The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1133 - The Trump & Kanye Dinner Heard Round The World

00:00:00.000 Pretty disturbing news to start the week with. We can now confirm that the former president

00:00:05.180 had a meeting with anti-Semites, people who have made extremely offensive comments

00:00:11.200 about the Holocaust and about the Jewish people as a whole.

00:00:16.040 Now, that meeting did not happen over the weekend. It actually happened back in 2005,

00:00:21.360 when then-senator, soon-to-be presidential candidate Barack Obama,

00:00:24.400 and the Congressional Black Caucus met for smiles and giggles and photographs with Louis

00:00:30.540 Farrakhan, who calls the Jews termites. And the media covered it up and told everybody that it

00:00:36.360 wasn't a big deal. The former president's meeting with the prominent anti-Semites was not confined

00:00:42.340 to one night. It actually took place over the course of two decades, when Barack Obama was a

00:00:48.000 registered member of the church of his good friend Jeremiah Wright, until in Wright's words,

00:00:53.240 quote, them Jews stopped letting him talk to me. And then, too, the media pretty much brushed the 0.59

00:01:00.020 whole thing under the rug, and Obama never had to apologize, and everybody just moved on.

00:01:05.720 Oh, also, Donald Trump had dinner with his troubled friend of many years, Kanye West,

00:01:10.860 over the weekend, which, according to the media, is an unforgivable sin and makes Trump the second

00:01:16.360 coming of Hitler, which the same media, of course, have already been claiming ceaselessly about Donald

00:01:22.600 Trump for the past seven years. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:33.860 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment on, what was it, Wednesday? Oh, my gosh, it's been so

00:01:38.400 long. Hope everybody had a good Thanksgiving. My favorite comment on Wednesday was from Jim

00:01:42.720 Lubke, who says, we need to fight this fight now, or we won't be able to put up much of a fight

00:01:48.600 in the 2024 race. Yup, the folks who say Charlie Brown needs to stop calling out Lucy's shenanigans

00:01:54.800 and just get better at football are missing a critical point. Of course, whatever you want to

00:02:00.280 say about the 2022 midterm elections. I think we have to admit that Arizona was extremely sus.

00:02:07.820 It was very, very suspect, and a lot of the voting machines did not work, and there were all these

00:02:13.980 dodgy practices of putting the provisional ballots into this box at box number three, I think it was

00:02:19.400 called, and the box was not checked to see how many ballots there were before they went in. And then

00:02:25.840 there are poll workers now who are testifying, saying that there were hundreds more votes than

00:02:30.960 registered voters who came in and were checked in that day. And the whole thing just stinks to high

00:02:35.580 heaven. And then it took a week to count the ballots, and then what do you know? The Democrats just

00:02:40.120 barely eke it out. So yes, the Republicans need to win Arizona in 2024 in order to win the presidency.

00:02:46.260 And so if we don't fix the voting problems there, then you could run the greatest campaign in the

00:02:50.060 world. But it doesn't really matter so much who votes and how many people votes. It matters much

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00:06:23.580 Are you going to buy a subscription? You absolutely should. The latest tempest in a teapot, Donald Trump

00:06:30.640 is a Nazi. Why is Donald Trump a Nazi? Well, because he had dinner with Kanye West, who's a Nazi. 0.99

00:06:36.860 And Kanye West brought his friends who are Nazis, and therefore, Donald Trump's a Nazi. That's the headline, 0.96

00:06:41.580 okay? That's what people are telling you. What happened? Well, here's how Trump describes it on Truth Social.

00:06:48.340 He says, this past week, Kanye West called me to have dinner at Mar-a-Lago. Shortly thereafter, he unexpectedly

00:06:53.560 showed up with three of his friends, whom I knew nothing about. We had dinner on Tuesday evening with many

00:06:59.860 members present on the back patio. The dinner was quick and uneventful. They then left for the airport.

00:07:05.320 Okay? Sounds about right. But there were these problems because apparently Trump brought these

00:07:10.600 guys who have said all sorts of terrible offensive things. And so therefore, Trump is a Nazi, right? 0.82

00:07:16.780 That's what they said. So then Trump goes on. He says, so I help a seriously troubled man who just 0.94

00:07:23.520 happens to be black, yay, Kanye West, who has been decimated in his business and virtually everything 0.90

00:07:29.420 else, and who has always been good to me by allowing his request for a meeting at Mar-a-Lago alone so

00:07:34.180 that I can give him some very much needed advice. He shows up with three people, two of whom I didn't

00:07:38.620 know, the other a political person who I hadn't seen in years. I told him, don't run for office,

00:07:43.740 a total waste of time, can't win. Fake news went crazy. Okay, but the libs aren't buying it.

00:07:49.200 They're saying, no, Trump, he's a Nazi. Same thing they've been saying for seven years.

00:07:53.600 What do you think is more likely? Two reads on this dinner. The first read is what Donald Trump

00:08:01.060 said. His friend of many years, who's been very good to him, who clearly has troubles and who has

00:08:07.680 just had his entire net worth basically wiped away, asked for a meeting. And Trump said, okay,

00:08:12.380 come, we'll have dinner and I'll give you some advice. Or Trump is secretly plotting the Nazi

00:08:20.540 takeover of the United States because he hates Jews. He hates Jews. That's why his daughter 1.00

00:08:25.480 converted to Judaism. That's why his grandkids are Jewish. And that's why there's a town named

00:08:29.080 after him in Israel. And that's why he pushed the Abraham Accords. And, and, and. Which of those two 0.89

00:08:34.960 is more likely? Obviously, it's the former. It's just a complete tempest in a teapot. It's another,

00:08:43.160 another ridiculous attempt to attack Donald Trump. And frankly, I think it probably helps Trump 0.98

00:08:49.880 because Trump's biggest competitor right now on the right is not Kanye West. I don't think,

00:08:56.660 I think it is probably Ron DeSantis. A lot of Trump's supporters and former supporters have

00:09:00.960 gravitated toward Ron DeSantis. And one of the arguments for Trump over Ron DeSantis is that

00:09:07.020 Trump is the one that they really hate. Trump is the one that the libs really want to get.

00:09:14.980 He's the real threat. They're throwing all of their firepower at Trump. And this seems to back

00:09:19.600 that up. They're just still trying to destroy Donald Trump. So I don't think you need to throw the man

00:09:29.520 away and say, oh my gosh, he had this dinner. You're going to see 10 more of these episodes

00:09:34.180 before the year is through. And don't forget, we get two years until the presidential election.

00:09:39.700 Speaking of the Nazis, Alyssa Milano is taking a stand. She's taking a stand against fascism

00:09:47.040 and hate and white supremacy. She's giving back her Tesla. Here's what Alyssa Milano said. 1.00

00:09:52.100 She said, I gave back my Tesla. I bought the VW electric vehicle. I love it. I'm not sure how

00:09:58.900 advertisers can buy space on Twitter. Publicly traded companies' products being pushed in

00:10:04.880 alignment with hate and white supremacy does not seem to be a winning business model.

00:10:10.960 I don't know if Alyssa Milano is a huge history buff, but VW has a little bit more of a sordid 0.98

00:10:17.920 history than Tesla does. VW, of course, was founded by Adolf Hitler himself and the Nazi party.

00:10:23.620 It means the people's wagon, Volkswagen. But of course, she doesn't know this. She doesn't know

00:10:29.840 anything. This reminds me that people, very prominent people in public life, have absolutely

00:10:37.200 no historical frame of reference or memory. Everything is just in this perpetual now,

00:10:44.360 this perpetual sort of mania that we're in. And so people forget about ancient history or medieval

00:10:50.180 history. Hitler founded Volkswagen less than 100 years ago. Doesn't matter. There's just this 0.88

00:10:55.580 perpetual now. And you're seeing this accelerate. You're seeing this accelerate in Canada, actually.

00:11:02.540 Justin Trudeau, I referenced this a little bit last week. Justin Trudeau is now the first world leader

00:11:08.960 to go on a drag race show. Hi, Queens. Hi. I'm so sorry to interrupt. I know it's a big day. But

00:11:18.600 seeing as we have the best Queens from around the world, we thought you deserved a proper welcome.

00:11:23.580 Please help me welcome to the Canada's Drag Race workroom, the Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau.

00:11:31.320 Do I have to kiss him? Do I have to kiss his ring? I heard you had a summit and I think I'm a little

00:11:40.580 too late for it, unfortunately. We're actually just about to do a makeover episode. Oh, that's a big one.

00:11:45.820 Queens, anybody want to take it on? I'm waiting. This is groundbreaking. The first ever world leader

00:11:51.940 to visit a drag race set. I'm glad to be the first. I look forward to the time there's a third or a

00:11:58.140 fourth. To have a world leader in the workroom talking to us, how amazing is that? You better

00:12:04.400 work, Justin Trudeau. Yes. Totally historic. Isn't this so historic? But then when I saw the clip,

00:12:11.840 I thought, wait a second. Didn't Nancy Pelosi already go on one of these shows? Wait a second,

00:12:17.420 didn't AOC already go on one of these shows? Oh, but I guess neither of them are world leaders in

00:12:23.140 the sense that neither of them are a head of state. So now Justin Trudeau, he's making history.

00:12:28.940 It's all, it's how historical is this? Justin Trudeau is the third lib in the last six months

00:12:33.580 to go on a weird drag queen show. But it's historic because he's the first world leader from Canada on

00:12:40.440 this special version of the show. How many historic firsts do there have to be before

00:12:49.340 people recognize that the alleged historical first groups have a ton of power and dominance in our

00:12:58.860 society? How many? How many do we see with it? Because the way this is being framed is this is so

00:13:06.240 brave of Justin Trudeau. No, not at all. It would be brave not to go on the drag queen show. 0.98

00:13:10.080 The people who are in power are relentlessly pushing transgenderism. 0.99

00:13:17.820 It would take some courage to stand up against that. But it's very effective. If you want to

00:13:25.220 amass power, one very effective way to do it is to claim victimhood. You heard me allude to this

00:13:31.240 when we were talking about the Daily Wire memberships for Cyber Monday. But you just saw this

00:13:37.040 over the weekend with Disney. Disney just had the historic first. Hold on, let me see what the

00:13:42.580 historic. It's the historic first gay teen romance animated film. It's called Strange World. It's the

00:13:49.660 historic first though. I thought, wait, hold on. How many times have I read the headline? Historic

00:13:54.560 first gay blank from Disney. I mean, you had Disney executives on leaked video saying that they were

00:14:00.980 pushing a not so secret gay agenda. There have been gay kisses in this thing and gay relationships in 0.51

00:14:06.160 this thing and gay this and gay that. But I guess because this one's an underage gay relationship, 0.88

00:14:10.340 that's the big new historic first. And it totally flopped. The movie brought in $4.2 million in ticket

00:14:19.820 sales. They're projecting that it could make as little as $21 million over the full holiday weekend.

00:14:28.000 The movie was $180 million budget. So it's just a complete failure. So why is that? Because the

00:14:36.400 people don't want to see it. Of course not. You can be totally open-minded and live and let live and

00:14:41.440 you're not homophobic or anything at all. And you don't want to go take your kid to see like cartoon

00:14:48.140 gay teenagers kissing, right? It's just not something that people want. But the conservatives don't, 0.68

00:14:55.600 unfortunately, the conservatives don't recognize the game that is being played here. And they want

00:15:02.600 to allow the cultural revolution to go halfway. They don't want to totally stand against the

00:15:08.580 cultural revolution, but they don't want it to go all the way either. They want it to stop halfway.

00:15:12.820 If you stand in the middle of the road, though, you will, in fact, be hit by a truck.

00:15:16.980 The reason that the Disney teen gay movie failed is because people don't want to see it.

00:15:27.140 But the reason it was made in the first place is that the entire culture has normalized homosexuality. 0.93

00:15:36.020 But the problem is if you normalize homosexuality, then you have to normalize it for young people too. 0.81

00:15:42.660 This is where I actually think that the left makes stronger arguments than the right.

00:15:48.700 If homosexual behavior is totally normal, totally fine, no questions about it whatsoever, 1.00

00:15:56.160 Christianity, Judaism, Islam, every, many pagans, everyone who is, though not those Greeks, 0.82

00:16:02.500 they got a little frisky with each other. But if the vast majority of people who have ever thought

00:16:06.920 about these questions were all totally wrong, and there's no moral question whatsoever about

00:16:12.080 homosexual behavior, then why shouldn't it be normalized for teenagers too?

00:16:18.160 People develop romantic feelings when they're teenagers. People go on little dates,

00:16:22.760 and they have little crushes, and they flirt with each other when they're teenagers.

00:16:26.400 So why would we now be saying, well, no, you're only allowed to have representations of crushes,

00:16:32.240 and dates, and teen romances for straight couples, not gay couples? Why would we? That wouldn't make 1.00

00:16:39.040 any sense. Unless you were to go all the way and say, no, homosexuality is abnormal, and

00:16:45.940 maybe we'll be open-minded about it, and we're not going to be cruel, and we're not going to be mean,

00:16:51.460 and we're not going to be vicious, and all these different things. But we have to acknowledge it's

00:16:54.980 abnormal. It is not the norm, not what we're aiming at, okay? And therefore, we're not going to

00:17:00.260 present it in our popular culture. We're not going to make every single movie and every single thing

00:17:04.960 gay all the time, and we're certainly not going to present teenagers in these gay relationships 0.98

00:17:10.760 in cartoons. But I don't think the conservatives are willing to go there. Do you? No, because it

00:17:18.480 feels icky and that you'll be called phobic or this or that. And it also rubs up against,

00:17:24.740 pun unintended, it rubs up against a liberal premise that many American conservatives have adopted,

00:17:32.480 which is that politics is ultimately just about the individual. Individual choice, individual

00:17:38.240 preference. Do whatever you want to do as long as it doesn't hurt me. Just do whatever you want to do.

00:17:43.420 I have no right to come in and tell you not to do that. The state certainly has no right to come in

00:17:48.380 and tell you not to do that. You just have a sort of radical individual autonomy. Now, that is not

00:17:55.440 traditionally a conservative point of view. That is a liberal point of view, okay? That is the

00:18:00.840 consequences of John Locke, okay? The conservatives traditionally tend to go a little more for the

00:18:07.700 Aristotle idea. You know, they tend to go a little bit more for the idea that man is a political being

00:18:12.140 or a social being. We obviously are influenced by one another. There obviously are norms and standards

00:18:17.700 in society, and there always will be. And so we need to just agree on what those are, and hopefully we

00:18:22.760 have better standards and not worse standards, right? I don't, the reason that I think the libs are going 1.00

00:18:28.100 to win is not because the libs are omnipotent, or the libs are so smart, or the libs, what? I think

00:18:35.000 the reason that the libs right now are more likely to win on these cultural issues is because the

00:18:39.940 conservatives don't have any clarity on it. And they don't, they don't, they don't see,

00:18:47.960 they don't see how far back on the slippery slope you got to go to stop this sort of stuff.

00:18:55.020 Because it's a pretty far ways back. And so as a result, this movie is going to bomb, and you know

00:19:01.180 what? You're going to get another gay teen cartoon. And that one's probably going to bomb too, and 0.97

00:19:05.460 you're going to get another gay teen cartoon. And it's just going to keep going because the libs are 0.99

00:19:09.100 determined to normalize this sort of thing, and the conservatives are not going to resist it.

00:19:13.620 A very, very effective way, as I mentioned, to amass power is to claim victimhood. So a lot of this

00:19:21.820 came out of AIDS when, during the AIDS epidemic, you saw lots of gay guys dying. And this created a

00:19:28.960 lot of public sympathy, rightly so. And as a result of that, you saw a huge leap in the gay, 1.00

00:19:36.580 gay rights movement. And then ultimately that leads to redefining marriage, and ultimately that

00:19:40.800 leads to transgenderism. But sometimes, because this is an effective political tactic,

00:19:46.080 sometimes people just fake it. A lot of times people just fake it, actually. So over the last

00:19:52.360 month, there's a gay bar in Hell's Kitchen. It's called VERS, V-E-R-S, VERS. And they've had four 0.98

00:19:59.840 separate incidents of an individual throwing bricks through the windows. Awful, terrible, homophobic 0.95

00:20:07.120 attack, right? Well, according to Borough President in New York, the epidemic of LGBTQ plus violence is 1.00

00:20:15.120 National, a well-known gay bar on Manhattan's west side, has been attacked repeatedly in recent weeks.

00:20:19.260 We cannot stand for this. According to a city council member, this man, and they show a picture

00:20:23.720 of the guy, this man has thrown bricks at the window of VERS Bar four times in recent weeks.

00:20:29.300 These are hate crimes against the LGBTQ community, as opposed to love crimes. You know, they're the 1.00

00:20:33.560 hate ones, not the loved ones. Please help us identify him. If you have any information,

00:20:37.580 please contact NYPD Hate Crimes at this address or this number.

00:20:41.460 Now, this was going a little too far with the city council member because he showed the picture.

00:20:47.900 There's a little bit of a video. They found the guy. The guy is not being charged with a hate crime.

00:20:54.240 Why is he not being charged with a hate crime? Because he is not a homophobe. How do we know

00:20:58.860 he's not a homophobe? Because he is a gay guy. It was a gay guy doing it. And so now the story goes 1.00

00:21:06.440 away. There was that shooting at the gay club in Colorado. The moment the shooting happened,

00:21:12.560 obviously it's very sad whenever a shooting happens, but the moment it happened, you had

00:21:16.340 this flood from the left-wing media. They said, this is a homophobic attack. This is the result

00:21:23.040 of people like those over at the Daily Wire who oppose the LGBTQ agenda. This is, these would be 0.91

00:21:30.060 blood on your hands, all you evil conservatives. Then what happened? Turns out the shooter is a 0.96

00:21:38.540 member of the LGBTQ community and the shooter identifies as non-binary. And then what happened?

00:21:43.040 The story completely disappeared. Completely disappeared. Okay. It was just Jussie Smollett.

00:21:51.120 This is a homophobic anti-black attack in the south side of Chicago, which is MAGA country. 0.98

00:21:58.200 And there were white supremacists with nooses. Okay. This isn't totally checking out, 0.99

00:22:02.120 but they still pushed the story. And then when it became clear, he made the whole thing up.

00:22:05.300 The story just went away. And it's important for people to recognize this. When you're reading the

00:22:11.120 news, you have to recognize that, yes, the stories are probably not being reported accurately.

00:22:20.500 So yes, they spread fake news in that way, but it goes even further. The only reason you are seeing

00:22:27.000 certain stories is to push an agenda. Newspapers have editors. Okay. The reason that these stories

00:22:34.900 end up there in the first place, the reason you've heard of these stories is because they're pushing

00:22:39.700 an agenda. You see this in every news story. Forget about the gay stuff or the race stuff or whatever.

00:22:46.060 You see this with the war in Ukraine. Why is it that the war in Ukraine is the only war that anyone's

00:22:51.560 really heard about in recent years? It's not because it's the only war going on. There are

00:22:55.520 plenty of wars going on in Arabia, in Africa, in Asia. There are wars going on all over the place.

00:23:02.340 You're hearing about that war because it more directly involves the United States,

00:23:07.320 even though the US doesn't want to admit it. And two, because the West feels an interest,

00:23:15.320 the United States feels a national interest in that war. And so you're seeing a ton of it. That is

00:23:19.980 why that is appearing to you. And it's why it's even in your own perception. Okay. So

00:23:27.560 it helps to be able to see through these sorts of things. And when you see shifts in power,

00:23:36.080 that's especially when it becomes clear because all of the things that the side that was in power

00:23:40.380 have been whining on and prattling on about for months and months and years and years,

00:23:45.040 all of a sudden, when they totally back away from them, you realize how hollow their claims were to

00:23:50.160 begin with. I'll give you a concrete example of this. Adam Schiff and the Democrats. You've heard

00:23:54.320 the Democrats talking about how there are terrible threats, existential threats to our sacred democracy.

00:23:59.600 And the threats are when you question how they rig the elections. But also, if you refuse

00:24:06.980 to go along with certain congressional subpoenas, if we mock the January 6th committee, that's a grave

00:24:15.100 threat to our sacred democracy until the Republicans take charge. If you are subpoenaed by Republicans

00:24:24.040 when they take over, will you comply? You know, we'll have to consider the validity of the subpoena.

00:24:29.420 But I would certainly view my obligation, the administration's obligation to follow the law

00:24:34.180 and the fact that they have disrespected the law is not a precedent I would hope that would be

00:24:40.100 broadly followed. But we'll have to look at the legitimacy or lack of legitimacy of what they do. 0.80

00:24:45.220 Well, it would depend on the legitimacy of the subpoena. Okay. It would depend on the,

00:24:51.240 I was just told six months ago that if Steve Bannon or whoever, if some right winger does not go along

00:24:58.980 with some completely ridiculous partisan committee, like the January 6th committee, which was all

00:25:04.980 Democrats, and then two fake Republicans, Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, who effectively are 0.88

00:25:09.940 just Democrats. If Republicans don't go along with this Stalin show trial, that we're a terrible threat

00:25:16.620 to our sacred democracy. But now the Republicans get a bare majority in the House. You know that their

00:25:24.040 committees are going to have to be bipartisan committees. They say, hey, Adam Schiff, you've been pushing a lot of

00:25:28.300 this BS in the last six, seven years. Are you going to go along with a subpoena? You're a member of the

00:25:33.020 House yourself. He says, oh, well, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. Okay. On Friday, we released the

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00:26:15.660 You don't get away with anything. And so you might think you can bend the fabric of reality and that

00:26:25.100 you can treat people instrumentally and that you can bow to the tyrant and violate your conscience

00:26:29.340 without cost. You will pay the piper. It's going to call you out of that slavery into freedom,

00:26:34.560 even if that pulls you into the desert.

00:26:36.760 God is ethic-centered, not ethnic-centered.

00:26:44.040 Well, do you want the Pharaoh on your side or do you want God on your side? That's kind of the question.

00:26:51.560 There's a profound sense here that what is going on with the Israelites is the contrast to Pharaoh,

00:26:57.860 right? Like under no terms will you go? And the Israelites have to say, we will go under any terms.

00:27:03.300 And we're going to see that there's something else going on here that is far more cosmic and deeper

00:27:08.900 than what you can imagine.

00:27:10.740 The highest ethical spirit to which we're beholden is presented precisely as that spirit that allies

00:27:19.780 itself with the cause of freedom against tyranny.

00:27:23.600 Yes, exactly. I want villains to get punished.

00:27:26.220 But do you want the villains to learn before they have to pay the ultimate price?

00:27:29.540 That's such a Christian question.

00:27:33.300 You must be a member to watch this. So head on over to dailywire.com

00:27:39.120 slash subscribe to become a member and watch Exodus today. Speaking of the fight

00:27:45.660 for freedom against tyranny, Elon Musk just had a great, he just gave people a great lesson

00:27:54.220 in practical politics. My friend Liz Wheeler was reporting on the threat that Apple and Google Play

00:28:02.280 will ban Twitter from their app stores. Because Elon Musk takes over Twitter, Elon is going to let

00:28:09.060 all those terrible evil Nazis like Donald Trump back on the platform, and therefore Apple and

00:28:15.700 Google might boot it from the app store. So Liz said, if that happens, then Elon Musk has to build 0.75

00:28:22.740 his own phone, doesn't he? The guy sends rockets to Mars. You know, he can certainly build a smartphone.

00:28:27.300 Elon responds and says, yep, that is what I will do. He says, I certainly hope it does not come to

00:28:34.360 that. But yes, if there is no other choice, I will make an alternative phone. This is a really

00:28:39.460 important lesson in politics. Money talks and BS walks. A lot of times when I give speeches or do a

00:28:49.740 public appearance, people will ask me, these kind of young, ambitious, would-be politicos will come up

00:28:54.480 and say, Michael, how do I get involved in politics? And they never like the answer.

00:29:00.140 Because the answer is, if you can first, make some money. Make more money than you think you need.

00:29:06.320 Make a lot of money. They say, oh, that doesn't sound fun. I want to go, you know, I just want to

00:29:10.140 run for Congress or something. No, no, no. You got to go in with some money. The reason that Donald Trump

00:29:15.060 was able to be a bull in a china shop is because he was a self-funder. It is, again, one of the arguments

00:29:21.100 for Donald Trump over certain other candidates, his opponents this time. It's not that Trump

00:29:26.840 necessarily sees everything correctly or he doesn't make mistakes or he hires the best people.

00:29:31.000 It's not any of that. But it is that Donald Trump is much less susceptible to outside influences

00:29:36.680 because he's got a lot of money. That's what Elon Musk is saying, too. Okay. You think about all the

00:29:44.700 conservatives in politics, in Congress, in the nonprofits, and they say, we need to publish a

00:29:49.380 white paper, on a plan, on an essay, on a new book to talk about how we need to make a smartphone to

00:29:54.360 take on big tech. Or Elon Musk just comes in. He writes a check. Boom, boom, boom. Here you go.

00:29:58.040 Here's a new phone. We need, here's the new plan on how we're going to conceptualize of a new social

00:30:05.160 network to build or to maybe legislate around Twitter and Facebook and what Elon says. Okay,

00:30:11.940 44 billion. Here we go. I own Twitter now. Trump's back on. It's much simpler. Okay. Because the

00:30:17.460 problem, I'm not opposed to using the government to rein in some of these woke corporations. I'm all

00:30:23.540 for it. But the problem is the woke corporations have a ton of money and they've got a ton of

00:30:27.480 lobbyists. And half the time, they're the ones writing the bill. So it just doesn't, it doesn't

00:30:31.200 really work out. Okay. Money talks and BS walks. And this is very good news right now for Ron DeSantis

00:30:39.480 because Elon Musk announced over the weekend that he is effectively endorsing Ron DeSantis

00:30:46.080 in 2024. Elon Musk said that if DeSantis chooses to run, he will support him. Good friend to have

00:30:55.520 in your corner. I think you want one of the richest men in the world in your corner if you are running. 1.00

00:31:01.180 And Ron DeSantis, I'm sure, will welcome that money. You've seen a lot of other big money donors

00:31:06.220 who've moved over to Ron DeSantis. But this is not without danger for Ron DeSantis. And it gets back

00:31:14.980 to my central thesis on the challenge of the Ron DeSantis candidacy, which is that Ron DeSantis'

00:31:22.700 sales pitch is that he's the newer, better, younger, faster, smarter, more disciplined Donald Trump.

00:31:29.000 Trump 2.0. Trump with all the upsides, none of the downsides.

00:31:32.680 But Ron DeSantis' role in the race in which Donald Trump himself is running is necessarily

00:31:39.940 as the anti-Trump candidate. And so Ron DeSantis is just necessarily going to attract more centrists,

00:31:48.240 going to attract more anti-Trumpers, going to attack more soft liberals. Okay. And it's not

00:31:53.360 DeSantis' fault. He's governed in a conservative way, but that's just a fact of his role in the race.

00:31:59.000 So Elon Musk, when he's talking about endorsing DeSantis, he says,

00:32:04.720 as a reminder, I was a significant supporter of the Obama-Biden presidency and reluctantly voted

00:32:09.380 for Biden over Trump. But freedom of speech is the bedrock of a strong democracy and must take

00:32:14.520 precedence. My preference for the 2024 presidency is someone sensible and centrist. I had hoped that

00:32:19.800 would be the case for the Biden administration, might have been disappointed so far.

00:32:22.940 But would you endorse DeSantis? Yes. So if you're Ron DeSantis and you're running in a primary,

00:32:29.160 that's not necessarily the endorsement you want. You don't necessarily want the endorsement of a guy

00:32:33.140 who says, oh, I loved Obama. Oh, yeah, I voted for Biden over Trump. Yeah, I want someone centrist.

00:32:39.300 I don't want a conservative. That's going to be the needle that Ron DeSantis has to thread.

00:32:45.000 So right now, you're seeing a huge swing of support. I mean, virtually every conservative

00:32:50.280 pundit in the country is endorsing Ron DeSantis at this point. I think I'm the last pundit in America,

00:32:56.260 the last conservative media figure who has said, hey, guys, the election's two years out. I'm not

00:33:01.660 endorsing someone two years out in a primary before we have any of the actual primary fights. But

00:33:07.580 in terms of the media, they've gone hard for DeSantis. Then you're seeing this reflected in

00:33:14.540 some of the polls. In Iowa right now, looks like DeSantis is up. In New Hampshire, rather,

00:33:19.980 looks like DeSantis is up. Florida, obviously, DeSantis is up. So you could see the party

00:33:26.240 unite around Ron DeSantis. But that's a long ways out. Okay, the campaign has not really begun yet.

00:33:33.900 So DeSantis is going to have to constantly play this balancing game. I'm more conservative than

00:33:41.040 Trump. I'm to the right of Trump on the vaccines. I'm to the right of Trump on the lockdowns. But I'm

00:33:45.640 more centrist and sensible than Donald Trump. So please, Elon, give me your money. Please,

00:33:49.880 anti-Trumpers, come over and support me. That's going to be a tough act. If Ron DeSantis can do it,

00:33:55.780 he will be one of the most agile politicians of his generation. It's a very, very difficult dance

00:34:03.260 to dance. That's just the way that it goes. Those will be the challenges for the republic in two

00:34:12.040 years. We are facing lots of challenges right now. One of the biggest challenges, and no one is

00:34:19.360 talking about it, is that people in America have become loners. Okay, the Washington Post,

00:34:25.660 stopped clock is right twice a day. The Washington Post ran a decent column with data from the

00:34:34.780 American Time Use Survey, just looking at how many hours per week Americans are spending alone.

00:34:43.000 Americans 15 and older are spending way more time alone than they were in 2013. In 2013,

00:34:50.180 you see the numbers jump about 10 hours per week up until 2021 alone. The time with friends is way

00:35:02.680 down four hours per week. And the time with companions, as differentiated from friends,

00:35:08.320 is down about five hours per week. Now, part of this is obviously COVID because the government told us

00:35:14.720 that we couldn't go out and see our family or see our friends or go to holidays or do anything

00:35:17.820 for two years. But COVID is over. And for sensible people, COVID was over within six months.

00:35:27.360 So it doesn't quite explain how in 2021, this was still a problem and what's going on right now.

00:35:32.400 The other issue here is that because of technology, people feel like they are with

00:35:39.040 other people when in fact they are not. So they'll say, well, I'm on this social network,

00:35:43.920 so I sort of feel like I'm with people, but I'm not. I'm actually alone in my room.

00:35:46.940 Or maybe I go on to some chat or stream or even a Zoom call, but you're not really with other

00:35:55.400 people. And this gets to that same issue we were talking about earlier in the show as to why the

00:36:01.300 conservatives are probably going to lose on so many of these cultural issues. It's because there

00:36:05.480 are two distinct visions here, okay? There's the John Locke vision, the liberal vision, classical

00:36:12.780 liberal, new liberal, all the liberal visions, which is that man is essentially an individual.

00:36:18.820 Then there is the traditional vision, the conservative vision, that man is not really

00:36:23.240 ultimately an individual. Man is ultimately social, parent, political. And the problem with that difference

00:36:32.980 in visions is that both the conservatives and the liberals very often agree with the liberal vision,

00:36:37.940 that we're just ultimately individuals bored out of nothing, floating as atoms in the air,

00:36:44.160 no obligations to anybody, just do whatever you want, define your own identity, make yourself your

00:36:49.780 own God, define your own moral order, just you do you. And it's so corrosive. It's like acid. It just

00:36:56.900 destroys every institution. Because then marriage, family, ceases to be a network of obligations

00:37:06.280 and duties that bind people together. But it becomes just a sort of nice companionship to augment your

00:37:13.920 life. And then the moment that the marriage turns a little sour, you know, you start to get the seven

00:37:19.640 year itch or something. And you say, oh, this marriage is sort of bothering me now. These kids,

00:37:23.920 they're sort of a hassle. Well, what do you do? You just dissolve the marriage. That's where you get

00:37:29.460 skyrocketing divorce. It's where you get no-fault divorce. When marriage and family cease to be

00:37:38.040 a series of obligations and duties and normative behaviors, and it just becomes, if it feels good,

00:37:43.420 do it, that's when you get the complete redefinition of marriage. To say, no, it's no longer the union of

00:37:49.060 one man and one woman for the good of the spouses and the sake of the generation and education of

00:37:54.000 children. No, it's just two people who like spending time together, you know, love is love or whatever,

00:37:57.840 until it's not. And then you can break up and find somebody else. It's so corrosive. When society

00:38:04.500 ceases to be that bond of duties and obligations, then we lose the sense, as even John Kennedy pointed

00:38:10.680 out, of ask not what your country will do for you, but what you should do for your country.

00:38:16.660 Then the country just becomes the place where I live, where I could make some money and feel good.

00:38:22.700 And as long as I'm making money and feeling good, okay, great. The moment I'm not, whatever,

00:38:27.520 I'll go someplace else. The nation's borders dissolve. The nation's people dissolve. The

00:38:31.700 nation's tradition, the nation's vision, the nation's animating principle. It all just dissolves,

00:38:36.040 okay? And you don't need to go very far to see that. I actually prefer spending time by myself a lot

00:38:46.100 because I just get tired. I work, I travel. I kind of like to stay home a lot, read some books,

00:38:50.520 have a cigar. Often I will force myself to go out. Not because I necessarily want to, but I know that

00:38:57.640 it's good for me, okay? It is good for you to go out, see people. You should go to church for lots

00:39:03.880 of reasons, but it's good to go to church also for community. It's good to go out to a bar every now

00:39:08.440 and again to see people. It's good to go out into the public square. It's good to go out and see a

00:39:14.320 movie. It's good to go do stuff. It's good to go to the parties, okay? We've got Christmas coming up.

00:39:19.740 Everyone's going to start throwing Christmas parties already because we have total Advent

00:39:23.060 erasure and everyone just likes to jump ahead and Mariah Carey is going to be everywhere pretty 1.00

00:39:27.800 soon. Well, you should go to those things, okay? Because as Americans spend more time alone,

00:39:33.980 they become more miserable. They go crazier and you get lost in your own delusions. And that's why 0.99

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00:40:41.060 the great reset agenda of just putting us all in our pods and we don't see anybody and we're just

00:40:46.200 isolated, we're spending all this time alone, is that when people are broken down into this atomized

00:40:50.740 individual, we're all isolated. It's much easier to control us. It's much easier to transform society.

00:40:56.920 We are seeing it happen in real time. I hand you a viral TikTok video.

00:41:01.720 Do you think it's good for kids to see all of these sexualized things like people kissing each other, 0.99

00:41:06.220 girls kissing each other, guys in thongs, girls with bitches out, yourself? 0.99

00:41:10.920 Yes, because if you don't show them this now, then they harbor who they are as they get older. 0.98

00:41:16.140 They feel like they're not included in society. So you think sexualized activity should begin

00:41:20.520 with them at a young age? Yes, I mean, I was watching like eight years old.

00:41:24.360 And you think that's good? Yeah.

00:41:26.020 Should the LGBT be inclusive of bestiality? I don't even know what that is. 0.99

00:41:30.080 With animals. I mean, if that's what you want, then that's what you want.

00:41:34.600 You would accept that? Yeah.

00:41:35.960 Now, I know that this is just an anecdote. I know this is just one lady on TikTok.

00:41:40.680 But the plural of anecdote is data. And you see people making these sorts of arguments all the

00:41:46.000 time. And frankly, she's got a point. She goes, yeah, if we're going to tell people that it's cool

00:41:53.840 to do all this eccentric sexual stuff when they're adults, then we got to normalize it when they're

00:41:58.820 kids. They got to see that. They got to see that represented. And yeah, maybe it seems kind of

00:42:05.260 creepy like we're sexualizing kids. And yeah, maybe I'm going to advocate for bestiality and

00:42:09.240 things. But okay, whatever. Love is love, right? This is happening. Conservatives are warning that

00:42:19.400 by the time we get down the slippery slope, pretty soon they're going to normalize weird child sex 0.87

00:42:23.600 stuff. They are doing that. That is already happening. Conservatives are so good at predicting

00:42:29.200 terrible things that have already happened. It's like, pretty soon we're going to start seeing the

00:42:34.920 things that already we started seeing two years ago. And I don't want to hear that this is some

00:42:39.900 crazy conspiracy theory, okay? In the post-Jeffrey Epstein world, I never want to hear about crazy

00:42:47.060 conspiracy theories. Creepy Petto Island is real. We know about Creepy Petto Island. And we know that

00:42:53.880 Creepy Petto Island involved some of the most prominent, wealthy, powerful people on planet Earth. So I don't

00:42:58.980 want to hear about it. You saw that Balenciaga ad, that bizarre Balenciaga ad we covered last week,

00:43:04.320 where it was little kids kind of frowning, holding up like a dominatrix, like a S&M kind of clad

00:43:12.040 teddy bear. And conservatives pointed out, this is really weird. And actually, one of the Balenciaga

00:43:18.560 products was on top of a Supreme Court case about child pornography. And then what happened? There was

00:43:27.160 an outcry. And Balenciaga pulled it down and said, we're looking into legal recourse against the people

00:43:34.260 who put this set together. So even now, the liberals want to brush us under the rug. But

00:43:38.740 Balenciaga itself acknowledged, this is sick. This is bad. We got caught, but this is weird.

00:43:43.900 What's going on with this child sex stuff? Kim Kardashian, who does a lot of work with Balenciaga, 0.98

00:43:48.760 she came out, she said, this is really disturbing, but it's happening, okay? Someone gave the okay on

00:43:53.580 the set. Someone gave the okay on the photos. Someone gave the okay putting it on the website.

00:43:57.820 Right. We know, apparently American intelligence knew about Creepy Peto Island because when Jim

00:44:04.300 Acosta, not Jim Acosta, Alex Acosta, not the terrible CNN talking head, but Alex Acosta,

00:44:09.740 who was up for labor secretary under Trump and he was US attorney before that, he was US attorney

00:44:13.380 prosecuting Jeffrey Epstein. When he went after Jeffrey Epstein, in his own words, apparently he was

00:44:18.580 told, no, no, no, forget about Epstein, he belongs to intelligence. So we know that this is happening with

00:44:23.320 the ascent of lots and lots of people. Okay. Now, what can we do about that? This is, again,

00:44:33.240 one of the arguments for Trump. I don't want it to seem like I'm just shilling for Trump or something

00:44:38.480 like that. I'm not. I recognize the man has lots of flaws. I recognize it's not 2016. He's a little

00:44:43.200 bit older. He's going to have stronger challenges this time. I really am just keeping an open mind

00:44:47.980 here. And the fact that I think I'm probably the last conservative public figure who hasn't totally

00:44:54.320 tossed this guy under the bus makes it seem relatively like I'm more pro-Trump. And I do

00:44:59.040 love the guy. I mean, he's the greatest president of my lifetime. And one of the arguments though for

00:45:04.300 him is he is perceived, rightly, I think, to be outside of the system. That there is this weird

00:45:13.740 system. There's this weird political system where no matter who gets elected, we get more immigration.

00:45:20.580 We get more offshoring. We get more of the weird sex stuff. We get more of our sovereignty given

00:45:26.600 away to international institutions. We get more of the same foreign policy. It doesn't matter.

00:45:32.640 Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, liberals, it doesn't matter. Except for Trump. Trump actually

00:45:37.800 did different things. He changed US trade policy. He changed, at least in the early years of his

00:45:44.560 administration, before he got shut down, he changed immigration policy. He changed foreign policy. He

00:45:51.460 gave you an actual different foreign policy than you saw from Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush. He gave you

00:45:56.660 something different, okay? And so you still get the sense that he is not part of the system. Now,

00:46:04.300 the same could be said for Kanye West, actually. This is why I think Trump was probably smart

00:46:08.820 to take Kanye's presidential announcement somewhat seriously. Because the Kanye West campaign

00:46:15.940 has certain aesthetic similarities to the Trump 2016 campaign. People thought it was a joke.

00:46:23.380 People didn't take it seriously. He had all sorts of eccentric, some might say unsavory characters

00:46:28.180 around him. There are some similarities there, okay? You're always waiting for the next tweet.

00:46:35.400 People are looking up the next Kanye West tweet, just as they were looking up the next Donald Trump

00:46:39.600 tweet. Now, I don't think that Kanye can assemble the Trump coalition. I just don't see how he does

00:46:46.000 that. There was a path for Trump to do that in 2016, and it was basically just to be Pat Buchanan.

00:46:52.580 The way to do it in 2016 for Trump was to be the old right, kind of Pat Buchanan, anti-bushy,

00:47:03.880 added on with this huge celebrity, with this huge amount of wealth. I don't know that you see that

00:47:11.040 from Kanye. I think Kanye is a little trippy in some of the things he talks about. When you hear Kanye

00:47:15.600 talk about his political program, it's not as basic as Trump. Build the wall, fix trade,

00:47:22.900 stop the stupid wars. Kanye is much more out there and kind of esoteric. And so I just don't, 1.00

00:47:28.280 I don't really see that happening. But that is the appeal to a Trump or even a Kanye. The appeal is,

00:47:35.800 wow, this system is really sick and broken, and I don't like it. I want to vote for an alternative

00:47:42.920 because I feel like I'm being played. And no matter which suit I vote for with the red tie or the blue

00:47:47.680 tie, we're getting effectively the same sorts of things, okay? The argument for Trump was that

00:47:54.860 Trump wasn't really a Republican, that Trump had this hostile takeover with the Republican Party,

00:48:00.440 and that the relationship of Trump to the Republican Party was sort of a quid pro quo.

00:48:04.460 Oh, he helps us win an election. Okay, the party gives me something of an organization,

00:48:07.880 but they're not the same thing. They don't really like each other, okay?

00:48:10.640 Now, speaking of quid pro quo, this is a story I wanted to get to last week.

00:48:17.140 The Biden administration is being accused of engaging in a quid pro quo with the Saudis,

00:48:25.380 that the Saudi government assassinated this guy, Jamal Khashoggi, who was portrayed in the West by our

00:48:32.920 propaganda media as this intrepid journalist standing up, speaking truth to power.

00:48:37.180 That wasn't really true. He was just a Saudi spy and a political operative. But that was the way

00:48:41.080 he was presented in the West. And so there's a lot of pressure on Biden to punish Mohammed bin

00:48:44.440 Salman, who's the leader of Saudi Arabia. But Biden can punish Mohammed bin Salman because we rely on

00:48:49.560 Saudi Arabia right now to help fix the oil prices. And me and Saudi Arabia has been a longtime ally.

00:48:54.660 So what happened? The Biden administration said we are not going to hold MBS and Saudi Arabia

00:48:59.720 accountable for the killing of Jamal Khashoggi. Now he's being accused of a quid pro quo.

00:49:03.880 Is there any quid pro quo behind that, that that were being nicer to them and they might cooperate?

00:49:12.460 There's no quid pro quo. I think the decision on on the immunity was a strict legal decision

00:49:19.540 by the lawyers about him becoming a prime minister and determination that was made by the lawyers.

00:49:25.980 That was not done by policymakers, but really just a legal one. As far as their decision to cut,

00:49:32.640 you know, we you know, you and I may disagree on that. I think that a two million cut announcement

00:49:37.500 at the time was we did not believe was warranted. I think that prices were at about 88 or 87 when

00:49:45.140 they announced that it went up to almost $100 and settled back down, mostly because, you know,

00:49:51.040 when you announce a cut at two million, what we all know is that two million is not going to be cut.

00:49:55.760 And most countries are not in a position to cut production and definitely not cut exports.

00:50:01.300 So I think that where their deliberations are not connected to the policymaking.

00:50:06.120 So it's not absolutely not a quid pro quo. OK, this was just we we were following the law and just

00:50:12.860 that's why we can't hold this guy accountable in any sort of way for killing this spy in Turkey.

00:50:17.760 And it has nothing to do with the oil and nothing to do with our longstanding.

00:50:21.660 What are you talking about, bro? This is so stupid and nobody believes it for a second. 1.00

00:50:26.540 Of course, it's a quid pro quo. All of politics is a quid pro quo, 1.00

00:50:31.460 certainly when we're talking about international politics. That's what it is. OK, we need something

00:50:37.900 from Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia needs something from us. And then you negotiate and that's it.

00:50:43.120 And by the way, this was another of the arguments for Trump was the art of the deal. Now, some people

00:50:47.880 will say, well, he didn't get the art of the deal done quite as well as I wanted him to. And so

00:50:51.300 regardless of the reality of it, I'm just saying that was the argument is that Trump looked at

00:50:57.100 politics not as this pie in the sky, grandiose sort of liberal vision. But he said, no, you know,

00:51:04.060 look, I'm going to fix that. I'm going to fix that. Look, we can negotiate here. Get off your high

00:51:08.700 horse. We're just going to talk. OK, we're going to get things done. All right. And I think that

00:51:12.860 is how the conservatives, as we look ahead at what's going to be the longest presidential

00:51:17.620 primary ever, as we look at these candidates, I think we all need to get off our high horse a

00:51:23.400 little bit. I think we need to back away from the Donald Trump is a he's a Nazi, evil, terrible, 0.99

00:51:30.660 worst president and back away from the Ron DeSantis is just an establishment shell. He's basically just 0.99

00:51:35.580 Jeb Bush or whatever. And back away from all the other candidates who could run and just say,

00:51:40.320 look, we've got some we've got some good options here. OK, it's it's a good it's a good problem to

00:51:47.260 have. We've got some good options here who are running for president. We're going to let this

00:51:50.260 thing play out. These are all big boys and we do not put our faith in princes. OK, we are not here

00:51:56.220 looking for some suit to save our country, you know, in the sense of. In a religious sense,

00:52:06.640 I mean, we're not that's not we're looking for a guy to fix stuff and put the country back on track

00:52:12.340 and it's going to be an imperfect guy. But that's what we need. And so they're tough guys. They can

00:52:17.440 duke it out. And then we will pick our nominee. We won't we won't pick our nominee based on which

00:52:24.620 which person the media are least likely to call a Nazi or something. We're going to pick our nominee

00:52:30.460 on a quid pro quo. Who is going to give us the best policy, the lead the country in the best

00:52:36.540 possible way until the next guy we do it all over again. Now, today's Music Monday. Speaking of

00:52:42.720 cultural matters, you know, I'm a hip hop total music maven. And so usually we go straight to the

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00:52:53.460 out a dollar for the Daily Wire membership. But not today. It's Cyber Monday. All right. So we're going to

00:52:58.240 leave this open right now. You should never miss another member block. OK, click the link in the

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00:53:11.500 Have yourself a merry little Christmas. Get Ben Davies in here. I said it.

00:53:19.820 Get your heart. I can't. I'm so filled with rage. For those of you who have

00:53:27.800 I'm taking my earpiece out. For those of you who have not tuned into the member block before.

00:53:36.120 As we transition into the member block, my producer Ben Davies plays a song and this that

00:53:41.280 or the other thing. But one thing he's been doing recently, he's been playing Christmas music. And I

00:53:45.640 said, you don't play Christmas music until Christmas. Because to do so, to do so before Thanksgiving

00:53:55.020 is obviously ridiculous. To do so before Christmas is Advent erasure. It is not Christmas. Jesus Christ 0.91

00:54:01.940 is not yet born. Well, he is born, but we're not recognizing that as part of the liturgical year

00:54:05.380 yet. You wait until Christmas. And until Christmas, you play O Come, O Come, Emmanuel, or Come Thou Long

00:54:13.220 Expected Jesus. And I said, when they did it again, they did it to me last week. And I said, Ben Davies,

00:54:18.960 the next time you play Christmas music in that transition, you are fired from this company.

00:54:26.100 Oh, I know it's the, I know it's the Advent season and I'm supposed to cultivate a spirit of

00:54:32.060 resignation. I'm supposed to cultivate a spirit of charity.

00:54:36.580 Maybe, maybe I'll leave it up to the members. Not to all of you hoi polloi out there who are 1.00

00:54:47.900 contemplating, do I get a membership? Do I join the creme de la creme, the inner circle of the

00:54:51.480 Michael Dole Show? But the members, if you think that I should grant a reprieve and a pardon to Ben

00:54:57.460 Davies, this time, maybe I will. Maybe. If not, off with his head. Put my earpiece back in.

00:55:08.360 So furious. Oh, I'm shaking. I'm literally shaking. What was everybody saying today?

00:55:14.900 Let's see. O Come, All Ye Faithful, Itachi of Konoha says. O Come, All Ye Faithful,

00:55:20.540 another Advent song. That's true. Okay, that's the third option. Let's see. Unquiet Centra says,

00:55:25.680 Davies knows that we like angry gnolls. I know I lose my temper like three times a year,

00:55:30.140 but I'm losing it. Advent erasure is what does it to me.

00:55:36.540 Okay, Zuby, Michael drew a Christmas music line and Ben Davies not only crossed that line,

00:55:41.260 but demolished. I know this is the problem is I'm going to look like Obama now if I don't fire him.

00:55:45.220 Because remember Obama said, well, if Bashar Assad uses certain weapons in Syria,

00:55:50.320 that would be a red line. And then what happened? Bashar Assad used the weapons,

00:55:52.860 crossed the red line, and Obama did nothing.

00:55:54.540 So now I'm going to look like Obama if I don't fire him.

00:55:57.900 You let me know. You let me know, members, if I should fire Davies over this. I'm furious.

00:56:05.420 Advent, you don't mess with sick Michael. I know. Well, this is the problem.

00:56:09.260 You can probably hear that I'm a little bit stuffy. I went up to visit my in-laws. We went up with my

00:56:15.300 wife and my two children. And we saw my sister-in-law and her two children and the whole family.

00:56:20.340 But little kids are just petri dishes. They're petri dishes filled with every sickness,

00:56:28.340 variants of COVID that do not yet exist or that have not been classified. And then what the kids

00:56:33.240 do is they just climb all over you and spit on you and just they're drooly. And it's, yeah.

00:56:39.300 Anyway, I'll try to get better soon. Let's see. Ben deserves a pardon, says Barrel of Monkeys.

00:56:46.580 Guys, we'll see. We'll see about that. Elizabeth, good night from South Korea. Merry Christmas,

00:56:52.500 everybody. Not going to wait, Michael. Are you really in South Korea? That's very impressive.

00:56:57.880 Let's see. All right. A lot of people are saying, pardon Ben Davies. I don't know.

00:57:03.500 No, so remember where the gun says Michael don't squish. You taught me that last week.

00:57:07.260 Fire your producer. I might, maybe I should. I don't know. I'm really torn on all of this, guys.

00:57:14.060 Guys, keep, pardon Davies. Okay, it's starting to trend. All right. You're being too nice to Ben

00:57:20.580 Davies, so I'm going to turn away from that. I don't want to see that. There were also a couple

00:57:25.140 updates from the elections that I meant to get to last week and we haven't had time,

00:57:30.280 but I'll give it to you. The creme de la creme, the inner circle here. So there's still two house

00:57:34.260 races that have not yet been decided. How many days are we after the election day right now?

00:57:38.040 Like three weeks after the election. But there have been some wins. My friend Lauren Boebert has

00:57:44.420 won her race in Colorado. So I really like Lauren Boebert. She's now going to be a two-term 0.85

00:57:52.600 congressman. Hopefully she'll be there a lot longer after that. But she faced this really tough battle

00:57:57.920 in this last election. And the media made a huge deal of it. We're going to get Lauren Boebert. 0.83

00:58:03.680 They hate her guts because she's a rock-ribbed conservative. And so they were just really

00:58:07.520 gunning after her. And you heard, this is going to be a huge upset. And then her opponent conceded

00:58:11.460 and the story went away. But we should spike the football. The libs, they thought they had her. 1.00

00:58:17.440 They were so excited. Then the whole thing went away when she won. But I think we should give her

00:58:22.200 a round of applause because that was good. They really went after this woman with everything they

00:58:25.960 had. And she beat them, which I love. Okay, let's get to the song. So the song is

00:58:30.960 Let You Down. The artist is N.F., who I've never heard of, has 8.6 million subscribers. Oh my gosh.

00:58:40.020 The video has 225 million views. This was released five years ago. Okay. So N.F. is an American. 0.84

00:58:48.160 Is that, am I pronouncing that right or is it pronounced oomph? It's N.F. Okay, it's not oomph, oomph, oomph.

00:58:54.520 Is an American rapper, singer, songwriter, record producer. He achieved mainstream popularity in 2017

00:58:58.840 with his album Perception, which charted at number one in the U.S. and was certified platinum. Wow.

00:59:04.260 Man, I'm so out of the culture. I am so. The other day, a Sugar Ray song came on in the airport.

00:59:12.260 Remember Sugar Ray? Like, I just want to fly. And I thought in my head, I was like, wow, this is,

00:59:16.280 you know, I kind of like modern music. This song's 30 years old. It's just like, oh, wow. Yeah,

00:59:20.680 man, I'm hip. I'm cool. How do you do, fellow kids? All right, let's play the song.

00:59:23.440 I don't want a lot for Christmas. There is just one thing I need.

00:59:45.680 I, paradoxically, that actually sort of mitigates my fury at Ben Davies because you really got me.

00:59:52.000 Is that the new Rickroll? I think the new Rickroll is just going to be that stupid Mariah Carey song 0.99

00:59:59.940 that people start playing in August and then that goes through. Wow, really good. Listen, I know this 0.99

01:00:08.860 is a controversial opinion. This is probably going to be much more controversial than anything I've

01:00:12.460 said today about Donald Trump or Kanye West or anything like that. I kind of like the Mariah

01:00:18.500 Carey song. I kind of like it. It's happy. It's bubbly. It's pop. What's wrong? Let's see.

01:00:28.440 Off with it. Well-played, Ben, says Abby. Yeah, that's pretty, that's pretty funny. Well-played.

01:00:33.440 That's good. That's good. Look. Ben Davies says we still have a real song. Do we, we actually do

01:00:38.620 have the other song? Alright, let's continue the other song. Have I heard the song?

01:00:51.360 I'm sorry that I let you down. Let you down. All these voices in my head get loud. I wish

01:01:01.400 I could shut them out. I'm sorry that I let you down. Let you down. Yeah.

01:01:11.500 I guess I'm a disappointment. Doing everything I can. I don't want to make you disappointed.

01:01:15.880 It's annoying. I just want to make you feel like everything I ever do is never trying to

01:01:18.860 make an issue for you. But I guess the more you thought about everything was never even

01:01:22.260 wrong in the first place, right? Yeah, I'ma just ignore you, walking towards you.

01:01:25.760 With my head down, looking at the ground, I'm embarrassed for you. Paranoia. What did I do wrong

01:01:29.840 and this time there's parents for you? Very loyal. Should've had my back, would you

01:01:33.240 put a knife in my hand before? What else should I carry for you? I cares for you, buddy.

01:01:37.540 I'm on the edge right now. I wish that I could say I'm proud. I'm sorry that I let you

01:01:45.160 down. Let you down. All these voices in my head get loud. I wish that I could shut them

01:01:55.040 down. I'm sorry that I let you down.

01:01:59.840 Let that dance you down. Take a pause right there. It's actually a sort of fitting song

01:02:04.220 for the holidays because, you know, when you're a kid, the holidays are so great, especially

01:02:08.360 Christmas. You wake up, you're on the presents. It's all just perfect. But then as you get

01:02:12.720 older, people start to get sad around the holidays because people are dead and, you know, you're

01:02:18.820 no longer a child anymore. And so it just becomes much, much harder. And, you know, I don't

01:02:22.720 know, your cousin, your sibling got divorced and, you know, this person went away and whatever.

01:02:28.100 It just becomes more haunting, you know, and people are looking back and saying, oh,

01:02:35.240 if only I'd said this, if only we had done this. Look how much smaller the table is this

01:02:38.600 year. Look at, oh, it's so sad. And so for a lot of people, you know, this probably does

01:02:44.160 resonate. So far, the song seems a little bit indulgent to me about daddy issues and all

01:02:48.660 this sort of thing. But let's say, keep going.

01:02:51.180 Yeah. You don't want to make this work. You just want to make this worse. Want me to listen

01:02:54.820 to you, but you don't ever hear my words. You don't want to know my hurt yet. Let me

01:02:58.260 guess. You want an apology, probably. How can we keep going at a rate like this? We can't

01:03:02.860 so I guess I'm going to have to leave. Please don't come after me. I just want to be alone

01:03:06.120 right now. I don't really want to think at all. Go ahead, just drink it all. Vote now,

01:03:09.340 you're going to call tomorrow. Like nothing's wrong. Ain't that what you always do? I feel

01:03:12.340 like every time I talk to you, you're in an awful mood. What else can I offer you? There's nothing left

01:03:15.860 right now. I'll give it all to you on the edge right now. I wish that I could say I'm proud.

01:03:22.700 I'm sorry that I let you down. Let you down. But all these voices in my head get loud.

01:03:32.320 I wish that I could shut them out. I'm sorry that I let you down. Let you down.

01:03:41.640 Yeah, don't talk down to me. That's not going to work now. Packed all my clothes and I moved

01:03:47.100 out. I don't even want to go to your house. Every time I sit on that couch, I feel like

01:03:51.280 you lecture me eventually. I bet that we could have made this work and probably would have

01:03:54.620 figured things out. But I guess I'm a letdown. But it's cool. I checked out. Oh, you want

01:03:58.360 to be friends now? Okay, let's put my fake face on and pretend now. Sit around and talk

01:04:02.420 about the good times. That didn't even happen. I mean, why are you laughing? Must have missed that

01:04:06.300 joke. Let me see if I can find a reaction. No, but at least you're happy. It's like we're

01:04:10.460 on the edge right now. You said I could say I'm proud. That's a really cutting line where

01:04:17.280 you say, okay, yeah, we had this terrible history together. But now you want to sit and laugh

01:04:22.580 about the good times that didn't even happen. And that's so true. People forget this. And

01:04:26.200 I think it is sort of a cure to Christmastime melancholy, which is that nostalgia is history after

01:04:33.480 a few drinks, okay? The good old days were not as good as you remember them, okay? And the present

01:04:39.880 is not as bad as you might perceive it to be. And who knows about the future? The future does not

01:04:44.940 exist yet. So another reminder, it actually ties in with what we were talking about on the show today,

01:04:53.180 is that we have obligations to our family. And we don't really perceive this anymore. This is why

01:05:00.060 you see the decline in people visiting their family for Thanksgiving. You see an

01:05:03.400 increase in Friendsgiving. You ever hear that phrase? Oh, we're just having Friendsgiving this

01:05:07.860 year. And you don't see your family, but you just see the people that you already like. And as though

01:05:12.280 this were some novel sort of innovation. Wow, we've progressed so much. We've discovered that we

01:05:18.380 enjoy spending time with our chosen companions more than with our families with whom we have some

01:05:22.820 problems. Yeah, no way. You don't say, buddy. Of course, that's been true for all of history for

01:05:27.520 everybody. But nevertheless, nevertheless, you have an obligation in virtually all circumstances. I guess

01:05:36.420 there are some exceptions, obviously. But you have an obligation to see your family. You will regret it

01:05:41.900 if you don't. Even though you don't like your sister, and even though you've got some beef with

01:05:49.200 your dad or whatever, go. Do it. You are not an island unto yourself. And you will derive far greater

01:05:59.080 meaning and joy, even, I suspect, from the fulfillment of your natural obligations to honor

01:06:04.860 your father and your mother than you will from indulging some individual pleasure, you know, to sit

01:06:12.080 at home and watch a movie instead of going to grandma's house for Christmas Eve. Keep going.

01:06:15.280 I'm sorry that I let you down. Oh, I let you down. All these voices in my head get loud. And I wish

01:06:26.780 that I could shut them apart. I'm sorry that I let you down. Oh, I let you down.

01:06:35.740 Yeah, I like that well enough, you know? A little sappy, a little indulgent, as is most modern music,

01:06:56.960 but I liked it. What did the audience think?

01:07:05.740 Tra-la-la-la. Oh, it looks like the comments froze up. They froze. There are probably too many people

01:07:10.120 here checking it out, heading on over to the member block. Let's see. Did we? Oh, Arun says,

01:07:19.540 hey, my meeting was canceled. Hey, Arun, what's up? Arun, one of the, you know, real stars of the

01:07:23.700 Michael Knowles show, member group. Did we find out how to pronounce NF? Yeah, I'm going to continue

01:07:28.580 to say oomph. That's kind of cool. Oomph, oomph. Flying Mind says, I like the Mariah Carey song too. I do not

01:07:35.720 apologize for saying it, nor do I. Nor do I. I'd listen to Mariah Carey all day over, The Little Drummer Boy.

01:07:40.920 I cannot agree with that, Becca. There's a great version of The Little Drummer Boy, where Bing Crosby

01:07:46.560 was already kind of old, and David Bowie, for some reason, is singing it, and it's the two of them there,

01:07:52.220 and it's just really weird and bizarre and fabulous. Recommend that. Love the song, Michael. Did you get a cold?

01:07:58.560 Yeah, I think I have the Alpha, Sigma, Omega, Lambda, Kappa, Epsilon variant of COVID.

01:08:03.680 That's the one where you just permanently have COVID, and it's especially true if you have two

01:08:09.000 children under the age of two. You just permanently have it, and so I think I need to smoke some more

01:08:13.920 cigars. Just blast that smoke through my congestion. Let's see. Dernhelm of Rohan says, Michael, no,

01:08:24.840 it's an overplayed, cheesy, not well-written, sappy, stupid romance song that bills itself as Christmas. 0.99

01:08:29.060 That is true of most modern Christmas celebrations, okay? So if you're going to get rid of that, 0.99

01:08:34.620 you're going to get rid of most of what goes on in the public square.

01:08:37.280 Okay, I'm Michael Laws. This is The Michael Law Show. We'll see you tomorrow.

The Michael Knowles Show - November 28, 2022

Ep. 1133 - The Trump & Kanye Dinner Heard Round The World

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