Ep. 1185 - Elon Musk VS. The Totalitarian Psychos at WEF
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Joe Biden and Pete Buttigieg are trying to turn climate change into a political football, but it s not just about climate change, it s about climate apocalypse. Michael Knowles explains why. Plus, an interview with Lindsay Johnston, a wife and mother of two daughters who lives in the one-mile evacuation zone in East Palestine.
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Remember when the globalist elite told us that we needed a great reset of our economy,
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political order, and really our whole society as a result of COVID?
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Well, even before COVID ended, the Secretary General of the UN had begun to argue that the
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real purpose of the great reset was not exactly to deal with the coronavirus,
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In overcoming the pandemic, we can also avert climate cataclysm and restore our planet.
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This is an epic policy test, but ultimately, this is a moral test.
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The trillions of dollars needed for COVID recovery is money that we are borrowing from future generations,
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And we cannot use those resources to lock in policies that burden them with a mountain of depth on a broken planet.
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We have a chance not simply to reset the world economy, but to transform it.
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A sustainable economy, driven by renewable energies, will create new jobs, cleaner infrastructure, and a resilient future.
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And an inclusive world will help ensure that people can enjoy better health and the full respect of their human rights
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COVID recovery and our planet's repair must be the two sides of the same coin.
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Now, you might be wondering, how did COVID policy become climate policy?
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Well, the same way that inflation policy became climate policy.
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When the Biden administration pushed his Inflation Reduction Act,
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only to admit immediately after its passing that the bill wasn't really about inflation.
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Inflation, which it didn't alleviate and probably made worse, but instead about fighting climate change.
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Well, just yesterday, the UN Secretary General explained that the reason the COVID policy is now about climate change
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Rising sea levels combined with a deep intrusion of salt water
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will make large parts of their huge deltas simply uninhabitable.
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We see similar threats in the Mekong Delta and beyond.
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The consequences of all of these are unthinkable.
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Low-lying communities and the entire countries could disappear forever.
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We would witness a mass exodus of entire populations on a biblical scale.
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Kind of a funny phrase for a globalist elite that openly mocks religion,
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the traditional moral order, even the existence of God.
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But it makes sense when you realize that to a materialist, climate is literally everything.
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When religious politicians want to push some policy or another,
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they tend to invoke God, the Ten Commandments, the natural law.
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These modern, secular, globalist politicians can't do that.
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And so their arguments transform into weird superstitions about the weather.
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Claims that are just as apocalyptic as any religiously motivated political movement in history.
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The only difference is that, while the old-timey religious politicians have traditionally been constrained by the fear of God,
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these people have nothing holding them back in principle from wielding whatever power they want.
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Later on in the show, we have a really important interview.
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You know that I think that pretty much only one news story matters right now,
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and it happens to be the story that the establishment media will not talk about.
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The train derailed and sent a ton of poison all up into the air in East Palestine, Ohio.
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We've got Lindsay Johnston, who is a wife and mother of two daughters,
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who lives in the one-mile evacuation zone in East Palestine.
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So because, unfortunately, the residents of East Palestine are not getting very much airtime right now,
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and Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden are trying to just blow past this whole thing,
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we will have her on the show a little bit later.
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My favorite comment yesterday is from Frank S., who says,
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Chelsea Handler's life without kids is so great that she had to make up 90% of her day.
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In her video, which was supposed to be funny, I guess, she says,
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I'm childless, so I wake up in the morning, and then I go right back to bed.
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And then I pleasure myself, and she goes through some kind of normal things,
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And she says, then I go to Paris, and then I kill Hitler, and then I do this, and then I do that.
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And the joke here, I don't know if she really intended this,
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is that all the people who say that they don't want to have kids,
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and they don't want a family because they just want to amuse themselves all day long,
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The millennials who say, oh, no, we don't want kids.
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Brunch goes for like an hour and a half or two hours.
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What are you going to do with the rest of your day?
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What are you going to do with the rest of your life?
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If you want to just amuse yourself all the time,
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Speaking of one world government, speaking of the United Nations and the great resetters
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and the globalists trying to take all of our political power away,
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Elon Musk just showed up to the World Government Summit
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and used his appearance as an opportunity to attack the very idea of world government.
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One thing I should say, and I know this is called the World Government Summit,
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but I think we should be maybe a little bit concerned about
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actually becoming too much of a single world government.
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If I may say that we want to avoid creating a civilizational risk by having,
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frankly, this may sound a little odd, too much cooperation between governments.
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You know, if you look at, say, history and the rise and fall of civilizations,
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really all throughout history civilizations have risen and fallen,
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but it hasn't meant the doom of humanity as a whole
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because there have been all these separate civilizations that were separated by great distances.
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And so, you know, say, like, while Rome was falling, you know, Islam was rising.
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And so you had, like, you know, the sort of caliphate doing incredibly well
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And that actually ended up being a source of preservation of knowledge and many scientific advancements.
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Well, Elon every day more and more shows that he is the people's billionaire.
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He actually is doing things that matter politically to take power back from this crooked leftist globalist elite.
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Obviously, he cracked the monopoly of the libs on big tech and through Twitter and then released the Twitter files
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Now he's making really important points at the One World Government Summit.
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You know that I am no small government conservative.
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I don't think the founding fathers were small government conservatives.
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I think the idea of a small government in a country of 330 million people that spans from sea to shiny sea and has an empire overseas is laughable.
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And it's never happened anywhere and it will never happen in real life.
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But I am a strong proponent of limited government.
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I want government to be confined to its proper limits.
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And what these globalists, what the great resetters, what the one world government type elites want is no limits whatsoever.
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It's amazing that we look back on forms of government from the 17th century, from the 16th century.
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In fact, you had divine right monarchies who believed that they had a right from God to rule their nations.
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Divine right monarchs claimed much less power than our current globalist elites.
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Because divine right monarchs, at least, believed that they were held in check by God.
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And they were quite accountable to somebody because if they acted in a way that was unjust, they were going to roast for eternity.
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Our current globalist elites, they don't believe that their power to rule comes from God.
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They think their power to rule comes from their ability to get that power.
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And they've done a bang-up job of taking power away from you in recent years.
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And so there are no limits, in principle, to what they will do.
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Divine right monarchs at least appreciated the principle of subsidiarity.
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The emperors, the Holy Roman emperors, the emperors throughout history at least recognized the principle of subsidiarity.
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That you would have decisions made at the most local level possible where those decisions could be made with competence.
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Where power could be exercised with competence.
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And then if it couldn't at a more local level, then you'd bring it up to another level, and another level, and another level.
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You make decisions at the town level, then at the state, the county maybe, then at the state, then and only then at the national level.
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At least that was the idea that our country was founded on.
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As this liberal, globalist elite that wants more and more power at higher and higher levels has taken over.
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And very few people are standing up against it.
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Very few people who at least could be invited to these sorts of events are standing up against it.
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Now, speaking of governing the world, the U.S. diplomat who's sent to Afghanistan has obviously her work cut out for her.
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Karen Decker, the chargée d'affaires of the U.S. mission to Afghanistan.
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This is the top diplomat that we have in Afghanistan.
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Karen Decker recognizes that Afghans, and especially Afghan women, have a lot of challenges right now.
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And so she's offering them some suggestions on how to improve their lives.
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Are Afghans familiar with hashtag black girl magic and the movement it inspired?
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Afghan women come up to the embassy or consulate or whatever the U.S. has in Afghanistan.
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She goes, I think the best I can do is a tweet about black girl magic.
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Forget about money and guns and food and opportunities and power.
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I'm not familiar with the movement that it inspired.
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And I am totally convinced that black girl magic will not solve the problems that Afghan women face.
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I'm not sure that anything will solve the political problems Afghan women face, but certainly not black girl magic.
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I don't think Black History Month will solve their problems.
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And I don't think even Beyonce will solve their problems.
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This is not the first crazy tweet that Karen Decker has sent out.
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Karen Decker tweeted out not that long ago, quote,
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In 1960, four black students ordered coffee at a diner in Greensboro, North Carolina.
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They were refused service, but they would not leave.
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They came back the next day and a sit-in movement was born.
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Has nonviolent protest ever been successful in Afghanistan?
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No, nonviolent protest has never been successful in Afghanistan
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because if you engaged in a nonviolent protest,
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if you went into the Woolworths of Afghanistan and sat down at the lunch counter,
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And that didn't happen here in America because America is a Christian country,
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And America is Western and comes from a civilization that is animated by Christianity.
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And that's different than a civilization animated by Islam.
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And because America has a tradition that beginning in the 18th century starts to become a little bit more liberal
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And the sort of nonviolent sit-ins that Karen Decker is referring to here
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Whereas in Afghanistan, they wouldn't do a damn thing.
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And Black History Month isn't going to help in any way to alleviate the plight of Afghan people.
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These American libs, oh my goodness gracious,
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every time an American diplomat sends out a tweet, I become about 25% more isolationist.
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I'm not isolationist by nature, but every time I see some of this cringe-inducing nonsense,
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this liberal piffle clap trap, I want to pull my hair out,
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and I want to build a gigantic wall all around the continental United States,
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and I want to just divorce our country from the rest of the world.
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It's not just that Karen Decker is crazy and silly and absurd.
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She is articulating the beliefs of the liberal elites who control our country.
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It's absurd to try to apply these lessons to Afghanistan.
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Hence the problems that Afghanistan is in right now.
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What she is articulating is the slogans of the civil rights movement
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and pretending that the slogans of the 1960s civil rights movement in America
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Why does everything seem to come back to the civil rights movement?
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Even when we talk about conservatives, even when we talk about traditional American ideas,
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for some reason, it always seems to be framed through the lens of the civil rights movement.
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Even when we talk about the Second Amendment, we say, well, this is really about civil rights.
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And it's kind of a new iteration of the civil rights movement.
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Well, the reason is that the civil rights movement was so successful that it is essentially the
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constitution that we have been living under for the past 60 years.
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This was the thesis of a book by Christopher Caldwell, The Age of Entitlement.
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Really, really great book, which argues that we now have two constitutions in America.
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We've got the original one, the U.S. Constitution, you know, the one on parchment with the silly
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And then we've got another one, which was the civil rights constitution from the 1960s.
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And those two things are in conflict with one another, certainly on the matter of freedom of
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association, but on a number of other matters too.
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And his argument is that all of the major constitutional conflicts that we've been dealing with since
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then are a result of the discrepancies between these two rather different constitutions that we
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are simultaneously attempting to live under, and now apparently to export overseas.
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I don't think it's going to help the women in Kabul.
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Speaking of black people, the Georgia state senator, Emmanuel Jones, just highlighted the deep
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unseriousness, but political danger of this new kind of liberal activism in a way that's kind
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of banal, and we've all heard it before, but his explanation tells you a lot about it.
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This guy, state senator Jones, called Clarence Thomas, you're going to be shocked to hear it,
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Place a statue of Clarence Thomas on this grounds.
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We cannot avoid that conversation, so I'm not going to avoid it either.
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In the black community, we have an expression, and I don't want to use this label too deeply
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here because I'm just trying to tell you what we have in the African American community.
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When we talk about a person of color that goes back historically to the days of slavery and
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that person betraying his own community, we have a term in the black community.
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That term that we use is called Uncle Tom, and Uncle Tom is either a fictional or non-fictional
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I don't really know the origin of Uncle Tom, but it talks about a person who back during
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the days of slavery sold his soul to the slave masters.
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This Clarence Thomas, he's an Uncle Tom, and what's an Uncle Tom?
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You know, come to think of it, I have no idea who the hell Uncle Tom is, but I'm going to
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call Clarence Thomas one because I don't like him.
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Hey, I don't have any idea what I'm talking about, but screw you, Clarence Thomas.
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Those are the attacks generally on Clarence Thomas and on most conservatives, but it shows
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you something that I have been yelling about for years and wrote a whole book about that
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became a number one national bestseller, Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds, and that
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Idioms crop up that people often use unthinkingly.
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This guy is using the idiom Uncle Tom unthinkingly.
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He doesn't know what it means, but that happens for a lot of us all the time.
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Let there be light, forbidden fruit, am I my brother's keeper, fire and brimstone, the
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Most people don't know that they come from the Bible.
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In fact, many people who have never read the Bible, who don't believe in the Bible, will
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Culture works by certain texts, by certain pieces of art, by certain rituals, just creeping
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in and not only being inserted into your language, but actually coming to constitute your language.
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And by constituting your language, it constitutes the way that you think.
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And that's what you're seeing here with Uncle Tom.
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Uncle Tom. This guy has no idea what the context of Uncle Tom is.
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He just knows that Uncle Tom means black people aren't supposed to be conservative.
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He's not thinking. This is not a particularly conscious human being.
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And as they are pushing the Bible out of our culture, as they're pushing the Bible out of
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That's why they're so obsessed about doing that.
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That's why they're so obsessed about putting the weird gay porn and the weird liberal intersectionist
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The reason they're doing that is not so you can learn some lesson about a racial hierarchy.
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I mean, that's a secondary effect that they like.
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But it's more so that your brain just becomes shaped and filled with this kind of language,
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And so you will unthinkingly carry out their plans.
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You know, the European Union officially enacted a statute that allows food producers to incorporate
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cricket powder into its flour-based products, not because it tastes better, but because the
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political elites have deemed that eating the bugs is better for the environment.
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Now, speaking of actual political tokenism, China is attacking Pete Buttigieg.
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When I see China attacking Pete Buttigieg, I'm reminded of the Iran-Iraq war in which I
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I want the war to be drawn out as long as possible, and I want both sides to lose.
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China, through its propaganda outlet, the Global Times, is attacking Buttigieg over that
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train incident in Ohio that spewed all the poison into the air.
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We'll be speaking with a resident from East Palestine, Ohio, momentarily.
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They're attacking Pete Buttigieg, and they say, instead of fixing these problems, federal
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regulators have mulled a proposal backed by the rail lobby that would weaken existing brake
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Notably, Buttigieg does not have any experience in transportation and was essentially a vanity
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political appointee by the administration of President Joe Biden to help boost his political
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The secretary faced scrutiny recently, on and on and on.
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I mention this because it shows you something about propaganda.
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The Global Times is a state Chinese propaganda outlet.
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They're attacking Pete Buttigieg over the Ohio incident to distract from the spy balloon incident
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and China sending a bunch of surveillance over our country.
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But the charge is that Pete Buttigieg is a vanity political appointee in over his head, manifestly
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not capable of doing the job, who was only chosen because it helped to boost Joe Biden's political
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score because Mayor Pete has some appeal to the Democrat base, and he's gay, and he ran for president, and so
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We always think of propaganda as being dishonest, as being lies.
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The big lie is propaganda sometimes, which is a misunderstood phrase.
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Ironically, it is a phrase used by the Nazis to accuse the Jews of telling a lie.
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And now the Democrats use that phrase to call the Republicans Nazis without recognizing that
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in their very use of the phrase, the Democrats are putting themselves in the very same place
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And the propaganda China just put out about Mayor Pete happens to be true.
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Speaking of propaganda, New York Times right now has an op-ed called Steve Bannon's Podcast
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A large podcast study found that Mr. Bannon's war room had more falsehoods and unsubstantiated
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So this story is a New York Times article about a story that we covered on the show last week.
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And the story that we covered on the show last week was a story about me.
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Because it was a study that came out of the Brookings Institution that opened up with a quote from me
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in which I, on the show with Senator Cruz, said that podcasts are the place where you can say
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Opens up with two or three paragraphs about me and this interaction and about how conservatives lie on podcasts.
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Then the rest of the study goes on and says conservatives lie something like 11 times more than Democrats lie on podcasts.
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And so I was looking at that study from Brookings and I pointed it out on the show.
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I looked at just some of their most basic data points and I realized they were totally bogus.
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One of the little graphs they had there was about the number of episodes that podcasters have produced.
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And it had, I think all of the Daily Wire shows were listed there.
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And I was looking and I noticed that it said that Drew and Matt had produced more episodes of their podcasts than I had.
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No, it was just simply about the number of episodes produced.
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And I looked at that and I said, I know that's not true.
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I looked at episode number and I realized I have more episode numbers than Drew and Matt do.
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Simply because now Drew is once a week and Matt's show started after my show did.
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And I looked and I said, when did they start collecting data for this or stop collecting data?
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So I said, okay, well, Drew, I guess then because the show wasn't only once a week.
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But even a year ago, I still had substantially more episodes out than Matt did.
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And yet the graph said that Matt had substantially more episodes out than I did.
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All of which is to say the data in that study were bogus.
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Forget about how they measured disinformation spread in podcasts.
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The way that they measure that was by going to left-wing fact-checking outlets,
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which are really just left-wing opinion outlets.
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But they try to have this patina of credibility.
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I've got to take off my DNC t-shirt and put on my fact-checker t-shirt.
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I'm going to say that when those Republicans said that the Democrats are bad, that's 10 Pinocchios.
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And okay, now I'm going to go over here and I'm going to put my calculator statistician hat on.
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And they're going to be totally bogus, even on the most basic level, who is producing X number of podcasts.
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And then I'm going to put it here in this nice survey from a left-wing think tank called Brookings.
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And the article is that Republicans are big, fat liars.
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The process is you start with a leftist activist who says, I think Republicans are big, fat liars.
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And then you launder that impulse through bogus statisticians, bogus fact checkers, and a bogus news outlet called the New York Times, all staffed by the exact same leftist activists.
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And you say, well, this is very authoritative and scientific.
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And our scientific, authoritative, white lab coat, brilliant PhD credentialed conclusion is, Republicans are big, fat liars.
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That is, however, how fake news becomes established.
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I just happened to notice this one a little more clearly because it involved something that involved me and that I knew just immediately was false.
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And if you were still believing these people, I don't know that I can help you.
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Speaking of political campaigns, Nikki Haley has formally kicked off her presidential campaign.
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She had released a video some days ago saying, I'm going to run for president.
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But I know America is better than all the division and distractions that we have today.
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And I'm confident that the American people agree.
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Ready to move past the stale ideas and faded names of the past.
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And we are more than ready for a new generation to lead us into the future.
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Okay, what is Nikki doing here in this launch?
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She's opening up with a great dig at Joe Biden.
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She says, we're ready to move past the stale, old, desiccated names of the past.
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Biden's been in politics for over 50 years, national politics for over 50 years.
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It's a dig at maybe some of the other candidates.
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And it's doubling down on Nikki Haley's centrist cred.
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Nikki Haley has gotten some bona fides in lots of different areas of the right.
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She put her hand up at the UN and she stood up against the bad guys.
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She also was more moderate and conciliatory when she was a governor of South Carolina.
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She can also be a little more moderate in her speech.
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She's picking the center lane, as she has to.
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DeSantis is attempting to run to the right of Trump right now and is being fairly successful at it.
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Nikki Haley is not going to run to the right of those guys.
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If you get a Ted Cruz in the race, if you get a Josh Hawley in the race,
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Nikki Haley is not going to run to the right of them.
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And so I think she very wisely is saying, no, I'm going to run more of a centrist campaign.
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And the proof of this is that her campaign message is, we're going to move beyond the past.
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Which is the sort of thing that a lot of politicians say,
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but if you're running a centrist campaign, it carries even more significance.
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The super right-wing conservative campaign slogan would be return to the past.
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we're going to look to the past and take the wisdom of the past and bring it into the present.
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We're going to draw on the best of our tradition.
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The center-right to kind of more moderate, even say classical liberal campaign slogan is,
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That is going to be Nikki Haley's campaign slogan.
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I know a lot of conservatives aren't going to like that very much.
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I think that the number of Burkean conservatives wearing tweed and looking back to the glorious
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days of the Holy Roman Empire is a relatively small number of Americans.
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And so Nikki Haley is making a really mainstream play.
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The question is, can that message resonate in the primary where the conservatives have a lot more say?
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I'm not so sure, but I still don't think it's a mistake for her not to run further to the right.
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Right now, the lane she's running in is pretty wide open.
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The right-wing lane is getting very crowded with very, very big personalities.
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Speaking of politicians, speaking of the center and the right kind of moving, moving so far to
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the left now that the hard, strong right-wing position is that men are not women and women
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Arkansas State Senator Matt McKee is under fire right now for grilling a transgender witness.
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And he asked this man a question that you are no longer allowed to ask the transgender people.
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Are you telling us that you're unfamiliar with a large body of medical evidence of the harm
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that has come upon people that have gone through these processes?
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I'm familiar with a large body of evidence that shows that providing good affirming care saves lives.
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Are you saying that you're unaware of the large body of medical evidence of the harm
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that has come upon these people in these processes that have been gone through?
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You're the one that brought that into the discussion.
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I remember this was a big deal when some confused man went on a talk show.
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I think it was Laverne Cox, whatever his real name is, from Orange is the New Black.
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And the interviewer said, do you have, do you still have your, do you still have the goods?
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The crux of a lot of opposition to transgenderism, don't forget, 80% opposition in America to
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transgenderism, specifically as it applies to kids, hinges on the idea that dudes can go into
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So whether or not a person has their genitals is a pivotal question here.
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I hope that a lot of conservatives take this lesson and not only don't run away from the left
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I hope that in every one of these testimonies about the transgender issue, I hope that the
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And the more that the radical pro-trans people in the room start screaming like banshees,
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the more the normal sane people are going to be convinced that they are right about this
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I really wanted to get to the craning company, Will Thomas, Leah Thomas story today.
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They had an explosive interview about that swimmer, the big giant dude who swims on the
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girls' team and takes the trophies away from all the girls at UPenn.
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We've got to get to a more important story, I think.
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If you haven't watched the Crane & Co interview on this, though, make sure you go check out
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Because right now we turn our attention away from the seemingly perennial political issues
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of the transgender agenda, the radical cultural agenda, even the Great Reset agenda.
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We turn now to a major news story that is not getting nearly enough attention in Ohio.
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This would be the train derailment that sent vinyl chloride and a number of other very,
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very dangerous chemicals up into the atmosphere.
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It put phosgene into the air, that was poison gas from World War I, put hydrochloric acid
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It caused an evacuation, though now the authorities are saying, oh, that's okay.
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Let's get those news cameras out of Ohio and let's go back to normal.
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Well, if that's the case, how come we aren't hearing from people in the town itself?
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We will do that today with Lindsay Johnston, a 26-year-old wife and mother of two daughters
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who lives in the one-mile evacuation zone in East Palestine, Ohio.
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Lindsay, very sorry what happened to your town and thank you for coming on the show.
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So, Lindsay, before we get to the reaction, what happened as you and your neighbors have
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So, my husband and I were actually, we were out of town just a few miles up north when
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And when we were on our way back, we had a bunch of people texting us, you know, are
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So, we got home and we had been like watching things on the news and we just started packing
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I don't think it was until later that they came around, they came around with speakers
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and their cars saying, you know, you should evacuate.
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So, we've been in, we've been out for, I think, 12, 13 days now.
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Um, but I mean, as of right now, they say that it is safe for us to return home.
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Um, they, you know, February 6th, they were saying that there was, um, the wine's words
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Um, they were threatening child endangerment charges to anybody that did stay behind if they
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And then two days later, they said, it's absolutely safe to go home.
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How on earth are they going to reconcile those two statements?
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I mean, we, we've seen news reports that say, oh, there's no big deal.
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There's no health risk, not even to your animals.
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We've, we're testing the air, we're testing the water.
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And then you see the pictures in the videos of people who, who are looking at all of their
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chickens lying dead, whose, whose animals have died.
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How is, how is all that poison just cleared out of town?
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Poison that could have killed your children if you spent the night there.
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How could that possibly clear out of town in 48 hours?
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Um, we know that there are some people that have returned, um, and have gotten sick.
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Um, I know our neighbors went home for a day and they, um, I think they and their, one of
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their children broke out in a rash, um, had scratchy throats.
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I went back for just a half an hour to get some stuff from our house and I left with a
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Um, my husband's been at our house a few times to clean.
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Um, and he said that for the last three days, he's been having trouble breathing.
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Um, yeah, it's, I mean, they've found at least 3,500 dead fish in the streams and I mean,
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all the time on, you know, our East Palestine Facebook groups and things there, people are
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posting pictures of their animals and dead animals that they find with no, you know, indication
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Um, right now we are in Negley, um, which is just the next town over.
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We're on the far end of Negley, um, with my mom.
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Um, we had been, we'd been probably a half an hour out of town before that.
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Um, we were in two separate hotels, like going from different places and stuff, trying to figure
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But, um, I know this is, you know, for a lot of people in town, it's hard to,
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It's hard to afford, nobody planned for this to have to spend two weeks in a hotel room.
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And I'm sure plenty of people are also thinking, okay, you go one town over, you go two towns
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Well, we've just talked about an historic chemical explosion.
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It's not as though, you know, these places are going to be unaffected as well.
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What are the authorities doing and saying in town?
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Um, I mean, you know, there was, there was a town hall meeting last night, um, and our
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mayor has said, you know, that he's fed up as well.
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Um, but we're really not seeing a lot happening.
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Um, I, I feel like we're not holding Norfolk as accountable as we should be.
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Um, they rebuilt the railroad before the evacuation was even lifted.
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And, you know, it's mostly the help is coming from local organizations, getting together,
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donating water, donating, you know, things to people that need it, um, sending food to
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Um, but I mean, their official statements are it's safe to return home.
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But I mean, even Mike DeWine said that he would be drinking bottled water.
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Um, you know, and he said that he would return home, but I think that he would also have the
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financial ability to get, you know, private testing done instead of the testing that's
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This seems to be the biggest environmental disaster on U.S. soil in probably in my lifetime.
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I mean, you, you think about maybe 9-11 or, you know, a major terror attack, uh, accepted
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in terms of just an actual accident, environmental catastrophe, you know, clogging up the air and
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I assume Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg hasn't come by.
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Have you seen anything from the federal government?
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Well, our county is, uh, in, in the last election, our county.
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So I, uh, I kind of feel like maybe we're not that important to the federal government.
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And especially with all the language about the flyover country and the deplorables and
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the irredeemables and let small town America die.
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I'm not surprised that East Palestine has been completely overlooked by the Biden administration,
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by the establishment media, by pretty much everybody.
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But once this news story goes away, as the people who write our news are trying to do
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more and more so by the hour, you're still going to have to live there.
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This whole town's going to have to live with this.
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And we can hear that the air is safe and the water's safe.
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You're telling me that your neighbors and even your husband are experiencing this is not safe.
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They are getting sick when they go back to clean the homes.
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So it's obviously just a complete crock that's coming from the authorities and it's going
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You live in this town for five years, 10 years, 20 years.
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What, what consequences are you going to have to deal with that the railroad isn't going
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to have to deal with, that the government's not going to have to deal with, that everybody
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I guess the only thing we can do is call some attention to it and demand that the government
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I mean, we're all concerned of what, you know, what health issues we might all experience
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And I mean, our home values, who, who's going to buy, who, if we decide to move away, what
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You know, it's, people can't, if they're homeowners, they can't just up and leave.
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If you rent, it might be a little bit easier for you, but you know, we own our home.
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How are we supposed to, you know, avoid this when we don't know what's going to happen in
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the future and we don't believe what they're telling us?
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There's no reason that you should believe what they're telling you.
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In fact, your own experience is proving that what they're saying is not true.
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You will be in our prayers, as will everybody in East Palestine.
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And I hope that there is a little more political help that comes your way from the people who
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are, who are absolutely overlooking you and the rest of the people in your community right
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Lindsay Johnston, thanks so much for coming on the show.
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Now we actually have another great person to talk to.
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This one conservative guy in that Vice documentary, all the libs clutching their pearls.
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