The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1210 - TikTok Is Turning The Freakin' Frogs Gay

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00:00:37.680 The CEO of TikTok showed up to Capitol Hill yesterday to persuade lawmakers not to ban the social media app,

00:00:45.300 and things did not go particularly well.

00:00:48.100 Do you disagree with FBI Director Wray and NSA Director Nekosone

00:00:52.500 when they said that the CCP could have the capability to manipulate data and send it to the United States?

00:00:59.600 Do you disagree with their statement?

00:01:01.360 Their statement says could.

00:01:03.600 So do you disagree with that?

00:01:05.640 No, I don't disagree with that.

00:01:06.820 Okay, so it is possible that the CCP, under the auspices of ByteDance,

00:01:12.600 which is your parent company, which you get paid from,

00:01:15.640 has the ability to manipulate content that is being shared with 130 million Americans, yes?

00:01:21.360 Congressman, I want to just want to make sure I'm understanding all these questions.

00:01:24.700 The TikTok CEO admitted that the Chinese Communist Party is able to manipulate the extremely addictive content 0.97

00:01:32.540 warping the minds of 130 million Americans every day.

00:01:35.820 China can spread highly targeted propaganda to half the country.

00:01:41.540 They can also spy on us, collecting countless data to use against us.

00:01:46.500 A big problem for our American government,

00:01:49.920 which prefers to spy on us and spread propaganda and warp our minds itself.

00:01:56.380 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:01:57.360 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:58.200 Welcome back to the show.

00:02:06.800 We will get to, in just a moment,

00:02:09.040 my absolute favorite moment from any legislative committee hearing in the entire history of politics.

00:02:16.460 It might be my favorite political moment that I've ever seen on video.

00:02:22.180 But before we get to that, we've got to get to TikTok.

00:02:24.380 Because everyone is reporting on the TikTok testimony as though it were just absolutely terrible, a total failure.

00:02:34.740 And it was always going to be a little bit awkward because the CCP does have a ton of access to TikTok

00:02:41.280 and can use TikTok to push propaganda to half of the country.

00:02:45.480 And when we say push propaganda and manipulate content and warp minds,

00:02:50.020 it's not exactly the same as when you're doom scrolling on TikTok.

00:02:53.600 The average user of TikTok uses the app for a few minutes a day.

00:02:59.020 The average user of Twitter, rather, uses it for a few minutes a day.

00:03:03.820 The average user of TikTok uses it for something like 56 minutes a day.

00:03:08.880 So it is highly, highly addictive.

00:03:10.800 You know, if you've ever been on it, it's like crack.

00:03:12.820 Just anywhere you look, it's another video with music and dancing and lights.

00:03:15.860 And it's just so totally engrossing.

00:03:18.500 So, yes, the CEO of TikTok had to admit, okay, the CCP has access here.

00:03:24.580 Yes, okay, I wouldn't call it spying, but yeah, we're kind of spying on you.

00:03:28.720 Okay, fine.

00:03:29.600 But then the COO of TikTok came in to do damage control.

00:03:35.840 That's Vanessa Papas, who said that she felt the whole hearing was rooted in xenophobia.

00:03:43.020 This is the key to the TikTok testimony that people don't seem to be picking up on.

00:03:50.900 The COO wrote,

00:03:52.140 We are committed to providing a safe, secure platform that fosters an inclusive space for our amazing, diverse communities to call home.

00:04:00.380 It's a shame today's conversation felt rooted in xenophobia.

00:04:05.340 Thank you to our employees who work tirelessly to protect our platform and community.

00:04:11.640 This wasn't just a big flop accident.

00:04:14.300 Oh, my gosh, what was TikTok thinking showing up to Capitol Hill?

00:04:18.080 Oh, no.

00:04:19.260 TikTok knew the questions that they were going to be asked.

00:04:22.440 TikTok knew that the answers were going to be a little bit awkward.

00:04:25.380 That was baked in.

00:04:26.620 But what TikTok has done, and I suspect this will be successful, is they've now made an effort to reframe the debate about banning TikTok.

00:04:36.540 The idea of banning TikTok, certainly from government devices, but from all American devices, was gaining a lot of steam throughout the country.

00:04:44.300 It's a very popular idea.

00:04:45.580 And what TikTok has done is come in now and say, hold on, if you want to ban this Chinese spy app, that sounds kind of xenophobic, doesn't it?

00:04:55.900 You wouldn't want me to call you a racist, would you?

00:04:59.900 And that won't persuade serious Republicans with real national security concerns.

00:05:06.880 But that might persuade a lot of Democrats.

00:05:09.040 That might even persuade people in the middle, because the worst thing to be called in America is racist.

00:05:13.680 But what about the claim?

00:05:14.940 The claim that this is xenophobic.

00:05:18.940 Yeah, I guess so.

00:05:20.400 It's not phobic because the fear is not irrational.

00:05:23.760 To have a fear of the Chinese Communist Party spying on you and pushing propaganda to half your country, that's not irrational. 0.63

00:05:30.880 It's a very rational fear.

00:05:32.900 But yes, the fear comes from the fact that these are foreigners doing it. 1.00

00:05:39.220 So if that's what xenophobia means today, then call us xenophobic, I guess.

00:05:43.700 That is a fear.

00:05:45.300 I pointed out at the top that the reason that Facebook and Twitter and YouTube and Google are so concerned about TikTok is not because of privacy concerns.

00:05:55.000 It's because of competition.

00:05:56.380 They don't want to have to compete for eyeballs. 1.00

00:05:58.080 The reason the government is so concerned about the CCP spying on us is our own government wants to spy on us.

00:06:03.000 Our own government wants to push propaganda to us.

00:06:05.760 And that's true.

00:06:07.300 I don't want the kind of liberal propaganda that comes at me from the government.

00:06:11.180 I don't want the kind of mass spying on me that we see from the United States government.

00:06:15.480 But there actually is a difference.

00:06:18.400 One's own government has much more of a right to do these kinds of things than a foreign government.

00:06:24.160 So we should treat these things differently, and we should treat them differently precisely because one of them is foreign, the others are domestic.

00:06:32.240 All of that said, they can ban TikTok, they can not ban TikTok.

00:06:35.620 I don't really care.

00:06:36.600 I'm more interested now in reining in Facebook, Twitter.

00:06:42.480 I guess we already have Elon there, so we'll put Twitter aside for a second.

00:06:46.100 YouTube, Google, all the rest of it.

00:06:50.380 Those are the people spreading propaganda and spying on us that I'm more concerned with at the moment.

00:06:56.620 But there's nothing wrong in principle with treating TikTok differently.

00:07:00.800 These are different powers with different cultures.

00:07:03.460 We're now told in the United States that we have got to respect other cultures, never criticize other cultures.

00:07:13.180 We Americans, we are the source of all the evil in the world, and so we need to be much more restrained.

00:07:21.360 How dare you ever go into any of these avatar-like civilizations that are living in peace and harmony with nature?

00:07:30.120 And then we go in with our white culture and our evil white capitalism or whatever, and we mess up the countries. 0.74

00:07:38.460 So that has been the push, largely from the left, to say stop interfering in other places around the world.

00:07:43.460 You have no right to do it.

00:07:45.480 One place that you see this especially would be colonialism in Africa.

00:07:50.440 Well, there's a new law that just passed in Uganda that confounds some of this liberal argument.

00:07:55.700 We're going to talk about it.

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00:09:03.380 For how many decades now have we heard, we need to end colonialism in Africa.

00:09:10.600 We need to end neocolonialism in Africa. 0.98

00:09:13.800 Colonialism was the worst thing that ever happened, and we need to let the African nations govern themselves.

00:09:21.800 Okay, so we've started doing that now.

00:09:24.100 We're letting the African nations govern themselves.

00:09:26.520 Are the liberals happy about that?

00:09:28.060 I don't think so.

00:09:28.820 There's a headline here from The Guardian.

00:09:30.580 Ugandan MPs pass bill imposing death penalty for homosexuality. 0.91

00:09:34.800 Homosexuality. 0.96

00:09:37.740 That's African countries governing themselves.

00:09:40.960 And it's kind of funny that it's the liberals who are the ones who say,

00:09:45.940 this is outrageous.

00:09:47.340 America is so terrible. 0.99

00:09:48.860 Stop spreading your evil ideas. 0.99

00:09:50.800 Please, Ugandans, live as you like. 1.00

00:09:54.980 Very good. 1.00

00:09:55.560 We are going to kill all of the homosexuals. 1.00

00:09:58.680 Not like that. 1.00

00:10:00.840 Did you, what?

00:10:02.060 It's like that wonderful video from the African newscast. 1.00

00:10:06.160 You are gay. 1.00

00:10:07.040 Why are you gay? 0.99

00:10:08.160 The liberals don't, they can't understand that. 0.88

00:10:10.720 Because in their view, every single culture is liberal.

00:10:15.180 And liberal in a 2023 kind of liberal way.

00:10:19.180 All the cultures are just the same. 1.00

00:10:20.740 The only difference is some people have more money and some people have less money.

00:10:24.100 And some people get a little more sunshine.

00:10:25.640 Some people get a little more fog.

00:10:27.020 But we all basically agree on everything.

00:10:29.200 That's not true.

00:10:30.240 So the liberals, paradoxically, are the most inclined to impose their values on the world.

00:10:37.760 But one of those values is not imposing your values on the world.

00:10:40.440 So how does one make sense of that?

00:10:42.620 The way they're going to make sense of that is they're probably going to go in and reimpose their values.

00:10:48.980 Now, as far as I'm concerned, the death penalty is a little harsh.

00:10:54.020 Sure, I'm all for standards and sort of maintaining certain behaviors in the public square.

00:10:59.400 But death penalty seems a little strong.

00:11:01.240 But if Uganda is going to have self-determination, this is what they're going to do. 0.88

00:11:07.000 And there are certain areas where African nations are doing this, where I think a lot of American conservatives would say,

00:11:14.580 Hey, African nations, can you come run for the legislature over here?

00:11:17.760 The libs are constantly trying to push abortion on Africa. 0.99

00:11:20.060 Africa says we don't want abortion. 0.95

00:11:21.880 The libs are constantly trying to push contraception on Africa. 0.99

00:11:25.160 The Africans are saying we don't want contraception. 1.00

00:11:27.560 We don't want that imposition. 0.66

00:11:31.340 That's the imposition of your culture, Westerners. 1.00

00:11:34.140 You think the imposition of your culture is, I don't know, capitalism and racism and this is.

00:11:41.780 No, every country on earth is extremely racist other than the West.

00:11:46.320 Okay, you're not exporting racism or anything like that.

00:11:49.580 What you're exporting is the LGBT flag and condoms and abortion and all the trappings of liberalism. 0.94

00:12:00.260 It's the new kind of colonialism.

00:12:01.640 When the libs protest colonialism, you better bring those protest signs and take a look in the mirror.

00:12:07.400 Speaking of cultural differences, a Michigan college has just announced a number of new graduation ceremonies.

00:12:14.680 This is Grand Valley State University.

00:12:17.380 The Multicultural Affairs Office over at Grand Valley State has now announced there will be graduation ceremonies or celebrations for black students.

00:12:27.820 There's the black graduation.

00:12:29.280 Asian students, Asian students, Latinx students, talk about colonialism and cultural overriding of norms and tradition. 0.85

00:12:42.800 Latinx students, Native American students, LGBTQIA plus students.

00:12:50.140 There's one group of students I can't, there's actually a couple that I can't quite find on this list.

00:12:54.480 Where is the, where's the white student graduation?

00:12:59.320 The Multicultural Affairs Office has said that won't exist.

00:13:03.040 And there's no, where's the, I don't know, the Christian or let's say just broadly religious student graduation,

00:13:11.460 maybe to counter the more novel sexual revolution graduation. 0.97

00:13:17.660 No, none of that's there.

00:13:18.720 And the response of many conservatives is, this is not going to go on forever.

00:13:25.780 At a certain point, white people are going to get extremely angry about this and they're going to push back and say,

00:13:31.060 no, you can't just, you can't make us second class citizens.

00:13:34.280 We're not going to tolerate that.

00:13:35.700 But I'm not, I'm actually not totally convinced.

00:13:38.060 I think the libs probably will get away with it, at least for a very long time. 0.99

00:13:41.540 And they'll do that because white people don't have a racial consciousness.

00:13:45.840 And it's one of the delightful things about white people is we just don't think about race that much. 0.54

00:13:50.000 We think that race is a relatively unimportant aspect of our identity.

00:13:55.500 We think about religion a lot.

00:13:57.780 We think about culture a lot.

00:13:59.500 We think about nation.

00:14:01.680 We think about affinity to different, I don't know, hobbies and vocations.

00:14:07.640 We don't, race is really, really low on the list.

00:14:09.920 But for every other racial group in the world, it's much higher.

00:14:14.180 According to Pew, white racial consciousness is 15%.

00:14:17.460 For Asians, Hispanics and blacks, it's over 50% for all of them.

00:14:22.920 And for black people, it's over 70%.

00:14:24.700 So as long as that persists, then you're going to get,

00:14:28.120 you're going to get more of these sorts of graduation ceremonies.

00:14:32.740 Though there is a kind of subtle, there is a subtly colonial or racist undertone to this whole thing, 0.92

00:14:43.320 which is, oh, there's the Latino graduation, there's the gay graduation, there's the black graduation. 0.86

00:14:49.640 But the main graduation, that's the white graduation. 0.95

00:14:52.280 I don't think the Libs are totally conscious of it, but it's the same accident of their invectives against colonialism and racism that you see in their affairs in Africa.

00:15:06.540 Speaking of wokeness at schools, there is some good news out of higher education.

00:15:12.200 You remember a week or two ago, Stanford Law had that horrific display where a judge, the Fifth Circuit Judge Kyle Duncan, came to town and was giving a lecture.

00:15:21.720 And these lunatic students, these students who obviously should never have been admitted, certainly should be expelled, certainly should never become lawyers, 0.83

00:15:28.300 they come out, they start screaming obscenities, weird sexual obscenities, 0.98

00:15:32.380 all sorts of four-letter words at this guy to shut him up from speaking at a Federalist Society event.

00:15:36.440 So, at that point, a dean of diversity and inclusion walks in, takes the side of the screaming banshee students, starts yelling at the judge,

00:15:47.820 and I said at the time, if the students aren't expelled and the dean isn't fired, then we're just seeing empty talk.

00:15:58.260 Okay, yes, Stanford apologizes, but talk is cheap.

00:16:01.320 Okay, show me some action.

00:16:03.060 Well, we're starting to see some action.

00:16:04.080 So, the dean of Stanford Law School, Jenny Martinez, doubled down on her support of free speech in a memo on Wednesday. 0.85

00:16:11.320 And then the diversity dean, Tyrion Steinbach, joined the disruptors, and she has been placed on leave.

00:16:20.080 She's been placed on leave.

00:16:21.340 She now, just moments ago, published an op-ed in which she came out against free speech.

00:16:29.540 She said that her job was to de-escalate the situation, not to defend Stanford's free speech policy.

00:16:35.920 First of all, your job is to enforce the rules and standards of the university, broadly.

00:16:42.480 You're an administrator at the university.

00:16:44.780 That should be one of your jobs.

00:16:47.320 Now, she's right in as much as her role as dean of diversity is to undermine everything the university stands for.

00:16:55.400 That's what these administrators do. 0.82

00:16:57.500 Their job is to stir the pot. 0.99

00:16:59.520 They are not doing their job if they're not constantly stirring the pot, undermining the rules of the university, undermining the pursuit of truth, undermining academic standards, and ginning up racial grievance about nonsense and imaginary problems.

00:17:15.180 So, that is her job.

00:17:16.140 She's been placed on leave now.

00:17:18.460 Being placed on leave is usually what happens when your employers are hoping that something will blow over.

00:17:25.720 So, we've got to go further.

00:17:27.880 I think she may have helped us go further here because by publishing this op-ed, she's basically daring Stanford to fire her. 0.97

00:17:34.140 And Stanford should fire her. 1.00

00:17:35.560 If Stanford doesn't fire her now, it's going to look so, so weak.

00:17:39.160 It's true that firing her is going to lead to all sorts of lawsuits. 0.61

00:17:41.440 It's okay.

00:17:41.760 There are plenty of good lawyers in Stanford Law, I've been told.

00:17:44.420 Go for it.

00:17:45.020 We've also got some great news, speaking of schools, on the education front.

00:17:51.560 We so rarely have good news on the education front.

00:17:53.800 But Florida has become the sixth state to enact school choice into law.

00:17:58.800 That's after West Virginia, Arizona, Iowa, Utah, Arkansas.

00:18:02.420 Now we've got Florida.

00:18:04.220 Why is Florida doing this?

00:18:05.720 One, because Ron DeSantis is a very good governor and he's obviously running for president.

00:18:09.640 So, he's going to score as many wins on that board as he can before he formally announces.

00:18:15.800 But what explains the push in all of these other states?

00:18:19.820 Why school choice has become more popular?

00:18:21.640 Republicans have been talking about school choice forever.

00:18:25.760 Why is it now?

00:18:26.660 The consensus wisdom is that the reason that school choice is winning now is because during lockdown, the kids came home and the parents were able to see what they were being taught in schools because the learning started to take place on laptops and the parents could be in the back of the room.

00:18:44.940 And the parents were so shocked at what the kids were being taught in schools that this renewed a push for school choice.

00:18:50.740 Maybe that plays a role into it.

00:18:52.340 I have a little bit of a different take, though.

00:18:54.860 I think that one of the big reasons that school choice is winning now is because parents recognized the possibility of alternatives in education.

00:19:07.780 I think humans are creatures of habit and we can get stuck in a rut and we can lose our imagination and think that if something is a certain way right now, it always has to be that way.

00:19:19.020 And so, yes, parents saw that their kids' education was even crazier than they previously thought, but they knew it was a little bit crazy.

00:19:28.460 The kids are coming home and talking about all this weird stuff, the transgender and the pan-sgender and the thank you, ma'am gender and all the rest of it. 0.94

00:19:34.080 So they know that. It's like that scene in The Sopranos when A.J. comes home and he's talking to Anthony and Carmela and he says,

00:19:42.520 America is a terrible place and Columbus was a genocidal maniac and then Tony starts screaming at him. 0.97

00:19:47.460 Parents know that their kids are being taught nonsense in schools. 0.99

00:19:50.720 They didn't know there was an alternative.

00:19:52.460 And then for two years, the kids were sitting at home on their computers.

00:19:58.120 Parents were exploring homeschool pods.

00:20:00.520 They were exploring certain private education methods and they were recognizing that the education was not particularly high quality.

00:20:09.660 And they said, wow, another option is available.

00:20:11.920 I think if people just see that there are choices, if people just see that they're not stuck with whatever the libs hand them,

00:20:20.780 that gives people a lot of encouragement.

00:20:23.460 Encourage is not only a virtue but the prerequisite for all of the other virtues.

00:20:26.960 Push ahead.

00:20:27.600 We've got six states here. That means that we've got 44 to go.

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00:21:50.340 My favorite comment yesterday actually does not come from the show.

00:21:54.040 My favorite comment comes from the Democratic Socialists of Purdue University.

00:22:00.780 So, you know, I'm in Indiana right now.

00:22:03.080 I was at Purdue last night.

00:22:04.080 There were hundreds and hundreds of protesters.

00:22:06.460 There were 500 or more protesters at a separate venue down the street where they were performing a drag show.

00:22:15.960 It may have been like 800 protesters or something.

00:22:18.180 But then even just right outside the lecture hall, there were at least 300 protesters last night screaming and shouting during my whole speech.

00:22:26.020 Luckily, the room was relatively soundproof, so we were able to get through it. 0.99

00:22:29.420 There were protesters holding up all these sorts of signs, kill yourself, Michael Knowles, kill the fascists. 1.00

00:22:35.400 Michael Knowles is a fascist. 1.00

00:22:37.100 Now, I did the math there, and you see, if I am a fascist, and they are holding up a sign that says kill all the fascists, that would appear to be a call to kill me. 0.99

00:22:46.400 I was no math major in college. 0.96

00:22:48.500 But, oh, I mean, screaming like banshees, obscenities, trying to block people, calling people all sorts of terrible names.

00:22:54.160 They obviously had tried to get the event shut down previously, and this is the quote that the young Democratic Socialists of America, Purdue, gave to the college fix.

00:23:05.040 They said, the presence of Michael Knowles on a university campus should cause embarrassment to anyone who values intellectual honesty and free inquiry.

00:23:15.660 I don't, is that, the presence of a conflicting viewpoint should embarrass anyone who wants free inquiry.

00:23:28.480 I don't, just as coherent as everything else they say, right down to the suggestion that a man can really be a woman.

00:23:40.820 I now have to get to, speaking of Florida, my absolute favorite clip I've ever seen from any legislative committee hearing.

00:23:53.660 I guess at this committee hearing, they were hearing objections and commentary from various constituents.

00:23:59.460 And so people put their names forward to be called on, and then this legislator would read the names that were put into the hat to be called on during the committee.

00:24:11.880 You might see where this is going.

00:24:16.020 It was like an episode of The Simpsons.

00:24:20.200 Florida Station of Counties, waves in opposition.

00:24:23.700 Pamela Birch-Fort, Florida State Conference of NAACP Branches, waves in opposition.

00:24:29.460 Anita Dick, is an opponent. 0.96

00:24:36.120 Waves in opposition.

00:24:38.160 Holden Hiscock, is also an opponent.

00:24:41.440 Waves in opposition.

00:24:44.340 Jimmy, only Jimmy.

00:24:47.180 I have nothing to say about that.

00:24:49.280 I just found it really, really funny.

00:24:51.620 And I was identifying as my eight-year-old self when I heard that, and I giggled quite a lot.

00:24:58.100 And I always love when there are moments of levity in politics.

00:25:00.920 It's not the legislator's fault.

00:25:02.160 He's just reading the names in front of him.

00:25:04.640 The Seymour Butts.

00:25:05.800 We got Seymour Butts here for commentary on the bill.

00:25:09.380 That's great.

00:25:10.520 That's great.

00:25:11.160 I really like that.

00:25:12.280 And everyone's so angry all the time in politics. 0.98

00:25:14.620 Let's kill this person and not this terror. 0.99

00:25:17.620 Think of the children. 0.99

00:25:18.420 And when you get a Holden McCock or whatever the name was, that's really great.

00:25:25.460 Most people are angry, like Jeffrey Marsh.

00:25:27.420 Jeffrey Marsh, who is this super, like the creepiest guy you ever saw out of the weirdest horror movie ever, promoter of transgenderism. 1.00

00:25:39.660 He, like, cast out of central casting to be the uber villain of transgenderism. 0.99

00:25:46.680 Jeffrey Marsh is angry with his critics.

00:25:51.700 It's okay to be angry.

00:25:53.640 Anger is often your body, your mind, your soul's way of telling you that you are worth something, that other people are worth something, that justice counts for something.

00:26:09.600 So, no, don't be afraid.

00:26:13.020 Don't be, um...

00:26:15.920 Don't be afraid to show your anger.

00:26:20.380 Don't be afraid.

00:26:21.400 It puts the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again.

00:26:28.500 Speaking of transgender representation in cinema and popular culture.

00:26:34.380 What of his point?

00:26:36.380 His point is anger is really good.

00:26:39.300 You should be angry.

00:26:40.420 Use that anger.

00:26:41.400 Channel that anger.

00:26:42.580 Libs say this all the time.

00:26:43.860 Channel that anger.

00:26:44.880 Take that...

00:26:45.400 You don't usually hear conservatives say this.

00:26:47.920 Because anger, 999 times out of 1,000, is going to lead you in the wrong direction.

00:26:57.440 Drew has this line.

00:26:58.640 He says, anger is the devil's cocaine.

00:27:01.960 I'm not saying there is no place for righteous anger.

00:27:05.720 There is a far greater place for righteousness, broadly.

00:27:08.800 Yes, there can be a case for righteous anger.

00:27:12.440 But most of the time that you are getting angry, you are falling into a temptation, and you're falling into the sin of wrath, and it's going to lead you astray.

00:27:19.160 And you're going to feel justified in doing it.

00:27:21.040 Because your enemies might really be as bad as you think they are.

00:27:25.680 And the way that they persecute you might really be as bad as you think it is.

00:27:31.040 But you are called to patience.

00:27:34.540 You are called not to indulge in wrath.

00:27:39.960 It's like when you punish a child.

00:27:41.480 If you want to punish your child or spank your child or anything like that, what do they always tell you?

00:27:47.720 I'm such a softie with my kids.

00:27:49.080 I've got to get tougher before I totally spoil my kids.

00:27:52.200 But what do the educators always tell you?

00:27:56.240 What does your grandma always tell you?

00:27:58.200 Well, don't punish a child when you're angry.

00:28:01.820 Wait until you've calmed down.

00:28:03.020 If you're dealing with a rogue employee, like I'm dealing with Mr. Davies all the time, you know, gallivanting around, carousing, doing all sorts of nonsense.

00:28:10.680 When I'm going to, you know, bring down the hammer, you don't do it when you're angry.

00:28:15.620 Because you're going to lose your rational faculties.

00:28:19.160 You're going to lose control.

00:28:20.220 One last button on the transgender issue.

00:28:22.180 I meant to get to this yesterday, too.

00:28:24.500 There's a letter from the Vice President of the United States to Dylan Mulvaney.

00:28:30.580 Dylan Mulvaney, the most famous woman in America.

00:28:33.800 She writes with the letterhead of the Vice President.

00:28:37.340 Dear Dylan, I send you my warmest greetings as you celebrate your 365th day of living authentically.

00:28:45.220 Thank you for courageously sharing your story and your journey.

00:28:47.800 I appreciate your continued advocacy for transgender equality, including during your visit to the White House last year.

00:28:53.800 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:28:54.900 Sincerely, Kamala Harris.

00:28:59.780 Authentically.

00:29:00.220 Yes, yes.

00:29:02.680 If there's one word that comes to mind when I think of Dylan Mulvaney, it is authentic.

00:29:11.460 Of course, he's not living authentically.

00:29:13.320 He's living the opposite of authentically.

00:29:15.920 He is a man and he's pretending to be a woman. 0.78

00:29:19.180 But furthermore, there was a clip that just came out of Dylan Mulvaney before he dressed up like a woman on The Price is Right.

00:29:25.020 And he was behaving in exactly the same way he behaves in now, in a way that he says is how a woman behaves. 0.55

00:29:29.980 Very over-the-top, very foppish and attention-seeking.

00:29:35.520 Now, is that authentic?

00:29:36.800 I don't know.

00:29:37.640 I mean, it's clearly performed.

00:29:39.040 It's obviously very, very conscious.

00:29:41.580 But maybe he just is authentically an attention-seeker.

00:29:46.040 He's certainly very theatrical.

00:29:47.360 He was a Broadway actor.

00:29:50.900 The emphasis on authenticity is a big problem in our culture.

00:29:59.580 Because the focus on authenticity turns all of our attention on ourselves.

00:30:05.540 Say, am I, that thing that I just did, is that really me?

00:30:08.700 Is that really me or was I doing someone else?

00:30:11.340 I don't know.

00:30:12.320 What do I, what's my real desire?

00:30:14.300 Am I, what's my true sexual inclination?

00:30:19.200 What's my true fashion style?

00:30:21.500 What's my true professional calling?

00:30:25.100 What's my true, what's my authentic, what's my this, what's my that? 0.96

00:30:29.440 And it's a fool's errand to think in that way. 0.81

00:30:33.700 Because a man wrapped up in himself makes a small package indeed. 0.96

00:30:38.340 Especially because man is mimetic.

00:30:40.240 We grow, we learn, we are educated by imitating others.

00:30:44.400 That's true of little babies.

00:30:45.340 That's true of adults.

00:30:46.660 We imitate the way that someone we admire speaks.

00:30:49.520 We imitate the way that they think.

00:30:51.240 We imitate the things that they read.

00:30:52.460 We imitate the way that they dress.

00:30:53.600 We imitate everything.

00:30:55.920 We imitate their desires.

00:30:57.220 We desire certain things because they desire those things.

00:30:59.620 So, the way to live in a flourishing way is not to just look at yourself and then imitate yourself in this infinitely regressive way and recursive way until you're talking about nothing at all.

00:31:16.580 It's to look elsewhere.

00:31:19.120 Say, how do they live?

00:31:20.320 Hey, that good person over there, I'm going to imitate that person.

00:31:23.920 I'm going to live authentically as that person or that even better person or ultimately what you're trying to do is imitate God.

00:31:30.680 This is the idea of the imitation of Christ and this is the idea of putting your focus all on God and then trying to behave that way.

00:31:39.300 What would Jesus do?

00:31:40.860 If you do that, you're not going to be living authentically as yourself, but paradoxically, you will be living most authentically as yourself because you were made in the image and likeness of God and you were made to do good.

00:31:50.940 So, do it.

00:31:51.540 Let me ask you something.

00:31:53.340 Speaking of God, what are you ruled by?

00:31:56.360 There's a good chance you are ruled by something whether you know it or not.

00:32:00.400 That's inevitable.

00:32:01.260 So, that is what Jordan Peterson is talking about in episode 10 of Exodus.

00:32:06.920 I am less interested in the interior person, morally speaking, than you are.

00:32:12.000 Than probably any of you are.

00:32:13.840 And it's largely, I do believe, because I come from a behaviorist, law-based religion.

00:32:19.440 We care how you act.

00:32:22.060 That's why we don't have a claim that if you look at another woman with lust, it's as if you've committed adultery with her.

00:32:28.120 I am, as I said yesterday, I thank God for America's Christians.

00:32:32.340 And Maimonides said if it weren't for Christians, the world wouldn't know about the Torah. 0.76

00:32:37.140 So, I'm a big Christian fan.

00:32:40.880 But, obviously, Christianity and Judaism are not identical religions.

00:32:44.860 And we have no equivalent that if you look upon another woman with lust, it's as if you have committed adultery with your heart.

00:32:52.060 There's only one way to commit adultery in Judaism, and it's with a different organ. 0.97

00:32:56.660 And I'm not being cute.

00:32:57.920 I'm being very realistic.

00:32:59.240 In Exodus, Jordan is joined by a group of esteemed scholars, theologians, artists, and my great friend, Dennis Prager, to discuss one of those seminal books in the Bible.

00:33:11.000 New episodes are coming online every week exclusively for Daily Wire Plus members.

00:33:14.420 Join now at dailywire.com slash subscribe to watch Exodus.

00:33:19.520 Now, finally, finally, we have arrived at my favorite time of the week.

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00:33:30.700 Here we go.

00:33:32.320 Take it away. 0.94

00:33:34.060 Mr. Knowles, I have an awkward question for you about masturbation, of all things. 0.52

00:33:39.440 I'm a married man in my 30s. 0.53

00:33:41.100 I have a child. 0.98

00:33:42.180 And I just have to know, is masturbation without porn a sin? 0.99

00:33:45.240 I feel very ashamed when I succumb to the natural urge to masturbate. 0.97

00:33:48.760 And I don't know if that is because I've grown up thinking it was sinful.

00:33:51.940 And I psychologically am wired to feel that way, or if it truly is wrong.

00:33:57.720 Of course, so much of the internet tells me to just have at it and be guilt-free.

00:34:02.100 But I don't know how to not have guilt.

00:34:05.060 And I get jealous of those that say they have no guilt.

00:34:09.920 So a sincere thank you for any wisdom on this matter.

00:34:16.580 Yes, it's wrong and you shouldn't do it.

00:34:18.440 You feel guilt because that's your moral conscience.

00:34:22.300 The people who say that they don't have guilt have, one, dulled their moral conscience, and two, are lying to themselves.

00:34:29.500 And the way you know they're lying to themselves is because of a great bit of wisdom from that political philosopher Norm MacDonald.

00:34:37.800 People who say, you know, and you're going into your room to do that thing, you know, with yourself, you know, and what do you do?

00:34:43.780 Do you open up the window shades really wide open?

00:34:46.580 And you say, hey, everybody.

00:34:47.740 No, you don't.

00:34:48.260 You close the blinds.

00:34:49.180 You close the window shades.

00:34:50.800 And you feel ashamed.

00:34:52.880 People don't talk about that sort of thing openly because it's degrading.

00:34:56.460 It's very, very degrading.

00:34:58.580 And it's obviously not what your body was built for and your sexuality was built for.

00:35:04.460 Things have a purpose.

00:35:05.500 The purpose of this glass, not quite as good as a leftist tears tumbler, but the purpose of it is actually to drink wine, though I'm not a lush quite that much.

00:35:13.020 I'm drinking coffee in the morning.

00:35:14.800 The purpose of the paper is for me to read the show.

00:35:18.700 The purpose of my watch is to tell time.

00:35:21.060 The purpose of the sweater is to keep me warm.

00:35:23.380 The purpose of my eyes is to see.

00:35:25.060 The purpose of my mouth is to eat and to taste.

00:35:28.120 And the purpose of some of those other parts, like the ones that Dennis Prager was talking about earlier, the purpose of that is for a woman, not for yourself.

00:35:38.540 So, yeah, that's wrong.

00:35:40.320 How do you resist that?

00:35:42.420 Obviously, sex is a huge driver for men in particular.

00:35:46.300 You're married, so I would encourage you to have a conversation with your wife and maybe say,

00:35:52.000 Hey, look, you know, I am so drawn to you that we need to express that a little bit more for the generation and education of children and for the unity of the spouses and so that I don't fall into this sin, which is obviously a sin.

00:36:08.140 Okay, keep going.

00:36:08.720 Hey, Michael.

00:36:10.500 I've been thinking about the possibility of impeaching Joe Biden, and I generally agree with you when you say that it's not expedient for Republicans at the moment to do so.

00:36:19.620 But with all of the corruption that's coming out about Biden's family and Hunter and the laptop and all that, if he were to be impeached, I feel like this would be a game changer for the Republican field in 2024.

00:36:36.380 Because it would set Ron DeSantis apart as being someone among those three people, Ron DeSantis, Donald Trump, and Joe Biden, that has not been impeached when the other two have.

00:36:49.740 And you can't say that about Donald Trump.

00:36:52.080 So do you think that an impeachment of Joe Biden would make a nomination of Ron DeSantis more likely?

00:36:58.300 I'd love to hear your thoughts.

00:36:59.380 Thanks.

00:37:02.820 Maybe.

00:37:03.260 Maybe, there are plenty of reasons why people prefer Ron DeSantis to Trump, but I'm not sure that that would necessarily be one of them.

00:37:12.780 It might sway people who don't pay very close attention to politics, and to just hear a talking point, I'm the only guy who hasn't been impeached.

00:37:18.800 But as impeachment becomes nakedly political and not based on the legal criteria that are outlined in the Constitution for impeachment,

00:37:30.240 impeachment will become a badge of honor.

00:37:33.260 The risk for DeSantis there is that people will say, wait, this guy wasn't even impeached?

00:37:39.600 Oh, he must not be in the fight.

00:37:41.240 This guy, hold on.

00:37:42.340 This guy hasn't irritated the libs enough that they've impeached him over nothing yet?

00:37:46.560 I don't know.

00:37:47.100 I'm a little skeptical of him now.

00:37:48.580 Whereas with Trump, we know that both of his impeachments were so preposterous that it made one think,

00:37:55.080 wow, if they're going after this guy so hard based on nothing, he must be right over the target.

00:38:03.560 So I don't think it would really affect the race much at all.

00:38:07.400 And I think if you want to boost DeSantis, I would just focus on his many other virtues.

00:38:15.320 I think actually calling attention to his relative cleanness is a downside for DeSantis.

00:38:23.920 Because you know they're going to muddy him up.

00:38:25.500 The moment that he becomes a genuine threat at the national level, they're going to muddy him up terribly.

00:38:30.720 So who cares?

00:38:33.480 You know, at that point, why not go with the candidate who's already had his dirty laundry aired?

00:38:37.600 Next question.

00:38:39.080 Hey, Big Mike, it's Damaris from Arizona, and I have a presidential question for you.

00:38:43.300 I really enjoyed watching your Path to the Presidency interviews, and in particular, I took special note of Nikki Haley's interview.

00:38:49.960 I don't really know her, and I appreciate your interview because I feel like I'm a little more informed about what she believes in.

00:38:56.340 Frankly, I don't have anything against her or her running,

00:38:58.800 but I'm a little hesitant to back any female candidate for presidency because I do think it should still be a man's position. 0.99

00:39:05.460 I might be a little old-fashioned, my thinking, but that's just the way I think.

00:39:08.880 I also like you think it's too early to get fully behind one person in particular,

00:39:13.220 so knowing that, I've worded my question very carefully.

00:39:17.000 Could you perhaps sway me or outline the potential positives to a female presidency?

00:39:22.220 I look forward to hearing your thoughts, and thank you for being the best host at The Daily Wire.

00:39:28.800 Thank you so much, Damaris.

00:39:31.020 Thank you for your very kind comments and for using my true title, Big Mike.

00:39:36.620 Best nickname I've ever had.

00:39:39.120 You want me to outline all the advantages of a woman president. 0.99

00:39:44.000 That could be the topic of a book, perhaps, if I wanted to revisit my magnum opus.

00:39:49.040 No, I'm joking.

00:39:50.160 I'm joking.

00:39:50.700 I think that there could be some advantages of a woman president, maybe, but it depends a little bit how you view the presidency. 1.00

00:40:01.760 There have been great female rulers in history, but they've tended to be monarchs rather than prime ministers or presidents.

00:40:13.960 The president in the United States is weird because he's a little bit monarch and he's a little bit prime minister.

00:40:18.920 In other countries, they divide that office up so that the head of state, the president, is mostly ceremonial and meant to unite the country,

00:40:26.700 whereas the prime minister is the efficient politician who is driving at policy and day in and day out of government.

00:40:36.420 In the UK, they've got a king who is dignified or is supposed to be dignified and he unites the country and then they've got the prime minister, which is the efficient politician.

00:40:48.180 In the US, the president is both of those things.

00:40:50.900 So you think of some of the great Queen Victoria, very important and wonderful world leader.

00:40:57.320 Queen Elizabeth II, totally beloved.

00:41:00.640 Elizabeth I, for that matter, quite beloved.

00:41:03.220 Cleopatra, quite a prominent and important politician.

00:41:08.160 A woman would have an advantage of attracting the loyalty of men in the way that you would have that loyalty for your grandmother, 1.00

00:41:18.140 that Queen Elizabeth, I think, certainly in her later years was able to cultivate.

00:41:22.580 Or a loyalty like courtly love.

00:41:24.940 The idea that you would pledge your loyalty to the wife of a lord and because women are just so much more sympathetic and men put women on a pedestal, that maybe could work.

00:41:40.840 There have been some, there's one example, really, of a really tough-as-nails, conservative, efficient political leader in recent times.

00:41:49.640 That would be Margaret Thatcher. 0.99

00:41:51.280 So, you know, sometimes women can twist the knife a little bit better than men can. 1.00

00:41:56.620 They can be cool as a cucumber and do it.

00:41:58.800 But it's a rare woman who can do that. 1.00

00:42:00.820 But otherwise, no.

00:42:02.000 So, I don't, I would not go to the ballot box saying, all right, finally, we get a woman president.

00:42:08.440 There are advantages that women could have, but that would not, would not really motivate me.

00:42:13.200 Okay, next question.

00:42:14.660 Hello again, Mr. Knowles.

00:42:16.020 This is, once again, Slap My Base.

00:42:18.300 And I have another question I wanted you to express your opinion on.

00:42:23.100 What are your thoughts on citizens' arrests or citizen justice, if you will?

00:42:28.380 Well, I started mulling over the idea that citizens who are properly armed know the difference between right and wrong actually tend to produce more results than just waiting and calling for the police, and it reduces fatalities of good people.

00:42:44.260 But I wanted to take a look at the possibility of the negative consequences, whereas if somebody does not know the difference between right and wrong, but they think that they're just to take out somebody who disagrees with them, i.e. the libs, if you tell them that they can't use the women's bathroom,

00:43:04.020 and then they drag you out and they beat you to death because of that, then how would we define what is the actual definition of right and wrong for this sort of thing, even though we all know what the difference between right and wrong is?

00:43:19.480 Thanks.

00:43:19.700 We can infer from the moral order and deduce what is right and what is wrong using our moral conscience, and that is guided by tradition, by the inherited wisdom, by the civil law.

00:43:41.060 We can use our faculties of reason to work through these questions, but you're saying, what about in the heat of the moment?

00:43:49.080 We have a right to self-defense, to defend ourselves, to take down the immediate threat.

00:43:55.600 But in the example that you've just given, the people who go into a woman's bathroom, drag the guy out who's mostly just minding his business, then beat him to death on the sidewalk, they would not just be defending themselves or defending women.

00:44:12.480 They would be engaging in an act of vigilantism and murder in that case.

00:44:16.780 So vigilantism, very, very bad.

00:44:19.860 To say that you have a right to self-defense is not to say that you now have the right to go be a vigilante and go find every bad guy like Batman.

00:44:27.820 It's to say you have a right to stop the threat and then allow the civil authority to come in and do what it does.

00:44:37.000 But you have to be restrained in that regard, and so I don't see any fear of that.

00:44:41.260 You always have the right to defend yourself.

00:44:43.720 That just comes from the law of self-preservation. 0.99

00:44:47.720 But to go further than that, you have to give it up to the civil authority, even if the civil authority is corrupt and stupid and lazy and does all sorts of problems, as is often the case. 0.98

00:44:57.400 That would be how you protect against that, and in the long run, how you have a better shot of ensuring justice. 0.96

00:45:02.880 Today's fake headline Friday.

00:45:03.920 I've got more mailbag questions to get to.

00:45:06.440 We will get to that.

00:45:07.180 You will help me pick the correct, or the fake headline, rather, out of the five that Mr. Davies is trying to stump me on.

00:45:14.560 The only way to do it is to become a member of the Creme de la Creme, not Juhoy Poloi out here on YouTube, just like a leech, sucking up all this free content without parting with your hard-earned money so that you can help me figure out which headline is fake on Fridays.

00:45:31.340 No, no!

00:45:32.380 You've got to join that inner circle.

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 24, 2023

Ep. 1210 - TikTok Is Turning The Freakin' Frogs Gay

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