The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 120 - Little Rocket Man： Burning Out His Fuse ft. Steven Mosher

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00:00:37.660 I don't think it's going to be a long, long time till Touchdown brings him round again to find.

00:00:43.120 He's not the man we think he is at home.

00:00:45.500 Oh, no, no, no.

00:00:46.880 Little Rocket Man is burning out his fuse out there alone.

00:00:50.740 Sanctions, missile defense, and a CIA director as the nation's new top diplomat.

00:00:55.600 We will discuss President Trump's eagerly awaited meeting with Kim Jong-un, Rex Tillerson's dismissal,

00:01:01.640 and how China fits into all of this with Stephen Mosher, author of the upcoming book,

00:01:05.360 Bully of Asia, Why China's Dream is the Threat to the New World Order. 1.00

00:01:08.800 Then, some thoughts on Islam and Hillary Clinton, which poses the greater threat to Western civilization. 0.55

00:01:14.340 We will have to debate.

00:01:15.440 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:16.200 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:17.180 President Trump is promising to meet with Kim Jong-un.

00:01:27.440 We now cut to Pyongyang for reaction.

00:01:29.260 I'm so lonely, so lonely, so lonely, so lonely, and sadly alone.

00:01:41.100 There's no one, just me only, sitting on my little throne.

00:01:49.080 I work weary hard and make up great friends, but nobody listens, no one understands.

00:01:56.500 Seems like no one takes me seriously, and so I'm Ronery.

00:02:08.500 I'm a little Ronery.

00:02:11.340 Poor little me.

00:02:13.840 Sorry, I was just very, I was really sad to watch that poor little dictator just crying about how Ronery he is.

00:02:25.520 He is lonely.

00:02:26.680 He's more isolated than ever.

00:02:29.140 Obviously, sure, Kim Jong-un went to the Olympics.

00:02:31.700 That was cute.

00:02:32.440 That was trying to display that dragon lady on the world stage. 1.00

00:02:36.160 But as Victor Davis Hanson points out in American Greatness, Japan, South Korea, and the United States are expanding missile defense systems that are poised to end North Korea's first strike capability, if not China's as well.

00:02:49.040 There is talk that Japan is developing nuclear weapons, which again would be pointed directly at North Korea as well as at China.

00:02:56.520 Probably not too great for them.

00:02:58.220 Trump has pushed tough sanctions on North Korea, which we have evidence are working to further destroy their economy. 0.93

00:03:04.080 Meanwhile, I don't know if you've noticed your 401k or anything, but our economy is doing quite well.

00:03:08.920 And China is preparing for new waves of refugees to pour across the border.

00:03:12.500 They're already preparing.

00:03:13.780 Plus, we're smacking China on trade over their subsidizing the steel and aluminum industries in violation of the WTO, in violation of the World Trade Organization.

00:03:23.920 We're also denying visas to lots of Chinese students and to property holders.

00:03:28.260 One other thing that might be making Kim Jong-un nervous is that the new top diplomat is a CIA guy.

00:03:34.240 I don't know if Kim Jong-un noticed that.

00:03:36.480 And he wakes up, he says, oh, well, they're just planning a meeting with me.

00:03:39.800 The president's finally going to meet with me.

00:03:41.420 So they fired their top diplomat and installed a CIA guy.

00:03:45.000 That cannot be good if you are sitting in Pyongyang.

00:03:48.140 What has the CIA ever tried to do to us?

00:03:50.100 I don't know.

00:03:51.120 On that point, President Trump has fired Rex Tillerson.

00:03:54.320 So he tweeted this morning, he said, Mike Pompeo, director of the CIA, will become our new secretary of state.

00:04:01.060 He will do a fantastic job.

00:04:03.180 Thank you to Rex Tillerson for his service.

00:04:05.480 Gina Haspel will become the new director of the CIA, the first woman so chosen.

00:04:10.700 Congratulations to all.

00:04:12.200 Now, lefties are angry because Pompeo is a pretty hardline conservative and Gina Haspel is the new CIA director.

00:04:22.160 And it's always good when the Washington Post is angry.

00:04:24.700 That's how you know that Trump has done a good thing.

00:04:27.040 But Pompeo is good.

00:04:28.420 He's a really tough conservative.

00:04:29.660 He was a bulldog on Benghazi and on Hillary Clinton's role in Benghazi.

00:04:34.080 And Gina Haspel is also usually lauded by people on both sides of the aisle.

00:04:40.940 It's only when Donald Trump says something nice about her that the left has to pretend she's awful. 0.93

00:04:44.960 In 2002, the New York Times accused Haspel of ordering the destruction of Abu Ghraib torture tapes.

00:04:50.760 Although, actually, it turns out it wasn't Haspel who did that.

00:04:53.780 It was Haspel's boss, Jose Rodriguez, who gave the order.

00:04:56.960 Former Obama administration officials actually lauded Haspel's promotion to the number two job in 2017.

00:05:04.080 When Donald Trump first put her in there.

00:05:06.660 So now they're going to say she's awful and she tortures people. 0.99

00:05:09.340 I don't know why that's a terrible thing, but to torture terrorists. 0.95

00:05:12.140 But they're going to say that's awful and she's terrible.

00:05:14.500 But both people, great in the job.

00:05:16.900 And they have to reflexively hate Trump, so c'est la vie.

00:05:20.200 Finally, what is China's role in all of this?

00:05:22.840 China has ten times the GDP of Russia.

00:05:24.780 It has ten times the population of Russia.

00:05:27.000 China is the second largest economy in the world.

00:05:29.040 China contributes 30% of global economic growth.

00:05:31.660 And yet, we are told, Russia is the big threat. 0.83

00:05:35.100 We're colluding with Russia. 0.91

00:05:35.980 This is the end of the world.

00:05:37.180 Russia is our geopolitical foe. 0.92

00:05:38.640 To help us make sense of all of this, let's bring on Stephen Mosher.

00:05:41.960 Stephen is president of the Population Research Institute and a leading authority on China.

00:05:46.860 Stephen has been instrumental in exposing abuses in China's one-child policy.

00:05:51.000 He's the author of numerous books, including Journey of the Forbidden China,

00:05:55.080 A Mother's Ordeal, One Woman's Fight Against China's One-Child Policy, 0.62

00:05:58.260 Population Control, Real Costs, Illusory Benefits, Broken Earth, The Rural Chinese, 1.00

00:06:03.560 China Misperceived, American Illusions and Chinese Reality, and China Attacks. 0.59

00:06:09.180 I can barely say all of those titles, and he wrote all of those books.

00:06:12.460 I have written one book without any words in it.

00:06:14.580 Presumably, all of Stephen's have words.

00:06:16.420 That is very impressive.

00:06:17.580 He also frequently testifies before Congress, and he publishes all over the place.

00:06:21.400 Yes, but before we can bring Stephen on, before we do it, all I want to do is talk to Stephen

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00:08:55.260 Stephen, thank you for being here.

00:08:58.080 Oh, it's great to be here.

00:08:59.420 Stephen, my first question, how should conservatives view this Trump-Kim meeting?

00:09:03.640 Are we winning here? 0.91

00:09:04.620 Are we legitimating an insane, obese dictator? 0.68

00:09:07.380 What does President Trump want, and what is he going to get?

00:09:12.440 Well, I think it's very clear what President Trump wants, because he says very clearly what

00:09:16.760 he wants.

00:09:17.220 He's not interested in playing diplomatic games, and I think that's one of the reasons why

00:09:21.280 we have a new secretary of state, as of, you know, the time when Mr. Pompeo is confirmed,

00:09:28.980 which should be soon, because he was formerly in the House of Representatives and I think

00:09:32.720 has a lot of support on the Hill.

00:09:34.440 So, yeah, he says very clearly what he wants.

00:09:37.920 What we all want, and what we all should want, is the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula. 0.97

00:09:44.540 The South doesn't have any nukes, South Korea.

00:09:47.260 We pulled our nukes out some years ago, and North Korea is busily constructing and setting 1.00

00:09:52.740 off their own nukes and fitting them on the heads of nuclear missiles and threatening to 0.90

00:09:58.580 fire them at Guam and California.

00:10:00.420 So we need to take their missiles away from them. 0.72

00:10:02.360 We need to take their nukes away from them.

00:10:04.660 In the past, you know, we've had 25 years of bail policy.

00:10:07.840 I mean, we thought, at least President Clinton thought, he could buy Kim Jong-un's father,

00:10:15.140 Kim Jong-il, could bribe him into giving up his nuclear weapons program.

00:10:19.240 So we passed over a billion dollars plus, and he kept building nuclear weapons and missiles

00:10:23.880 in secret.

00:10:25.160 Bush, too, tried again in 2008, handed over a few hundred million dollars before he pulled

00:10:30.040 the plug on that.

00:10:30.700 You can't buy this guy off, because all he needs is time, and he's going to complete

00:10:35.940 these projects.

00:10:37.040 You've got to put pressure on him, and that's what we've seen Donald Trump do.

00:10:40.860 Relentless pressure, wave after wave of sanctions.

00:10:44.000 He's not afraid to upset China, which is, of course, North Korea's big brother. 0.98

00:10:49.340 The thing that people have to understand is that China has one mutual defense treaty with

00:10:55.080 one other country.

00:10:56.720 North Korea has one mutual defense treaty with one other country, and that country is

00:11:01.940 China.

00:11:02.620 So China and North Korea are bound at the hip. 0.57

00:11:05.460 North Korea is a tributary state of China, wouldn't exist were it not for China's continued 0.99

00:11:09.820 support.

00:11:10.280 And if you want to take out Kim Jong-un, weaken his regime, you go through China.

00:11:16.240 The road to solving Pyongyang, the problem of Pyongyang, runs through Beijing. 0.96

00:11:19.960 That seems quite clear to anybody who pays attention to this, and yet the media so rarely

00:11:28.460 report on it that we're talking about a tributary state, an ancillary state here, and that a lot

00:11:34.040 of this requires a proxy war with China, or it requires negotiating with China.

00:11:40.680 What does the replacement of Tillerson specifically with Pompeo mean for that relationship, mean for

00:11:46.900 our standing with China, or North Korea, or other countries around the world?

00:11:52.380 Well, I think Tillerson has been captured by the State Department, quite frankly.

00:11:56.260 I'm sure he's an honorable man, but, you know, the permanent diplomatic corps at the State

00:12:02.240 Department wants to resolve all problems by sitting down across the green felt-colored

00:12:07.240 table with your alternate, and working out some kind of diplomatic solution.

00:12:15.200 That's what they do.

00:12:16.000 They're diplomats.

00:12:17.300 The solution to North Korea does not run through those kinds of negotiations.

00:12:22.200 It runs from putting pressure, closing North Korea's ports, closing the border across the

00:12:27.940 Yalu River with China, closing the border up north with Russia, and isolating the North

00:12:33.380 Korean regime in the way it's never been isolated before.

00:12:36.060 And that's what's happening now.

00:12:38.240 China got very upset with this last round of sanctions because we have now sanctioned Chinese

00:12:44.220 companies that were doing business with North Korea.

00:12:47.660 We've sanctioned Chinese ships that were taking goods out to sea, including petroleum, and

00:12:54.080 doing at-sea transfers to North Korean ships to keep the lights on in North Korea, to keep 0.75

00:12:59.940 the economy humming. We have now made it clear to China that those kind of shenanigans have to

00:13:06.520 stop. And I think what's really put China on notice and what's really causing China to twist young 0.91

00:13:11.740 little rocket man's arm is the fact that we're now getting tough on trade. Because the thing that

00:13:17.320 China fears most is that we will wake up and recognize that they're taking $500 billion worth of

00:13:24.600 stuff for much each year, that according to the FBI, they're stealing $600 billion worth of

00:13:30.940 intellectual property, that they're engaging in constant cyber war against us. I mean, the list of

00:13:37.680 Chinese aggressive acts against the United States is almost endless. It covers every type of aggression, 1.00

00:13:44.540 from cyber aggression to territorial claims in the South China Sea, to a military buildup threatening our

00:13:51.260 allies in Asia to economic warfare. China might as well have, you know, carpet bombed the industrial 0.71

00:13:57.640 heartland of the United States, the way it's destroyed American industries and taken millions

00:14:02.600 of American jobs. And now we're getting tough on trade. And so I think we see Donald Trump, who's an

00:14:09.360 astute negotiator, using trade as a lever to get Beijing to really tighten the screws on North Korea.

00:14:16.440 And if Beijing gets serious about that, Kim Jong-un will be history very, very quickly.

00:14:22.140 This question of trade, people are freaking out, obviously, over the steel and aluminum tariffs,

00:14:28.340 even though there's plenty of precedent by Republican presidents. And I think they're missing the key

00:14:33.140 point, which is that Donald Trump is apparently issuing tariffs on steel and aluminum, except he's

00:14:39.520 exempting Canada. He's exempting Mexico. He said that our other allies can negotiate an exemption,

00:14:44.720 which I think is referring to Europe. So really, the only people it's going to hit are China, who are 0.98

00:14:49.420 illegally subsidizing steel and aluminum. Mitt Romney called Russia America's greatest geopolitical

00:14:55.160 threat. Barack Obama made fun of him for that. And now Democrats are calling Russia America's greatest 0.97

00:15:00.440 geopolitical threat. Meanwhile, China is agitating in the South China Sea. As you said, it has 10 times the

00:15:06.580 population and the GDP of Russia. What does the threat from China really look like? And how does it

00:15:12.960 compare to threats from other places in the world? Well, people need to understand that the Russian 0.73

00:15:18.880 economy is the size of the economy of New York State. So it's a fraction of the U.S. economy.

00:15:25.240 The Chinese economy is nearly as large as our economy. Some predictions say if we continue to allow

00:15:33.320 them to take unfair advantage of us, steal us blind in cyberspace, that their economy will actually be

00:15:40.700 larger than ours in a few years. We have never confronted an adversary for the last 200 years

00:15:46.900 with an economy larger than our own. So this is a new and growing threat. It makes the so-called

00:15:54.320 threat from Russia pale in comparison. China wants global dominance. It's very clear. They want to 0.75

00:16:01.700 dominate Africa, Eurasia. They're moving into Latin America. They have global ambitions. And those

00:16:08.840 ambitions require that one country that stands in China's way be removed as a superpower competitor.

00:16:16.900 And that one country that stands in China's way of global domination is the United States of America. 0.92

00:16:22.780 You know, people don't understand that beginning in kindergarten in China and running through

00:16:27.580 college. Chinese kids are taught that all of China's problems over the last hundred years have resulted

00:16:34.380 from American policies. They're taught to not only dislike us, they're taught to hate us for standing

00:16:39.640 in the way of China's return to dominance in Asia and the rest of the world. It's a very troubling

00:16:46.760 thing to look at closely. The curriculum, the constant denigration of the principles of human rights and

00:16:54.060 democracy that we stand for. China believes it as a superior model, a model of one-party

00:16:59.320 dictatorship, that it tells dictators around the world is a better path to development, is a better path to

00:17:06.040 economic power and growth than the U.S. model. So we have here an alternative civilization, an alternative

00:17:12.580 political culture that wants to replace our benevolent, you know, superpower leadership around the world with a much

00:17:19.660 more hard-edged, much more dictatorial controlling regime from China.

00:17:23.740 And of course, they can get away with all of that because they benefit from all of the innovation that comes

00:17:28.780 out of the United States and out of free countries. And then they steal it, as you said, to the tune of

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00:21:01.640 everything, folks. Okay, Stephen, you write that in 1991, Deng Xiaoping predicted a new Cold War

00:21:08.640 between the U.S. and China. Many have kind of written that off as a blip by a leader who's on his way out,

00:21:15.080 and we've tried a lot of strategies, both with China and with North Korea.

00:21:18.180 Strategic patience was our strategy with North Korea under the Obama administration. Didn't result

00:21:24.300 in great results. Leading from behind, we heard this on the world stage. What is the U.S. looking

00:21:30.680 for on the world stage in order to retain our dominance, in order to secure the world order?

00:21:37.380 What is it looking for now, and what should it be looking to secure?

00:21:41.840 Well, first of all, we have to be realistic about what China wants. China, you know, for people to

00:21:47.160 say that Trump is declaring a trade war on China or on the world is ridiculous. China has been at war

00:21:53.280 with us in trade terms from the time it opened up to the West in 1979. You know, I was the first

00:21:58.860 American social scientist allowed into China in 1979 and 1980. It was a dirt poor country at that time.

00:22:05.940 The reason it has become wealthy and dangerous and powerful is because of the biggest transfer of

00:22:11.620 wealth and technology in human history from the United States unwittingly to China. We have created

00:22:18.120 a monster. You know, and Deng Xiaoping in 1991 actually declared a war on the United States. He said

00:22:25.500 the old Cold War is over with Russia and between the Soviet Union, now Russia and the United States.

00:22:32.020 The U.S. won. The new Cold War has now begun between China and the United States, and China will win 1.00

00:22:37.520 this one. And I'm afraid if we don't get smart and move ahead early to meet this threat in five or

00:22:43.560 ten years, that threat will become reality, that they will win this Cold War. So, you know, if your

00:22:50.320 enemy says you're at war, then you're probably at war whether you want to be or not.

00:22:53.600 Yeah, you don't get a say in that. If one party says it, you're in it. What does this mean for North

00:23:00.940 Korea? Are we going to go to war with North Korea? Is North Korea a proxy war with China? Is there

00:23:06.700 a peaceful solution? What is the endgame with regard to this specific problem?

00:23:13.660 Well, I think North Korea is slowly being strangled to death, and China could, if it wanted to, if we 0.98

00:23:19.300 put enough pressure on China, it could tie the knot even tighter. Kim Jong-un will either, the endgame 0.75

00:23:24.340 is Kim Jong-un will be removed by his own military, which is so hungry that they're sending their troops

00:23:29.420 out to forage in the fields and steal people's crops from starving peasants. That's how hungry the

00:23:35.440 military is in North Korea. The second possible endgame is that Kim Jong-un actually does give up

00:23:42.320 his nukes and his missiles. I know that we've been planning various contingencies for various

00:23:47.340 contingencies, including going in and strategically removing, surgically removing those missiles and

00:23:52.960 those nukes. We've told China, in fact, that if we do that, it's not a threat to China. It's only

00:23:59.180 removing the threat from North Korea. China has 250,000 troops on North Korea's border ready to

00:24:05.280 move in in the case of regime collapse. So I think the noose is tightening. I think Kim Jong-un is

00:24:10.920 counting down the days that he's in power, and that's why he wants to meet with our president.

00:24:20.560 This is a direct result of the policy of getting tough and staying tough.

00:24:25.540 You know, and Trump has made it clear, if the negotiations don't work out,

00:24:29.980 the noose continues to tighten until Kim Jong-un simply ceases to be a threat.

00:24:36.280 Is, therefore, is regime change in North Korea, is that a win for China,

00:24:41.440 or is that what we should be hoping for as we tighten that noose?

00:24:45.900 Well, I think that Kim Jong-un is a particularly nasty, you know, hereditary dictator, the third in

00:24:51.700 line of the Kim dynasty, and that he should quickly join his grandfather and his father

00:24:57.040 in the Kim dynasty tomb outside of Pyongyang. They would be better than—North Korea would 1.00

00:25:02.020 be better off with almost anyone than the current Kim Jong-un. China's nightmare, of course, 0.89

00:25:08.100 is the total collapse of the North Korean regime, a unification of the Korean peninsula

00:25:12.220 under South Korean-American troops on the Yellow River across the border from China.

00:25:17.120 But that, I think, is the hope of the Korean people in the North. You've got a country where

00:25:22.960 a third of the population is malnourished. That is, getting too few calories to sustain life over

00:25:28.760 a long period of time. This is a country that desperately needs new leadership.

00:25:35.260 That makes sense to me. All right, Stephen, thank you very much for being here. You've

00:25:41.100 helped clear this up. It's obviously a very complex issue. I think a lot of people don't

00:25:46.140 understand the decades-long threat from China and the decades-long provocation and all of the IP theft

00:25:52.120 and all of the violation of WTO treaties. So thank you for clearing that up a little bit,

00:25:57.660 and we'll see what happens when President Trump goes over and meets with little rocket man. I have

00:26:01.860 this image of him just kind of sitting at the table and just punching him in the face or choking 0.72

00:26:05.460 him or something, but maybe that's a little too dramatic. That's too reality TV. Stephen,

00:26:09.940 thank you for being here. Thanks for having me.

00:26:13.260 So we, I think we've got to sign off, don't we? Oh, that's so awful. That is so, I got some good

00:26:18.780 stuff. Oh, do I have good stuff coming up? I want to explain a bit more about, you know,

00:26:23.180 our friend, the friend of the show, that hot dude, Lauren Southern, we're going to talk a little

00:26:26.680 bit more about how apparently her criticism of Islam or her satire of Islam, that's racist because 0.99

00:26:33.100 the UK apparently thinks that Islam is a race. I will clear that up for the United Kingdom and

00:26:38.020 we'll talk a little bit about Hillary, my third cousin or fourth cousin, twice removed. But I'm

00:26:42.400 sorry if you are on Facebook or YouTube. If you're on Facebook, you can't watch that. Come to dailywire.com.

00:26:48.620 If you go to dailywire.com, you will get me, the Andrew Klavan show, the Ben Shapiro show. You will get

00:26:53.140 the conversation. You'll, if you sign up right now, you will get to ask questions during the

00:26:56.960 conversation, which happens in like three seconds. Uh, Ben Shapiro is going to be doing the conversation

00:27:01.360 at 5.30 Eastern, 2.30 Pacific today. Make sure you get in there. Uh, only subscribers can ask

00:27:07.800 questions though. Everybody can watch. Many are called, few are chosen. Make sure to get in there.

00:27:11.760 Again, none of that matters. When the United States inevitably enters into a full-scale war with

00:27:18.240 China. When we defeat communist China, the left is going to be really sad. They're going to be so

00:27:24.280 sad. They've been rooting for communist China for, uh, about 70 or 80 years now. They've really

00:27:29.660 probably been rooting for a century ever since, ever since Russia fell. So you're going to want

00:27:33.760 this. This is the only FDA approved vessel to store all of those leftist tears. And you'll get

00:27:38.800 two kinds of leftist tears. You'll get the American leftist tears where they just wanted more strategic

00:27:43.080 patients. And you'll also get the Chinese communist leftist tears. And that blend is really, really 0.57

00:27:48.440 tasty. So go to dailywire.com. We'll be right back. All right. To our friend, Lauren, Lauren Southern,

00:28:04.680 she was detained. She was not allowed to enter into the United Kingdom because she's a terrorist now,

00:28:10.780 according to the UK. Now, of course, the UK has let in tons of terrorists and pimps and gangsters 0.75

00:28:15.520 and, uh, Islamist monsters over the past several decades, but they won't let in Lauren Southern,

00:28:21.220 a YouTube journalist, because we now know she handed out somewhere in Europe, she handed out satirical 0.89

00:28:28.560 pamphlets that were in the gay pride flag. And it said, Allah is queer. Allah is for LGBT equality. 0.99

00:28:35.060 Allah is for this right. And it's, it's obviously a satire of, uh, Vice magazine's famously

00:28:40.620 shallow article claiming that Jesus is gay and all of these things, you know, that, uh, 0.96

00:28:45.660 Christianity is awful and terrible and bigoted because of its traditional view of sexual morality. 1.00

00:28:51.180 But you can, when you do the, when you try to say the same things about Islam, you are denied 1.00

00:28:55.700 entrance to a country. You're banned from the United Kingdom and deported. So the UK cited these signs as

00:29:01.940 evidence of racism. We should, they, I guess everything is racism these days. Like when my coffee's

00:29:07.280 too hot in the morning and it burns my tongue, that's racism. Everything's racism. Islam is not

00:29:11.520 a race. It's actually a bit racist to say that Islam is a race. Not all brown people are Muslim.

00:29:16.400 That isn't how it works. And Islam hasn't been around forever. Islam is a religion and a religion

00:29:20.720 is a set of ideas and anybody can hold those ideas. Muhammad founded the religion of Islam after

00:29:26.340 meeting Bahira, a heretical Christian monk in Syria on a merchant trip with his uncle Abu Talib in the

00:29:31.760 7th century. I think the year was 610. Uh, Bahira, this monk that he hung out with there

00:29:36.620 has been alternately in history described as Arian or Nestorian. Those are two Christian heresies.

00:29:42.260 Uh, it's unclear which one he was. Um, some traditions refer to him as Nestorius or, or Sergius. Um,

00:29:49.540 but anyway, we do know, but everyone agrees on this guy that this guy existed. Um, both of those

00:29:55.600 heresies separated Christ's divinity and his humanity. Arianism denied Christ's divinity 0.98

00:30:00.960 altogether. You can remember that famous image of Santa Claus at the first council of Nicaea

00:30:06.200 punching the heretic Arius in the face. Uh, that that's where Arianism comes from. Islam was founded 1.00

00:30:12.520 in the year 610. It's only been around for 1400 years. We think of the Middle East. We think of all

00:30:18.440 the brown people in the Middle East. This is what the UK thinks of. Oh, all the brown people are Muslim. 1.00

00:30:22.380 That's right. Because they're conflating these things. 1400 years ago, there weren't any Muslims 0.85

00:30:26.580 because there wasn't any Islam. Syria used to be a Christian country. That's why Bahira was living 0.93

00:30:31.480 there. So there were some heretics too, but it was Christian. Uh, there were a lot of Jews in Medina

00:30:36.360 in, and now we think of Medina as the heart of Islam, one of the hearts of Islam. There were a lot

00:30:40.720 of Jews there, a tribe called the Banu Kureza. They lived in Medina until 627 when Muhammad came in

00:30:46.760 and beheaded all of their men, except for the handful who converted to Islam. Uh, just 100 years later, 0.89

00:30:52.060 Muslim forces under the Umayyad Caliphate had invaded Europe. Now we think, uh, this, a lot

00:30:58.620 of this comes back to, uh, the 8th century to 732 when these forces were turned back by Charles

00:31:05.340 Martel's forces at the Battle of Tours. Charles the Hammer, Charlemagne's grandfather. You would

00:31:10.800 be speaking Arabic right now if it were not for Charles Martel. And, and notice on the map, if you

00:31:15.680 look at a map sometime of Tours, Tours isn't 150 miles outside of Mecca. The Tours is 150 miles

00:31:22.360 outside of Paris. Tours is right outside of Paris. Those Muslim forces in just a century made it all 1.00

00:31:27.240 the way into the heart of Europe. The historian Edward Gibbon wrote of that battle, the Battle

00:31:32.060 of Tours, quote, a victorious line of march had been prolonged above a thousand miles from the rock

00:31:37.200 of Gibraltar to the banks of the Loire. The repetition of an equal space would have carried the

00:31:43.560 Saracens to the confines of Poland and the highlands of Scotland. The Rhine is not more

00:31:48.860 impassable than the Nile or Euphrates, and the Arabian fleet might have sailed without a naval

00:31:53.700 combat into the mouth of the Thames, right into England. Uh, perhaps the interpretation of the

00:31:59.100 Quran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a 1.00

00:32:04.740 circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Muhammad. Ironically, that's sort of 0.87

00:32:10.200 happening. Ironically, that's already happened. And the UK allows in a ton of Muslim terrorists, 1.00

00:32:15.860 but it won't let in Lauren Southern, who created a little satire of Islam. The same sort of satire 0.99

00:32:23.380 that would compare it to Christianity, where all of these things are tolerated all the time.

00:32:27.140 Islam is not a race. It is a religion, which is to say a set of ideas, which is to say a way of

00:32:32.440 viewing the world. I can say this as a Sicilian, someone of Sicilian descent. Sicilians and Arabs are 0.76

00:32:38.240 virtually indistinguishable. They look almost exactly the same. Sicilians tend to be Catholic,

00:32:44.280 and Arabs tend to be Muslim, which is why Sicily is different than Arabian countries. 0.73

00:32:48.980 Uh, they look the same, but they view the world differently. They have a different framework,

00:32:52.640 a moral framework, a different, uh, worldview, as we call it. That's why those are different things.

00:32:58.400 And to try to conflate a religion with a race is, is really awful, because what you're saying is,

00:33:03.260 oh, those people over there, those, those ethnic minorities, they, they can't think. 1.00

00:33:07.820 They're not capable of thinking that we can think. We can think of different ideas and have

00:33:11.600 different religious points of view, but they can't. They're just born into this religion.

00:33:15.160 They have to stay that way. So it's racist to, to, to, to criticize their religion. But of course,

00:33:20.980 that isn't the case. They're people, they're people just like you and me, pal. And they have

00:33:24.420 faculties of reason. And some visions of the world are, are better than other visions of the world.

00:33:30.100 Some visions of the world are more compatible with certain cultures and civilizations than other

00:33:34.280 visions of the world. There's nothing racist about that. And there's nothing there. If one

00:33:39.120 cannot tolerate satire, if a vision of the world cannot tolerate satire, perhaps that vision has

00:33:44.240 something wrong. In other news, before we go, I've got, I just, I can't help but cover this.

00:33:50.220 Hillary Clinton slipped in India. Hillary Clinton slipped in India. This was trending news

00:33:54.700 all over the world. It was trending. I think, uh, our writer, Ryan Sabedra covered it.

00:33:59.260 And it, and so I'll just show you, I'll show you the clip. Then we can talk about it.

00:34:20.020 You know, when I saw this trending on Twitter, my first, I actually thought, oh, you know,

00:34:24.300 do, I don't, I don't want to get pleasure out of watching some old woman lose her footing on, 1.00

00:34:29.740 on slippery stairs. I don't, why am I, why, who cares? Why are we, why is this trending?

00:34:33.900 But everybody enjoyed it. Everybody thought like, oh, there's Hillary. She just, she didn't hurt 0.94

00:34:37.860 herself. She just kind of slept a little. Why, why did this trend? Why did we all enjoy it? Because

00:34:42.880 this wasn't her worst gaffe on the trip. Here is her worst gaffe in India.

00:34:46.000 If you look at the map of the United States, there's all that red in the middle where Trump

00:34:51.200 won. I win the coasts. I win, you know, Illinois and Minnesota, places like that. But what the map

00:34:56.920 doesn't show you is that I won the places that represent two thirds of America's gross domestic

00:35:04.920 product. So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole

00:35:16.380 campaign, make America great again, was looking backwards. You know, you didn't like black people 1.00

00:35:22.520 getting rights. You don't like women, you know, getting jobs. You don't want to, you know, see that 1.00

00:35:26.660 Indian American succeeding more than you are. Whatever your problem is, I'm going to solve it. 1.00

00:35:33.100 Oh, that's why we were all happy. Okay. That's why we were all happy when she slipped and looked

00:35:38.860 kind of foolish in India because she's a hateful liar. She hates her countrymen and she lies about 1.00

00:35:45.260 them. And then she accuses them of the worst possible things with no evidence whatsoever.

00:35:49.240 And she says, well, I know why I lost. I thought it was the Macedonian teenagers and James Comey and

00:35:54.220 Barack Obama and Joe Biden and this and that and Anthony Weiner and blah, blah, blah, everybody,

00:35:59.440 but Hillary, everybody, but number one, you know, the accountable lady who's going to answer the 1.00

00:36:02.980 phone at three in the morning. Oh, except she didn't. When she lost, she didn't show up. And

00:36:06.680 John Podesta had to go out there and say, Hillary has always been with you except for right now when

00:36:11.040 it matters. And then she's not with you. She's somewhere else probably throwing things at the 0.93

00:36:14.160 wall. A racist, poor people. That's why Hillary won. That's what she thinks of her countrymen. 1.00

00:36:18.740 That's what she thinks of half the country. She hasn't learned a thing in really in her entire

00:36:22.700 career, but she certainly hasn't learned a thing since she called half the country deplorable and

00:36:26.900 irredeemable. Austin Peterson and I were talking about this yesterday about how politicians need to like

00:36:31.680 people. This is why actors make good politicians and vice versa. It's why some of the great Republican

00:36:37.820 politicians have been actors. You need to like people. You have to be concerned with the human

00:36:43.020 condition and the eternal questions. That's the craft of an actor. And you also have to like people

00:36:48.580 so you can build a character or talk to your constituents or work for people for not a lot of

00:36:52.480 money and get a lot of flack for it. Hillary doesn't do either of those. She doesn't like people. 1.00

00:36:56.740 She's not introspective. She doesn't think about the eternal questions. She just blames everybody

00:37:02.860 else and recites the same old tired lies that she's been doing her entire career. She's a terrible 0.99

00:37:07.980 politician. Tell me something I don't know. Also, just how awful, obviously she doesn't like her 1.00

00:37:14.200 countrymen and she hates her president, but how awful to deride her president and her countrymen on

00:37:19.760 foreign soil. How awful to go overseas and say, yeah, my country's full. Most of the people in my country

00:37:25.560 are idiots, especially the poor ones. The poor ones are all racists and I hate them and I hate my 1.00

00:37:30.140 president. He's doing a terrible job. Just really, she should be profoundly ashamed of herself. And 1.00

00:37:34.880 I'm ashamed of her because she's in my family. The lefties try to say that we're obsessed with

00:37:39.540 Hillary Clinton. They say, why are you talking about her? She's old news. She isn't old news. 1.00

00:37:43.140 She isn't old news. She's going around pretending to be the president and saying awful things about her 1.00

00:37:47.520 country and truly embarrassing her country. She is a true embarrassment to the United States. 0.99

00:37:51.640 And so I'm not obsessed. I didn't think about Hillary Clinton until she went on television and 0.96

00:37:57.640 started saying awful things about America again. If you go into the woods and hide Hillary in 1.00

00:38:01.420 Chappaqua, let's make a pact. If you stop embarrassing your country, we'll stop laughing

00:38:06.740 at little things when you make a fool of yourself in foreign countries. How's that work? That's my deal 0.98

00:38:11.300 that I'm offering to my cousin Hillary. Okay. That's our show today. Make sure you get your mailbag

00:38:15.360 questions in. That is going to be Thursday. You got some other great, I just talked to a guest we're

00:38:20.200 going to bring on soon. He is a good one. There is, we got some good stuff coming up,

00:38:24.080 but I'm not going to ruin the surprise. Also, I'm going to be in New York for some speaking

00:38:27.880 engagements. Just booked my flight. I'll let you know some more information about that

00:38:31.480 as it becomes available. And alas, just a quick thank you to Charlotte Pence. She gave us the new

00:38:36.320 book, A View of the Vice President from Marlon Bundo, The Bunny Rabbit. So you can check that out.

00:38:41.900 Get that book on Amazon. It's very good. I've got it now as a permanent part of my set.

00:38:45.620 Okay. That's the show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. Come back tomorrow.

00:38:49.280 We'll do it all again.

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Ep. 120 - Little Rocket Man： Burning Out His Fuse ft. Steven Mosher

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