The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1149 - Lib Social Worker Secretly Trans-es 13-Year-Old Girl

00:00:00.000 Here's a story you probably haven't heard about, has not gotten much, if any, national press.

00:00:04.780 It's just a local story from a small town in Maine. A 26-year-old public school social worker

00:00:11.480 at Great Salt Bay Community School in Damariscotta, Maine, has been secretly grooming a 13-year-old

00:00:21.040 girl into believing that she's a boy without telling her parents. The girl's mother, Amber

00:00:27.660 Levine, only found out about the psychosexual grooming after she discovered a chest binder 0.99

00:00:34.140 in her daughter's bedroom a few weeks ago, at which point, according to news reports,

00:00:38.980 the daughter told her that she had received the transgender fetish device from a school staffer

00:00:45.000 named Sam Roy. According to the girl's mother, school employees had started using male pronouns

00:00:52.340 to refer to the 13-year-old girl. And Roy told the young girl to keep the transition a secret

00:00:59.320 from her parents. As Amber Levine rightly observed, quote, this is the very definition of child

00:01:07.360 predatory sexual grooming. Predators work to gain a victim's trust by driving a wedge between them

00:01:15.240 and their parents. You probably hadn't heard about this story for a couple of reasons.

00:01:22.080 One, the liberal media obviously want to suppress it. We all know that the media say that this sort of

00:01:27.200 thing isn't happening. And then when it's uncovered, they say it's good that it is happening.

00:01:31.080 But the other reason that you probably had not heard about this story, the other reason that this

00:01:36.160 story is not front page news, as most normal people naturally think that it should be,

00:01:41.140 is that the story is becoming commonplace. It just isn't all that newsy because it keeps happening.

00:01:49.740 And it's not just happening in crazy liberal cities like San Francisco and New York. It's happening

00:01:55.380 everywhere. It's happening all over small town USA. And it is coming to a school near you

00:02:02.780 if it isn't there already. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:08.740 I'm nothing if not a man of my word, all right? And I lost a bet to the Crane & Company guys,

00:04:16.640 I guess to all the hosts actually. And I said I would wear a puka shell necklace if I,

00:04:21.100 I don't even remember really the terms of this bet anymore. But anyway, here's my puka shell

00:04:26.280 necklace. I'm going to look like a, like a really cool surfer girl from the 90s now. That's,

00:04:32.700 that's great. I actually think it looks kind of nice. Maybe I'll wear it even after this.

00:04:37.880 It's certainly fitting with the topic because we're talking about gender transitions. The story in Maine

00:04:42.900 is shocking in how not shocking it is because we've heard this story before, but then you hear

00:04:50.900 it in all these little schools. This isn't some school in the middle of San Fran or LA or New York

00:04:57.180 or Washington DC or something. It's in the middle of nowhere Maine and it's happening. It's happening

00:05:01.460 secretly and it's happening all over the place. It's happening in Indiana. There's just an email that

00:05:06.180 was uncovered. I think it was uncovered by the Heritage Foundation, by the Daily Signal.

00:05:12.400 An Indiana school is forcing staff to hide gender transition plans from parents. This is an email.

00:05:21.660 It's dated August 16th, sent by a counselor at Pendleton Heights High School in Pendleton, Indiana,

00:05:27.860 informing teachers that a student had changed genders. Now, of course, this is not possible

00:05:32.380 to change genders, but that's what the counselor said. The boy's going to be a girl or the girl's

00:05:38.520 going to be a boy. In this case, it's a girl pretending to be a boy and the counselor affirms

00:05:44.040 this, provides new male pronouns, and says that teachers should not inform the student's parents

00:05:50.340 because they were, quote, not supportive of the decision. Now, that's a very interesting observation

00:05:58.480 because the teacher or the counselor is saying, don't tell the parents what has happened because

00:06:07.520 the parents don't support it. How do you know the parents don't support it if you won't tell them?

00:06:12.960 You can't. The very fact of informing someone or not informing someone should determine that,

00:06:20.040 but it's not. They're just assuming the family is not supportive of this,

00:06:24.120 and so we're just going to do it anyway. Two really big facts here. The school is

00:06:32.160 sexually grooming this child, and then the school is saying when there's a disagreement between

00:06:40.240 us, the liberal educators, and the parents, the liberal educators win out. Indiana, middle of nowhere

00:06:49.080 Indiana. This is happening in your town, or it's happening in a town near you. I can almost

00:06:57.400 guarantee it. And do you know who started this entire trend? This is almost out of a movie.

00:07:06.840 One of the main people behind this now national school policy to hide gender transitions of little 0.99

00:07:14.840 kids from parents was the bald-headed, lipstick-wearing, stiletto-having, luggage-stealing

00:07:21.980 nuclear waste official from the Biden administration, Sam Brinton, who, if this were a cartoon, if this

00:07:29.120 were a comic book, which increasingly our country seems to be, this guy would be one of the big

00:07:34.480 supervillains. He looks like it. He acts like it. And this guy was behind the policy that now

00:07:43.820 instructs schools to keep this sexual grooming from parents. Because before Sam Brinton worked

00:07:50.560 in the Biden administration, he worked for a terrible group called the Trevor Project.

00:07:56.360 Now, the Trevor Project seems like it has a really good mission. The Trevor Project,

00:08:01.180 part of its mission, it says, is to prevent LGBT youths from killing themselves. Well, that's a worthwhile 1.00

00:08:08.280 endeavor. We don't want LGBT youths or any other youths to kill themselves. And so that's a great 0.80

00:08:13.800 thing. But in practice, that's not what the Trevor Project does. In practice, what the Trevor Project

00:08:17.820 does is works over time to indoctrinate kids into radical LGBT ideology. It works to promote 0.90

00:08:27.280 transgenderism for ever younger groups of people. We're talking about major mutilations, 1.00

00:08:32.620 disfigurements that will last a whole lifetime that could sterilize kids. All it does is work to do, 0.56

00:08:39.640 all it works to do, rather, is to double down on this crazy ideology. And so when Brinton was working

00:08:47.280 for the Trevor Project in 2019, he was directing advocacy and government affairs there. He helped

00:08:53.140 create a model for school district policy for suicide prevention. And the model has been adopted,

00:08:59.380 at least partially, by state education departments in Arizona, Idaho, as well as local school districts

00:09:04.620 in California, New Hampshire, Oregon. Other states, including Washington and New Jersey, have similar

00:09:09.200 policies. And the model is don't tell parents when their kids start getting into the weird sex stuff.

00:09:17.800 That's the model. And it's hard even to talk about it because they say, well, we're doing this to

00:09:23.520 prevent suicides. And it reminds me of every abusive relationship you've ever heard of.

00:09:28.120 Man, woman, doesn't matter. Every abusive relationship, when it gets really, really bad, 0.94

00:09:33.860 they say, if you don't do exactly what I want, I'm going to kill myself.

00:09:38.980 And it's this kind of emotional blackmail and exploitation and manipulation where even the

00:09:44.820 people made of the toughest stuff will very often give in. It's just, well, I don't want that to

00:09:49.760 happen. And what the Trevor Project does here, what Sam Brinton does here is even worse.

00:09:54.700 Because they're saying, if you don't give us exactly what we want, your kid is going to kill

00:10:00.120 himself. And what do we want? We want you to pump your kid full of hormones, put your kid on puberty

00:10:06.060 blockers, eventually chop off your kid's genitals, and pretend that your little son is actually your 1.00

00:10:10.920 little daughter, or your little daughter is actually your little son. And if you don't do that, your kid

00:10:15.900 is going to kill himself. That's what they're saying. Evil, evil stuff. And not true, by the way,

00:10:21.320 not backed up by any evidence whatsoever, no evidence that the gender transition and the

00:10:27.640 various mutilations that go along with it actually reduce suicide rates among people who suffer this

00:10:33.280 sexual and gender confusion. Zero evidence. There's a lot of evidence that people come to

00:10:38.800 regret their transitions, even though the number of people who have ever gone through these procedures

00:10:43.440 is extraordinarily small. It's growing very quickly. And so now we're finally starting to see the first

00:10:48.840 round of people who are beginning to regret this. And they're coming out, they're saying,

00:10:51.520 I've destroyed my body. I've ruined my voice. I've ruined my hair. I'm sterile. How on earth

00:10:56.780 could adults have allowed a 14-year-old to do this sort of thing? We're finally hearing that.

00:11:00.780 The Trevor Project, Sam Brinton, these school districts in Indiana and Maine, all over the

00:11:05.100 country, they say, no, forget about that. Ignore that. If you don't engage in the radical,

00:11:12.000 insane ideology to mutilate and castrate your kids, well, they're just going to kill themselves, 0.57

00:11:16.800 and you're going to have that blood on your hands. Can you imagine? Why does Sam Brinton care so much

00:11:23.400 about your kids? Why do all these people? They're all the same. You know there are all these weirdo

00:11:30.020 guidance counselors like the guy up in Maine, the 26-year-old. I think he's a guy. Who knows?

00:11:34.080 He goes by Sam, which I guess is gender ambiguous. But who knows? I guess he presents as a guy,

00:11:40.180 so let's call him a guy. Why is he so interested in a 13-year-old girl and psychosexually grooming

00:11:46.780 her? Why is Sam Brinton? I think a large part of the reason why these people are so focused on your

00:11:53.740 kids and driving a wedge between you and your kids and perverting the mind and body of your kids 0.97

00:11:59.060 is in large part because they don't have kids themselves. I'm not saying they would abuse their 0.59

00:12:05.080 children or sexually abuse their children or anything like that. I'm saying when people have

00:12:09.700 children, they raise their children in the way that they want them to be raised. If you're a

00:12:13.820 Christian family, you're going to raise your kids to be Christian. If you're a Jewish family, 0.98

00:12:16.720 you're going to raise your kids to be Jewish. If you're a weird lib, you're going to raise your kids 1.00

00:12:19.800 and you're going to at least try to raise your kids to be a weird lib. But these people don't have

00:12:24.340 kids. And so I think they're, I strongly suspect their natural longings to form the next generation

00:12:30.160 are just being projected onto your kids where there is so much less accountability, where they are so

00:12:35.180 much more willing to engage in radical kind of behaviors because they won't have to deal with any of

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00:14:05.240 There's another big consequence of people not having kids beyond the insane transformation of

00:14:11.060 our education system. This might be the saddest story that I have read in a while. And I'm reading

00:14:19.080 stories about these creepy adults mutilating children, so that's a lot to say this might be

00:14:23.380 the saddest story. The toy industry has only one main area of growth in recent years. And that main

00:14:34.380 area of growth is adults. Kids are not buying more and more toys. Adults are. They call them kiddults.

00:14:48.480 Buying toys for themselves as the biggest source of growth for the industry. Kiddults have a great

00:14:56.220 fondness for cartoons, Star Wars, and Lego. In recent years, toy makers such as Mattel have created

00:15:02.860 lines just for these consumers. These kids at heart are responsible for one quarter of all toy sales

00:15:10.120 annually. Stop. Stop. I'm preaching to the choir here because I strongly suspect the kind of people

00:15:21.500 who listen to this show are not the kind of adults who issue all of their responsibilities and regress

00:15:28.300 into living, you know, moving into their childhood bedrooms and playing with little toys all day long

00:15:33.280 while their mother makes them cookies and brings them milk. I assume, I think I have good reason to

00:15:38.940 believe that the people listening to this show tend to be a little more responsible and mature.

00:15:43.820 So I'm preaching to the choir. But if you know someone, if you know an adult who is buying a lot of toys,

00:15:53.460 tell them to stop. Stop it. Cut it out. I go back to this advice all the time on the show.

00:16:02.620 Don Corleone sitting there with Johnny Fontaine shakes him. He says, you can act like a man.

00:16:06.580 What's the matter with you? What is the matter with you? I've seen this happen. The reason I know

00:16:12.860 this isn't just made up. I mean, we're seeing data from the NPD group. It's being reported in other

00:16:18.920 major outlets. But the reason I know it's happening is friends of mine have done this.

00:16:24.960 Friends of mine, they'll get really into Legos or something, or they'll get really into playing with

00:16:30.100 some toy or even stuffed animals or even they. And why is that? It's because they're nostalgic.

00:16:36.820 And nostalgia is a temptation. It's a temptation we should resist because nostalgia is history after

00:16:41.800 a few drinks. And those halcyon days were not quite as great as you remember them being. And even if

00:16:46.620 they were, you can't go to the past. And while it is perfectly appropriate for a five-year-old to play

00:16:51.420 with little toys, it is not appropriate for a 25-year-old to play with little toys. Just as

00:16:56.060 it is totally normal for someone in their mid-20s to spend a lot of time bar hopping,

00:17:02.080 you know, going out every night of the weekend, hitting up a bunch of bars and dance clubs and

00:17:07.840 discotheques. I don't know. I sound like such a boomer. Going down to the old dance hall and playing

00:17:12.480 pool. But, you know, that's totally normal for people in their 20s. It's less normal for people

00:17:18.240 in their 50s to be doing that sort of thing. There is a time to every season under heaven, okay? A time

00:17:23.560 for war, a time for peace, a time for playing with little toys, a time for not playing with little

00:17:27.260 toys. And the millennial generation, I'm sorry to say, it's my own generation, they don't want to

00:17:33.380 grow up. They're delaying marriage. They're delaying moving out of their parents' house. They're delaying

00:17:37.420 getting jobs. They're delaying having kids. They're delaying everything. They're stuck as overgrown

00:17:42.560 children. And they really should stop that, okay? It's not cute. It's not you playing with your

00:17:49.580 little toys. It's not cute. McDonald's just came out and offered a kid's meal for adults

00:17:54.340 playing on this very problem of perpetual adolescence among people who are way too old 0.95

00:18:02.660 for that now, okay? Stop it. The thing is, when you're an adult, you're bogged down and, you know,

00:18:10.680 you've got maybe tough relationships and you've got your job that you're slogging through. And so, yes,

00:18:15.240 you do need an outlet for recreation and leisure. That's true. Now, one hopes that you can cultivate

00:18:21.860 interests that are more appropriate to your age group. So, I buy plenty of toys, right? But the

00:18:27.500 toys that I buy are little musical instruments. So, yeah, they're things little kids can play with,

00:18:31.400 but I'm not buying like little plush Star Wars figures or something like that, okay?

00:18:37.080 I buy cigars. That's a toy for adults. I buy whiskey. That's a toy for adults, okay?

00:18:43.600 I'm not saying you can't have your fun activities. And by the way, sometimes you do. You have this

00:18:48.880 drive of nostalgia and you want to play with a little toy. You want to get down and play with

00:18:53.960 a train set or something like that. You can do that as an adult with your children, okay? It's fun to

00:19:00.660 play with your children. Even me, I'm pretty stodgy. I like getting down on the ground and playing with

00:19:05.260 the little blocks or whatever with my kids. And that is the properly ordered way to channel that

00:19:12.040 natural, nostalgic yearning for the innocence and joys of youth. But if you take the kid out of

00:19:18.920 that, and it was just you, you know, a 30-something sitting there in your gym jams playing with a

00:19:25.000 train track, that is sad. Don't do that. Okay, goodness. It's like something that the libs always

00:19:31.960 do, which is they want the image of the thing. They want the facade of the thing, but they don't

00:19:38.640 want the essence of the thing. I'm speaking a little abstractly, so I'll drive it home.

00:19:43.640 Libs are the kind of people who love decaf coffee, okay? Libs are the kind of people who love

00:19:48.300 transvestitism. They love the sort of exterior, outward symptoms of a thing, but they don't want 1.00

00:19:56.160 the essence of it. So yes, it's fun to play around when you're an adult, but the essence of playing

00:20:03.060 around when you're an adult is doing it with your child to entertain your child, to form a close

00:20:07.260 relationship and to educate that child. When you're just doing it for yourself, it's just sad.

00:20:13.580 And the late-stage capitalists are profiting off of you and encouraging you to do it. Because

00:20:21.580 the thing is, I don't mean to harp too much on the selfishness of my millennial cohort, because there

00:20:30.860 are a lot of social factors that are pushing this. I even intentionally use this language of

00:20:37.240 the commies when they're always whining about late-stage capitalism, because that is a little

00:20:41.420 bit of a problem too. It's not just the big government that is pushing people into these

00:20:47.820 culturally degrading behaviors. It's also private industry. It's also entertainment. It's also

00:20:54.300 social media. All of that is working right now. There was a piece just in NBC. Well, actually,

00:20:59.900 the piece appeared five years ago. It just is circulating again because it was referenced in a

00:21:04.720 Washington Post column that also has been circulating very recently, which is that science proves kids

00:21:11.840 are bad for the earth. Morality suggests we stop having them. We need to stop having kids because 0.83

00:21:19.980 it's bad for the environment. It has ethical consequences. This is written by someone who

00:21:24.520 pretends to be a bioethicist. This is someone named Travis Reeder. And what does he say? He says,

00:21:30.780 several years ago, the scientists showed that having a child, especially for the world's wealthy,

00:21:35.580 it's one of the worst things you can do for the environment. That statement is essentially a

00:21:41.060 meaningless statement, by the way. But he says scientists prove it. So if they're scientists,

00:21:44.440 they have lab codes. So obviously it's true. Having a child imposes high emissions on the world while

00:21:49.040 the parents get the benefit. So like with any high cost luxury, we should limit our indulgence of

00:21:54.720 children. Then he goes, and this is an amazing analogy. He says, if I release a murderer from

00:21:59.480 prison knowing full well that he intends to kill innocent people, then I bear some responsibility

00:22:03.360 for those deaths, even though the killer is also fully responsible. My having released him doesn't

00:22:08.620 make him less responsible. He did it, but his doing it doesn't eliminate my responsibility either.

00:22:13.580 Something similar is true, I think, when it comes to having children. Once my daughter is an

00:22:17.300 autonomous agent, she'll be responsible for her emissions, but that doesn't negate any responsibility.

00:22:21.820 Moral responsibility simply isn't mathematical. Okay, so he's comparing having kids with murdering

00:22:27.000 people. And this is a telling analogy, because this is what all these guys think. They think that

00:22:31.460 human beings are a disease, and that's why they encourage us to not have kids. And you're having 0.58

00:22:37.200 the government encourage you to not have kids, and you're having the non-government, non-profit

00:22:41.280 organizations encouraging you to not have kids, and you're having the for-profit corporations

00:22:45.380 encouraging you to not have kids. You're getting taxpayer-subsidized abortion and contraception.

00:22:50.320 You are getting NGOs going all around the world, and in our own country, pushing abortion, 0.98

00:22:55.400 pushing contraception, pushing family planning and Planned Parenthood. But you're getting the

00:22:59.560 corporations doing it too. Corporations paying for people to get abortions. Why? Because it's not

00:23:04.420 just the evil big government, and it's not just the awful, terrible activists who are professional

00:23:08.700 agitators. It's the capitalists too. Recognize that, you know, if those moms are staying home raising 1.00

00:23:15.340 their families, that's not going to be great for weight. That's going to raise wages. That's going 0.91

00:23:19.520 to raise the cost of labor. That if the women do happen to work, you're going to have to give them 1.00

00:23:23.700 maternity leave. That's going to be very, very expensive. It'd be a lot cheaper just to convince 1.00

00:23:27.160 the mother to not have children in the first place, to not get married, so you don't even have 0.51

00:23:31.320 the possibility of children, you know, a man and a woman in a perpetual union for the good of the

00:23:36.740 spouses and the sake of the generation and education of children. Or if they do get pregnant, 0.98

00:23:41.220 just encourage that woman to kill her baby. There are incentives at every stage of the government 0.99

00:23:48.080 to do this sort of thing. And what I feel so sorry for so many of my millennial

00:23:54.140 friends and cohort and people who are younger as well, because they're being duped. They're

00:24:01.220 being tricked into this by so many of the lies of our culture. I was just talking about this with

00:24:05.700 my cousin yesterday. I got to see my cousin. And he said, man, you know, it's only in recent years

00:24:10.340 I've really been thinking about it. I realized going out all the time is not totally fulfilling.

00:24:15.660 But that's what the culture is telling us to do. Go out. Don't get married. Dump your girlfriend.

00:24:20.320 Dump your boyfriend. Move to the city. Have casual sex all the time. Don't have any attachments.

00:24:24.980 Don't have any kids. It's selfish. It's bad for the environment. It's bad for the company.

00:24:29.340 It's bad for the country. It's bad for the entitlements. It's bad for the blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:24:33.560 blah. It's always the same thing. And it goes right back to the first lie in the Garden of Eden.

00:24:38.820 It goes right back to the prince of lies himself. And it's the marker of the devil. I'm not speaking

00:24:44.660 hyperbolically here. When you have movements that hate people, that want fewer people, that want to

00:24:51.520 kill people, that want to limit the number of people, that don't want people to be born in the 0.74

00:24:54.920 first place, that is the marker of the devil. And you should be aware. And you should not be duped.

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00:26:33.220 Another big consequence of depopulation or of stagnant populations where the population is not

00:26:38.980 growing. Actually, in the United States, we have a dying population. One of the consequences is mass

00:26:43.620 migration, which the government loves and which private industry loves. The big government liberal

00:26:51.800 Democrats, they love mass migration. These mass migration, they believe, and I think they have 0.54

00:26:57.420 good reason to believe, gives them a permanent electoral advantage. Because immigrants, the kind 1.00

00:27:03.020 of immigrants that the Democrats are importing right now from Latin America, with few exceptions,

00:27:07.980 the Cubans would maybe be an exception, but with few exceptions, they vote Democrat, their kids vote

00:27:12.440 Democrat, their grandkids vote Democrat. There's a big movement of a lot of them over to the Republicans

00:27:16.240 right now, but it still favors the Dems. So that's why the government likes it. Private industry, which

00:27:22.520 has more representation for conservatives than Republicans, they also love mass migration. The

00:27:26.600 reason they love mass migration is because it provides a cheap workforce and it keeps wages low

00:27:32.440 and allows businesses to increase their profit margins. So you've got this effort right now

00:27:40.180 from both sides of the political aisle in the United States to encourage Americans not to have more

00:27:46.200 children and to import in order to keep up the entitlement state, in order to keep industry going.

00:27:51.380 You then import cheaper workers from the third world, and that's what's happening. 0.90

00:27:55.480 According to Customs and Border Protection, tens of thousands of migrants are headed to the U.S. border

00:28:01.600 right now. This happens every so often, where you'll see some huge migrant caravan

00:28:08.280 working its way up through Latin America. These events shouldn't be all that shocking in that we

00:28:13.940 have two million illegal aliens come every single year. We have thousands and thousands of people

00:28:17.940 every single day across our border. But when you see these incidents where it's 30,000, 40,000,

00:28:24.180 CBP agents are now predicting more than 40,000 migrants in southern Mexico who will soon be at the U.S.

00:28:31.060 border. When you see that, it's shocking because you can at least look at the pictures. But

00:28:35.120 you're getting a tenth of that every day in the United States. So it's only shocking in that it

00:28:42.240 allows us to see what is persistently happening in the country. What is this? This is not just

00:28:48.560 politics. This is not just an issue, okay, where you talk about abortion as an issue. Very serious

00:28:55.560 issue, but it's an issue. Taxes, that's an issue. The war in Iraq. Are we still fighting that one? I

00:29:02.580 think we wrapped that one up. The war in Ukraine. The war wherever. That's an issue. Immigration,

00:29:09.000 this kind of mass migration, is not a regular political issue. It is a meta-political issue.

00:29:15.640 It's the politics of politics. It's the politics of how the Democrats are going to win at politics.

00:29:22.780 Because by flooding the country with illegal aliens, and with legal immigrants too, 0.99

00:29:27.200 legal immigrants also overwhelmingly vote for Democrats. So you've got two million illegal

00:29:31.960 immigrants, one million legal immigrants coming in every single year. This represents the largest

00:29:36.900 movement of human beings in recorded history. And that's into the United States over the past 60

00:29:42.380 years. You are seeing the Democrats transform the demography of the country to favor them.

00:29:47.780 That's why they're doing it. It's not because they have any particular love for Guatemalan peasants.

00:29:54.480 Okay, they don't. But they do have love for winning elections. And so you're seeing this

00:29:59.440 meta-political change, and the Republicans largely fail to address it. There's one exception here,

00:30:05.400 and this is some good news. The Supreme Court, led by Chief Justice Roberts, who is usually a big squish,

00:30:12.740 has just temporarily halted the entrance of this migrant caravan into the United States.

00:30:18.640 And the way he did it was by granting an 11th hour request by more than a dozen GOP-controlled

00:30:25.060 states to temporarily pause a lower court ruling that had ordered the end of a COVID-era protection

00:30:32.800 known as Title 42. So all a very complicated political issue. Title 42 was used by the Trump

00:30:40.620 administration. It's a public health law to allow US border officials to expel illegal aliens. Even

00:30:47.000 if the illegal aliens want to apply for political asylum, and usually they're not really political

00:30:52.720 asylum cases. Usually they're just economic migrants looking to make some money. But many will 1.00

00:30:57.960 pretend to be seeking political asylum. And this then triggers a process where it's much more difficult

00:31:03.560 to expel them from the country. Well, Title 42 says, look, we're in a pandemic. COVID, you all know

00:31:09.880 COVID is so dangerous. It's the most dangerous virus we've ever seen in the whole wide world.

00:31:15.680 And so because of that, we're now going to use this public health law to expel the illegal aliens. 1.00

00:31:23.080 Talk about making lemonade out of lemons. Talk about a silver lining in a storm cloud. So Trump

00:31:28.700 used this mechanism very wisely. That was a very, very smart move by Trump. Biden's been trying to

00:31:36.040 undo it. But it's not so easy. It's just undoing it and snapping your fingers. You have to take this

00:31:40.480 through the courts. And the Supreme Court has just said, no, we're going to leave it in place

00:31:43.960 for now. And so the Democrats are stymied in their plans to flood the country with the illegal aliens. 0.93

00:31:51.680 What we should learn from the use of Title 42, and from this great, at least temporary decision from

00:31:58.800 the Supreme Court is, one, elections really do matter. We sometimes get depressed. We say the

00:32:05.360 elections don't matter. They rig the votes. They don't. But elections really do matter.

00:32:09.860 Roe v. Wade was determined by elections. The ending of Roe v. Wade was determined by Republicans

00:32:14.460 just barely eking through their president, getting their judges on the court just in the right amount

00:32:18.720 of time, and then this court making important decisions. Even Roberts, who is a squishy judge,

00:32:25.160 having him on the court just gave us the halting of this migrant caravan at the border.

00:32:32.980 But the more important lesson, I think, to learn is conservatives should use Democrat ops and

00:32:41.780 hoaxes and political dirty tricks against them. The Democrats are always going to be playing their

00:32:50.500 dirty tricks. The Democrats are always going to say, oh, there's a virus from China. We need to shut down

00:32:56.040 all the churches, shut down the businesses. We need to transfer wealth from small businesses to large

00:33:02.000 corporations that are in our pockets or in whose pockets we are. Sometimes it gets a little bit

00:33:06.220 blurry. And we need to force you to take this shot. We need to change education. We need to change

00:33:13.020 everything. We need a great reset. We're going to do every single thing that we wanted to do for

00:33:17.400 a hundred years. Yeah, all because of the virus, right? Total dirty trick, total political operation.

00:33:23.640 But like any good chess player, like any good athlete, when you see your light, you got to take

00:33:31.940 it. And so Trump saw the light on that and he said, okay, we've got this terrible virus and you're

00:33:36.520 going to say it's the worst thing ever. Okay, good. Then we're going to have to use Title 42.

00:33:40.020 Because if it's so terrible, it's such a terrible virus, then we can't let these tens of thousands of

00:33:44.540 migrants come in, right? And then we're going to say, wait, wait, wait, well, no, I don't know

00:33:47.820 about that. You say, hold on, what are you talking about? You're telling me that an adult American,

00:33:52.560 totally healthy, at no risk whatsoever, really from this virus, is not allowed to go shopping

00:33:58.640 if he doesn't have three booster shots of the experimental drug. But a Nicaraguan peasant 1.00

00:34:05.180 coming through with no inoculation whatsoever, he can just come right into the country waltzing in 0.74

00:34:10.780 and it's no big deal. What are you talking about? I have to get a COVID test every time I want to

00:34:16.240 walk into a hospital to see a sick relative. Usually I'm not even allowed into those hospitals.

00:34:21.200 We're not allowed to bury our own dead. This is so dangerous, we have to quarantine. But you're

00:34:25.560 telling me that tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of Latin American migrants can just 0.97

00:34:33.240 walk right on through, no big deal. We're not even going to take the temperature? Come on,

00:34:37.160 that's ridiculous. Well, they got us there. And we've used that and we have been able to stop

00:34:43.080 some illegal immigration. Now, that's not enough, but it's just a reminder for those conservatives

00:34:50.000 who say, well, if we ever do the sorts of things that the libs do, the libs use these mechanisms and

00:34:58.120 they use it for injustice and immorality and to make our country worse. If we ever use these kinds of

00:35:02.860 legal and political mechanisms to make our country better, well, that would make us no different from

00:35:07.200 the liberals. No, it would. It would make you very different because good and bad are opposites.

00:35:10.680 They're different and they're opposites. Making the country better and making the country worse

00:35:15.240 are not the same thing. Well, in both cases, you're using the power of the state and you're using one of

00:35:20.740 these laws and you're having the judges come in and yeah, right. It's called politics. It's called

00:35:25.040 politics. And it's good to use politics for good things. I mean, it's bad to use politics for bad

00:35:33.800 things. And it's not hypocritical when you do good things and you don't want to do bad things, okay?

00:35:39.500 It's not hypocritical at all. This was the topic of my speech yesterday at AmericaFest, an amazing,

00:35:45.320 amazing event. As always, nobody throws a show and a party and a political event like Charlie Kirk and

00:35:51.880 TPUSA. Nobody does it. It's just amazing. There were, I think, 12,000 attendees at AmericaFest in

00:35:58.920 Phoenix yesterday. Just in the one big room, I think there were something like 8,000 chairs and there

00:36:04.500 were so many other events simultaneously happening. It was just amazing. You can catch my speech on the

00:36:08.720 TPUSA YouTube page. But it really gives you hope. It gives you hope. You think, okay, these are pretty

00:36:15.000 clever, fired up people. Maybe there's a way to break the Democrat, the liberal hegemony. I'll give you a

00:36:21.240 great example of a liberal, ridiculous op. The January 6th committee is now referring Donald

00:36:31.360 Trump to the Department of Justice for criminal insurrection charges. Now, this is a committee

00:36:39.140 made up only of Democrats, nominal Democrats, and de facto Democrats. They're urging the DOJ to consider

00:36:49.980 charging Trump with inciting or aiding an insurrection. Democrat Rep. Jamie Raskin announced

00:36:55.620 this referral. He described it as, quote, a grave federal offense anchored in the Constitution itself.

00:37:03.500 And then he noted this was automatic grounds for disqualifying some from holding state or federal

00:37:10.020 office. These people, they don't give up. They don't give up. They don't. 2015, they say Donald Trump,

00:37:18.140 he can't run for office. He slept with models and porn stars. You know that thing that we've all 0.95

00:37:23.220 known about him for decades? You know that thing that a pretty prominent recent Democrat president

00:37:29.260 did very publicly and scandalously? Yeah, Trump, he's disqualified. And then what? He colluded with

00:37:35.740 the Russians. He's disqualified. And then he colluded with the Ukrainians, even though the Ukrainians 0.89

00:37:40.000 hate the Russians. Anyway, he colluded with both somehow, and he's disqualified. And he's an 0.93

00:37:45.140 insurrectionist. And even though no one involved in the Capitol Hill riot has been charged with

00:37:50.220 insurrection at all because it's just ridiculous. He can't run now. And he's a total loser. And

00:37:56.300 everyone hates him. And there's no way he could ever win. And that's why we have to do everything

00:37:58.760 we can to prevent him from appearing on the ballot. That doesn't quite add up to me.

00:38:04.180 What should the GOP take from this? Well, the GOP can mock it. I think it's good to mock the

00:38:11.060 January 6th commission. It's very funny to mock that. And it's good to do that. The GOP can ignore

00:38:16.760 it. Okay, that's fine. The GOP can get angry about it. I don't know why. I wouldn't get angry. It's

00:38:22.340 such a joke. I mean, DOJ is probably going to pick it up. They've been all going after Trump for seven

00:38:27.320 years now. But whatever. These aren't serious people. They don't have principles. So there's no

00:38:35.820 use getting riled up about that. What I think the GOP should do is use these kinds of operations

00:38:42.920 against the Democrats. I think I would humbly propose, especially as the GOP is about to take

00:38:47.880 control of the House of Representatives. Saw some of my Republican congressman friends yesterday at

00:38:52.140 TPUSA. I would recommend, as the GOP is thinking about investigating Hunter Biden. Okay, that's fine.

00:38:59.640 Or the GOP is talking about investigating Dr. Fauci. Yeah, I think that's good. I think we should

00:39:02.980 investigate Dr. Fauci. I think the GOP should investigate and potentially prosecute Democrat

00:39:11.560 politicians for incitement against the GOP, for even potentially insurrection. I think they should

00:39:20.360 do exactly to the Democrats what the Democrats are trying to do to Republicans. The Republicans have far

00:39:27.400 better grounds to do it to the Democrats. Democrats like Maxine Waters have incited violence, have 1.00

00:39:33.640 explicitly called for violence, pushing back on people in public, going to Republican politicians'

00:39:39.640 homes against the GOP, against the conservatives. Chuck Schumer said, we're coming for you, Neil

00:39:45.580 Gorsuch. We're coming for you, Brett Kavanaugh. And then what happened? A liberal takes a bus from

00:39:48.600 California to Washington, D.C. and tries to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh. Drag Chuck Schumer before that 0.60

00:39:53.920 committee. Drag Maxine Waters before that committee. Drag all these Democrats. Drag Kamala Harris, who 1.00

00:39:59.540 bailed out the rioters during BLM. Drag the Biden administration staffers who bailed out the rioters,

00:40:04.480 the violent people during BLM, who encouraged the BLM rights. Drag them, accuse them of incitement to 0.64

00:40:10.400 violence, accuse them of insurrection, accuse them of all the same stuff that they're accusing us of.

00:40:15.760 Make, look, I think there's a much stronger case that we have to make against the Democrats on these

00:40:20.740 grounds. But even if not, even if it's all just a big joke, then make a bigger mockery of this

00:40:25.440 than the Democrats did. Just shove it in their face. Or what are we going to do? We're going to

00:40:29.860 roll over. We're going to investigate Hunter Biden. We're going to find all sorts of perverted things

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00:42:23.060 What matters in politics is winning. We want to win in a just, moral, legal way. But assuming all of

00:42:35.720 those things, we have to win. We don't want to lose. We don't want to lose with dignity,

00:42:43.140 as some of the squishes often want us to do. There isn't usually very much dignity in losing

00:42:50.220 with dignity. You see this principle articulated by Donald Trump. And we now know this because

00:42:56.760 Hope Hicks was giving testimony to the January 6th commission. And Hope Hicks explained her 0.78

00:43:05.880 disagreements with and the advice that she gave to and the response she heard from President Trump

00:43:11.100 after the election. The select committee has obtained testimony from new witnesses who've come

00:43:18.180 forward to tell us about their conversations with ex-President Trump on this topic. Here is one of his

00:43:25.020 senior advisors. Hope Hicks. Seeing evidence of fraud on a scale that would have impacted the outcome of

00:43:38.240 the election. And I was becoming increasingly concerned that we were damaging, we were damaging

00:43:48.100 his legacy. What did the president say in response to what you just described? He said something along

00:43:55.340 the lines of, you know, nobody will care about my legacy if I lose. So that won't matter. The only thing

00:44:09.520 that matters is winning. Putting any particulars aside about Trump's behavior after the 2020 election,

00:44:20.500 I know some people think he fought like hell and that was a great thing. And some people say, no,

00:44:24.360 he didn't present proper evidence of fraud. And so what he did was irresponsible and it hurt his chances

00:44:29.620 of running again. Okay, whatever. That's not what I'm talking about right now. We can have those

00:44:33.580 disagreements. The principle that Trump is articulating here, according to Hope Hicks,

00:44:39.940 who is a very trusted advisor of his, is correct. What matters in politics, assuming we're all operating

00:44:47.960 within the bounds of justice and legality and morality, what matters is winning. This is a principle

00:44:53.700 that was articulated best, I think, by Cocaine Mitch, who, love him or hate him, the man knows a lot

00:45:00.700 about winning. The man is very, very good at wielding political power. And Cocaine Mitch said,

00:45:07.800 in response to one of his opponents, you got Pablo Escobar Mitch over here versus the DEA of his

00:45:15.160 opponents. And he said, the winners go to Washington and make laws and the losers go home. Say hello

00:45:26.100 to my little friend. And that's what he said. And the last part, I assume that's what he was

00:45:34.780 thinking. He's right about that. The winners make laws, the losers go home. Nobody is going to give

00:45:43.600 Trump a pat on the head and say, well, he, look, we called him Hitler for four years, well, like five or

00:45:48.740 six years, actually. And we fought him every step of the way and we impeached him twice. We just hate

00:45:53.300 him so much. But he, he had a great legacy. One-termers don't get great legacies. Even if

00:46:00.380 the liberal media pretend to like them a little bit as a way to attack whoever the presently dangerous

00:46:05.360 Republican is, in the long run, one-termers don't really get great legacies. Okay, what matters is

00:46:11.420 winning and doing and succeeding. Trump was totally right. Did it matter in the end? I don't know.

00:46:18.420 It remains to be seen because he's running again in 2024. Now, speaking of Trump's chances at winning

00:46:22.760 in 2024, new poll out from USA Today and Suffolk U showing that Ron DeSantis, Trump's chief GOP rival

00:46:31.740 right now, is currently leading Joe Biden in a nationwide head-to-head poll. DeSantis leads with

00:46:39.140 47% support, followed by Biden with 43% support. According to the poll, 65% of Republicans and GOP-leaning

00:46:46.200 voters want DeSantis to run for president. Trump does not perform as well against Biden in this

00:46:52.080 particular survey. Biden is leading Trump by seven points, 47 to 40. And the survey shows Republicans

00:46:59.540 prefer DeSantis over Trump by 23%. This is good news for DeSantis. This is bad news for Trump.

00:47:07.900 But it doesn't quite tell you what it seems to be telling you because the assumptions in the poll

00:47:14.940 are unrealistic. We're talking about here a nationwide head-to-head poll, but the election

00:47:23.960 does not take place nationwide. The election takes place in a handful of states, in a handful of counties.

00:47:30.340 And what really separates the election is not millions of votes or dozens or even 100 electoral votes,

00:47:37.780 though those numbers might look that way in the end. What actually determines the winner is usually,

00:47:43.780 and especially in recent years, 20,000 votes in this state, 40,000 votes in this state, 30,000 votes.

00:47:50.080 I mean, it could be 60,000, 70,000 votes to determine the entire election. So it doesn't really matter

00:47:54.440 how many people in California or New York like one candidate over the other. They're popular states,

00:47:59.380 but it doesn't really matter. What matters is what people in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan,

00:48:05.800 Wisconsin, Arizona, what matters is who they vote for. And what matters is who counts the votes,

00:48:12.840 especially if we're talking about Maricopa County in Arizona, we're talking about Philadelphia,

00:48:16.020 or we're talking about Atlanta in Georgia. That's what's going to determine it, okay? And so

00:48:21.960 this is all great news for DeSantis. DeSantis' world should be celebrating over this. Trump should

00:48:26.700 be genuinely scared about it. But it doesn't totally mean, also, we don't know if Biden will

00:48:32.800 be the Democrat nominee. He says he's going to be, but Democrats don't seem all that eager for it.

00:48:38.940 He'll be 80 years old. Does anybody really believe? Or maybe, I think he might already be 80. I think

00:48:44.600 he was 78 when he took office. So he'll be 82 for his second term. That seems pretty old to be doing

00:48:51.520 that job. And we don't know what the GOP primary process looks like. Trump has had everything thrown

00:48:58.600 at him. Ron DeSantis has had a lot thrown at him too, but still not at the national level. And then

00:49:02.560 there are other candidates who could emerge as well. Going to be quite a fight. Speaking of voting,

00:49:09.240 before we go, really great story out of Twitter. I haven't covered Twitter. Every day there's new

00:49:15.140 Twitter news, but at a certain point you think, okay, all right, Twitter, they'll sort it out.

00:49:18.380 It's a social media site. We all spend too much time on it anyway.

00:49:22.800 Elon Musk has just announced that in the future, as he makes policy by Twitter poll,

00:49:29.580 by popular vote, as Elon Musk has been doing recently, he is going to limit the people who

00:49:35.880 can vote to people who actually subscribe to Twitter Blue. That's the paid service on Twitter.

00:49:41.820 You pay a few bucks a month, maybe it's eight bucks a month now, and you will get certain perks,

00:49:47.240 and then you'll get to vote and have a stake in this. This is a great move. Well, it's a great

00:49:52.440 move for Twitter, but it's also something that we can learn from. It's a civics lesson for all of us.

00:49:59.440 The people who vote and who determine how our government, our politics is going to work

00:50:05.080 should be people who have some stake in the society. This is really basic stuff. The founding

00:50:12.480 fathers, the framers, the constitution all wrote about this. We've lost this idea in recent years

00:50:16.080 as we've made an idol out of democracy, as we've made an idol out of the popular vote.

00:50:21.340 There's a good role for democracy. There certainly can be in politics. There can be a role for popular

00:50:27.320 voting, for representational democracy, aspects of direct democracy. There can be roles for all

00:50:31.780 this stuff, but it's not the be all and end all, okay? It's not an idol that we should make.

00:50:35.380 And if you open up the vote to everybody, if you let five-year-olds vote, that's probably not 0.98

00:50:38.620 going to be very conducive to the flourishing of your republic. So there are always going to be

00:50:43.480 limits here. And one of the limits that the great men who built our country talked about,

00:50:48.200 that Elon is recognizing here, is the people who determine how the government should be run

00:50:52.680 ought to be people who have a real stake in things, who've got real skin in the game.

00:50:59.220 Amazing that we're taking political lessons from Twitter now, but it's because Twitter's new

00:51:02.960 management is a lot smarter than the old management and maybe the management of our current government.

00:51:08.140 Now, other really great news. People might be asking why I'm wearing this Puka shell necklace.

00:51:14.880 This is because I'm a man of my word. I don't welch on bets. And we took a bet before the midterms

00:51:21.000 about different shenanigans in the bet. I didn't completely lose, but I didn't totally win. And so

00:51:27.300 as part of that, I had to wear a Puka shell necklace. And I kind of like it, actually. I think it

00:51:30.680 compliments me very, very well. Certain other hosts at the Daily Wire are known to welch on their bets.

00:51:37.820 And some of their names actually sound a lot like that word. And some of their first names are

00:51:43.020 Matthew. And some of them sometimes, when they lose football games, don't want to fulfill their

00:51:47.860 obligations and call me Sweet Daddy Knowles. But I have to give Matt credit where credit is due.

00:51:54.120 On the backstage show, he did give me this as my Secret Santa. It is viewer discretion advised,

00:51:59.300 very disturbing. It's a picture of Sweet Daddy Knowles with my little sort of very luscious

00:52:07.480 Sicilian lips on this image. Nice coiffed hair there. And it says Sweet Daddy Knowles on there.

00:52:12.480 This is not available in the merch shop. I believe this is the only t-shirt of this kind that exists.

00:52:18.680 And I'm glad that it exists. At least Walsh went halfway toward fulfilling his obligations

00:52:25.260 and recognizing that I am a Sweet, Sweet Daddy. The rest of the show continues now.

00:52:30.560 Today is not Music Monday, but we're making it Music Monday because, you know, I'm a pop maven.

00:52:35.060 I was on the road yesterday. It was a little tricky to do the member block. So Ben Davies says that I am

00:52:41.920 now going to complete the pop music trifecta. We have done T-Swift. We have done the Biebs.

00:52:50.240 Now we are moving on to Ed Sheeran. If you're not a member, click the link in the description and join us.

00:53:11.920 So Ben Davies says,

The Michael Knowles Show - December 20, 2022

Ep. 1149 - Lib Social Worker Secretly Trans-es 13-Year-Old Girl

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