Ep. 1206 - Angry Libs Prepare To Jail President Trump
Summary
Is it a crime for President Trump to pay Stormy Daniels $130k to keep her quiet about an alleged affair that he had with her in 2006? Is this a crime? Is it even legal? And why is this even a thing?
Transcript
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You know, I've been thinking a lot lately about how lucky we are to live in the land of the free
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as opposed to an autocratic country like Russia or China. You see, in Putin's Russia,
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the press isn't free. Instead, it serves the interests of the regime on whose behalf it
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spreads lies and propaganda. Can you imagine? Even worse is communist China. In communist China,
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citizens are under constant surveillance. The government knows pretty much every single move
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they make, regardless of any nominal rights to privacy. In Russia and China, citizens don't have
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a practical right to free speech. Even if they have such a right in theory, if they ever contradict
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the prevailing orthodoxy of the regime, they can be censored and kicked out of the public square.
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In those kinds of countries, agents of the state even deny parents' right to raise their own
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children. Law enforcement persecutes people for their traditional religious beliefs.
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And most brazenly of all, evil autocrats like Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin jail their political
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opponents. Thank goodness we don't live in a country like that.
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Got a lot coming up to talk about. President Trump has just made a really interesting statement
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with gold today. Thank goodness we don't live in a country like, oh, look, what does this card say
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right here? It says President Trump might be arrested on Tuesday. Huh, that's weird.
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This, according to President Trump, though, it comes after an NBC report that prosecutors in
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New York are preparing to indict Trump. What are they going to indict him over?
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Is it Russia collusion? Is it Ukraine collusion? Is it his classified documents that Biden apparently
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had multiples of at his home? That didn't really matter. It was only when Trump had it, that was a
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bad thing. No, no, it's none of that. The libs in New York are looking to indict Trump over his hush
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money payment to Stormy Daniels back in 2016. They've gone through so many attempts to try to
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get Trump. They're now onto reruns. They're now going back to the originals. And so what's the issue
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here? Why is it a crime for Trump to pay Stormy Daniels? Well, he paid it through Michael Cohen,
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who is his former attorney, who sang like a songbird and completely turned on Trump,
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broke under pressure, and got a slightly more lenient treatment apparently by the liberals
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than he otherwise would have gotten. He says that he made the payment on Trump's behalf
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to Stormy Daniels to keep her quiet about an alleged 2006 affair that they had.
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Then Cohen pleaded guilty to related charges and served time in prison. Why is it a crime? Because
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the payment was listed as a legal expense and the company cited a retainer agreement with Cohen.
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But this particular retainer apparently did not exist. Even though Cohen was Trump's lawyer for a
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long time, there was no legal retainer in this particular incident. And so Trump may have committed
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a misdemeanor of falsifying business records. A report said that Trump personally signed several
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checks to Cohen while he was serving as president. Now, a misdemeanor, why are you going to arrest the
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former president and the current chief rival to the sitting president over a misdemeanor? Well,
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they can elevate it to a felony if they can prove that Trump's, quote, intent to defraud
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included an intent to commit or conceal a second crime. And the libs are arguing that the second
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crime is that the $130,000 hush money payment to Stormy Daniels was actually an improper political
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contribution because he was making the payment to keep her quiet during the campaign. So it's as though
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it were an improper donation to the campaign, which again is bogus. Pretty much every campaign
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finance matter is bogus because money is fungible. So if you give X amount of money to a candidate's
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campaign committee, that can land you in prison. But if you give 10 times that amount of money to
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a super PAC, that's totally fine. If one group gives money, it's okay. If an individual or a
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different group gives money, that can be a big problem. So it's all basically bogus. But the reason
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this is especially bogus is that Trump is the candidate. And candidates can give as much money
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to their campaigns as they want. So even if the prosecutors in New York argue that this was an
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improper donation to the campaign, maybe it was done through a kind of improper channel. Maybe the
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paperwork was a little bit off, but it's still Donald Trump donating to his own campaign. It's so
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patently absurd. It's so obvious that the Democrats here just want to stop the people from having a chance
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to reelect Donald Trump. Because they're afraid that if Trump can appear on a ballot, they're afraid
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that if Trump can mount a real presidential campaign, that the people will vote for him.
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And so they're doing everything they can. They tried to disqualify him using the 14th Amendment.
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They tried to, they had multiple suits to try to keep him off the ballots in different states around
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the country. They have tried to impeach him multiple times. They try, now they're trying to lock him into
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prison. From, from which place he could still run for president, but obviously would hurt his campaign
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if he were stuck in a jail cell instead of holding rallies. It's so obvious that these guys fear Trump
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and want to do everything they can to prevent the people from having a choice. That this is the silver
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lining of this whole storm cloud. The silver lining is that I think we can finally dismiss once and for
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all the ridiculous piffle that the Democrats tell us about our sacred democracy. Our, Donald Trump and
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the Republicans are a threat to our sacred temples of democracy, our cherished norms. We don't act like
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this in America. We're better than this. No, you're not better than this. You're breaking all the norms.
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You are undermining our allegedly sacred democracy. You're jailing your political opponents like a
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two-bit dictator in a banana republic, which some of us conservatives have observed for a long time.
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So, okay, that's how they want to play? Fine. I do not want to hear it anymore about our sacred
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democracy or any of that other stuff. Don't want to hear it one little bit. What should the
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Republicans do in response? I think that a Republican governor or more precisely, I guess,
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a Republican attorney general should arrest a prominent criminal lib. There is no shortage of
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candidates, of prominent liberal politicos who have committed crimes. Look around the Clinton circles,
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look around the Biden circles, look at Clinton and Biden themselves. Plenty of big criminal libs out
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there who have completely gotten off the hook, and there are plenty of Republican governors and
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attorneys general out there. I think you would need a Republican governor as well as an attorney general
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because if the attorney general indicts a big prominent criminal lib and there's a Democrat governor,
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the Democrat governor will apply political pressure or eventually probably just pardon the criminal
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lib. So I think you need to have a Republican governor there as well. But let's do it. Let's
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indict a big criminal lib. Let's indict two of them. They are going after our guy. Let's go after five
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of their guys. There's no risk here. Some people push back against this suggestion. They say,
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well, we're better than them, Michael. Yeah, sure. I think we are better than them. I'm not suggesting
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we do anything illegal or unjust. I'm not saying we go after an innocent lib. I'm saying we should
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go after a criminal lib against whom the law has not been applied. The argument against doing that
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is that we want to preserve our norms and we don't want to live in a country where we throw the vanquished
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political opposition into orange jumpsuits. I agree. I don't want to live in that country. But
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the only reason for which we should be concerned about that norm is if the norm continues to exist.
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The libs are breaking that norm. That's not our fault. We have nothing to say. We're saying don't
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violate the norm. Don't start arresting the opposition leaders in our country. But if they're
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going to do that, then we've got to play the game. Otherwise, we're just surrendering to the people
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who are abusing our political system the most. So, OK, they want to indict Trump. Fine. I want to see
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every Republican governor and attorney general with the political capital, with the power to do so,
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to indict prominent criminal libs. And I think you should indict multiple and you should throw the
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book at them and you should find every stupid little fake misdemeanor charge and you should
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trump it up as high as you possibly can. OK, the reason that you have to do this, the reason this
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would be good for our political order is because it would show the libs that there are consequences to
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their actions. It would discourage further predations on our political order. I remember
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the late great historian, Donald Kagan, professor of mining college, historian of war and specifically
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of ancient Greece and the Peloponnesian War. And when he would get down to these margin calls,
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why did Pericles do this? Why did this statesman do that? He would say, my inclination as to what
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motivated this statesman in this action or in this strategy comes from one place and it's the
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Brooklyn schoolyard. And because Donald Kagan grew up in Brooklyn, is kind of a tough New York kid,
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became a very distinguished professor. He said the Brooklyn schoolyard, the rules hold the same,
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the rules of war, the rules of politics. They're the exact same as when you walk up to a bully
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in the playground. OK, and so if we do not push back, if we just roll over and allow the libs
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to start arresting the leader of the opposition in the United States, we say, well, we're preserving the
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norms. You're not preserving any norm. You're helping the liberals to establish a new norm,
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which is that the conservatives never have a shot to win. And if conservatives ever stand up against
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the regime in any significant way, they will be wearing an orange jumpsuit. Now, the silver lining
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for Trump here is they restored his YouTube account. That's the, I just imagine Trump having a meeting
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with the regime, Trump having a meeting with the ruling class. They say, hey, Donald,
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hey, opposition party, we've got good news and bad news. And what's the good news? Well,
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the good news is we're going to let you broadcast on YouTube again. So we're going to let you back
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into the public square. You can post videos to YouTube. Oh, great. What's the bad news? You can
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do it from prison. There's trade-offs in life. And the timing is so weird. They announced this
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just as the rumors start flying that they're going to arrest Trump. It seems coordinated.
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It seems, and so much of our ruling class seems coordinated. The media coordinates with the
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government. Big tech coordinates with the deep state. We know that. They have regular meetings
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with the FBI. And the FBI says, don't post this story. It's going to be damaging to Joe Biden.
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Don't allow people even to privately message this story about Hunter Biden's laptop. Okay,
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sounds good. And there's all this coordination that goes on. And now the very same day, hey,
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we're going to let Trump back on YouTube. Isn't that fair? By the way, we're going to arrest him.
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Okay. Meanwhile, what are the Democrats doing? Well, we just got new information from a House
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Oversight Committee that another Biden has been taking money from communist China. According to
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House Oversight, quote, over the course of several years, members of the Biden family and their
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companies received over $1.3 million in payments from accounts related to their associate, Rob Walker.
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Most of this money came as a result of a wire from a Chinese energy company and went not only to Hunter
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and James Biden, James is Joe Biden's brother, but also to Hallie Biden. Hallie Biden, if I'm getting
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my Biden women straight, is Bo Biden's widow and then the paramour of Hunter Biden after that,
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as well as an unknown Biden. Who's the unknown Biden? One can only speculate.
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The corruption is barely hidden. It's not even hidden. When Hunter Biden was on the take and he
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was being paid 50 grand a month or thereabouts by a Ukrainian state energy company, Burisma.
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That was pretty brazen corruption. Hunter Biden doesn't know anything about Ukraine. Hunter Biden
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doesn't know anything about the energy industry. Hunter Biden wasn't providing any services to Burisma
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other than giving access to the vice president of the United States, who's now the president of the
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United States, who was Biden's, I'm sorry, who was Obama's point person on Ukraine. I sometimes say
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oh, Biden, because it seems to be the same cabal of people. That was brazen, transparent corruption.
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Now we find out the Bidens have been on the take from communist China. They haven't even really been
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masking it and washing the money through different people. The wire came from a Chinese energy company.
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So the wire came with direct fingerprints of the Chinese communist party on it.
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Are any of the Bidens looking at any consequences for this? No. No. If the Bidens had used their own
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money to pay some alleged hush payment to a porn star, then they'd have the book thrown at them.
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But if they're taking corrupt money from communist China to sell American influence overseas,
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not really disclose this money, it's just coming out now. Oh, that's totally fine. Barely hidden.
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Two tracks of justice. And it's the squish conservatives who are the ones saying, well,
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we can't violate our norms. Maybe we should just let them arrest the leader of the opposition just
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this way because we don't like, he's very mean and sends mean tweets back when he was allowed to
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have a Twitter account. And so let's just move on. Can we just move on, please, to preserve the norms in
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our sacred democracy? Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think we can do that.
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Now, some people recognize that this is a pivotal moment in American history. This has never happened
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before. We have never arrested the former president. And more importantly than him being a former
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president, the current chief rival, the current biggest threat to the sitting president could be
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arrested. Some people recognize this might be a real turning point in history, including people who are
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also running for president, including people like my friend, Vivek Ramaswamy, who had this to say.
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This morning, we learned that it is likely that the New York Manhattan district attorney
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is likely to indict a former president of the United States who is running for office. Now, I want to be
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very clear. I am in a presidential primary running against that individual, Donald Trump. But what I'm
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about to say has nothing to do with Donald Trump and everything to do with the integrity of an election
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and the integrity of a self-governing democracy. So I don't care whether you root for Trump or whether
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you don't. If you root for the integrity of our constitutional republic, then you need to be on
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the side of being really clear. We cannot have politically empowered prosecutors eliminating the
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opposition of a ruling party using arrest power. It is a sad day in America.
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Yeah. So Vivek goes on and he calls on the other candidates in the race and the other presumed
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candidates in the race, people like Ron DeSantis, to condemn this. As these rumors are flying, as
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these leaks come out, as NBC is reporting, yeah, Trump is looking like he'll be arrested. Before it
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happens, because once it happens, it's too late. Before it happens, Vivek is saying, these candidates
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need to condemn this and make it clear we will not go along with it. Even though the other candidates
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in the Republican primary would benefit if Trump is arrested, they would probably benefit. Trump would
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get a big PR boost by being arrested. So in that way, it might help his campaign for re-election.
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But let's not fool ourselves. It would be very hard to run a presidential campaign from prison.
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Okay? We've seen this once before in American history. And that was the socialist candidate back
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in 1912, I think it was. And he got 8%, but 8% is not going to win you a race. So
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it, or 1912 or 1920, it might have been 1920. I'll look it up afterward. Regardless,
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people don't win elections from prison. It would make it hard for Trump to raise money.
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Obviously, he wouldn't be out on the campaign trail. And I agree with Vivek's point. This is a
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turning point. We need a unified front. I see why other candidates, especially Ron DeSantis,
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who Trump has just been pummeling recently. He's been filing complaints, ethics complaints against
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DeSantis. So I get why DeSantis wouldn't want to do it. But I think even just optically, even from
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the standpoint of self-interest, all of the other candidates should come out and condemn this right
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now. Because if a candidate is seen as benefiting from the blobs, unjust persecution of Trump,
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it is not going to make any primary voters more likely to vote for that candidate.
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I just, it just looks so bad. It makes the other candidates look like they are in cahoots with the
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deep state and the blob and the crooked libs who are arresting Trump. And so just even from the
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standpoint of pure self-interest, I think it would behoove the other candidates in the race,
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anyone who's considering running. Nikki Haley is obviously in the race already. Tim Scott looks
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like he wants to run. Ron DeSantis obviously looks like he wants to run. Pompeo looks like he wants
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to run. There are a lot of other people. I think it would behoove them. Get out ahead of this. If you
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My favorite comment on Friday is from UpAllNightReviews869, who says,
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every time I drive past a car lot and see one of those inflatable air dancers, I hear Michael crying
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out, January 6th. I haven't thought of that before, but you're right. That is, that is,
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and it's not just me crying out January 6th. It is me channeling all of the libs who have told us now
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for years that their chief priority is the preservation of our sacred democratic norms,
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our principles, the importance. It doesn't matter who wins the elections, it's the importance of our
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sacred temples of democracy. Oh, we can arrest Trump? Yeah, throw him in the paddy wagon.
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Send him to Gitmo. Let's do it, baby. On what? I don't know, who cares? You're gonna die to ham
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sandwich. Find something. You show me the criminal, I'll find you a crime. Throw that guy in jail so that
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we can more easily preserve our sacred democracy. Yeah, okay. I'm not really buying that. So anyway,
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what is Trump doing right now before he gets arrested? Trump is calling for, among other
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things, the immediate end to the war in Ukraine. Here's his argument. We have never been closer
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to World War III than we are today under Joe Biden. A global conflict.
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So there's one exception to what Trump is saying. He says, we've never been closer to World War III than
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we are today. The exception to that would probably be the Cuban Missile Crisis, where you had a U.S.
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blockade, you had Soviet weapons into Cuba, potentially could kick off a nuclear war.
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That might be the exception. But that exception, which Trump is not acknowledging here, I think
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actually sheds light on the rest of Trump's proposition on how to deescalate in Ukraine.
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Between nuclear armed powers would mean death and destruction on a scale unmatched in human history.
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It would be nuclear Armageddon. Nothing is more important than avoiding that nightmare.
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We will avoid it, but we need new leadership. Every day this proxy battle in Ukraine continues.
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We risk global war. We must be absolutely clear that our objective is to immediately
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have a total secession of hostilities. All shooting has to stop.
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This is a redefinition of the goal in Ukraine. Joe Biden doesn't seem to have a goal. So I guess
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rather than a redefinition, you could say it's a definition. Trump is saying the United States'
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interest in Ukraine is to stop the war. The Biden administration and the blob, inasmuch as they
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have an objective in Ukraine, it is to keep it going, to not give Russia an inch, to drag this out until
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Ukraine is in the European Union, until Ukraine is in NATO, perhaps. The administration's goals
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only seem to escalate the war. Trump is saying my objective here is to stop the war.
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This is the central issue. We need peace without delay. In addition, there must also be a complete
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commitment to dismantling the entire globalist neocon establishment that is perpetually dragging us
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into endless wars, pretending to fight for freedom and democracy abroad, while they turn us into a
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third world country and a third world dictatorship right here at home.
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Here we go. Real key here. Trump is saying this neocon establishment, the war machine, the military
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industrial complex, whatever you want to call it, they are constantly pushing for more and more war.
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In their defense, I'll take their side for a second. The argument for that more and more war is that
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the United States is the global hegemon. We do run a global empire. And to paraphrase Pericles,
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maybe it wasn't wise to amass that global empire, but it would be more dangerous to let it go than it
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would be to maintain it. So we really are the world police. We get a lot of benefits from being the
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largest empire and most powerful empire on earth. And so we've got to maintain that empire. Okay,
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fair enough argument, even somewhat persuasive. But then Trump points out the flaw in that argument.
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He says, the problem with that is we say we're spreading democracy overseas. We say we're defending
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freedom and democracy, but what's happening? All the while we're doing that, we're eroding freedom
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and democracy at home. And of course that is the case. We've greatly undermined democracy.
00:26:15.200
I mean, you see this on the most important social questions of the day. You saw this on the issue
00:26:20.820
of abortion, at least until last year. But from Roe v. Wade until last year, some handful of robed
00:26:27.200
lawyers on the Supreme Court took the question of abortion away from the people, took that out of
00:26:31.980
democracy. The definition of marriage, when the definition of marriage had come up on ballots,
00:26:36.360
even in liberal California, it had been shot down, the suggestion that we ought to radically
00:26:40.800
redefine marriage to take away sexual difference. So what happened? A robed romantic poet on the
00:26:45.820
Supreme Court by the name of Anthony Kennedy decided to wax philosophic and poetic and radically
00:26:51.920
redefine marriage from the bench. Whatever you think about gay marriage, quote unquote, that obviously
00:26:57.720
is a diminishment of democracy. On and on and on, we're seeing less and less democratic control.
00:27:08.320
Even over our public square. In a self-governing republic, speech is politics, politics is speech.
00:27:16.180
So you think the people ought to have some say over who gets to say what and where, but that's not the
00:27:20.640
case. Because the blob has outsourced the censorship and policing of speech to a handful of billionaire
00:27:26.560
oligarchs in Silicon Valley. They're not accountable to the democracy in any way. If you suggest,
00:27:33.760
hey, maybe the vaccines aren't as great as people told us. Hey, maybe COVID's not as dangerous as
00:27:37.440
people told us. Hey, maybe there were some shenanigans in the 2020 election. You could
00:27:41.040
be nuked from outer space. You wouldn't have any ability to appeal that in the public square
00:27:47.200
because Google, Facebook, and Twitter control 90% of the flow of information around our republic.
00:27:52.840
So you're seeing democracy ebb at home. You're seeing freedom ebb at home. We're not even allowed
00:27:57.600
to decide who gets to come into the country anymore because we don't have borders for any practical
00:28:01.880
purposes. Meanwhile, we say we're spreading democracy and freedom and nation building abroad.
00:28:07.800
And Trump is saying, the more we focus on that and the more we insist upon that as an imperial
00:28:12.560
objective, the less say we can give people and we can afford to give people in our own country.
00:28:18.020
And so at the same time, paradoxically, democracy and freedom diminish at home. And Trump says,
00:28:23.140
we got to end that. We got to end that so that we can build up our nation here at home. And it's a
00:28:26.840
strong case. He says, we're closer than we've been to World War III. The one exception shows you
00:28:33.620
Trump's thinking here because what the neocons and the war hawks and the empire builders are arguing
00:28:42.140
is that if we look weak right now, that's going to invite more aggression from Putin. That's going
00:28:47.700
to invite more aggression from Xi Jinping. That's going to invite more aggression. The moment we pulled
00:28:51.620
out of Afghanistan in that disastrous way, it invited Putin, it invited Xi. I don't deny that.
00:28:56.760
But that doesn't mean that the only option is World War III. Think about what happened in the
00:29:01.420
Cuban Missile Crisis. The official storyline is Kennedy stood firm and he stared down the Soviets
00:29:08.460
and then they pulled their missiles out of Cuba. That was only half the story. The other half of
00:29:12.660
the story is Kennedy agreed to pull his missiles out of Turkey, which was one of the provocations that
00:29:19.600
led to the Cuban Missile Crisis in the first place. So the US was allowed to save face, was allowed to
00:29:24.520
look strong, but we did make certain concessions. And the same is going to have to happen in Ukraine
00:29:28.600
if you want to bring that conflict to a close without escalating to the point of potentially
00:29:32.960
World War III with a nuclear reform or superpower. That's what's going to have to happen.
00:29:38.620
Whose foreign policy has been more realistic? Whose foreign policy has been more successful?
00:29:43.680
In my lifetime, the most successful foreign policy by far has been Trump.
00:29:49.200
George H.W. Bush can make a play for it a little bit. But when you look at the years after and what
00:29:58.260
happened in Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East, I think Trump takes the cake. Why? Because Trump is
00:30:06.180
unpredictable. So you don't know. One day he's talking like the doveiest dove. He never wants
00:30:10.580
to use the military ever. The next day he's dropping the mother of all bombs. The one day he's saying,
00:30:15.220
I'm not going to start wars. I'm going to bring peace to the Middle East. The next day he's killing
00:30:18.220
Iran's top general. Completely unpredictable. And unpredictability is really, really important
00:30:23.720
here. Because if you're Vladimir Putin, if you're Xi Jinping, you will, Putin obviously wouldn't have
00:30:28.600
invaded Ukraine under Trump. He didn't. Trump is the only president on whose watch Vladimir Putin has
00:30:33.720
not invaded a sovereign country in over 20 years. George W. Bush, Putin invades Georgia. Obama,
00:30:42.000
Putin invades Crimea. Trump, Putin just kind of chills. Biden, Putin invades further into Ukraine.
00:30:49.880
Why? Because reportedly Trump said, hey, Putin, if you invade Ukraine, I'll hit Moscow. And if you're
00:30:58.120
Putin, you're thinking this is almost certainly a bluff. But there's like a 5% chance that it's not
00:31:05.160
a bluff because Trump is crazy. And he calls nuclear dictators in North Korea short and fat. And when they
00:31:11.340
threaten nuclear war, Trump says, my button's bigger and my button works. And this madman might
00:31:15.700
actually do it. You just don't know. You don't know. 95% chance it's fine. 5% chance you can't
00:31:21.720
take that risk. You can't take that risk. It's a foreign policy alternative. We haven't seen this
00:31:29.600
from basically anyone else in our whole lifetime. And there's a lot of wisdom in it as far as I'm
00:31:36.460
concerned. Speaking of conflicts at home that we're neglecting while we engage in empire,
00:31:42.780
Layla Jane is an 18-year-old detransitioner. She's a girl who was pushed into transition,
00:31:50.840
all these horrible mutilations and chemical injections when she was a little kid. Now she's
00:31:57.480
18. And she says she greatly regrets it. And she's suing her doctors. Here's her story.
00:32:02.660
I really want to say that I don't think I- Put an applause right there. You can hear it right
00:32:07.940
away. The people who tell you there are no long-term consequences. It's all totally reversible. If a
00:32:14.180
child starts to transition and then stops transitioning, it's no big deal. This girl's
00:32:19.920
voice is quite deep and it's going to be deep for the rest of her life. And there's nothing to change
00:32:25.580
about that. This girl has aspects now in her body which are quite masculine because she was pushed
00:32:33.120
into this as a kid. And there's no reversal for that. And someone has to be held accountable, as
00:32:37.920
she says. I should have been allowed to change my sex before I could legally consent to have sex.
00:32:44.620
Overall, I don't think I'm better off for the experience. And I think transition just
00:32:50.560
completely added fuel to the fire that was my pre-existing conditions.
00:32:55.700
Her pre-existing conditions. She's talking about psychological conditions. Conditions that I am
00:33:01.400
not even allowed to mention on certain big tech platforms. I am not even allowed to suggest
00:33:07.620
that transgender identity has significant, let's say, overlap with other conditions, let's say.
00:33:17.860
Am I allowed to say that? Can I say that one, censors?
00:33:21.540
Layla's saying that. She's saying, this happened to me and I wasn't treated for other
00:33:24.640
conditions I had. I was treated as though I were really a boy and now I deeply regret it. They
00:33:31.460
did this to me before I was even legally allowed to consent to sex. Her lawyer is our friend Harmeet
00:33:37.820
Dillon. Here's what Harmeet says. She was not given the mental health treatment necessary and it was not
00:33:43.680
disclosed to her family or to her that, for example, teenage transitioners
00:33:49.640
desist from transition at a 80 to 90 percent rate. That the majority of people who go through
00:33:55.080
this regret it later on. That it wasn't a solution for her mental health problems. That many girls,
00:34:01.620
in fact, most girls probably struggle with puberty. And so it is our position legally as a matter of law
00:34:07.760
that informed consent was missing here. Because is it impossible for a child to give informed consent?
00:34:15.000
And it is impossible for parents who are not fully informed with a child that was not properly
00:34:20.160
treated to also give that consent. And Laura, an important point here is that, you know, you've had
00:34:25.300
me on with our client, Chloe Cole, as well. And Kaiser doctors use the line on her and her parents,
00:34:32.120
would you rather have a live son or a dead daughter? The exact same line was used in this case. So it appears to
00:34:39.040
be a script that certain Kaiser doctors and psychiatrists are using on these victims.
00:34:46.760
This kind of butchery is totally irresponsible at the levels of the parents, yes. At the levels of
00:34:54.440
the school, yes. But at the level of the doctors, okay? The doctors need, someone needs to be held
00:35:01.640
responsible. And what you're going to hear from the squishes is, well, the doctors were just doing
00:35:06.240
their jobs. Well, we shouldn't look, people should be free to choose whatever they want.
00:35:11.020
Well, Layla's point is, I can't be free to choose whatever I want when I'm 13. I'm below the age of
00:35:17.300
consent. Okay? And for these people whose job it is first to do no harm, to be making these life
00:35:26.600
altering decisions for me before I can consent, is deeply, deeply wrong. You know how it's wrong?
00:35:34.460
You know how we know it's wrong? Because the federal government, which now pretends that
00:35:39.260
transitioning at a very young age is wonderful and great and we support transiting the kids,
00:35:45.240
even the Biden official who is in charge of that, Richard Levine, who now calls himself Rachel,
00:35:50.840
admitted in a clip that's now cropped up that he is grateful that he did not transition until he was an
00:35:57.720
adult. I have no regrets because if I transitioned when I was young and I wouldn't have my children,
00:36:01.960
I can't imagine a life without my children. And so every experience led me to here. And so how could
00:36:11.920
I regret that? He makes a great point. Had he transitioned, that is to say, been castrated
00:36:17.700
when he was a little kid, he wouldn't have been able to have children. And for so many of these
00:36:22.060
detransitioners, one of the most painful aspects of the regret is that they've been sterilized,
00:36:26.860
that they've been castrated, that they won't be able to have kids. I look at my little kids.
00:36:31.760
This is the greatest joy that I can imagine in this world, at least. And you don't think about
00:36:39.740
that when you're 13, when you're 14, when you're going through puberty, when you're going through
00:36:43.540
an awkward phase, when you've got some anxiety about your body, when your friends are all wrapped
00:36:47.700
up in this bizarre fad of gender ideology and you're sucked into it. You don't think about those
00:36:52.960
things. But even just a few years later, even at 18, you can begin to think of that and say,
00:36:58.620
oh my goodness, what have I done? And the children should not be held responsible for what's been
00:37:02.220
done. The parents should, the schools should, the government should, and the doctors should.
00:37:05.620
And if we don't hold them responsible, if we don't insist upon consequences for bad behavior,
00:37:13.460
you're going to get more of that bad behavior. And that's unjust, certainly to the victims. It's
00:37:17.280
unjust even to the perpetrators. We'll get into why that's the case in just a second.
00:37:20.880
First though, it's easy enough to look around the world and even around our own circumstances and
00:37:26.620
get a little bit discouraged. That discouragement can often seem insurmountable. But did you know
00:37:31.160
the opposite is true? With a little encouragement, your whole worldview can change. That is what
00:37:35.720
Jordan Peterson talks about in his new five-part series, Vision and Destiny on Daily Wire Plus.
00:37:40.780
You're not all you could be, and there's pain in that. And there's the necessity for a certain
00:37:46.900
amount of judgment about that, and even a certain amount of exclusion, because what you are that is
00:37:51.640
insufficient, in some sense, should not be allowed to propagate further. But if it's conjoined with
00:37:58.080
encouragement, it's like, yeah, you're in a rough situation there, kiddo. But, you know, here's some
00:38:04.200
things about you that are virtuous and good, and they're pretty powerful, actually. And if you just
00:38:08.820
made those more manifest, you could dispense with a lot of this immaturity and misery, and you could
00:38:14.680
expand yourself out into life physically and psychologically, and you could start walking this
00:38:23.960
pathway that makes things better. And the thing is that as soon as you start walking the pathway that
00:38:29.680
makes things better, then things immediately become better, because your whole orientation changes. And, you
00:38:35.560
know, if you're in a bad place, but you're escaping, that's pretty positive. Even if it's a bad place, and you
00:38:41.240
might think, well, it's still bad, but it's better. It's like, well, that's a lot better than a bad
00:38:46.360
place that's getting worse. That's for sure, because that's hell. Hell is a bad place that's
00:38:51.080
getting worse. The fifth and final episode of Vision and Destiny is out now exclusively for
00:38:56.440
Daily Wire Plus members. Join at dailywire.com slash subscribe to watch Vision and Destiny.
00:39:04.420
We've got to arrest some criminal libs in response to the libs potentially arresting Donald Trump.
00:39:12.600
We've got to sue the doctors who transition, meaning mutilate and castrate the poor little kids
00:39:19.640
who they're leading into a gender ideology. We have to do that as a mercy, not only to the victims of
00:39:28.180
these predations, but also to the perpetrators. And people, they don't think about that very often.
00:39:35.160
But the enforcement of consequences is a mercy even to the criminals. You saw this, there was a video
00:39:41.660
that went completely viral on Friday, and it's of a criminal busting in, walking into a Metro PCS
00:39:49.520
store. And he's got a gun. He throws a bag down on the counter to the clerk.
00:39:56.660
Basically, the criminal is saying, fill up this bag with the money. I'm going to walk around here
00:40:01.440
brandishing my gun, threatening your life. And just fill it up, totally casual. And what happens?
00:40:07.640
The clerk is armed. The store had been robbed multiple times, but the clerk is armed. And so he
00:40:14.220
pulls out his weapon. He fires. He empties this magazine on this criminal. Criminal dies.
00:40:20.960
This video has been described on social media as the F around and find out video. It's very sad.
00:40:26.680
We're blurring the image of the criminal because I don't want to be airing snuff films on my show.
00:40:32.580
But this is a case in which the clerk was absolutely 100% right. Somebody walks in and threatens you
00:40:41.300
with a gun. That person has surrendered their expectation that they get to live. Okay, that is
00:40:47.720
a fight or flight kind of scenario. And that guy, who knows, maybe that guy's got a wife. Maybe that
00:40:53.140
guy's got kids. Maybe that guy just has a natural desire to protect his own life. And he pulls that
00:40:58.520
out and he says, I cannot allow you to threaten my life. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Criminal's
00:41:02.780
dead. For what? For what? For the prospect of making whatever pittance was in the cash register
00:41:10.900
at Metro PCS and stealing some cell phones? For what? This guy threw away his life.
00:41:16.720
Why was the guy impelled to rob the store? Because of his bad upbringing, because he violated
00:41:25.060
the moral order, because he made a bad choice. Also because other people had gotten away with it.
00:41:34.540
That's the most preventable part of the whole story. And it's the part for which the libs bear
00:41:42.740
a lot of responsibility. And it's the part for which the bleeding hearts bear a lot of responsibility.
00:41:47.520
And it's the part for which the criminal justice reformers bear a lot of responsibility.
00:41:50.560
If they would keep their traps shut and allow law enforcement to do its job and allow criminals
00:41:56.320
to face consequences, that guy would very possibly be alive today because he wouldn't have dared to
00:42:02.840
walk into that shop brandishing a gun, threatening a clerk if he thought he were going to face consequences
00:42:08.140
for that. It is, I remember at a very, very small scale, I remember I was giving a speech at the
00:42:16.680
University of Missouri, Kansas City some years ago. This was before the transgender topic became
00:42:23.380
the biggest topic in the whole country. And I was giving a speech called Men Are Not Women
00:42:26.840
and Other Uncomfortable Truths. And these maniacs at the speech, these leftist activists were screaming
00:42:34.820
like banshees, like hyenas. You couldn't hear a word. They were guffawing and jumping up and down
00:42:40.320
and really behaving like animals. And finally, though, they decided, okay, we're going to leave
00:42:44.500
because I just kept giving my speech. One person, I guess they had planned this out.
00:42:50.340
One person gets to the side a little bit behind the podium and opens up a fire door. And I guess
00:42:57.380
there had been another activist on the other side of the door waiting to come in and attack me. And
00:43:01.940
he wasn't attacking me with a gun. Well, it was a type of a gun. It was a squirt gun filled with some
00:43:06.020
kind of dubious fluids. We've never figured out exactly what was in the squirt gun. It was designed,
00:43:10.560
though, to seem like a chemical of some sort. And the guy comes in and he sprays me with the squirt
00:43:16.020
gun. And I just feel a little bit of this squirt gun. And by the time I squared up on him, so we're
00:43:21.160
talking about seconds, by the time I turn and square up on this guy, he is already down on the ground
00:43:26.640
because there was a cop behind him. And the cop eventually, because he was fighting the cop,
00:43:31.780
cop eventually tases him. And I look down at this guy's face. And I'm just watching this happen.
00:43:37.920
And the look on the guy's face, it was not one of anger. It was a little bit of pain for sure.
00:43:44.320
But the look that is seared into my memory is one of shock, surprise. He thought he was going to get
00:43:53.600
away with it. And he couldn't believe that there would be consequences for his actions. And I don't
00:44:01.560
want to sound like a big lib squish or anything, like a bleeding heart here, but I have some sympathy
00:44:06.180
for him. Because he had good reason to think he would get away with it. Because the school took
00:44:11.480
the side of the crazy leftist activists all the time. Because at events all around the country,
00:44:16.600
in recent years we've seen at Yale Law School, at Stanford Law School, the top two law schools in
00:44:21.280
the country, these students behaving in exactly the same crazy, unreasonable way. And they get away
00:44:27.340
with it and the administration takes their side. So this kid thought he would get away with it.
00:44:31.220
Happened to be the case that at our events, we don't let people get away with it. And so the guy
00:44:37.700
ended up in jail. It's kind of the way markets work. Markets work on reliability, stability.
00:44:51.300
Markets want to be able to predict what's going to happen. More than even they want a tax cut,
00:44:56.380
they want a tax hike, they want this regulation, they just want predictability. And we have a
00:45:02.200
country that is increasingly not predictable. And it's not predictable because we used to be a country
00:45:07.780
of law. And we are increasingly a country of men. We used to be a country that was ruled by the
00:45:14.220
Constitution, by law, lady justice blindly meeting out justice. Now we are increasingly a country of the
00:45:24.860
caprices of men, where if you're a liberal, you can commit all sorts of crimes, all sorts of
00:45:30.220
corruption, take money hand over fist from Ukraine, from communist China. You can commit and admit to
00:45:36.640
countless crimes on your computer, on video, in your own words, implicating your father who's the
00:45:44.200
president of the United States, you'll get away with it. But if the regime doesn't like you, they'll
00:45:49.080
find some bogus reason from seven years ago to throw you into an orange jumpsuit. And in that
00:45:56.720
kind of society, in a society where people think there are not going to be consequences for their
00:46:02.520
actions, the actions of the people in power and the reactions of the people who are out of power
00:46:08.020
are increasingly going to spin out of control. That's just how it works. Okay, today's Music Monday.
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