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00:00:37.900 The problem with transgenderism is not that it is inappropriate for children under the age of nine.

00:00:44.140 The problem with transgenderism is that it is not true. The problem with transgenderism is that it

00:00:50.080 puts forward a delusional vision of human nature that denies the reality and importance of sexual

00:00:56.260 difference and complementarity. The problem with transgenderism is that its acceptance at any level

00:01:03.440 necessarily entails the complete destruction of women's bathrooms, women's sports, all of the

00:01:10.840 specific rights and spaces that women currently have for themselves. There can be no middle way in

00:01:17.280 dealing with transgenderism. It's all or nothing. If transgenderism is true, if men really can become

00:01:25.380 women, then it is true for everybody of all ages. If transgenderism is false, as it is, if men and

00:01:34.340 women really are different, as we are, then it is false for everybody, too. And if it is false, then we

00:01:41.960 should not indulge it, especially since that indulgence requires taking away the rights and customs of so many

00:01:48.540 people. If it is false, then for the good of society, and especially for the good of the poor

00:01:56.320 people who have fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life

00:02:04.000 entirely. The whole preposterous ideology at every level. Have I made myself clear? I'm Michael Knowles.

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00:03:50.740 So there I was. I was at the Conservative Political Action Conference, probably the biggest in-person

00:03:58.980 conservative event of the year. And I was giving a speech on the main stage. I said something that I've

00:04:05.120 said for many, many years. Something that everybody in the entire country agreed on until about

00:04:11.080 five minutes ago. And I said that men and women are different and we shouldn't pretend otherwise

00:04:16.360 for the purposes of public life. And then, well then the press decided to call me a genocidal maniac.

00:04:27.540 I have been called many crazy things by the libs over the years. I've been called all sorts of nasty

00:04:35.320 names. Genocidal is a first. I had not gotten that before, but that's exactly what the libs called me.

00:04:41.300 I said, how on earth are the libs going to call me genocidal? I started thinking, I said,

00:04:47.380 I'm a genocidal maniac now. What is my genocidal dictator name going to be? Am I going to be

00:04:52.680 Slobodan Mikulovic? Am I going to be Benito Michelini? Am I going to, Nauchul perhaps? I said,

00:04:58.580 where did they get this from? That I'm genocidal. And then I read the headline. And the headline said,

00:05:04.400 this is from Rolling Stone. CPAC speaker calls for transgender people to be eradicated.

00:05:13.640 Did I say that? I don't remember saying that. Did I? Hold on, let me look through my speech. Oh,

00:05:19.600 of course I never said that. Calls for transgender people to be eradicated. Why? That's a complete

00:05:26.660 lie. And then I looked, there was another article from the Daily Beast said, Michael Knowles says

00:05:33.040 transgender community must be eradicated at CPAC. I said, hold on, let me check my speech.

00:05:39.660 Maybe, I mean, I, maybe I just blacked out for a second. I looked at the, I said, oh no,

00:05:43.560 I never did that either. That was also a total lie from the Daily Beast.

00:05:46.440 Same thing. Huffington Post at CPAC, a call for trans people to be eradicated gets big cheers.

00:05:52.000 Now this one was partially true in that my speech did get very big cheers. I was very pleased that

00:05:57.240 the speech went over well in the room. But the idea that I or anybody else called for

00:06:01.340 trans people to be eradicated, obviously a total lie. I choose my words, generally speaking,

00:06:10.060 pretty carefully. I'm pretty precise in my language. In fact, I wrote a whole book about how

00:06:15.940 important it is to be precise in one's language. It's called Speechless, Controlling Words,

00:06:20.440 Controlling Minds. It is, oh, thank you. It is a number one national bestselling book.

00:06:25.780 I said, well, how did they get this so wrong? Because what did I say? Well, I just read you

00:06:29.680 verbatim what I said in my speech. I said that for the good of society and especially the good of the

00:06:37.340 poor people who've fallen prey to this confusion, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life

00:06:42.480 entirely, the whole preposterous ideology. So I thought maybe these people just don't

00:06:50.200 understand the basic meaning of words. But I don't know how they could have misinterpreted what I

00:06:56.800 said. Because if you're just a regular, this went totally viral. Everybody was talking about this

00:07:00.800 over the weekend, which it's always nice to be talked about, I guess, but not generally when you're

00:07:07.080 being accused of inciting genocide. So I said, how could people misinterpret this? And for most people

00:07:12.980 who were talking about it, they didn't watch my speech. They didn't read the text. They didn't

00:07:17.940 even read the article. They just saw the headline. And so if you're just flicking through the news and

00:07:21.640 you say, this guy calls for people to be eradicated or community to be eradicated, you're just going to

00:07:26.640 believe the headline and move on. The problem for most people is they believed fake news from the

00:07:32.000 Huffington Post, the Daily Beast, and Rolling Stone. But what about the news editors who wrote those

00:07:36.980 headlines? So could they really be this stupid? Could they really be this ignorant of the basic

00:07:42.700 workings of the English language? And ism, generally speaking, refers to a doctrine, a set of beliefs,

00:07:49.780 an idea. Sometimes it can refer to, I guess, a medical condition. But even so, if you want to

00:07:55.580 eradicate a medical condition, you're not saying you want to eradicate the patient. So I don't see how

00:07:59.260 they could get that. I was quite clear in my language. I said, this is for the good of the

00:08:05.680 people involved. I want to benefit the people who have fallen prey to this ideology. So quite clearly,

00:08:11.080 I'm saying I don't want to kill these people. I want to help them. And then even if you were

00:08:16.960 confused by what ism means, I explain it in the very sentence. Say I'm referring to a whole preposterous

00:08:24.260 ideology. So I started to think, these news editors, I don't think they were confused by

00:08:31.940 what I said. I think they were deliberately lying about what I said. I think they were acting with

00:08:38.780 actual malice to libel me. And I made that point. I told the news people, I retweeted these things.

00:08:51.000 I said, I never said that. And I demand a retraction. This is libel. And I first did

00:08:56.820 it to the Daily Beast. And I first did it to Rolling Stone. I think I later did it to the

00:09:00.780 Huffington Post. And almost immediately, Rolling Stone and the Daily Beast changed their headlines

00:09:06.140 to get rid of transgender people or transgender community and use my actual words, which is the

00:09:11.700 idea of transgenderism. So how'd that happen? I don't know for sure. I assume what happened is

00:09:17.960 that the editors at the Rolling Stone and the Daily Beast got a call from their legal departments

00:09:22.460 saying, hey, guys, you have committed actual libel here. And the threshold for libel lawsuits,

00:09:29.880 defamation lawsuits is very high in the United States. And you've still probably crossed it

00:09:33.920 because you're demonstrating actual malice here. It's just so preposterous from the content of the

00:09:40.620 speech. And so they changed their headlines quick as can be. And then what's funny is Rolling Stone

00:09:45.580 got pushed back from the left because the left was very upset that they came to, quote unquote,

00:09:50.080 right-wing pressure, by which they meant libel laws and honesty and the truth. And so then

00:09:54.740 Rolling Stone had to change the headline again to still acknowledge that I obviously didn't call

00:09:59.480 for genocide or anything like that. But they then changed their headline to insult me. So it was all

00:10:05.060 pretty clear. There are some news outlets that have not yet changed their headlines.

00:10:09.500 I would recommend that they do so. I would recommend they reconsider that because I don't

00:10:17.600 really know how I could have been any clearer in my language. And I don't think a news editor could

00:10:24.620 look someone straight in the face and say, I didn't understand what the man was saying.

00:10:27.700 Now, some people who just read the headlines, they also kind of proved my point. There was a blue

00:10:35.320 check on Twitter named Reverend Dr. Jackie Lewis, some liberal blue check. And she said,

00:10:40.680 you can't eradicate transgenderism without violence against trans siblings. People don't simply cease to

00:10:48.720 exist. Okay, they're saying you can't eradicate transgenderism without murdering all the transgender

00:10:56.580 people or whatever. But then her very next tweet, she says, I just dream about a world where we spend

00:11:02.740 the amount of energy, time and money we currently waste on bigotry to eradicate poverty, homelessness,

00:11:09.080 hunger, and medical debt. Do you see the problem with what she said? Do you see how she might have

00:11:16.040 just undermined her own point? Unless Jackie Lewis is calling for a genocide of the poor, the homeless,

00:11:24.540 the hungry, and the indebted. She just made my point, which is that we can eradicate ideas,

00:11:33.240 institutions, pathologies, ailments without eradicating human beings. If we say, I want to

00:11:41.000 eradicate capitalism from public life, plenty of liberals would say something to that effect.

00:11:45.120 Are they saying they want to slaughter all the capitalists? Maybe they are, but that's not the

00:11:49.000 meaning of the sentence. You say, oh, you want to eradicate communism. You're going to kill all the

00:11:52.520 communists? No. You say, we're going to eradicate anorexia. Anorexia must be eradicated from public

00:11:59.120 life. Are you saying you want to kill all the anorexics? No, of course not. Of course not.

00:12:02.920 And the libs accidentally have proven my point. So the question then becomes, the more honest liberals

00:12:11.000 have said, okay, well, what does it mean then to eradicate transgenderism from public life?

00:12:17.520 And it's a good question. I'm glad people are talking about that. That was the point of my speech.

00:12:21.780 What would it mean to eradicate the preposterous ideology of transgenderism from public life at

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00:13:43.660 eradicating transgenderism from public life would mean behaving as American society did before, say,

00:13:54.340 2015. Before, around 2015, we did not have any acceptance of transgenderism in public life.

00:14:05.600 And it started to be introduced into public life around 2015 when Barack Obama instituted

00:14:13.280 transgender military policies and some liberals in North Carolina decided to invite men into the

00:14:18.140 women's bathroom and pass all sorts of weird ordinances about bathrooms. Then later on,

00:14:23.620 we got the Bostock decision. The Bostock decision rewrote civil rights law to say that there was a

00:14:28.900 protection for gender identity in there. Obviously, there is not one, but that came years later.

00:14:33.180 So we're only talking about the last seven, eight years or so. We've had transgenderism in public

00:14:39.820 life. And my point is, you can't deal with transgenderism only by saying we're not going

00:14:49.220 to trans the kids. I think there are a lot of conservatives who say, okay, look, transgender

00:14:53.640 adults, if a man wants to identify as a woman, he's an adult, that's fine. Just don't do it to the kids.

00:14:59.080 That's missing the point. I actually think this is what motivated these news outlets to lie about

00:15:04.480 what I said. They obviously couldn't deal with the argument I was making. If they could, they would

00:15:09.840 have done that. But they couldn't do that. So they had to lie. They had to rewrite what I said until I

00:15:16.360 scared them at the prospect of libel laws. And then they had to change their headlines, even though

00:15:19.680 there's still libelous content in the articles. Why? Because the left believed that it had already won

00:15:27.060 the transgender issue, just like it wins every other social issue. Just about. What happens, and I've

00:15:34.480 talked about this on the show for weeks now, and I actually mentioned it in my CPAC speech. What happens

00:15:39.080 is the libs introduce some crazy idea. And then the conservatives briefly stand firm. They briefly

00:15:46.460 oppose it. Then the liberals totally stand firm. And then the conservatives cave. And then the conservatives

00:15:53.880 will say, okay, I'm fine with that idea. But this new idea that the liberals are proposing, that's crazy.

00:16:00.740 And that's just what happens. So in the 1970s, you had the feminists start burning their bras and

00:16:06.640 saying that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. And what did the conservatives say? They

00:16:10.660 said, that's totally crazy. Feminism, oh my goodness, that's crazy. And then what happened? The liberals

00:16:16.380 stood firm. And pretty quickly, the conservatives said, okay, feminism's fine. But this sexual revolution,

00:16:21.960 all that village people stuff over there, that's crazy. And then what happened? Very quickly, the

00:16:28.660 conservatives said, okay, well, the sexual revolution and the village people stuff and everything, that's

00:16:32.520 totally fine. But those liberals, you're never going to redefine marriage. That would be crazy. And then what

00:16:38.280 happened? Five seconds later, the liberals redefine marriage and the conservatives totally roll over. And then

00:16:43.220 the conservatives say, okay, well, this new definition of marriage, that's fine. But transgenderism,

00:16:48.180 that's crazy. And then what happens? Five seconds later, the conservatives cave. And now we're on

00:16:53.340 this new stage where they say, okay, transgenderism is fine. But transing the kids, that's crazy. Or

00:16:57.560 actually, in some cases, you have some conservatives saying, well, transing the kids in certain

00:17:01.800 circumstances is fine, but just not the five-year-olds. Wait till eight. Transing the eight

00:17:08.840 years and younger, that's okay. Or rather, that's not okay. But transing the nine-year-olds and up,

00:17:14.620 that's okay. And so it just, the culture just moves ever, ever more to the left. And the reason

00:17:18.780 that the libs, I think, had to libel me and lie about what I said is because I said, no, I'm not

00:17:25.600 rolling over on transgenderism. And you can't because it's not five-year-olds who are going into

00:17:32.400 women's bathrooms and taking women's private spaces. If a five-year-old is going into a woman's

00:17:36.860 bathroom, it's because his mother is bringing him in there, okay? The issue with women being able to

00:17:42.180 have their own bathrooms or have their own sports teams or have their own locker rooms or have their

00:17:45.540 own public spaces is not that little kids are identifying as the opposite sex. It's that 50-year-olds

00:17:52.140 are identifying as the opposite sex. So if you want to deal with the transgender issue, it's kind of

00:17:57.700 all or nothing. Furthermore, the argument that the liberals make for transing the little kids

00:18:02.460 is they say transgenderism is real. A man can be a woman secretly, or a woman can be a man born into

00:18:08.180 the wrong body. You're born that way. And so if you're born that way, if it's real, if that's a true

00:18:12.820 anthropology, then it's got to be real for everybody. If transgenderism is real, then we certainly should

00:18:17.140 trans the kids because the kids are already trans. And so to deny their true nature would be cruel.

00:18:24.620 The issue is transgenderism is not real for anybody. A man can't really become a woman, and a woman can't

00:18:29.320 really become a man. And all the arguments they make to this effect are preposterous. Some are

00:18:34.400 metaphysical arguments. They'll say, well, my body is that of a man, but my soul or my spirit

00:18:38.360 is that of a woman. Sometimes it's materialist. They'll say, well, much of my body is the body of

00:18:42.800 a man, but my brain is that of a woman. That's a really funny argument because the feminists told

00:18:47.900 us, remember, for the purposes of feminism, men and women have identical brains. And if you suggest

00:18:53.500 that the brains of men and the brains of women are different, you're a terrible sexist and a

00:18:56.880 misogynist. But for the purposes of transgenderism, men and women have brains that are so different

00:19:02.680 that you can see it very quickly on a scan. And men who have women's brains, whatever that means,

00:19:09.180 is, I assume it means something kind of offensive to women, but whatever that means,

00:19:13.980 you need to mutilate your body and be accepted as a woman in society.

00:19:20.340 So what does it mean? What does it mean to eradicate transgenderism from public life? Well,

00:19:24.560 I chose my words carefully. We're talking about public life. I'm not suggesting that we're going to go

00:19:28.660 in and force people to believe a certain way. The law is a teacher. Public life is a teacher.

00:19:35.560 We're mimetic beings. So, you know, ultimately the norms that prevail in society are going to shape

00:19:41.060 the way that we view ourselves and view the world. We're just talking about public life here.

00:19:46.420 If you want to go home and imagine yourself to be the opposite sex, nobody's going to stop you from

00:19:50.440 doing that. But in public life, when it comes to your birth certificate, when it comes to bathrooms,

00:19:54.500 when it comes to the way that you, when it comes to your passport, when it comes to the way that you

00:20:00.780 present yourself in sex-selective spaces, you don't get to pretend to be the opposite sex.

00:20:10.480 Why? Why do we have to do that? Well, because it's the truth. And a society that ignores the

00:20:16.200 distinction between truth and falsehood is not going to flourish. Also because people who are

00:20:22.400 transgender, who are identified as transgender, generally speaking, don't have a very happy go

00:20:27.920 of things. It's a very difficult delusion to labor under. And you see this reflected in high rates

00:20:32.860 of anxiety and stress and suicide and all the rest of it. And it is simply a fact that as the

00:20:39.360 preposterous notion of transgenderism has been normalized in society, more and more people have

00:20:44.000 started to identify as transgender. It is whatever you want to say the root cause of transgenderism is,

00:20:49.720 or gender dysphoria, or gender identity disorder, or whatever the new term is.

00:20:54.700 It clearly develops as a social contagion. The more people identify with it, the more people

00:21:01.520 will identify with it. This is how you get to a place now where, according to one survey,

00:21:05.300 more than one in five Zoomers identifies as LGBT. Either Alex Jones is right, and there's something

00:21:11.180 in the water turning the freaking frogs gay, or this is a social contagion. Obviously it is.

00:21:16.380 And obviously it is, because man is mimetic. The way that we learn, the way we develop personality,

00:21:22.560 the way that we develop beliefs and behaviors, is by imitating others. It's even the way we develop

00:21:27.000 our desires. You want the Rolex watch, not because you know something about horology,

00:21:34.100 not because you know about the finer points of this gold, or this movement, or this steel.

00:21:39.540 You want the Rolex watch because some other guy wants the Rolex watch, and it has created a sense

00:21:45.700 of status and prestige. That's called mimesis. The little baby learns to smile because he looks up at

00:21:50.540 his mother while he's breastfeeding, and the mother looks down, and eventually he mimics that behavior.

00:21:55.160 This is why little kids are sponges, and you've got to watch what you say around little kids,

00:21:58.060 because they suck up all sorts of behaviors and speech. And that's true for everybody.

00:22:03.500 Everybody. That's how society operates. So I was really pleased. No conservatives were fooled by

00:22:09.960 this. Immediately you saw, there are too many to name, but all the big conservative names come out

00:22:15.940 and defend me, including conservatives who don't even like me that much. I want to give a shout out

00:22:20.020 to Brad Palumbo, who is a very pro-LGBT libertarian type, who identifies as being on the right. And he

00:22:27.900 criticizes me all the time. He says, I don't like Michael Knowles. I think this guy's extreme. I'm

00:22:32.720 socially liberal and all this stuff. But he said, but you've got to be a liar to pretend that when

00:22:38.980 he's criticizing an idea and calling for the eradication of that idea, he's calling for genocide.

00:22:44.120 And there were many more prominent conservatives then who came out and pointed out that what these

00:22:49.860 news agencies did is libelous and, I think, actionable. Senator Mike Lee, who is a Supreme Court

00:22:59.640 litigator and obviously a United States senator and frequently discussed as a candidate for the

00:23:04.140 Supreme Court, he pointed out, he said, this is indeed libelous. It's an example of how a bad Supreme

00:23:08.360 Court ruling from 1964, New York Times versus Sullivan, has created a monster, giving the news

00:23:12.840 media a license to lie about any public figure who can't prove that the reporter acted with actual

00:23:16.820 malice, which is nearly impossible. Vidhika Ramaswamy, another friend of mine who is running for

00:23:23.020 president right now, graduate of Yale Law School, very, very sharp legal mind, pointed out, he said,

00:23:27.560 I think actually it seems clear that they were acting with actual malice. And so we'll see.

00:23:33.020 I'm glad to see that the Daily Beast and the Rolling Stone corrected their defamatory,

00:23:37.140 dishonest, libelous headlines. Look forward to other outlets doing the same. Okay,

00:23:42.260 enough about me, but more about the dishonest press. I saw this headline. Where is it? From ABC News.

00:23:50.340 It says, psychosomatic effects may be contributing to the symptoms of headaches, fatigue, or respiratory

00:23:59.660 issues being reported by some residents of East Palestine, Ohio, following a hazardous chemical

00:24:04.920 spill last month, experts say. It's psychosomatic. So this is the latest about East Palestine, which was

00:24:14.640 blown up with a bunch of toxic chemicals that poison the air, very possibly poison the water,

00:24:19.940 and nobody wanted to talk about it. And there was, if not a media blackout, at least a media brownout.

00:24:25.180 They just weren't focusing on it very much until President Trump showed up. President Trump brought

00:24:31.120 a lot of attention to East Palestine. Senator J.D. Vance, a number of other people have come,

00:24:34.920 finally forced Pete Buttigieg and the federal government to come down and address the situation.

00:24:41.680 So why did, why did they have to do that? Because the residents of East Palestine were saying,

00:24:46.360 I'm getting rashes. I'm developing a cough. I've got all these problems. So the new line from the

00:24:51.760 fake news media is, oh yeah, these effects, it's all in your head. It's all psychosomatic.

00:25:00.720 Including the headaches and the fatigue and the respiratory issues. Oh, you're having trouble

00:25:03.740 breathing. No, no, no. That's just in your head. I think it's in your lungs. We are now told that,

00:25:10.160 this is amazing. We're now told that if you, if you believe that you're the opposite sex,

00:25:18.800 that you're suffering from a very real medical condition. But if you've got rashes and lung

00:25:24.700 damage and headaches from the toxic chemical explosion in your town, oh, that's just all in

00:25:29.380 your head. Never mind. Move along. That isn't real. That's where we are, according to the news

00:25:34.400 media. Is it any wonder that people don't believe in this stuff anymore? People on the right don't

00:25:40.060 believe in it. People on the left do still believe in it. And which is, which is why,

00:25:45.220 which is why they're allowed to lie about people. And if we don't hold them accountable,

00:25:49.080 they're going to keep lying. This is also why Trump does very well. Trump does very, very well

00:25:54.740 because of the way the political establishment treats the people who are exactly like the residents

00:26:00.840 of East Palestine, Ohio. The forgotten people, the people in flyover country, the people who are

00:26:06.300 deplorable and irredeemable, bitter, clinging, rube, toothless, jerk, hillbilly, hick, idiots.

00:26:12.660 That's what the people on the coast say about pretty much everybody from, I don't know, 200 miles

00:26:19.180 into the West Coast, 200 miles into the East Coast. Everybody in the middle, terrible, useless deplorables.

00:26:24.600 And Trump does very well with them. His numbers are reflecting that. Speaking of CPAC,

00:26:29.400 Trump just won the CPAC straw poll, and he won it by a country mile. 62% of the respondents at the

00:26:37.500 straw poll voted for Trump. Ron DeSantis did not show up to CPAC. He still came in second,

00:26:43.740 though. He got 20%. Third place went to a Michigan billionaire named Perry Johnson.

00:26:47.600 So does that matter? Well, the CPAC straw poll, it's got actually a pretty decent record in

00:26:55.380 predicting the nominee. Not perfect. It's a little bit of a mixed bag. Some straw polls,

00:27:00.580 though, don't matter at all. The CPAC one does a little bit. In 2020, obviously, they picked Trump.

00:27:06.160 In 2016, the CPAC straw poll picked Cruz. And Cruz was the number two guy. He almost got the nomination,

00:27:11.600 but it went to Trump. In 2012, the CPAC straw poll picked Romney. 2008 also picked Romney,

00:27:16.640 so they got that one wrong. In 2000, they picked Bush. They got that one right. Dole in 96,

00:27:21.060 they got that one right. Buchanan in 92, they got that one wrong. Reagan in 1980,

00:27:24.860 they got that one obviously right. So it's a mixed bag, but Trump winning it, I think,

00:27:30.740 is a pretty decent sign, especially for the kinds of candidates. You know, CPAC was founded

00:27:34.960 basically for Ronald Reagan. And Reagan showed up. He tried to show up every single year of his

00:27:41.200 presidency. I think once he was not able to make it for an emergency. But he said he had to show up to

00:27:45.160 CPAC because he wanted to dance with the gal that brung him. And he felt that CPAC was representing

00:27:50.480 that conservative grassroots movement. Obviously, it's changed a lot over the years. But I think

00:27:57.320 the conclusion has to be, no matter how well DeSantis is doing, he's governing very well. He's

00:28:01.380 campaigning very well, even though he hasn't officially declared he's running yet. But I think

00:28:05.420 in this race, Trump remains the favorite. He remains the guy to beat.

00:28:09.880 Not just CPAC showing this. There was a Yahoo, YouGov poll that was released. It was last week

00:28:16.540 showing that 47% of Republicans would vote for Trump in a head-to-head primary against DeSantis.

00:28:23.040 That means that DeSantis is eight points behind Trump right now at 39%, 13 undecided. So Trump could,

00:28:29.420 or DeSantis rather, could still take it. But even according to that poll, Trump wins.

00:28:35.040 And it's important that that's a head-to-head poll. Because again, early polls don't matter

00:28:39.700 that much. And it really depends on the state and the caucus or the primary. But nevertheless,

00:28:45.600 the conventional wisdom had been, if Trump runs, he can clear the field, then he gets the nomination.

00:28:50.160 If Trump ran, he did not clear the field. If it's Trump versus DeSantis, DeSantis wins.

00:28:56.240 But if he really doesn't clear the field and a lot of other candidates get in, as we're seeing now,

00:29:00.200 Nikki Haley's gotten in, Vivek Ramaswamy's getting in. There are a lot of other people who are

00:29:03.680 predicted to get in. And then in a split field, Trump is going to be able to hold his plurality.

00:29:09.060 Let's say he doesn't get 50% plus, but he holds that plurality just like he did in 2016. He wins

00:29:13.320 the nomination. So the fact that right now, Trump is head-to-head beating DeSantis,

00:29:18.140 very good sign for Trump. And also what it means is that right now, people are living in echo chambers.

00:29:25.060 So the people who everyone's talking to in the primary campaigns tend to be the people of like

00:29:33.400 mind, like social status, like personal interest. And so you're seeing, especially among the pundits,

00:29:40.280 a gravitation toward Ron DeSantis and a lot of other people too. Plenty of people really,

00:29:44.820 really like Ron DeSantis. But I'm not sure that's totally reflective of every part of the GOP base.

00:29:50.360 Certainly this early, when Ron DeSantis doesn't have anywhere near the name recognition that Trump does,

00:29:54.440 because the primary has not really taken off yet. It's all about what do people want. And speaking

00:30:00.900 of what people want, do you know what they want? They want chocolate that has not been transed.

00:30:07.260 Forget about transing the kids. Forget about transing the adults. People want regular old

00:30:12.620 chocolate. They want she, her chocolate. That's just regular chocolate. And they want he, him chocolate

00:30:19.300 that contains nuts. And that's what they got from Jeremy's chocolates. You may have seen this

00:30:23.720 commercial. I've had a very busy few weeks. I'm traveling a lot. And so I came into the office,

00:30:30.180 did my show. I went off site to record a long interview for a project we're working on.

00:30:35.600 I came back. I had to record more that night. As I'm recording, I hear a pause. They say,

00:30:42.180 stop, Michael. You got to walk out of the set. Jeremy needs you. So I'm in the middle of doing my,

00:30:47.760 hey, I said, Jeremy needs you. I said, okay, fine. I walk out and Jeremy, Jeremy says, hey,

00:30:53.900 I need you to stand here next to the McLaren. I said, why is that? He goes, oh, we started a

00:30:57.240 chocolate company. It's, it's called Jeremy's chocolates. You go to I hate Hershey's.com

00:31:01.780 because Hershey's is transing the chocolates and we want to give people an alternative. I said,

00:31:05.380 okay, yeah, that makes sense. So we do, we shoot the commercial. It comes out immediately. This is

00:31:08.940 like the same day that Hershey's pushed its weird trans campaign where to celebrate women's history

00:31:15.020 month or whatever women's month it is. They got a dude dressed up as a woman to sell the chocolate.

00:31:19.960 So Jeremy puts it up immediately. I hate Hershey's.com goes up immediately,

00:31:23.840 sources the chocolate immediately. And you think, okay, it's a funny joke,

00:31:26.960 but are they actually going to sell any chocolate? Jeremy has sold 300,000 non-woke chocolate bars.

00:31:34.660 The man has become actually Willy Wonka. He is now, he's always been Willy Wonka-esque. He is now

00:31:43.100 literally Willy Wonka. 300,000 chocolate bars in less than two days. I hate Hershey's.com. Go order

00:31:51.280 yours. Check out the commercial. International Women's Day is upon us again. And I love an

00:31:57.320 international woman, but our friends over at Hershey's, they don't even know what a woman is.

00:32:01.280 They've hired a biological male to be the spokesperson for their Women's Day campaign.

00:32:05.800 And they're calling that campaign, and I swear I'm not making this up, Her-She.

00:32:12.380 Her-She. It's humiliating. And it's the reason that I'm launching

00:32:16.380 Jeremy's Chocolate. We have two kinds. She-Her and He-Him. One of them's got nuts. If you need me to tell

00:32:27.300 you which one it is, keep giving your money to Hershey's. But if you're tired of giving your money

00:32:31.940 to woke corporations that hate you, and you're looking for a delicious chocolate bar from a company

00:32:36.020 that actually wants your business, head over to IHateHershey's.com and order Jeremy's Chocolate

00:32:41.200 today. If you ask me, I think people are hungry for an alternative, and I think you've all proved that.

00:32:48.960 So head on over to IHateHershey's.com and get yourself some delicious non-woke chocolate and

00:32:55.840 just keep us all laughing. Because these libs, they overplay their hands, and they think that

00:33:03.440 they've got total power, and they think we're all going to cave. And this goes right up to what we

00:33:07.940 were talking about at the top of the show. They are so certain that we're going to cave. They are so

00:33:13.320 certain that we're going to cave that whenever anyone stands up against their insane agenda,

00:33:18.860 they will libel that person. They'll smear that person. They really think, oh, we can cancel

00:33:24.320 anybody we want. We can silence anybody we want. We're going to put out a crappy product, and you're

00:33:30.120 going to buy it because you have no alternatives. You sheep, you little sheep, you'll do what I say.

00:33:34.560 Where'd Dr. Fauci come from? I don't know. That's their voice. That's what they believe.

00:33:37.740 And what we say is, no. No. Whatever products you poison, we're going to offer an alternative.

00:33:45.120 Whatever crazy ideas you say are inevitable, we're going to stand firm. And you're going

00:33:49.020 to have to deal with it, libs. People want a choice. They don't want an echo.

00:33:54.680 That was a great line from Phyllis Schlafly. It is a line that I quoted in my CPAC speech.

00:33:58.820 And it is an important fact of conservatism. If we're just going to be fighting for the

00:34:09.180 liberal policies of 10 years ago, then there's no point in having conservatives. If we're just

00:34:13.440 going to be, to use Michael Malice's term, progressives driving the speed limit, then

00:34:17.500 there's no point to having conservatives. We need to say no, stand firm, and actually go on the

00:34:24.320 offense. Go back in the other direction. Sometimes the best defense is a strong offense.

00:34:29.640 The squishes will not do. On that point, by the way, I think YouTube may have taken down

00:34:34.640 my CPAC speech. If you want to read the full text verbatim, you've got to go to dailywire.com.

00:34:39.440 I have it up there. You can read what the media won't allow you to see, or what they'll just

00:34:44.440 lie about in their print. People don't want the squishes. And so there was a guy who was

00:34:49.560 a big squish governor in Maryland, and he was considering running for president. Larry Hogan,

00:34:55.160 not looking good. It was a tough decision, but I've decided that I will not be a candidate for

00:35:01.740 the Republican nomination for president. Wow, huge news. Here, I'm going to make news

00:35:06.200 that's just as big. I, too, will not be a candidate in 2024 for the Republican nomination

00:35:11.920 for president. I am constitutionally ineligible because I'm too young, and yet I think I had a

00:35:17.460 much better chance of winning that nomination and the presidency than Larry Hogan ever did.

00:35:21.740 What's the lane for Larry Hogan? Hey, I'll be a liberal from 2019. Hey, I'll be, I'm a liberal,

00:35:32.200 but not the craziest, fringiest liberal that you ever saw. Now, if I'm going to vote for a Democrat,

00:35:37.080 I want to vote for a real Democrat. I want a clear alternative. If I'm going to vote for a liberal,

00:35:41.580 I want him to be a coherent liberal. And if I want a conservative, I want a conservative.

00:35:46.200 People want clarity. And I think a lot of the times the squishes believe that what we need to do is

00:35:52.180 we just need to be a little conciliatory. Meet you halfway. Okay, all right, you guys want to

00:35:56.720 trans the three-year-olds. I don't think, I think we should only trans the 18-year-olds. Okay, let's

00:36:00.660 meet at 12. No, if you keep, if you keep meeting halfway and halfway and halfway as they push to the

00:36:05.820 left, then you're just inevitably going to follow them all the way down the road to perdition.

00:36:09.440 Now, speaking of people who might run for president, and speaking of ambiguously partisan

00:36:15.580 people, Senator Joe Manchin, Democrat from West Virginia, is asked if he will endorse Joe Biden in

00:36:23.380 2024. Here is his answer. Are you going to endorse Joe Biden if he runs for re-election?

00:36:29.700 Oh, there's plenty of time for the election. This is the problem with America right now. We start an

00:36:33.220 election every time there's a cycle coming up. Yeah, he's the leader of your party.

00:36:36.120 I, I, no, the bottom line is let's see who's involved. Let's wait until we see who all the

00:36:41.760 players are. Let's just wait until it all comes out. My main purpose right now is to work for my

00:36:46.800 country and my, and my state. That's my responsibility. I'm not going to make my announcement for

00:36:52.200 anything until the end of the year. You've said you're not running for president. Is that an open

00:36:56.880 question though? I didn't say that. I didn't say anything about that. The bottom line is I will make

00:37:02.680 my political decision in December, whatever it may be. To run for president? I'm not taking anything

00:37:07.300 off the table and I'm not putting, and I'm not putting anything on the table. I said, I'll make

00:37:11.740 a decision in January, at this, at the end of this year. So Joe Manchin is recognizing here,

00:37:18.320 one, maybe he wants to run for president, so he's trying to keep his options open, but he's in a tough

00:37:23.800 spot. Is he going to run in the Democratic Party? He'd never win the nomination. Is he going to run

00:37:28.680 in the Republican Party? He'd have a better shot at winning the nomination, but no. Is he going to

00:37:33.160 run as an independent? That's probably going nowhere. Could he try to make a play to be a

00:37:36.540 vice president? Or I don't think that's going to happen. Remember, John McCain wanted to pick

00:37:41.220 Joe Lieberman, the Democrat, to be his running mate. Republicans would have completely thrown

00:37:45.420 him out for that. It's absurd to have your party pick a member of the opposite party to be the running

00:37:49.220 mate. And so I don't see that ever happening. Or is Joe Manchin trying to keep his powder dry,

00:37:55.260 get ready to cross the aisle, endorse whoever the eventual Republican nominee is, whether that's

00:38:00.460 Trump, whether that's Ron DeSantis, whether that's somebody else, and then get a position like,

00:38:04.800 I don't know, Secretary of State or some cabinet position. That, to me, seems more likely. He's

00:38:09.760 trying to keep his powder dry to aim at something that would be pretty significant in a Republican

00:38:15.280 administration, which is probably where he would get it. He also realizes Joe Biden is just not a

00:38:21.060 good bet right now. And the people don't want that. The voters don't want that. Now, speaking of

00:38:26.260 voters, very troubling story from Washington, D.C. Non-citizens are now apparently allowed to vote

00:38:34.740 in local Washington, D.C. elections. How is this possible? Well, because D.C. has the license at the

00:38:44.780 moment to govern itself in many ways. But ultimately, D.C. does not have any right to govern itself.

00:38:50.260 Ultimately, the Congress governs Washington, D.C. Because Washington, D.C. is not a state.

00:38:55.380 It's not a normal municipality in America. It's the federal district. And the federal district is run

00:39:00.620 by Congress. So why on earth would Congress allow the local government there to allow these

00:39:07.060 non-residents to vote in elections? Because the Democrats still run the Senate. So the House

00:39:13.020 Republicans could clamp down on the D.C. local government and say, no, you're not going to allow

00:39:18.720 these foreigners to vote in elections. But the Senate's going to strike that down. I say, who

00:39:23.620 cares? The House Republicans must, I am begging you, I'm on my knees. I'm not on my knees. I'm in

00:39:29.260 my chair at my desk. But I'm rhetorically on my knees. Bring this up for a vote. Vote as the House

00:39:36.160 of Representatives to overrule the D.C. local government to say that foreigners cannot vote.

00:39:41.940 Because what that will do is force the Senate Democrats to shoot down the House legislation.

00:39:48.480 It will force the Senate Democrats to go on the record supporting voting by foreigners in American

00:39:56.040 elections in the American capital. And what that does, it won't necessarily affect a whole lot in

00:40:02.540 terms of electoral politics. Because Washington, D.C. does not have a voting representative to the

00:40:07.960 Congress. It doesn't have a ton of its own political power. But it will destroy the Democrats'

00:40:16.000 narrative that they are not rigging elections. It will destroy the Democrats' narrative that they

00:40:20.540 support election integrity. It will force the Democrats to go on the record saying, we explicitly

00:40:25.180 support non-citizens voting in elections. It will look absolutely terrible and will very much

00:40:30.440 strengthen the Republicans' correct argument that the Democrats regularly rig elections and cheat

00:40:36.220 to keep their political power. Really, really important. House Republicans, get it done.

00:40:41.440 Speaking of foreigners, really disturbing story out of the United Kingdom has to do with all sorts of

00:40:48.040 questions that we've been talking about today. This is from the BBC. Four Wakefield pupils

00:40:55.220 have been suspended after a Quran was damaged at the school. What happened? Well, the head teacher at the

00:41:05.000 school, Mr. Griffiths, said, we would like to reassure all our community that the holy book,

00:41:10.620 this teacher is referring to the Quran as a holy book, remains fully intact and that our special

00:41:15.060 inquiries indicate there was no malicious intent by those involved. However, we have made it very clear

00:41:21.360 that their actions did not, this is the actions of the students, did not treat the Quran with the

00:41:26.480 respect it should have. So those involved have been suspended and we will be working with them to

00:41:32.940 ensure they understand why their actions were unacceptable. This morning, we met with local

00:41:37.140 Muslim community leaders, local counselors, and police to share all the information we currently

00:41:40.760 know, the action taken, and the immediate steps we've taken to reinforce the values and behavior we

00:41:45.400 expect from every member of the school community to ensure that all religions are respected.

00:41:49.720 I have read the Quran. I have more respect for the Quran than I have, at least for a number of books

00:42:01.220 that are taught in schools today, like genderqueer and all the gay porn and all that kind of stuff.

00:42:07.100 But this is absurd. This is, listen to what they're saying. They're saying that students who

00:42:12.500 accidentally disrespected the Quran will be suspended for doing so. Would that have happened

00:42:21.320 had the students disrespected the Bible accidentally or intentionally? No. That's the new norm. That's the

00:42:29.280 new norm in British public life. The Quran is considered a holy book, holier than the Bible,

00:42:36.040 certainly. And it has to be treated with that kind of reverence and respect. That's public life.

00:42:44.780 There's always going to be a religious component to politics. All politics, all human conflict,

00:42:49.680 ultimately is theological. There are going to be premises that undergird our entire political system,

00:42:55.880 the background principles. And this is where the transgender stuff comes in. This is what it means

00:43:00.900 to eradicate transgenderism from public life. Right now, if you question the false anthropology,

00:43:08.900 which states that a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man, you can be kicked off of

00:43:15.000 YouTube or any of the big tech platforms. You can be fired from your job. You can be kicked out of

00:43:20.900 school. You can be ostracized from your community. If you question such a thing while you are committing

00:43:26.300 another crime, you can have your charges increased because it can be called a hate crime. A hate crime

00:43:31.980 if you say something that's true. That's a big problem. And so to eradicate this idea from public

00:43:40.620 life, and we eradicate all sorts of ideas. We suppress all sorts of ideas in this country. We ban the Bible

00:43:46.960 from public schools. We ban prayer from schools. We insist upon this absurd secularism that reads into the

00:43:54.300 Establishment Clause of the Constitution, a firm separation of church and state that never existed

00:43:59.080 until very recent decades. We rewrite civil rights law to pretend that there is a kind of protection

00:44:04.440 for gender identity, which is delusional. And that creates a system in which you cannot disagree

00:44:13.260 publicly with transgenderism. The consequences will be effective. Punishment all the way to ostracism or

00:44:21.060 worse. And we're going to, we have to live under some kind of anthropology, okay? We've got to live

00:44:28.140 under some kind of epistemology. We've got to live under some kind of applied morality. All of those

00:44:33.240 things are going to inform the politics that we necessarily will live under. And there's no middle

00:44:37.720 ground between truth and falsehood and between reality and delusion. We've got to pick one, and that's

00:44:42.940 going to inform all these other aspects of public life. Which is it? Are we going to live under

00:44:47.840 the anthropology which states that men and women are different and actually they're complementary

00:44:54.140 of one another? Or are we going to live under the anthropology which states that men and women

00:44:59.020 are exactly the same in certain ways, and men can become women, and it's all fluid, and women don't

00:45:06.240 have the right to any public spaces? You've got to pick one. I, for one, believe that we ought to live

00:45:11.960 under the true one, the true anthropology, and the way that we lived in this country until about five

00:45:18.580 minutes ago. Which is why, let me state it one more time for those in the back, maybe they got a

00:45:24.520 little cotton in their ears, they didn't hear what I said. For the good of society, and especially for

00:45:29.940 the good of the poor people who are laboring and suffering under this delusion, transgenderism must

00:45:36.820 be eradicated from public life, the whole preposterous ideology at every level. Have I enunciated

00:45:46.440 properly, articulated myself, used proper diction? I think I have. The member block begins now. Head on

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