The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 118 - National Women For Trump Day! ft. Tana Goertz

00:00:00.360 Happy National Women for Trump Day.

00:00:03.240 We are going to be joined by a wonderful national woman for Trump, Tana Gertz.

00:00:07.840 Tana is a businesswoman, television star of The Apprentice, and senior advisor and spokesman

00:00:12.560 for the Trump 2016 and 2020 campaigns.

00:00:15.760 Tana led President Trump's campaign efforts in Iowa, which he won despite the state going

00:00:20.960 twice in a row for Barack Obama.

00:00:23.000 We will discuss the campaign, staff shakeups, and Republican chances in the next election.

00:00:27.680 Then, my favorite international women, and finally, the mailbag. 1.00

00:00:31.760 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:28.720 Happy International Women's Day, everybody.

00:03:31.000 You know, sometimes on this show, I'll admit, I can be a little bit dismissive of hashtag

00:03:36.200 activism, this day, that day, Kony 2012, Je suis Charlie, that sort of thing.

00:03:42.740 So instead today, in the spirit of International Women's Day, I will name just a few of my

00:03:48.540 favorite international women.

00:03:51.440 Jewish.

00:03:52.960 Jewish women, I really like.

00:03:55.080 Obviously, for obvious reasons.

00:03:57.880 English women are great because they have that cute little accent. 1.00

00:04:01.940 And also, don't let anybody tell you that English cooking is no good.

00:04:05.100 A nice slice of beef wellington with that flaky little dough, mm-mm-mm.

00:04:09.840 There are a few things better.

00:04:10.720 And then, of course, the third, Brazilian. 0.94

00:04:13.700 Brazilian women, because they're tall and tan and young and lovely. 1.00

00:04:17.820 The girl from Ipanema goes walking, and when she passes, each one she passes goes, ah.

00:04:28.740 There you have it, my favorite international women. 0.97

00:04:31.520 That's a really wonderful way to start the day.

00:04:33.360 Happy International Women's Day, everybody.

00:04:35.540 This is the top hashtag on Twitter.

00:04:37.460 I'm sure you've seen it.

00:04:38.320 Of course, nobody knows anything about the day.

00:04:40.740 You just see these things on Twitter.

00:04:41.840 You say, oh, yeah, it's International what-and-what day.

00:04:44.020 Okay, great.

00:04:44.520 Yeah, okay.

00:04:45.300 Well, what is the history of this?

00:04:46.840 As with most things that begin with the word international, International Women's Day is

00:04:51.280 socialist nonsense. 0.85

00:04:52.640 And it's particularly nefarious socialist nonsense, but we'll get to why later. 0.95

00:04:56.620 It changed the 20th century in some ways, so it's really bad.

00:05:00.140 The first National Women's Day was held in 1909 in New York.

00:05:04.800 Guess who organized it?

00:05:06.200 The Socialist Party of America.

00:05:07.920 Not surprising.

00:05:08.900 In 1910, the International Socialist Women's Conference created International Women's Day,

00:05:13.780 finally, one year after New York's.

00:05:16.920 Following the October Revolution in 1917, Vladimir Lenin made it a national holiday in the Soviet

00:05:24.180 Union.

00:05:25.000 He made International Women's Day a national holiday.

00:05:27.080 I wonder why communist thugs made International Women's Day a national holiday. 0.88

00:05:31.280 It's because on International Women's Day, on March 8th in 1917, an international women's

00:05:37.620 demonstration actually started the Russian Revolution.

00:05:41.140 It started the communist revolution that just destroyed the 20th century.

00:05:45.700 It's a true story.

00:05:46.580 A protest of women textile workers in Petrograd took place.

00:05:51.060 This is commonly cited as the inciting incident of the Russian Revolution.

00:05:55.620 Trotsky admitted, Leon Trotsky admitted that he'd helped plan the protest, but even he

00:06:00.900 was surprised at how widespread its effects were.

00:06:03.400 He wrote, quote, meetings and actions were foreseen, but we did not imagine that this Women's

00:06:08.080 Day would inaugurate the revolution.

00:06:10.180 But it did, right from the horse's mouth, right from that communist horse's mouth. 0.81

00:06:14.560 The holiday, International Women's Day, was celebrated almost exclusively by communist countries and

00:06:20.460 socialist activists until 1975 when it was adopted by the United Nations.

00:06:25.300 But maybe that wasn't very much of a change, was it?

00:06:27.180 Maybe there's a lot of continuity there.

00:06:29.400 Enough about International Women's Day.

00:06:31.480 On to a serious matter.

00:06:33.840 American Women for Donald Trump.

00:06:36.320 American Women for Trump Day.

00:06:37.400 For that, we spoke yesterday with Tana Gertz.

00:06:40.240 Tana is the former star of The Apprentice, senior advisor to President Trump's 2016 and

00:06:44.720 2020 campaigns.

00:06:46.000 Let's bring her on. 1.00

00:06:47.500 Tana, thank you for being here.

00:06:49.740 Thanks for having me.

00:06:50.940 So you led the Trump campaign efforts in Iowa, which President Trump won in 2016.

00:06:56.320 And it was a big win because Barack Obama won that state in both 2008 and 2012.

00:07:02.000 How did you and he do it?

00:07:04.440 Wow.

00:07:04.840 Well, hard work, that's for sure.

00:07:07.160 We worked so, so hard.

00:07:09.460 We left no stone unturned.

00:07:12.000 It really, really came down to we needed to educate the people of Iowa about this man.

00:07:18.620 And in Iowa, we don't have real stars because we don't have professional teams like a lot

00:07:23.900 of states do.

00:07:24.700 So they're not used to having celebrities like Donald Trump come into town and take over.

00:07:30.120 And so it was just, it was a process of sort of teetering back and forth with, you are this

00:07:36.300 huge star, but we're going to just water it down for a little bit until they get to love you.

00:07:39.940 Then we'll show them really what you're capable of.

00:07:42.420 And so I've known him very, for a couple of, well, almost a little over a decade.

00:07:47.440 So I knew how to strategize that relationship with him because I went from being unknown,

00:07:55.380 an unknown Iowan, to being on his show, then being unknown Iowan.

00:07:59.820 And I know how I had to tread a little lightly because they don't really, you know, they're

00:08:04.620 not used to that.

00:08:05.780 Right.

00:08:06.020 And that, that's so interesting.

00:08:07.440 Your experience of him probably made it so much easier for the campaign to work.

00:08:12.280 I see in campaigns all the time, they bring in the professional crew from DC, the whole

00:08:16.920 consultant class.

00:08:18.460 And usually, usually those guys are full of it.

00:08:20.540 I mean, they don't know anything about the district.

00:08:23.560 Right.

00:08:24.620 No, they don't have a clue.

00:08:26.260 Actually, that's what happened originally, where, you know, let's come on in and the bravado

00:08:31.840 of Trump and, and all this and all that, and bringing the bells and the whistles.

00:08:35.840 But at the end of the day, no, we need to tread lightly, then we'll amplify it.

00:08:39.640 So it was, it was a process, but, but regardless of all of that, that was just a small part of

00:08:45.340 it.

00:08:45.780 What my role was, cause I had, I don't have a political bone in my body.

00:08:49.840 I don't have a gene.

00:08:51.180 My parents weren't, you know, political junkies.

00:08:53.840 So this was a decision that I had to make deciding, do I want to walk into this arena that

00:09:00.680 I'm not interested in, never had an interest in, but I want to make history with this man.

00:09:05.420 And I know I can sell them to the American people, not only the people of Iowa.

00:09:10.000 So I had to say, you know, I'm going to approach this like it's a business.

00:09:13.700 And that's exactly what I did.

00:09:15.420 So I more or less said to all those political, what they thought were gurus, move over.

00:09:20.720 Cause I'm coming in and there's a new sheriff in town and I know this man and you don't.

00:09:24.860 That's probably why you were successful.

00:09:26.420 I'm sure of it because I've seen it on the races that win are the ones where the, the

00:09:31.600 operatives and the workers know the candidate.

00:09:34.960 They know the district there.

00:09:36.420 The idea of a political guru, I think it's totally nonsense.

00:09:39.480 And you say you never worked on a political campaign in any capacity.

00:09:43.260 So what made you jump on Trump 2016?

00:09:46.420 Why Donald Trump?

00:09:47.920 Well, I was on his show.

00:09:49.500 And so the only reason is because I knew him, I knew what he was capable of.

00:09:53.800 It'd be like your, your best friend, somebody going, do you think Michael could, you know,

00:09:57.560 do you think Michael could make that call or, or what?

00:10:00.100 And they're like, oh my gosh, like I know this man so well, of course.

00:10:03.820 So you were a true believer.

00:10:05.040 You really thought he was the solution to America's problems.

00:10:08.160 Let me tell you what, the minute he came down that escalator, I said, it's over.

00:10:12.280 Like he's our next president.

00:10:14.000 I bet the farm and literally I won.

00:10:17.800 I won huge because I knew he was capable of it because I'd seen him in his boardroom.

00:10:23.700 I'd seen him with his employees.

00:10:25.180 I seen him with his family.

00:10:26.880 I know him, stayed in touch with him.

00:10:29.140 I know how smart he is.

00:10:30.480 I know what an executor is.

00:10:32.140 He is.

00:10:32.740 I knew everything that I needed to know to say, hey, do I want to put my professional

00:10:37.920 speaking career on hold and my business coaching career on hold?

00:10:41.300 Oh, and my little radio show on hold to go make history with the president of the United

00:10:45.380 States.

00:10:45.980 Duh.

00:10:46.360 Of course I do.

00:10:47.380 And then I knew if I could get him the win in Iowa, well, first off, he told me I have

00:10:53.140 to win Iowa or I will not be the next president.

00:10:55.600 And I knew if I got him the win here, I'd have a Trump card forever.

00:10:59.740 Right.

00:11:00.380 Pun intended.

00:11:01.720 Pun intended.

00:11:02.660 Yeah.

00:11:03.740 That, you know, it is a huge accomplishment.

00:11:07.620 Iowa is the state.

00:11:08.860 You got to win Iowa.

00:11:10.080 And what I really like about your story is that you've known this guy for a long time

00:11:15.940 because it seems to me there's this extremely tedious debate started by Trump's critics on

00:11:21.760 the right, really, over whether Donald Trump is a complete nincompoop. 0.99

00:11:25.620 He's a total dolt as the never Trump crowd disingenuously mocks. 1.00

00:11:29.560 He, he's playing 4D chess. 1.00

00:11:31.760 Those are the two options.

00:11:33.300 The, the, his critics on the right, they say he's either adult or he's playing 12D dimensional

00:11:38.240 chess.

00:11:38.760 I, for one, don't think it's either.

00:11:41.020 And I am a Trump supporter and I don't know any Trump supporter who thinks he's playing

00:11:44.560 12D chess.

00:11:45.400 I just think he's quite good at the media.

00:11:47.160 And I suspect that the guy who has remained relevant for 40 years and succeeded at the

00:11:52.180 highest levels of four extremely competitive industries might be smarter than your average

00:11:57.040 schlub.

00:11:57.760 You have known him for a long time.

00:11:59.620 How would you describe the man personally?

00:12:03.520 He, he's actually the smartest man that I know.

00:12:05.980 And my husband follows right underneath that.

00:12:08.320 And my husband's a scientist, graduated magna cum laude at Florida state.

00:12:12.560 He's a meteorologist.

00:12:13.700 Brilliant.

00:12:13.960 So when I say he's, Trump is the smartest man I know, I'm, I'm, that's not, uh, throwing

00:12:20.020 that around lightly.

00:12:20.800 He is three steps ahead of everyone.

00:12:23.660 Uh, he, he predicts what's coming.

00:12:26.000 Like all these, I was on TV.

00:12:27.760 I can't tell you how many times defending his quote, conspiracy theory.

00:12:31.740 And I'm like, Oh, imagine that that came to fruition.

00:12:34.640 Right.

00:12:35.160 About the FBI, you mean about the Obama administration using the government to attack his political

00:12:40.780 opponent.

00:12:41.460 Yeah.

00:12:41.880 I mean, everything.

00:12:42.820 It was like, Michael, it went back to back to back.

00:12:45.220 Like, do you think that, you know, he was taped wire taped?

00:12:48.720 Do you think this, do you think everything that he said?

00:12:51.260 And they said they, they killed me for on national television.

00:12:54.500 And I'm like, no, honestly, it'll come to fruition.

00:12:57.160 It does.

00:12:57.900 So he's not only the smartest man that I know, but he works so hard.

00:13:02.660 And the other thing that I love about him is he does his homework.

00:13:06.380 So if he was going to be on an interview with you, he would know everything about you.

00:13:11.560 He would know where you're from, where you live.

00:13:14.180 If you're single, if you, uh, if you, I mean, he'd know everything about you.

00:13:18.100 So he'd come into my state and he'd be like, okay, so who am I going to see here today?

00:13:22.280 And I'd be like, oh, you're going to meet with, um, governor Branstad.

00:13:25.420 And he'd be like, oh, oh yeah.

00:13:26.660 Yeah.

00:13:26.840 He really likes China.

00:13:27.920 Right.

00:13:28.500 Okay.

00:13:28.860 And what else, what else about him?

00:13:30.720 And he, he's done his homework.

00:13:32.080 And the thing else that I love about him is I would also give him cliff notes, literally

00:13:37.800 on a back of a business card, this, do this, do that, watch the swear words, uh, this, that

00:13:44.520 and, and literally, and I go, oh, and here was another thing I was on his plane with him

00:13:48.620 once.

00:13:48.860 And he told me that he spends, uh, it was, I believe 10 or excuse me, $15 million on John

00:13:55.380 Deere equipment for his golf courses.

00:13:57.080 And I'm like, oh my gosh.

00:13:58.420 Okay.

00:13:58.680 Stop right there.

00:13:59.520 This is agri land, right?

00:14:01.380 You got to say that out there at that rally, the place will go nuts.

00:14:04.620 And he's like, okay.

00:14:05.520 And he trusts me because I'd never blow them up.

00:14:07.980 Right.

00:14:08.740 And he gets out there and he goes, y'all like John Deere and the place.

00:14:13.200 And he's like, well, you know, I spend $15 million in John Deere equipment.

00:14:17.560 The place went crazy.

00:14:18.700 Guess what?

00:14:19.760 Like overnight, I started farmers for Trump.

00:14:22.060 We had, we had so many men juiced up about the fact that he spends all that money on John

00:14:26.660 Deere because he, you know, he trusted me.

00:14:30.020 I told him to say it.

00:14:30.960 He did his homework and, and that's the thing.

00:14:33.600 I mean, he's not only super smart, he works super hard.

00:14:36.600 He puts in the time and he really wants to make a difference.

00:14:40.600 And the other thing that I love about him that maybe nobody has figured out yet is, and

00:14:46.300 I've learned this being a nobody and then becoming famous because of the show, The Apprentice.

00:14:51.440 If the media doesn't make you, the media can't break you.

00:14:56.360 Right.

00:14:56.600 And guess what?

00:14:57.360 The media never made Donald Trump.

00:15:00.000 So there's no way they're going to take him down.

00:15:02.340 He made him himself. 1.00

00:15:03.740 All the schmucks that were never known. 0.99

00:15:07.820 And you can even, you know, put me in that category. 0.99

00:15:10.240 Media is never going to break me. 0.99

00:15:11.320 I would never call you a schmuck, Tana. 0.99

00:15:12.800 No way. 0.99

00:15:14.020 Thank you.

00:15:14.520 No way.

00:15:14.840 Like, you know, some of these, some of these people who were on the campaign that were

00:15:18.500 just taking a paycheck, didn't even probably vote for the man. 0.61

00:15:21.280 And I also told him about all those losers, you know, took a paycheck, didn't even care 0.96

00:15:26.940 about him, didn't even work their butt off for him, probably didn't even vote for him. 0.97

00:15:30.800 Just another job.

00:15:32.220 Just another job.

00:15:33.320 Don't care.

00:15:34.060 You know, chalk it in halfway, you know, cash it in, do the lazy man way out or whatever.

00:15:38.720 They're on CNN every night trying to get their, keep their 15 minutes of fame.

00:15:42.880 Well, guess what?

00:15:43.820 The media will put them on, let them implode themselves.

00:15:46.680 And now, oh boy, now they're spiraling out of control because why?

00:15:50.640 The media built them.

00:15:51.820 That's right.

00:15:52.560 You know, this reminds me of an Andrew Klavan quote about Donald Trump, which is he who

00:15:57.600 Donald Trump would destroy.

00:15:58.940 He first makes mad, you know, and he does seem, they do seem to all just blow up and spiral

00:16:03.360 down and on the hard work, you know, this, especially leading the efforts in Iowa.

00:16:08.380 If anybody's worked on any political campaign before, I've worked on a lot at all different

00:16:13.280 levels, even if you're working on a dog catcher campaign, it is exhausting, grueling, thankless

00:16:18.940 work.

00:16:19.340 And to watch Donald Trump at the highest level and with unprecedented in modern history,

00:16:26.720 unprecedented opposition, do it with a grin, do it with that kind of Trumpian smirk and

00:16:32.100 seem to have inexhaustible stores of energy.

00:16:35.060 It really makes you question all of these news reports on CNN that he isn't in good

00:16:39.860 health or he's rambling or senile or whatever nonsense that they also said about Ronald Reagan.

00:16:46.300 Right.

00:16:46.740 It's so true. 0.84

00:16:47.620 Let me tell you what, when we were towards the end and I knew, I mean, I knew he was going

00:16:51.920 to win this.

00:16:52.440 When he became the candidate and we went to the convention, I was like, oh my God, like

00:16:57.100 that, the RNC convention was unbelievable.

00:16:59.640 His family was so amazing.

00:17:01.740 He was so amazing.

00:17:03.060 And then when I knew like, oh my gosh, this is, this is in the bag.

00:17:07.520 We were wrapping up like Iowa and we had maybe three rallies in one day all across the state.

00:17:13.300 So we were flying in, in Trump force one and we were so hungry.

00:17:17.360 I mean, I, I know all I had to do was get people there, get volunteers there, hype up the

00:17:22.820 crowd and hand the mic over to the star.

00:17:24.760 And he wowed everybody.

00:17:26.080 Right.

00:17:26.320 So my energy was on a 10, his was on a 12.

00:17:30.000 I only had to do, you know, maybe five minutes where he had to do an hour.

00:17:33.360 We get on the plane. 0.99

00:17:34.680 All's I wanted was that damn Big Mac that he was putting in front of me. 0.99

00:17:38.000 And you know what? 0.99

00:17:39.200 Everybody gives him a hard time about the Big Mac.

00:17:41.320 I'm like, you're so hungry.

00:17:43.300 You've exhausted all of, you want to eat your Big Mac and your fries and you just want people 0.76

00:17:47.880 to just shut up and let you eat. 0.55

00:17:49.340 So this man is taking grief about eating Big Macs. 0.99

00:17:52.620 He's working his butt off.

00:17:53.920 He is putting us like, I mean, he's got a couple of decades on me.

00:17:57.660 I got three decades on some of these kids that are in the campaign that are just like,

00:18:02.660 what the hell's going on?

00:18:03.780 And I'm like, get out of the way. 0.95

00:18:04.940 Cause this man's blowing people down and we're going to take this all the way to the white 0.98

00:18:09.420 house.

00:18:10.080 More energy than even me.

00:18:11.880 And I just looked at him like, I know what it's like being a professional speaker.

00:18:16.280 When you get on that stage and you see your crowd, man, you just, you light up and it's

00:18:22.460 not work.

00:18:24.360 You're absolutely right.

00:18:25.720 And I want to know how you think that's translating to 2020.

00:18:29.360 You're on the campaign in 2020.

00:18:31.080 Clearly you think he's doing a good job in office.

00:18:33.260 I also think he's doing a good job.

00:18:35.340 What do you think the people of Iowa will think?

00:18:37.560 Has he lived up to his promises?

00:18:39.020 Has he lived up to expectations or are they going to go for him in 2020 at this?

00:18:43.260 Obviously I know it's early on, but at this rate, are they going to go for him?

00:18:47.680 They are.

00:18:48.220 You know why their 401ks are growing.

00:18:50.980 He's promises made promises kept.

00:18:53.240 I keep saying that when we were, when he just came out to Iowa recently, the bottom of the

00:18:58.800 stage, big sign promises made promises kept.

00:19:01.820 And he's telling them, this is what I've done.

00:19:04.240 I've told you farmers, I wasn't going to do this.

00:19:06.100 I told you I was going to save the renewable fuel standard.

00:19:09.020 I told you this.

00:19:09.760 I told you that.

00:19:10.540 And it's all about like, he's keeping his promises.

00:19:14.000 We love the fact that we, we have more money in our 401ks and in our, our pocketbooks, bank

00:19:19.600 accounts.

00:19:20.400 Also, what about jobs?

00:19:22.360 You know, like what about the jobs that he's bringing back to America?

00:19:27.800 He is like standing up for us.

00:19:30.040 And we needed somebody who, uh, had a set that, you know, could say like, Hey man, guess

00:19:35.480 what?

00:19:35.900 No more.

00:19:37.200 It's funny.

00:19:38.020 We're not going to be taken advantage of.

00:19:39.520 It's funny because those who are, have been in the conservative movement a long time or worked

00:19:44.580 down a lot of campaigns or just have their heads in politics.

00:19:47.020 We think, Oh man, Trump has been great.

00:19:49.320 We've gotten all these, uh, originalist judges on the courts.

00:19:52.400 We've gotten deregulation at this agency and a pivot at this agency and do, do, do, do,

00:19:57.340 do, do.

00:19:57.660 But for, I think a lot of Americans, what it, it's, as James Carville said, it's the 1.00

00:20:02.180 economy stupid. 0.99

00:20:02.840 And what it comes down to is this guy is a pro growth president. 1.00

00:20:07.120 He's a guy who's going to deregulate.

00:20:08.840 He's going to, to do what works for the American economy.

00:20:12.080 And he's going to prioritize not what kinds of bathrooms people have to use in this state

00:20:18.260 or this.

00:20:18.800 He's going to focus on what Americans care about, which is how their wallets are doing,

00:20:23.140 how they, what they, how much disposable income they have to spend on their families

00:20:26.940 and to plan for their future.

00:20:28.780 And also, Michael, one other thing I'm going to add is, uh, he also wants to keep America

00:20:33.980 safe.

00:20:34.500 And that was a huge, huge point for a lot of women. 0.99

00:20:38.300 And I started up the women for Trump coalition here in Iowa and women wanted to know, like,

00:20:43.920 I don't need to worry that somebody is going to come.

00:20:46.140 ISIS is going to come and steal my kids and hurt my family. 1.00

00:20:49.540 And so safety.

00:20:50.660 And that's another thing that, you know, he is, he's not going to back down.

00:20:54.440 And anybody that thinks that president Trump is going anywhere is sadly mistaken.

00:20:59.040 If anybody thinks that president Trump is going to weaken or kind of get worn out, he's

00:21:04.320 not, he's Teflon Don is what I call him, you know, just rolls right off of his back.

00:21:09.520 And, and you know what?

00:21:10.720 It's kind of, he's kind of like, I'm the same way.

00:21:12.800 If somebody wants to say, yeah, I don't know, Tana, if you could do it.

00:21:16.180 Oh, really?

00:21:17.080 To me, that's a dare.

00:21:18.980 Right.

00:21:19.240 Yeah.

00:21:19.540 Tell me I won't.

00:21:21.220 Right.

00:21:21.520 Tell me I won't.

00:21:22.620 And I will show you that I will.

00:21:24.820 And so it's going well.

00:21:26.600 People are really excited about him.

00:21:28.720 They'll vote for him again.

00:21:29.980 And, and, and really we're only one year into this and people are already excited about the

00:21:34.900 fact of what he's done.

00:21:36.180 Give us three more years and he'll have so many people that are excited about him that

00:21:40.980 I don't have any worries.

00:21:42.340 We'll do the exact same thing.

00:21:43.660 And what I'll do is sort of be scoreboard, scoreboard.

00:21:46.300 Oh yeah.

00:21:46.900 Remember that?

00:21:47.600 Oh yeah.

00:21:48.220 That was that.

00:21:49.160 Oh, do you remember that?

00:21:50.060 Yeah, he did that.

00:21:51.460 You know, I will say, I was so pleased looking at the returns from the Texas GOP primaries

00:21:56.580 from both primaries, Democrat and Republican.

00:21:58.740 They told us Republicans weren't going to turn out.

00:22:01.640 It was going to be a low turnout, big blue wave.

00:22:04.280 What happened?

00:22:04.920 Record high GOP turnout.

00:22:06.840 Now Democrats turned out too, at a much lower rate.

00:22:10.040 So we're still should be a little careful.

00:22:12.180 We got to make sure Republicans go out to vote, but it was really excellent to see there's

00:22:15.740 still a conservative exuberance.

00:22:17.600 And I have one last question before I have to let you go.

00:22:20.920 Tana, when are you going to run for office?

00:22:23.160 You'd be very good at it.

00:22:24.320 You have everything it takes.

00:22:26.200 Well, I appreciate that.

00:22:28.080 Thank you very much.

00:22:28.920 I'm not politically correct and I don't ever want to be because I agree with President Trump.

00:22:32.840 You know, there's a lot of, a lot of wimpy people in offices that just don't like,

00:22:37.900 they don't, they're not strong.

00:22:39.020 I like strength.

00:22:40.100 I have that same strength, but I don't ever see me doing this.

00:22:44.120 I'm loving what I'm doing and I'm really excited about my new business, the US-China

00:22:48.800 Exchange Group.

00:22:49.900 Really excited to help push President Trump's agenda, but from the outside.

00:22:55.280 And what does the, what does the US-China Exchange Group, what is it working on right

00:22:59.080 now?

00:23:00.040 Right now, we're trying to get agri businesses to sign up, to go on a mission trip.

00:23:04.620 And we're taking 10 companies, US companies that want to grow and improve their trade

00:23:09.640 relationships with China.

00:23:11.180 We're taking them over to China and we're going to introduce them to their counterparts

00:23:15.020 over there and help sort of be the project managers for making, getting through the red

00:23:20.920 tape and making that a seamless process.

00:23:23.720 That's excellent.

00:23:24.400 Well, that's a worthwhile activity.

00:23:26.340 I'm glad you're doing it.

00:23:27.420 I totally understand why you wouldn't want to run for office.

00:23:29.540 I will say though, I think one thing that Donald Trump has showed us is that politically

00:23:34.160 incorrect is the new politically correct.

00:23:36.620 It clearly works politically quite well.

00:23:39.040 And we can probably thank President Covfefe for that.

00:23:42.280 So, hey, listen, maybe, maybe there's a chance that if you run for office, you don't have 0.64

00:23:46.840 to become one of these mealy-mouthed, boring politicians.

00:23:50.000 You can remain true to yourself and project strength.

00:23:53.520 I think it's worked out pretty well.

00:23:55.240 And Tana, thank you for being here.

00:23:56.960 We'll let you go.

00:23:57.920 Thank you so much.

00:23:58.620 Thanks for having me.

00:24:01.560 How cool is she? 1.00

00:24:02.660 I love her, Tana Gertz.

00:24:04.640 So, I'm sorry, guys.

00:24:06.340 I know if you are watching us on YouTube right now, get yourself some clinical help because

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00:24:15.480 You're probably stumbling around drunk somewhere or on drugs.

00:24:19.060 Maybe a few of you are still able to see us on YouTube even though they're censoring the

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00:24:59.420 What we really care about is this leftist tears tumbler.

00:25:02.680 It's already filling because of the Texas primaries, because the results came out and

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00:25:39.840 We have a lot of mailbag today and I'm going to bulldoze through them.

00:25:43.340 I don't care.

00:25:43.960 We're going to, I'm going to make it happen.

00:25:45.340 From Michael, Michael, if a main role of the government consists of preservation of

00:25:51.940 life, could it not be argued then that government has the duty to fully fund a universal health

00:25:57.280 care?

00:25:57.740 I think by that you mean socialized medicine, socialist, socialist health care.

00:26:01.580 The government fully funds a police force in order to preserve life against the threat

00:26:04.920 of criminals.

00:26:05.800 Why not then against the threat of sickness or disease?

00:26:08.460 It seems to me that if we have a right to police protection, then we should have a right

00:26:13.280 to health care.

00:26:13.940 This is not putting a gun to a police officers or a doctor's head and forcing their labor.

00:26:18.380 Police officers sign up knowing that they have an obligation to protect people.

00:26:22.080 Why can't doctors sign up knowing they have an obligation to treat people?

00:26:25.680 I agree with limited government, but if nothing else, shouldn't it exist to provide things

00:26:29.620 such as this?

00:26:30.680 No.

00:26:31.360 No, thank you for your question.

00:26:32.820 This is a common misunderstanding, but no.

00:26:35.340 The purpose of the federal government is outlined for us by the framers.

00:26:38.520 It is, quote, to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility,

00:26:45.580 provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of

00:26:48.880 liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

00:26:51.460 So I know what you're thinking.

00:26:52.420 You say, well, getting free health care, that would benefit my general welfare.

00:26:58.260 It definitely would benefit my welfare.

00:26:59.880 That's right.

00:27:00.420 But the trouble is health care never gets so expensive as when it's free.

00:27:03.980 So there have been many experiments in socialist health care throughout the world, and it creates

00:27:09.300 a lot of dissatisfaction.

00:27:10.440 We have the best health care system in the world in this country.

00:27:13.340 When all the rich people in the world want to get good health care, they don't do it in

00:27:17.260 their terrible countries.

00:27:18.240 They come to the United States for it because we have the best.

00:27:21.260 And because we're innovators, all of the other countries actually benefit from our innovation.

00:27:25.300 The trouble with socialized medicine, too, is that it dramatically decreases liberty.

00:27:32.940 In this country, we have a second amendment to protect your life and liberty and pursuit

00:27:37.420 of happiness from a tyrannical government.

00:27:39.920 Our government actually tells you, you get to keep a gun so that you can shoot us if we 0.88

00:27:44.680 start to take away your guns.

00:27:50.200 Socialist health care puts your life in the hands of the government.

00:27:54.080 Your very health care, your medicine, your doctor visits, your surgery is in the hands

00:27:59.980 of the government.

00:28:00.760 That is a lot of power that not even a gun can protect against.

00:28:04.480 This is why in all of the countries with socialist health care, there are long, long waits to

00:28:10.220 get surgery and people die on waiting lists.

00:28:12.220 I went down to Cuba last June, and I got to talk to some people in Cuba.

00:28:16.360 And one of them pointed out to me and said, that's the big, famous national hospital.

00:28:20.720 Cuba touts its socialist health care system.

00:28:22.580 It says, look, everybody has access to this.

00:28:24.800 And they send their doctors abroad and everything.

00:28:26.720 They're 100% of coverage in Cuba.

00:28:29.000 So, okay, so anybody can walk in?

00:28:31.160 And my pal in Cuba turned to me and he said, yeah, yeah, anybody can walk in.

00:28:35.420 There won't be any medicine, but anybody can walk in.

00:28:37.820 And you have to bring your own toilet paper and your own food and sometimes your own needles.

00:28:42.020 And what really happens in that country and in a lot of socialist countries is that there

00:28:45.800 are private back doors so that people can actually get the medicine they need.

00:28:48.740 So there's every person with any money who cares about their health in the UK also has

00:28:55.260 private health insurance.

00:28:56.420 And in Cuba, they just pay doctors on the side.

00:28:59.260 All serious health care in Cuba is taken care of on the black market and people pay for it

00:29:03.120 because that's the way to get the best care at the lowest price.

00:29:06.960 Socialist medicine, in a way that is unacceptable, intolerable, abridges our liberty.

00:29:14.920 It also makes the cost of health care increase dramatically.

00:29:17.800 It also makes the quality of care decrease dramatically.

00:29:20.220 Doesn't promote my general welfare, I don't think.

00:29:22.520 Next question from Andy.

00:29:23.880 Hey, Michael, I'm a college sophomore and one of the classes I'm taking is basically

00:29:27.240 a crash course on postmodernism.

00:29:29.260 It's probably all of the classes you're taking.

00:29:30.620 For example, last week our classes were about the myth of meritocracy and white male privilege.

00:29:37.900 These people genuinely hate and look down on the idea of individualism and being able

00:29:42.160 to improve the circumstances in your life through your own effort.

00:29:45.060 They really believe that we live in a society that only benefits rich, white, straight, and

00:29:48.920 Christian males. 0.74

00:29:49.980 I probably missed some.

00:29:51.760 How do I push back on these ideas?

00:29:53.220 It seems like a very dangerous ideology to buy into because they're obsessed with their

00:29:56.760 own perceived power dynamics.

00:29:57.760 Also, are there any books or articles that you would recommend for me?

00:30:01.580 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:02.920 It is a horrible ideology.

00:30:04.820 Ideology in general isn't something that we should look toward or that we should embrace,

00:30:09.240 but this is a particularly rough one.

00:30:11.080 We are the only society, we in the West, that hates itself, especially America.

00:30:15.420 We hate ourselves and our history.

00:30:17.620 And, you know, on history we are also the most frequently wrong and least often in doubt.

00:30:23.740 You don't see China hate itself.

00:30:25.740 You don't see Japan hate itself.

00:30:28.380 You don't see a lot of countries and a lot of places around the world hate themselves.

00:30:34.460 And yet in the West, we judge ourselves.

00:30:37.400 We are judged by our worst moments.

00:30:39.500 And whereas other societies, we're told, we have to judge them by their best moments.

00:30:43.220 So they always say in the West, they say, well, you know, there was the Spanish Inquisition

00:30:46.740 in the West.

00:30:47.600 There were the Crusades in the West.

00:30:49.420 Mind you, they don't know anything about either of those two events, both of which are entirely

00:30:53.540 defensible, but that'll be a separate episode.

00:30:57.620 But then they'll say, oh, but the Muslim civilization, they had Andalusia, didn't they?

00:31:01.680 Oh, they had the Neoplatonists. 1.00

00:31:03.860 They had, oh, isn't that, they only talk about these fine moments. 0.98

00:31:07.940 And they say, oh, well, when Muslim terrorists blow up all of our cities in the West, that 0.97

00:31:12.300 you can't mention that. 0.99

00:31:13.700 That has nothing to do with Islam.

00:31:14.940 That has nothing to do with their civilization.

00:31:16.340 How dare you?

00:31:17.460 And yet they're holding us accountable for a crusade that happened 800 years ago, which

00:31:21.740 is defensible.

00:31:22.860 It's totally insane.

00:31:24.380 The way to avoid this and to avoid this awful ideology is to read the originals.

00:31:29.740 The reason that your class seems like a crash course in postmodernism is this awful trend

00:31:34.380 in liberal education where no longer are we reading the people that we're reading.

00:31:40.480 No longer are we reading the great books, Aristotle and Plato and Cicero and Thucydides and all

00:31:46.140 the way, Aquinas and Dante and all the way up.

00:31:49.140 We're reading books about those books and books about those people.

00:31:52.580 And it's what Harold Bloom calls the school of resentment.

00:31:55.260 It's books trying to take it apart, trying to deconstruct all that and tell you why it's

00:32:00.240 so awful.

00:32:01.000 Forget that. 1.00

00:32:01.560 Forget that nonsense and that stupid ideological lens. 1.00

00:32:04.260 Read the originals and you'll get a much better view of things. 1.00

00:32:06.920 From Stephen.

00:32:07.420 My Lord Knowles, if I may post a query to you that has been causing me great anguish and

00:32:12.900 many sleepless nights, it would bring me joy to my heart and solace to my immortal soul

00:32:17.420 to be eliminated by your light.

00:32:19.740 Also, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

00:32:21.780 Why can't someone who murders a pregnant woman be charged with two counts of murder?

00:32:26.960 Why can they?

00:32:27.920 While abortionists are paid to legally commit one of those murders, often with our tax dollars 0.97

00:32:32.760 via Medicaid, do our friends on the left ever acknowledge this obvious moral and legal

00:32:37.520 contradiction?

00:32:38.460 And if so, how do they square that circle?

00:32:40.780 Also, if abortion were made illegal by a clear law or constitutional amendment, would you support

00:32:45.820 murder charges for doctors who continue this barbaric practice?

00:32:49.800 Many thanks and God bless you, Steve.

00:32:51.980 Yeah, there is a willful ignorance, I think, on the lefties who want to square that circle.

00:32:57.820 I do think there's a willful ignorance.

00:32:59.180 I do understand how someone could honestly support abortion and not think that it's murder.

00:33:05.360 And the way that they could do that is by saying, it's not murder.

00:33:09.060 No, a woman needs autonomy over her body. 1.00

00:33:11.380 It's unfair that women have this particular issue and men don't have that and that's unfair.

00:33:16.040 And so it's not murder.

00:33:17.740 Are you sure?

00:33:18.560 Yeah, no, I'm sure.

00:33:19.660 How is it?

00:33:20.200 It kind of looks like murder.

00:33:21.120 No, no, it's not murder.

00:33:22.020 It's a willful ignorance.

00:33:23.540 It's like in The Giver by Lois Lowry.

00:33:25.320 And there's this scene in the movie, too, and in the book, where they're talking, the 0.72

00:33:29.620 people, these automatons in this utopian society without any history, they kill babies. 0.99

00:33:36.740 They kill what they consider to be defective babies. 0.66

00:33:39.120 And you see, I remember in the movie, you see the person look and say, oh my, how are they

00:33:42.760 killing those babies?

00:33:43.460 And they say, they don't know they're doing it. 0.99

00:33:44.960 They don't realize they're killing babies. 0.99

00:33:46.300 They're just doing it.

00:33:47.040 So that's how they don't square that circle.

00:33:51.640 As for murder charges for abortionists, yeah, if it were against the law, if there were a

00:33:55.720 constitutional amendment defining the beginning of life or acknowledging the beginning of

00:34:00.920 life or a law or something, not only would I support murder charges for those people breaking

00:34:06.620 the law and committing murder according to the law, everyone would have to support that,

00:34:10.760 right?

00:34:11.380 Basically, the law is defining this as murder or as morally similar to murder.

00:34:16.740 If that is how the law is defining it, you would have to support law enforcement.

00:34:22.200 And the reason that it's important to bring this up is this is like the Dred Scott decision.

00:34:26.640 This is why the abortion issue is a lot like the slavery issue.

00:34:30.460 The central premise for the American nation is natural rights.

00:34:34.360 So the Dred Scott decision is actually a great decision.

00:34:36.940 It's the wrong decision, but it throws the issue into stark relief, which is freed blacks 0.54

00:34:43.320 can't become American citizens if there is slavery that is tolerated in the country.

00:34:50.100 The country is premised on natural rights, that we're endowed by our creator with natural

00:34:54.760 rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:34:57.120 But those come in nature.

00:34:58.420 Those are innate.

00:34:59.600 So either blacks have natural rights or they don't have natural rights. 1.00

00:35:03.860 If they do have natural rights, you can't tolerate slavery. 0.94

00:35:06.420 It's an intolerable evil.

00:35:07.340 If they don't have natural rights, then they could never attain to American citizenship, 0.90

00:35:11.260 which is premised on natural rights.

00:35:13.480 You can't gain something which is natural.

00:35:15.700 Same thing with abortion. 1.00

00:35:17.620 Either human life is sacred from the beginning.

00:35:19.520 Either humans have dignity from the beginning or they don't.

00:35:23.040 And if they don't have dignity from the beginning, then when do you get it?

00:35:25.780 I don't know, maybe around 27 or something, 29.

00:35:28.520 How do we define?

00:35:29.020 Oh, only smart people have dignity. 0.99

00:35:30.760 Only retarded babies, they don't have dignity. 1.00

00:35:33.000 Oh, if they're missing a couple limbs, they don't get dignity. 0.93

00:35:36.120 Oh, no, when you're sleeping, you lose your dignity.

00:35:38.600 It doesn't make sense.

00:35:39.720 They either have human dignity or they don't.

00:35:42.700 They either have rights to liberty or they don't.

00:35:46.560 And so by throwing that into stark relief, I think you'd end up with a logically necessary conclusion.

00:35:53.700 From Ronald.

00:35:55.320 Hi, Michael.

00:35:55.920 I have a dating question.

00:35:57.240 Bring it on, baby.

00:35:58.260 I am subscribed to Catholic Match.

00:36:01.060 Just a side note.

00:36:02.000 I have been dating sweet little Elisa since before these apps were necessary.

00:36:08.700 So I did miss this whole area.

00:36:10.800 But now there are matches for everything. 0.53

00:36:12.500 They're Catholic, Jewish, gay, straight, polygamous, I think. 0.93

00:36:17.260 So that's cool.

00:36:17.800 I'm glad Catholic Match sounds like a good one as far as they go.

00:36:20.320 Where we can compare our temperaments with those of other subscribers.

00:36:24.000 Should I look for someone with a similar temperament to mine?

00:36:26.000 Or should I look for someone with an opposing temperament who can balance out my negative traits?

00:36:30.820 Thanks.

00:36:31.940 I think you should look for someone who has a similar outlook and different temperament.

00:36:36.520 Who sees the world with similar premises but has a different temperament.

00:36:40.960 And it's because men and women are not supposed to be the same. 0.91

00:36:43.820 Men and women aren't the same. 0.98

00:36:45.100 They're not identical.

00:36:46.060 That's why there are men and there are women. 1.00

00:36:47.720 If they were the same, we wouldn't have two words for it.

00:36:50.820 They would be the same thing.

00:36:52.240 So you want to be complementary.

00:36:53.740 The sexes are complementary to one another.

00:36:55.460 I can say from personal experience, sweet little Elisa has in many ways a different temperament than I do.

00:37:02.680 And does balance out a lot of things and gives me another perspective.

00:37:06.680 But you do want a similar premises.

00:37:10.940 You don't want someone who sees the world fundamentally different than you do.

00:37:15.420 That doesn't really work, I don't think.

00:37:18.220 That's just, you need to begin from the same place and you'll disagree and you'll compliment one another.

00:37:24.760 But I do think it's much easier if you, for instance, you don't need to date someone who's conservative.

00:37:30.780 Who likes Donald Trump or something.

00:37:32.920 But you might want to date someone who is dispositionally conservative.

00:37:36.400 You know, who has a kind of, a small C or something like that.

00:37:39.240 Shares those premises with you.

00:37:40.520 It'll just make it a lot easier.

00:37:41.600 Especially with the raising of children.

00:37:43.360 Next question from Marg.

00:37:45.880 I knew it.

00:37:46.980 Hearing what Juanita said about Bill telling her not to worry.

00:37:50.420 That he was sterile proved what I said all along about him not being Chelsea's father. 0.95

00:37:54.700 His medical records were never released and I knew it was to hide something like that.

00:37:58.500 My brother and I were roundly criticized for making that claim.

00:38:01.080 We both said that Webb Hubble is her father.

00:38:03.240 Hill and he were tight at the law firm she worked in.

00:38:05.500 And he died under interesting circumstances.

00:38:08.040 Just a little too soon, like so many people she and Bill know.

00:38:10.680 Great interview with Juanita.

00:38:11.900 May her book sell multiple millions of copies and bring you all, bring all you little crumb 0.59

00:38:16.580 catchers, crumb crunchers up to speed on how evil these people are.

00:38:20.260 She was absolutely correct that the atmosphere that existed at that time, victims didn't

00:38:23.580 say squat.

00:38:24.480 They assumed guilt for what happened to them.

00:38:26.480 The perps got away with it and became further emboldened because we didn't speak up.

00:38:30.940 Love your show.

00:38:31.800 Keep the covfefe coming.

00:38:33.040 Marg.

00:38:33.420 Thank you, Marg.

00:38:34.640 To begin on this, it is a wise child that knows his own father.

00:38:38.900 To quote Telemachus regarding his, ostensibly his father, Odysseus.

00:38:44.700 It is a wise child that knows his own father. 1.00

00:38:47.520 Second, Bill Clinton is a liar. 1.00

00:38:49.360 He's a famous liar. 1.00

00:38:50.640 Lying is like the defining feature of Bill Clinton. 0.99

00:38:53.500 So here's the trouble with the Bill isn't Chelsea's father story.

00:38:57.320 One, I don't care.

00:38:58.580 I truly don't care.

00:38:59.860 If I don't hear from the Clintons ever again in my life, that's fine by me.

00:39:03.100 That'll be too soon.

00:39:03.820 But, in so much as we're talking about it, the thing we're basing Bill not being Chelsea's 0.99

00:39:10.360 father on is something that Bill told the woman that he just raped. 0.99

00:39:15.560 And Bill Clinton, the biggest liar, telling a woman that he just violated as he's saying 1.00

00:39:20.160 other vile things. 0.98

00:39:21.180 So even if Bill were telling Juanita Broderick the truth, we just can't take his word for

00:39:25.160 it.

00:39:25.320 His word isn't credible at all.

00:39:27.040 Um, and I, I don't know. 0.99

00:39:29.400 I mean, it's, you know, Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton is a liar. 0.87

00:39:33.180 So actually his telling Juanita Broderick that he was sterile makes me almost certain 0.70

00:39:37.600 that he is Chelsea's father.

00:39:39.040 But who knows?

00:39:39.740 I don't know. 0.99

00:39:39.980 The Clintons are very depraved people. 0.94

00:39:42.200 So her father might be like some alien from outer space for all I know. 0.96

00:39:46.540 From Kelly, Knowles, you are incrementally converting my husband to Catholicism. 0.62

00:39:51.660 Cut it out.

00:39:52.380 Just kidding.

00:39:53.100 But in all seriousness, my husband and I are evangelical Christians.

00:39:56.260 Last night we had a long talk about whether or not we should move to Catholicism because

00:39:59.820 of you.

00:40:00.340 That's very nice to hear.

00:40:01.540 But here's my hesitation.

00:40:03.240 I had Peter Kreeft as a philosophy professor in college, and he explained to us that he

00:40:07.380 converted to Catholicism because for him the choice was life or death.

00:40:11.340 If he did not convert, he knew he would die.

00:40:13.180 I took this seriously and do not feel that I am incomplete without the Catholic faith,

00:40:18.100 and so I should not convert.

00:40:19.440 Does this seem accurate to you, or is this position more extreme than is warranted?

00:40:23.600 Thanks, Kelly.

00:40:24.380 The latter, it's more extreme than is warranted.

00:40:26.500 I'm very pleased to hear, though, that you're considering coming on over.

00:40:31.740 You know, I also, when I reverted to Christianity, I read a lot of Protestants, and it was in many

00:40:37.680 ways Protestants who pulled me closer, and then I went whole hog into the church universal.

00:40:44.920 To paraphrase an Orthodox Jewish friend of mine, to the problem with your dilemma here, theology

00:40:51.740 doesn't care about your feelings.

00:40:53.940 I don't know.

00:40:54.700 There's some guy I know who wanders around the halls here who says something similar to

00:40:57.500 that.

00:40:57.960 I'm reading a book right now that, coincidentally, Drew Clavin also happens to be rereading by

00:41:02.420 a philosopher named Alistair MacIntyre called After Virtue.

00:41:05.700 And in it, MacIntyre correctly identifies emotivism as the dominant moral framework of our age.

00:41:11.760 And emotivism is feelings.

00:41:13.800 It's the feelings of the facts don't care about your feelings, right?

00:41:16.200 It's the idea.

00:41:17.260 In some ways, it's the facts, too, but that's for another episode.

00:41:20.780 It's the idea that ethical and value judgments aren't really statements of fact.

00:41:26.000 Murder is wrong isn't really a statement of fact, but rather they're merely expressions

00:41:30.400 of feeling or preference or attitude.

00:41:32.600 You say murder is wrong.

00:41:33.960 I say murder is wonderful and fun and exhilarating.

00:41:36.700 Who's to say who's right?

00:41:37.780 Who's to say?

00:41:38.320 So the emotivist says when we say things like murder is wrong, what we're really just doing

00:41:43.080 is using a rhetorical technique to mask what are nothing more than our individual preferences.

00:41:48.740 Here's how this ties in to Christianity in America and Catholicism.

00:41:52.800 It seems quite clear to me that in America, it is the individualistic character of Protestantism

00:41:58.500 that has brought emotivism to the forefront of popular culture, this feelings-based pseudo-moral

00:42:05.360 framework.

00:42:05.860 MacIntyre coincidentally agrees with this, actually, as do a great many other observers

00:42:10.520 of cultural and intellectual history that we on the right all love, Jacques Borgeson

00:42:14.700 among them as well.

00:42:15.720 This is why you can observe it.

00:42:17.200 This is why so many Protestant churches keep changing their minds on foundational moral issues,

00:42:21.960 not just among the countless evangelical churches, but even mainline Protestant churches, huge

00:42:27.440 splits within just the past few decades.

00:42:29.540 Within the Presbyterian Church in America, the Episcopal Church.

00:42:33.300 MacIntyre, I'll also point out, converted to Catholicism not long after he wrote his book

00:42:38.360 fairly shortly afterward in a way that's reminiscent of G.K. Chesterton, who took a little bit longer

00:42:44.200 but also converted to Catholicism after writing Orthodoxy.

00:42:48.740 I hope that helps.

00:42:49.520 I hope that helps guide you in your dilemma.

00:42:51.220 From Nathan, Michael, huge fan of your show.

00:42:54.120 Our wives were dorm mates back in the day, and I was wondering if you would help spread the word about a piece of

00:43:00.260 compromise legislation I'm hoping to make catch on to shift the gun control bait in our favor.

00:43:06.440 First of all, I remember your lovely wife.

00:43:09.320 I do remember her, and I remember hearing about you, and so thanks for watching the show.

00:43:14.040 I appreciate that.

00:43:14.620 I won't say your names or what you do because I don't want your association with The Daily Wire

00:43:19.500 to destroy your careers and reputations.

00:43:21.700 You don't want your boss to find out you subscribe, but very nice to hear from you.

00:43:25.060 He says,

00:43:25.500 The founders were clear that arms and common use should be available to the public.

00:43:30.240 I propose to restrict access to the purchase of all semi-automatic firearms to the age of 25

00:43:36.040 when the brain has fully developed, as with rental car purchases,

00:43:39.760 unless having completed a weapons safety course as the Canadians require.

00:43:43.540 I've been calling it the well-regulated militia bill because the extra training is the desired outcome 0.71

00:43:47.840 and not necessarily having to wait until 25.

00:43:51.180 The second part of this bill would be the concealed carry reciprocity

00:43:54.360 for all honorably discharged veterans.

00:43:57.700 Cheers, Bubba.

00:43:58.980 P.S. Get Jeff Durbin on your show to help set your heretical ways straight.

00:44:04.100 I'll try to do that.

00:44:05.380 You know, Jeff sounds like a perfectly nice guy and everything,

00:44:08.080 but whenever I want a Protestant to come on this show and punish me for my potpourri, 0.97

00:44:12.660 I usually call Allie Stuckey because that's the closest that I ever get to Fifty Shades of Grey,

00:44:17.340 so don't deprive me of that.

00:44:18.880 As for the bill, I like the second part.

00:44:21.060 I don't like the first part.

00:44:21.840 There is no constitutional right to rent a car.

00:44:24.820 That's why companies can restrict it to 25, although some don't.

00:44:27.920 I rented cars at a younger age.

00:44:29.740 There's a great company called Rent-A-Wreck, which rents to people below 25.

00:44:34.400 A lot of states like my own already restrict handgun ownership to age 21 and above.

00:44:40.440 California is an example of this.

00:44:42.180 The vast majority of gun deaths are from handguns,

00:44:44.900 though, of course, two-thirds of those are just suicides.

00:44:47.320 They're not homicide.

00:44:48.780 They're suicide by middle-aged men well over 21, double 21, triple 21.

00:44:54.320 The media make hay about semi-automatic rifles,

00:44:56.800 but there is no crisis or epidemic in America on this.

00:44:59.800 Semi-automatic rifles are involved in a relatively small number of homicides each year.

00:45:04.300 Mass shootings have been on a steep decline since the early 1990s,

00:45:07.260 as have school shootings, despite what the media would tell you.

00:45:10.800 The mainstream media pretend there is a crisis,

00:45:12.660 that these shootings and these deaths are increasing,

00:45:15.120 that semi-automatic rifles are the cause because they want to take away your guns.

00:45:19.660 They want to take guns from Americans. 0.87

00:45:21.340 They'll do it any way they can.

00:45:23.440 The purpose of the Second Amendment is to protect liberty.

00:45:27.260 When the zombie apocalypse strikes, young men are going to be doing the fighting,

00:45:31.480 so they probably should have some experience with guns.

00:45:33.840 As for the suggestion that they can bump the age back down

00:45:37.200 if they just take some safety course or take some gun shoot marksman course,

00:45:41.700 I actually don't see the logic of that because what we're saying is that

00:45:45.580 the only way that potential mass shooters can get guns

00:45:48.540 is if we teach them how to shoot them better. 0.70

00:45:50.460 But I don't want to teach them how to shoot them better. 0.98

00:45:52.060 I would much rather they be bad shots and not clean their guns 0.99

00:45:54.760 and have it blow up in their face. 0.99

00:45:56.060 That's fine by me.

00:45:57.200 I think we should bar those people from taking safety courses.

00:46:01.560 Largely, the mainstream media premises just aren't true.

00:46:04.300 So my question is on this bill, why?

00:46:06.780 Why give them an inch?

00:46:08.720 There is a declining problem.

00:46:10.700 What we have done for the last 10 years is working.

00:46:14.000 The American people hate gun control.

00:46:15.520 They've always hated gun control.

00:46:17.000 Democrats always lose elections when they harp on gun control.

00:46:19.760 All of the crime numbers are declining,

00:46:21.320 and the guns that they want to ban are not the issue.

00:46:24.600 Forget their premises.

00:46:25.760 Keep calm and covfefe.

00:46:27.160 Keep your constitutional rights and covfefe.

00:46:30.300 As for concealed carry reciprocity for honorably discharged vets,

00:46:33.560 yeah, sounds great.

00:46:34.240 Let's do it.

00:46:34.840 Tell your wife I said hello.

00:46:36.340 From Nathan, future St. Michael, how much more time do we have?

00:46:39.640 We got a time for one more?

00:46:40.880 We got time?

00:46:41.140 We can read one more.

00:46:41.760 All right.

00:46:42.440 From Nathan, future St. Michael.

00:46:45.200 Thank you.

00:46:45.780 I appreciate it.

00:46:46.200 That's very nice.

00:46:46.960 My question might be more appropriate for Ben,

00:46:49.620 but I want to give you a chance to answer a question that doesn't have to do with Catholicism.

00:46:54.060 That's a first.

00:46:55.240 It's the first one in a while.

00:46:56.180 My wife had a traumatic brain injury 13 years ago.

00:47:00.700 She's physically fine, but her communication ability is severely impaired.

00:47:05.200 She receives federal disability benefits, probably will for the rest of her life unless entitlement rules change.

00:47:11.160 In the early years of her receiving benefits, they were a great help to us.

00:47:14.600 But as my own salary has grown, the benefits are no longer critical to our financial well-being.

00:47:19.040 It's not a lot of money, but it does give us some breathing room in our budget.

00:47:21.940 We have three kids.

00:47:22.980 She's obviously a stay-at-home mom. 0.95

00:47:24.640 Even if she never had the injury, by this point in her life,

00:47:27.880 she would most likely not be working outside the home in order to raise our children. 1.00

00:47:31.400 In principle, we think a safety net is an okay idea, but only in a society with a flat tax.

00:47:35.760 In our opinion, the current tax and entitlement arrangement is a transfer of wealth

00:47:39.360 instead of being a fair social contract.

00:47:41.180 So my question is, how do we justify receiving benefits from an entitlement program we disagree with?

00:47:46.500 The ever-expanding entitlement programs are a huge problem.

00:47:49.520 How do we justify being part of the problem?

00:47:51.940 Even if we are legally entitled to the current benefits we receive.

00:47:55.700 What are your thoughts on this ethical dilemma?

00:47:57.660 We will always vote in ways that would reduce entitlement spending,

00:48:00.360 but should my wife voluntarily discontinue the benefit?

00:48:02.840 Also, since we have children, this is no longer a question that only involves us.

00:48:06.620 Turning down money could be irresponsible on our part.

00:48:08.920 Thanks, Nathan.

00:48:09.900 P.S.

00:48:10.720 I know you will one day be declared a saint,

00:48:12.900 because every passing day that Ben has not fired you is another miracle.

00:48:15.900 That is too true, man.

00:48:20.160 That is evidence of grace and providence.

00:48:23.860 I'm sorry to hear about your wife's injury.

00:48:26.440 To your question, it's not an ethical dilemma at all.

00:48:29.300 I don't think it's even close to an ethical dilemma.

00:48:32.720 You're probably a better man for agonizing over this, but no, it isn't at all.

00:48:38.200 Do you pay taxes to support entitlement programs that you disagree with?

00:48:41.700 Then you should take the benefits.

00:48:43.300 Of course you do.

00:48:43.960 You're taking the money because you're entitled to it.

00:48:47.240 The problem with entitlements is not that people aren't entitled to it.

00:48:50.000 It's that people are entitled to it, and the spending gets out of control.

00:48:52.680 You shouldn't unilaterally disarm.

00:48:54.880 That isn't going to do anything, because then you're just paying into it.

00:48:57.920 You're going to continue to pay and fund these programs for other people to take out.

00:49:01.500 Other people are going to take it out.

00:49:02.520 I promise you that, and the problem still won't be solved.

00:49:06.620 This is a tactic of the left they do somewhat frequently.

00:49:09.220 They try, because we have standards, and they have nothing but double standards.

00:49:14.020 So we have standards.

00:49:15.860 They say you have to live up to that standard, even if the framework of the country, even

00:49:19.720 if the framework of policy undercuts that.

00:49:22.560 But you should do it anyway, and it's of no benefit to anybody.

00:49:26.060 It's just a tactic used by lefties.

00:49:28.800 Absolutely not.

00:49:29.740 Take the benefit and continue to vote for entitlement reform.

00:49:32.840 We need entitlement reform.

00:49:34.000 I'm not sure if this would even affect, really, your family's situation here, but we do need

00:49:39.180 Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security reform.

00:49:42.260 That's not going to happen, because you punish yourself and your family, and decide not to

00:49:46.500 take money that you've already paid into.

00:49:48.060 Absolutely not.

00:49:48.740 I understand the feeling that you don't like taking money from the government, but that's

00:49:53.480 what's so insidious, is we live in a country with this massive expanding entitlement program.

00:49:58.080 The problem isn't that you're getting a check.

00:50:00.040 The problem is that we have a massive entitlement program.

00:50:02.400 Attack that.

00:50:03.500 Don't create separate rules for you that other people don't have to follow.

00:50:07.660 It won't help anybody.

00:50:08.780 Hope that helps.

00:50:09.600 That is our entire show.

00:50:11.040 Make sure over the weekend that you listen to Another Kingdom, Andrew Klavan's narrative

00:50:15.120 podcast that I perform all the roles in.

00:50:17.220 It is all out there.

00:50:18.900 You can binge the whole thing, all 13 episodes.

00:50:20.920 We are hard at work on season two.

00:50:23.680 And by we, I mean Drew is writing it, and I am smoking cigars and drinking.

00:50:29.920 But he's writing it, and we're a team.

00:50:31.880 I am smoking a lot of cigars and drinking a lot.

00:50:36.220 So go over there.

00:50:37.420 Make sure you listen to all of that.

00:50:39.080 And I will see you on Monday.

00:50:40.200 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:50:40.840 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:50:41.620 The Michael Knowles Show is a Daily Wire Forward Publishing production.

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 08, 2018

Ep. 118 - National Women For Trump Day! ft. Tana Goertz

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