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00:00:00.000 Just in time for Christmas, we have got the feel-good story of the year.

00:00:05.260 Oberlin College has finally forked over $36 million to Gibson's Bakery, a local shop that

00:00:13.800 the college tried to destroy with a baseless charge of racism back in 2016. A lot of people

00:00:20.220 don't remember this. I actually wrote about it in my book, Speechless, Controlling Words,

00:00:24.360 Controlling Minds. Six years ago, there we go, six years ago, a black Oberlin College undergrad

00:00:31.060 named Jonathan Alladin tried to pass a fake ID at Gibson's to buy a bottle of wine.

00:00:38.640 Alan Gibson, who's a son and grandson of the owners, rejected the fake ID and noticed that

00:00:45.520 the student had hidden two other bottles in his coat, at which point Gibson said he was calling

00:00:51.380 the cops and he raised his phone to take a picture of the would-be thief. The student

00:00:56.000 then smacked Gibson's phone away, smacked the guy in the face, and assaulted the store owner,

00:01:01.620 David Gibson. When Gibson chased the student out of the store, a couple other students joined in.

00:01:07.480 By the time the cops got there, all three students had Gibson on the ground and were punching

00:01:12.100 and kicking him. This seems like an open and shut case, right? You throw the criminal kids in prison

00:01:18.160 and you make them apologize to the store owner that they tried to rob. But we're not talking

00:01:23.760 about a normal community. We're talking about Oberlin College. And we're talking about a case

00:01:29.660 of a white shop owner and black thieves, which meant that the students had to be in the right

00:01:36.420 and the shop owner had to be in the wrong. Facts be damned. The shop had to be destroyed.

00:01:43.340 What followed was a college-led boycott and smear campaign against Gibson's. The assistant dean

00:01:50.560 of students texted the dean of students and vice president of the school, quote,

00:01:55.000 I hope we rain fire and brimstone on that store, which they did. But what the school was not counting

00:02:04.240 on was that Gibson's Bakery would fight back. Alan Gibson was 89 years old. He had dedicated his life

00:02:11.320 to the business. He knew that he was not going to live for very long after that. 89 is pretty old.

00:02:16.900 And he did, in fact, die before the litigation was completed, before the college paid up. But Gibson

00:02:23.320 refused to lay down and die being falsely branded a racist. Gibson took Oberlin to court. Gibson won.

00:02:33.120 So Oberlin appealed. The Ninth Circuit rejected the appeal. Oberlin tried to take it up to the Supreme

00:02:38.960 Court of Ohio. In a 4-3 decision, so very, very close, elections matter, the Supreme Court refused

00:02:44.860 to take up the case. Finally, in September of this year, Oberlin agreed to pay up what it owed. And just

00:02:51.140 last week, it finally paid to the tune of $36.5 million. Absolutely beautiful. I hope Alan Gibson

00:03:00.020 is looking down from heaven and smiling. And I hope conservatives are looking up right now and

00:03:06.780 taking notes. The woke monsters who want to ruin our lives will not give up until we hit them where

00:03:13.280 it hurts. And that means conservatives need to get a lot more comfortable suing defamers like this

00:03:20.080 into oblivion. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:03:31.360 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Old Schooled. It's been a while

00:03:34.900 since we've had Old Schooled as a top comment. Says, Trump's huge announcement is cringe as all get

00:03:41.280 out, but it has upset the left. For that reason, and that reason alone, I like it. He lives rent-free

00:03:47.600 in their sheep heads. A pretty blunt way to put it, but it's true. And it does sum up a lot of the way

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00:05:48.720 free. There's some more good news for conservatives here in the culture. So really great news with the

00:05:55.360 Gibson's Bakery story, and I know people haven't tracked the story all that closely, even though when

00:06:00.000 I first saw it, it really, it left such an impression on me. I featured it in my book because I

00:06:04.440 thought it was just such a perfect encapsulation of how politically correct culture and how the

00:06:11.120 manipulation of language can just completely warp people's perceptions of reality. But we won.

00:06:19.020 I say we, I'm referring to we as Gibson's Bakery. I'm referring to we as those of us who resist the

00:06:25.460 woke mob. I'm referring to we as those of us who don't want to just have people's lives destroyed

00:06:32.420 with baseless charges of racism. You utter the magic phrase racism or sexism or whatever,

00:06:37.880 and then you can just destroy a man's life. It's like saying abracadabra, okay? And we've got to

00:06:42.400 stand against that. So that's a big win, I think, for conservatives. We just got another big win.

00:06:48.040 Pornhub has been banned from YouTube. Now, I didn't know Pornhub was on YouTube. I assumed Pornhub

00:06:55.300 just has porn everywhere and YouTube does not allow porn. But I guess Pornhub had a YouTube channel

00:06:59.700 where it was relatively within the limits allowed by YouTube, even though it was kind of saucy. And

00:07:04.800 obviously, the point was just to direct people over to the Pornhub website. YouTube says,

00:07:09.680 no more. They banned the account, which had almost a million followers after repeated violations.

00:07:15.300 This comes after Meta slash Instagram. Meta is what owns Facebook. Banned Pornhub. This after TikTok.

00:07:23.920 Banned Pornhub. This after Visa, MasterCard, Roku, Comcast, Unilever, Kraft Heinz. Kraft Heinz. I

00:07:32.420 don't know what. Pornhub can't get ketchup anymore. I guess not. And PayPal also have cut ties with

00:07:38.020 Pornhub. Great, great news. According to YouTube spokesman Jack Malon, pun review, we terminated the

00:07:45.600 channel following multiple violations of our community guidelines. We enforce our policies

00:07:49.060 equally for everyone. And channels that repeatedly violate or are dedicated to violative content are

00:07:54.440 terminated. So you can tell YouTube's trying to say, there was no targeting of Pornhub in particular.

00:07:59.420 We just treat everyone exactly the same. We all know that isn't true. We all know big tech plays

00:08:04.420 favorites. We know that for years, they've targeted conservatives on all of these platforms. But okay,

00:08:10.520 here, they're targeting the libs. They're targeting Pornhub. That's a very good thing. I wish we lived in a

00:08:16.460 culture where the YouTube spokesman could be honest and say, no, you know, we finally realized that this

00:08:22.220 company, which is trafficking in misery, and everyone from the abused girlfriends and human

00:08:30.840 trafficking victims who are put in their videos, all the way up to the professionals who have an agent

00:08:35.320 who go to big fancy sets in the valley and shoot porn. All of these people have been abused, okay? All of

00:08:40.960 these people are being exploited to excite the lusts of men and plunge our culture into degradation. And

00:08:47.980 we're not going to do it anymore. And yes, we are targeting them. And it's a damn right thing that

00:08:51.800 we're targeting them. I wish we could live in that culture. We're not quite there yet. So you get this

00:08:55.980 mealy mouth, well, you know, actually, we're just applying the rules fairly. And okay, whatever, fine.

00:08:59.720 Get rid of Pornhub. Just get rid of it. Just nuke it. Pornhub has no right to exist. Pornhub is bad for

00:09:05.280 everybody. Bad for the performers. Bad for the consumers. Bad for the flourishing of civilized

00:09:14.420 society. Just nuke it, okay? And I know, I can already hear in the distance the rumblings of

00:09:21.980 the kind of libertarian, I hate to even call it libertarian, the sort of very shallow, licentious

00:09:32.760 argument where people say, well, you know, if we ban Pornhub, next thing you know, people are going

00:09:40.740 to be banning the Bible. First of all, they already banned the Bible. You're not allowed to teach the

00:09:44.220 Bible in schools, all right? And you are actually allowed to teach pornography in schools now. So

00:09:47.960 amazing how the culture has flipped. But no, we can tell the difference between porn and the Bible,

00:09:52.980 okay? We can tell the difference. As Justice Potter Stewart famously observed, and he was right,

00:09:58.400 even though he gets mocked for it, when it comes to obscenity and pornography, you actually can

00:10:02.620 know it when you see it. And we should be able to say, yeah, we know what this stuff is. We can tell

00:10:09.480 the difference between art and porn, and we're going to ban the porn. Now, unfortunately, despite

00:10:16.760 this big win, the establishment is still working hard to defend the worst aspects of the sexual

00:10:21.760 revolution. You saw this just in the last week when the FBI arrested two more pro-life advocates.

00:10:29.480 This has been happening for a while now. It hasn't made the news all that much. One,

00:10:35.080 because the establishment media suppresses the story, but also because it just happens so regularly

00:10:41.300 that it doesn't end up being news. Oh, yep, the FBI went in and targeted more pro-lifers. Pro-lifers go

00:10:47.440 in with hidden cameras. This was years ago. They go in with hidden cameras. My friend David

00:10:51.300 Delighton, the Center for Medical Progress. They exposed Planned Parenthood of breaking the law,

00:10:55.660 selling baby body parts to the highest bidder. And what happens? The powers that be prosecute

00:11:03.420 the investigative journalists who exposed the story. They don't go after Planned Parenthood.

00:11:08.720 They go after the pro-lifers. What happens when in Washington, D.C., you've got pro-life advocates

00:11:15.040 discover horrible abuses at abortion mills, babies being killed after birth and late-term abortions

00:11:23.400 and all the rest of it. They uncover this. They have evidence of it in the baby's bodies. What

00:11:28.460 happens? The powers that be, they go after the pro-lifers. And so now we've got two more pro-lifers

00:11:35.440 arrested for violating the FACE law. The FACE law is the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act.

00:11:45.040 They apparently violated the FACE law up in New York by unlawfully blocking access to abortion mills

00:11:53.560 in multiple states over the years. Now, the question that I have is, one, I hope these guys have good

00:12:01.780 lawyers. I hope that they have access to legal resources from the pro-life movement, which is

00:12:09.540 pretty well funded because people like you listening to the show right now support it because we realize

00:12:14.140 what a moral atrocity abortion is. My question is this. Why don't I hear any Republican lawmakers

00:12:22.420 pushing to overturn the absurd and evil FACE law? Why is it that the pro-lifers keep getting plucked

00:12:31.700 off because of this ridiculous federal law saying that people have a right to access abortion mills,

00:12:36.720 this law passed during the Clinton administration? And I don't hear Republican lawmakers overturning

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00:14:13.400 See terms for details. We got to get rid of this face law. This is what the feds use as an excuse to

00:14:19.480 go after the pro-lifers. The feds will still try to go after the pro-lifers, even if you got rid of

00:14:24.680 the law. It would just be much harder to do it. Don't give our political opponents the pretext

00:14:29.440 to prosecute us. What does the face law do? It was passed in 1994, signed by Clinton.

00:14:36.940 It prohibits the use of physical force, threat of physical force, or physical obstruction to

00:14:41.840 intentionally injure, intimidate, interfere with, or attempt to injure, intimidate, or interfere with

00:14:45.760 any person who is exercising or trying to exercise their First Amendment right of religious freedom

00:15:00.620 at a place of religious worship. And three, it prohibits the intentional damage or destruction

00:15:06.120 of a reproductive healthcare facility or a place of worship. First of all, it's amazing how honest

00:15:12.400 that law is equating abortion mills with churches. It's not honest in the sense that the two are not

00:15:21.200 equivalent. They're quite the opposite. But the law is honest in that they recognize, okay,

00:15:27.060 conservatives have churches and synagogues and mosques, I guess. Liberals have abortion mills.

00:15:34.720 When conservatives want to worship, they go and they get on their knees and they pray to God.

00:15:38.820 When liberals want to worship their deity, they murder babies. What God are they worshiping?

00:15:46.580 Which God or gods? Is it Baal? Is it Moloch? Is it the devil himself who they're worshiping by

00:15:54.420 sacrificing babies? Because we've seen that as a recurrent theme throughout all of human history.

00:15:58.560 So amazing honesty there. And when you see that, you realize, okay, well, that can't be permitted.

00:16:04.300 Now, you might look at the law and say, okay, well, I don't think people should be able to use

00:16:08.780 physical force or even to stop an evil such as abortion. I don't think that pro-lifers should

00:16:13.500 be able to go there with baseball bats and start clubbing the crazy pro-life activists. Yeah,

00:16:18.720 right. Of course not. We're not saying that we should have vigilantism or anything like that.

00:16:23.520 But you see how broad this law is. Anyone who in any way interferes with or physically,

00:16:29.860 what does that mean? You could have a little old nun praying the rosary outside of the

00:16:33.520 abortion mill. And someone could claim, as reasonably as they claim with any of these cases,

00:16:39.960 well, she's obstructing access. She's got to go three blocks away. It's just absurd. Just

00:16:45.660 repeal the whole law. It's an evil law passed by a terrible president. And the conservatives need to

00:16:52.500 do it. We've already won on Roe v. Wade, okay? We overruled Roe v. Wade. Dobbs did it. That's great

00:16:57.560 stuff. Now, in a post-Dobbs future, what is the pro-life movement going to do? Repeal this stupid

00:17:05.160 law. Speaking of babies, Nick Cannon, one of the most fertile, I guess you wouldn't call him

00:17:15.100 fertile. You'd call him prolific maybe. You'd call him very active and busy. Celebrities out there,

00:17:21.160 he's got something like 10 kids with almost as many babies mama. Is it baby mamas or baby's mama?

00:17:28.140 Is it like an attorney's general? I don't know. I'm not totally familiar with that culture.

00:17:33.100 Anyway, Nick Cannon is discussing how complicated it is to go buy Christmas presents.

00:17:38.320 It's almost the holidays. And thanks to me, the world now has 8 billion people. But my job's not

00:17:46.180 done. It's time to do some online Christmas shopping. And based off the baby mama to kid ratio,

00:17:53.700 we got a whole hell of a lot of gifts to buy. Let's go!

00:17:56.840 And to start it off, my adorable and jovial offspring gave me a list.

00:18:08.920 Daddy's got this. It's gonna be a merry Christmas. I didn't get none of this stuff when I was a kid.

00:18:14.700 Know what my daddy got me? A stick. He used to call me stick cannon. Matthew, Mark, Luke,

00:18:21.620 and John. Are those books in the Bible more kid names? No, I can't afford the whole Lakers.

00:18:28.520 Maybe one of them. I could probably purchase one Laker. All these damn gifts. Y'all just don't

00:18:33.320 want to go to college, huh? 12 PS5s? How about I give you a P2 1⁄2? I think I got Carpal Tunnel.

00:18:40.380 Ha ha ha, get it? He's got a ton of kids with a bunch of different women. And so he's got to buy

00:18:45.260 all these Christmas presents for them. Ha ha ha. Producer Danny, who is much more up on pop culture

00:18:51.460 than I am, informs me. It's not that Nick Cannon has upwards of 10 kids. Danny seems to think that

00:18:57.100 he's got 11 going on 12 kids. Whatever the number is, Nick Cannon, in a more serious interview, said,

00:19:03.340 quote, being a father of multiple kids, it's always the biggest guilt on me is that I don't get to spend

00:19:09.580 enough time with all my children. One, because I'm constantly working. And two, because I'm just spread

00:19:15.720 thin. A lot of people knock Nick Cannon because he goes around and impregnates all of these women

00:19:22.760 and isn't married to them and doesn't form a stable family and is very irresponsible. The reason I don't

00:19:28.740 go after Nick Cannon as hard as some people do is I always think, at least he doesn't kill the kids.

00:19:36.540 It's sad that that is the bar in our society.

00:19:39.080 But our society murders 850,000 babies a year. So if you don't kill your kids,

00:19:47.160 you are already starting at a higher place than that baseline in our culture. And I

00:19:51.680 genuinely give Nick Cannon credit for that. Now, of course, we want to raise our standards a little

00:19:57.480 bit. And the reason that Nick Cannon feels guilt is because he's doing something that is shameful.

00:20:03.400 He is intentionally depriving children of a stable family. You are supposed to have children

00:20:11.700 within the context of marriage. Marriage is the lifelong union, the perpetual union of a man

00:20:18.880 and a woman, of a husband and a wife for the good of the spouses and the sake of the generation and

00:20:24.120 education of children. Lots of people, this doesn't totally work out or they make mistakes and

00:20:30.060 they later come to repent it. And I get it. It's a very fallen world. People have blended families

00:20:34.040 and all these sorts of things. But repenting and trying to make the best of a bad situation in a

00:20:41.580 fallen world is very different from intentionally creating the sort of chaotic and disordered circumstances

00:20:50.340 that will continue to spread in that fallen world. Okay?

00:20:56.500 And Nick Cannon seems to be very much in the latter category. It's not just that Nick Cannon had a wild

00:21:02.620 kind of early life and now he's settling down with a family and trying to do right by the rest of his

00:21:07.360 kids that he had wronged. He's still knocking up all of these different women and he's telling jokes

00:21:13.380 about it. And it reminds me of a line from Chesterton. Chesterton pointed out that the problem of the

00:21:19.160 modern world is not that it's too evil, but that it's too good. Except it's good in a way

00:21:26.260 not where the virtues all work together to give you a flourishing society. It's good in the sense

00:21:31.800 that people take one virtue and they just pursue that relentlessly and they ignore all of the other

00:21:37.260 virtues. That the virtues have been separated and they're wandering around aimlessly and recklessly.

00:21:42.980 So Nick Cannon, as I gave him credit at the top, he's not killing his kids. He recognizes that it's a

00:21:48.760 good thing to have kids. And it is. A lot of elites in our society don't realize that. People like

00:21:53.640 Bill Gates, people, especially Bill Gates, because he's obsessed with trying to reduce the number of

00:21:58.980 kids that people have. People like our whole contraceptive mentality and our abortive mentality

00:22:04.420 and the Looney Tunes at the World Economic Forum and the UN trying to push abortion and contraception

00:22:10.760 and deal with overpopulation. That supposed problem, it's nonsense, of course. Elon Musk points

00:22:18.360 out rightly that the world actually has an underpopulation problem, but that's a topic for another

00:22:22.560 time. So Nick Cannon gets it. He gets that it's good. Be fruitful and multiply. Man is made in the

00:22:28.260 image and likeness of God. It is a good thing to have kids. But he has divorced that virtuous insight

00:22:35.600 from all the other virtues, which is it's good to have families. Children have a right to their natural

00:22:40.720 father and mother joined together in marriage. Children have a right to be conceived in the conjugal

00:22:46.300 act within the context of marriage. Nick Cannon has divorced the good insight from all of the

00:22:54.500 contexts surrounding it. So he really ought to correct himself. We all really ought to correct

00:22:59.180 ourselves as well. And we can recognize the right, especially in this crazy world. I'm reminded of a book

00:23:06.080 by Alistair McIntyre. It's called After Virtue, where he describes our current moral situation

00:23:11.760 as people in this post-nuclear kind of apocalyptic world. The whole civilization, all of human knowledge

00:23:19.480 has been blown up, and they find kind of scraps of a science textbook. You know, one equation here,

00:23:25.700 one little commentary on physics here. And from that, we've got to piece back together the whole

00:23:31.380 of human scientific knowledge. That's where we are right now when it comes to morality and ethics.

00:23:36.920 Okay, Nick Cannon, it's right. Be fruitful and multiply. Well, what does that mean? Man has

00:23:42.000 made the image of likeness of God. Great. What does that mean? What does that mean for your family?

00:23:44.800 It means stop going out and trying to find new baby's mama and raise your family and settle down

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00:25:15.200 speaking of Elon Musk specifically, Elon Musk has been a whirlwind in the last couple of weeks.

00:25:22.580 It's very hard to keep up with him. Last night, Elon Musk said that he might step down as CEO of

00:25:28.300 Twitter. He would let the people decide. He said he would abide by the results of a poll should he

00:25:31.860 remain at the head of Twitter. And the poll said he should not remain at the head of Twitter,

00:25:36.960 which is horrible. I wish Elon Musk would remain at the head of Twitter because he's done a very

00:25:41.420 good job. But this popular appeal follows a lot of other popular appeals that Elon Musk has made.

00:25:49.000 Elon Musk, just a few nights ago when I was on the Tim Pool show out in the middle of the woods

00:25:54.580 outside Washington, Elon Musk banned a bunch of liberal journalists, which I thought was awesome.

00:26:01.140 Tim broke the news to me on the show. I said, this is great. I'm so happy. And then Elon reversed it

00:26:08.600 and unbanned them. The journalists, quote unquote journalists, they're just liberal activists,

00:26:13.720 had been doxing Elon Musk, putting his family at risk. So he banned them. But then he said, okay,

00:26:18.440 I'll abide by the results of the poll. If you think I should unban them, they only have a seven

00:26:23.540 day suspension, but I'll unban them if you want me to. And then the people said, unban them. And

00:26:27.440 then he unbanned them. He restored the accounts of CNN's Donnie O'Sullivan, New York Times tech

00:26:31.300 reporter, Ryan Mack, WAPO reporter, Drew Harwell, Aaron Rupar, one of the worst of the worst,

00:26:37.120 Nationals, Matt Binder, he was also allowed back. And the principle that Elon has articulated

00:26:44.300 during this whole thing is four words. Vox Populi, Vox Dei. The voice of the people

00:26:52.900 is the voice of God. He's used that phrase specifically. Vox Populi, Vox Dei. And it's

00:27:00.440 a cute phrase and it's been used a lot, especially in the last 300 or so years. But the thing we got

00:27:05.740 to remember is it's not true. In fact, the earliest appearance of the phrase is from a deacon named

00:27:13.600 Alcuin, who wrote this at the end of the 8th century, I think it was 798 or thereabouts,

00:27:19.120 wrote it in a warning to Charlemagne. And he said, you got to resist this idea. This is a terrible,

00:27:25.200 dangerous idea. He said, those people should not be listened to who keep saying the voice of the

00:27:30.140 people is the voice of God, since the riotousness of the crowd is always very close to madness.

00:27:35.880 Now, the problem is that the phrase, which was initially used to mock the idea that the voice of

00:27:41.600 the people is the voice of God, later on in the 14th century, and especially after the early 18th

00:27:46.380 century, came to be used to affirm the principle that the voice of the people is the voice of God.

00:27:52.500 We, even we conservatives in America, sometimes appeal to this idea when we're feeling particularly

00:27:57.300 populist and democratic. But it is not true. More often than not, it is the opposite of true.

00:28:04.080 Do you remember what the mob did to Socrates? It's Christmas time. Do you remember what the mob did to

00:28:09.500 our Lord Jesus Christ? Remember, was that the voice of the people being the voice of God?

00:28:14.720 Furthermore, when you recognize that God has two distinct wills, God's perfect will and God's

00:28:20.840 permissive will, God's perfect will being what God really wants for all of us, and God's permissive

00:28:26.420 will, within the context of human free will, turning bad things to good. This is when we say the fall of

00:28:32.980 man, in a way, can be viewed as a good thing. It was bad in and of itself, but oh, happy fault that one for

00:28:38.340 us so great, so glorious, a redeemer. God the Father allowing the passion and crucifixion of

00:28:44.280 his son, Jesus, bad thing in itself, certainly seems very bad and wicked and unjust and evil,

00:28:51.100 except that God has overcome the evil of this world, that the darkness has not overcome the light.

00:28:57.140 And so three days after the crucifixion, on the third day, Christ rises again, conquers death,

00:29:03.180 and now we all celebrate at Easter. So when you recognize that there's a difference between those

00:29:07.680 two things, then the voice of the people can advocate for very wicked things indeed.

00:29:13.560 It's not a conservative idea to say Vox Populi, Vox Dei. Elon Musk, though, as a kind of agent of chaos,

00:29:22.620 allowed this principle. And then when he reinstated the journalists, the journos go into a Twitter chat,

00:29:29.180 and they all start whining about Elon Musk. And then Elon Musk joins the Twitter chat and gives

00:29:33.760 them a piece of his mind.

00:29:35.640 As I'm sure everyone who's been doxing would agree, you know, showing real-time information

00:29:43.660 about somebody's location is inappropriate. And I think everyone on this call would not like that

00:29:49.580 to be known to them. And there's not going to be any distinction in the future between journalists,

00:29:54.320 so-called journalists, and regular people. Everyone's going to be treated the same. They're not special

00:29:58.580 because you're a journalist. You're a Twitter journalist. You're a citizen. So no special

00:30:06.380 treatment. You dox, you get suspended. End of story.

00:30:11.460 You're not that special. Journos, I know this is the worst phrase you've ever heard in your life,

00:30:17.960 because you believe. You work at CNN. You work at MSNBC. You tell yourself you are the fourth

00:30:25.800 state, the intrepid, courageous reporter speaking truth to power. They're not, of course. They are

00:30:32.440 doing the bidding of power. The most powerful interests in the whole country are paying their

00:30:36.160 bills. They say, oh, we're so special. We're standing up. And Elon says, you're not special.

00:30:41.840 But I have a blue checkmark. And now everybody gets a blue checkmark. No, I'm special.

00:30:46.760 You can't ban me, Elon. Yes, I can. You dox me. You dox my family.

00:30:51.740 I'm going to ban you. I wish he had banned them more. It was a good thing. My only complaint

00:30:59.600 about the Elon Musk incident is that he did not ban them more. I'll be speaking on this

00:31:06.620 more a little bit later today at TPUSA. I'm flying out to Phoenix right after my show

00:31:11.340 to AmericaFest. Very, very excited that I was able to make it to that. So we will not be having a

00:31:19.260 member segment today. We've got a great member segment coming the rest of the week. But I had to

00:31:22.800 fly out there. I had to go celebrate some of the wins that we're getting right now and had to make

00:31:26.700 my plea before the people to say, no, we need Elon. We need Elon to ban more of the liberal

00:31:33.520 journalists. That's actually a great thing. But the liberal journos, the fence sitters, the so-called

00:31:39.980 moderates and centrists, and I don't think they're really all that moderate or centrist,

00:31:43.960 they don't really get it. Barry Weiss, who is a liberal. She's a liberal journalist. But because

00:31:52.340 she has in any way broken ranks with the far left, the conservatives all go gaga. They say,

00:32:00.020 wow, she's one of us. I don't think she's one of us. I like some of her work. But I'm sure we all

00:32:05.840 share very different premises about the world. And Barry Weiss lets that be known every once in a

00:32:09.960 while. So Elon Musk gave the Twitter files to expose the corruption at Twitter under the previous

00:32:15.940 ownership to Barry Weiss and the other journalist, Matt Taibbi, similar kind of cloth, a liberal

00:32:23.400 journalist who sometimes breaks ranks. But Barry Weiss went off on Elon about this. She said,

00:32:30.120 the old regime at Twitter governed by its own whims and biases, and it sure looks like the new regime

00:32:36.660 has the same problem. I oppose it in both cases. And I think those journalists who are reporting on a

00:32:43.800 story of public importance should be reinstated. Nope. No, no, that isn't true. Though there are many

00:32:54.080 people who would even call themselves conservatives who agree with Barry Weiss's point. But nevertheless,

00:32:59.020 it's wrong. I had this debate on Timcast the other night. It was mostly a debate between me and Luke

00:33:05.000 on the show. Luke representing much more the libertarian position. I was representing much

00:33:09.860 more the conservative position. The libertarian position and the liberal Barry Weiss position is

00:33:15.700 this. Anytime anyone wields power within the public square to set standards and norms and to censor,

00:33:27.120 I know we're not allowed to use the C word, to censor a certain speech, that is always equally bad,

00:33:32.920 no matter who's doing it. We shouldn't tolerate it. Now, this is a utopian and preposterous position

00:33:40.640 because we all agree that certain things should be banned from the public square. We all agree

00:33:45.500 child pornography should be banned from the public square. We all agree, well, I think we all agree

00:33:50.020 that threats should be banned. Fraud should be, I think we all agree on that. None of that type of

00:33:57.780 speech has ever been considered protected by the First Amendment. Obscenity, should obscenity be

00:34:02.900 banned? I certainly think so. According to the laws on our books, obscenity should be banned. But in

00:34:07.140 recent years, legal protections for the community against obscenity have broken down because of

00:34:12.820 activist judges. But I think that should be banned. We all agree certain things should be censored.

00:34:18.520 How about the N word? That's a good example of a taboo in our culture. Do we think that the N

00:34:23.800 word should be permitted and used all over social media? No one really thinks that, and it wouldn't

00:34:30.820 be tolerated. Okay. Now, what about when we start getting into more controversial issues?

00:34:41.020 What about when, let's talk about transgenderism. According to the old regime at Twitter,

00:34:47.660 you were not allowed to call a man who thinks that he's a woman, a man. That could get you banned.

00:34:53.620 That was called misgendering. If you referred to Richard Levine, who's the man who wears the skirt

00:34:58.000 and he's the assistant health secretary because we're living in clown world. If you refer to him

00:35:03.920 as Richard or he, that could have gotten you banned under the old Twitter regime. Now, today, if you

00:35:11.700 dox Elon Musk and his family, that could get you banned under the new Twitter regime. I guess as a

00:35:18.620 matter of procedure, there's a similarity because certain speech can get you banned. But that's where

00:35:26.780 the similarities end. Okay. Those are completely different uses of speech. And it is not the same

00:35:34.780 thing to say, we will ban you for telling the truth and stating an important fact, namely that men who

00:35:42.960 pretend to be women are actually men versus we're going to ban you for endangering a man's life and

00:35:48.540 behaving in it. And I would go further than that. I think there's plenty of speech that we can police

00:35:53.080 and discourage. That has always been true. Yet, political correctness is a speech code.

00:35:59.480 So is chivalry. So is being a gentleman. Okay. It's not the same. Well, if we wield political power,

00:36:07.420 why then we'll be the same as the liberals? No, we won't. Because while there can be similarities

00:36:14.240 with process and procedure, similarities in substance matter too. I was having this debate

00:36:19.980 on TimCast. If you, Michael, if you encourage good things and ban bad things, why then you're no

00:36:31.060 different from the left, which encourages bad things and bans good things. No, good and bad are not the

00:36:36.040 same. But Michael, the leftists think that they're right. Right, but they're wrong. But how do you

00:36:42.400 know what's right and wrong? Because we just do. That's what ultimately this debate on TimCast broke

00:36:47.100 down to us. I asked Luke. I said, Luke, you're telling me we can't know the difference between good

00:36:52.900 and bad, right and wrong? He says, no, we can't. It's just arbitrary. I said, okay, do you think, do you

00:36:58.700 think it's better to bake a pie for a widow or to kick a baby in the head? And which is, and he said,

00:37:04.780 well, I'm not answering that. That's a ridiculous question. It's not a ridiculous question.

00:37:07.720 It's a very simple, it's a hypothetical. It's not a hypothetical. I'm not asking him a hypothetical

00:37:11.100 question, which relies on conditional statements. I'm asking him a question in the present, in the

00:37:16.720 here and now. Is it better to bake a pie for a widow or to kick a baby in the head? We all know

00:37:23.740 that it's better to kick the, no, I'm joking. We all know it's better to bake the pie for the widow.

00:37:27.460 So if we all know that, then that means that we can come to certain conclusions about what is good

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00:39:29.560 The liberals pretend to trust people. They pretend to believe in that slogan,

00:39:35.640 Vox Populi, Vox Dei. But they do not actually trust people. You see this very clearly with what

00:39:40.600 the House Dems are trying to do right now. They're trying to prevent Trump from running again.

00:39:46.800 Dozens of House Democrats are lining up behind legislation put forward by Representative David

00:39:53.980 Cicilline that would ban Donald Trump from running for president again. This bill will not work.

00:40:01.020 It would get absolutely shredded in court. But it's instructive because it shows you

00:40:05.560 how afraid the House Democrats are of Trump. Even still, even when they pretend,

00:40:11.360 we don't care, Trump's a loser. We hope he's on the ticket because he's going to get you. Well,

00:40:16.980 they're clearly not all that confident because they're trying to pass legislation that would bar

00:40:23.260 him from ever appearing on a ballot. Why? Because they know that if the guy's on a ballot,

00:40:28.140 there's a fair chance he becomes president again. So what they're trying to do is use section three

00:40:32.080 of the 14th Amendment to boot him from running again because they're accusing Trump of orchestrating

00:40:39.760 an insurrection on January 6th. January 6th, the very worst day in the history of, right?

00:40:48.760 Because it was an insurrection, except that none of the people involved in January 6th have been

00:40:57.000 charged with inciting or participating in an insurrection. They've been charged with disorderly

00:41:04.000 conduct. They've been charged with vandalism. No one has been charged with insurrection.

00:41:11.660 Trump has not been convicted or charged with insurrection, none of it. It's all totally bogus.

00:41:19.640 But this is having the opposite effect, I think, of what the House stems we're going for.

00:41:24.540 It is, to me, making the strongest argument for Trump 2024. I think I have been more fair than

00:41:35.380 pretty much any other conservative in public life when it comes to the 2024 presidential race.

00:41:42.600 There are a lot of people who say, I will never veer from Donald Trump, do or die, ride or die. I am

00:41:51.040 100% with him. I will not consider any other candidates, period. There are a lot of people

00:41:55.080 who say that. Though generally not so much in the media space. In the media space, what you're hearing

00:42:01.580 from is pretty much every single conservative talking head saying that they're all in for Ron

00:42:07.140 DeSantis. And fair enough, Ron DeSantis has done a fabulous job as governor of Florida. But they're

00:42:12.420 basically campaigning for Ron DeSantis already. And here I am, alone, crying out, saying,

00:42:18.040 hey, everybody, the thing is two years out. Hey, everybody, we don't actually need to pick a

00:42:24.920 nominee two years out. There's something called a primary process. You can kind of let that play

00:42:30.320 out. Ron DeSantis hasn't even said he's running yet for president. Right, I've been yelling this

00:42:35.480 basically into the void. I've tried to be very, very fair. I love Donald Trump. He is the greatest

00:42:42.380 president of my lifetime. I would happily vote for him again if he were the nominee.

00:42:46.700 I like Ron DeSantis. I don't know him very well. I'm very impressed by what he's done in Florida.

00:42:52.080 I would happily vote for Ron DeSantis, assuming some terrible thing doesn't come out in the primary

00:42:56.720 process. I would happily vote for Ron DeSantis if he were the nominee. I think there are plenty of

00:43:01.980 other good candidates, actually, who maybe haven't even gotten into the race yet. And I would happily

00:43:06.160 vote for many of them if they were the nominee. One of the best arguments, though, for Trump

00:43:12.220 in particular over all the other guys, is the libs, I think, still hate him the most.

00:43:19.820 And I don't want to just base my whole political life over who the libs hate the most, but it is a

00:43:26.420 pretty good rule of thumb. Okay, it is a pretty good heuristic to be able to look out and say, okay,

00:43:33.200 here's a gut check here. Who do the libs consider to be the biggest threat? Who are they working the

00:43:37.940 hardest to stop from taking office again? Maybe it's because that guy is actually challenging the

00:43:42.520 system. Not perfectly, not with everything I want, but they seem to fear him the most. Okay,

00:43:48.800 that's a good argument. Who knows? It might change. Maybe they'll start going after DeSantis more. Maybe

00:43:53.860 they'll start going after some other guy more. But right now, it's one of the best arguments for

00:43:58.740 Trump. Another good argument for Trump. He's still very popular. He is. And you don't want to

00:44:04.140 believe it, but he is. I know there are some of you out there, not all, some of you do want to

00:44:08.840 believe it. But there are some of you out there that say, we've had enough of Trump. Well, let's

00:44:11.880 move on from Trump. I'm just telling you, he's still very popular. And the proof of this is what

00:44:16.700 we were joking about at the end of last week. You remember, Trump said, I've got a huge announcement,

00:44:21.840 major, major announcement. America needs a superhero. This is going to be huge. And then what's

00:44:27.600 he announced? He announces that he's selling digital trading cards. So they're not even physical,

00:44:33.720 digital trading cards with his face as a bunch of different superheroes. And one, he's a football

00:44:40.940 player. And one, he's an astronaut. Really, really weird. And I thought, okay, this is funny. I am

00:44:48.360 laughing about this. I wish it were tied to something a little more substantive. But okay, well, I'm here to

00:44:54.360 tell you, the trading cards sold out within hours. And you might say, Michael, how does a computer image

00:45:02.980 sell out? Do the people know, instead of paying $100 for a digital image, do they know you can just

00:45:08.660 right click to save image as, and then you have it on your, no, this is an NFT. What is an NFT? I don't

00:45:15.120 even really know. I did sell one once though. And it's a unique token though. They had a limited number

00:45:20.680 of these. They only had 45,000 of these cards. Pretty substantial number. They sold out almost

00:45:27.800 immediately. 14,000 people bought up all of the cards. And this is the key. The people bought,

00:45:34.420 you might just say, okay, 14,000 speculators went out and bought up an asset. And the price did

00:45:39.360 initially drop after they bought them up. So they say, okay, there it is. This is worthless. But then

00:45:44.900 the price went back up. And the price has actually only been really increasing since then. Which means

00:45:53.500 that not only the people, not only the public opinion polls, but the market still believes that

00:46:01.220 Trump is a valuable asset. That Trump is a viable commodity. That is why Democrats are trying to kill

00:46:11.040 his campaign in the cradle. Because even though they're putting out a lot of press and a lot of

00:46:17.740 surveys and a lot of headlines, Trump's over, he's done, he's totally finished, he's going nowhere.

00:46:21.980 They don't totally believe that. They realize that in politics where there's life, there's hope.

00:46:28.960 And they realize, well, you know, certain public opinion polls telling me that Trump's popular.

00:46:34.320 You know, he did win the presidency once already. The market telling me Trump actually, he's not

00:46:39.700 totally, totally out. And so they're trying through corruption to destroy his campaign. Now,

00:46:47.740 speaking of Democrat corruption, the White House will not answer basic questions about their own

00:46:54.360 corruption and their ties to very corrupt people, like Sam Bankman-Fried, who ran the FTX scam,

00:46:59.000 who was the second biggest donor to Democrats in 2022. Karine Jean-Pierre was just asked by Zeke

00:47:04.460 Miller, White House reporter, hey, is Biden going to give back all that money that he got from that

00:47:09.860 fraudster over there? Here's the answer from the White House.

00:47:12.860 Up to the news about the former Republican TX and Bank of Freedom was arrested in the Bahamas.

00:47:18.820 The president received campaign donations, campaign donations from him, many prominent

00:47:23.560 Democrats and some Republicans did as well. Will the president return that donation? Does he call on

00:47:28.000 all politicians who got campaign donations that may have come from customer money to return those funds?

00:47:33.460 So look, I'm covered here by the Hatch Act, limited on what I can say. And anything that's connected to

00:47:39.420 political contributions from here, I would have to refer you to the DNC.

00:47:44.840 I'm asking the president's opinion, though. Does he want those people who...

00:47:49.200 No, you asked me two questions. You asked me about will he return the donations, and then you asked me

00:47:53.680 about his opinion. I'm answering the first part, which is I'm covered by the Hatch Act from here.

00:47:58.440 I am limited on what I can say. And I just can't talk to political contributions or anything related

00:48:04.300 to that. I cannot speak about it from here. And then his opinion, though. I just cannot speak to

00:48:10.640 this from here. Even his opinion, even his thoughts about the contributions, donations, I cannot speak

00:48:17.040 from it, about that from here. And then are you covered by the Hatch Act? I am covered by the Hatch Act,

00:48:21.600 which I'm happy to say over and over again, because we believe in the rule of law here.

00:48:25.660 So her answer is totally bogus. The Hatch Act exists to root out political corruption

00:48:32.440 and stop people who have government offices from using those government offices to conduct

00:48:38.540 campaign work, to extort money out of people, to trade government positions for money, to trade

00:48:46.560 favors. That's what it's for. It has absolutely nothing to do with the White House press secretary

00:48:50.980 not being able to speak on a major matter of campaign finance. It's totally bogus.

00:48:56.140 Zeke Miller, the reporter there, understands it's totally bogus. Zeke was actually a friend

00:49:00.760 of mine. He's a friend of mine from college. And he's a really good reporter. And he's not

00:49:05.260 a right-wing conservative by any stretch of the imagination. And he's not a total far-left

00:49:10.260 liberal. He's just a good reporter. And you hear him just dogging her on this. He says,

00:49:13.920 the Hatch Act, that's your answer. You sure? That's your story and you're sticking to it? Yes,

00:49:19.100 we're covered by the Weedow. We're not saying a word about how the second largest donor to the

00:49:24.380 Democrats last cycle is maybe the biggest financial scammer in American history. Nope, nope, can't talk

00:49:29.860 about that. Can't, sorry, nothing to see here. Move along, move along, move along. Conservatives

00:49:34.560 should be dogged about this. We should keep trailing them on this. This should become a big issue.

00:49:39.620 Tie them up in court. Tie them up in the press if we can. Don't let this go. Allow the example of

00:49:47.920 Gibson's Bakery over in Oberlin to inspire you. Took six years for justice to be done. Everyone

00:49:56.600 thought the deck is so stacked against this bakery. The university, this college rather,

00:50:01.180 thought there's no way we've got billions of dollars. We're just going to be able to squash

00:50:05.380 this little, little family shot. That's not what happens. If you just fight back, if you just remain

00:50:12.140 persistent, if when you get little bits of political power, you wield that political power,

00:50:16.580 we can take back a lot of our country, take back a lot of our culture, and beat the libs.

00:50:23.860 Now, I got to go catch this flight to Phoenix. You can catch me over there later today at TPUSA.

00:50:29.680 So no member block today. It kills me. I know that's part of my favorite, probably my favorite time

00:50:33.360 of the whole day. Definitely up there. It's when I see my sweet little kids, kiss them goodnight,

00:50:37.460 spend time with my family, and then when I spend time with you on the member block. So join,

00:50:40.640 become a Daily Wire Plus member. We will see you tomorrow. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael

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