literature. You can see it everywhere. Liberal democracy doesn't exist,

00:19:56.480 doesn't really take off until about 40 years ago.

00:19:58.500 So if liberal democracy is what America really is at her core, at her essence,

00:20:03.700 no one knew it until roughly four decades ago. The way that America conceived herself in the

00:20:11.480 beginning, the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist Papers, you don't see

00:20:16.480 that phrase liberal democracy. You don't see the phrase democracy all that much. Democracy does not

00:20:21.840 appear in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. It does appear in the Federalist Papers

00:20:26.820 a handful of times, always with disapproval. The founding fathers were very, very skeptical of

00:20:32.120 democracy. And the word liberal doesn't really appear. It doesn't appear in the Constitution,

00:20:36.120 doesn't appear in the Declaration of Independence. It appears in the Federalist, again, a handful of

00:20:40.480 times, but only in the sense of generous. You know, oh, he's a very liberal person. It's not referring

00:20:46.900 to any political philosophy or ideology. By contrast, the word nation appears in all three of the

00:20:54.020 documents. It appears in the Federalist Papers, I think, 569 times, always with approval. And then,

00:21:00.880 so at the physical aspect, you see, okay, America's a nation. And then what animates the nation? What's

00:21:06.060 the soul of the nation? It's not liberalism. If you go back to the founding documents, the founding

00:21:10.400 papers, it's Christianity. That's what John Adams says. John Adams says that the thing that united the

00:21:16.160 founding fathers, the thing that united the men who built the country, was the principles of

00:21:20.160 Christianity. That's it. Sometimes the libs like to quote this line that they pretend is from John

00:21:24.400 Adams. And they say, America is in no way founded on the Christian religion. That line comes from

00:21:28.800 the Treaty of Tripoli. That was signed by John Adams, but it was not written by John Adams. It was

00:21:33.380 written by the Jeffersonian Republican, Joel Barno, I think his name was. And it was just a diplomatic

00:21:39.900 document to placate the Muslim pirates who were abducting and enslaving American sailors. It was like a 0.89

00:21:46.260 ransom letter, basically. It wasn't a statement of philosophy or even really law. And John Adams,

00:21:50.840 when he was speaking freely and not trying to ransom back the sailors, directly contradicted the

00:21:55.000 Treaty of Tripoli. And we all know this. We know that America was a Christian nation going back to 0.99

00:21:59.280 its earliest days, 1620, the Mayflower. Why did the pilgrims set sail on the Mayflower? To establish

00:22:04.540 Christianity in the new world. Why did Governor Winthrop establish the Massachusetts Bay Colony?

00:22:09.940 You don't need to scratch your head. We know he told us because he gave us a speech in which he said

00:22:14.460 that America will be a shining city on a hill and a model of Christian charity. We see this in the

00:22:19.500 writings of the Founding Fathers. We see this later on in American history. We see this in the Francis

00:22:24.520 Scott Keyes poem. The Star-Spangled Banner is based on this poem called The Battle of Fort McHenry.

00:22:30.540 And the final stanza of it, no one ever remembers the stanza, but the final big conclusion of the poem

00:22:35.500 is, Oh, thus be it ever when free men shall stand between their loved home and the war's desolation.

00:22:40.760 Blessed with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land praise the power that hath

00:22:44.280 made and preserved us a nation. Then conquer we must when our cause is just, and this be our motto,

00:22:50.420 in God is our trust. And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave, or the land of the free and

00:22:54.960 the home of the brave. In God is our trust. So that poem became the national anthem. It was

00:23:02.080 authorized for military use in the late 19th century. It's acknowledged for official use by the White House

00:23:08.180 in 1916, I believe, and then established as the national anthem in 1931 with the approval of the

00:23:13.420 president as well. So with the Congress and the president. This is our national anthem. This is

00:23:18.280 our national motto, in God is our trust. Eisenhower added a version of that to the Pledge of Allegiance,

00:23:24.500 one nation under God. And we know that in God, in God we trust is on all of the US currency. Okay,

00:23:28.940 that's the animating principle. All a long way of saying, what is America? It's a Christian nation. 0.98

00:23:35.180 The body of America, it's not just an empire. It's not a city-state. The physical aspect of

00:23:42.260 America is a nation. Okay, that's what the founders established. And then the spiritual aspect,

00:23:48.340 the metaphysical aspect, the thing that animates the nation, just like the soul animates the body.

00:23:53.160 A body without a soul is dead. A nation without an animating principle is dead. The animating

00:23:57.700 principle is not liberalism. It's not secularism. It's not atheism. Traditionally, it's Christianity.

00:24:02.880 Christianity. That's what it is. It's just, I'm not even saying that's a good thing or a bad thing.

00:24:06.760 I obviously think it is a good thing. I'm just stating an historical fact that is irrefutable.

00:24:11.760 Okay? And now there's a major campaign underway to upend all of that. What the Libs want to do 0.99

00:24:17.120 is destroy America as a nation and open up its borders. A nation that doesn't have borders cannot

00:24:21.560 be a nation at all. They want to turn America into basically just a tax farm for a global empire

00:24:26.200 and make us all citizens of the world without any distinction between our people and other people.

00:24:31.180 But again, a nation that does not make any distinction between its own citizens and foreign

00:24:36.760 nationals is not a nation. There's nothing that distinguishes it as a nation. And then at the

00:24:42.720 metaphysical level, what the Democrats want to do is disestablish Christianity as the animating

00:24:48.160 principle of the country and establish atheism or secularism or leftism or whatever.

00:24:54.760 The consequences of that are terrible. The reason that the Libs are complaining about

00:24:58.460 Christian nationalism right now, I just gave a long talk on this at the National Conservative

00:25:01.640 Conference, which you can find on YouTube. The reason that the Democrats are losing their

00:25:05.840 minds over Christian nationalism is not because it's a departure from the American political

00:25:09.800 tradition. They're losing their minds over it because Christian nationalism is the American 0.82

00:25:14.660 political tradition. The Libs hate the American political tradition, and they're trying to upend

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00:27:00.080 Okay. What has happened to conservatives? We ask what has happened to the liberals. My bigger

00:27:10.620 question is what has happened to the conservatives? The way we talk, we sound today, American conservatives

00:27:17.620 send way more to the left than any of the libs or the radicals or the socialists did 10, 20,

00:27:24.160 30 years ago. How pathetic is that? Dr. Oz got me thinking about this because Dr. Oz right now is

00:27:31.200 campaigning as a Republican for Senate far to the left of Barack Obama just 10 years ago, 11 years

00:27:37.000 ago. But it's not just Dr. Oz. It's a lot of other Republicans too. How on earth did we get here?

00:27:43.480 Edmund Smirk, one of my favorite Twitter accounts, pseudonymous Twitter accounts,

00:27:47.200 called my attention to this. It is the radical feminist Catherine McKinnon back in 1993

00:27:52.920 discussing the issue of porn. Take a listen because she sounds far more right wing than 1.00

00:28:00.160 almost any conservative on this issue today. Those are actual acts. That isn't what quote

00:28:06.500 unquote offends somebody. Charlie, if you heard a woman screaming in the next room by being bounced

00:28:12.400 off walls by a man she lives with, are you offended? I mean, that isn't what you say to yourself.

00:28:20.180 You're experiencing the enactment of an abuse. You're witnessing it. You feel it. You hear

00:28:26.560 her scream. You think I've got to do something about this. I'm saying, I mean, that's what I

00:28:32.520 experience when I see pornography. A woman is being hurt here. She's being violated. She's being used.

00:28:41.040 And on top of it, I get to know that someone's enjoying this. I mean, on top of her humiliation,

00:28:49.920 there's going to be men experiencing their own sexuality and this being protected as a

00:28:56.220 constitutional right and called a form of entertainment. Let me get based. How can I,

00:29:02.100 how can I vote for that radical feminist? Because that radical feminist is much more right wing. 1.00

00:29:08.040 This radical left wing feminist, she's a leftist and she's Catherine McKinnon. Okay. 0.97

00:29:12.600 She is much more right wing on very important issues than pretty much any Republican today.

00:29:21.180 Pathetic represents a total failure, a total collapse of anything even resembling conservatism

00:29:26.780 over the last 30 years. And the point she's making is a really important one, even beyond porn,

00:29:34.020 even beyond porn. Because what she's saying is, look, if you were just sitting in your,

00:29:41.140 in your home and you heard your neighbor, there's some woman who's your neighbor making the sounds 1.00

00:29:46.560 that you would hear in lots of, if not most pornography, you'd probably rush over there and

00:29:52.580 you say, Hey, is everything, everything okay? Are you all right, lady? It sounds like you're being, 1.00

00:29:57.420 no, no. Okay. All right. Maybe, maybe she's okay, but maybe she's not.

00:30:00.120 Pornography can be very, you know, because pornography is appealing to your, your most

00:30:05.640 base sort of despicable fantasies, right? It's not, it's not appealing to your higher loves,

00:30:10.940 it's appealing to your lust. So it's, it is representing generally sort of abusive behavior.

00:30:17.900 You would be concerned about that. You would feel, even if you were just hearing it in real life,

00:30:21.120 you, you would, you would feel like you were somehow, you had an obligation to do something.

00:30:24.860 So why don't people feel that way with pornography? Pornography always represents an abuse,

00:30:30.900 even if it's not violent pornography. It is a woman being used, her, her not being treated as a full

00:30:37.380 human being, but just being used as a kind of slab of meat to appeal to the, to the basis desires of

00:30:43.060 the audience and being thrown out like trash and being paid very little. And everyone knows that

00:30:47.520 everyone's heard the horrible stories of abuse in the pornography industry. So why is it that you would

00:30:52.380 feel bad and sort of morally responsible if it were happening in the room next door, but you don't

00:30:56.380 feel bad and morally responsible when you're getting your jollies looking at it on a computer screen?

00:31:01.060 This is where the issue becomes much bigger than just pornography. Actually, you feel that when you

00:31:08.080 are, when you are experiencing life in, in a virtual world that you don't have moral responsibilities.

00:31:16.160 Oh, it's just online. You see this on Twitter, the way people talk to one another on Twitter

00:31:19.920 is, is wrong and, and impolite and frankly sinful. A lot of the time, you would never speak that way

00:31:27.140 to someone in real life, but you feel like you can speak that way to someone on the internet because

00:31:31.900 Twitter is not real life. Twitter is not real life. The internet's not real life. Porn is not real

00:31:37.220 life, except it actually is. It's life. You're there. You're there doing it. You are, you are responsible

00:31:44.820 for your actions, even in the virtual world. And we've got to resolve this issue right now because

00:31:49.520 we are going to be living more and more of our lives in the virtual world. We don't go shopping

00:31:53.920 that much anymore. We just click buttons online. We don't see our friends in person nearly as much

00:31:57.900 anymore. We do it online or on FaceTime or on our phones or on chat or on text. We don't, we don't

00:32:04.140 get married and have sex as much anymore. You can see those numbers plummeting. What do we do instead?

00:32:08.480 Instead, we sext, we, well, I don't, okay? I'm not sexting anybody, but I'm not doing,

00:32:13.460 listen, I'm married, I'm a happily married man, okay? But what do, what do young people do? The 0.71

00:32:17.560 ones who are not getting married, the ones who are not, the ones who statistically aren't even

00:32:20.700 having sex anymore. What are they doing? They're living their lives online and they're having this

00:32:24.720 virtual connection. And so then if we have, if we believe that we don't have any moral responsibilities

00:32:32.920 in the virtual realm, then we're just throwing morality out the window in terms of how we treat

00:32:39.120 our coworkers, in terms of how we treat our family and our friends, in terms of how we treat, yes,

00:32:44.100 the issue of sex, in terms of how we treat our countrymen, in terms of, you are morally responsible

00:32:50.020 for these things. You are, you are doing it. Whether you want to pretend like your body doesn't matter at

00:32:54.720 all. Like you're just, it's only an intellectual action. It's only a, an action that's happening in

00:32:59.880 your mind. But you have responsibility for that as well, okay? I can't believe that, that the, the,

00:33:08.140 the radical feminists are much smarter on this point than the conservatives are. Conservatives got 1.00

00:33:14.380 to wise up, got to wise up on this because this is the future. As we move ever closer toward the

00:33:19.340 metaverse, you are going to want to make sure that we recognize the moral responsibility that we all

00:33:26.300 have toward ourselves and toward each other, whether it's in Oculus or whether it's in real life.

00:33:31.960 Because it's all real life. It's all real life, whether it, no matter how much it involves your

00:33:35.620 body, it is real life. Speaking of women and sex, Nancy Pelosi is coming out strongly in favor of 1.00

00:33:43.740 abortion ahead of the midterms. There is a conflict within the Republican Party. There are those in the

00:33:49.820 party that think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before. And, and, and, and these

00:33:56.120 people are in defiance of that, right? They're in defiance of that because they're saying whatever

00:34:02.220 they're saying about it. So that's, that's what you're seeing there. But we are united in our support

00:34:08.740 for women's right to choose. 1.00

00:34:10.760 Ha ha ha. Okay. That's a funny line. These Republicans, they think that life begins, you know,

00:34:15.900 at the candlelit dinner before you go. It's so crazy. These crazy Republicans, every sperm is

00:34:22.540 sacred. Like what was a Monty Python used to sing, except Republicans don't really believe that life

00:34:29.380 begins at the candlelit dinner. They don't believe that life begins at the level of the gonads or the

00:34:37.120 sperm or the egg. They say that life begins at conception. This is the real holdup for the Democrats

00:34:43.180 on all these kinds of silly lines. Obviously life begins at conception. That's the definition of

00:34:51.020 conception. That's why there's a word for it. Conception refers to the beginning of life when

00:34:57.060 it is conceived. So no, it's, it's pretty clear. And no matter what sort of debates people want to

00:35:04.140 have about abortion, the Democrats can never get past this, this fact. And so they've got to just have

00:35:10.700 these kind of glib jokes and these dismissals and oh, nevermind. And these distractions and nothing

00:35:17.100 to see here. They're trying to do it on, on the immigration issue as well. Oh no, this is human

00:35:23.080 trafficking. This is awful what they're doing. But then there's the obvious next step, which is,

00:35:28.960 well, hold on, you're, you're doing the same thing at a, not just a slightly higher scale,

00:35:33.140 at many orders of magnitude, higher scale. So what we can't, we can't get past that.

00:35:40.040 Sometimes these issues are really, really simple. When does life begin? Life begins at conception.

00:35:43.780 That's the definition. Well, what's, what's wrong with illegal immigration? Illegal immigration is 0.81

00:35:48.340 illegal. It's not that complicated. Okay. Why can't the foreigners do whatever they want in America? 0.95

00:35:54.380 Because they're not citizens because citizens are citizens. And there's a clear, there are really

00:35:58.300 clear distinctions to be had here, folks. And the Democrats can giggle and be glib, but because 0.92

00:36:03.920 they have no arguments here, ultimately they've just got to suppress the debate on this and attack

00:36:10.060 their political opponents as a matter of rhetoric and physically increasingly as well. You know,

00:36:15.000 our mailbag is sponsored by Pure Talk. Go to puretalk.com, select a plan, enter promo code

00:36:20.960 NOLSPODCAST to get one month for free. Let's get to the voice mailbag. First question.

00:36:26.320 Michael, I am a adjunct professor at two colleges in California. And, uh, I want to know how you

00:36:35.180 would handle this one in an interview. Uh, I was asked the question of how do you deal with your

00:36:41.680 white privilege and being a middle-aged white male, I'm just wondering how would you handle that

00:36:49.860 question? Thank you. How do I deal with my white privilege? Well, I worked as hard as I could to do,

00:36:58.220 to do as well as I could on the SAT because I knew that in college admissions I would be

00:37:03.660 discriminated against, uh, because of my white privilege. Uh, I, uh, made sure that I watched

00:37:11.300 every single word that I ever said because I knew that if I ever said anything that could be in any way,

00:37:16.960 even implausibly misinterpreted as somehow racist, I knew that my entire life could be ruined because

00:37:23.380 of my, uh, white privilege. I, uh, made sure that, uh, when I was insulted by the entire culture and by

00:37:31.800 the state and by the government because of my, uh, skin color, I made sure never to, you know,

00:37:37.960 speak up too loudly against that because I knew that that would somehow paradoxically be called

00:37:43.400 racist as well. And, uh, then, then my life could be ruined for it. So how did I deal with my white

00:37:49.200 privilege, you know, with the spirit of resignation and the recognition that suffering can be a

00:37:54.200 sanctifying fact? I guess that's how, that's how one deals with white privilege these days, as we all

00:38:00.320 should deal with the various difficulties that one faces in life. You know, a spirit of resignation,

00:38:05.040 kiss it up to God, try to make things a little bit better and don't complain. Next question.

00:38:09.300 Hello, Michael. This is, uh, Eduardo Hernandez. I'm calling from Puerto Rico. Uh, I'm a medical

00:38:17.840 doctor. I'm a conservative because not everybody over here are crazy lefty lunatics, uh, who think

00:38:26.820 the world runs on rainbows and good intentions. Uh, I wanted to introduce you to the Dunn and Kruger

00:38:35.800 effect. See if you ever heard about it, if you know about it and what do you think about the

00:38:44.240 whole concept and how can you relate it to current politics? I'm very interested in listening to you

00:38:52.160 about this and I wanted to say hello to big fan. All right. Great question. Yes, I am familiar to

00:38:59.540 some degree with the Dunn and Kruger effect. As I understand it, the Dunn and Kruger effect is this

00:39:04.340 warping of self-perception such that people who are at the low end of skill or intelligence or aptitude

00:39:12.140 tend to overestimate their skill and intelligence and aptitude. And also that people at the high end

00:39:20.140 of skill and intelligence and aptitude tend to, uh, underestimate how skilled and smart they are at

00:39:27.500 certain things. Uh, and what do I think of it? I think it's obviously true. This is obviously true.

00:39:34.320 We all know this in our daily lives, right? It's always the people who are the most strident

00:39:39.840 yelling, you know, not only can they not change their minds, but they can't even change the subject.

00:39:44.260 Those people are the ones who tend to, to utterly dismiss anything that anyone has to say other than

00:39:50.940 themselves. Those people tend to be a little bit dumber, right? And those people tend to be more

00:39:55.520 ignorant. Uh, uh, uh, a wiser, uh, way to operate in the world would be one of humility to recognize

00:40:03.540 that every man is my master. Every man is my teacher. I can learn something from, from everybody

00:40:07.440 on earth. That's obviously true. And I've, I've seen the other side of it too. People who are

00:40:11.820 some of the most intelligent, capable people I've ever met do tend to be not only humble, which is good.

00:40:19.300 You want to cultivate a spirit of humility, but do actually sometimes vastly underestimate

00:40:24.020 their, uh, their skill and intelligence. That's certainly true. But it's, you see,

00:40:29.420 it's much more common in the first sense that dumb people tend to think they're a lot smarter than they

00:40:33.740 are to oversimplify it. And it's, it's really dangerous. There's, there's that great bit of

00:40:39.840 advice, which is that it's better to be silent and thought to be an idiot rather than to open your

00:40:46.900 mouth and prove it. And it's, and it's another thing. I remember it pretty distinctly in my early

00:40:53.860 twenties. This happened to me a little bit in college, but really in my early twenties, I had this

00:41:01.260 bomb go off in my head where I was reading a lot. You know, I try to read at night, have a cigar,

00:41:07.200 and as I'm reading just these kinds of different smatterings of books, I realized that I don't

00:41:13.120 know anything and it's not false modesty. It's just a little dose of humility. I realized, oh my

00:41:21.200 gosh, not only do I, I know statistically nothing, but I, I only have even a hint of an inkling of,

00:41:32.860 of how little I don't know. You know, the kind of Don Rumsfeld known knowns, known unknowns and

00:41:41.080 unknown unknowns. The unknown unknowns are the scariest one because when you know what you know,

00:41:45.760 that's fine. It's usually pretty small amount of things. And then the known unknowns, you can say,

00:41:50.440 okay, well, I know that there was such a thing as welding. I just don't know how to do it, but I know

00:41:53.860 that they're okay. And then unknown unknowns would be, it's the largest category of all. It's all the

00:42:00.820 things that you don't know that you don't even know that you don't know. And so a spirit of humility

00:42:04.780 is very important. If for no other reason, then at least you won't look like such a dummy. Okay,

00:42:09.740 next one. Michael, in relation to your interview the other day with the Fox News host who got fired

00:42:18.240 for not taking the vaccine, it made me wonder about something my friends talk about quite frequently

00:42:25.680 who are super conservative. And that's about controlled opposition. I hear this pointed at

00:42:31.380 Fox News a lot, especially because of them calling Florida, but I've even heard it levied at Daily Wire

00:42:37.700 and Ben Shapiro by more, we'll call them rabid conservatives. Can you give me your take on

00:42:44.040 controlled opposition and what that means and who the players are in our modern society who could be that?

00:42:52.120 Absolutely. It's a really, really good question. There are two kinds of controlled opposition.

00:42:59.780 The one version of controlled opposition is that there's a shadowy cabal of five people in a room

00:43:05.340 who just pick up the phone and they say, tell this person not to say that or tell this person to do

00:43:10.280 that or whatever. It kind of goes down the chain and then that's what happens. I'm not saying that

00:43:15.960 has never happened anywhere. The reason that conspiracy theories can gain ground is because

00:43:22.020 there are conspiracies. So I'm not saying that that doesn't happen a lot. But the much more

00:43:25.920 prevalent version of controlled opposition is not really guided by any one person at all. It's guided

00:43:32.900 by a structure and a system in which there are incentives and disincentives to raising certain

00:43:38.860 ideas or making certain arguments. And so a really good example of this would be social media, right?

00:43:46.900 On social media, you can say certain things and you can't say certain things. And you remember this

00:43:53.300 during COVID, right? During COVID, there were moments where I had episodes of my show taken down

00:43:58.560 because I said true things, perfectly unobjectionable true things that the prevailing ruling class would not

00:44:06.240 tolerate. And so they took my show down on the biggest social media platforms in the country.

00:44:09.840 Fortunately, I have the Daily Wire. And so I could say on the show, okay, this is being censored here.

00:44:14.500 We'd sometimes put a censorship bar over it, but go on over to Daily Wire, you get the full story,

00:44:18.620 which I think would be some evidence that we are not controlled opposition at the Daily Wire. But

00:44:22.980 we're subject to the same forces, the same incentives and disincentives as anybody else.

00:44:28.180 And so the important thing here is to give yourself more leverage such that you're not at the

00:44:34.680 whims and the mercy of that ruling structure, okay? And so this is something Daily Wire has tried to do

00:44:41.380 very intentionally. We are trying to build an entirely separate ecosystem. That's why we're

00:44:48.600 selling razors. That's why we're making movies. That's why we're increasingly sending people over

00:44:52.560 to become members on the Daily Wire, because then we are less vulnerable to the forces of this kind of

00:44:57.360 superstructure that tries to shrink the Overton window and move the realm of acceptable discourse

00:45:03.140 very far to the left, okay? And that's what we have to do. You've got to be able to have your

00:45:08.760 own platform. Ideally, you've got to be able to have your own servers in case, let's say,

00:45:12.960 Amazon Web Services wants to take you down. You've got to be able to have your own wealth

00:45:17.060 so that you can fight back, so that you can't be just absolutely crushed by much more powerful and

00:45:23.220 wealthy and better financed forces, right? It's much more complicated. So when you're talking

00:45:30.780 about a cable news channel, yeah, cable news is, one, I think a lot of the cable news channels

00:45:35.760 intentionally don't want to promote particularly conservative content. But also, they're very

00:45:42.380 firmly within a superstructure that won't permit them to either. That's why we need alternatives.

00:45:47.060 Next question.

00:45:48.400 Hello, Mr. Knowles. Hope you're doing well. I got a question here for you.

00:45:52.900 What if we made a punishment worse than the death penalty? Now, I bring this question to you

00:45:58.340 because in a previous voicemail bag, you were kind of talking about how if we made the punishment

00:46:03.340 for rape and murder the same, the death penalty, for example, then the rapist would have an incentive

00:46:10.080 to kill the victim, which would be horrible. So we said, okay, you know, we're not going to do that.

00:46:14.500 We're going to have a lesser punishment for rape and then a worse punishment for murder.

00:46:19.640 I think this makes sense. However, I think there's a better solution. So here it is.

00:46:23.980 What if we keep rape at the death penalty and created a worse punishment for murder? 0.88

00:46:32.580 Now, what would this entail? I would say, is torture on the books? Is that something that we

00:46:39.980 could do? You know, of course, we would have to throw away the cruel and unusual punishment clause,

00:46:44.980 but I don't know. Maybe it's something worth to consider. Appreciate it.

00:46:49.180 Fair enough suggestion, but I would not consider it too strongly. One, because you would have to

00:46:55.880 amend the constitution, as you say, to get rid of cruel and unusual punishment prohibitions,

00:47:00.680 which I think would be virtually impossible and ill-advised. But two, because torture does not

00:47:12.340 seem to jive very well with justice. You know, the reason that we execute certain criminals and the

00:47:17.160 reason we punish all criminals, there are three reasons. There is the deterrent effect, there is

00:47:21.940 the rehabilitative effect, and then there is retribution, retributive justice. All of which is

00:47:27.720 a little different than, say, vengeance or a sort of vindictive infliction of pain. Okay? And so you've

00:47:37.680 got two scenarios here. To preserve an incentive for rapists not to kill their victims, you could say,

00:47:45.580 all right, we're going to kill the murderers and we're going to give life in prison or a long prison

00:47:50.260 sentence to rapists or castration to rapists. Or you say, we're going to kill the rapists and we're

00:47:55.420 going to draw and quarter the murderers. I think life in prison and castration for rapists would be

00:48:05.640 sufficient. I don't think that I would upend the constitution and institute a regime of torture

00:48:11.580 just to squeeze a little more punishment out of people who commit bad crimes. Okay, one last

00:48:16.640 written question before we get to the member block from Daniel. Michael, my wife and I got married

00:48:22.300 earlier this summer. We're still in that wonderful honeymoon phase. My question is this. In your

00:48:25.920 marriage, how do you go about deciding which arguments you are willing to contend with and

00:48:29.540 which ones you will let go? On one hand, I don't want to constantly argue about everything. On the

00:48:33.220 other, I don't want to be one of those cuckold husbands who don't stand up for what they believe is

00:48:37.020 right. I think there's a pretty big gray area between the foundational questions, openness to children,

00:48:41.080 raising the family and the faith, versus the trivial, which movie to watch, what to have for

00:48:44.840 dinner, etc. But where do you draw the line? How do you make the distinction? Any other marital

00:48:48.300 advice for a young couple would be welcome. Thanks. I would be really traditional about this. I would 0.98

00:48:52.940 throw feminism out the window and you'll have a much better life. So the way that we do it, 1.00

00:48:57.640 sweet little Lisa and I, is I do reluctantly act as the head of household. And usually she has to 1.00

00:49:04.720 prod me to do it. We'll be saying, where do you want to go to dinner? You want Chinese? I don't 1.00

00:49:09.120 know. You want Italian? I don't know. You want Mexican? And she'll say to me, Mac, you're the head 0.93

00:49:12.300 of household Genesis 3. Make a decision. Let's go. You know, same thing with watching a movie or

00:49:16.220 whatever. Because men generally don't really want to be tyrants, you know, insisting on their will

00:49:20.900 all the time. Men generally want to sit on the couch and eat potato chips and not have to make 0.96

00:49:24.120 decisions. But the way it's set up, you know, if you're a Christian, then, you know, you're the man 0.78

00:49:29.520 is the head of the household. And so practically speaking, we hash out all of the questions. I don't

00:49:35.120 just, this especially happens with decorations in our home. I really care a lot about aesthetics.

00:49:40.940 And so we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it at length and come to a kind of, no, I don't think

00:49:44.480 this is good. No, I think this looks more beautiful. No, this color is better. We'll hash it out.

00:49:49.060 Ultimately, if we really come to an impasse, I will make a decision. Very often I defer to my wife.

00:49:55.360 Sometimes I don't defer to my wife, okay? As a practical matter on most decisions,

00:49:59.860 certainly within the home and a lot within the family, I defer to my wife entirely.

00:50:05.120 But I think if you still have that structure of the man as the head of the household, it makes it,

00:50:09.080 it makes things much clearer and more orderly. Okay, the rest of the show is continuing now.

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00:50:19.000 you've got to click the link in the description and join us. We have not only some more questions

00:50:22.600 from you because it will do a little bit of an extended mailbag, thanks to it being Friday,

00:50:25.960 but we've also got the fake headlines. So my producers have come up with five headlines of the week

00:50:32.740 that they believe I have not seen. One of them is fake. You and I have to guess which the fake one

00:50:38.240 is. Okay, we'll see you over at the member block.

00:50:39.660 I'll see you over at the member block.

The Michael Knowles Show - September 16, 2022

Ep. 1089 - Diversity Is Not Martha’s Vineyard's Strength

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