The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 1137 - Kanye Headlines The Craziest Broadcast In History


Summary

Kanye West calls out Alex Jones for calling him a Nazi in an interview on his new show on the Alex Jones Show. President Trump is no longer the most controversial candidate in the 2020 election, and Hillary Clinton is now the front-runner.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Some things happened yesterday. Some things were said.
00:00:06.320 On the bright side, though, at least Donald Trump is no longer the most controversial
00:00:11.160 candidate in the race. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:00:22.200 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Top10Guy1,
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00:02:01.200 5, 0% off your very first month. Anything happen in the news yesterday? Is there, I don't know,
00:02:10.260 I was sort of scrolling through, and oh, yes, I saw the Alex Jones interview heard round the world.
00:02:18.640 I had a lot of work that I was supposed to do yesterday, could not do any of it because I,
00:02:23.520 like so many people, was glued to my screen. I didn't even at first know where to find this
00:02:28.800 Alex Jones show. I just was blowing up all over social media. Kanye West is on Alex Jones saying all
00:02:35.180 sorts of crazy things, and so I found the link, I think, on Rumble or something. Kanye in his own
00:02:41.540 words. I see good things about Hitler also. I love everyone, and Jewish people are not going to tell
00:02:48.060 me, you can love us, and you can love what we're doing to you with the contracts, and you can love
00:02:57.160 what we're, you know, what we're pushing with the pornography. But this guy that invented highways,
00:03:04.040 invented the very microphone that I use as a musician, you can't say out loud that this person
00:03:08.900 ever did anything good, and I'm done with that. I'm done with the classifications. Every human being
00:03:15.520 has something of value that they brought to the table, especially Hitler. How about that one?
00:03:21.580 Ari Emanuel, how you like that one? Hey, Ron, you going to do anything to fix Chicago?
00:03:25.740 Even like our truth, the fact that African Americans were in America before the pilgrims,
00:03:32.700 that truth is hidden, that we are actually the Native Americans, or some of us are Native.
00:03:38.680 So a couple of fact checks here. Black people were not in America before the pilgrims,
00:03:48.440 and they are not the Native Americans, the real Native Americans. And also, you do not,
00:03:54.960 in fact, have to hand it to Hitler. You never actually have to hand it to Hitler. And this,
00:04:04.000 for those who are just listening right now and can't see it, Kanye is wearing this full kind of
00:04:10.040 gimp suit, head mask thing, so you can't see his face. Throughout the interview, Alex Jones keeps saying,
00:04:17.740 is this really even Kanye that I'm talking to? It's an amazing thing to watch Alex Jones be made
00:04:23.920 uncomfortable in an interview because he comes out and he says, well, listen, people are calling you
00:04:29.760 a Nazi, but you're not a Nazi. And Kanye says, well, so that was very, very jarring. It's why everyone
00:04:39.340 tuned in, in the first place. But then, Kanye complicates his declaration of love for the Nazis
00:04:48.020 by declaring love for all sorts of other people.
00:04:51.100 I love the Zionists. I love the people that, that blocked my bank account because God runs the
00:04:58.880 world and uses everyone. I do love Hitler. I do love the Zionists. I love everyone. I love Jewish
00:05:06.040 people. I love Jewish people. We're talking about Stanley Kubrick. But Jesus is King, and I love
00:05:12.140 everyone. This is love speech, Ari. This is love speech in Jesus' name, the real King of Israel,
00:05:22.100 Jesus Christ. This is love speech. I love Jewish people. I love supermodels. I love everyone
00:05:32.380 accordingly from all the way from the Balenciagas to the Hitlers. Let me tell you a story. Hold on,
00:05:39.600 sir. Okay. To Ari Emanuel, to Jamie Dimon, to the people who, I love all of those.
00:05:45.600 You love Mao Zedong? Absolutely. Mao Roth. Well, clarify that. You're saying you're like
00:05:50.140 Christlike. You love everybody. Yeah. No matter, you love Jim Jones. You love Jeffrey Dahmer.
00:05:55.340 Absolutely. Okay, well, let's clarify. So you would assume that when someone says,
00:06:01.300 I love Hitler and I love the Nazis, that would be followed by, and I hate the Jews. But Kanye follows it
00:06:07.800 here by, I love the Jews. I love the Zionists. I love supermodels. I love Mao Zedong. I love Ari
00:06:13.460 Emanuel. I love Stalin. I love Lamp. I don't know. I love all of these things. But then he goes on and
00:06:22.500 does seem to have a special sort of ire for the Jews. And this is what led into another episode of this
00:06:29.180 three-hour-long interview that went viral as well, when Kanye pulled out an aquarium net and a bottle
00:06:38.780 of Yoohoo to do a sort of carrot-top prop comedy routine about the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin
00:06:47.520 Net and Yoohoo.
00:06:50.620 Net and Yoohoo. What we did is we brought Net and Yoohoo with us.
00:07:00.020 I'm in the twilight zone right now.
00:07:02.720 Net and Yoohoo, what do you have to say? What do you have to say to Alex Jones right now,
00:07:08.060 Nick Fuentes and Ye?
00:07:10.760 It was bad. It was bad for Trump to meet with Nick and Ye. Okay.
00:07:17.000 I had no idea your voice was going to sound like that, Net and Yoohoo.
00:07:23.880 So you don't like Benjamin Net and Yoohoo?
00:07:27.660 You get it? It's a net and Yoohoo. And he's sitting there with Nick Fuentes, who is working
00:07:34.920 on his campaign and who was at that Trump dinner and caused all the big stir. And then, however,
00:07:41.320 the interview took another turn and specifically on the whole Net and Yoohoo bit, he takes it in this
00:07:47.620 very personal direction. If I say something that's provocative towards the Mossad, is that
00:07:54.280 misogynistic? Hold on, let's hear from Net. Hey, I'm the head of the Mossad. I'm gonna kill you and
00:08:03.100 take your children away from you. Thanks a lot, Netting. Back to you, Alex. Please turn your
00:08:08.520 microphone around, sir. Man, I'm definitely overwhelmed here right now. Infowars.com,
00:08:15.740 tomorrow's news today. Listen, all I'm trying to get through here is, I believe every group
00:08:21.060 should be able to- I switched his name to Netting. I dropped the Yahoo so we didn't have to. I was
00:08:26.400 tired of picking up the Yahoo and the Netting. So for now, he's just Netting. I know some people
00:08:31.900 call him BB. I know some of you call him Yahoo, but we're gonna call him Netting. What you want,
00:08:39.860 Netting? Hey, yay, right after this, I'm gonna say you're crazy. I'm gonna take your family away
00:08:44.400 from you. We're not done with you yet. You cannot cause free thought. We have to control the history
00:08:50.080 books. We have to control the banks. And we have to go and kill people. Also, we're in the
00:08:54.640 So, at this point in the interview, if you're still watching, you're starting to think, okay,
00:09:04.720 something's gone even more off the rails here than at other times in Ye's public career. And then
00:09:12.300 he takes it all the way personal. So it starts out with Hitler and the Jews. Then it goes,
00:09:18.680 I love everybody. I love LAMP. I love the Jews. It's not just that I love Hitler. I
00:09:24.620 love the Jews. But really, I don't like Benjamin Netanyahu and Israel. But really,
00:09:29.020 this is all about this personal stuff, my family, my kids, my life. And then he kind of ditches the
00:09:36.880 BB Netanyahu thing and just gets right into his personal family problems.
00:09:43.100 My security is the fact that I didn't load up pornography last night. And I said,
00:09:48.140 this addiction is gonna have to flee from me. This addiction, since I was five years old,
00:09:53.060 that has destroyed my mom and my dad's family, that destroyed my family. When I take full
00:09:59.480 accountability for the destruction of my marriage, I'll point at the liberals and say,
00:10:05.480 you took my wife from me. You know what took my wife from me? The fact that I was married to this
00:10:09.620 beautiful person, but I felt like it wasn't enough. I felt like I still needed to look at pornography.
00:10:15.080 In some way, I'd say to her, well, stop making these images. Stop breaking the internet. That original term
00:10:20.260 comes from my ex-wife actually having a nude photo that I didn't know about that someone
00:10:25.960 used her and put it on a magazine. But there's somewhere where she's like, well,
00:10:29.620 if my husband is looking at this, I still want to be like the girls that are doing this. And this
00:10:34.600 becomes people reliving the traumas, pushing the addiction.
00:10:38.140 So this was the most amazing part of the interview, and nobody's talking about it. Because he says,
00:10:44.760 look, I blame the liberals for breaking up my family, but it wasn't the liberals, it was me.
00:10:49.240 But Kanye doesn't blame the liberals. He blames the Jews in other places, or the Zionists,
00:10:53.440 or the whoever, for breaking up his family. Or Benjamin Netanyahu is gonna come and take his
00:10:57.080 family. But then in this moment, probably the most lucid moment of the interview, he says,
00:11:01.320 but it wasn't them, meaning the liberals, or elsewhere he said it's the Jews. It was me.
00:11:08.460 It was me, because I looked at pornography, and I did it, and so I lost my family.
00:11:14.060 There are three defining struggles in Kanye West's public career that we've seen.
00:11:20.880 The first one is mental disorder, meaning his mind just gets disordered. And he's talking about
00:11:27.680 how black people were here before the Native Americans or something, right? Among all the
00:11:32.020 other things he said, he just said things that are just so manifestly incoherent and obviously not
00:11:38.540 true. Then there's performance art. Kanye West has always been this wild performance artist.
00:11:45.780 George Bush doesn't like black people. Taylor Swift, I'm gonna take your award from you,
00:11:49.320 and I'll let you finish, but Beyonce had the better album. You gotta give this album
00:11:53.020 to Beyonce. Then he goes a step further. He says slavery was a choice, right? One of the most
00:11:59.040 shocking and offensive things you can possibly say. Then he took it up another level when he put
00:12:03.500 the MAGA hat on, wearing that MAGA hat, which this was after the media had called Trump the devil
00:12:10.720 for however long. He says, that's the most offensive, provocative thing I can possibly do.
00:12:14.800 You tell me I can't do it, that's what I'm going to do. And then he took it to its absolute perfect
00:12:19.280 extreme by saying, I like Hitler. I like Hitler is the most shocking and offensive thing you can
00:12:23.860 possibly say in our culture. Hitler is synonymous with the devil in our language. It's why he didn't
00:12:30.660 get the same reaction when he says, I love Mao, I love Stalin. People can get away with saying,
00:12:33.800 I love Mao, I love Stalin. Well, you can hand it to them. You can wear a shake of our shirt, whatever.
00:12:38.740 In our language, Hitler is synonymous with the devil. In fact, worse than the devil,
00:12:43.120 because Hitler was incarnate. The devil's just a spirit. Hitler was incarnate. And so you see,
00:12:48.480 even taking aside, maybe Kanye hates the Jews, maybe Kanye's a Nazi, whatever. You just see that
00:12:53.420 as the extreme manifestation of that kind of performance art. And then the third one,
00:12:58.060 which no one's talking about, is this guy just lost his whole family. And if you've ever known
00:13:02.440 someone who's gone through a divorce, they go kind of crazy most of the time. And especially if they've
00:13:07.040 already got these sort of underlying mental issues and these underlying artistic issues where you were
00:13:13.760 naturally drawn to these extremes, when something like that happens, people can just break. And so
00:13:18.820 it's why I'm not going to make fun of Kanye West. It's why I'm not even going to really
00:13:23.180 engage too seriously in any of the claims he's making, whether it's about Hitler or the black
00:13:30.200 Native Americans or Bibi Netanyahu. I mean, when he was laughing manically with the yoohoo in one hand
00:13:36.340 and the net in another, I just think it's a really cheap shot to make fun of somebody or to castigate
00:13:44.200 somebody too seriously. And he was just kicked off of Twitter because he posted a star of David
00:13:50.400 with a swastika in the middle. And people are assuming this is just another declaration of his
00:13:54.820 love for the Nazis. It's actually not. That's a symbol of what's called the Raylism movement.
00:13:59.680 The Raylian movement was this movement from the 1970s founded by a guy named Claude Vorhillon.
00:14:08.560 And I'll see if I, yeah, here, so the symbol is this little pendant that they would wear of the
00:14:13.340 star of David with the swastika in the middle. But it's this idea, it's this kind of crazy cult
00:14:18.220 that believes that there are all these aliens and that you get abducted by aliens and that the word
00:14:27.220 Elohim, you know, the word for God is a plural term, which means those who came from the sky
00:14:32.700 and they would wear these sort of extraterrestrial symbols. So anyway, it's just obviously all the
00:14:37.880 symbol of disorder. And what should one do? One should pray for Kanye, probably not, you know,
00:14:45.800 probably not take this stuff all that seriously. I don't think he should be going on like TV
00:14:51.040 to be pontificating on these views. He's always had those three problems, even the personal issues
00:14:58.580 in his life because he's cycled through so many advisors constantly. I personally am friends with
00:15:04.060 like three of Kanye's advisors going back 10 years and I don't know Kanye West. I've never met Kanye
00:15:08.340 West. And so you think there are all these personal relationships. He lashed out in that interview
00:15:12.980 against Dave Chappelle for doing a comedy bit about him. Dave Chappelle was defending Kanye in the
00:15:16.940 comedy bit. You know, it's just, if any one of these issues were going off at a particular time,
00:15:24.020 it would be dangerous. But you've got the mental disorder and you've got the performance art and
00:15:29.500 you've got the personal life all kind of crashing around. And so I say, probably should pray for the
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00:16:49.640 Speaking of Balenciaga, didn't that the Kardashians and Kanye had a deal with Balenciaga? And Kanye,
00:16:57.140 actually, I think that mask he was wearing on The Alex Jones Show was from Balenciaga,
00:17:01.400 oddly enough, even though we've been talking about this a few times now over the past couple of weeks.
00:17:05.380 There's this weird Balenciaga scandal where they posted ads that were evocative of child pornography
00:17:10.840 and S&M and Satanism and all this kind of weird stuff. So it gets even weirder. One of my associate
00:17:19.340 producers called my attention to this. There's another Balenciaga child photo ad where it's a
00:17:26.620 kid wearing a Balenciaga kind of suit in what's obviously a little kid's room. But then in the back,
00:17:32.220 there's a little doll of a devil. There's that little weird S&M doll in the front. The shoes kind
00:17:40.600 of look like two little red devils looking out at you. But then this part is really, really strange.
00:17:45.020 There is caution tape. But instead of saying caution, it says Balenciaga. But instead of saying
00:17:52.360 Balenciaga, B-A-L-E-N-C-I-A-G, it says B-A-L-E-N. That is Baal. That is one of the most prominent
00:18:06.320 demons ever worshipped going back to antiquity. That's not just an accident. Someone had that
00:18:12.380 tape made up or someone at least went on the computer and made it look that way. But probably
00:18:15.440 it's a practical prop. This on top of the fact that when you type Balenciaga, Latin to English,
00:18:22.260 into Google Translate, it translates that to do what you want, which is the first commandment of
00:18:28.060 the Satanists. Again, very strange because those words don't mean anything in Latin.
00:18:31.620 And it just comes up as gibberish until you add that final aga and then it says do what you want.
00:18:37.460 And then when you type in Balenciaga into Google Translate, B-A-A-L, it all of a sudden capitalizes
00:18:45.280 the B and says Bal is the king. And now you're seeing Bal referenced directly. Because one thing
00:18:50.140 that people have said is, well, Michael, Balenciaga is just a guy's last name. You say, well,
00:18:55.100 yeah, sure. So then why are we getting all these strange renderings when you type it in specifically
00:19:01.160 into Google Translate? Yeah, it's just a guy's last name. I'm not saying the company was founded
00:19:05.580 as an homage to Bal or something like that. But why are you getting all this satanic imagery?
00:19:11.480 And then why is the tape spelled B-A-A-L? Why is Bal right there? Obviously, there's something
00:19:17.020 going on. I don't know, right? I don't have an answer for that. But as we've said from the beginning
00:19:24.120 here, one strange occurrence, maybe that's a fluke. Two strange occurrences, maybe that's
00:19:31.680 a coincidence. Three, four, five, six. That's a pattern that you cannot deny. And then the fact
00:19:43.360 that there is this Kardashian-Kanye very close relationship to Balenciaga while this whole
00:19:48.440 thing is blowing up is also completely bizarre. That alone is completely bizarre. Kim Kardashian
00:19:54.100 is the face of Balenciaga. Kanye West continues to wear Balenciaga clothing.
00:19:59.940 What is it? I don't know. I don't know. I'm just pointing out really strange coincidences.
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00:24:56.900 out, you're in their DMs. We're in them. We are not the same.
00:25:06.740 Ugh. What? Did I read that correctly? So it's, obviously, it's a, it's like a sex joke, you know,
00:25:13.820 about, about the, about women and about what women use Tampax for. My first reaction was,
00:25:21.520 why are Tampax tweeting? Why do Tampax have to tweet? Because all brands have to tweet now.
00:25:27.720 And all brands market themselves on this kind of edginess. Right? They, you have to tweet to sell
00:25:35.460 the product. And the way to get attention on social media, as I think we've all seen in the last 24
00:25:40.420 hours, is to consistently go and say the edgiest things that you possibly can. And this is not a
00:25:46.960 great long-term strategy. The entire culture is incentivizing us to do that ever more and more.
00:25:54.400 But as a long-term strategy, that's, it's not really smart. I talked about this on the Matt
00:25:58.800 Fradd show the other day. Matt Fradd said, Michael, you're a Catholic, but you're also a conservative
00:26:04.940 talking head. And so does, does your Catholic obligation to be charitable and not to, you know,
00:26:10.880 constantly go out and detract from everybody, does that conflict with your role as a, as a
00:26:15.920 professional owner of the libs? And I thought, you know, maybe sometimes, I hope it doesn't,
00:26:20.100 but I'm sure we all misstep sometimes. But I generally try not to. Because if you,
00:26:26.640 if you stake your career or your brand or your professional life on just constantly being more
00:26:35.760 and more offensive, more and more shocking, more and more edgy, not only are you probably going to
00:26:41.700 flame out as happens to basically everyone who attempts this strategy. But it's also going to
00:26:47.000 lead you into saying things that you probably don't really believe, that you probably don't
00:26:54.920 really think are totally true. You'll, you'll just be incentivized to do that for shock value,
00:27:00.760 which is not a good way to live. And it will end up depriving you of your integrity and, and of,
00:27:06.020 you know, in, in the name of breaking through these strictures and the censorship, you're going
00:27:11.300 to end up saying things that you don't think are true in the first place. Speaking of weird sex stuff,
00:27:16.420 headline, weird sex stuff and dishonesty, headline out of the BBC, trans woman jailed for sex with 14
00:27:25.720 year old girl. What does that headline actually mean? I'm going to translate that headline
00:27:33.380 from woke, politically correct dishonesty into English. Man arrested, man jailed for raping
00:27:42.240 child. That's what that really means. But trans woman jailed for sex with 14 year old girl. What
00:27:49.540 do we call it when 25 year olds have sex with 14 year olds? Do we call that, we just call that sex?
00:27:56.100 No, we usually call that rape. That would be statutory rape everywhere in the United States or Britain or
00:28:01.520 anywhere in the civilized world. And then what do we call a trans woman in reality? We call that a man,
00:28:07.380 but it shows you the power of, of language, which is a real hobby horse of mine, but you've got to
00:28:13.660 constantly come back to it because you, you think because you are conscious and you read the news and
00:28:21.840 you know what's up and you, you get all of your information from different sources. You don't only
00:28:25.760 believe CNN, you think that you can catch the deception, but you, you can't, none of us can
00:28:31.740 all the time because so much of the leftist deception is built into the very language that we
00:28:38.440 use. When you use the phrase trans woman, or if you refer to a guy who thinks he's a woman as she,
00:28:45.340 or even if you refer to a guy who thinks that he's a woman with a woman's name,
00:28:49.700 you are consciously or unconsciously accepting the premises.
00:28:56.660 A woman has a right to go into the woman's bathroom. She has a right to go into the woman's
00:29:03.300 bathroom. Caitlin has the right to go into the woman's bathroom. When you accept terms like gay
00:29:09.040 marriage, which even people who oppose gay marriage often will use the term gay marriage,
00:29:13.900 you're accepting the premise that gay marriage is just a, it's a type of marriage.
00:29:19.540 You know, you can have American marriage or an Indian marriage or a gay marriage, but it's,
00:29:23.020 it's not the whole, the whole point of the debate is that gay marriage is a contradiction in terms and
00:29:28.640 it's completely different. Intrinsically, it cannot be the same thing as marriage. We do this
00:29:34.260 constantly. The undocumented workers, undocumented Americans, undocumented Americans are just a type
00:29:40.000 of American, except they're not. They're foreign nationals. They're, they're not Americans.
00:29:44.300 justice-involved youth. That's one of my favorite academic euphemisms for, for criminal children,
00:29:51.480 you know, criminal minors, or justice-involved person is used to refer to adults. Whatever
00:29:56.180 justice-involved persons are, they are not involved with justice. They're criminals. They're involved
00:30:01.160 with injustice, actually. It's a total deception. So you've got to be aware of, even if you're reading
00:30:07.140 this and you say, wait, something's clearly gone wrong here. It's not a, you've got to translate it in
00:30:10.880 your head and say it in your head in order to really appreciate this. Trans woman jailed for
00:30:15.200 sex with a 14-year-old girl. No, no, no. Grown man rapes child. That's what it is. It's going to
00:30:20.560 give, it'll give even you a different and more accurate picture. Speaking of deception, by the way,
00:30:26.660 huge news story. The liver king has been exposed as a fraud. Do you know who the liver king is? I
00:30:35.000 didn't either. Brett Cooper actually turned me on to him. He's some social media phenomenon where he's a
00:30:39.220 super jacked guy who never has a shirt on and he's always just eating organs of giant animals. He'll
00:30:47.000 sit there. I saw one video. He said, why would you chew gum when you could eat lung? And he pulls off
00:30:52.960 part of a cow lung and starts chewing on it. The whole idea was, I don't really do anything special.
00:30:57.920 I just eat all these totally primal kinds of foods. And that's how I got super jacked. And the guy was
00:31:03.640 obviously on steroids. And it just came out that he's on steroids. And here's his apology.
00:31:09.420 Primals, I'm making this video to apologize. Because I f***ed up. Because I'm embarrassed and
00:31:17.960 ashamed. Because I lied. And I misled a lot of people. I've stated that this is a complicated
00:31:27.520 topic. At least to me it is. Because before social media, I was rich and anonymous. And
00:31:33.980 after social media, I'm still rich, but no longer anonymous. And I never expected this
00:31:39.380 kind of exposure in the public eye. It's been tricky as f*** to navigate. Well, clearly I
00:31:49.100 did it wrong. And I'm here now to set the record straight. Yes, I've done steroids. And yes,
00:31:59.380 I'm on steroids, monitored and managed by a trained hormone clinician.
00:32:05.060 Wow, shocking. None of us could ever see this. No, you can. You can if you're not taken by this
00:32:13.460 constant push that is accelerated by social media and by our pop culture and our celebrity culture
00:32:19.900 to just be more and more outrageous, more and more shocking. One maxim that I often come back to on
00:32:26.060 this show is, hey, be normal. Just be normal. It's good to be normal. We're talking about at the top
00:32:32.720 of the show, you don't have to hand it to Hitler. You don't, actually. You don't.
00:32:37.460 But people are titillated by really shocking statements and shocking images. And it gets
00:32:45.180 people to think, wow, maybe this thing that I know is not possible or not true or completely
00:32:51.320 out of left field, maybe it really is true. Usually it's not. Usually things are just a lot more
00:32:59.460 normal than all of that. Generally speaking, you can just trust your faculties of reason and your
00:33:05.760 moral conscience and the traditions in which you have been raised. Generally speaking, those are
00:33:10.460 going to be much better guides to your own life than some person making some insane sort of claim,
00:33:21.940 whether it be about the Second World War or about how to get really jacked eating cow lung or something.
00:33:28.760 If it seems too wild, crazy, singular to be true, it probably is. This is in part why we are
00:33:41.780 conservatives, because we understand that the old tried and true stuff has a much better track record
00:33:47.560 than the modern flights of fancy, titillating though they may be. Last Friday, we launched a new series.
00:33:53.960 Speaking of the great traditions and the things that have endured through all of time,
00:33:58.180 we launched a great, great new biblical series with Dr. Jordan B. Peterson. The series is called
00:34:03.060 Exodus. In it, Jordan sits down with other scholars to read the book of Exodus and to discuss what it
00:34:08.040 means and why it remains significant thousands of years after it was written. Dennis Prager,
00:34:12.700 Jonathan Peugeot, many, many other people in there. Episodes one, two, and three are available
00:34:16.040 to stream right now. You have got to check out this episode. Here's the trailer.
00:34:20.100 The Hebrews created history as we know it.
00:34:26.980 You don't get away with anything. And so you might think you can bend the fabric of reality and that
00:34:31.960 you can treat people instrumentally and that you can bow to the tyrant and violate your conscience
00:34:36.200 without cost. You will pay the piper. It's going to call you out of that slavery into freedom,
00:34:41.400 even if that pulls you into the desert.
00:34:46.680 And we're going to see that there's something else going on here that is far more cosmic and deeper than
00:34:52.800 what you can imagine. The highest ethical spirit to which we're beholden
00:34:59.080 is presented precisely as that spirit that allies itself with the cause of freedom against tyranny.
00:35:07.160 Yes, exactly. I want villains to get punished.
00:35:09.760 But do you want the villains to learn before they have to pay the ultimate price?
00:35:13.160 That's such a Christian question.
00:35:14.500 You have to be a member to watch. So head on over to dailywire.com slash subscribe
00:35:23.060 to become a member and watch Exodus today. And we have finally arrived at my absolutely
00:35:29.260 favorite time of the week when I get to hear from all of you in the mailbag. This mailbag is
00:35:35.260 sponsored by pure talk at pure talk.com. Select a plan, enter code NOLS and get 50% off your first
00:35:40.060 month. First question. Hi, Michael Arun here. I am an astrophysicist,
00:35:46.220 which I mentioned for context because you recently piqued my curiosity when you mentioned that behind
00:35:51.580 the heliocentrism debate within the Catholic Church during the 17th century were deeper and more
00:35:57.280 profound philosophical and theological issues. I was wondering if you could talk from your perspective
00:36:02.280 as a Catholic Christian about what those philosophical issues are, and maybe also about
00:36:09.260 what are the philosophical and perhaps even metaphysical implications of the Einsteinian
00:36:14.700 view of the universe in which there is no preferred center to the universe. Thank you as always for
00:36:20.800 your wisdom. Arun, very, very good question. Yes, you can see how misrepresented the Catholic
00:36:30.800 Church's position on science has been when you look at the history of these sorts of controversies.
00:36:35.980 One, the most prominent scientists ever have been, not only Catholic, but in many cases have been
00:36:42.640 Catholic priests. Fr. George Lemaitre is the person who first theorized the Big Bang, Catholic priest.
00:36:50.500 Gregor Mendel, Catholic priest, the discoverer of Mendelian inheritance and genetics.
00:36:57.240 Copernicus was maybe a Catholic priest, though that's a little bit unclear. He was at least a Catholic
00:37:03.000 canon and many, many others. But if you look at, say, when Copernicus puts forward the idea that the
00:37:11.640 earth revolves around the sun, he was not really persecuted for it. Galileo puts forward this idea,
00:37:18.440 and he was persecuted for it, but not exactly for suggesting the idea. It was more for being just a
00:37:23.520 huge jerk all the time. And so when Copernicus's book comes out on the celestial spheres, there was a
00:37:31.800 preface added to the book that said that this is meant to facilitate calculations, but it's not
00:37:37.300 necessarily meant to be taken literally. Galileo comes out and not only proposes his view as a
00:37:42.760 literal view, but he also antagonizes the Pope and members of the clergy in the book. And he has
00:37:50.020 simplicius in this dialogue, meaning simpleton, though it's a reference to an interpreter and a
00:37:57.220 commentator on Aristotle. But it's obviously meant to suggest that this person is a simpleton,
00:38:02.860 and that represents the Pope's view. So he just was kind of a jerk, and he didn't play his cards
00:38:09.160 really straight either. The reason I bring up the word literal is because the word literal is very
00:38:15.440 confusing, especially in our day and age, because literal is supposed to mean not figurative or not
00:38:20.040 symbolic. But literal refers to letters, which are signs, and in our day and age are symbols as well.
00:38:27.820 So what does it even mean to be literal? If you tell me, you mentioned Einstein's view of the
00:38:34.060 universe. When you tell me that there is no center to the universe, or we're in this kind of static,
00:38:38.840 you know, infinite sort of universe, or any, really any modern scientific depiction of the
00:38:43.260 universe that you want, and you tell me that the Earth is on this little ball circling this other
00:38:47.680 little ball in a galaxy, in a galaxy cluster, in another galaxy cluster, in a galaxy super cluster,
00:38:54.220 I don't know what that means. If you tell me that man is the center of the universe,
00:39:01.700 I do know what that means. And furthermore, when you say man is the center of the universe,
00:39:07.300 that more accurately describes man's actual position in the world. Because man is the nexus
00:39:13.280 of the physical world and the metaphysical world through his rational soul. Man is the only being in
00:39:18.600 this world that that can be said of. Animals are bodies, and they have a soul proper to their
00:39:25.060 nature, but they don't have a rational soul. That's why we don't put them on trial. When a cat
00:39:28.660 scratches a human being, we don't prosecute the cat. Ideas are meaningful, and they have consequences
00:39:36.680 in the world, but they don't have bodies. Angels and demons, which I happen to believe exist,
00:39:40.840 as have most people throughout all of human history, but some doubt it today. But angels and demons
00:39:45.400 are real. They have metaphysical reality, but they don't have bodies. Only in man do you see that nexus
00:39:52.240 perfectly in the incarnation and in the blessed sacrament. So that representation more accurately
00:40:00.680 describes what is really going on in reality. Even if in order to make calculations, we accept the
00:40:08.380 premise that the earth revolves around the sun and the sun is in the galaxy or whatever.
00:40:13.080 That's fine, but that is a representation too. That's just a picture in your head so that you can
00:40:18.820 make models and make certain calculations. This is a point that is really driven home by Owen Barfield,
00:40:25.720 who you'll hear a lot of us on Daily Wire bring up this writer a lot. He's the guy who was instrumental
00:40:30.780 in converting C.S. Lewis to Christianity. Really, really brilliant philosopher. And he just points out
00:40:36.700 that in the world, what we take in about the world around us is necessarily just representations.
00:40:47.400 I'm not really seeing the camera as the camera. I'm taking in the information that the camera
00:40:54.020 has in itself. And then I am perceiving that. And then I am creating a concept of that in my mind.
00:40:59.760 And we hope that that accords as well as it can to reality. But it is a distinct thing. And what modern
00:41:05.460 science does is it separates the representations. It separates the phenomena from what the phenomena
00:41:13.660 really mean. And it creates a sort of idolatry out of that. So that's why we think of the human body
00:41:18.260 now as just a bag of chemicals. We don't think of it as a meaningful thing with a soul because that's
00:41:24.280 the way science has to treat the body. We think of, therefore, the cosmos in that same way. But there
00:41:30.820 is more to the cosmos than just the physical world. There's the metaphysical world as well. We all know
00:41:35.040 that. We have to know that. We have to accept that. That's the only way that we can talk. That's the
00:41:39.200 only way that our ideas can have meaning. That's the only way we can have hopes and joys and loves
00:41:42.660 and all the rest of the things that we can't quite touch. So that's a long-winded version of that view.
00:41:51.080 And it's why it's kind of like that bell curve, you know, for IQ. It's like the really dumb guy
00:41:57.460 would say, man's the center of the universe. And then the guy in the middle would say, well,
00:42:02.720 actually, you know, the earth is in the galaxy and in the supercluster. And then you get to the
00:42:08.180 top of the bell curve and it's just the sort of Jedi Knight saying, actually, man really is the
00:42:13.920 center of the universe. That's, I think, what's going on when we talk about our representations of
00:42:18.340 science. All right. Next question. Hey there, Mr. Michael. This is Stanley again. Thank you for
00:42:23.740 taking my original question on your pronunciation of words like divisive versus divisive. I was
00:42:29.440 listening to your show and Ben also brought it up on his show, the Canadian new laws that we're going
00:42:35.720 to try to help with assisted suicide. Now, I think the reason the Canadians are actually doing this,
00:42:41.480 as well as other European countries with socialized medicine, is because of their social programs.
00:42:47.480 It's obviously much cheaper to just do away with them than it is to treat them for a fatal illness.
00:42:53.420 You might remember several years ago, I think back in 2018, there was a little boy named Alfie Evans,
00:43:00.160 and he died and he may have died anyway, but he died because the British government would not allow
00:43:06.360 his parents to seek treatment for him, even outside of the country. Even the Vatican was going to send a
00:43:11.860 jet to help him. Now, I think, honestly, at the core of all of this is Satan. He hates the family,
00:43:17.680 and he does everything he can to circumvent it, from gender confusion, to making husbands and wives
00:43:24.800 think that they're a drag on each other, to pornography and all sorts of things. Anyway,
00:43:29.720 that's my perspective. What do you think?
00:43:31.460 That's a great question. Sometimes people ask questions like that at speaking events that I
00:43:38.900 go to. You know, they'll get up and they'll say, hey, Michael, and give a dissertation on their view
00:43:42.580 of the world and say, what do you think of that? I agree, actually. I agree with that. That's a very
00:43:47.420 good one. And especially on your first point when you say, do you think that Canada now is pushing
00:43:52.960 assisted suicide because it will save them money because they've got these sort of socialist
00:43:57.780 programs? And the answer is, of course, yes. This is one of the great hazards to socialized
00:44:03.140 medicine, to all sorts of socialist programs and giving all of your political power away and
00:44:08.020 upending all sorts of traditions. Because you just get perverse incentives. And conservatives
00:44:15.740 understand that incentives motivate people's behavior. So if the government is going to create
00:44:24.000 an incentive for granny maybe to leave this planet a little sooner, then you're going to see more of
00:44:32.060 that behavior, okay? And we know that because part of the debate over socialized medicine and
00:44:37.580 Obamacare and all the rest of it was that people spend a huge proportion of the money that they will
00:44:45.420 spend over their whole lives on healthcare in the final 18 months of their life, right? It's not as
00:44:50.820 though you spend the same amount every year on healthcare. It's that you spend basically nothing
00:44:54.200 on healthcare for most of your life. And then a little bit more as you get older. And then at
00:44:57.480 the very end, you spend a ton of money. So if you're some technocrat with a green visor crunching the
00:45:02.320 numbers and you say, wow, if we want to save, who knows, 50% on our medical expenses in the
00:45:07.480 government, if we just kill granny 18 months sooner, you're going to get that behavior. That's a huge
00:45:12.540 moral hazard. Next question.
00:45:14.020 Hey, Michael, it's Camille. Um, I have another dating question for you. So I recently had an ex,
00:45:23.540 let's call it a situationship because we weren't fully dating, um, reach out to me asking me to
00:45:30.240 set him up with one of my friends. I was shocked, livid and fuming at this request, but I wanted to
00:45:38.500 call in and see what your thoughts were. He was kind of a jerk to me and things didn't end super
00:45:44.740 well. And it's been a long time, but I never thought we were friends. And I think it's absolutely
00:45:49.960 insane that he asked me to do this. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks.
00:45:54.300 Camille, I want you to, I want you to take out your phone right now. I'll give you. Okay. You got it.
00:46:01.240 You pulled over, you took out your phone. I want you to go to your contacts. Actually,
00:46:05.580 it's probably easier. Just go to your texts. Okay. Pull up this guy's number and go to,
00:46:11.620 to, to, go to information about, and then delete the number. Camille, what is wrong with you?
00:46:17.420 Good grief. You've written into the show before about your relationship problems.
00:46:23.060 Don't, what are you doing? Why, why do you talk to this guy? Not only, I'm sorry,
00:46:27.840 before you delete the number, block the number and then delete the number out of your phone so that
00:46:32.600 you don't text him. Yeah, of course, this guy's a total jerk loser. You don't need to speak to him
00:46:38.980 ever again. Even when you say, I didn't even think we were friends after we broke up. Well,
00:46:42.480 if you're not friends, then delete the number and block it, Camille. Good grief. Ah, Camille,
00:46:48.460 I just want to shake, I just want to reach for the camera and shake you. Of course, stop it. Stop
00:46:52.660 talking to these jerks. All right, next question. Hey, Michael, I'm just wondering what your view on
00:46:57.520 recycling is because a friend of mine, a conservative friend of mine recently made fun of me and was
00:47:03.220 calling me liberal because I was recycling and I like to recycle. So I guess I'm just wondering
00:47:08.160 if you think it actually does something and it can actually help our planet or if it's another,
00:47:13.460 I don't know, fake narrative that liberals push. Also, I got to let you know that I am a religious
00:47:18.800 Jew, but I will still choose your show over Ben's any day. Thanks so much, Michael.
00:47:24.040 Now we're talking. All right. Thank you. Clearly have marvelous taste. That's so clear. I could tell
00:47:30.880 from the inside of your question and the final part just confirms it for me. The problem with
00:47:39.240 recycling is that it's a good thing to do in theory and it doesn't really do very much in practice.
00:47:47.040 A very, very tiny proportion of the things that we put in the recycling bin actually end up being
00:47:51.720 recycled in any way. And this is in part because it involves not just Americans going and doing
00:47:56.640 their part, but then we ship it overseas to third world countries and they're supposed to deal with
00:48:01.240 our trash for us. And then often that doesn't really happen. And so it's a good thing to do
00:48:05.780 in theory. I know that there is a conservative perspective that says, who cares about the planet?
00:48:12.140 I'm just going to throw my refuse into the ocean and burn tires all day long. And that's my right
00:48:18.600 as an American. I don't think that's true. I think it's very conservative to conserve things
00:48:22.360 and to be a good steward of your environment, to be moderate in that regard. The problem with
00:48:27.040 recycling is just, it doesn't really work. So it ends up being a kind of meaningless ritual.
00:48:31.620 So do it, don't do it. It's not really going to have much of an effect in the world. But I think
00:48:36.860 your instinct to be a good steward of your created environment, I think is a good one and a
00:48:42.420 conservative one. The rest of the show continues now because of the most fascinating broadcast ever
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