Ep. 120 - Little Rocket Man： Burning Out His Fuse ft. Steven Mosher
Summary
In this episode, we discuss President Trump's eagerly awaited meeting with Kim Jong-un, Rex Tillerson's dismissal, and how China fits into all of this with Stephen Mosher, author of the upcoming book, "Bully of Asia: Why China's Dream Is the Threat to the New World Order," and some thoughts on Islam and Hillary Clinton.
Transcript
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I don't think it's going to be a long, long time till Touchdown brings him round again to find.
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Little Rocket Man is burning out his fuse out there alone.
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Sanctions, missile defense, and a CIA director as the nation's new top diplomat.
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We will discuss President Trump's eagerly awaited meeting with Kim Jong-un, Rex Tillerson's dismissal,
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and how China fits into all of this with Stephen Mosher, author of the upcoming book,
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Bully of Asia, Why China's Dream is the Threat to the New World Order.
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Then, some thoughts on Islam and Hillary Clinton, which poses the greater threat to Western civilization.
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President Trump is promising to meet with Kim Jong-un.
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I'm so lonely, so lonely, so lonely, so lonely, and sadly alone.
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There's no one, just me only, sitting on my little throne.
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I work weary hard and make up great friends, but nobody listens, no one understands.
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Seems like no one takes me seriously, and so I'm Ronery.
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Sorry, I was just very, I was really sad to watch that poor little dictator just crying about how Ronery he is.
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Obviously, sure, Kim Jong-un went to the Olympics.
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That was trying to display that dragon lady on the world stage.
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But as Victor Davis Hanson points out in American Greatness, Japan, South Korea, and the United States are expanding missile defense systems that are poised to end North Korea's first strike capability, if not China's as well.
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There is talk that Japan is developing nuclear weapons, which again would be pointed directly at North Korea as well as at China.
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Trump has pushed tough sanctions on North Korea, which we have evidence are working to further destroy their economy.
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Meanwhile, I don't know if you've noticed your 401k or anything, but our economy is doing quite well.
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And China is preparing for new waves of refugees to pour across the border.
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Plus, we're smacking China on trade over their subsidizing the steel and aluminum industries in violation of the WTO, in violation of the World Trade Organization.
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We're also denying visas to lots of Chinese students and to property holders.
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One other thing that might be making Kim Jong-un nervous is that the new top diplomat is a CIA guy.
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And he wakes up, he says, oh, well, they're just planning a meeting with me.
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So they fired their top diplomat and installed a CIA guy.
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That cannot be good if you are sitting in Pyongyang.
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On that point, President Trump has fired Rex Tillerson.
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So he tweeted this morning, he said, Mike Pompeo, director of the CIA, will become our new secretary of state.
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Gina Haspel will become the new director of the CIA, the first woman so chosen.
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Now, lefties are angry because Pompeo is a pretty hardline conservative and Gina Haspel is the new CIA director.
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And it's always good when the Washington Post is angry.
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That's how you know that Trump has done a good thing.
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He was a bulldog on Benghazi and on Hillary Clinton's role in Benghazi.
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And Gina Haspel is also usually lauded by people on both sides of the aisle.
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It's only when Donald Trump says something nice about her that the left has to pretend she's awful.
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In 2002, the New York Times accused Haspel of ordering the destruction of Abu Ghraib torture tapes.
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Although, actually, it turns out it wasn't Haspel who did that.
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It was Haspel's boss, Jose Rodriguez, who gave the order.
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Former Obama administration officials actually lauded Haspel's promotion to the number two job in 2017.
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So now they're going to say she's awful and she tortures people.
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I don't know why that's a terrible thing, but to torture terrorists.
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But they're going to say that's awful and she's terrible.
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And they have to reflexively hate Trump, so c'est la vie.
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China is the second largest economy in the world.
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China contributes 30% of global economic growth.
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And yet, we are told, Russia is the big threat.
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To help us make sense of all of this, let's bring on Stephen Mosher.
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Stephen is president of the Population Research Institute and a leading authority on China.
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Stephen has been instrumental in exposing abuses in China's one-child policy.
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He's the author of numerous books, including Journey of the Forbidden China,
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A Mother's Ordeal, One Woman's Fight Against China's One-Child Policy,
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Population Control, Real Costs, Illusory Benefits, Broken Earth, The Rural Chinese,
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China Misperceived, American Illusions and Chinese Reality, and China Attacks.
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I can barely say all of those titles, and he wrote all of those books.
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I have written one book without any words in it.
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He also frequently testifies before Congress, and he publishes all over the place.
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Yes, but before we can bring Stephen on, before we do it, all I want to do is talk to Stephen
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Before we can do that, we have got to talk about war.
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Stephen, my first question, how should conservatives view this Trump-Kim meeting?
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What does President Trump want, and what is he going to get?
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Well, I think it's very clear what President Trump wants, because he says very clearly what
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He's not interested in playing diplomatic games, and I think that's one of the reasons why
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we have a new secretary of state, as of, you know, the time when Mr. Pompeo is confirmed,
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which should be soon, because he was formerly in the House of Representatives and I think
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What we all want, and what we all should want, is the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula.
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We pulled our nukes out some years ago, and North Korea is busily constructing and setting
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off their own nukes and fitting them on the heads of nuclear missiles and threatening to
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So we need to take their missiles away from them.
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In the past, you know, we've had 25 years of bail policy.
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I mean, we thought, at least President Clinton thought, he could buy Kim Jong-un's father,
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Kim Jong-il, could bribe him into giving up his nuclear weapons program.
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So we passed over a billion dollars plus, and he kept building nuclear weapons and missiles
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Bush, too, tried again in 2008, handed over a few hundred million dollars before he pulled
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You can't buy this guy off, because all he needs is time, and he's going to complete
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You've got to put pressure on him, and that's what we've seen Donald Trump do.
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Relentless pressure, wave after wave of sanctions.
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He's not afraid to upset China, which is, of course, North Korea's big brother.
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The thing that people have to understand is that China has one mutual defense treaty with
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North Korea has one mutual defense treaty with one other country, and that country is
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North Korea is a tributary state of China, wouldn't exist were it not for China's continued
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And if you want to take out Kim Jong-un, weaken his regime, you go through China.
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The road to solving Pyongyang, the problem of Pyongyang, runs through Beijing.
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That seems quite clear to anybody who pays attention to this, and yet the media so rarely
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report on it that we're talking about a tributary state, an ancillary state here, and that a lot
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of this requires a proxy war with China, or it requires negotiating with China.
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What does the replacement of Tillerson specifically with Pompeo mean for that relationship, mean for
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our standing with China, or North Korea, or other countries around the world?
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Well, I think Tillerson has been captured by the State Department, quite frankly.
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I'm sure he's an honorable man, but, you know, the permanent diplomatic corps at the State
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Department wants to resolve all problems by sitting down across the green felt-colored
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table with your alternate, and working out some kind of diplomatic solution.
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The solution to North Korea does not run through those kinds of negotiations.
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It runs from putting pressure, closing North Korea's ports, closing the border across the
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Yalu River with China, closing the border up north with Russia, and isolating the North
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Korean regime in the way it's never been isolated before.
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China got very upset with this last round of sanctions because we have now sanctioned Chinese
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companies that were doing business with North Korea.
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We've sanctioned Chinese ships that were taking goods out to sea, including petroleum, and
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doing at-sea transfers to North Korean ships to keep the lights on in North Korea, to keep
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the economy humming. We have now made it clear to China that those kind of shenanigans have to
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stop. And I think what's really put China on notice and what's really causing China to twist young
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little rocket man's arm is the fact that we're now getting tough on trade. Because the thing that
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China fears most is that we will wake up and recognize that they're taking $500 billion worth of
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stuff for much each year, that according to the FBI, they're stealing $600 billion worth of
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intellectual property, that they're engaging in constant cyber war against us. I mean, the list of
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Chinese aggressive acts against the United States is almost endless. It covers every type of aggression,
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from cyber aggression to territorial claims in the South China Sea, to a military buildup threatening our
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allies in Asia to economic warfare. China might as well have, you know, carpet bombed the industrial
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heartland of the United States, the way it's destroyed American industries and taken millions
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of American jobs. And now we're getting tough on trade. And so I think we see Donald Trump, who's an
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astute negotiator, using trade as a lever to get Beijing to really tighten the screws on North Korea.
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And if Beijing gets serious about that, Kim Jong-un will be history very, very quickly.
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This question of trade, people are freaking out, obviously, over the steel and aluminum tariffs,
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even though there's plenty of precedent by Republican presidents. And I think they're missing the key
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point, which is that Donald Trump is apparently issuing tariffs on steel and aluminum, except he's
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exempting Canada. He's exempting Mexico. He said that our other allies can negotiate an exemption,
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which I think is referring to Europe. So really, the only people it's going to hit are China, who are
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illegally subsidizing steel and aluminum. Mitt Romney called Russia America's greatest geopolitical
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threat. Barack Obama made fun of him for that. And now Democrats are calling Russia America's greatest
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geopolitical threat. Meanwhile, China is agitating in the South China Sea. As you said, it has 10 times the
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population and the GDP of Russia. What does the threat from China really look like? And how does it
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compare to threats from other places in the world? Well, people need to understand that the Russian
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economy is the size of the economy of New York State. So it's a fraction of the U.S. economy.
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The Chinese economy is nearly as large as our economy. Some predictions say if we continue to allow
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them to take unfair advantage of us, steal us blind in cyberspace, that their economy will actually be
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larger than ours in a few years. We have never confronted an adversary for the last 200 years
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with an economy larger than our own. So this is a new and growing threat. It makes the so-called
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threat from Russia pale in comparison. China wants global dominance. It's very clear. They want to
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dominate Africa, Eurasia. They're moving into Latin America. They have global ambitions. And those
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ambitions require that one country that stands in China's way be removed as a superpower competitor.
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And that one country that stands in China's way of global domination is the United States of America.
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You know, people don't understand that beginning in kindergarten in China and running through
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college. Chinese kids are taught that all of China's problems over the last hundred years have resulted
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from American policies. They're taught to not only dislike us, they're taught to hate us for standing
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in the way of China's return to dominance in Asia and the rest of the world. It's a very troubling
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thing to look at closely. The curriculum, the constant denigration of the principles of human rights and
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democracy that we stand for. China believes it as a superior model, a model of one-party
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dictatorship, that it tells dictators around the world is a better path to development, is a better path to
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economic power and growth than the U.S. model. So we have here an alternative civilization, an alternative
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And of course, they can get away with all of that because they benefit from all of the innovation that comes
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everything, folks. Okay, Stephen, you write that in 1991, Deng Xiaoping predicted a new Cold War
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between the U.S. and China. Many have kind of written that off as a blip by a leader who's on his way out,
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and we've tried a lot of strategies, both with China and with North Korea.
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Strategic patience was our strategy with North Korea under the Obama administration. Didn't result
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in great results. Leading from behind, we heard this on the world stage. What is the U.S. looking
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for on the world stage in order to retain our dominance, in order to secure the world order?
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What is it looking for now, and what should it be looking to secure?
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Well, first of all, we have to be realistic about what China wants. China, you know, for people to
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say that Trump is declaring a trade war on China or on the world is ridiculous. China has been at war
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with us in trade terms from the time it opened up to the West in 1979. You know, I was the first
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American social scientist allowed into China in 1979 and 1980. It was a dirt poor country at that time.
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The reason it has become wealthy and dangerous and powerful is because of the biggest transfer of
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wealth and technology in human history from the United States unwittingly to China. We have created
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a monster. You know, and Deng Xiaoping in 1991 actually declared a war on the United States. He said
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the old Cold War is over with Russia and between the Soviet Union, now Russia and the United States.
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The U.S. won. The new Cold War has now begun between China and the United States, and China will win
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this one. And I'm afraid if we don't get smart and move ahead early to meet this threat in five or
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ten years, that threat will become reality, that they will win this Cold War. So, you know, if your
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enemy says you're at war, then you're probably at war whether you want to be or not.
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Yeah, you don't get a say in that. If one party says it, you're in it. What does this mean for North
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Korea? Are we going to go to war with North Korea? Is North Korea a proxy war with China? Is there
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a peaceful solution? What is the endgame with regard to this specific problem?
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Well, I think North Korea is slowly being strangled to death, and China could, if it wanted to, if we
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put enough pressure on China, it could tie the knot even tighter. Kim Jong-un will either, the endgame
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is Kim Jong-un will be removed by his own military, which is so hungry that they're sending their troops
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out to forage in the fields and steal people's crops from starving peasants. That's how hungry the
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military is in North Korea. The second possible endgame is that Kim Jong-un actually does give up
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his nukes and his missiles. I know that we've been planning various contingencies for various
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contingencies, including going in and strategically removing, surgically removing those missiles and
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those nukes. We've told China, in fact, that if we do that, it's not a threat to China. It's only
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removing the threat from North Korea. China has 250,000 troops on North Korea's border ready to
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move in in the case of regime collapse. So I think the noose is tightening. I think Kim Jong-un is
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counting down the days that he's in power, and that's why he wants to meet with our president.
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This is a direct result of the policy of getting tough and staying tough.
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You know, and Trump has made it clear, if the negotiations don't work out,
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the noose continues to tighten until Kim Jong-un simply ceases to be a threat.
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Is, therefore, is regime change in North Korea, is that a win for China,
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or is that what we should be hoping for as we tighten that noose?
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Well, I think that Kim Jong-un is a particularly nasty, you know, hereditary dictator, the third in
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line of the Kim dynasty, and that he should quickly join his grandfather and his father
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in the Kim dynasty tomb outside of Pyongyang. They would be better than—North Korea would
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be better off with almost anyone than the current Kim Jong-un. China's nightmare, of course,
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is the total collapse of the North Korean regime, a unification of the Korean peninsula
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under South Korean-American troops on the Yellow River across the border from China.
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But that, I think, is the hope of the Korean people in the North. You've got a country where
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a third of the population is malnourished. That is, getting too few calories to sustain life over
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a long period of time. This is a country that desperately needs new leadership.
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That makes sense to me. All right, Stephen, thank you very much for being here. You've
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helped clear this up. It's obviously a very complex issue. I think a lot of people don't
00:25:46.140
understand the decades-long threat from China and the decades-long provocation and all of the IP theft
00:25:52.120
and all of the violation of WTO treaties. So thank you for clearing that up a little bit,
00:25:57.660
and we'll see what happens when President Trump goes over and meets with little rocket man. I have
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this image of him just kind of sitting at the table and just punching him in the face or choking
00:26:05.460
him or something, but maybe that's a little too dramatic. That's too reality TV. Stephen,
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thank you for being here. Thanks for having me.
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So we, I think we've got to sign off, don't we? Oh, that's so awful. That is so, I got some good
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stuff. Oh, do I have good stuff coming up? I want to explain a bit more about, you know,
00:26:23.180
our friend, the friend of the show, that hot dude, Lauren Southern, we're going to talk a little
00:26:26.680
bit more about how apparently her criticism of Islam or her satire of Islam, that's racist because
00:26:33.100
the UK apparently thinks that Islam is a race. I will clear that up for the United Kingdom and
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we'll talk a little bit about Hillary, my third cousin or fourth cousin, twice removed. But I'm
00:26:42.400
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Again, none of that matters. When the United States inevitably enters into a full-scale war with
00:27:18.240
China. When we defeat communist China, the left is going to be really sad. They're going to be so
00:27:24.280
sad. They've been rooting for communist China for, uh, about 70 or 80 years now. They've really
00:27:29.660
probably been rooting for a century ever since, ever since Russia fell. So you're going to want
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this. This is the only FDA approved vessel to store all of those leftist tears. And you'll get
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two kinds of leftist tears. You'll get the American leftist tears where they just wanted more strategic
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patients. And you'll also get the Chinese communist leftist tears. And that blend is really, really
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tasty. So go to dailywire.com. We'll be right back. All right. To our friend, Lauren, Lauren Southern,
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she was detained. She was not allowed to enter into the United Kingdom because she's a terrorist now,
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according to the UK. Now, of course, the UK has let in tons of terrorists and pimps and gangsters
00:28:15.520
and, uh, Islamist monsters over the past several decades, but they won't let in Lauren Southern,
00:28:21.220
a YouTube journalist, because we now know she handed out somewhere in Europe, she handed out satirical
00:28:28.560
pamphlets that were in the gay pride flag. And it said, Allah is queer. Allah is for LGBT equality.
00:28:35.060
Allah is for this right. And it's, it's obviously a satire of, uh, Vice magazine's famously
00:28:40.620
shallow article claiming that Jesus is gay and all of these things, you know, that, uh,
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Christianity is awful and terrible and bigoted because of its traditional view of sexual morality.
00:28:51.180
But you can, when you do the, when you try to say the same things about Islam, you are denied
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entrance to a country. You're banned from the United Kingdom and deported. So the UK cited these signs as
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evidence of racism. We should, they, I guess everything is racism these days. Like when my coffee's
00:29:07.280
too hot in the morning and it burns my tongue, that's racism. Everything's racism. Islam is not
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a race. It's actually a bit racist to say that Islam is a race. Not all brown people are Muslim.
00:29:16.400
That isn't how it works. And Islam hasn't been around forever. Islam is a religion and a religion
00:29:20.720
is a set of ideas and anybody can hold those ideas. Muhammad founded the religion of Islam after
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meeting Bahira, a heretical Christian monk in Syria on a merchant trip with his uncle Abu Talib in the
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7th century. I think the year was 610. Uh, Bahira, this monk that he hung out with there
00:29:36.620
has been alternately in history described as Arian or Nestorian. Those are two Christian heresies.
00:29:42.260
Uh, it's unclear which one he was. Um, some traditions refer to him as Nestorius or, or Sergius. Um,
00:29:49.540
but anyway, we do know, but everyone agrees on this guy that this guy existed. Um, both of those
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heresies separated Christ's divinity and his humanity. Arianism denied Christ's divinity
00:30:00.960
altogether. You can remember that famous image of Santa Claus at the first council of Nicaea
00:30:06.200
punching the heretic Arius in the face. Uh, that that's where Arianism comes from. Islam was founded
00:30:12.520
in the year 610. It's only been around for 1400 years. We think of the Middle East. We think of all
00:30:18.440
the brown people in the Middle East. This is what the UK thinks of. Oh, all the brown people are Muslim.
00:30:22.380
That's right. Because they're conflating these things. 1400 years ago, there weren't any Muslims
00:30:26.580
because there wasn't any Islam. Syria used to be a Christian country. That's why Bahira was living
00:30:31.480
there. So there were some heretics too, but it was Christian. Uh, there were a lot of Jews in Medina
00:30:36.360
in, and now we think of Medina as the heart of Islam, one of the hearts of Islam. There were a lot
00:30:40.720
of Jews there, a tribe called the Banu Kureza. They lived in Medina until 627 when Muhammad came in
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and beheaded all of their men, except for the handful who converted to Islam. Uh, just 100 years later,
00:30:52.060
Muslim forces under the Umayyad Caliphate had invaded Europe. Now we think, uh, this, a lot
00:30:58.620
of this comes back to, uh, the 8th century to 732 when these forces were turned back by Charles
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Martel's forces at the Battle of Tours. Charles the Hammer, Charlemagne's grandfather. You would
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be speaking Arabic right now if it were not for Charles Martel. And, and notice on the map, if you
00:31:15.680
look at a map sometime of Tours, Tours isn't 150 miles outside of Mecca. The Tours is 150 miles
00:31:22.360
outside of Paris. Tours is right outside of Paris. Those Muslim forces in just a century made it all
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the way into the heart of Europe. The historian Edward Gibbon wrote of that battle, the Battle
00:31:32.060
of Tours, quote, a victorious line of march had been prolonged above a thousand miles from the rock
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of Gibraltar to the banks of the Loire. The repetition of an equal space would have carried the
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Saracens to the confines of Poland and the highlands of Scotland. The Rhine is not more
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impassable than the Nile or Euphrates, and the Arabian fleet might have sailed without a naval
00:31:53.700
combat into the mouth of the Thames, right into England. Uh, perhaps the interpretation of the
00:31:59.100
Quran would now be taught in the schools of Oxford, and her pulpits might demonstrate to a
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circumcised people the sanctity and truth of the revelation of Muhammad. Ironically, that's sort of
00:32:10.200
happening. Ironically, that's already happened. And the UK allows in a ton of Muslim terrorists,
00:32:15.860
but it won't let in Lauren Southern, who created a little satire of Islam. The same sort of satire
00:32:23.380
that would compare it to Christianity, where all of these things are tolerated all the time.
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Islam is not a race. It is a religion, which is to say a set of ideas, which is to say a way of
00:32:32.440
viewing the world. I can say this as a Sicilian, someone of Sicilian descent. Sicilians and Arabs are
00:32:38.240
virtually indistinguishable. They look almost exactly the same. Sicilians tend to be Catholic,
00:32:44.280
and Arabs tend to be Muslim, which is why Sicily is different than Arabian countries.
00:32:48.980
Uh, they look the same, but they view the world differently. They have a different framework,
00:32:52.640
a moral framework, a different, uh, worldview, as we call it. That's why those are different things.
00:32:58.400
And to try to conflate a religion with a race is, is really awful, because what you're saying is,
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oh, those people over there, those, those ethnic minorities, they, they can't think.
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They're not capable of thinking that we can think. We can think of different ideas and have
00:33:11.600
different religious points of view, but they can't. They're just born into this religion.
00:33:15.160
They have to stay that way. So it's racist to, to, to, to criticize their religion. But of course,
00:33:20.980
that isn't the case. They're people, they're people just like you and me, pal. And they have
00:33:24.420
faculties of reason. And some visions of the world are, are better than other visions of the world.
00:33:30.100
Some visions of the world are more compatible with certain cultures and civilizations than other
00:33:34.280
visions of the world. There's nothing racist about that. And there's nothing there. If one
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cannot tolerate satire, if a vision of the world cannot tolerate satire, perhaps that vision has
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something wrong. In other news, before we go, I've got, I just, I can't help but cover this.
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Hillary Clinton slipped in India. Hillary Clinton slipped in India. This was trending news
00:33:54.700
all over the world. It was trending. I think, uh, our writer, Ryan Sabedra covered it.
00:33:59.260
And it, and so I'll just show you, I'll show you the clip. Then we can talk about it.
00:34:20.020
You know, when I saw this trending on Twitter, my first, I actually thought, oh, you know,
00:34:24.300
do, I don't, I don't want to get pleasure out of watching some old woman lose her footing on,
00:34:29.740
on slippery stairs. I don't, why am I, why, who cares? Why are we, why is this trending?
00:34:33.900
But everybody enjoyed it. Everybody thought like, oh, there's Hillary. She just, she didn't hurt
00:34:37.860
herself. She just kind of slept a little. Why, why did this trend? Why did we all enjoy it? Because
00:34:42.880
this wasn't her worst gaffe on the trip. Here is her worst gaffe in India.
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If you look at the map of the United States, there's all that red in the middle where Trump
00:34:51.200
won. I win the coasts. I win, you know, Illinois and Minnesota, places like that. But what the map
00:34:56.920
doesn't show you is that I won the places that represent two thirds of America's gross domestic
00:35:04.920
product. So I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole
00:35:16.380
campaign, make America great again, was looking backwards. You know, you didn't like black people
00:35:22.520
getting rights. You don't like women, you know, getting jobs. You don't want to, you know, see that
00:35:26.660
Indian American succeeding more than you are. Whatever your problem is, I'm going to solve it.
00:35:33.100
Oh, that's why we were all happy. Okay. That's why we were all happy when she slipped and looked
00:35:38.860
kind of foolish in India because she's a hateful liar. She hates her countrymen and she lies about
00:35:45.260
them. And then she accuses them of the worst possible things with no evidence whatsoever.
00:35:49.240
And she says, well, I know why I lost. I thought it was the Macedonian teenagers and James Comey and
00:35:54.220
Barack Obama and Joe Biden and this and that and Anthony Weiner and blah, blah, blah, everybody,
00:35:59.440
but Hillary, everybody, but number one, you know, the accountable lady who's going to answer the
00:36:02.980
phone at three in the morning. Oh, except she didn't. When she lost, she didn't show up. And
00:36:06.680
John Podesta had to go out there and say, Hillary has always been with you except for right now when
00:36:11.040
it matters. And then she's not with you. She's somewhere else probably throwing things at the
00:36:14.160
wall. A racist, poor people. That's why Hillary won. That's what she thinks of her countrymen.
00:36:18.740
That's what she thinks of half the country. She hasn't learned a thing in really in her entire
00:36:22.700
career, but she certainly hasn't learned a thing since she called half the country deplorable and
00:36:26.900
irredeemable. Austin Peterson and I were talking about this yesterday about how politicians need to like
00:36:31.680
people. This is why actors make good politicians and vice versa. It's why some of the great Republican
00:36:37.820
politicians have been actors. You need to like people. You have to be concerned with the human
00:36:43.020
condition and the eternal questions. That's the craft of an actor. And you also have to like people
00:36:48.580
so you can build a character or talk to your constituents or work for people for not a lot of
00:36:52.480
money and get a lot of flack for it. Hillary doesn't do either of those. She doesn't like people.
00:36:56.740
She's not introspective. She doesn't think about the eternal questions. She just blames everybody
00:37:02.860
else and recites the same old tired lies that she's been doing her entire career. She's a terrible
00:37:07.980
politician. Tell me something I don't know. Also, just how awful, obviously she doesn't like her
00:37:14.200
countrymen and she hates her president, but how awful to deride her president and her countrymen on
00:37:19.760
foreign soil. How awful to go overseas and say, yeah, my country's full. Most of the people in my country
00:37:25.560
are idiots, especially the poor ones. The poor ones are all racists and I hate them and I hate my
00:37:30.140
president. He's doing a terrible job. Just really, she should be profoundly ashamed of herself. And
00:37:34.880
I'm ashamed of her because she's in my family. The lefties try to say that we're obsessed with
00:37:39.540
Hillary Clinton. They say, why are you talking about her? She's old news. She isn't old news.
00:37:43.140
She isn't old news. She's going around pretending to be the president and saying awful things about her
00:37:47.520
country and truly embarrassing her country. She is a true embarrassment to the United States.
00:37:51.640
And so I'm not obsessed. I didn't think about Hillary Clinton until she went on television and
00:37:57.640
started saying awful things about America again. If you go into the woods and hide Hillary in
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Chappaqua, let's make a pact. If you stop embarrassing your country, we'll stop laughing
00:38:06.740
at little things when you make a fool of yourself in foreign countries. How's that work? That's my deal
00:38:11.300
that I'm offering to my cousin Hillary. Okay. That's our show today. Make sure you get your mailbag
00:38:15.360
questions in. That is going to be Thursday. You got some other great, I just talked to a guest we're
00:38:20.200
going to bring on soon. He is a good one. There is, we got some good stuff coming up,
00:38:24.080
but I'm not going to ruin the surprise. Also, I'm going to be in New York for some speaking
00:38:27.880
engagements. Just booked my flight. I'll let you know some more information about that
00:38:31.480
as it becomes available. And alas, just a quick thank you to Charlotte Pence. She gave us the new
00:38:36.320
book, A View of the Vice President from Marlon Bundo, The Bunny Rabbit. So you can check that out.
00:38:41.900
Get that book on Amazon. It's very good. I've got it now as a permanent part of my set.
00:38:45.620
Okay. That's the show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. Come back tomorrow.
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