Ep. 1180 -The FBI Preps For A Crusade On Catholics
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As our political rulers celebrate the slaughter of babies and castration of children, they ve got a new plan to thwart threats to our nation: stop Catholics from going to mass. According to an FBI document leaked by former agent Kyle Serafin, the nation s top domestic law enforcement agency considers Catholics, and specifically Catholics who attend the traditional mass, to be radical, potentially violent extremists.
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As our political rulers celebrate the slaughter of babies and castration of children,
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they've got a new plan to thwart threats to our nation, and that is to stop Catholics from going
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to mass. According to an FBI document leaked by former agent Kyle Serafin, the nation's top
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domestic law enforcement agency considers Catholics, and specifically Catholics who
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attend the traditional mass, the mass that defined Western civilization for nearly two
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millennia, to be radical, potentially violent extremists. Now, as one of those fringe radicals
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who attends the traditional mass, I can tell you, there are plenty of threats. For starters,
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many people who attend the traditional mass have families, often with multiple babies.
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So the odds of slipping on a pacifier and hitting your head on the floor of the church are very
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real. There are censors at the mass, thuribles to use the technical term. So at any point,
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you might start coughing on that fragrant incense. And if that weren't enough, just before the mass,
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the priest walks down the aisle and sprinkles people with hyssop to symbolize the cleansing of
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our souls. And the water could get in your eye or something like that. A lot of threats.
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Now, some people have pointed out that law enforcement might be put to better use
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arresting the criminals who burn our country down and kill lots of people, like BLM did for eight
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months straight. Or stopping the international criminal cabals flooding our country with gangsters
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and poison and two million trafficked human beings per year, as the cartels do across our southern
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border. Or taking down the elite pedo rings like Jeffrey Epstein's, which operated with relative
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impunity and apparent federal sanction for years on end. But how could the FBI devote any attention
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to those minor problems when a handful of Christians are worshiping God the way that they have for 2,000
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years? Our political rulers recognize that they need to keep their priorities in order. And those
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rulers, the principalities and powers of this world, have made their priorities perfectly clear.
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Speaking of crime, all those terrible crimes of Christians going and worshiping God in the
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traditional way of two millennia. There are some other crimes going around our culture,
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and a lot of people are defending those crimes. There's a documentary out from Vice, the left-wing
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magazine media company, in which libs make an argument explicitly that they've been making
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implicitly for many, many years. Namely, that if you criticize crime, you're actually criticizing a race
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and a culture. Statistically, it is true that Asians, right, on average, make more money in terms
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of medium, make more money, better test scores, getting into better colleges, all that stuff. I
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think the question is, why is that? And I don't know if model minority, whatever that label wants
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to mean. That's actually a myth because we cannot be- Well, no, listen. Well, let me finish my point.
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We need to observe what makes people successful and unsuccessful. And I think when you look at
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trends that are generally true in the Asian community, not of everyone, but are generally true,
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usually you have families that are sticking together. You have, you know, people are taught
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to work hard in school, not get into trouble. I think that translates to why Asians en masse are
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successful. And I don't think you have to be Asian or white, for that matter, to not have kids out of
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wedlock, not, you know, commit crime, not cause trouble, whatever it is. It's just a matter of like,
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well, common sense, that's what makes people successful. And if that's so-called assimilation,
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having a nuclear family, buying a house, going to school, whatever it is, then yeah,
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okay, call me a pro-assimilation then. I think there's a difference between
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Yes. Yes. There it is right there at the end. Throughout the whole clip, if you were only
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listening to it, you weren't able to watch the just beautiful expressions on the faces of all
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the libs on the panel. He says, you know, I just think probably people shouldn't have kids out of
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wedlock and they should get married and they should do well in school and they should not commit crimes.
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And you look on the people's faces, they say, is he really, is he really telling people not to
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commit crimes? Is he, oh my gosh, what is he? And then at the end, at the very, very tail end of
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that clip, you get the thrust of the libs argument. They say, well, look, come on. What you're talking
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about, that's not assimilation, that's erasure. Erasure is the lib term that describes when you
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disrespect and erase a different cultural groups and racial groups is usually how it's applied.
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Which is to say, the libs are suggesting that crime is just an integral part of certain races
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and cultures, which that sounds like the kind of argument that if we said it, they would call that
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racist. But they're the ones who are saying that. And it is not true. It is not true. Our society says
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that good culture is a crime and that criminal culture is good. Our society says that people
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going to mass with their families to worship God on Sunday, that that is tantamount to a crime.
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It's violent extremism. It's terrorism. Let's go sick the feds on those Catholics.
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But people who are committing actual crimes, robberies, looting, murder, that's just their
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culture. And we can't tell anyone that their culture is bad and we need to let them off the
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hook. And BLM goes and burns the country down for eight months. Well, let's drop the charges. Come
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on. Society made them do that. Come on. Actually, we supported it ourselves. We elites running society.
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That's where we are, completely upside down. You see this double standard of justice,
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especially clearly this week over at the Oklahoma State Capitol. Now,
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listen, I'm an old man now. I'm getting older by the minute. And so I'm old enough to remember
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when showing up and making a giant nuisance of yourself at a Capitol was called a coup d'etat,
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an insurrection, treason, the sort of thing where you need to be arrested and thrown
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in solitary confinement. But turns out that's only the case when it's conservatives who show up to
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the Capitol. When it is leftists who show up to the Capitol, that is a wonderful thing. And you saw
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that this week. The Trans Lives Matter demonstrators occupied the Oklahoma Capitol building. They occupied
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it to protest Republican-backed bills that would ban transing the kids. It would ban sex change
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operations for people under the age of 26. The argument being that people's brains aren't fully
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developed until they're 25. So you're going to ban those surgeries until the brains are developed.
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I think they should be banned for everybody. Nobody has a right to chop off his genitals.
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It's a very cruel and absurd society that would encourage delusional, mentally ill people to chop off
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their genitals of any age, not just little kids. So 150 protesters from a bunch of different
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groups show up to the Oklahoma Capitol. And they're there and they're screaming and they're yelling and
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they've got their signs and they're chanting. And they're far less whimsical than the smiley guy with
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the podium, the lectern at January 6th, or the horn hat guy. They're actually somehow more eccentric
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even than the horn hat guy. But this is lauded as a wonderful thing. And that's always the case.
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That's always the case. And it's really just a reminder for the squishes. It's not a reminder
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for the libs. They know that they have two tiers of justice. They're behind it. They're the ones who
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are enforcing different rules on conservatives than on leftists. The real conservatives, we know
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that there are two systems of justice. If you go out and trans the kids and have a homage to the Prince
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of Lies and with the fires of hell at the Grammys, the first lady is going to be there. Everyone's
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going to be applauding. It's going to be a wonderful thing. But if you show up to the traditional mass
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on Sunday, the feds are going to be there trying to entrap you. You say, how do you do, fellow
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Catholics? Any of you want to do some terrorism today? Oh, no, I'm just asking. I don't know.
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You want to go get a bagel after and talk about terrorism? That's the way that it goes. They know
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that. It's the squishes in the middle who don't get it. It's the squishes in the middle who buy the
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propaganda. We say, oh, well, that horn hat guy, maybe he really is Osama bin Laden. Oh,
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I don't know. I mean, when you really think about it, taking a funny picture with a Coors Light or a
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Nancy Pelosi lectern in the Capitol Rotunda, that kind of is tantamount to an act of terrorism or a
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coup d'etat. No, of course it's not. Of course it's not. Speaking of transing people and state capitals,
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got to give a shout out to Walsh. Walsh had a magnificent performance yesterday over here in
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Tennessee at the Tennessee state capitol. He showed up to talk about it. There was a bill that was up
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about transgenderism. And Walsh, Walsh just showed up. He's a citizen of Nashville. And the Democrats
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thought that they could entrap him. They thought that they could own Matt Walsh with facts and logic.
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Did not turn out well for them. So I'm curious if 16 is an adult in your view. Why does this bill
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have the minor defined as 18? Mr. Walsh recognized. Yeah, that's a hit piece you took from Media
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Matters, from something when I was a radio host 13, 14 years ago in my early 20s. It's also not an
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accurate reflection of what I actually said. I was talking about the fact that people tended to marry
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young historically. And that's all that that was about. How does that relate to this subject?
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Just curious of your definition of if you feel like people are adults at 16, should...
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Well, people are adults at 18. But actually, your brain is not fully developed until you're 25.
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So we should be having a conversation about whether we should even be doing these surgeries to people
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at 18. But certainly before 18, it's absurd. I mean, do you think that a 16-year-old can meaningfully
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consent to having their body parts removed? Do you? No? We do not. Yeah, we ask the questions. It's not...
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Representative Hammer, you are recognized. Absolutely devastating. I knew it was going to go bad
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when the Democrat opened his mouth because he was unsure of himself. He clearly, as Walsh pointed out,
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he had this gotcha that he got from skimming Media Matters or SPLC or one of these left-wing
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hit organizations and a hit job on Matt. You said a thing on the radio about how 16-year-olds used to
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get married. So what do you think about that? And Walsh just absolutely pile drives this poor
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this poor Democrat state senator. So, okay, all right. Well, here's the explanation of the
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line that you took out of context for Media Matters. But let's just talk about the question
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here at the hearing. Do you really think a 16-year-old can consent to having her body parts
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Democrats, if you had answers as well as questions. I know you got a lot of questions. You're confused
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Speaking of transing people, Ron DeSantis announced the conclusion of a plan that he had
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declared a year ago. Ron DeSantis is taking self-government away from Disney.
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Disney's going to pay its debt. And I think if you remember when we did the initial special session
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where we set the sunset date, and we knew we'd have to deal with this. I always said that they're
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going to come in and we're going to figure out the best way to do it. So what I said really for the
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last six, nine months is Disney is no longer going to have self-government. They're not going to have
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their own government. Disney is going to pay its fair share of taxes, and Disney's going to honor the
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debt. And that's exactly what this proposed piece of legislation will do. If you remember when we first
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went down this road last spring, a lot of folks in the media were saying that, oh my gosh, Disney's
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actually going to pay less taxes and Floridians are going to pay more taxes. They were saying that.
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And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. Well, this puts that to bed. And so those debts will be
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honored and those will be paid. Now, this is obviously now going to be controlled by the state
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of Florida, which is no longer self-governing for them. So there's a new sheriff in town,
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Really, really good look. In practice, what this means is that Disney, for the last half century or
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more, has had control of the local government of the district that Disney World operates in.
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And what DeSantis has done is take over the district, take it back from Disney. So Florida
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Republicans will have DeSantis appointing all five leaders of Disney's tax district in Orlando,
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and they will rename the district. So it will no longer be called the Reedy Creek Improvement
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District, which is what it had been called. It'll now be the Central Florida Tourism Oversight
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District. And the reason this matters for DeSantis in particular is it shows follow through.
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It's not just an announcement. When he announced it last year, I thought, oh,
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this is a good political stunt. This looks good. It's the right idea. Okay, fine.
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But then he actually followed through with it. He doesn't really get a new headline out of the
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announcement yesterday. I mean, we're talking about it. Some people will talk about it.
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But it's not a new news story. He already announced that this would happen. The difference is now he's
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following through, which is important if he is going to run for president in 2024. It looks like he is.
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He'll be able to point and say, look, I don't just have the right gut instincts.
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I don't just come out with big announcements that grab headlines, but I actually follow through with
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them. You can trust me to do what I am promising you that I will do. The other reason that this
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looks really good for Ron DeSantis is it shows that Ron DeSantis' conservatism is a conservatism
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that is much more comfortable wielding state power than the conservatism of many of the squishes in the
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party. Many people in the Republican party, especially over the last 20 years, their conservatism
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has amounted to, hey, I'm not going to do anything. You elect me and I'm just basically going to go
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home and I'm not going to, the most I'm going to do is deregulate and give corporations more power
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and let them do whatever they want. That was the heavily libertarian scented conservative base
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movement kind of conservatism in recent years. And the reason that that was attractive to people is
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because big government has done all sorts of bad things. And so we were reacting against that.
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The other reason is because we had, we've just fought a cold war for the second half of the 20th
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century. And so opposition to big government was something that united a lot of conservatives because
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our enemy was the Soviet Union and communism. We are now seeing some of the excesses in the other
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direction. When you privatize everything, when you give woke corporations free reign to do whatever
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the hell that they want, that also can hurt conservatives. If it's big government taking
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my rights, that's bad. If it's Google taking my rights, that's also bad. If it's Disney transing
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my kids, that is just as bad as if Dr. Fauci were transing my kids or Rochelle Walensky or who's that
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guy? The guy who is the assistant health secretary, Richard Levine, that guy. It's just as bad. I don't
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care whether it's a public or allegedly private entity transing my kids. All I care about is are
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my kids being transed? Are my rights being taken away? Is my way of life being upended? And a lot
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of conservatives, just they're not there yet. They don't quite understand how to articulate why it is
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a good thing sometimes to wield state power against woke corporations. Ron DeSantis can do it. He can
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articulate it and he is actually doing it. And the other Republicans who want to look good coming into 2024
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are going to have to get on the stick. Now, some Republicans just don't get it.
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Some, you know, we talk about the good Republicans. You know, DeSantis, I think he's doing a great job.
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You know, I love Donald Trump. I think he's the greatest president of my lifetime. You know,
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I like a lot of other Republicans, Ted Cruz in particular, love Ted Cruz. And there are a number
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of others doing really great work out there. Glenn Youngkin's doing good work by Virginia standards.
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A lot of good stuff. Then there are some Republicans, not so much. I'm talking about Mitt Romney.
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Mitt Romney is walking up at the State of the Union the other night. And one of these little
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cat fighty high school cafeteria moments, he walks up to George Santos, the embattled,
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endemically dishonest Republican from Long Island. And he says, you don't belong here.
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You can see it. There's Santos there. And Romney just turns to him. You don't belong here. There's
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a clip that came out later of Romney walking with a gaggle of reporters. And he's angry. He's fired
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up. He says, this guy, this is George Santos. Yeah, you're damn right I gave him a piece of my mind.
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You just said you don't belong here. Yeah. Why did you say that? I didn't expect that he'd be
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standing there trying to shake hands with every senator in the president of the United States.
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That's the guy. Given the fact that he's under ethics investigation, he should be sitting in the
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back row and staying quiet instead of parading in front of the president and people coming into the
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room. He says he, you know, that he embellished his record. Look, embellishing is saying you've
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got an A when you get an A minus. Lying is saying you graduated from a college you didn't even attend.
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And he shouldn't be in Congress. And they're going to go through the process and hopefully get him out.
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And but he shouldn't be there. And if he had any shame at all, he wouldn't be there.
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Why did you make a point to say that, though? I mean, it was kind of out of your way.
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He was standing right there in the aisle shaking hands with everybody.
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Did he respond to you? He may have. I didn't hear
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yes. Yeah, let me tell you reporters why I just this other Republican. He's just absolutely
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terrible. That's right. I gave him a piece of my mind, that Republican. It's outrageous that
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that Republican who was elected by his constituents is here serving in the Congress. I tell you,
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code Knowles. Mitt Romney says George Santos doesn't deserve to serve in Congress because he's a liar.
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Okay, fine. Yeah, he is a liar. He's got all these sorts of shady things in his past. It's kind of like
00:24:04.400
a lame joke at this point. That lame jokes can be funny for a little bit, and then they become
00:24:11.480
really, really unfunny. And then they get really, really funny again. That's the arc of weak jokes.
00:24:18.360
That's how I feel about George Santos. He got elected, and I liked that he got elected. It's
00:24:24.280
cool that a Republican got elected in Long Island. And then I started to not like him because it turned
00:24:28.440
out he's lied about everything. His education, his professional background, probably his sexual
00:24:32.220
desires. He might be under indictment in Brazil or something. So I had lied about that. But then
00:24:37.280
the more that came out, the more that came out, I thought, no, this is freaking hilarious. I now get
00:24:43.500
a huge kick out of this guy. If the Democrats get their eccentric figures, okay, fine. George Santos
00:24:50.820
is there. We have a razor-thin majority anyway. I get a huge kick out of it. Romney can't. He can't
00:24:56.020
take it. I say, okay, I'm not. It's not that I don't understand Mitt Romney's opposition to a
00:25:04.660
Republican who lies about everything. But you just heard the way that he talks about George Santos
00:25:10.140
specifically for lying about his educational background. Now listen to the way that Mitt
00:25:15.900
Romney talks about Joe Biden, who famously had to drop out of the 1988 presidential race for lying
00:25:21.740
about his educational background, for plagiarizing, for being the most dishonest politician in the
00:25:26.600
whole field that year. He's, Joe Biden, one of the most dishonest politicians in the country. That
00:25:32.440
has been an actual distinguishing marker of his career. This is how Romney talks about him.
00:25:37.700
You know, I just got back from hearing the president deliver his State of the Union address.
00:25:43.760
The president's a friend. I like Joe Biden. I have come to know him over the years.
00:25:49.380
And he's a patriotic man who believes very deeply in the things that he talks about.
00:25:55.980
I was pleased that he spoke about Ukraine and about our commitment to preserve democracy there
00:26:02.800
and around the world, to preserve sovereignty of nations.
00:26:06.420
There it is. A Republican lies in an over-the-top way. This is hideous. I'm going to give him a piece
00:26:13.340
of my mind on the floor. He needs to sit in the back of the room if he should be kicked out of Congress.
00:26:17.360
A Democrat lies in a really egregious way. A Democrat who is a giddy at the prospect of
00:26:24.740
slaughtering babies, castrating kids, redefining marriage, destroying, to say nothing of destroying
00:26:29.540
the American economy, potentially provoking World War III. Oh, he's wonderful. He's my good friend.
00:26:35.440
Oh, Joe Biden. What a wonderful man. I liked the State of the Union. He was pretty good, actually.
00:26:40.500
Yep, there it is. There it is. You saw this. Romney did the same thing a year or two years ago.
00:26:48.820
January 6th, worst event ever in American history, terrible insurrection.
00:26:53.940
BLM, which burned the country down and killed dozens of people. Oh, I'm going to go march with
00:26:58.380
BLM. Mitt Romney marched with BLM. Mitt Romney marched with people who engaged in a much
00:27:05.940
more serious insurrection, a much deadlier political movement, an infinitely deadlier
00:27:11.660
political movement than January 6th. But Mitt Romney does it because his real constituents,
00:27:19.140
the real people he cares about, are not his constituents over in Utah. It's not his fellow
00:27:24.160
Republicans in the U.S. Senate. It's that group of reporters all standing around him. Yeah, good job,
00:27:31.540
Mitt. I've got a strange new respect for you as you attack Republicans all the time.
00:27:35.940
Yeah. Comparing those two guys, I'm not saying that I like George Santos.
00:27:40.720
I'm not saying I'd trust the guy. Forget as a representative, I wouldn't trust him with my
00:27:45.760
money. I wouldn't trust him with my loved ones. I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.
00:27:50.000
But you tell me right now, I can have a George Santos or a Mitt Romney. Give me Santos any day.
00:27:54.740
At least Santos is an honest liar. At least, but Mitt Romney, gosh, awful. At least George Santos is
00:28:03.300
opposing Joe Biden. At least George Santos fights the Democrats. Mitt Romney, Joe Biden,
00:28:10.920
he's a great friend of mine. What a great guy he is, isn't he? Speaking of liberal Republicans,
00:28:16.360
liberal Republican in the House Nancy Mace just came out at a congressional hearing
00:28:21.240
to do a really wonderful thing to expose the terrible side effects of the Fauci ouchie.
00:28:32.300
Twitter files make it apparent Twitter worked overtime to suppress accurate COVID information.
00:28:38.560
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is a professor of medicine at Stanford who once tweeted an article he wrote about
00:28:43.820
natural immunity. Thanks to Elon Musk's release of the Twitter files, we learned some of his tweets were
00:28:48.860
tagged with the label of trends, blacklist. Apparently, the views of a Stanford doctor are
00:28:54.440
disinformation to you people. I, along with many Americans, have long-term effects from COVID. Not
00:29:00.240
only was I a long hauler, but I have effects from the vaccine. It wasn't the first shot,
00:29:04.840
but it was the second shot that I now developed asthma that has never gone away since I had the
00:29:09.640
second shot. I have tremors in my left hand, and I have the occasional heart pain that no doctor
00:29:16.500
can explain, and I've had a battery of tests. I find it extremely alarming Twitter's unfettered
00:29:23.100
censorship spread into medical fields and affected millions of Americans by suppressing expert opinions
00:29:28.860
from doctors and censoring those who disagree with the CDC. I have great regrets about getting
00:29:34.060
the shot because of the health issues that I now have that I don't think are ever going to go away.
00:29:39.340
I love it. Preach, lady. That's great. Especially coming from Nancy Mace,
00:29:44.260
because Nancy Mace is not some rock-ribbed conservative Republican. Far from it.
00:29:48.340
She is one of the most liberal Republicans in the whole caucus. And even on this issue,
00:29:53.820
Nancy Mace, not that long ago, was going on CNN to promote the experimental drug.
00:29:59.320
I've been a proponent of vaccinations and wearing masks when we need to. When we had
00:30:04.580
the Delta variant raging in South Carolina, I wrote an op-ed to my community. And I've worked
00:30:10.100
with our State Department of Health. I've run ads encouraging my district to go and get vaccinated.
00:30:15.760
And when we have these variants and we have these spikes to take every precaution from washing our
00:30:19.860
hands to wearing the N95 or KN95 masks, more than the medical masks, there is a significant,
00:30:26.220
statistically significant number of people that are protected from COVID when they wear those masks.
00:30:31.320
So it's ironic that you've got Nancy Mace at the big tech hearing complaining about censorship of
00:30:38.500
mis- and disinformation. She did spread a lot of mis- and disinformation. And I think she did it
00:30:43.200
honestly. She spread the information that she was unfortunately believing from the crooked left-wing
00:30:50.320
public health authorities. And now, after having done that for quite some time, she says, wait a second,
00:30:55.500
I got the stupid shot. I regret it. I shouldn't have gotten it. I have health issues from it now.
00:30:59.080
And it's outrageous that you, big tech, you were censoring information.
00:31:05.620
The lesson here is that the best shot that we have of getting answers to all of this,
00:31:14.360
the best shot that we have at stopping the censorship, specifically of the medical information
00:31:18.940
on the internet, is when the vaccine harms people in power. That's it. I'm sorry to say it. I'm sorry
00:31:27.600
that Nancy Mace is suffering side effects. I'm sorry that lots of people are suffering side effects
00:31:31.780
from the experimental drug. That's a bad thing. It is simply a fact, though, that the only way we're
00:31:38.700
going to get to the truth of this, we're going to expose the truth, and we're going to stop the
00:31:45.300
censorship of the truth. It's not when great-aunt Sally had side effects from the vaccine. It's not
00:31:53.220
when your kid gets myocarditis because his schoolmate didn't get the vaccine. It's when
00:31:58.680
members of Congress have side effects. It's when people with a platform and with the ability to
00:32:05.560
wield political power, when they deal with it, that's when you're going to get answers. I said
00:32:09.800
the other day, when we were talking about that viral clip of a little girl being beaten up on a
00:32:14.180
school bus, I said, nothing's going to happen here. There's not going to be some new rule.
00:32:19.400
There's not going to be some new law because the people who make the rules and the laws don't send
00:32:23.780
their kids to those schools. So they just don't care. It's a hot political potato. No one wants to
00:32:31.000
touch this. If you touch it, there's a risk you're going to be called a racist. People are called
00:32:35.380
racist for everything these days. It's expensive. It's hard. So they're just not going to touch.
00:32:40.160
If their kids went to those schools, you know damn well those schools would be fixed in five minutes.
00:32:45.040
Okay, I think that's what we're going to start seeing with the vaccines. Now that people in power,
00:32:50.120
are dealing with the side effects, all of a sudden you're going to see far less of a push
00:32:54.040
for the vaccine mandates. Now this hearing on big tech was absolutely magnificent. There's much to
00:33:00.780
say about it as pertains to AOC. She had some real, real faceplant moments and it was the highlight
00:33:08.760
of the hearing. I'm going to get to more of it tomorrow. There's one that I have to get to,
00:33:14.440
those AOC complaining about the Republicans complaining about the suppression of the Hunter
00:33:23.100
Biden laptop story. New York Post had this alleged information and was trying to publish it without
00:33:30.160
any corroboration, without any backup information. They were trying to publish it to Twitter.
00:33:35.200
Twitter did not let them and now they were upset. I believe that political operatives who sought to
00:33:40.480
inject explosive disinformation with the Washington Post couldn't get away with it and now they're
00:33:47.440
livid and they want the ability to do it again. They want the ability to inject this again. So
00:33:53.320
they've dragged a social media platform here in Congress. They're weaponizing the use of this
00:33:58.660
committee so that they can do it again. A whole hearing about a 24-hour hiccup in a right-wing
00:34:05.260
political operation. That is why we are here right now. And it is, it's just an abuse of public
00:34:12.540
resources and abuse of public time. We could be talking about healthcare. We could be talking about
00:34:16.960
bringing down the cost of prescription drugs. We could be talking about abortion rights, civil rights,
00:34:21.040
voting rights. But instead we're talking about Hunter Biden's half-fake laptop story. I mean,
00:34:26.880
this is an embarrassment. There it is. There it is. So first of all, the factual claims she's making
00:34:31.660
are not true. She says it was a half-fake laptop story. It's not. The Hunter Biden laptop story was
00:34:36.360
completely 100% correct. It was not a right-wing political operation or if the right-wing obviously
00:34:42.820
liked the story because it exposed the truth about the Biden family and a lot of crimes.
00:34:46.920
But it was a true story. They got it completely right and the Libs censored it anyway.
00:34:55.280
What AOC just said there at the end though was her Hillary Clinton moment. What she said at the end
00:35:01.480
there was her Benghazi hearing, what difference at this point does it make? Who cares? Who cares
00:35:08.300
about the Hunter Biden laptop story? That was the commentary. The commentary from the hearing was,
00:35:13.400
are we wasting our time? Who cares about the Hunter Biden laptop story? You do. You guys obviously
00:35:21.640
care. You obviously cared enough to instantly weaponize all of big tech to censor this story.
00:35:31.440
Not just on the public platforms. You got big tech to prevent people from privately messaging the story.
00:35:38.140
You thought this story was such a big deal. The story that's been proven 100% true. Even Hunter
00:35:43.860
Biden admits it. Now he's suing actually. Wait a second. Okay. Years later, I'm willing to admit
00:35:49.980
that it was my laptop. How'd you get it? I'm going to start suing you for it. You guys cared so much.
00:35:55.580
You thought that this would be so detrimental to Biden's presidential campaign. Polls after the
00:35:59.280
election showed that 12% of Biden voters said had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop story,
00:36:04.140
they would not have voted for Joe Biden. Could have been the difference between Biden winning and
00:36:07.960
losing. You guys cared that much. And now you're pretending that we're the ones who are obsessed
00:36:14.180
here. This is what the libs do all the time. They say, oh, who cares about transgender bathrooms?
00:36:19.840
You do. That's why you're trying to change the bathrooms. We conservatives had no problem with men
00:36:24.680
using the men's room and women using the women's room. You're the one who made a big deal about it.
00:36:28.100
You're the ones that started passing all these crazy laws and showing up to the state capitals and
00:36:32.640
screaming and crying and pretending that men are women. You, you're the ones doing it.
00:36:36.540
And conservatives should not fall for this. Do not fall for that, that trick and that trap
00:36:42.660
of saying, well, you guys, if you, if you show any interest in this issue at all, you're, you guys
00:36:47.220
are obsessives. You're fanatics. No, no, no, no. We like the truth. We care about the truth. You're
00:36:52.940
the ones starting all of the aggression in the culture wars. And now you got caught. We got you dead to
00:36:58.020
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00:37:05.960
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producers to incorporate cricket powder into its flour-based products, not because it tastes better,
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but because the political elites have deemed that eating ze bugs is better for the environment. So
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dailywireplus.com today. Our economy is in absolute shambles. Things are looking worse and worse.
00:38:24.580
And when I need economic advice, since I'm, I don't know anything about economics,
00:38:29.560
well, I've got a great resource that I can call. People who have supported this show for a very long
00:38:32.860
time, that would be our friends over at Birch Gold. The national debt is $31.5 trillion.
00:38:39.280
The Fed met last week to promise that everything's going to work out just fine. We've heard those
00:38:45.100
promises before. Hasn't always been great. I can barely afford eggs, okay? Certainly not the eggs that
00:38:51.160
my wife wants to buy. She wants to buy the college-educated eggs that are not only raised
00:38:55.520
in pastures, but also drive around in Corvettes and get foot massages. So the economy is in a very,
00:39:03.660
very difficult situation. And when I want to make sense of the economy, who do I call? Who do I call?
00:39:09.360
I call my friends over at Birch Gold Group, specifically Philip Patrick, who is the precious
00:39:15.740
metals specialist. We had Philip over, I think it was maybe a year ago or so, came on and was able to
00:39:23.640
illuminate my basic economic ignorance. And so I'm hoping that we can have a similar effect. Again,
00:39:30.720
thank you, sir, for coming on the show. Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure.
00:39:35.580
So how am I supposed to make sense of this? Because I remember 10 years ago,
00:39:39.740
I was really concerned about the national debt. There's a little more than 10 years ago.
00:39:43.460
The conservatives actually were talking about this issue. And that's back when debt to GDP was
00:39:49.020
about 90%. Today, debt to GDP is about 123%. National debt pushing up on $32 trillion. That's
00:39:57.460
about, what, 90,000-ish per citizen, quarter million per taxpayer, because those are obviously
00:40:05.220
two different groups of people. So what does it mean for the future of the economy? I mean,
00:40:12.000
what does it mean that eggs now cost $9 a dozen?
00:40:16.260
I mean, look, people are feeling this day to day. And we've got this sort of very tough situation
00:40:21.360
where wages are not increasing anywhere near close to the cost of goods and services and
00:40:27.360
essentially headline inflation. And that becomes very problematic because that's when people's
00:40:31.980
paycheck doesn't do what it did last month or the month before. It's a very tough climate that
00:40:36.920
we're in. We're facing this concept of stagflation, right? Stunted economic growth coupled with rising
00:40:43.420
inflation. It's very painful. We had it 70s to 80s was the last time here in the United States.
00:40:48.960
It's a perfect storm. We've got a lot of tough issues coming together at once.
00:40:53.360
Now, Philip, what do you make of Fed Chairman Jerome Powell saying that actually you don't need to worry
00:40:59.500
about increased inflation? I think he said that the disinflationary process has begun.
00:41:05.020
You don't buy it. I just don't buy it at all, right? If we dig into the numbers,
00:41:10.640
it's pretty obvious. We haven't seen very many meaningful reductions. So headline inflation has
00:41:16.320
come down a little bit, but core inflation, and that is everything outside of food and energy,
00:41:21.340
is really sticky. What's interesting, though, is looking at where prices have fallen. They've
00:41:26.940
fallen in exactly two categories. One, gas, which surged, of course, a year ago,
00:41:32.720
and now is reverting back to the mean a little bit, and I think predominantly on the back of
00:41:37.440
demand destruction, and used cars and trucks, right? That's it. Everything else pretty much
00:41:43.720
has gone up. So this idea that we have a handle on inflation, I think, is a little bit of a fallacy.
00:41:49.220
In fact, former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers came out and pointed out, he said, look, inflation is
00:41:55.060
still at levels that would have been deeply alarming just two years ago. More than that, though,
00:42:01.260
I think we've got to look at the bigger picture, right? 89% of CEOs are predicting a recession this
00:42:06.400
year. We're seeing very large layoffs in the tech sector. Corporate spending on equipment has plunged
00:42:12.660
now to the same levels as the worst of the sort of pre-pandemic panic. My point is simply that this
00:42:19.760
rosy picture, strong jobs reports or declining inflation, it's a little bit of an illusion. And I
00:42:25.600
think CEOs who are operating in the real world, they know it, and they're already tightening their
00:42:30.240
belts in anticipation, I think, of a very tough few years ahead. So yeah, tough times ahead.
00:42:36.600
Do you think that the political debates going on right now, specifically over, say,
00:42:42.140
the debt ceiling, which is this recurrent, it's now a perennial political debate, and the Republicans
00:42:47.880
don't want to raise the debt ceiling, and the Democrats do, and then eventually they end up doing it.
00:42:52.640
Although now the GOP has the House, so I guess it could be a little more tense. Do you think that
00:42:58.240
is going to have serious economic consequences?
00:43:02.480
The debt ceiling debate is incredibly important. I mean, you mentioned at the beginning of this
00:43:07.240
how debt has expanded over the last 10 years, debt to GDP. I mean, the US's debt to GDP position is in
00:43:14.620
line with countries like Venezuela, and I mean, it's bizarre at the moment. But the debt ceiling
00:43:20.240
debate is very, very important, right? Right now, as you mentioned, we're sort of at this impasse,
00:43:26.640
right? The Republicans are saying, look, we're only going to raise the debt ceiling if we make some
00:43:31.980
cutbacks. We curb this spending. And the Democrats are coming out and saying, no, right, we don't. We
00:43:38.360
want a clean debt ceiling height. We want no conditions on the debt ceiling height. Now, the
00:43:43.920
Republican side is one I understand, right? We're amassing debt. They're saying, look, if we're going to
00:43:48.100
continue to spend money, we need to try and curb it in certain areas and sort of bring it down.
00:43:53.300
It's the Biden regime's position that I find very tough to understand, right? They've drawn a line
00:43:59.440
in the sand. They're saying, look, we don't want to negotiate. This isn't a binary issue of principle
00:44:04.640
here. We're not talking about abortion or gun control. We're talking about fiscal discipline.
00:44:09.160
This is about balancing the books. Coming to the table unwilling to negotiate is a bizarre and,
00:44:15.060
quite frankly, indefensible position. What they've issued is essentially an ultimatum and it's just
00:44:21.440
not going to work. Talking about what's at stake here, though, there is a lot at stake, right? The
00:44:27.780
debt ceiling is the only limit we have on infinite government spending. The Federal Reserve, they can
00:44:32.840
print infinite amounts of dollars. That's not the problem. The problem is that our leadership has been
00:44:38.080
running up debt ever since 2001. That was the last year that income exceeded expenditure here in the
00:44:45.800
United States. And quite simply, that cannot last forever. It is insustainable. So this debt ceiling
00:44:52.140
debate is very, very important. The Republicans won't allow a default, but they've got to force some
00:44:57.900
concessions. It's a great point that that unlike certain political issues, this isn't simply black or
00:45:04.460
white, you know, an issue of principle. The fact that Biden refuses to negotiate about money, about
00:45:11.160
dollars, which obviously, you know, if we can't come to some kind of compromises and agreements about
00:45:17.080
dollars, we're not going to do about anything. But then even, I don't want to let the Republicans
00:45:21.060
off the hook. The fact that the Republican leader has said that entitlement reform is completely off the
00:45:28.060
table is, I get it, entitlement reform is not a popular political issue. But entitlements are 46%
00:45:34.140
of the federal budget. So if you're not going to touch entitlements, the only way that you could
00:45:38.660
possibly get down to balancing the budget would be to cut 85% of all other spending, which is
00:45:45.320
impossible, right? You're not going to get rid of all, effectively, all government spending other than
00:45:49.700
a handful of entitlement programs. So we're just sort of stuck. And so what are we going to do?
00:45:55.520
We're just going to keep amassing debt until our dollars and our political influence around the
00:46:00.960
world is worthless. I mean, sadly, it's looking that way. And this is why it becomes an issue of
00:46:06.940
leadership. But you're right, it's both sides of the fence. Like I said, it's been since 2001 that
00:46:12.060
we haven't managed to really get a handle on this. We've had Republicans and Democrats. So this is a
00:46:16.980
political issue, and we've got to curb it. At the end of the day, over the last 300 years,
00:46:21.980
they've been 700 currencies. And they've gone one of two ways. They either significantly
00:46:27.520
devalue through money printing, right? Pound sterling being one of those, or they disappear
00:46:33.740
entirely. So this is a strange position. It's not one that we haven't seen before in history.
00:46:38.620
But if we want to keep our position as global reserve, currency, world leader, this is a problem
00:46:44.820
we have to get in check, and we have to do it now. It's very important. I know that your expertise,
00:46:49.680
obviously, Philip, is in gold. And I, being of Italian extraction, know a thing or two about gold
00:46:55.900
myself. I'm not buying up quite as much as the central banks are, but the Italians, they like
00:47:01.920
some nice jewelry every now and again. So I read somewhere that we're seeing an uptick in gold buying
00:47:09.720
from global central banks. I don't know anything about that, and I certainly don't know what that
00:47:17.060
means. An uptick is absolutely the case. Central bank worldwide bought more gold than they have in
00:47:25.840
over 60 years. So I think the writing is on the wall. Central banks increasing gold holdings,
00:47:32.020
Russians, Chinese, Europeans as well. What we're seeing is a global trend of de-dollarization. And
00:47:38.780
I think looking at what the US Federal Reserve is doing, increasing the amount of dollars. Listen,
00:47:44.660
80% of dollars that exist worldwide didn't exist three years ago. That's the scale of this policy,
00:47:51.640
right? Look, central banks around the world, they're holding dollars. The more money we print,
00:47:58.100
ultimately, it leads to a devaluation of those dollars. And shorter term, gold is the way to
00:48:03.400
hedge against that. When the dollar goes down, gold prices move up. And I think what central banks are
00:48:08.980
doing is saying, look, the Fed are printing money. Let's hedge some of that exposure using gold.
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What's true for them is true for us as individuals, albeit on a much, much smaller scale,
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right? You know, we're holding dollars as well. Those dollars are losing buying power. And gold is
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one of the best ways to prevent that, right? They go up as the dollar goes down. They increase with
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the cost of living. So they're a very good way for governments to hedge dollar decline,
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but for individuals as well. And that's why we're seeing that trend.
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No, I tell you, I had this thought. Fortunately, right now, people obviously want to have a
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diversified portfolio. And that includes, especially if you're kind of conservative in
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your economic thinking, that is going to include some precious metals. It's almost certainly going
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to include gold. I was kicking myself, though, because while I'm not very exposed right now on
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stocks, which is good. That saved me some money in recent years. I've just got too much cash. And so
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you see, you know, as you see, I mean, one never has too much cash. But in terms of where you're
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diversifying your portfolio, if you've got a lot of your money in cash, then when inflation hits at
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record levels, as it has in recent years, you are just burning money. Well, I'm glad you've,
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Philip underscored my family's and my culture's natural inclination to get gold. Not just for the
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pinky rings, though, you know, maybe in larger quantities than that. Philip, thank you so much
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That's good. Philip Patrick, thank you so much for coming on. As always, we'll see you next time
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