The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 115 - South Africa Destroys Itself ft. Lauren Southern

00:00:00.000 The South African parliament voted last week to steal white farmers' land on the basis of race 0.96

00:00:05.060 and redistribute it to black South Africans. The motion was brought by the radical left

00:00:09.780 Economic Freedom Fighters Party, whose leader Julius Malema has called for South Africans to 0.92

00:00:15.140 quote, cut the throat of whiteness. The land theft was supported by the late Nelson Mandela's own 0.96

00:00:21.320 African National Congress Party, though presumably it wouldn't have been by Nelson Mandela himself,

00:00:25.700 leaving international onlookers to wonder if South Africa has just destroyed itself.

00:00:31.160 We will discuss with Lauren Southern, who has spoken to these very South African farmers

00:00:35.520 in her new documentary, Farmlands. Then, speaking of colonial revolts,

00:00:40.360 the Boston Massacre on this day in history. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:35.620 A lot of craziness is going on in South Africa. Oh, you haven't heard of it? You haven't heard

00:04:39.680 of what's going on? I'm not that surprised. It's probably because the media don't cover

00:04:42.720 this stuff at all because they'd much rather cover Donald Trump's tabloid thing from the 90s.

00:04:48.300 The South African parliament voted last week to steal all of the white farmers' land. And guess how

00:04:54.160 the economy reacted to that? Did not react very well. Banks are shocked by the move. It's going

00:04:59.180 to cause serious panic. The agricultural industry obviously is faltering. International investors

00:05:05.000 are now terrified of what will happen. It's deja vu all over again on that continent. We have seen

00:05:10.560 this happen before. We've saw it happen in Zimbabwe not that long ago. In 2000, for some historical

00:05:17.180 perspective, the Zimbabwean government proposed giving itself the constitutional power to steal land

00:05:22.620 from white farmers without compensation. When that move failed, the pro-Mugabe Zimbabwe

00:05:27.900 National Liberation War Veterans Association marched on white-owned farmland. By 2002, this

00:05:34.440 roving gang had killed the white farm owners on at least seven occasions, according to Human

00:05:39.260 Rights Watch. And surprise, surprise, millions of black farmers were excluded from the redistribution.

00:05:45.260 It's almost like when you start subverting the law and having strong men go in and steal

00:05:49.940 people's property. The poor people won't benefit from that. People that it's ostensibly intended 1.00

00:05:55.220 to help will not benefit. It hurt the people that this was intended to help dramatically more on

00:06:00.980 that later. The dictator of Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe, had given himself 15 farms by the end of all of

00:06:07.800 this. Mugabe's deputy, number two, Simon Muzenda, gave himself 13 farms. Cabinet ministers held 160

00:06:14.720 farms. Parliamentarians held 150 farms. And the 2,500 war veterans who had marched on all these

00:06:20.800 farms, do you know how many farms they received? They received two farms. 150, 160, two. 4,500 landless

00:06:29.820 peasant Africans, black Africans, received just three farms. The whole process displaced 200,000 black 1.00

00:06:36.280 farm workers, left them homeless and without any means of supporting themselves. Farm production,

00:06:40.840 you'll be shocked to hear, fell massively. It fell by over two-thirds in just five years. These once

00:06:46.780 bustling farms. Zimbabwe was called the breadbasket of southern Africa. Bustling farms ended up with a 0.99

00:06:53.100 starving population. Tobacco, Zimbabwe's main agricultural export collapsed. As a result,

00:06:58.840 Zimbabwe's government was put on a credit freeze, which led to a major trade deficit. The economy

00:07:03.640 collapsed. Hyperinflation took hold. You might remember this from a few years ago. It rendered Zimbabwean

00:07:09.040 banknotes worthless. You could get bills for like a trillion dollars or something. I think you can

00:07:12.900 still find them on eBay. People would, Zimbabweans would put the bills in their hair or on their hats 1.00

00:07:18.160 or something. It just didn't mean anything. They'd burn them. Hyperinflation hit 79.6 billion percent,

00:07:24.480 billion with a B, by November of 2008. And by 2015, Zimbabwe totally switched to the U.S. dollar as its

00:07:30.800 currency because its own currency wasn't worth the paper it was printed on. Last November, Zimbabwe

00:07:35.900 finally learned its lesson and sacked Robert Mugabe. It took them a while, but they did it.

00:07:41.180 Now, just as Zimbabwe learns its lesson, South Africa wants to copy that devastated country. 0.77

00:07:46.540 In 2017, just last year, Julius Malema, the head of this party in South Africa, the leader behind

00:07:52.760 this land grab, he said, we love Uncle Bob Mugabe. To help us make sense of all of this madness,

00:07:59.620 of what has happened to Nelson Mandela's country of reconciliation and prosperity and the light of

00:08:05.180 hope in Africa, to make sense of what happened from that country to this present madness, we bring 1.00

00:08:09.480 on Lauren Southern, who has a new documentary she's just made about what's going on with the

00:08:13.900 farmlands of South Africa. Here's just a clip from her footage.

00:08:17.240 I'm seeing special farmers. You don't get used to it. The torture that we find have been done on these

00:08:25.700 farmers are unbelievable. We found pieces of nails being pulled out. We found hands being removed from

00:08:34.140 bodies. We found people raped, brutally murdered, babies, children, the farmers trying to protect

00:08:43.260 their families, and there's just no stopping. The farm murders are brutal.

00:08:51.100 Lynn and I went to this farm murder scene in the Northwest and we came upon this beautiful white house,

00:09:01.100 and everywhere you looked was blood splatter. Since from where you walked in there was blood against

00:09:08.540 the curtains, the walls, the paintings, the floor, and you could see where two babies were murdered in

00:09:16.860 the bathroom. So they were definitely attacked while giving the babies a bath. One of them actually

00:09:23.980 survived and crawled all the way from the bathroom. It was about two years old. Crawled all the way from

00:09:30.460 the bathroom to the main bedroom where the mom was murdered.

00:09:35.500 That is some pretty haunting footage. And I think maybe for people in my generation, people who don't

00:09:41.980 remember Nelson Mandela, they don't realize how shocking this is. Nelson Mandela famously, the head of the

00:09:48.700 African National Congress, which now has apparently supported this land grab, he was jailed for

00:09:55.340 decades for opposing apartheid. He was this martyr figure of apartheid. He was criticized by people on

00:10:01.180 the right for being a communist terrorist, as people on the right called him. And he was criticized from the

00:10:06.380 left for being too conciliatory, for wanting too much reconciliation in his quest to unite South Africa. But he

00:10:14.620 did during his lifetime, unite South Africa, was really considered to be the hope of that continent,

00:10:19.820 and a real path forward out of colonization. And that's over now. That is clearly over now. His own

00:10:27.100 party has turned on that spirit of reconciliation. And you don't see these reported in the news very

00:10:32.620 much. You don't hear about the murders on these South African farms. You don't hear about this land grab 0.99

00:10:37.420 yet. I wonder why that is. That is a little strange. We will get Lauren on to talk about this. But before we do

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00:14:17.820 Do I have Lauren on now? All right. Lauren, thank you for being here. Hi there. Thanks for having me.

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00:14:26.220 The promo code covefe, C-O-V-F-E-F-E. Now, Lauren, I have to say, you know, sometimes the audience gives

00:14:32.460 me flack because they accuse me of flirting with my female guests or hitting on my female guests,

00:14:37.180 but you, this shouldn't be as big of an issue because you are officially a man. Is that right?

00:14:43.500 You have officially changed your gender to a man. Yes. I legally changed my gender in Canada. So if 0.71

00:14:49.740 you want to win over some of the progressive audience, you can throw a few lines my way.

00:14:53.420 Hubba hubba, be still my beating heart. Well, that's very, that is very progressive and a really

00:14:58.140 excellent story. If you haven't looked into Lauren changing her gender, you should look it up on the

00:15:02.780 internet. It's very funny. Uh, Lauren, we just watched a clip from some of your footage in South

00:15:07.500 Africa. What is going on in that country? Where do you even begin? I went to South Africa in January

00:15:13.580 just to investigate kind of whispers. I heard about farm murders going on. There were supposedly

00:15:19.420 discriminatory farm murders against the Afrikaner minority that were just brutal stuff. 0.97

00:15:25.660 The Afrikaners are the white people. I ended up, yes, yes. They're the, uh, 1.00

00:15:31.580 eight percent white population in South Africa. But I ended up going down this rabbit hole and

00:15:36.140 discovering a myriad of government, just absolutely biased laws against the Afrikaner people. I discovered

00:15:44.220 white squatter camps, which are basically de facto refugee camps for white people in the country.

00:15:49.740 I discovered about laws called black economic empowerment, which are basically reverse

00:15:55.260 affirmative action. So imagine if you could only hire, uh, 13 percent blacks in a certain career 0.76

00:16:02.460 in America because it has to be representative of the population. I think the, uh, sports would get

00:16:08.060 very boring in America. But in South Africa, this has caused a lot of problems. A ton of white South 1.00

00:16:14.860 Africans have been fired from their jobs to meet these quotas. It's caused for an absolute gutting.

00:16:19.660 of the energy sector. In fact, people have probably heard Cape Town is about to run out of water

00:16:24.300 because of this. The white South Africans are not just being murdered, but there's just been an 0.86

00:16:29.340 announcement that the government plans to take their land without compensation. So things are just

00:16:35.580 collapsing in on themselves. There's so many issues to talk about. You're going to have to pick one.

00:16:39.420 Well, what, what has happened to the spirit of Nelson Mandela? You know, the, the right frequently

00:16:44.940 pilloried Mandela for being a communist terrorist. And I think it's a little bit like the

00:16:49.580 Mike Bloomberg effect. When Bloomberg was my mayor in New York, I would criticize him relentlessly

00:16:54.220 because he wouldn't let me smoke cigars in the parks. But now looking back, now that we have

00:16:58.140 de Blasio, I think like, man, those were the good old days. I didn't know. We don't know what we got

00:17:02.380 till it's gone. Uh, you know, Mandela did exude this apparent spirit of reconciliation. He was pilloried

00:17:09.100 by both sides, the left and the right in South Africa, jailed for decades for opposing apartheid.

00:17:14.700 What happened to that now that that guy is gone? What happened to his own party? And what happened

00:17:18.700 to his country? So the ANC is still in power in South Africa. But of course, the reason we don't

00:17:25.660 hear much about South Africa in the news anymore is because what South Africa was supposed to exemplify

00:17:31.260 was the progressive communist rainbow nation. And the left loved it. And they still tout this day,

00:17:38.300 the rainbow nation is the most beautiful thing to ever have existed. But the reason we don't hear

00:17:43.020 about it anymore is because the rainbow nation has failed. That is just a fact. The ANC has turned into

00:17:48.780 a party that is not for equality, but has become quite openly anti white. If their policies don't

00:17:55.340 speak for themselves, you can go and watch some of the videos of even the other parties in parliament,

00:18:00.620 the EFF, who have about 10% of control of the government saying, 0.99

00:18:05.100 we should kill and shoot the boar, literally dancing on their stage and saying, kill, 1.00

00:18:09.180 shoot the white South Africans. This is the government of South Africa right now. It is not 1.00

00:18:14.060 this progressive rainbow nation. And the Marxism hasn't done them much good either. You can see

00:18:19.420 the Rand since the ANC has brought in a lot of their Marxist policies, it has collapsed in value

00:18:25.180 since the nineties. So you're not going to hear much from the left about this. So it's really good to see,

00:18:31.020 although I think a little late as we've just started talking about South Africa, when

00:18:35.500 the land crisis is now being enacted by parliament, it's good to start seeing it in the conservative

00:18:40.860 media, because this is going to ramp up into something far more serious in the coming years.

00:18:44.940 Well, I wonder because the head of the EFF has said that he wants to cut the throat of whiteness

00:18:50.700 in South Africa. He says he loves uncle Bob Mugabe, but there were 80 some odd, I think 83 South African

00:18:57.660 parliamentarians who voted against the land expropriation. Isn't that right? And now many

00:19:02.940 more parliamentarians voted for it. Is there any hope that this doesn't happen, that the minority

00:19:08.780 of parliamentarians are able to bring some stability and sanity back to the country?

00:19:14.060 Right. Of course, it's good to make a nod to those sane people who I'm sure are just

00:19:18.940 hitting their face on their desk right now, looking at things like Zimbabwe, which if people don't know

00:19:23.660 what happened in Zimbabwe, they kicked out all the white farmers and it ended up causing a huge

00:19:28.700 crisis there with food issues, people starving, their economy collapsed. And of course that will

00:19:35.100 become a problem in South Africa as well. The farmers there are desperately trying to train

00:19:40.060 their workers to take over their jobs and take over the farms, but you just can't fill that many spaces

00:19:45.100 so quickly. So I think there are at least some people within the media and within the government that

00:19:51.020 realize that confiscating white land is not just going to be a problem for white people. It's going 0.67

00:19:56.860 to be a problem for all South Africans, black, white, mixed alike. It's going to cause starvation.

00:20:03.020 It's going to hurt the futures of young people in the country. And if enough people can start talking

00:20:08.780 about that, showing what happened in Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe who are now inviting back the white farmers 0.95

00:20:13.340 because they need help. Hopefully there can be some change, but people have to start talking about it.

00:20:19.740 We can't wait until it actually happens because the mainstream media I found waited until

00:20:25.900 the land crisis was actually seen in parliament and passed. They waited for that last kind of moment.

00:20:32.860 If we wait again until more drastic policies and laws happen, then things might be far too late.

00:20:39.340 It's amazing. Even now, even now that the South African parliament has voted to take away all the

00:20:45.420 white farmland. When you look in Google news or you look in a lot of mainstream outlets,

00:20:50.140 it won't come up. If you Google South Africa, you'll see sporting events and frivolous things

00:20:54.780 like that. I wonder, you bring up Zimbabwe. Obviously, black Zimbabweans did terribly under

00:21:01.260 that expropriation regime. Mugabe and his cronies enriched himself dramatically. And the people who

00:21:07.740 really paid the price were the millions of black peasants, basically, who couldn't work and couldn't 1.00

00:21:13.260 feed themselves and couldn't support themselves. There was a good op-ed out today about how land

00:21:18.460 expropriation in South Africa is the same thing. It is primarily an attack on not just white farm 0.94

00:21:24.060 owners, but black South Africans who are going to be devastated when the starvation hits. Is there any

00:21:30.860 voice in South Africa or in the international media who are pointing this out that it seems like it's an

00:21:38.540 attack on white people? It seems like it's an attack on the original sin of that country as the 0.99

00:21:43.980 activists describe it. But really, the people who are going to be hurt, as is so often the case,

00:21:48.860 are the people it purports to help. Well, this is the upsetting thing is the media,

00:21:54.540 and certainly within the mainstream, it rarely speaks the minds of the people. It speaks its own agenda and

00:22:00.300 what it wants the people to think. And I remember sitting down when I was in South Africa with a woman from

00:22:05.500 Zimbabwe. She was a very sweet lady. And she was telling me quite emotionally that she didn't know

00:22:11.900 what she was going to do after South Africa kicked out the white people, because she had come to South 0.90

00:22:17.500 Africa because of what happened in Zimbabwe. She came there to make money to send back to her family 1.00

00:22:23.500 in Zimbabwe. And she said, I don't know where there is to go next in Africa if they do the same thing

00:22:28.300 here. South Africa was her safe zone after the kicking out of whites. So it's a, yeah, you're 1.00

00:22:37.260 absolutely correct in that the victim are people of all skin colors. The victim of this is the whole 1.00

00:22:43.420 nation in general. Because the conservative argument is always that a rising tide lifts all ships. And we

00:22:48.940 can see that not just in the U.S., but around the world. Capitalism lifted 600 million people out of poverty

00:22:54.300 in China in something like a decade or two decades. But of course, the opposite is also true. A sinkhole 0.97

00:23:01.100 is going to sink everybody. It isn't just going to sink one group of the kind. It's going to destroy 0.97

00:23:04.700 the country. And yet there's basically no reporting on the panic of international investors, the panic of

00:23:10.060 the South African banks. Tell us a little bit more about your movie. What's next for that? What made you

00:23:16.700 decide to do the project? And where and when can we see it?

00:23:20.620 Right. So Farmlands hopefully will be out within the next month. I'm hesitant to give people a

00:23:25.980 specific date because there's so much preparation that has to go into it. The films always take about

00:23:30.940 six months longer than anybody says they will and an extra $200,000 or something, right?

00:23:35.260 Precisely. But luckily on my channel, if you just look up on YouTube, Lauren Southern, you can find a ton of

00:23:42.700 little mini series you watched a bit at the beginning interviewing farmers themselves, interviewing politicians,

00:23:49.180 interviewing individuals who have been struck by the drought, by murder, by all these different

00:23:54.300 crises, just to actually bring it to you and to see. We hear a lot of statistics. And of course,

00:23:59.660 there's that famous Joseph Stalin quote that is just horrific where he says,

00:24:04.700 one person's death is a tragedy. A million is simply a statistic. And for a lot of people,

00:24:09.820 all they've seen is the statistics of farm murders. All they've seen is the numbers that

00:24:14.380 this is happening at a horrific rate. But they haven't actually gotten to meet the people and

00:24:19.100 realize these are humans just like me and you that are suffering through this crisis right now.

00:24:23.180 And that's kind of what I hope to do with Farmlands. I hope to humanize the Afrikaner

00:24:28.940 people and show that they're not just these statistics. They're not these colonizer monsters,

00:24:33.020 as some people like to portray them. They just happened to be born on this land after their family had been there

00:24:38.540 hundreds of years, but also to record what is going on in South Africa, because Lord knows,

00:24:45.100 if things get worse there, the media is not going to tell the truth. And I want there to be at least

00:24:50.940 some record of what happened in South Africa so we can learn from kind of the mistakes, which hopefully

00:24:57.180 we can fix things. But if not, I want the truth to be out there. You would think we would have learned

00:25:01.740 from Zimbabwe. But if South Africa destroys itself, as it looks like it is doing, then at least there will be 0.99

00:25:07.660 a record and maybe we'll be able to stop the next country. Absolutely. Lauren, thank you. That was

00:25:11.980 that was not only very educational, but you've really helped me out. You've bumped up my progressive

00:25:16.860 credentials by being such an articulate, official government recognized man on the program. I really

00:25:23.900 appreciate it. Lauren Southern, everybody, go check out her YouTube channel and check out the movie

00:25:27.820 whenever it comes out. Talk to you soon. Thanks for having me. All right. We've got to get to this day

00:25:33.660 in history. Do we have to sign off first? Are you going to make me sign off before we do this day in

00:25:37.580 history? Oh, that's so awful. This is a good this day in history. Speaking of colonial revolts, this is an 1.00

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00:27:07.820 It is time for this day in history. In 1770, the American revolution began five years before the

00:27:14.460 shot heard round the world. Now, a lot of people don't know that. The event was the Boston massacre.

00:27:20.360 This was five years before Lexington and Concord Bridge. One cold night in Boston,

00:27:26.920 angry colonists met at the customs house in Boston, and they started tossing snowballs at the one lonely

00:27:32.800 British soldier guarding that building. Now, I know what you're thinking. You're, we know this is the

00:27:38.320 Boston massacre where the British shoot the American colonists and it's just so awful. It's totally

00:27:42.640 unprovoked. And the British shot everybody down. Colonists were not just throwing snowballs. This was not

00:27:46.780 just a snowball fight in some elementary school that you have with your sister or something.

00:27:50.860 Tension had been building for two years. At this event, they were throwing rocks. They were

00:27:55.780 really trying to hurt this guy and hurt the British. Tension had built since the British troops were sent

00:28:02.000 in 1768 to enforce unpopular parliamentary taxation. Even that isn't as simple as it sounds.

00:28:09.580 We hear no taxation without representation. That isn't the whole story. The British crown expected the

00:28:14.060 colonies to help pay for the French and Indian war. That was their war. It was fought in America.

00:28:19.040 And so the British expect, the imperial overlords expected the colonies to help pay for that.

00:28:24.640 Americans at this time were not some horribly oppressed people. They had the highest average

00:28:29.160 disposable income in the world. Per capita annual incomes were $2,100 to $3,500, nearly the same as the

00:28:37.180 British across the pond. The British had a slightly higher per capita annual income. But when you take

00:28:42.820 into account the lower tax rates, American colonists paid a much lower tax rate, the colonists were

00:28:47.400 living very large. On top of that, the American colonists had more land. They had greater availability

00:28:52.020 of food and wood, both of which were much cheaper in America than in Britain. Also in America,

00:28:57.840 population density was low. America had higher birth rates and it had lower death rates. And so in

00:29:02.860 America, unlike in Britain, you had a 3% population growth per year. This is an exploding country.

00:29:08.640 Americans also were taller, thanks to better nutrition and health care, than their British 0.99

00:29:13.900 counterparts. The average height of an American colonial soldier was 5'8", which is 2 inches

00:29:19.580 taller than their British counterparts. You can picture that in the battles. You know, the Americans 0.66

00:29:23.620 are just bigger, brawnier guys than the British in the redcoats that they were fighting. Nevertheless, 0.90

00:29:29.040 colonists were rightly angered by what they saw as the wrongful British occupation of their city.

00:29:33.780 So already, we're seeing a breaking away of the American identity from that of Britain. They viewed

00:29:40.140 the British troops who were there as occupiers of their city. Paul Revere never said the British are

00:29:45.620 coming, the British are coming, because that would have been nonsense. Everybody was British. Everybody 1.00

00:29:50.280 considered himself British, except that the identities were diverging just a little bit. The Americans

00:29:57.520 had been here for 400 years. The Pilgrims landed in 1620. They have been here for 400 years. They'd

00:30:06.480 already been there for over a century, exploring this country, forming a new culture, forming a new

00:30:12.600 country. They were separatists, the Pilgrims who left. They did choose to leave Britain. And these new 1.00

00:30:18.160 cultures were forming. So the Friday before the massacre, British soldiers were looking for part-time

00:30:24.280 work. And they brawled with Boston laborers at John Hancock's wharf. This was three days before

00:30:30.760 the Boston massacre. Tension was already brewing. They were fighting each other. This brawl grew to

00:30:34.920 include 40 soldiers, which actually forced their colonel, William Dalrymple, to confine them to their

00:30:40.560 barracks. This was pretty violent, and so much so that an order had to come down from the Brits. 1.00

00:30:46.260 Everybody knew that tensions were going to flare up again on Monday. This didn't come out of nowhere.

00:30:50.960 It had been building for two years, but especially it had been building over the weekend.

00:30:54.720 They basically respected the Sabbath. Then the weekend was over. They said, bring it on. 0.94

00:31:00.100 The Customers House Sentinel called for backup, and the Customs House Sentinel rather called for

00:31:07.000 backup, and they brought a British corporal and seven soldiers to his aid. Now, two of those people

00:31:12.320 that came to his aid had previously brawled on that Friday. Captain Thomas Preston told the Redcoats to

00:31:17.620 fix their bayonets. Rocks getting thrown, snowballs being thrown. The British there fixed their bayonets. 0.97

00:31:22.320 The colonists are jeering them. They're saying, fire on us. We dare you. There's no way you're

00:31:26.620 going to fire on your colonists. Ain't going to happen in Boston. Until Private Hugh Montgomery

00:31:32.560 slipped. Private Hugh Montgomery slipped. He fell. He accidentally discharged his rifle. He didn't fire

00:31:39.960 it at the Americans. He just fired. Just went off. This led all of the other British to fire. They fired on

00:31:46.260 the colonists. When smoke cleared, five colonists were dead or dying. Those men were Crispus Attucks,

00:31:51.420 Patrick Carr, Samuel Gray, Samuel Maverick, and James Caldwell. A lot of people now believe that

00:31:57.740 the first person to fall on the Boston Massacre was Crispus Attucks, who was a sailor of African

00:32:02.840 and Indian ancestry. Say a black American was the first guy to fall in what was the early stage of

00:32:09.240 the Revolutionary War. That's how the story evolved. There's actually no evidence that he was the first to go

00:32:14.040 down. He was certainly one of the first five, though. That goes without saying. These were the

00:32:18.080 first deaths, and they're considered the first deaths, of the American Revolution. So what happened

00:32:23.040 after that? British soldiers were put on trial in the colonial system. Who defended them? John Adams

00:32:27.980 and Josiah Quincy Jr. defended them. John Adams, you might remember, was the second president of the

00:32:32.500 United States. Nevertheless, he defended them. Josiah Quincy Jr. was actually the spokesman for the

00:32:38.220 Sons of Liberty in Boston, the radical group, the radical independence group. They both defended them

00:32:43.140 because they defended the colonial system of government, and they defended the rule of law.

00:32:47.160 Edmund Burke, in Reflections on the Revolution in France, juxtaposes the American Revolution and the

00:32:51.920 French Revolution. The French Revolution went crazy, and it was a leftist revolution. But the

00:32:57.160 American Revolution was a conservative revolution, and we see the seeds of that even here. So two of

00:33:02.300 the six soldiers who were tried were found guilty of manslaughter. Their punishment was being branded on

00:33:07.680 the thumb and then released. It's not a tough punishment, getting branded on the thumb, I guess. But that was the

00:33:13.060 only punishment. This was the first shot of the American Revolution. We hear about the shot heard around the

00:33:17.500 world at Lexington and Concord. Really, this was the first one, and it happened six years before the

00:33:22.240 Declaration of Independence and five years before those early battles. Nothing about this event is clear, as I hope

00:33:28.120 I've explained, except for the need for American independence. The guilt isn't really clear who

00:33:33.240 started it. It isn't totally clear who was in the right to occupy or levy the tax or to pay the tax.

00:33:37.940 Not totally clear, but the need for American independence was. Colonists were rightly angry

00:33:44.200 that their self-governing city was being occupied. They were basically self-governing and had been for a

00:33:49.420 long time. They were angry at being taxed without representation. They were angry that British soldiers were

00:33:54.480 competing in the labor market. And the crown expected colonists to foot some of the bill for their own

00:33:58.980 war. And the crown saw that Americans were living large on British protection. And the British soldiers

00:34:03.460 were being pelted with rocks just for standing guard and doing their job. American independence was

00:34:08.820 coming. These seeds were sown into the founding of the country. There was this separate entity, this

00:34:16.480 American character that was being built. We see it very early on. And here we're seeing it flourish.

00:34:21.120 We don't, it's much easier to say those were bad people and these were good people and these were

00:34:27.540 oppressing them and these were not oppressing them. The reality of it is different. Historical context

00:34:31.680 is different. It actually gives one some reason to maybe have some empathy for King George III,

00:34:37.840 who the American Revolution began before he read the Declaration of Independence or something like

00:34:42.200 that. And when George Washington ceded his military commission, George III called him the greatest

00:34:47.880 man in the history of the world. Now we have a special relationship with Britain and that has

00:34:53.220 built for a very long time. Even though they kept trying to invade the War of 1812, they kept trying

00:34:57.120 to give us trouble. We fought them back though. They're, you know, we're brawny Americans. We have two

00:35:00.940 inches on those guys. So that was built into the character. But looking at the historical context of

00:35:08.920 the United States, you see just in that character, independence was, it was our future. It was our

00:35:15.340 destiny. We were going to people this continent. We were going to story this continent. It was built

00:35:21.320 into the American experiment. And I think when people view it, view that moment and view our

00:35:26.100 country's character with less of an ideological take on it, with less of a rigid, narrow ideology,

00:35:32.520 and they look more into the character of what makes America, America, you see all of that flourishing

00:35:37.660 and blossoming for what it is. And hopefully we get to keep doing that. We don't just go all the way

00:35:41.620 down into our decadent slump. But if watching Jimmy Kimmel on the Oscars last night, I don't know,

00:35:45.960 maybe that tempers our hope a little bit. In any case, that is our show today. I'm Michael Knowles.

00:35:49.880 This is The Michael Knowles Show. Come back tomorrow. We'll do it all again.

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 05, 2018

Ep. 115 - South Africa Destroys Itself ft. Lauren Southern

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