The Michael Knowles Show

00:00:00.000 Speaking at a pro-abortion rally yesterday, Vice President Kamala Harris

00:00:04.640 accidentally destroyed the left's entire argument for abortion.

00:00:10.520 America is a promise. America is a promise. It is a promise of freedom and liberty.

00:00:21.700 Not for some, but for all.

00:00:30.000 A promise we made in the Declaration of Independence.

00:00:35.300 That we are each endowed with the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

00:00:45.520 Did you catch the right that she missed there? Kamala Harris seems to have caught the right

00:00:52.380 that she missed, which is why I think she stumbled. She said, you know, listen, the Declaration of

00:00:56.700 Independence says we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal

00:00:59.520 and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. Among these are

00:01:02.660 liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Excuse me, what did you just say, Kamala?

00:01:10.020 Oh, I said liberty. Now, before that, I said the pursuit of happiness. No, it was a little

00:01:17.000 bit before that one. Yeah, our creator endowed us with the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

00:01:25.660 I heard something on the cough. What was the, I think it was, right, it was the right to life.

00:01:32.840 Because you can't pursue happiness without liberty and you can't have liberty without life. In fact,

00:01:40.300 you can't have or do anything at all without life, which is why life is not merely one right among

00:01:48.080 many, but the fundamental right upon which all the others rest. A fact so obvious, a truth so clear

00:01:57.020 that even Kamala Harris had to stumble upon it. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:02.220 Welcome back to the show. My favorite comment yesterday is from Jeremy Bertram, who says,

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00:03:38.760 has just launched a heinous, incomprehensible attack on children's right to learn about weird

00:03:49.840 queer theory sex stuff in a black studies course, an ideologically left-wing activist course in high

00:04:01.420 school. Can you imagine? This course on black history, what are one of, what's one of the lessons

00:04:07.820 about? Queer theory. Now, who would say that an important part of black history is queer theory?

00:04:16.320 That is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. And so when you look to see they have stuff about

00:04:22.200 intersectionality, abolishing prisons, that's a political agenda. And so we're on, that's the wrong

00:04:29.220 side of the line for Florida standards. We believe in teaching kids facts and how to think,

00:04:35.380 but we don't believe they should have an agenda imposed on them. When you try to use black history

00:04:40.720 to shoehorn in queer theory, you are clearly trying to use that for political purposes.

00:04:49.460 Ron DeSantis is doing exactly the right thing here. This is great that he is banning this black

00:04:55.200 studies course. Frankly, even if it weren't teaching queer theory as part of it, he still should have

00:05:01.740 banned the course. Because black studies, African American studies, it's not just a regular old

00:05:07.420 history course. It's not a regular old cultural history or military history or any serious study of

00:05:15.320 history. It is a derivation of critical theory. And it is essentially just leftist radical political

00:05:24.280 activism. That's true of pretty much all of the studies departments. All of the gay studies,

00:05:31.680 women's studies, black studies, all of the studies departments that cropped up in the second half of

00:05:37.620 the 20th century. They're just radical leftism. And they're academically not rigorous at all. And

00:05:42.960 they poison people's minds and turn their brains to soup. So it's good that this is being kicked out of

00:05:47.080 the high schools. However, the argument that Ron DeSantis is making here is not totally right.

00:05:56.680 It might be politically effective. So I don't begrudge him that. But it's not totally right.

00:06:02.180 Now, one thing that's great, Ron DeSantis used to say, we don't want to teach students what to think,

00:06:07.920 only how to think. And you'll notice in that speech there, because I have tried to correct that point a

00:06:14.540 little bit before. And I think some other conservatives may have too. And you notice he

00:06:17.900 changed it a little bit. He said, we want to teach students facts and how to think. That's an

00:06:23.680 important correction. Because that's not the same as saying we want to teach them how to think, not

00:06:28.860 what to think. When you say we want to teach students facts, you're saying we do want to teach

00:06:32.880 students what to think. And by teaching students what to think about certain facts, about certain

00:06:38.620 things, then we are thereby teaching the students how to think. But the point that DeSantis made is

00:06:46.280 all of this is what education is about. Education is not about pushing a political agenda.

00:06:53.360 And in fact, DeSantis, when he posted that clip, he tweeted that as well. He said, we do not think

00:06:58.400 that education should be about pushing a political agenda. That might be an effective piece of political

00:07:04.500 rhetoric, but it isn't true. And we should all at least be aware that education is in fact about

00:07:12.000 pushing a political agenda. That is the point of public education. Public and political mean the

00:07:17.120 exact same thing. Political is another word for public. It's the stuff that we all do together,

00:07:21.700 not in our little private lives, not in the recesses of our own mind, but together.

00:07:26.540 So when DeSantis says education is about pursuing truth, not about a political agenda,

00:07:32.360 he is half right. It is about pursuing truth, but it is also about applying those truths to the

00:07:38.860 political situation. Education is about creating citizens. Education is about inculcating a civic

00:07:44.720 spirit in people. Education is about creating the next generation of Americans who are going to build

00:07:49.880 up our country and live together. Education is how we are raised. And the question of how we are

00:07:54.960 raised and how we behave and what we believe and how we view our fellow countrymen and how we view

00:07:59.480 our country, that is a deeply political question. So it is perfectly right and just to ban black studies

00:08:09.300 or whatever other critical theory derived courses that have somehow seeped their way like a gaseous

00:08:15.200 poison into high school classrooms. It is perfectly good to ban them for political reasons. They teach

00:08:20.740 things that are not true, and also they have poisonous political effects. And the only reason that the

00:08:27.940 libs want to put those courses into the high school classrooms is because they know that education is

00:08:34.000 political. The libs are right about so many things, at least in the abstract. They get a lot of things

00:08:42.740 right in the abstract. They get pretty much all those things wrong in practice when you get into the

00:08:47.180 specifics and into the substance. But in terms of the abstract and the procedure and the form,

00:08:51.320 they tend to get these things right. They recognize that there's no such thing as total free speech.

00:08:55.680 They recognize that all cultures have standards and norms. Conservatives pretended that that wasn't

00:08:59.780 the case for the last 50 years. That's how we lost our American notion of free speech. The libs know

00:09:05.180 that education is political. The conservatives pretended it's not political. That's how conservatives

00:09:10.100 lost the entire educational apparatus in America. The libs, they're very crafty. They're very clever.

00:09:17.000 They have terrible prescriptions for America and for other countries as well. But they are clever about

00:09:21.440 how politics works. And so I think DeSantis is doing a great job. I don't even begrudge him his

00:09:28.500 slightly imprecise political rhetoric here. But at the very least, we conservatives, we people who are

00:09:37.200 applauding DeSantis in this phenomenal action, we should not be deceived. He's not trying to deceive

00:09:42.860 us, but we should not deceive ourselves. Education is political. It is good that it is political.

00:09:48.100 We should pursue political ends that are conducive to truth and justice. Not that they're antithetical

00:09:55.660 to those things. They go perfectly along with truth and justice. But we should pursue those things

00:10:00.820 in the classroom. Because if we don't do it, somebody else will. And if it's the libs who are pursuing

00:10:05.820 their political agenda in the classroom, I promise you, it is not going to go along with truth and

00:10:10.620 justice, and certainly not with the American way. The libs are furious about what DeSantis is doing.

00:10:15.420 KJP, Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House Press Secretary, says the move is incomprehensible.

00:10:22.760 These types of actions aren't new. They are not new from what we're seeing, especially from Florida,

00:10:28.340 sadly. Florida currently bans teachers from talking about who they are and who they love,

00:10:34.260 as we've talked about many times here in this briefing room. They have banned more books in schools

00:10:38.960 and libraries in almost every other state in the country. And let's not forget, they didn't ban,

00:10:44.500 they didn't block, be more clear, I want to make sure I'm using the right word here,

00:10:47.960 they didn't block AP European history. They didn't block our music history. They didn't block our

00:10:52.980 art history. But the state chooses to block a course that is meant for high-achieving high school

00:10:59.800 students to learn about their history of arts and culture. And it is, you know, it is incomprehensible,

00:11:07.200 again. And I will just leave it there. Leave it there to make your own determination of why this

00:11:13.900 occurred and why this happened. Again, it is not our place to direct or to be involved in any local

00:11:21.440 school curriculum. But this is concerning. Oh, it's not your place. Okay, then quiet.

00:11:27.340 How about we just close that old yap up there at the White House press briefing room? Listen,

00:11:33.680 it's after that 10-minute monologue I just launched into, I just want to make clear it's not my place

00:11:37.720 to weigh in on this. But I'm going to continue to weigh in on it as well. Incomprehensible. The only

00:11:43.560 thing that's incomprehensible is the course. And the way that the Libs are portraying this,

00:11:48.940 that this is about teaching the history of black people. It's not. That's just a complete lie.

00:11:52.740 The course includes books such as Kimberlé Crenshaw's Mapping the Margins, Intersectionality,

00:11:58.440 Identity Politics, and Violence Against Women of Color. That's not, hey, what did Frederick

00:12:03.500 Douglass do? That is pushing a radical Marxist, neo-Marxist, cultural Marxist, whatever term you want

00:12:10.220 to use to describe the 20th century tradition of Western Marxism. That's what it's pushing, okay?

00:12:16.280 Intersectionality. The Case for Reparations by Ta-Nehisi Coates. Ta-Nehisi Coates is a leftist

00:12:24.080 pop writer. He is not a historian. He is not a scholar. He is not someone who deserves even one

00:12:32.140 second's time in a high school classroom. He is a radical and glib magazine essayist.

00:12:39.640 There's a section on black queer studies, as Ron DeSantis said. That is what is incomprehensible.

00:12:44.480 And that is what is going to muddle up students' minds. There's this idea in our society that we

00:12:50.580 need to have a totally open classroom. Don't ban anything. Just be open to all ideas. Well,

00:12:55.440 that's crazy. You have to ban certain ideas. You have to leave them out of the curriculum.

00:13:01.240 There are only so many weeks in a semester. Every second that you waste reading Ta-Nehisi

00:13:06.340 Coates and Kimberlé Crenshaw is a second that you're not reading a real historian, that you're not

00:13:10.780 reading, I don't know, Shakespeare, that you're not reading Tolstoy. You're not reading writers

00:13:15.540 who are valuable, who will edify you, and who will make you more educated. Every second that

00:13:21.160 you waste in a math classroom being taught that two plus two equals five is a second that you're

00:13:25.640 not being taught the truth, which is that two plus two equals four. We have to ban two plus two

00:13:30.120 equals five out of the classroom. And we need to limit our curricula to things that will actually

00:13:36.340 educate students. And I promise you, Kimberlé Crenshaw will not.

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00:14:17.660 delivered. Speaking of banning things in the classroom, Stephen King, the pop novelist, he just

00:14:27.880 tweeted out. He said, hey kids, it's your old buddy Steve King here telling you that if they ban a book

00:14:34.240 in your school, haul your ASS to the nearest bookstore or library ASAP and find out what they don't want

00:14:41.080 you to read. What they, who are they? I don't know. Is they Ron DeSantis? Who's they? He sounds like

00:14:48.120 Kanye over here. Who's they though? Who's they? Well, it depends who they is, I guess. Because I know this

00:14:55.080 is a very popular opinion. It's the opinion, don't ban any books. If there's a banned book,

00:15:00.000 we need to go read it immediately. Well, it depends what the book is and it depends who does

00:15:05.100 the banning. If the banning is being done by bad people who, who are not going to help you become

00:15:11.580 educated, then I guess you should go read the book. If the book is being banned by just and wise and

00:15:17.900 prudent authorities, then maybe don't read the book. Depends what the book is. If the book is Hamlet,

00:15:24.280 then you should go read the book. If the book is gay porn, as is turning up in lots of schools,

00:15:32.360 then don't read the book. If it's pornography of any kind, don't read the book. You will not

00:15:38.940 be edified by that. You will not be educated by that. But what is Stephen King suggesting?

00:15:44.640 All books, Gender Queer by Maya Kababi. We should read that. Maybe, I don't know. Mein Kampf.

00:15:50.700 Listen, they don't want to teach you Mein Kampf in schools. You better go out there. You're in

00:15:55.660 sixth grade. You better go read Mein Kampf. Is that what he's saying? No, I don't think. I mean,

00:15:59.800 even if you're going to read Mein Kampf as a sort of historical study, maybe wait until you're,

00:16:05.500 I don't know, like 16, 17. I don't think. Does anyone really think that's appropriate for a child?

00:16:11.400 I don't think so. I think there are plenty of books that are not appropriate for a child.

00:16:14.220 I think Ulysses by James Joyce. I don't know. Do we really, that's something we have to read? No,

00:16:20.820 of course not. Of course not. It's a very shallow and glib and liberal and modern idea that you should

00:16:28.880 never ban or suppress any book. It is an idea that is completely out of keeping with the entire

00:16:34.800 Western tradition. Catholics, Protestants, ancients, even many secularists, everyone agrees that certain

00:16:46.800 books should not be taught. You see book burning in the Old Testament. Plato argued for the burning

00:16:51.480 of a rival's books. Martin Luther, I often point out on the show being Catholic, Martin Luther's not

00:16:58.460 like my number one guy. Martin Luther argued to burn certain books. But plenty of Catholic writers

00:17:05.140 have argued. The Vatican has a list of banned books. We unnaturally ban certain books. The liberals ban

00:17:13.060 books. They ban the Bible in classrooms. Conservatives used to ban books like gay porn in the classrooms.

00:17:19.120 Everybody recognizes you need, in order to be educated, you need certain limits. That's the whole

00:17:25.020 point of education, just to tamp down your appetites and to cultivate your rational will and virtue.

00:17:29.940 Speaking of schools, well, actually, you know what? Before we get to schools, this will tie in

00:17:36.740 in a second. I'd like to get to an important cultural matter, speaking of limits and standards.

00:17:42.420 M&M's. M&M's has just made a major announcement. It has retired its spokescandies and hired

00:17:51.880 a new spokeslady. M&M's tweets out, America, let's talk. In the last year, we've made some changes to

00:17:59.720 our beloved spokescandies. We weren't sure if anyone would even notice, and we definitely didn't

00:18:04.000 think it would break the internet. But now we get it. Even a candy's shoes can be polarizing,

00:18:08.840 which was the last thing M&M's wanted since we're all about bringing people together.

00:18:13.520 Therefore, we've decided to take an indefinite pause from the spokescandies. In their place,

00:18:18.600 we are proud to introduce a spokesperson America can agree on, the beloved Maya Rudolph. We're

00:18:23.880 confident Ms. Rudolph will champion the power of fun to create a world where everyone feels they

00:18:29.320 belong. I like Maya Rudolph. Very funny lady. I think she was friends with Norm Macdonald. That's

00:18:36.840 really all you need from me to have respect for you. I want to be perfectly clear. M&M's marketing

00:18:44.880 problems will not go away until they bring back the sexy green M&M. Until that green M&M is sexy

00:18:53.280 again, it's not going to go away. I'm not saying this to be provocative. I'm not saying this as a

00:18:59.420 threat. I am simply observing that fact. You may recall last year, M&M's decided to take all the fun

00:19:07.860 little differentiating factors about all the little M&M's characters and do what our culture is doing to

00:19:13.540 everybody and try to make them all kind of uniform and androgynous. And so they turned the green M&M,

00:19:18.640 who had previously been a sexy little trollop of an M&M, and turned her into a kind of tomboyish,

00:19:26.240 androgynous, gender-neutral candy. And there was a lot of backlash to this. And the libs made fun of

00:19:33.360 us. I think Tucker had a real field day with the whole green M&M sexy thing. But the libs made fun of

00:19:38.120 us. They said, well, you weirdos, why do you care about a sexy M&M? Because it's a symbol.

00:19:43.580 I don't think that there are very many people out there who are lusting over the M&M. But it is

00:19:49.420 perfectly rational to be concerned that M&M's is making the M&M less sexy. Because the M&M is a

00:19:57.060 symbol. It's a symbol of the way that we are viewing women in our culture. And that's what people have

00:20:03.120 problems with. We have problems that we're chopping off the breasts of teenage girls. And we're forcing

00:20:07.440 men, forcing women, rather, to change with men in their locker rooms. And we're now posting billboards

00:20:14.940 not of beautiful models to be surrounded by images of beauty, even if they're somewhat idealized through

00:20:20.700 Photoshop and lighting and special effects. But now we're intentionally posting grotesque pictures

00:20:26.420 and grotesqueries all over our culture. Not even just in terms of models, but in terms of all aesthetics.

00:20:32.220 That's what people are concerned about. We're concerned that we now have a culture

00:20:37.300 that is forcing us to live according to lies and forcing us to call good evil and truth falsehood

00:20:45.920 and beauty ugliness. That's what we're concerned about. And M&M's is doing nothing to solve that

00:20:51.480 problem. They're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, we didn't expect a backlash because we took the stilettos

00:20:55.620 off the candy. Whoa, okay, well, to correct that, we're just going to get rid of it entirely.

00:21:00.120 No, we don't want that either. It's such an annoying fact about our culture. It's such an

00:21:06.360 annoying response these days, which is you have a traditional thing, and then you have the liberal

00:21:14.560 agitation to get rid of the traditional thing. And then the culture caves to the liberal agitation.

00:21:21.960 Then you have backlash from the conservatives, and then they just get rid of the thing altogether.

00:21:26.720 I remember this. I was in college. I was on freshman student government in college.

00:21:31.680 And in college, we were going to have a freshman dance. And so we decided it was going to be gone

00:21:36.840 with the wind theme because our class president that year was a Southern guy. And it'd be nice.

00:21:40.540 You wear fun costumes and whatever. And then, as always, it's like liberal white kids saying,

00:21:46.000 this is very offensive to black people. Not to me, and no black people are complaining,

00:21:50.340 but it's offensive. I'm offended on behalf of the black people. And so what happened was the

00:21:56.800 school didn't, the student government, we didn't stick to our guns. We didn't come up with some

00:22:02.620 new interesting idea. We just got rid of the theme. I think the theme ended up being the color blue or

00:22:07.040 something. And that's what our culture does. It always just goes down to the absolute lowest

00:22:10.580 common denominator so that we get rid of all these fun, little, ornate things that define our very

00:22:16.040 culture. We say, okay, we're going to get rid of that. We'll just have a regular spokesman like all

00:22:19.020 the other companies. Okay, that's fine. No, it's not fine. Come on, guys. I want things that are

00:22:23.780 ornate. I want things that are specific and eccentric and traditional. I want the sexy green

00:22:30.720 M&M. That's what I want. Speaking of schools and women who are known for being sexy,

00:22:38.180 Kim Kardashian just spoke at Harvard Business School. And this has caused a major stir.

00:22:44.260 Someone suggested, they said, Kim Kardashian speaking at Harvard Business School? Well,

00:22:50.680 there goes all of Harvard's prestige. And I thought, well, Harvard's prestige? The most impressive

00:22:57.400 Harvard students are the ones who drop out Harvard's prestige. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg.

00:23:05.360 The list goes on and on. They're the ones that drop out Harvard's prestige. Harvard's prestige,

00:23:11.200 one of the most famous Harvard students. I think a graduate to Harvard. I believe that he actually

00:23:17.060 graduated. One of the most impressive Harvard students in recent years is the Unabomber.

00:23:22.120 Harvard's prestige. Harvard's lucky to have Kim Kardashian. Harvard actually is lucky to have

00:23:26.780 Kim Kardashian, especially at the business school, because she was there to talk about her shapewear

00:23:30.400 company, Skims. Put a pause right there. What is a shapewear company? I don't know. I assume it's a

00:23:36.300 clothing kind of company. Shapewear. That's very strange. They listened at this school to a two-hour

00:23:45.220 lecture as part of a direct-to-consumer seminar. Kim Kardashian is a co-founder of this company,

00:23:51.880 Skims. It's a multi-billion-dollar company. It launched a private equity firm called Sky Partners.

00:23:59.200 Skims recently doubled its valuation from $1.6 billion to $3.2 billion over a period of just

00:24:07.520 nine months as investors rushed to acquire equity in that company. Then Kim goes on,

00:24:13.540 launches this private equity company. I don't know. She's pretty impressive to me,

00:24:17.040 at least by the standard of business school. I don't know that Kim Kardashian has read a lot

00:24:22.440 of old poetry or Greek philosophy or anything like that, but the woman knows a thing or two about

00:24:27.680 business. And there's a big difference between a liberal arts education, which is what a lot of

00:24:33.560 people seek for an undergraduate education, and a business school education, or a law school education,

00:24:39.280 or a medical school education. Those are trades. That's vocational training to learn a job.

00:24:45.120 So I agree, it would probably be inappropriate for Kim Kardashian, who is famous for showing off her

00:24:52.800 body on camera, and then having a reality TV show launched from that. It would be probably

00:24:58.640 inappropriate for her to go lecture on Dostoevsky or something, on Aristotle at Harvard undergraduate.

00:25:06.160 But in terms of business school, yeah, she's one of the most successful businessmen in the country.

00:25:11.600 And business school is largely a farce, including Harvard business school, including all the really

00:25:18.080 prominent business schools. The purpose of business school is not to really educate yourself all that

00:25:21.880 much. It's mostly for networking. It can be a credential if you want to move up the management

00:25:26.460 hierarchy. But if you want to be an entrepreneur and launch your own business, it's really, the whole

00:25:30.380 point of it is just networking. You don't need to actually do that much in terms of scholarly rigor

00:25:36.920 to be in business school. And I just, I find it, I hate to take Kim Kardashian's side

00:25:41.280 in almost any matter, but it's just so absurdly elitist. It's so baselessly elitist for anyone to

00:25:52.360 suggest, oh, Kim Kardashian, she has no right to lecture at this school. Kim Kardashian is more

00:25:57.600 successful than any of the people that she is lecturing will ever be in terms of business acumen

00:26:04.360 and business success. I would be willing to bet a significant amount of money that not one person in

00:26:09.840 that lecture hall will ever make more money or be more successful in business than Kim Kardashian.

00:26:14.940 Business school, like so much of our higher education structure these days, is pretty much

00:26:20.180 a joke. Actually, here's the proof. There's an amazing story just came out yesterday from Wharton

00:26:25.080 School of Business. Wharton is arguably the best business school in the country. Harvard is also up

00:26:29.520 there, but Wharton out of UPenn is one of the very top schools in the country. And chat GPT,

00:26:37.300 which is an AI program, just did very well on some Wharton Business School exams.

00:26:48.180 This is a mass market artificial intelligence chatbot. It was launched by OpenAI. I've played

00:26:53.720 around on it. I'm sure a lot of other people have played around on this software as well.

00:26:57.740 Well, a research paper from Wharton, from this professor Christian Turvich, said that chat GPT earned

00:27:05.180 a grade between a B and a B minus on a final exam that is usually presented to MBA students.

00:27:11.200 What does this mean? This, I mean, it's kind of funny, and maybe it shows you that business school

00:27:16.200 isn't all that hard, and maybe it shows you that artificial intelligence is really impressive.

00:27:20.280 The most important thing this tells you is that the current line about artificial intelligence is

00:27:27.820 backwards. The current line about artificial intelligence is that AI is going to replace all

00:27:32.200 those useless, low-skilled workers. This is what you hear from people like Yuval Harari or some of

00:27:39.320 the world economic foreign types that say, oh, you know, we're going to have all these useless people

00:27:43.100 in the future because of automation. And so we'll just ply them with drugs and video games. And

00:27:47.660 usually what they mean by useless people are the poor people, the uneducated people,

00:27:53.720 the service worker type people. They're going to be replaced by automation.

00:28:00.260 Chat GPT, Wharton Business School, is showing it's the opposite. The useless people are the

00:28:07.740 white-collar workers in most cases. Not all of them, but a lot of them. Chat GPT shows, quote,

00:28:14.920 a remarkable ability to automate some of the skills of highly compensated knowledge workers in general,

00:28:20.480 and specifically the knowledge workers in the jobs held by MBA graduates. It does an amazing job at

00:28:26.160 basic operations management and process analysis questions, including those that are based on case

00:28:31.280 studies. Not only are the answers correct, but the explanations are excellent. Right. It is true that

00:28:39.820 at McDonald's now, sometimes there will be fewer workers because you can place your orders on machines,

00:28:44.900 but you still have workers there. Okay. And McDonald's is one of the most automated of any

00:28:52.300 restaurant chain. When you go out to a restaurant where you actually want a dining experience,

00:28:56.900 that is always going to have people involved in it because people augment that experience. You want

00:29:02.680 the waiter to come over in the nice coat with the tie and say, Mr. So-and-so, can I get you a drink?

00:29:08.780 Oh, I recommend having the pasta with the steak. Or you want that human experience. That's part of

00:29:14.720 what makes going out to dinner special. You don't want Thelma to come over, Thelma the robot to say,

00:29:19.580 beep, boop, martini or Manhattan? Beep, beep, boop. You know, it just starts frying. That wouldn't be

00:29:25.220 fun and special. You want that human contact. You are going to want, even as robots become more common

00:29:31.680 in our homes, you're still going to want people with their judgment, with that human touch,

00:29:36.040 with their artistic ability to go in and operate certain aspects of the service economy.

00:29:43.640 I'm not sure that you need any human beings to operate most of business and management and

00:29:48.060 white-collar jobs. The people who should be really afraid here are all those white-collar laptop

00:29:54.820 workers, all the ones who tell the poor rust belt Americans whose politicians betrayed them and who

00:30:01.820 ship their jobs overseas, the ones who say, well, just learn to code, keep up. Yeah,

00:30:06.720 the ones who are going to need to learn to code are going to be largely white-collar workers. And

00:30:11.340 they're never going to learn to code better than chat GPT. So I don't know. Maybe it's time to learn

00:30:15.220 to plumb. Time to learn to install electrical wires. Time to learn a useful trade, I would suggest.

00:30:23.820 Speaking of white-collar jobs, yet another person has strongly intimated that she will throw her hat

00:30:34.300 in the ring for the most prestigious white-collar job of all, President of the United States. That

00:30:39.140 person would be Nikki Haley. Are you going to run for president? Well, I'm not going to make an

00:30:44.560 announcement here. But when you're looking at a run for president, you look at two things. You first look

00:30:49.180 at, does the current situation push for new leadership? The second question is, am I that

00:30:56.560 person that could be that new leader? Yes, we need to go in a new direction. And can I be that

00:31:01.360 leader? Yes, I think I can be that leader. I was, as governor, I took on a hurting state with double

00:31:07.020 digit unemployment, and we made it the beast of the Southeast. As ambassador, you know, I took on

00:31:13.140 the world when they tried to disrespect us. And I think I showed what I'm capable of at the United

00:31:18.680 Nation. So do I think I could be that leader? Yes, but we are still working through things, and we'll

00:31:24.240 figure it out. I've never lost a race. I said that then. I still say that now. I'm not going to lose

00:31:29.320 now, but stay tuned. It sounds like you're close. It sounds, are we getting to the exploratory

00:31:34.080 committee stage here? I think stay tuned. Okay, so yes is the answer. Barring some horrible polling

00:31:42.280 that Nikki receives showing that she's at the complete bottom of the deck, this is a woman who is

00:31:48.040 planning to run for president in 2024. And there's one thing holding it up, or one thing complicating

00:31:55.460 her announcement, which is that Nikki Haley has previously said that she would not run for

00:32:01.100 president in 2024 if Trump runs. She said she wouldn't run if Trump runs, that she's behind

00:32:07.220 Trump, she supports Trump. And this was complicated because she made those comments after she had

00:32:12.960 criticized Trump in the press and criticized Trump after January 6th and all the rest of it.

00:32:19.320 And that's complicated because Nikki Haley made those criticisms after she had been a loyal Trump

00:32:25.780 defender. She was one of the most prominent loyal Trump officials during the administration. She was

00:32:32.340 at the UN, which is a great job. She did a great job in the job, but it's a really great job if you want

00:32:37.560 to raise your public profile because your whole job is to stand up against the worst people in the world

00:32:41.480 every single day. And you hold your hand up and you say, I'm going to stick it to you, China or North

00:32:45.580 Korea or wherever. So that was complicated. And then it was complicated because she had been

00:32:51.180 somewhat critical of Trump before he became president. So there had been a kind of

00:32:59.700 ambiguity to exactly which lane Nikki Haley was going to run in. There was a world in which Nikki Haley

00:33:08.080 could have run in the Trump lane had Trump not run for president. Even though Nikki Haley is

00:33:14.160 probably more moderate than Donald Trump, don't forget Donald Trump had a fairly moderate political

00:33:19.940 record before he became president. So he moved a little bit, a lot more in the conservative direction

00:33:24.620 as well. Nikki Haley had a relatively moderate Republican record as governor of South Carolina.

00:33:31.340 Then she was more in the Trump direction. And now I think what this tells you,

00:33:35.000 the fact that she is going full speed ahead is that Nikki Haley is looking to run probably more

00:33:41.120 in the moderate lane in 2024. Trump's got the Trump lane. DeSantis is running in the,

00:33:50.060 really, I guess, to the right of Donald Trump, specifically to the right of Trump on COVID,

00:33:54.920 specifically to the right of Donald Trump on the vaccines. And then roughly in the same place as

00:34:01.100 Donald Trump on every other issue. And then you've got Nikki Haley, I think, staking out the

00:34:07.380 moderate ground. And we all knock the moderates and regularly call for people to go further to the

00:34:14.000 right of Attila the Hun. But this is the Republican Party. There's a huge moderate faction of the

00:34:19.320 Republican Party. And right now, Nikki Haley is the top candidate in that faction. I can't think of

00:34:24.740 another person. I know that John Kasich has suggested maybe he wants to run in that. Or

00:34:30.180 there have been Larry Hogan, who's a moderate governor of Maryland, thinks that he wants to

00:34:34.940 run in that lane. And there are some other people as well. But right now, I think Nikki Haley is

00:34:39.720 probably the top pick. What it also tells you is Nikki does not believe that Trump is going to clear

00:34:45.160 the field. The argument for Trump even announcing as early as he did was that Trump's announcement

00:34:50.940 would clear the field of candidates because Trump was so potent a force in the GOP. But his poll

00:34:57.220 numbers, if one believes polls, have remained where they were or declined actually a little bit.

00:35:03.020 And so the political effect of that is it hasn't cleared the field. Ron DeSantis is, for all intents

00:35:08.140 and purposes, running for president right now. There are other people waiting in the wings. Tim Scott

00:35:12.100 has suggested he might run. Mike Pompeo suggested he might run. Mike Pence looks like he's going to run.

00:35:17.300 Mike Pence also might try to run a little bit more in that moderate lane for president. But because of

00:35:24.120 the way that his relationship ended with Trump, his political numbers are just not that great right

00:35:28.540 now. So I think Nikki Haley thinks she could probably beat him in that lane. So all of which tells you

00:35:33.560 that unless something dramatically changes for Trump, he might still get the nomination. He might still

00:35:38.560 win the presidency. There is going to be a primary. Unless something radical changes today,

00:35:44.660 there will be a primary. There's another really important

00:35:48.540 caveat to all of this, or additional detail rather, which is that another woman wants to

00:35:54.800 run for president. That would be Governor Kristi Noem in South Dakota.

00:35:59.340 I think all of us can agree as Americans that China shouldn't be buying up land in the United States,

00:36:04.680 that they're an enemy, they're an evil government built on communism and taking away freedom,

00:36:09.860 and that that isn't something we should allow to have a presence here in our great country.

00:36:14.820 This is an issue that came up, you know, months ago when we saw a land purchase in North Dakota,

00:36:20.460 our neighbors to the north, that a Chinese entity bought up land next to their Air Force base,

00:36:27.080 saying they were going to build a corn plant, but there wasn't enough even corn grown in that area to

00:36:32.960 sustain a facility like that. And it became under question. I think we all agree that,

00:36:37.120 that we shouldn't allow our enemies to have a presence, especially close to our national

00:36:41.700 security infrastructure. We have Ellsworth Air Force Base, which is going to be the home of the

00:36:46.540 B-21s. We want to make sure that those who have the chance to purchase our land here in our state

00:36:51.920 love America, and that they want to do good, not do us harm.

00:36:56.340 So Kristi Noem is saying she wants to restrict land purchases by the Chinese. You might remember this

00:37:00.640 story because Ron DeSantis announced that a week or two ago. What does this tell you? Kristi Noem

00:37:04.960 wants to run for president. I think she's made that perfectly clear over the last two years.

00:37:10.020 And Kristi Noem is going to run in the Ron DeSantis lane. So Ron DeSantis here leading among

00:37:16.400 the governors. There's no question Ron DeSantis is the leader and everyone else is following suit.

00:37:23.140 Kristi Noem thinks she's going to take on that lane. Then you've got Nikki Haley and maybe Mike Pence

00:37:28.640 and maybe Tim Scott running in the somewhat more moderate lane. Then you've got Trump out here.

00:37:33.680 They all think that Trump is relatively weak and can be beaten. But Trump is also running because

00:37:38.040 Trump and Haley and DeSantis and Noem and Pence and everybody else, all these Republicans who want

00:37:44.780 to run in 2024, they're looking up at the White House. They're looking at Biden. They're saying,

00:37:48.380 this guy is weak. This guy can be beat. And I think we all agree with that.

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00:40:01.440 who do we have? Let's take it away with Alex from Taiwan. Alex, you're on the air.

00:40:09.080 Hello, Michael. Can you hear me?

00:40:10.160 I can hear you. Alex, what time is it in Taiwan right now?

00:40:14.420 It is 11 at 10 at night. I stayed up for you last night, but you didn't want to take my call.

00:40:19.340 Alex, thank you for staying up over in Taiwan. I appreciate it. Maybe you've had a couple of

00:40:23.980 Coca-Colas. Maybe you're more relaxed. Maybe I should start doing my show at 11 o'clock

00:40:27.720 central. I don't know. How can I help you?

00:40:30.080 I won't. So it's more that I can help you. You mentioned last week that you are a huge Elvis

00:40:36.000 Presley fan. And I just wanted to let you know one of the secrets of Israel. You're both a staunch

00:40:40.320 Catholic and you want to probably go to the Holy Land at some point or return there if you've already

00:40:43.740 been. And so the last time I went, I found out that there is an Elvis Presley cafe just west of

00:40:50.180 Jerusalem. Outside of it, the builder decided that a lot of kings had come through the city, but

00:40:55.420 the King of Rock had never got his chance. And so he created a giant golden statue of Elvis Presley.

00:41:01.060 If you go inside of the cafe, you can pay about 35 shekels and they give you a mug with coffee in

00:41:05.880 it and you get to keep the mug. And on the mug is a picture of Elvis and a couple other things.

00:41:10.500 And so I just want to let you know that the next time you go there, you can kill two birds with

00:41:13.540 one stone. Alex, that is amazing. In a city that is really for the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords,

00:41:20.520 in the Holy Land where many kings traveled from all over the world to see the King of Kings,

00:41:27.080 things. It certainly makes sense that the King of Rock and Roll would join the Magi and so many

00:41:32.620 other of the terrestrial royalty to come on over and visit the Holy Land. Thank you, Alex. Thank you

00:41:37.960 for that advice. I look forward to visiting the Elvis Cafe next time. I hope it's not a kind of golden

00:41:42.920 idol of Elvis. That would be unfortunate. But as long as it's merely an object of admiration or

00:41:50.220 veneration rather than worship, I think that's a wonderful thing. Okay, let's turn to Jake from South

00:41:56.500 Florida. Jake, you're on the air. Hey, Michael, I had a question about marriage. So you often talk

00:42:04.320 about how the left tries to redefine terms and specifically the word marriage. But I guess

00:42:10.100 to me, it seems at least that the left successfully has redefined that word. And at what point do you

00:42:16.040 accept the fact that it is no longer like, you know, a union between man and woman and the common

00:42:22.500 cultural understanding really is, you know, just what people do when they love each other and

00:42:27.920 realize that you might be holding on to an old definition of marriage, much like someone might

00:42:33.100 be saying, well, you know, in the 1940s, a computer was someone who did calculations and people might

00:42:38.160 just say, well, that doesn't make sense anymore. The answer is you never accept the new definition

00:42:44.340 of marriage. And you never accept it, not because, I don't know, not because you are an old fuddy

00:42:51.420 daddy or not because you're stuck in the past or not because you hate gay people or anything. That's

00:42:54.980 one of the most preposterous accusations that we get, especially that I get. You know, I'm from New

00:43:00.640 York. I went to the gayest university in the United States, if not the world. I lived in Los Angeles

00:43:05.660 surrounded by a bunch of show business weirdos. A disproportionate number of my friends

00:43:11.460 have had homosexual inclinations, okay? But no matter how much you love your gay cousin or whoever

00:43:18.660 else in your life, you can never accept the new definition of marriage because marriage is not up

00:43:25.660 for redefinition. Certain things can be up for redefinition. Things that are merely socially

00:43:31.200 constructed. Fashions. Fashion is a perfect example of this. Male fashion has changed dramatically over

00:43:39.160 times. Several centuries ago, men wore frilly sorts of coats and high heels. Now, men don't do that.

00:43:47.040 Fashion has been redefined for men and for women. But the reality of men and women, the fundamental

00:43:54.100 reality and the union between a man and a woman that we call marriage cannot be redefined because

00:44:00.020 marriage is not socially constructed, but rather is a natural institution. And the reason that marriage

00:44:06.360 is a natural institution is because, as Aristotle says, and as St. Thomas Aquinas kind of baptizing

00:44:13.980 Aristotle or explicating Aristotle points out, man is a social being. Man is not, as the liberals would

00:44:20.460 have us believe, man is not just floating as an individual atom in space completely undifferentiated

00:44:26.400 and we're all just the same and a woman is no different than a man and a man no different than

00:44:32.800 a woman. No, that's not really how it is. Man is a social being. We find our identity in society with

00:44:39.720 one another. And there is a distinction in human nature between men and women because men and women

00:44:44.060 are not indiscernible and indistinguishable, but are in fact complementary. And so because man is a

00:44:50.740 social being, because we have distinct sexual natures, and because man is a coupling being,

00:44:57.300 man is naturally drawn to couple with a woman physically and spiritually as well. And then the

00:45:03.980 product of that union is a new human being. So fundamental is that to human nature. Then you

00:45:11.680 simply cannot redefine marriage. We can pretend all we want all day, but that's not going to do

00:45:17.240 anything. Even if we remain confused for decades, even if we remain confused in certain countries for

00:45:24.020 a century or two, marriage will endure because it is part of natural law and it's part of man's very

00:45:34.020 nature in his own desire and self-understanding. Okay, before we go, let's take another question

00:45:40.100 from Anthony in Alabama. Anthony, you are on the air from the state that houses my absolute favorite

00:45:49.240 city in America. What city is that? Well, that would be Mobile, Alabama. I've just always loved

00:45:57.160 Mobile. I tell sweet little Elisa that we're going to retire there someday. She's never been,

00:46:01.380 but it's just a very charming city. So Anthony, what's on your mind? It'd be great to have you,

00:46:06.340 Michael. Okay. Um, I've been a fan for about two years. I want to first thank you for your Catholic

00:46:10.600 faith and conservative ideas that have shaped me. Um, I'm going to the university of Alabama next

00:46:15.480 year. I'm interested in politics and possibly going to get a degree in philosophy. Uh, thanks to you,

00:46:20.380 um, encouraging that. Um, and maybe a law degree depending on how things go other than starting my

00:46:26.000 club named cigars and politics. What should I involve myself in to, uh, kind of dabble in to see

00:46:32.100 what I should maybe, you know, do in life, I guess is what I'm saying. I love that club. I too started

00:46:38.360 a cigar club in college. It was called the society for intellectual growth and reinvigoration

00:46:43.280 or cigar. And it was just a front to get the school to pay for my cigar habit for me and my

00:46:49.720 buddies. So that's great. I think that will be very edifying for you. And I think it will be not

00:46:54.220 only because cigars are tasty and it's kind of a fun thing to do. And as far as vices go, I think it's,

00:46:57.920 you know, relatively quite innocent, but also because one of the best things you can do in

00:47:01.760 college is stay up late. Uh, hopefully not over too many drinks, you know, over an okay number

00:47:08.000 of drinks, but you don't want to be completely out of your mind because you stay up late over

00:47:11.680 cigars, which sharpen your mind because of the nicotine and because of the relaxation that comes

00:47:16.740 from that. And you just debate all sorts of matters with your friends. And that that's going to

00:47:20.300 provide you, at least in my experience, it did provide you as good an education, probably a much

00:47:25.960 better education than what you're going to get in the classrooms. What else can you involve yourself

00:47:29.940 in? I would recommend if you, if you want to maintain a tie to the school, whether for networking

00:47:36.920 or friendship or both, uh, you should involve yourself in one somewhat established institution.

00:47:42.300 I did that. I'm a member of a, one of the conservative debating societies from my college.

00:47:47.860 And, and it was just, it's just a wonderful group. And it's, it's really my main tie left to the,

00:47:53.280 the university. Um, so that, that's a great thing to do. And then in terms of setting yourself up for

00:47:59.180 a job, again, don't forget, you're not at the school, you're studying philosophy. So you could

00:48:03.020 go to law school later. That's a trade school. You go to business school later. That's a trade school.

00:48:06.880 Get on the job training. Okay, good. You're learning your trade, but you're, you're studying in college

00:48:12.280 to cultivate your soul and to, to, uh, to not study something that is going to directly get you a job.

00:48:20.980 So you got to take care of the job stuff separately. For me, if you want to go into politics,

00:48:26.100 for me, the best training I got was working on a political campaign between my sophomore and junior

00:48:31.320 year, and then into my junior year. That was a very, very, uh, effective training ground for what

00:48:40.420 I now work in, which is politics and political media even specifically. Uh, so I would do that.

00:48:46.000 You, you do that through your internships. You do that even maybe off campus a little bit

00:48:49.580 that can distinguish you to employers. That'll give you that training that will then compliment

00:48:52.800 the intellectual and spiritual work that you've done in your liberal education.

00:48:57.320 Thank you for calling in. We are going to take one or two more callers over in the member block,

00:49:01.040 but we got to go to the member block. Okay. The show continues now. You don't want to miss it.

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