The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 1125 - Democrats Finally Found Enough Votes To Win!


Summary

Democrat Catherine Cortez Masto defeats Republican Adam Laxalt in a close Senate race in Nevada, and she's not even counting all the ballots yet. What could be the reason why it took so long for the vote to be counted?


Transcript

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00:00:37.700 Over the weekend, on day five of counting the ballots, Democrats claimed victory in both the Nevada and Arizona Senate races,
00:00:47.060 giving them control of the Senate no matter what happens in the upcoming Georgia runoff.
00:00:52.380 There's lots to be said about those races and all the things that could have been done differently.
00:00:58.160 But before we get into any of that, in the spirit of bipartisanship,
00:01:01.940 I would just like to congratulate the Democrats on finding the votes that they needed in under a week this time.
00:01:09.200 Just four days of counting ballots in the most crucial races is a big improvement over the last election.
00:01:16.200 And it's a sign that by next time, they might even be able to fit all of their machine malfunctions and security camera outages into just three days.
00:01:25.780 Who knows?
00:01:26.560 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:01:27.460 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:28.520 Welcome back to the show.
00:01:37.260 My favorite comment on Friday is from Leo Liovich, who says,
00:01:41.520 Arizona, 7 million people, takes three weeks to count the ballots.
00:01:45.740 Florida, 21 million people, takes one day to count the ballots.
00:01:50.080 They better start teaching them to count over 100 in the Arizona schools.
00:01:55.000 The problem is, I think they do teach them how to count in Arizona.
00:01:58.700 I think that those Arizona Democrats know how to count real well.
00:02:02.840 And that actually is the reason why it took so long for them to count.
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00:03:27.060 Pretty weird stuff out there in Nevada.
00:03:29.820 Really disappointing and kind of really makes you scratch your head.
00:03:33.660 Because the race went from plus 2% for the Republican Adam Laxalt with only 20% of the vote left to count all the way to plus 0.5% for Catherine Cortez Masto, the Democrat.
00:03:51.520 So that means that every single precinct, just about, that was counted later, where all those ballots came in later, pretty much all of them broke very, very heavily for the Democrat.
00:04:07.460 Incredibly heavily, you might say.
00:04:09.180 Now, it's a little weird, too, when you look at the breakdown between the Senate race there in Nevada and the governor's race in Nevada, because what you see there is that more people voted in the Senate race than in the governor's race.
00:04:25.920 It's kind of weird to think that someone would walk into a ballot box, well, I guess we don't do that anymore, but that someone would fill out a mail-in ballot and then only vote in the Senate race and not vote in the governor's race.
00:04:37.480 That would be kind of weird.
00:04:38.740 It's also kind of weird that 16,000 people might vote for Catherine Cortez Masto, the Senate candidate, that would not vote for Sisolak, the governor candidate.
00:04:49.760 That's kind of weird.
00:04:50.340 It's also kind of weird that the live stream cameras covering the vote counting areas in Washoe County in Nevada just went down in the middle of the night.
00:05:01.020 They went completely dark from 11.24 p.m. on the night of November 9th all the way until 7.53 a.m. on the morning of November 10th.
00:05:11.940 Just coincidentally right there in the middle of the night, right while they're in the heat of counting all of those votes.
00:05:17.280 It's kind of weird, don't you think?
00:05:18.760 Don't you think that's just a little bit weird?
00:05:23.560 But you're not allowed to say that, you see, because if you raise any questions whatsoever about these votes that take a long, long time to count with all these kinds of weird irregularities and the voting machines break in Arizona and then the security cameras break in Nevada and then the numbers are kind of implausible actually.
00:05:43.100 If you raise any of those questions, if you raise any of those questions, you are, of course, an election denier.
00:05:51.220 Ooh, spooky.
00:05:53.280 So I made this point.
00:05:55.120 On Twitter, I said, the longer it takes to tally the votes, the less inclined you ought to be to believe the results.
00:06:03.840 This is pretty basic stuff, folks.
00:06:06.760 This is the kind of stuff that Barack Obama said 10 years ago.
00:06:10.860 This is the kind of stuff that both parties used to agree on.
00:06:13.640 And the tweet went viral because it's true and people know that it's true.
00:06:17.300 And then once these results came in, it's just amazing how whenever it's a real nail-biter, it takes a long time to count.
00:06:22.760 And for some reason, it seems almost always to go to the Democrat in those cases.
00:06:27.200 And so I joked, as I joked in my monologue, I said, you know, congratulations to the Democrats on finding the number of votes they needed in a shorter period of time this time.
00:06:36.840 And a lot of people thought this was kind of funny.
00:06:38.960 It's either laugh or cry, I guess.
00:06:40.800 There's a man, Ian Bremmer, who is basically the voice of the liberal establishment.
00:06:47.120 He's one of the great exemplars of the liberal establishment, especially on foreign policy, but on domestic policy as well.
00:06:56.120 And Ian Bremmer retweeted my post and said, thankfully, hard to find active election deniers post-midterms, but still a few out there, like me, I guess, because I'm pointing out that it's a little weird how the election was conducted in Nevada and Arizona.
00:07:14.160 I'm not raising questions, by the way, about Pennsylvania.
00:07:18.020 I wish we didn't have the mail-in ballots.
00:07:20.280 I mean, there are certain things we still need to do to tighten up election integrity.
00:07:23.660 But I'm not raising questions about a whole bunch of states.
00:07:28.080 I'm raising questions about the states where they seem to have those malfunctions, and it seems to take a really long time to count all the votes.
00:07:34.360 The sort of states where, if they were foreign countries, the U.S. State Department would be now running an investigation into the subversion of democracy.
00:07:42.240 If it took Argentina or Iraq, the amount of time to tally the votes that it's taking Nevada and Arizona, there would be calls from the U.N., from the U.S. State Department, for an investigation because of a subversion of democracy.
00:07:58.020 But because it's happening in our own country, we just turn a blind eye because it benefits the Democrats.
00:08:01.860 So anyway, I point this out, and Ian Bremmer calls me an election denier.
00:08:06.680 Here, nobody who uses the phrase election denier in earnest is to be taken seriously.
00:08:16.820 It's one of those phrases that is simply used as a cudgel to club people over the head, to club your political opponents over the head.
00:08:25.820 The Democrats are very good at this kind of rhetoric, and this is one of those phrases.
00:08:29.700 The phrase election denier was established and is propagated to call to mind Holocaust deniers.
00:08:40.840 It's kind of a weird phrase to call someone a denier of anything.
00:08:44.460 That's the point.
00:08:45.160 That's why they also say climate denier now.
00:08:47.640 If you don't think that the sun monster is going to kill all of mankind in 10 years, well, Ocasio-Cortez made that prediction like four years ago.
00:08:55.620 So now we're down to what, six years, eight years?
00:08:59.000 I don't know.
00:09:00.160 But if you question that thesis, you're not called a skeptic.
00:09:03.920 You're not called a rational person, as you should be.
00:09:06.800 You're called an election denier.
00:09:08.720 And the whole point is to draw a comparison to Holocaust deniers.
00:09:12.600 So I think this is very silly.
00:09:15.520 It's also especially silly because the Democrats are the ones who have been rejecting the results of elections.
00:09:21.080 Republicans, much longer than Republicans, with much less of a reason to do so, and in many more cases than the Republicans are doing that.
00:09:31.700 Nobody has faith in the electoral system that we currently have.
00:09:35.760 Nobody has faith in it.
00:09:37.340 The Democrats don't have faith in it because they accuse Republicans of suppressing the vote.
00:09:42.800 And furthermore, because the Democrats don't believe that we are legitimate participants in our sacred democracy.
00:09:47.640 They say that we're fascists and terrorists and a domestic threat, and we're threatening the whole country by our very existence.
00:09:54.180 That's why the Democrats don't accept the election results when we win.
00:09:58.080 We don't accept some of the election results when they win, sometimes because they rig the elections and brag about it in Time magazine.
00:10:07.460 And they're allowed to say that, and that's really good.
00:10:09.660 And they're allowed to brag about it in their magazines.
00:10:11.460 The moment that we bring it up, though, with any kind of criticism, that, of course, is unacceptable, and we're election deniers and we're threat to our democracy.
00:10:18.760 So what's going on in the House?
00:10:20.040 The House right now is still up in the air.
00:10:22.980 The Senate, the Democrats took it.
00:10:24.480 It took them four days, but they figured out how to keep the Senate.
00:10:27.040 Now the House of Representatives is up in the air.
00:10:28.900 It's going to come down to some races, probably in California.
00:10:31.200 There is some maybe good news, which is that Lauren Boebert's district in Colorado, I like Lauren a lot.
00:10:37.640 She's a friend of mine.
00:10:38.360 She's a conservative.
00:10:39.700 Lauren is up a little bit over her Democrat challenger, Adam Frisch.
00:10:45.280 This very likely will come down to a recount.
00:10:47.260 The recount could take weeks, so don't hold your breath.
00:10:51.320 And then the control of the House will very likely come down to some California races.
00:10:56.940 We're looking in Orange County at Katie Porter, Democrat, Mike Levin, Democrat.
00:11:03.420 They're holding on to slim leads there in Orange County.
00:11:06.420 Ventura County's 26th District, Representative Julia Brownlee was reelected.
00:11:13.020 The Republican, Matt Jacobs, had made kind of a move, might have threatened her, but that went to her.
00:11:18.640 Then we've got, well, we've got California's 13th congressional district.
00:11:22.460 That's going to be a tight one.
00:11:24.520 There's the 22nd.
00:11:25.720 That's a tight one.
00:11:26.380 So anyway, there's just a lot of races.
00:11:28.680 And if we're waiting for California to, you know, give us a great hope of a Republican country, then probably we're going to be waiting a very, very long time.
00:11:37.600 I can't help but notice, can't help but notice that when we talk about the red wave and why didn't the red wave materialize?
00:11:45.400 The red wave did materialize in some states.
00:11:50.020 Materialized in Florida, that's for sure.
00:11:51.940 Now, a lot of people are saying, well, it materialized in Florida because of the leadership of Ron DeSantis.
00:11:56.120 No doubt there's a lot of truth to that.
00:11:58.060 But it didn't only materialize in Florida.
00:12:00.380 It materialized in Texas.
00:12:02.400 It materialized in Ohio.
00:12:05.060 It materialized, I can't help but notice, in the places that, after the last election, took election integrity seriously.
00:12:16.020 So, yeah, you can give a lot of credit to Ron DeSantis for that.
00:12:18.880 Forget about all the other things DeSantis has done.
00:12:21.160 He took election integrity seriously.
00:12:22.920 He tightened up the election rules.
00:12:24.420 They did the same thing in Texas.
00:12:26.000 They did the same thing in Ohio.
00:12:27.400 You got to wonder, had they tightened up the election rules, made it a little less prone to fraud in places like Arizona, like Nevada, would we have seen that red wave trickle out in the way that we did?
00:12:43.380 Is it really, the consensus narrative right now is the right wing conservative candidates are just not playing very well.
00:12:51.580 We need to go very squishy and moderate, and Trump is really bad, and we need to just become the party of Mitt Romney again.
00:12:57.720 That's the consensus narrative, certainly on the left, but in certain quarters of the right as well.
00:13:03.400 I don't think that is really borne out by the facts.
00:13:05.660 Look what happened in Florida.
00:13:07.380 Look what happened in Texas.
00:13:08.880 Look at Ohio.
00:13:09.620 For goodness sakes, J.D. Vance was running as an extraordinarily Trumpian candidate in Ohio.
00:13:14.340 I don't think that was necessarily the takeaway.
00:13:17.540 I think the takeaway is probably the advice that FDR gave to LBJ.
00:13:24.520 When LBJ lost one of his first political races, FDR said, you did a great job campaigning, but you forgot to sit on the ballot box.
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00:15:02.880 The establishment line on the midterm elections is that it's totally Trump's fault, and Trump needs to go.
00:15:08.580 Here you have it from longtime GOP pollster Frank Luntz.
00:15:12.080 When he's attacking the next generation of Republican leadership, mark my words, the party's going to turn against him.
00:15:19.320 And the angrier he gets at other conservative Republicans, the more that they're going to punish him with a loss of support and a loss of faith and confidence in his message and what he brings through the political process.
00:15:34.300 If I were advising him right now, I would tell him to take a very long vacation, simply disappear for the next 30 days because he's destroying himself every single day by attacking Ron DeSantis, Glenn Youngkin, people who other Republicans respect and appreciate and voted for in big numbers in the previous elections.
00:15:59.160 You might agree with that advice.
00:16:02.240 You might disagree with that advice.
00:16:04.300 Regardless, though, the problem is that Frank Luntz, having been around for a very long time in GOP politics, having close associations with the more establishment leadership in the House of Representatives especially, but in the whole GOP, he doesn't have a ton of credibility here.
00:16:23.820 When people like Frank Luntz attack Donald Trump or even sort of concern troll and say, listen, I'm really worried about you, sir.
00:16:31.720 You need to stop doing what you're doing.
00:16:33.060 You need to stop attacking your primary rivals.
00:16:36.500 You need to just kind of go away for a little while.
00:16:38.800 When people like Frank Luntz do that, it doesn't carry any weight because Frank Luntz has not liked Donald Trump from the beginning and represents a part of the GOP that Donald Trump came in to destroy.
00:16:53.280 When Donald Trump came in in 2015, that was a hostile takeover of the GOP.
00:17:00.020 When people said, Donald Trump's not a real Republican, Trump's answer and the answer of his supporters was, you're damn right.
00:17:06.520 That's the point.
00:17:07.220 I'm not a regular Republican.
00:17:10.160 That's why I'm doing so well.
00:17:11.840 You're seeing similar attacks from the lieutenant governor in Virginia.
00:17:16.060 It's Winsome Sears, the lieutenant governor to Glenn Youngkin, is going out on TV now, especially after Donald Trump came out and attacked her boss and ticket mate Glenn Youngkin.
00:17:26.520 And Winsome Sears says it's time for the party to move past Donald Trump.
00:17:30.420 When we look at the mission and as a Marine, we're looking at the mission and, you know, the voters have spoken and they have said that they want a different leader and a true leader understands when they have become a liability, a true leader understands that it's time to step off the stage.
00:17:50.820 And the voters have given us that very clear message.
00:17:54.500 So does that apply within the Republican Party, Lieutenant Governor, to Donald Trump?
00:17:59.720 That it's time to step off the stage.
00:18:03.500 Yes, a house divided against itself cannot stand.
00:18:07.640 And and indeed, that's where we are today.
00:18:10.140 And as I said before, America is the prize.
00:18:13.060 Why do we want to win elections?
00:18:15.480 It's because we've got to learn to love to love each other, live together, govern together.
00:18:22.000 And the voters are saying enough is enough.
00:18:25.640 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:18:27.260 Why do we want to win elections?
00:18:29.720 So we can all sort of just kumbaya together.
00:18:33.240 That's why that's not why I want to win elections.
00:18:35.400 Yes, I do want to love one another.
00:18:37.940 Yes, I do want to take care of our fellow citizens.
00:18:41.940 And the way we're going to do that is not by, you know, getting together in a drum circle and passing the peace pipe and just coming together.
00:18:49.580 That will be a consequence of conservative government.
00:18:55.200 We want to win elections so that we can have conservative government.
00:19:01.420 And we can suppress the bad stuff that the libs are doing.
00:19:04.480 And we can enact the good stuff.
00:19:06.780 And we can suppress falsehood.
00:19:08.400 And we can promote truth.
00:19:09.720 And we can suppress ugliness and promote beauty.
00:19:12.160 I don't want to win just so we can all just kind of get along, man.
00:19:15.600 I want to win so that we can win, so that we can do stuff.
00:19:18.580 The purpose of winning is not just so that we can have some R's in office and they can get invited to the cocktail parties.
00:19:24.840 The purpose of winning is not to say, okay, that's the end of the fight.
00:19:29.520 But that's the beginning of the fight.
00:19:31.040 To wield government power with justice within proper limits in a very moral way.
00:19:36.920 To do good, to actually do stuff, okay, and not to just maintain this desiccated liberal status quo.
00:19:44.540 This is why when people hear this kind of stuff from Winsome Sears, and Winsome Sears has an impressive record in many ways.
00:19:51.620 Not saying she's the number one star in the GOP.
00:19:53.820 She's going to be running for president in 2024.
00:19:55.480 But she's got an impressive background.
00:19:58.040 And winning that race with Glenn Youngkin in Virginia was a very important thing.
00:20:02.320 Especially because it's a purple commonwealth.
00:20:04.180 But I think when voters hear from kind of regular run-of-the-mill politicians, which compared to Donald Trump, everybody is a regular run-of-the-mill politician.
00:20:15.920 When they hear the stuff of, we just need to come together, you know, we just need to kumbaya.
00:20:20.320 They reject that.
00:20:21.580 They recoil from that.
00:20:22.740 Because I think, no, I don't want to.
00:20:23.940 We kumbaya-ed for a long time.
00:20:25.580 We kumbaya-ed with Romney.
00:20:27.100 We kumbaya-ed with John McCain.
00:20:29.720 We kumbaya-ed with John Boehner.
00:20:31.800 We kumbaya-ed with all these people who sold our country out and basically just conceded on every major fight to the Democrats.
00:20:41.660 It's not that there are no legitimate criticisms of Donald Trump.
00:20:46.260 It's not that there are no legitimate arguments for Trump even in 2024.
00:20:50.520 Arguments against his running.
00:20:52.220 But attacks from people who are viewed as opposed to him from the very beginning are going to do nothing other than boost support for Trump.
00:21:03.900 Case in point, Larry Hogan.
00:21:06.980 Larry Hogan, governor of Maryland, says Donald Trump lost us the midterms and so he's got to go away.
00:21:13.760 Look, this should have been a huge red wave.
00:21:19.260 It should have been one of the biggest red waves we've ever had.
00:21:22.080 Because, you know, President Biden's approval rating was so low, one of the lowest historically.
00:21:28.640 More than 70% of the people thought the country was going in the wrong direction.
00:21:32.900 And yet we still didn't perform.
00:21:34.320 And I think common sense conservatives that focused on talking about issues people cared about, like the economy and crime and education, they did win.
00:21:43.700 But people who tried to relitigate the 2020 election and focused on conspiracy theories and talked about things the voters didn't care about, they were almost universally rejected.
00:21:54.780 And I think it's basically the third election in a row that Donald Trump has cost us the race.
00:22:00.780 And it's like, you know, three strikes, you're out.
00:22:02.440 Okay, that's an argument.
00:22:05.340 That's an argument that you're going to hear repeated a lot.
00:22:08.340 The problem for that argument is the people who are making it.
00:22:14.800 Because no conservative in America cares what Larry Hogan thinks about anything.
00:22:20.940 Larry Hogan is a big lib.
00:22:23.020 So no one cares.
00:22:24.980 He comes from the Romney wing of the party.
00:22:26.860 And so anyone that you're trying to persuade with that argument is not going to be persuaded by Larry Hogan.
00:22:34.940 Okay.
00:22:35.920 Very, very few people are.
00:22:38.020 This is why the 2022 midterms are going to be fought over for a very long time.
00:22:47.100 Democrats are fighting over it right now by counting all those ballots.
00:22:49.580 But the Republicans are going to fight over it too.
00:22:52.360 And they're going to be fighting over who to blame.
00:22:54.520 Right now, the sort of consensus mainstream narrative is it's all Trump's fault.
00:22:59.140 And the Trump candidates lost and the non-Trump candidates won.
00:23:02.720 Now, I don't think this is really borne out by the data.
00:23:05.000 The way that you can make that argument is by disregarding the 100 plus, well over 100 candidates that Trump endorsed who won.
00:23:13.380 His record was pretty good.
00:23:14.580 But then what the people who blame Trump will say is, no, no, no.
00:23:17.220 But in the crucial races, in the ones that were kind of tight and questionable, Trump's endorsements were really, really bad.
00:23:22.460 And Trump did make some questionable endorsements in 2022.
00:23:25.440 There's no doubt about that.
00:23:27.280 But then you're going to see a question of what exactly is at fault here?
00:23:32.520 Is it election integrity?
00:23:33.600 Is it the mail-in ballots?
00:23:34.520 Is it the week-long vote counts?
00:23:36.760 Is it all the rest of it?
00:23:38.160 Is it Donald Trump?
00:23:41.100 Is it—and there's good arguments for both of those things.
00:23:43.540 Texas, Florida, and Ohio, that's a good argument for the election integrity side of it.
00:23:47.800 Dr. Oz was not a great candidate.
00:23:49.320 That's a good argument for blaming Trump.
00:23:50.900 Okay.
00:23:51.380 Or were there larger factors in play as well?
00:23:53.860 Was abortion an issue?
00:23:55.200 Abortion very well did play a disproportionate role.
00:23:58.200 I think it was totally worth it if we can overrule Roe v. Wade.
00:24:00.920 But that's a question that's going to factor in here.
00:24:03.180 There are all sorts of issues.
00:24:06.040 But people are not just going to move on.
00:24:07.860 They're not going to say, okay, the election's over.
00:24:09.240 We're going to move on.
00:24:09.960 One, we can't move on because there's still a runoff and the Democrats are still finding
00:24:12.960 ballots in Washoe County.
00:24:14.100 Or at least they were a couple days ago.
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00:25:58.140 The best argument I've seen against Trump, and specifically in favor of DeSantis, though
00:26:05.180 I guess you could make this argument about other GOP candidates, but right now DeSantis
00:26:08.700 would be the guy to benefit from it, is that Donald Trump's poll numbers are strong.
00:26:17.120 That's the argument.
00:26:18.500 It seems like it's not an argument for DeSantis, and it is an argument, but Donald Trump's poll
00:26:23.040 numbers are strong and steady, and they don't really move up all that much, whereas other
00:26:31.360 candidates, and specifically DeSantis, they've got a lot of runway in front of them.
00:26:35.720 So Morning Consul just did this poll.
00:26:39.840 Donald Trump's support has dipped in recent months.
00:26:42.880 That's the headline that you see in the media.
00:26:48.280 However, if you look at the poll numbers, and you take out some of the kind of jumps and
00:26:54.240 falls, the consistent numbers you see, it's about 48% of potential GOP voters supporting
00:27:00.140 him.
00:27:01.280 Now, in August, he reached a high of 57%, but then he dipped right back down to 48% in November.
00:27:08.380 Now, Ron DeSantis, his numbers are quite different.
00:27:13.220 Back in May of 2021, Ron DeSantis was polling at 8%.
00:27:17.660 Now, 26% say that they would support him in a 2024 Republican GOP primary, which is very
00:27:23.820 impressive considering that Ron DeSantis has not publicly stated that he intends to run.
00:27:28.900 I think most people expect him to run.
00:27:30.740 He's clearly building a national campaign.
00:27:32.660 He's clearly talking to donors.
00:27:34.020 But that's very impressive numbers.
00:27:35.540 And so, if you're looking at these two numbers, then you've got to think, okay, 48% is very,
00:27:44.260 very impressive.
00:27:45.080 But if that's the wall, then it doesn't matter.
00:27:48.340 48% and $1.50 will get you a cup of coffee.
00:27:50.500 You have to be able to grow in the campaign, depending on who runs and how the numbers shake
00:27:56.800 out.
00:27:57.140 Whereas, if DeSantis is jumping 8% to 26%, wow, sky's the limit.
00:28:01.240 How far can he go?
00:28:02.400 Now, there's another little wrinkle here, though.
00:28:05.940 That's the argument you're going to be hearing from the DeSantis stands.
00:28:08.660 But then there's another wrinkle here, which is, what about that little blip?
00:28:11.480 Hold on.
00:28:11.820 Wait, what's going on?
00:28:12.740 In August, DeSantis' number, or Trump's numbers, rather, jumped to 57% among potential GOP voters.
00:28:20.520 Whoa, how do you go from 48% to 57%?
00:28:23.040 What happened around August that would have done that?
00:28:26.000 Oh, right, Joe Biden targeted Donald Trump and sicked his federal agents to kick down the door
00:28:31.620 at Mar-a-Lago and steal his stuff.
00:28:35.020 Oh, right, the New York attorney general was talking about indicting Donald Trump.
00:28:40.180 Oh, right, you hear the entire political establishment moving to attack Trump.
00:28:44.500 And this is very likely going to determine how Trump rises or falls.
00:28:50.980 It has, I think, little to do with what Ron DeSantis does.
00:28:54.780 He's already doing everything he can do.
00:28:55.900 He's a great governor of Florida.
00:28:57.260 And he's putting himself in the national news cycle.
00:29:00.780 And he's playing his cards perfectly.
00:29:02.840 I don't think there's anything more DeSantis can do.
00:29:05.220 So what's going to determine it?
00:29:08.500 I think what's going to determine it is how hard the liberal establishment goes after Trump.
00:29:14.940 One of the reasons that some people are still preferring Trump over DeSantis,
00:29:20.660 I think probably the main reason, is that the establishment just freaking hates Donald Trump.
00:29:26.660 And they clearly want to kill this man.
00:29:28.260 And they're doing everything they can.
00:29:29.840 In some cases, it seems illegally or certainly unprecedentedly as a legal matter
00:29:36.800 to stop this guy from running in 2024.
00:29:39.400 And the fact that the liberal establishment is going after him so hard
00:29:42.560 is for many people a strong argument to support him.
00:29:47.440 Because it tells many people, man, this guy is still the one who's right over the target.
00:29:51.600 This guy is still this agent of chaos.
00:29:53.780 This guy is still completely unpredictable, uncontrollable man.
00:29:56.680 For all of his flaws, and he has myriad flaws,
00:29:59.260 this guy is still something kind of special.
00:30:03.620 If Joe Biden and the DOJ and the whole establishment keeps coming after Donald Trump,
00:30:09.600 expect that 48% number to go up again.
00:30:11.960 Expect it to spike to 57%.
00:30:13.560 Expect Trump to do well in the primary.
00:30:15.380 Expect him to take the nomination.
00:30:17.800 If the establishment ignores Trump with these kinds of numbers,
00:30:22.860 and if Donald Trump keeps irritating some of his supporters,
00:30:26.700 then maybe you could see a big opening, especially for someone like Ron DeSantis,
00:30:31.360 who's playing his cards totally right and who is very, very popular with GOP voters.
00:30:37.040 Now, there's another argument against Trump, which is on this exact same point,
00:30:40.320 and I haven't heard other people talking about it.
00:30:42.040 Which is, if you believe that the establishment is very corrupt, and they rig elections,
00:30:49.180 and they're doing things to Donald Trump that are unprecedented and probably illegal,
00:30:54.960 then you've got to ask yourself this.
00:30:57.480 Okay, so you're going to nominate Trump because of that.
00:31:01.760 But then don't you think they're just not going to let him win?
00:31:06.960 Don't you, don't you, if you're really saying that things are as bad as you say that they are,
00:31:11.560 then they're not going to let him win, right?
00:31:14.200 But then, of course, the answer to that kind of musing is,
00:31:18.140 well, sure, but I'm not just going to go along and play their game.
00:31:20.740 If the establishment says, pick anybody other than Trump,
00:31:23.980 I'm not going to play along with that because then I've already lost,
00:31:26.460 because then I'm allowing them to control who the GOP nominee is.
00:31:30.540 Yes, these are the forces that are at play.
00:31:33.820 I think where most of the conversation is right now is about,
00:31:37.440 why did Trump send out that tweet or fake tweet?
00:31:39.760 Why did he send out that truth social comment?
00:31:41.860 Why did he send it?
00:31:42.580 Why is he talking about Glenn Youngkin?
00:31:44.420 Well, come on, why is he doing that?
00:31:46.060 Hey, look at these great policies in Florida and Virginia.
00:31:48.740 And sure, that, right, that all plays.
00:31:52.800 But the crucial factors here, the things that actually move the numbers,
00:31:57.340 are going to be coming from different sources.
00:31:59.420 And a lot of it is going to depend on how the ruling class treats the Donald,
00:32:06.400 treats the former president.
00:32:09.580 There's kind of a relation to Twitter.
00:32:12.800 You know, Twitter now is in absolute chaos.
00:32:17.060 And Elon Musk is another agent of chaos and agent of change.
00:32:20.860 Elon Musk comes in and he just democratized the blue check mark.
00:32:24.500 The tyranny of the blue checks is over.
00:32:28.080 Because now if you pay eight bucks, you too can have your own blue check mark.
00:32:32.160 Now, why would you do that?
00:32:33.340 I don't know.
00:32:33.880 Because now, if everyone can have a blue check mark, then the blue check mark doesn't mean anything.
00:32:38.340 But think about, think about what that means.
00:32:41.500 The blue check mark was intended for verification.
00:32:48.780 The blue check mark means that this person is who he says he is.
00:32:53.200 And the reason it developed in the first place is because if you had public figures,
00:32:56.400 then you would have lots of accounts come in to impersonate those public figures.
00:32:59.880 So you needed a check mark to say, who is the actual public figure?
00:33:03.840 Will the real Slim Shady please stand up?
00:33:06.900 Now, the meaning of the check mark started to change long before Elon Musk showed an interest in Twitter.
00:33:13.160 It was when Richard Spencer, the white identitarian activist,
00:33:17.520 aroused the ire of everybody and all the people in Silicon Valley.
00:33:22.840 And so they took his check mark away.
00:33:25.200 It was very strange.
00:33:26.400 They took his check mark away, why?
00:33:27.920 Because he was no longer Richard Spencer?
00:33:30.200 Did he cease to be Richard Spencer?
00:33:31.920 No, it's because they recognized that the blue check mark connoted not just a sort of identity,
00:33:39.700 not just a verification, but a certain prestige.
00:33:43.760 If you had a blue check mark, you were very, very fancy.
00:33:46.600 It was the sort of lords and serfs model of Twitter.
00:33:51.400 And now Elon has totally changed that.
00:33:55.680 And the blue check mark just means you paid $8.
00:33:57.680 It's the same sort of thing that happens with our republic or our sacred democracy.
00:34:04.740 You hear that phrase.
00:34:06.060 When Ian Bremmer or somebody calls me an election denier because I raise basic questions about
00:34:11.780 why the security cameras went out for eight hours or why it's taking five days to count the votes.
00:34:16.380 Stuff that any normal person would have been able to ask five years ago, but we're not allowed to ask it anymore.
00:34:21.060 And when the Democrats refer to our sacred democracy, they don't say our republic because they want to tie our form of government to their own party, which is the Democrat Party.
00:34:33.680 And it's ironic because when the word democracy pops up, it doesn't pop up at the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence.
00:34:38.800 It does crop up in the Federalist Papers, always negatively, always disapproval.
00:34:43.520 But anyway, they refer to our democracy.
00:34:46.140 But one has to recognize that our democracy or our republic or just our system of government is not the same one that it used to be.
00:34:55.360 And the way that our government works today is not the way that it worked in 1796.
00:35:02.220 The way that our government works today is not the way that it worked in 1885 or 1955.
00:35:10.360 Or it has changed dramatically over time.
00:35:14.900 So we use the same terms to refer to our government, our democracy, our republic, our whatever.
00:35:22.820 But we're not referring to the same thing.
00:35:24.440 We have the same symbol, just like the blue checkmark.
00:35:28.000 It's the same symbol, but it means something totally different than it used to mean even just a few years ago.
00:35:34.260 And whereas it may not have been proper or right to raise questions about the elections 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 50 years ago, the system has changed.
00:35:48.240 The system of elections has changed.
00:35:50.260 And the conservatives are a little bit slow on this.
00:35:52.840 But it's the liberals' main trick.
00:35:55.380 I mean, this is the thesis of my book, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, number one national bestseller.
00:35:59.700 Still selling very well, makes a great Christmas present.
00:36:01.500 Is that the Democrats are just much more adept at using language and that they pervert language as the primary means of achieving their political ends.
00:36:12.900 So when they refer to these things, when they refer to men as women, or when they refer to foreign nationals as undocumented, dreaming future Americans, or when they refer to rigged elections that they admitted or rigged in Time magazine as, you know, the persistent and enduring symbol of our sacred democracy, they're lying to you.
00:36:40.420 They're deceiving you, and then they gaslight you whenever you raise the question, whenever you point out that the way that they're describing things does not correspond to reality.
00:36:53.620 Speaking of how they use language, especially on sexual questions, well, radical gender ideologues decry the harms of single-sex bathrooms and comedy specials and dead-named celebrities.
00:37:06.940 Kids are the ones that are actually suffering.
00:37:08.500 Just recently, the FDA issued a warning that prescribed puberty blockers, the ones that transgender activists claim are harmless and reversible, can actually cause vision loss and brain swelling.
00:37:18.780 The experimentation on children has to end.
00:37:21.220 To fight back, we must expose and defend the truth, such as has been the case in Matt Walsh's documentary, What is a Woman?
00:37:29.220 With over 5,000 audience ratings on Rotten Tomatoes, what is a woman is pushing back against the left's dangerous narratives.
00:37:35.820 Help us keep the momentum up by watching and sharing the movie.
00:37:39.820 Go to dailywire.com slash knollstoday to become a member and watch it.
00:37:46.600 Things are not always what they seem.
00:37:48.620 You especially see this in the case of FTX and Sam Bankman Freed.
00:37:55.900 Have you seen this guy?
00:37:56.740 I have no idea what this was, because you know me, I'm a boomer.
00:38:02.380 You know, I'm older than a boomer.
00:38:03.620 I'm whatever Joe Biden is.
00:38:04.800 That's what I am, at least in my mind.
00:38:06.540 That's at least how I identify.
00:38:07.980 So I'm not really into crypto or, you know, computers or, I don't know, Donkey Kong or whatever you kids are playing out there.
00:38:16.080 So I didn't know who this guy was or what his exchange was.
00:38:18.800 FTX was a crypto exchange headquartered in the Bahamas.
00:38:24.820 It was launched in 2019.
00:38:27.120 It had accrued 1 million users by this year.
00:38:32.020 And all of a sudden, users demanded their money.
00:38:36.520 So there was a run on this exchange.
00:38:38.100 They demanded $6 billion in withdrawals.
00:38:41.060 And the exchange collapsed.
00:38:42.940 Why did they demand the $6 billion in withdrawals?
00:38:45.100 They demanded it because of an article published by Coindesk, which revealed that the two arms of this guy's empire, Sam Bankman Freed, were sharing a lot of assets, were doing lots of dodgy stuff.
00:38:58.600 So he had the exchange, and he had sort of like a hedge fund.
00:39:03.060 And there was a back door that was allowing the money to go between the two.
00:39:07.480 And so their balance sheets were totally bogus, and the thing was pretty much a Ponzi scheme.
00:39:11.480 So this comes out, Bankman Freed goes broke.
00:39:18.220 And I'm not sure that people even know where he is right now.
00:39:21.040 It's just he's either the Madoff of our generation or it's the Enron of our generation.
00:39:26.180 It's a major, major financial scandal and crime and collapse.
00:39:30.340 Now, why does that matter?
00:39:31.780 I always thought the crypto thing was weird, so I never got all that into it.
00:39:34.900 But people have got, you know, people, I mean, major institutions invested in crypto.
00:39:40.300 And so why does it matter?
00:39:43.560 Why is it interesting to us?
00:39:45.380 Well, it has nothing to do with crypto or the Bahamas or anything like that.
00:39:49.180 It has everything to do with Sam Bankman Freed's extracurricular activities, his hobbies.
00:39:56.480 Bankman Freed was the number two donor to the Democratic Party this cycle.
00:40:01.940 Number one is George Soros.
00:40:03.460 You're not allowed to say that, though.
00:40:04.940 It's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory to mention who the largest donor to the Democrat Party is.
00:40:10.640 George Soros, who is, I don't think he's exactly a practicing Jew, last I checked.
00:40:15.380 But anyway, the libs tell me it's an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory,
00:40:18.680 and I'm not allowed to mention that he's the number one donor.
00:40:20.460 Well, the number two donor is this guy, Sam Bankman Freed.
00:40:24.200 Sam Bankman Freed gave at least $38 million to left-wing causes
00:40:29.280 and political action committees and candidates.
00:40:34.200 This is what they do.
00:40:36.700 This is what the libs do.
00:40:39.240 They use their clout.
00:40:43.300 They use their social prestige.
00:40:44.880 They use their money to puff up even more their semblance of virtue.
00:40:52.000 They make it seem like they're the most altruistic, wonderful, caring people in the world.
00:40:55.480 And yet, the point is always to give them breathing room
00:40:59.420 and to give them an opportunity to fill their pockets more and more.
00:41:04.180 You see this on some of the Great Reset.
00:41:06.320 When we talk about the Great Reset, the fact that the libs are trying to make people eat bugs
00:41:10.820 and the libs are trying to make people live in these gigantic, awful skyscrapers in these tiny little pods,
00:41:17.720 and that the Great Reset, which is this project of the World Economic Forum,
00:41:23.460 which involves some of the most powerful people on Earth,
00:41:25.660 who say explicitly, you will own nothing and be happy.
00:41:29.240 You will not have any possessions.
00:41:32.560 Well, the flowery arguments that they make at their conference in Davos
00:41:36.940 is that this is for the good of humanity.
00:41:41.560 This will allow the human collective to grow and progress.
00:41:45.840 And the funny thing about all of their schemes and their plans,
00:41:51.160 a lot of which revolve around climate change,
00:41:53.940 but they have all sorts of other doomsday prophecies,
00:41:58.060 overpopulation, and all the rest of it.
00:42:00.760 The funny thing about all their schemes to address all of these Armageddon scenarios
00:42:05.140 is that all the schemes always seem to make those people richer.
00:42:10.120 Isn't that kind of weird?
00:42:11.040 It's not just simple enough to say,
00:42:16.500 well, this is a movement from the radical leftists
00:42:18.360 who are trying to push their utopian vision on the world.
00:42:20.580 Yeah, sure, that's part of it.
00:42:22.540 It's also capital.
00:42:24.900 It's also deeply entrenched, moneyed interests
00:42:28.920 who use all this woke nonsense as a smokescreen
00:42:33.160 to fill their pockets more and more.
00:42:36.220 It's also that.
00:42:37.040 And that's what you saw from Sam Bankman Freed.
00:42:42.000 But it was all an illusion.
00:42:46.060 Speaking of left-wing, Democrat illusions and delusions,
00:42:53.600 an MSNBC panelist is floating a ticket for 2024.
00:42:58.940 Of all that I've heard,
00:43:02.280 you know, we've heard about we need DeSantis.
00:43:05.840 Oh, yeah, DeSantis is great.
00:43:07.420 We need Trump.
00:43:08.200 I still like Trump.
00:43:09.040 A lot of people don't like him anymore.
00:43:10.100 I still like Trump.
00:43:10.980 We need, I don't know, Ted Cruz.
00:43:12.440 I love Ted Cruz.
00:43:13.120 That'd be great.
00:43:14.060 We need this guy.
00:43:14.800 We need that guy.
00:43:15.260 We need this guy.
00:43:16.440 I've now heard, this is my favorite ticket.
00:43:20.160 MSNBC, take it away.
00:43:21.720 Let me throw out a couple of other names if I can.
00:43:23.740 So you've got Val Demings, right?
00:43:25.000 You've got Liz Cheney.
00:43:28.420 Sherry Beasley.
00:43:29.820 Tim Ryan, a top Democrat suggested to me,
00:43:32.960 watch for Tim Ryan in years in the future to run for president.
00:43:36.720 I mean, I don't know.
00:43:38.320 Do you count these folks out?
00:43:40.580 Are many of them maybe the right candidate in the wrong state?
00:43:45.420 Well, what about if we pair up Liz Cheney and Stacey Abrams
00:43:48.940 and actually start talking about universal voting and election reform?
00:43:52.320 I could see them doing kind of a czar thing with the administration
00:43:55.320 that's completely bipartisan.
00:43:56.920 That would be exciting.
00:43:57.960 I mean, stuff does turn over in what point in administration.
00:44:00.660 But there's commissions that the president can create.
00:44:02.600 And there is definitely an appetite for this kind of movement.
00:44:05.920 There's not one American who has not experienced an election day
00:44:10.120 and said, this is flawed.
00:44:11.380 There has to be a better way.
00:44:13.200 Before I get to her point on elections, yes, I endorse this ticket.
00:44:17.960 I will campaign for Cheney Abrams in the Democrat primary.
00:44:23.820 Yes, this is what we need.
00:44:27.280 If Cheney Abrams run in 2024 some of the biggest losers in the United States,
00:44:35.200 even with the power going out and the water pipes bursting
00:44:40.480 and the cameras turning off and the machines malfunctioning,
00:44:43.680 even with that, Republicans will win 57 states.
00:44:46.540 So let's do it, baby.
00:44:49.140 I'm in.
00:44:49.680 Again, all of the 57 states that Barack Obama remembered,
00:44:54.860 that's what the Republicans are going to win if they get it.
00:44:58.260 On her point, though, she makes a very important point here.
00:45:01.700 She says they should run on election reform.
00:45:04.720 Election reform is very important to people.
00:45:06.800 Now, she is describing election reform as make it even easier to cheat,
00:45:11.620 rig it even more for the Democrats.
00:45:12.900 She calls it universal voting.
00:45:15.100 What does that mean?
00:45:15.580 Everybody has the legal right to vote in America.
00:45:17.080 Everybody has had the legal right to vote for a century and a half.
00:45:21.820 Everybody has had the federal government enforcing the legal right to vote
00:45:26.260 for, what, 60 years now at least.
00:45:29.480 So what is she possibly talking about?
00:45:31.580 She's saying basically make sure that every single person casts a ballot.
00:45:36.420 That means more ballot harvesting.
00:45:38.020 It means fewer ID requirements.
00:45:39.980 It means a lot more dead people voting.
00:45:41.940 It means we're going to be counting until the Democrats win.
00:45:44.940 So what she means by election reform is really bad.
00:45:50.200 But when she says there at the end, she says,
00:45:52.880 there's not one person in America who's gone to vote recently
00:45:56.240 who has thought this is a functioning system.
00:45:58.960 And she's totally right about that.
00:46:01.040 Where's Ian Bremmer to call her an election denier?
00:46:04.060 Let's go.
00:46:04.680 Come on, Ian.
00:46:05.600 Come on, liberal establishment.
00:46:07.580 She's an election denier.
00:46:08.740 She's saying that there are serious problems with our voting system.
00:46:11.940 Oh, right.
00:46:12.380 Everybody says that.
00:46:13.260 Every single person says and thinks that.
00:46:16.900 It's just that when inconvenient people,
00:46:20.600 when enemies of the established regime and ruling class,
00:46:25.060 when the conservatives, the actual conservatives come out and say that,
00:46:28.300 that's the problem.
00:46:29.960 We're not allowed to point it out.
00:46:32.240 MSNBC can talk about it all day.
00:46:36.400 It is a big issue.
00:46:37.340 And I think conservatives and Republicans should take her advice seriously to heart
00:46:41.800 because if we want to get results like Florida and Texas and Ohio,
00:46:51.300 we need really good, strong conservative government in those states.
00:46:55.540 Yeah, we need the DeSantis model in those states.
00:46:57.620 That would be awesome.
00:46:59.040 But, you know, Ohio, I don't know.
00:47:00.920 You wouldn't say that Ohio is kind of leading the charge for the conservative revolution in America
00:47:05.720 in the way that Florida is, right?
00:47:07.740 Or even Texas is not doing quite the same thing.
00:47:11.720 What was the big factor there?
00:47:14.400 Especially in Ohio, which is kind of a purple state.
00:47:17.340 Now some people are trying to say, no, it's a firmly red state.
00:47:19.720 But that's not quite true.
00:47:21.700 Ohio is very much in play.
00:47:24.080 If anyone turned it into a red state, it is Donald Trump, actually.
00:47:27.700 Certainly before Trump, it was a very purple state, leaning to a blue state sometimes.
00:47:32.640 So what's the big determining factor here?
00:47:35.200 I think it's probably this election issue.
00:47:37.020 And the liberals don't want to talk about it because they're winning now,
00:47:42.200 because they were able to rig the elections using the excuse of COVID.
00:47:46.700 The conservatives do want to talk about it.
00:47:49.300 But there's that squishy block, the kind of squishy establishment conservatives
00:47:52.860 who want to be liked by the New York Times, who want to get invited on CNN,
00:47:56.920 who want to seem really posh, especially look Thanksgiving and Christmas are around the corner.
00:48:01.540 They don't want to be called a crazy, kooky, wacky person by their lesbian, purple-haired niece.
00:48:07.580 I was going to say nephew, maybe nephew, who knows these days, at the dinner table.
00:48:11.100 And so they want to seem like the really respectable sort of establishment conservatives.
00:48:15.580 And they don't want to raise this question of election integrity either.
00:48:20.180 It's important.
00:48:20.960 And a lot of the conservatives that everyone's looking up to right now,
00:48:24.800 Ron DeSantis, Greg Abbott, they took election integrity seriously,
00:48:32.160 especially knowing that they and their friends would be on the ballots.
00:48:35.080 They took it seriously.
00:48:36.500 And every other Republican should too.
00:48:39.100 Today's Music Monday.
00:48:39.960 We've got a T-Swift video.
00:48:42.040 Again, I don't think I've ever intentionally listened to an entire Taylor Swift song.
00:48:45.700 In my whole life, I don't really know anything about the girl.
00:48:48.920 But her last song seemed to me fairly conservative, which was jarring to me because I was told she was a huge lib.
00:48:54.460 So anyway, the producers have teed up a T-Swift song.
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