Ep. 118 - National Women For Trump Day! ft. Tana Goertz
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Tana Gertz is a businesswoman, television star of The Apprentice, and senior advisor and spokesman for the Trump 2016 and 2020 campaigns. She led President Trump s campaign efforts in Iowa, which he won despite the state going twice in a row for Barack Obama.
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We are going to be joined by a wonderful national woman for Trump, Tana Gertz.
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Tana is a businesswoman, television star of The Apprentice, and senior advisor and spokesman
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Tana led President Trump's campaign efforts in Iowa, which he won despite the state going
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We will discuss the campaign, staff shakeups, and Republican chances in the next election.
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Then, my favorite international women, and finally, the mailbag.
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You know, sometimes on this show, I'll admit, I can be a little bit dismissive of hashtag
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activism, this day, that day, Kony 2012, Je suis Charlie, that sort of thing.
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So instead today, in the spirit of International Women's Day, I will name just a few of my
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English women are great because they have that cute little accent.
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And also, don't let anybody tell you that English cooking is no good.
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A nice slice of beef wellington with that flaky little dough, mm-mm-mm.
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Brazilian women, because they're tall and tan and young and lovely.
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The girl from Ipanema goes walking, and when she passes, each one she passes goes, ah.
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There you have it, my favorite international women.
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That's a really wonderful way to start the day.
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Of course, nobody knows anything about the day.
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You say, oh, yeah, it's International what-and-what day.
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As with most things that begin with the word international, International Women's Day is
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And it's particularly nefarious socialist nonsense, but we'll get to why later.
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It changed the 20th century in some ways, so it's really bad.
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The first National Women's Day was held in 1909 in New York.
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In 1910, the International Socialist Women's Conference created International Women's Day,
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Following the October Revolution in 1917, Vladimir Lenin made it a national holiday in the Soviet
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He made International Women's Day a national holiday.
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I wonder why communist thugs made International Women's Day a national holiday.
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It's because on International Women's Day, on March 8th in 1917, an international women's
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demonstration actually started the Russian Revolution.
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It started the communist revolution that just destroyed the 20th century.
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A protest of women textile workers in Petrograd took place.
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This is commonly cited as the inciting incident of the Russian Revolution.
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Trotsky admitted, Leon Trotsky admitted that he'd helped plan the protest, but even he
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was surprised at how widespread its effects were.
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He wrote, quote, meetings and actions were foreseen, but we did not imagine that this Women's
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But it did, right from the horse's mouth, right from that communist horse's mouth.
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The holiday, International Women's Day, was celebrated almost exclusively by communist countries and
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socialist activists until 1975 when it was adopted by the United Nations.
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But maybe that wasn't very much of a change, was it?
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Tana is the former star of The Apprentice, senior advisor to President Trump's 2016 and
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So you led the Trump campaign efforts in Iowa, which President Trump won in 2016.
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And it was a big win because Barack Obama won that state in both 2008 and 2012.
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It really, really came down to we needed to educate the people of Iowa about this man.
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And in Iowa, we don't have real stars because we don't have professional teams like a lot
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So they're not used to having celebrities like Donald Trump come into town and take over.
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And so it was just, it was a process of sort of teetering back and forth with, you are this
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huge star, but we're going to just water it down for a little bit until they get to love you.
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Then we'll show them really what you're capable of.
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And so I've known him very, for a couple of, well, almost a little over a decade.
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So I knew how to strategize that relationship with him because I went from being unknown,
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an unknown Iowan, to being on his show, then being unknown Iowan.
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And I know how I had to tread a little lightly because they don't really, you know, they're
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Your experience of him probably made it so much easier for the campaign to work.
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I see in campaigns all the time, they bring in the professional crew from DC, the whole
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And usually, usually those guys are full of it.
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I mean, they don't know anything about the district.
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Actually, that's what happened originally, where, you know, let's come on in and the bravado
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of Trump and, and all this and all that, and bringing the bells and the whistles.
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But at the end of the day, no, we need to tread lightly, then we'll amplify it.
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So it was, it was a process, but, but regardless of all of that, that was just a small part of
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What my role was, cause I had, I don't have a political bone in my body.
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My parents weren't, you know, political junkies.
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So this was a decision that I had to make deciding, do I want to walk into this arena that
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I'm not interested in, never had an interest in, but I want to make history with this man.
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And I know I can sell them to the American people, not only the people of Iowa.
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So I had to say, you know, I'm going to approach this like it's a business.
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So I more or less said to all those political, what they thought were gurus, move over.
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Cause I'm coming in and there's a new sheriff in town and I know this man and you don't.
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I'm sure of it because I've seen it on the races that win are the ones where the, the
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The idea of a political guru, I think it's totally nonsense.
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And you say you never worked on a political campaign in any capacity.
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And so the only reason is because I knew him, I knew what he was capable of.
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It'd be like your, your best friend, somebody going, do you think Michael could, you know,
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do you think Michael could make that call or, or what?
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And they're like, oh my gosh, like I know this man so well, of course.
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You really thought he was the solution to America's problems.
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Let me tell you what, the minute he came down that escalator, I said, it's over.
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I won huge because I knew he was capable of it because I'd seen him in his boardroom.
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I knew everything that I needed to know to say, hey, do I want to put my professional
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speaking career on hold and my business coaching career on hold?
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Oh, and my little radio show on hold to go make history with the president of the United
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And then I knew if I could get him the win in Iowa, well, first off, he told me I have
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to win Iowa or I will not be the next president.
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And I knew if I got him the win here, I'd have a Trump card forever.
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And what I really like about your story is that you've known this guy for a long time
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because it seems to me there's this extremely tedious debate started by Trump's critics on
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the right, really, over whether Donald Trump is a complete nincompoop.
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He's a total dolt as the never Trump crowd disingenuously mocks.
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The, the, his critics on the right, they say he's either adult or he's playing 12D dimensional
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And I am a Trump supporter and I don't know any Trump supporter who thinks he's playing
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And I suspect that the guy who has remained relevant for 40 years and succeeded at the
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highest levels of four extremely competitive industries might be smarter than your average
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He, he's actually the smartest man that I know.
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And my husband's a scientist, graduated magna cum laude at Florida state.
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So when I say he's, Trump is the smartest man I know, I'm, I'm, that's not, uh, throwing
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I can't tell you how many times defending his quote, conspiracy theory.
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And I'm like, Oh, imagine that that came to fruition.
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About the FBI, you mean about the Obama administration using the government to attack his political
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It was like, Michael, it went back to back to back.
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Like, do you think that, you know, he was taped wire taped?
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Do you think this, do you think everything that he said?
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And they said they, they killed me for on national television.
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And I'm like, no, honestly, it'll come to fruition.
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So he's not only the smartest man that I know, but he works so hard.
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And the other thing that I love about him is he does his homework.
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So if he was going to be on an interview with you, he would know everything about you.
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He would know where you're from, where you live.
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If you're single, if you, uh, if you, I mean, he'd know everything about you.
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So he'd come into my state and he'd be like, okay, so who am I going to see here today?
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And I'd be like, oh, you're going to meet with, um, governor Branstad.
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And the thing else that I love about him is I would also give him cliff notes, literally
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on a back of a business card, this, do this, do that, watch the swear words, uh, this, that
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and, and literally, and I go, oh, and here was another thing I was on his plane with him
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And he told me that he spends, uh, it was, I believe 10 or excuse me, $15 million on John
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You got to say that out there at that rally, the place will go nuts.
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And he trusts me because I'd never blow them up.
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And he gets out there and he goes, y'all like John Deere and the place.
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And he's like, well, you know, I spend $15 million in John Deere equipment.
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We had, we had so many men juiced up about the fact that he spends all that money on John
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I mean, he's not only super smart, he works super hard.
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He puts in the time and he really wants to make a difference.
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And the other thing that I love about him that maybe nobody has figured out yet is, and
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I've learned this being a nobody and then becoming famous because of the show, The Apprentice.
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If the media doesn't make you, the media can't break you.
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So there's no way they're going to take him down.
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And you can even, you know, put me in that category.
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Like, you know, some of these, some of these people who were on the campaign that were
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just taking a paycheck, didn't even probably vote for the man.
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And I also told him about all those losers, you know, took a paycheck, didn't even care
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about him, didn't even work their butt off for him, probably didn't even vote for him.
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You know, chalk it in halfway, you know, cash it in, do the lazy man way out or whatever.
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They're on CNN every night trying to get their, keep their 15 minutes of fame.
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The media will put them on, let them implode themselves.
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And now, oh boy, now they're spiraling out of control because why?
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You know, this reminds me of an Andrew Klavan quote about Donald Trump, which is he who
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He first makes mad, you know, and he does seem, they do seem to all just blow up and spiral
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down and on the hard work, you know, this, especially leading the efforts in Iowa.
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If anybody's worked on any political campaign before, I've worked on a lot at all different
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levels, even if you're working on a dog catcher campaign, it is exhausting, grueling, thankless
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And to watch Donald Trump at the highest level and with unprecedented in modern history,
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unprecedented opposition, do it with a grin, do it with that kind of Trumpian smirk and
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It really makes you question all of these news reports on CNN that he isn't in good
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health or he's rambling or senile or whatever nonsense that they also said about Ronald Reagan.
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Let me tell you what, when we were towards the end and I knew, I mean, I knew he was going
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When he became the candidate and we went to the convention, I was like, oh my God, like
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And then when I knew like, oh my gosh, this is, this is in the bag.
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We were wrapping up like Iowa and we had maybe three rallies in one day all across the state.
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So we were flying in, in Trump force one and we were so hungry.
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I mean, I, I know all I had to do was get people there, get volunteers there, hype up the
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I only had to do, you know, maybe five minutes where he had to do an hour.
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All's I wanted was that damn Big Mac that he was putting in front of me.
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Everybody gives him a hard time about the Big Mac.
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You've exhausted all of, you want to eat your Big Mac and your fries and you just want people
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So this man is taking grief about eating Big Macs.
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He is putting us like, I mean, he's got a couple of decades on me.
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I got three decades on some of these kids that are in the campaign that are just like,
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Cause this man's blowing people down and we're going to take this all the way to the white
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And I just looked at him like, I know what it's like being a professional speaker.
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When you get on that stage and you see your crowd, man, you just, you light up and it's
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And I want to know how you think that's translating to 2020.
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Clearly you think he's doing a good job in office.
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What do you think the people of Iowa will think?
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Has he lived up to expectations or are they going to go for him in 2020 at this?
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Obviously I know it's early on, but at this rate, are they going to go for him?
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I keep saying that when we were, when he just came out to Iowa recently, the bottom of the
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I've told you farmers, I wasn't going to do this.
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I told you I was going to save the renewable fuel standard.
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And it's all about like, he's keeping his promises.
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We love the fact that we, we have more money in our 401ks and in our, our pocketbooks, bank
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You know, like what about the jobs that he's bringing back to America?
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And we needed somebody who, uh, had a set that, you know, could say like, Hey man, guess
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It's funny because those who are, have been in the conservative movement a long time or worked
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down a lot of campaigns or just have their heads in politics.
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We've gotten all these, uh, originalist judges on the courts.
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We've gotten deregulation at this agency and a pivot at this agency and do, do, do, do,
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But for, I think a lot of Americans, what it, it's, as James Carville said, it's the
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And what it comes down to is this guy is a pro growth president.
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He's going to, to do what works for the American economy.
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And he's going to prioritize not what kinds of bathrooms people have to use in this state
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He's going to focus on what Americans care about, which is how their wallets are doing,
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how they, what they, how much disposable income they have to spend on their families
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And also, Michael, one other thing I'm going to add is, uh, he also wants to keep America
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And that was a huge, huge point for a lot of women.
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And I started up the women for Trump coalition here in Iowa and women wanted to know, like,
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I don't need to worry that somebody is going to come.
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ISIS is going to come and steal my kids and hurt my family.
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And that's another thing that, you know, he is, he's not going to back down.
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And anybody that thinks that president Trump is going anywhere is sadly mistaken.
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If anybody thinks that president Trump is going to weaken or kind of get worn out, he's
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not, he's Teflon Don is what I call him, you know, just rolls right off of his back.
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It's kind of, he's kind of like, I'm the same way.
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If somebody wants to say, yeah, I don't know, Tana, if you could do it.
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And, and, and really we're only one year into this and people are already excited about the
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Give us three more years and he'll have so many people that are excited about him that
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And what I'll do is sort of be scoreboard, scoreboard.
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You know, I will say, I was so pleased looking at the returns from the Texas GOP primaries
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They told us Republicans weren't going to turn out.
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It was going to be a low turnout, big blue wave.
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Now Democrats turned out too, at a much lower rate.
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We got to make sure Republicans go out to vote, but it was really excellent to see there's
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And I have one last question before I have to let you go.
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I'm not politically correct and I don't ever want to be because I agree with President Trump.
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You know, there's a lot of, a lot of wimpy people in offices that just don't like,
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I have that same strength, but I don't ever see me doing this.
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I'm loving what I'm doing and I'm really excited about my new business, the US-China
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Really excited to help push President Trump's agenda, but from the outside.
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And what does the, what does the US-China Exchange Group, what is it working on right
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Right now, we're trying to get agri businesses to sign up, to go on a mission trip.
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And we're taking 10 companies, US companies that want to grow and improve their trade
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We're taking them over to China and we're going to introduce them to their counterparts
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over there and help sort of be the project managers for making, getting through the red
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I totally understand why you wouldn't want to run for office.
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I will say though, I think one thing that Donald Trump has showed us is that politically
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And we can probably thank President Covfefe for that.
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So, hey, listen, maybe, maybe there's a chance that if you run for office, you don't have
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to become one of these mealy-mouthed, boring politicians.
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You can remain true to yourself and project strength.
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I know if you are watching us on YouTube right now, get yourself some clinical help because
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You're probably stumbling around drunk somewhere or on drugs.
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Maybe a few of you are still able to see us on YouTube even though they're censoring the
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You get me, you get the Andrew Klavan Show, you get the Ben Shapiro Show, you get to
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That is going to be Tuesday, March 13th at 5.30 p.m. Eastern, 2.30 Pacific.
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Look, anybody can watch, but only subscribers can ask the questions.
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If you want to do that, you'll just tune right in.
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You go into the Daily Wire, the conversation page.
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Ben will answer them in the order that they come in.
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What we really care about is this leftist tears tumbler.
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It's already filling because of the Texas primaries, because the results came out and
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Republicans trounced Democrats in turnout by, Democrats were 50% lower.
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So look, if you want to protect yourself and your family, obviously there's a lot of talk
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about the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
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This is the only FDA approved vessel for salty, delicious leftist tears.
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We have a lot of mailbag today and I'm going to bulldoze through them.
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From Michael, Michael, if a main role of the government consists of preservation of
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life, could it not be argued then that government has the duty to fully fund a universal health
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I think by that you mean socialized medicine, socialist, socialist health care.
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The government fully funds a police force in order to preserve life against the threat
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Why not then against the threat of sickness or disease?
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It seems to me that if we have a right to police protection, then we should have a right
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This is not putting a gun to a police officers or a doctor's head and forcing their labor.
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Police officers sign up knowing that they have an obligation to protect people.
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Why can't doctors sign up knowing they have an obligation to treat people?
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I agree with limited government, but if nothing else, shouldn't it exist to provide things
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The purpose of the federal government is outlined for us by the framers.
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It is, quote, to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility,
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provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of
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You say, well, getting free health care, that would benefit my general welfare.
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But the trouble is health care never gets so expensive as when it's free.
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So there have been many experiments in socialist health care throughout the world, and it creates
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We have the best health care system in the world in this country.
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When all the rich people in the world want to get good health care, they don't do it in
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They come to the United States for it because we have the best.
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And because we're innovators, all of the other countries actually benefit from our innovation.
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The trouble with socialized medicine, too, is that it dramatically decreases liberty.
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In this country, we have a second amendment to protect your life and liberty and pursuit
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Our government actually tells you, you get to keep a gun so that you can shoot us if we
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Socialist health care puts your life in the hands of the government.
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Your very health care, your medicine, your doctor visits, your surgery is in the hands
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That is a lot of power that not even a gun can protect against.
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This is why in all of the countries with socialist health care, there are long, long waits to
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I went down to Cuba last June, and I got to talk to some people in Cuba.
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And one of them pointed out to me and said, that's the big, famous national hospital.
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And they send their doctors abroad and everything.
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And my pal in Cuba turned to me and he said, yeah, yeah, anybody can walk in.
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There won't be any medicine, but anybody can walk in.
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And you have to bring your own toilet paper and your own food and sometimes your own needles.
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And what really happens in that country and in a lot of socialist countries is that there
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are private back doors so that people can actually get the medicine they need.
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So there's every person with any money who cares about their health in the UK also has
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And in Cuba, they just pay doctors on the side.
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All serious health care in Cuba is taken care of on the black market and people pay for it
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because that's the way to get the best care at the lowest price.
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Socialist medicine, in a way that is unacceptable, intolerable, abridges our liberty.
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It also makes the cost of health care increase dramatically.
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It also makes the quality of care decrease dramatically.
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Doesn't promote my general welfare, I don't think.
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Hey, Michael, I'm a college sophomore and one of the classes I'm taking is basically
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It's probably all of the classes you're taking.
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For example, last week our classes were about the myth of meritocracy and white male privilege.
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These people genuinely hate and look down on the idea of individualism and being able
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to improve the circumstances in your life through your own effort.
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They really believe that we live in a society that only benefits rich, white, straight, and
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It seems like a very dangerous ideology to buy into because they're obsessed with their
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Also, are there any books or articles that you would recommend for me?
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Ideology in general isn't something that we should look toward or that we should embrace,
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We are the only society, we in the West, that hates itself, especially America.
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And, you know, on history we are also the most frequently wrong and least often in doubt.
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You don't see a lot of countries and a lot of places around the world hate themselves.
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And whereas other societies, we're told, we have to judge them by their best moments.
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So they always say in the West, they say, well, you know, there was the Spanish Inquisition
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Mind you, they don't know anything about either of those two events, both of which are entirely
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But then they'll say, oh, but the Muslim civilization, they had Andalusia, didn't they?
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They had, oh, isn't that, they only talk about these fine moments.
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And they say, oh, well, when Muslim terrorists blow up all of our cities in the West, that
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That has nothing to do with their civilization.
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And yet they're holding us accountable for a crusade that happened 800 years ago, which
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The way to avoid this and to avoid this awful ideology is to read the originals.
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The reason that your class seems like a crash course in postmodernism is this awful trend
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in liberal education where no longer are we reading the people that we're reading.
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No longer are we reading the great books, Aristotle and Plato and Cicero and Thucydides and all
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We're reading books about those books and books about those people.
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And it's what Harold Bloom calls the school of resentment.
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It's books trying to take it apart, trying to deconstruct all that and tell you why it's
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Forget that nonsense and that stupid ideological lens.
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Read the originals and you'll get a much better view of things.
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My Lord Knowles, if I may post a query to you that has been causing me great anguish and
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many sleepless nights, it would bring me joy to my heart and solace to my immortal soul
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Why can't someone who murders a pregnant woman be charged with two counts of murder?
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While abortionists are paid to legally commit one of those murders, often with our tax dollars
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via Medicaid, do our friends on the left ever acknowledge this obvious moral and legal
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Also, if abortion were made illegal by a clear law or constitutional amendment, would you support
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murder charges for doctors who continue this barbaric practice?
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Yeah, there is a willful ignorance, I think, on the lefties who want to square that circle.
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I do understand how someone could honestly support abortion and not think that it's murder.
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And the way that they could do that is by saying, it's not murder.
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It's unfair that women have this particular issue and men don't have that and that's unfair.
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And there's this scene in the movie, too, and in the book, where they're talking, the
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people, these automatons in this utopian society without any history, they kill babies.
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They kill what they consider to be defective babies.
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And you see, I remember in the movie, you see the person look and say, oh my, how are they
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And they say, they don't know they're doing it.
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As for murder charges for abortionists, yeah, if it were against the law, if there were a
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constitutional amendment defining the beginning of life or acknowledging the beginning of
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life or a law or something, not only would I support murder charges for those people breaking
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the law and committing murder according to the law, everyone would have to support that,
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Basically, the law is defining this as murder or as morally similar to murder.
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If that is how the law is defining it, you would have to support law enforcement.
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And the reason that it's important to bring this up is this is like the Dred Scott decision.
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This is why the abortion issue is a lot like the slavery issue.
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The central premise for the American nation is natural rights.
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So the Dred Scott decision is actually a great decision.
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It's the wrong decision, but it throws the issue into stark relief, which is freed blacks
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can't become American citizens if there is slavery that is tolerated in the country.
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The country is premised on natural rights, that we're endowed by our creator with natural
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rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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So either blacks have natural rights or they don't have natural rights.
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If they do have natural rights, you can't tolerate slavery.
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If they don't have natural rights, then they could never attain to American citizenship,
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Either human life is sacred from the beginning.
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Either humans have dignity from the beginning or they don't.
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And if they don't have dignity from the beginning, then when do you get it?
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I don't know, maybe around 27 or something, 29.
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Oh, if they're missing a couple limbs, they don't get dignity.
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Oh, no, when you're sleeping, you lose your dignity.
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They either have rights to liberty or they don't.
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And so by throwing that into stark relief, I think you'd end up with a logically necessary conclusion.
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I have been dating sweet little Elisa since before these apps were necessary.
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They're Catholic, Jewish, gay, straight, polygamous, I think.
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I'm glad Catholic Match sounds like a good one as far as they go.
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Where we can compare our temperaments with those of other subscribers.
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Should I look for someone with a similar temperament to mine?
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Or should I look for someone with an opposing temperament who can balance out my negative traits?
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I think you should look for someone who has a similar outlook and different temperament.
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Who sees the world with similar premises but has a different temperament.
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And it's because men and women are not supposed to be the same.
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If they were the same, we wouldn't have two words for it.
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I can say from personal experience, sweet little Elisa has in many ways a different temperament than I do.
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And does balance out a lot of things and gives me another perspective.
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You don't want someone who sees the world fundamentally different than you do.
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That's just, you need to begin from the same place and you'll disagree and you'll compliment one another.
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But I do think it's much easier if you, for instance, you don't need to date someone who's conservative.
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But you might want to date someone who is dispositionally conservative.
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You know, who has a kind of, a small C or something like that.
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Hearing what Juanita said about Bill telling her not to worry.
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That he was sterile proved what I said all along about him not being Chelsea's father.
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His medical records were never released and I knew it was to hide something like that.
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My brother and I were roundly criticized for making that claim.
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Hill and he were tight at the law firm she worked in.
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Just a little too soon, like so many people she and Bill know.
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May her book sell multiple millions of copies and bring you all, bring all you little crumb
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catchers, crumb crunchers up to speed on how evil these people are.
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She was absolutely correct that the atmosphere that existed at that time, victims didn't
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The perps got away with it and became further emboldened because we didn't speak up.
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To begin on this, it is a wise child that knows his own father.
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To quote Telemachus regarding his, ostensibly his father, Odysseus.
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Lying is like the defining feature of Bill Clinton.
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So here's the trouble with the Bill isn't Chelsea's father story.
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If I don't hear from the Clintons ever again in my life, that's fine by me.
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But, in so much as we're talking about it, the thing we're basing Bill not being Chelsea's
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father on is something that Bill told the woman that he just raped.
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And Bill Clinton, the biggest liar, telling a woman that he just violated as he's saying
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So even if Bill were telling Juanita Broderick the truth, we just can't take his word for
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I mean, it's, you know, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton is a liar.
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So actually his telling Juanita Broderick that he was sterile makes me almost certain
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So her father might be like some alien from outer space for all I know.
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From Kelly, Knowles, you are incrementally converting my husband to Catholicism.
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But in all seriousness, my husband and I are evangelical Christians.
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Last night we had a long talk about whether or not we should move to Catholicism because
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I had Peter Kreeft as a philosophy professor in college, and he explained to us that he
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converted to Catholicism because for him the choice was life or death.
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I took this seriously and do not feel that I am incomplete without the Catholic faith,
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Does this seem accurate to you, or is this position more extreme than is warranted?
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The latter, it's more extreme than is warranted.
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I'm very pleased to hear, though, that you're considering coming on over.
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You know, I also, when I reverted to Christianity, I read a lot of Protestants, and it was in many
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ways Protestants who pulled me closer, and then I went whole hog into the church universal.
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To paraphrase an Orthodox Jewish friend of mine, to the problem with your dilemma here, theology
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There's some guy I know who wanders around the halls here who says something similar to
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I'm reading a book right now that, coincidentally, Drew Clavin also happens to be rereading by
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a philosopher named Alistair MacIntyre called After Virtue.
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And in it, MacIntyre correctly identifies emotivism as the dominant moral framework of our age.
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It's the feelings of the facts don't care about your feelings, right?
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In some ways, it's the facts, too, but that's for another episode.
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It's the idea that ethical and value judgments aren't really statements of fact.
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Murder is wrong isn't really a statement of fact, but rather they're merely expressions
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I say murder is wonderful and fun and exhilarating.
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So the emotivist says when we say things like murder is wrong, what we're really just doing
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is using a rhetorical technique to mask what are nothing more than our individual preferences.
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Here's how this ties in to Christianity in America and Catholicism.
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It seems quite clear to me that in America, it is the individualistic character of Protestantism
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that has brought emotivism to the forefront of popular culture, this feelings-based pseudo-moral
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MacIntyre coincidentally agrees with this, actually, as do a great many other observers
00:42:10.520
of cultural and intellectual history that we on the right all love, Jacques Borgeson
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This is why so many Protestant churches keep changing their minds on foundational moral issues,
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not just among the countless evangelical churches, but even mainline Protestant churches, huge
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Within the Presbyterian Church in America, the Episcopal Church.
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MacIntyre, I'll also point out, converted to Catholicism not long after he wrote his book
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fairly shortly afterward in a way that's reminiscent of G.K. Chesterton, who took a little bit longer
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but also converted to Catholicism after writing Orthodoxy.
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Our wives were dorm mates back in the day, and I was wondering if you would help spread the word about a piece of
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compromise legislation I'm hoping to make catch on to shift the gun control bait in our favor.
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I do remember her, and I remember hearing about you, and so thanks for watching the show.
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I won't say your names or what you do because I don't want your association with The Daily Wire
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You don't want your boss to find out you subscribe, but very nice to hear from you.
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The founders were clear that arms and common use should be available to the public.
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I propose to restrict access to the purchase of all semi-automatic firearms to the age of 25
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when the brain has fully developed, as with rental car purchases,
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unless having completed a weapons safety course as the Canadians require.
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I've been calling it the well-regulated militia bill because the extra training is the desired outcome
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The second part of this bill would be the concealed carry reciprocity
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P.S. Get Jeff Durbin on your show to help set your heretical ways straight.
00:44:05.380
You know, Jeff sounds like a perfectly nice guy and everything,
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but whenever I want a Protestant to come on this show and punish me for my potpourri,
00:44:12.660
I usually call Allie Stuckey because that's the closest that I ever get to Fifty Shades of Grey,
00:44:21.840
There is no constitutional right to rent a car.
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That's why companies can restrict it to 25, although some don't.
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There's a great company called Rent-A-Wreck, which rents to people below 25.
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A lot of states like my own already restrict handgun ownership to age 21 and above.
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The vast majority of gun deaths are from handguns,
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though, of course, two-thirds of those are just suicides.
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They're suicide by middle-aged men well over 21, double 21, triple 21.
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The media make hay about semi-automatic rifles,
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but there is no crisis or epidemic in America on this.
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Semi-automatic rifles are involved in a relatively small number of homicides each year.
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Mass shootings have been on a steep decline since the early 1990s,
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as have school shootings, despite what the media would tell you.
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The mainstream media pretend there is a crisis,
00:45:12.660
that these shootings and these deaths are increasing,
00:45:15.120
that semi-automatic rifles are the cause because they want to take away your guns.
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The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect liberty.
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When the zombie apocalypse strikes, young men are going to be doing the fighting,
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so they probably should have some experience with guns.
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As for the suggestion that they can bump the age back down
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if they just take some safety course or take some gun shoot marksman course,
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I actually don't see the logic of that because what we're saying is that
00:45:45.580
the only way that potential mass shooters can get guns
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But I don't want to teach them how to shoot them better.
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I would much rather they be bad shots and not clean their guns
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I think we should bar those people from taking safety courses.
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Largely, the mainstream media premises just aren't true.
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What we have done for the last 10 years is working.
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Democrats always lose elections when they harp on gun control.
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and the guns that they want to ban are not the issue.
00:46:30.300
As for concealed carry reciprocity for honorably discharged vets,
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From Nathan, future St. Michael, how much more time do we have?
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but I want to give you a chance to answer a question that doesn't have to do with Catholicism.
00:46:56.180
My wife had a traumatic brain injury 13 years ago.
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She's physically fine, but her communication ability is severely impaired.
00:47:05.200
She receives federal disability benefits, probably will for the rest of her life unless entitlement rules change.
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In the early years of her receiving benefits, they were a great help to us.
00:47:14.600
But as my own salary has grown, the benefits are no longer critical to our financial well-being.
00:47:19.040
It's not a lot of money, but it does give us some breathing room in our budget.
00:47:24.640
Even if she never had the injury, by this point in her life,
00:47:27.880
she would most likely not be working outside the home in order to raise our children.
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In principle, we think a safety net is an okay idea, but only in a society with a flat tax.
00:47:35.760
In our opinion, the current tax and entitlement arrangement is a transfer of wealth
00:47:41.180
So my question is, how do we justify receiving benefits from an entitlement program we disagree with?
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The ever-expanding entitlement programs are a huge problem.
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Even if we are legally entitled to the current benefits we receive.
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What are your thoughts on this ethical dilemma?
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We will always vote in ways that would reduce entitlement spending,
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but should my wife voluntarily discontinue the benefit?
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Also, since we have children, this is no longer a question that only involves us.
00:48:06.620
Turning down money could be irresponsible on our part.
00:48:12.900
because every passing day that Ben has not fired you is another miracle.
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To your question, it's not an ethical dilemma at all.
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I don't think it's even close to an ethical dilemma.
00:48:32.720
You're probably a better man for agonizing over this, but no, it isn't at all.
00:48:38.200
Do you pay taxes to support entitlement programs that you disagree with?
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You're taking the money because you're entitled to it.
00:48:47.240
The problem with entitlements is not that people aren't entitled to it.
00:48:50.000
It's that people are entitled to it, and the spending gets out of control.
00:48:54.880
That isn't going to do anything, because then you're just paying into it.
00:48:57.920
You're going to continue to pay and fund these programs for other people to take out.
00:49:02.520
I promise you that, and the problem still won't be solved.
00:49:06.620
This is a tactic of the left they do somewhat frequently.
00:49:09.220
They try, because we have standards, and they have nothing but double standards.
00:49:15.860
They say you have to live up to that standard, even if the framework of the country, even
00:49:22.560
But you should do it anyway, and it's of no benefit to anybody.
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Take the benefit and continue to vote for entitlement reform.
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I'm not sure if this would even affect, really, your family's situation here, but we do need
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Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security reform.
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That's not going to happen, because you punish yourself and your family, and decide not to
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I understand the feeling that you don't like taking money from the government, but that's
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what's so insidious, is we live in a country with this massive expanding entitlement program.
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The problem is that we have a massive entitlement program.
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Don't create separate rules for you that other people don't have to follow.
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Make sure over the weekend that you listen to Another Kingdom, Andrew Klavan's narrative
00:50:18.900
You can binge the whole thing, all 13 episodes.
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And by we, I mean Drew is writing it, and I am smoking cigars and drinking.
00:50:31.880
I am smoking a lot of cigars and drinking a lot.
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