The Michael Knowles Show - March 15, 2018


Ep. 122 - Hey, Remember The Middle East？ ft. Maj. Scott Huesing


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

191.35387

Word Count

9,105

Sentence Count

239

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

44


Summary

Retired Marine Corps Major Scott Husing joins The Daily Wire to discuss the firing of Secretary of State Rex T. Tillerson, and why he s glad it happened. Then, the mailbag. Guests: Former Marine Scott Huses, author of Echo and Ramadi: The Firsthand Story of U.S. Marines in Iraq s deadliest city, Major Husing has served 24 years of honorable service, both enlisted and commissioned, and his career has spanned 10 deployments in over 60 countries.


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00:00:30.900 Hey, remember the Middle East?
00:00:33.500 We've been talking a lot about China
00:00:34.960 and, of course, Russia, you know,
00:00:36.580 which is controlling all of America
00:00:38.060 and probably all of the world,
00:00:39.660 but President Trump has just fired
00:00:41.720 his Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.
00:00:43.820 Whatever happened to the Middle East?
00:00:45.100 What, why aren't we talking about the Middle East?
00:00:47.500 You know, the place that we have been fighting
00:00:48.800 the longest war in U.S. history
00:00:50.020 for the entirety of the century.
00:00:51.540 Today, we will be joined by Major Scott Husing,
00:00:53.680 a retired U.S. Marine infantry officer
00:00:55.940 and author of Echo and Ramadi,
00:00:57.920 the first-hand story of U.S. Marines
00:01:00.040 in Iraq's deadliest city.
00:01:01.680 Major Husing has served 24 years
00:01:03.220 of honorable service,
00:01:04.580 both enlisted and commissioned,
00:01:05.940 and his career has spanned 10 deployments
00:01:08.060 in over 60 countries.
00:01:10.040 Scott will explain why he's glad Tillerson is fired
00:01:12.400 and, more broadly, America's role
00:01:14.280 in that godforsaken sandbox
00:01:15.780 between Europe and Asia.
00:01:17.280 Then, the mailbag.
00:01:18.420 I'm Michael Knowles,
00:01:19.240 and this is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:20.360 Beware, beware the Ides of March,
00:01:30.180 Mr. Tillerson.
00:01:31.220 Those Ides of March took him down,
00:01:32.860 unfortunately, I guess a few days early.
00:01:35.240 But, we were going to bring on Major Tillerson.
00:01:38.080 Major Tillerson.
00:01:39.520 No, he's fired Tillerson.
00:01:41.380 Fired Secretary of State Tillerson,
00:01:42.920 Major Husing.
00:01:43.660 But, before we do that,
00:01:44.500 we have got to talk about sleep.
00:01:46.040 Clearly, I haven't gotten enough sleep last night.
00:01:48.400 It is true.
00:01:49.040 We actually, we were here at The Daily Wire,
00:01:51.340 you know, having stogies and scotches
00:01:53.600 and all this thing very late.
00:01:55.900 And, you know me.
00:01:56.660 I need at least, what, 19 hours of sleep a night?
00:01:59.340 Otherwise, I don't function.
00:02:00.620 I just don't feel fresh.
00:02:01.640 I don't feel like me.
00:02:02.700 Sleep is very important.
00:02:03.700 People always cheap out on this.
00:02:05.100 It's very stupid to do that.
00:02:07.100 You spend at least a third of your life
00:02:09.120 sleeping, on average.
00:02:10.720 And, for me, you spend at least four-fifths of it.
00:02:13.980 There are a ton of online mattress retailers
00:02:15.800 popping up these days,
00:02:16.740 all with a one-size-fits-all solution
00:02:18.580 to a better sleep.
00:02:19.820 Guess what?
00:02:20.400 One size does not fit all.
00:02:22.380 I've moved around a lot from New York
00:02:24.140 and to Connecticut to LA.
00:02:25.720 I always just sell my mattress
00:02:26.940 because it's too hard to move it, you know.
00:02:28.460 And then I go to a mattress store
00:02:29.660 and I got to go into the shop
00:02:31.260 and they're all like piranhas there,
00:02:32.960 you know, trying to just gobble up all your money
00:02:34.800 and you can never really compare
00:02:36.460 or anything like that.
00:02:37.700 And it's just a real hassle.
00:02:39.520 You know me.
00:02:39.940 I don't even like to leave my chair,
00:02:41.200 much less go to a physical store.
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00:02:58.700 take their simple
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00:03:01.160 I'm a millennial.
00:03:01.820 I don't do anything
00:03:02.380 that takes more than five minutes.
00:03:03.840 This is very easy,
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00:03:15.900 You know,
00:03:16.240 I'm getting married kind of soon.
00:03:17.820 Maybe time to start shopping
00:03:18.980 for that wedding bed.
00:03:20.240 And as I've long said,
00:03:21.820 I like kind of more
00:03:22.720 of a firm mattress.
00:03:24.060 The sweet little Elisa
00:03:24.780 prefers a mattress
00:03:25.500 that I am not on.
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00:03:44.940 of my listeners and viewers
00:03:46.760 are homeless,
00:03:47.980 insane people.
00:03:49.300 So look,
00:03:49.860 you get 100 nights of sleeping.
00:03:51.300 That's pretty good.
00:03:52.540 You put it out on the curb
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00:04:21.240 Okay, let's bring on
00:04:22.340 Major Husing.
00:04:23.560 Scott, thank you so much
00:04:24.560 for being here.
00:04:25.620 Hey, it's my pleasure
00:04:26.220 to be on the program, Michael.
00:04:28.020 So to begin,
00:04:29.000 you wrote an op-ed
00:04:29.760 a few weeks ago
00:04:30.600 criticizing Rex Tillerson's plan
00:04:33.060 to give $3 billion
00:04:34.540 of American aid to Iraq.
00:04:36.780 The semi-sovereign nation
00:04:38.380 of Iraq,
00:04:38.940 as you write in your book,
00:04:40.460 is requesting $80 billion
00:04:41.980 in handouts
00:04:43.020 to rebuild the country.
00:04:44.560 Tillerson wanted
00:04:45.300 to allocate $3 billion
00:04:46.740 of U.S. taxpayer money.
00:04:48.980 You say it's not
00:04:49.540 a very good idea.
00:04:50.220 Why is that?
00:04:52.340 Well, having spent
00:04:53.460 the majority of my adult life
00:04:54.940 not sleeping,
00:04:55.780 but fighting in Iraq
00:04:57.300 and other places
00:04:58.220 in the world,
00:04:59.420 you know,
00:05:00.100 when I read that piece,
00:05:01.500 it just galled me
00:05:02.260 a little bit.
00:05:02.780 And my book,
00:05:04.180 Echo and Armadi,
00:05:04.800 is not political.
00:05:06.560 It doesn't take
00:05:07.520 one side or the other.
00:05:08.480 It's a story about,
00:05:09.400 you know,
00:05:10.540 the Marines
00:05:11.240 and the soldiers
00:05:11.860 and the families
00:05:12.500 that supported us.
00:05:13.460 But, you know,
00:05:14.400 you can't help but look back
00:05:15.660 and when you see
00:05:16.180 something like that
00:05:16.960 in mainstream media
00:05:18.340 and that's coming up
00:05:19.360 in the news,
00:05:19.840 I'm still very connected
00:05:20.760 to the Marine Corps
00:05:21.320 as I sit here
00:05:22.240 on Marine Corps base,
00:05:23.800 Camp Pendleton,
00:05:24.720 you know,
00:05:25.680 doing an interview
00:05:26.680 with some of my Marines today.
00:05:29.020 You know,
00:05:29.600 it strikes
00:05:30.400 at the heart
00:05:32.200 of everything we did
00:05:33.080 and oftentimes
00:05:33.520 I get asked the question,
00:05:34.880 you know,
00:05:35.060 hey,
00:05:35.280 did you win in Ramadi?
00:05:37.220 Did you win in Iraq?
00:05:38.320 And, you know,
00:05:38.760 we never had a bumper sticker,
00:05:40.300 Michael,
00:05:40.540 that said,
00:05:41.120 do this and you'll win.
00:05:43.280 Obviously,
00:05:43.860 killing more bad guys
00:05:45.540 was an effective way
00:05:46.620 to win
00:05:47.580 and, you know,
00:05:48.240 a metric of success,
00:05:49.500 but the true metric
00:05:50.180 was bringing
00:05:51.260 as many Marines
00:05:51.980 home alive as possible.
00:05:53.140 And when I see
00:05:55.340 our diplomatic corps,
00:05:58.240 our current administration
00:05:59.660 willing to write checks blindly
00:06:02.280 to rebuild a country
00:06:03.920 that has such a poor track record
00:06:05.900 of one,
00:06:06.820 embracing change
00:06:07.800 and two,
00:06:09.180 being good stewards
00:06:10.240 of the money
00:06:10.780 that they're given
00:06:11.540 and the unwillingness
00:06:13.080 to move forward,
00:06:14.400 it really bothers me
00:06:15.620 because a lot of people
00:06:17.160 will say,
00:06:17.840 thank you for your service
00:06:18.820 and they look at service members
00:06:20.120 and they say,
00:06:20.920 oh yeah,
00:06:21.340 my money's paying your salary.
00:06:22.920 Well, service members
00:06:23.820 pay taxes too.
00:06:25.500 So it's everybody's money
00:06:26.640 that's being invested.
00:06:27.280 When those people say that,
00:06:28.280 do you get to just
00:06:28.860 punch them in the face?
00:06:30.060 That is outrageous.
00:06:31.520 I do not.
00:06:32.420 Well,
00:06:32.900 we should do it for you.
00:06:35.440 No,
00:06:35.940 but you're doing a great job
00:06:37.000 because great programs
00:06:38.120 like you guys
00:06:39.160 allow people
00:06:41.020 that have served
00:06:42.060 to provide an understanding
00:06:43.940 to the general American people
00:06:45.300 about,
00:06:46.300 one,
00:06:46.600 what it means to sacrifice
00:06:47.800 and two,
00:06:48.540 what it means to serve your country.
00:06:50.120 And those that are serving,
00:06:51.400 they're not only
00:06:52.000 getting the worst salaries
00:06:53.600 of most Americans,
00:06:54.600 but they're paying taxes too.
00:06:57.020 So,
00:06:57.040 you know,
00:06:57.940 for someone that's spent
00:06:58.740 24 years in the Marine Corps
00:06:59.980 and that still pays
00:07:00.940 his fair share of taxes
00:07:01.860 more than most
00:07:02.600 as a Californian,
00:07:03.960 you know,
00:07:04.820 it does,
00:07:05.400 it does,
00:07:05.800 I do take exception
00:07:06.700 when we don't have
00:07:08.060 the right people
00:07:09.860 in the right job
00:07:10.840 for the right reason.
00:07:11.840 And I will never
00:07:12.820 applaud one side
00:07:14.560 or the other,
00:07:15.080 like,
00:07:15.400 hey,
00:07:15.520 I never like to see
00:07:16.360 anyone lose their job
00:07:17.460 or get fired
00:07:18.040 and I,
00:07:18.480 you know,
00:07:19.020 make it a President Trump
00:07:20.880 cliche from his apprentice days
00:07:22.740 of you're fired.
00:07:23.980 But I think we do need
00:07:25.760 the right type of leadership
00:07:26.860 in those positions,
00:07:28.120 not only at Department of State,
00:07:30.060 but also at Department of Defense.
00:07:32.560 So there's this synergy
00:07:34.860 between all of those
00:07:36.340 government organizations
00:07:37.180 that are making
00:07:37.800 the right decisions
00:07:38.780 for our troops
00:07:40.380 and for all Americans
00:07:41.440 that are in the best interest.
00:07:43.120 You know,
00:07:43.380 the book is really good.
00:07:44.360 I was reading it this morning
00:07:45.740 when I was sipping my covfefe
00:07:48.280 and preparing for the interview
00:07:49.800 and it's really,
00:07:50.500 really good.
00:07:50.920 And you write in the book
00:07:52.300 that you had two objectives
00:07:54.080 in Ramadi,
00:07:55.240 which is to bring your guys home
00:07:57.260 and to kill the bad guys.
00:07:58.720 And sometimes you just want
00:07:59.600 to focus on bringing
00:08:00.360 your guys home,
00:08:01.160 but obviously those two things
00:08:03.420 go together.
00:08:04.000 And as a matter of it
00:08:05.220 not being partisan,
00:08:06.480 not being political,
00:08:07.860 the Iraq war remains
00:08:09.180 uncomfortable for Democrats
00:08:10.860 and for Republicans.
00:08:12.560 It's so varied.
00:08:13.800 The invasion was
00:08:14.640 a spectacular success.
00:08:16.300 The occupation
00:08:17.000 seemed mismanaged
00:08:18.320 out of Washington.
00:08:19.440 The 2007 troop surge
00:08:20.900 was opposed
00:08:21.920 by just about everybody
00:08:22.960 other than George W. Bush.
00:08:24.300 Then it was later supported
00:08:25.500 by just about everybody,
00:08:27.020 including Barack Obama
00:08:28.060 and Hillary Clinton.
00:08:29.060 And then Barack Obama
00:08:29.980 decided to lose a war
00:08:30.960 that we'd already won.
00:08:32.480 First of all,
00:08:33.300 how does that summary hold up?
00:08:34.420 But more broadly,
00:08:35.360 as somebody who
00:08:36.180 has experienced
00:08:37.160 so much of it firsthand,
00:08:39.100 how do you think
00:08:39.820 about the Iraq war
00:08:40.760 now 15 years
00:08:41.760 after the invasion?
00:08:42.480 I think the summary
00:08:43.580 is absolutely correct.
00:08:45.960 You articulated it
00:08:47.080 and summarized it very well.
00:08:49.280 And as a member
00:08:50.420 of the surge strategy,
00:08:52.100 as Echo and Ramadi
00:08:53.760 has written,
00:08:54.240 we were part of that
00:08:54.940 in 2006 and 2007
00:08:56.580 to flood the battle space
00:08:58.500 with additional troops
00:08:59.500 to bring peace
00:09:01.000 and stability
00:09:01.480 to that country.
00:09:02.900 And we did that.
00:09:03.820 That's why I always say
00:09:04.660 to veterans
00:09:05.580 who question themselves,
00:09:06.680 you know,
00:09:06.800 did we win or lose?
00:09:07.640 Again, we won.
00:09:08.800 We absolutely won.
00:09:09.860 And where we failed
00:09:10.880 was we took off
00:09:12.480 the iron fist
00:09:13.760 way too soon
00:09:14.640 to slip on that
00:09:15.480 velvet glove proverbial.
00:09:17.740 And, you know,
00:09:18.860 we handed it back
00:09:19.700 over to the Iraqis.
00:09:20.920 And I'll use
00:09:21.420 what I know best.
00:09:22.640 My battalion
00:09:23.600 fought in 2004
00:09:25.120 in the first battle
00:09:25.980 of Ramadi.
00:09:26.600 And then two years later,
00:09:28.340 the battalion
00:09:28.840 was back again.
00:09:30.020 And it's because
00:09:30.900 we handed it back
00:09:31.600 over to a country
00:09:32.360 that wasn't
00:09:33.700 established.
00:09:34.960 They didn't have security.
00:09:36.540 They didn't have stability.
00:09:37.520 And there was no continuity
00:09:38.720 within this government
00:09:39.660 to truly and effectively
00:09:41.940 take care of the problems
00:09:43.480 of not only diplomacy,
00:09:45.040 but infrastructure
00:09:45.880 and support
00:09:46.700 that are really required
00:09:47.820 to make it happen.
00:09:48.800 And that's not an
00:09:49.500 that's not a indictment
00:09:51.420 on the Iraqi people.
00:09:52.780 But if we're going to
00:09:53.860 continue to give them money,
00:09:55.120 if we're going to continue
00:09:56.000 to provide troops
00:09:57.580 and support and service,
00:09:58.540 which we are, Michael,
00:09:59.900 and that's something
00:10:00.560 your listeners
00:10:01.080 and all Americans
00:10:01.960 need to know
00:10:02.540 is that there are currently
00:10:03.660 Marines and soldiers
00:10:04.580 fighting in Iraq today
00:10:05.900 and Afghanistan
00:10:07.120 and the Horn of Africa.
00:10:08.880 And if we continue
00:10:09.560 to do this
00:10:10.380 without a solid plan
00:10:12.240 to rebuild those countries
00:10:13.760 and be good students
00:10:15.140 of the of the lessons
00:10:16.220 we learned in history
00:10:16.960 in the Pacific theater
00:10:17.920 and in the European theater
00:10:19.540 after World War II,
00:10:20.620 we're going to continue
00:10:21.660 to be tripping
00:10:23.140 on our own shoes.
00:10:24.780 You know, you
00:10:25.300 you were a lance corporal
00:10:26.620 in Desert Storm
00:10:27.460 as you write in the book.
00:10:28.540 You've had a long career
00:10:29.540 in the military.
00:10:31.000 How has the culture
00:10:32.200 of the military,
00:10:33.140 the management
00:10:33.660 of the military,
00:10:34.420 civilians perceptions
00:10:35.980 of the military
00:10:36.840 changed over your
00:10:38.580 quarter century of service
00:10:39.720 and maybe even
00:10:40.660 a longer period
00:10:41.520 as you say
00:10:42.360 as a student of history?
00:10:43.760 Well, I think it's changed
00:10:44.560 for the better.
00:10:45.640 I didn't,
00:10:46.480 I didn't see any
00:10:47.500 of the negative effects
00:10:48.520 like our Vietnam
00:10:49.660 era veterans did
00:10:51.180 and to any Vietnam vets
00:10:52.900 watching or listening
00:10:53.800 to the program,
00:10:54.320 I say welcome home.
00:10:55.400 We love you guys
00:10:56.360 and for the,
00:10:58.280 the latter generations,
00:11:00.000 even as a young enlisted guy
00:11:02.000 back in Desert Storm
00:11:03.360 through my time
00:11:04.880 as a,
00:11:05.220 as a major
00:11:05.760 when I retired in 2013,
00:11:07.140 the American perception
00:11:09.780 is great.
00:11:11.000 They love to support
00:11:12.380 their vets
00:11:12.980 and, you know,
00:11:14.040 but I say it's,
00:11:14.860 it's not just a bumper sticker.
00:11:16.240 You really got to put
00:11:16.900 some skin in the game.
00:11:18.520 You need to reach out.
00:11:20.100 You need to support
00:11:21.120 with your services
00:11:22.400 or,
00:11:23.060 or connect to a great nonprofit
00:11:25.160 and really help
00:11:26.600 because it's not just a bumper.
00:11:27.940 You can't just throw
00:11:28.520 that bumper sticker
00:11:29.120 on your car
00:11:29.520 and say,
00:11:29.780 I support vets.
00:11:30.620 Well, what does that mean?
00:11:32.120 Because without some,
00:11:33.800 some ability to measure that,
00:11:36.240 you know,
00:11:37.560 I really can't,
00:11:38.660 I really can't understand
00:11:39.920 what their intent is.
00:11:41.160 But at the end of the day,
00:11:42.320 every,
00:11:42.740 every American that walks up to me
00:11:44.060 or any other veteran says,
00:11:45.020 thank you for your service.
00:11:46.060 It means a lot to me.
00:11:47.180 It means a lot to every veteran.
00:11:48.380 So in the absence
00:11:49.460 of not knowing what to do,
00:11:51.040 just start there.
00:11:52.060 It's a great way to start.
00:11:52.580 It's a good place to start.
00:11:54.380 So Major Husing,
00:11:55.500 we have a few more questions for you,
00:11:57.020 but before I get to them,
00:11:58.400 I just noticed the time
00:12:00.200 on my movement watch.
00:12:01.260 So I have to talk
00:12:02.100 about movement watches
00:12:02.960 because they help us
00:12:03.620 keep the lights on here
00:12:04.600 and they are so sleek
00:12:05.900 and they are so cool.
00:12:07.900 You've all heard me
00:12:08.740 talk about movement.
00:12:10.440 It is a watch company
00:12:11.520 started by two college dropouts.
00:12:13.660 The company has grown
00:12:14.780 insanely fast.
00:12:16.440 They have to keep updating
00:12:17.700 the copy
00:12:18.260 because they keep selling
00:12:19.340 so many watches.
00:12:20.340 So they've sold now
00:12:21.380 almost 2 million watches
00:12:22.960 in 160 plus countries.
00:12:25.660 They continue to revolutionize
00:12:27.280 fashion on the belief
00:12:28.300 that style shouldn't
00:12:29.400 break the bank.
00:12:30.420 I don't know if you've
00:12:31.140 checked out the site lately.
00:12:32.100 They keep adding
00:12:32.780 new watch styles.
00:12:33.940 They've doubled
00:12:34.440 their number of watch styles.
00:12:35.880 They're still expanding.
00:12:37.180 This one,
00:12:37.720 I have a couple movement watches.
00:12:39.400 This one is my favorite.
00:12:40.420 I think it's called the Atlas.
00:12:42.100 It's part of the Revolver collection.
00:12:43.820 Super cool.
00:12:44.700 They call it,
00:12:45.240 I think it's like
00:12:45.960 retro futuristic.
00:12:47.400 It seems like a contradiction,
00:12:48.680 but it looks super cool.
00:12:49.700 It's got a nice
00:12:50.860 minimalist style,
00:12:52.400 very modern style,
00:12:53.200 and yet it's in a case
00:12:54.520 that you could think
00:12:55.140 comes out of the 50s
00:12:56.020 or the 60s.
00:12:56.960 Really, really great product.
00:12:58.860 They've come a long way
00:12:59.920 since being crowdfunded
00:13:00.940 out of a living room.
00:13:02.820 They have introduced
00:13:03.800 a ton of new collections
00:13:04.880 for men and women.
00:13:05.760 They've also expanded
00:13:06.640 into sunglasses
00:13:07.720 and fashion forward bracelets
00:13:09.600 for her or him,
00:13:11.260 you know, or him, man.
00:13:12.120 It's 2018.
00:13:13.120 We're all a little
00:13:13.680 metro these days,
00:13:14.800 a little metro and retro.
00:13:16.000 So they have a lot
00:13:17.060 of styles here.
00:13:18.640 I've got one
00:13:19.660 for sweet little Elisa.
00:13:21.080 I really like these watches.
00:13:22.460 It's all about looking good
00:13:23.820 and keeping it simple.
00:13:24.680 If you're a guy,
00:13:25.460 come on,
00:13:25.940 you might not be
00:13:26.640 an American hero
00:13:27.420 like Major Husing,
00:13:28.600 but you, you know,
00:13:29.460 you can at least get
00:13:30.120 to your meetings on time.
00:13:31.140 You can at least show up
00:13:32.500 where you're supposed to be
00:13:33.420 and pretend that you have a job.
00:13:34.860 So the Movement watches
00:13:35.940 started just $95.
00:13:38.200 Look, if you went
00:13:38.980 to a department store,
00:13:40.000 I love watches.
00:13:41.440 I've owned a lot of watches
00:13:42.980 and I always like to wear them.
00:13:44.840 If you go to a department store,
00:13:46.000 you're going to pay
00:13:46.320 $400 or $500
00:13:46.880 for a watch of this quality.
00:13:49.520 Movement figured out
00:13:50.320 that by selling online,
00:13:51.200 they were able to cut out
00:13:51.840 the middleman.
00:13:52.740 And retail markup
00:13:53.540 providing the best possible price,
00:13:55.560 classic design,
00:13:56.380 quality construction,
00:13:57.680 and styled minimalism.
00:13:59.700 You know, look,
00:14:00.500 I'm a big fan
00:14:01.080 of styled minimalism.
00:14:02.240 I've made any sort of career
00:14:04.020 I have on minimalism.
00:14:05.440 And so you might want
00:14:06.540 to bring that
00:14:06.920 from your literary pursuits
00:14:07.940 also over to watches.
00:14:09.920 Get 15% off today
00:14:11.540 with free shipping
00:14:12.720 and free returns.
00:14:13.560 There is no reason
00:14:14.540 not to do it
00:14:15.120 by going to
00:14:15.760 mvmt.com
00:14:17.240 slash
00:14:17.620 covfefe,
00:14:18.520 c-o-v-f-e-f-e.
00:14:20.340 There are no syllables
00:14:21.260 in movement,
00:14:22.360 but there are syllables
00:14:23.460 in covfefe.
00:14:24.280 Try to keep that in your head.
00:14:25.280 You're smart.
00:14:25.840 You'll be able
00:14:26.160 to figure it out.
00:14:26.700 mvmt.com
00:14:28.920 slash
00:14:29.280 covfefe,
00:14:30.060 c-o-v-f-e-f-e.
00:14:31.200 See why movement
00:14:31.760 keeps growing.
00:14:32.680 Check out their
00:14:33.100 expanding collection.
00:14:34.860 Join the movement.
00:14:36.660 All right.
00:14:37.640 Back to you,
00:14:38.080 Major Husing.
00:14:38.860 During World War II,
00:14:40.520 12% of Americans
00:14:41.940 served in the armed forces.
00:14:43.680 Today,
00:14:44.000 that number has dropped
00:14:44.820 to 0.4%.
00:14:46.220 In 1975,
00:14:47.920 70% of congressmen
00:14:49.500 had served
00:14:49.920 in the military.
00:14:50.900 Today,
00:14:51.180 that number
00:14:51.480 is down to 20%.
00:14:52.460 7.3% of Americans
00:14:54.900 alive today
00:14:55.520 have served
00:14:56.180 in the military
00:14:56.700 at some point
00:14:57.320 in their lives
00:14:57.800 and just a little
00:14:58.580 over 5%
00:14:59.400 have served
00:15:00.280 during wartime.
00:15:01.940 Is there too great
00:15:02.960 a division
00:15:03.520 between Americans
00:15:04.460 and the people
00:15:05.480 who fight
00:15:06.020 to protect our freedom?
00:15:07.340 Would it benefit
00:15:07.980 the U.S.
00:15:08.720 to mandate
00:15:09.400 some sort of
00:15:10.420 military or civil service
00:15:12.020 and would that
00:15:12.720 even be politically
00:15:13.740 possible these days?
00:15:15.640 I don't think
00:15:16.240 that's necessarily
00:15:17.080 the answer
00:15:17.720 because with
00:15:18.540 our all-volunteer service,
00:15:20.020 we absolutely
00:15:20.800 have the
00:15:21.920 best
00:15:23.040 service members,
00:15:25.120 we have the
00:15:25.480 best equipment
00:15:26.240 and yeah,
00:15:28.140 there's room
00:15:28.800 for improvements
00:15:29.480 with some
00:15:29.900 of our programs
00:15:30.720 and a lot
00:15:31.760 of the large
00:15:32.180 service vessels
00:15:32.900 and aircraft
00:15:33.480 but these young
00:15:35.240 men and women
00:15:35.680 get the best training,
00:15:37.220 they have the best
00:15:37.760 leadership
00:15:38.160 that they have
00:15:39.160 to offer
00:15:39.440 and they come
00:15:39.860 from families
00:15:40.660 in America
00:15:41.740 that raise
00:15:42.860 these people
00:15:44.560 who are willing
00:15:45.900 to raise their hand
00:15:46.840 and make a sacrifice
00:15:47.940 and serve their country.
00:15:49.220 It is,
00:15:49.800 it's less than
00:15:50.360 one half of 1%
00:15:51.380 of 330 million people
00:15:53.200 so making it mandatory,
00:15:55.300 no,
00:15:55.480 I don't think
00:15:55.860 that's the answer.
00:15:57.560 Do I think
00:15:57.960 there's a divide
00:15:58.820 between the generations
00:16:00.620 who are serving
00:16:01.900 in Congress
00:16:02.480 or elected officials?
00:16:03.980 Absolutely
00:16:04.420 and I'd love
00:16:05.620 to be back
00:16:06.020 on your program
00:16:06.520 to talk about
00:16:07.020 an op-ed I got
00:16:07.600 coming out next week
00:16:08.500 about our
00:16:09.620 millennial generation
00:16:10.600 because I'm here
00:16:11.820 to tell you
00:16:12.140 I'm a fan
00:16:12.600 and I think
00:16:13.280 you probably
00:16:13.680 may fall into
00:16:14.340 that group.
00:16:14.780 I think
00:16:15.900 I sort of like
00:16:17.560 them because
00:16:18.060 I'm part of them.
00:16:19.120 I think you might
00:16:19.760 be the only guy
00:16:20.480 in the country
00:16:21.000 though
00:16:21.260 who likes
00:16:21.840 the millennials.
00:16:22.460 They get so much
00:16:23.260 so maligned
00:16:24.600 in the press.
00:16:26.020 Well,
00:16:26.300 I'll let you
00:16:27.020 read the article
00:16:27.660 and hear my opinion
00:16:29.040 on it
00:16:29.340 but I think
00:16:30.120 that there's
00:16:30.880 a big disconnect
00:16:31.660 and a lot
00:16:32.660 of underestimation
00:16:34.900 by every
00:16:35.700 elder generation
00:16:36.940 that doesn't
00:16:37.680 understand
00:16:38.140 each generation
00:16:39.640 has its own
00:16:40.440 form of greatness
00:16:41.240 and I never
00:16:41.900 diminish that
00:16:42.760 because I've
00:16:43.620 heard that
00:16:43.960 throughout the
00:16:44.420 years
00:16:44.760 through my
00:16:45.360 24 years
00:16:46.600 in the Marine
00:16:47.240 Corps.
00:16:48.060 I'm sure
00:16:48.580 the Vietnam
00:16:49.020 vets said
00:16:49.600 that about
00:16:50.060 us before
00:16:50.620 we went
00:16:51.020 into Iraq.
00:16:51.780 Guess what?
00:16:52.180 We proved
00:16:52.540 them wrong
00:16:52.900 and we will
00:16:54.380 continue to do
00:16:55.160 that so I
00:16:55.700 want them
00:16:56.160 to understand
00:16:57.140 your listeners
00:16:58.040 and to those
00:16:59.100 serving have
00:17:00.100 faith because
00:17:01.040 they will prove
00:17:02.240 you wrong
00:17:02.620 ultimately because
00:17:03.400 we're Americans
00:17:04.560 and we do a lot
00:17:05.880 of things great
00:17:06.640 and our nation's
00:17:08.380 military is an
00:17:09.420 extreme example
00:17:10.680 of the greatness
00:17:11.560 of this country
00:17:12.260 because it
00:17:14.060 takes a lot
00:17:14.780 to do what
00:17:15.860 these young
00:17:16.240 men and women
00:17:16.700 do.
00:17:17.680 That is such
00:17:18.840 a good point
00:17:19.320 because we
00:17:19.920 frequently think
00:17:21.040 of these
00:17:21.820 you know
00:17:22.160 these millennials
00:17:22.780 ordering avocado
00:17:23.820 toast for
00:17:24.400 $37 and
00:17:25.840 changing their
00:17:26.440 gender every
00:17:27.120 third Tuesday
00:17:27.880 of the month
00:17:28.520 and you know
00:17:29.300 it gets a
00:17:29.780 little bit much
00:17:30.420 and we kind
00:17:30.760 of malign them
00:17:31.360 but these
00:17:31.980 are extremes
00:17:32.660 that you see
00:17:33.340 on the news
00:17:34.400 headlines and
00:17:35.580 there are still
00:17:36.380 great people
00:17:37.000 there is still
00:17:37.440 greatness in the
00:17:38.000 country on the
00:17:39.460 kind of difficult
00:17:41.160 side of this
00:17:41.780 you write a lot
00:17:42.720 in the book
00:17:43.100 about post
00:17:43.640 traumatic stress
00:17:44.500 I know a lot
00:17:45.800 of veterans
00:17:46.200 commit suicide
00:17:46.920 or they attempt
00:17:47.480 suicide after
00:17:48.160 leaving the
00:17:48.600 service
00:17:48.860 I had a viewer
00:17:49.640 write in to me
00:17:50.400 to say that he
00:17:51.300 and other veterans
00:17:52.060 he knew
00:17:52.600 he and other
00:17:53.560 veterans
00:17:53.940 had attempted
00:17:54.660 suicide
00:17:55.160 just to be
00:17:56.300 admitted to
00:17:56.860 the VA mental
00:17:57.620 ward where they
00:17:58.600 could find some
00:17:59.400 regimentation
00:18:00.200 and three hots
00:18:01.100 and a cot
00:18:01.580 is there any
00:18:02.940 public policy
00:18:04.140 that you can
00:18:05.580 imagine that
00:18:06.340 congress could pass
00:18:07.340 or that maybe
00:18:08.580 the civil society
00:18:10.340 and the
00:18:10.740 non-governmental
00:18:11.560 organizations
00:18:12.380 could put
00:18:13.000 forward
00:18:13.420 that would
00:18:13.980 alleviate
00:18:14.580 PTSD among
00:18:15.560 veterans
00:18:15.900 well I think
00:18:16.900 you know
00:18:17.520 I was talking
00:18:18.140 to a good
00:18:18.540 friend of mine
00:18:19.180 and fellow author
00:18:20.160 Robert Verr
00:18:20.720 about this
00:18:21.320 driving back
00:18:22.840 from LA
00:18:23.400 and seeing a
00:18:25.020 couple of those
00:18:25.420 mattresses on
00:18:26.060 Sepulveda
00:18:26.500 but you know
00:18:29.540 you first have to
00:18:30.320 frame the problem
00:18:31.160 and you know
00:18:32.040 is suicide the
00:18:33.600 problem or the
00:18:34.360 result of a problem
00:18:35.320 is you know
00:18:36.000 the problem
00:18:36.560 isolation or a
00:18:38.140 feeling of
00:18:38.580 hopelessness
00:18:39.280 and all of
00:18:39.840 those things
00:18:40.380 that those
00:18:42.200 series of
00:18:43.800 traumatic events
00:18:44.800 that these young
00:18:45.560 men and women
00:18:46.000 experienced during
00:18:46.820 combat or whatever
00:18:48.000 whatever their
00:18:48.660 trauma is I don't
00:18:49.540 say my trauma is
00:18:50.360 any worse than
00:18:50.940 your trauma or
00:18:51.580 better but those
00:18:52.800 traumatic events
00:18:53.540 lead to a sense
00:18:56.020 of hopelessness
00:18:56.820 and how do you
00:18:57.540 cure hopelessness
00:18:58.600 and through my
00:18:59.760 writing and through
00:19:00.700 my connection with
00:19:01.840 veterans organizations
00:19:02.760 and being the
00:19:03.360 executive director
00:19:03.960 Save the Brave
00:19:04.620 One of the ways
00:19:06.220 we do that is
00:19:07.000 through connecting
00:19:07.600 veterans and
00:19:08.520 connecting people
00:19:09.300 who are feeling
00:19:10.420 hopeless before
00:19:12.780 they get to that
00:19:13.920 complete isolation
00:19:15.800 where they think
00:19:17.080 this is my only
00:19:18.260 solution is taking
00:19:19.340 my own life and
00:19:20.480 sometimes even
00:19:21.080 that's not enough
00:19:22.260 because there's a
00:19:23.480 lot of times we've
00:19:24.220 lost guys and
00:19:25.820 women that you
00:19:27.980 just never see it
00:19:28.840 coming and all you
00:19:29.840 can do is really
00:19:30.540 try and help but
00:19:31.700 to say that
00:19:32.740 private
00:19:33.320 privatization of
00:19:34.880 the VA system
00:19:36.120 or the VA
00:19:36.760 health care system
00:19:37.680 is the only
00:19:38.480 answer I think
00:19:39.800 there's probably a
00:19:40.520 hybrid somewhere in
00:19:41.440 there that is the
00:19:42.040 answer but you
00:19:44.060 know it again it's
00:19:45.520 not some bumper
00:19:46.220 sticker Michael it's
00:19:47.100 not some 22 push-up
00:19:48.520 challenge on Facebook
00:19:49.300 these are real
00:19:50.540 people these are my
00:19:52.380 brothers their sons
00:19:53.700 and daughters of
00:19:54.660 Americans that
00:19:55.460 they're taking their
00:19:56.080 own lives and if
00:19:57.640 you can see over my
00:19:58.620 right shoulder you
00:19:59.840 know those are the
00:20:00.300 names of the brothers
00:20:01.100 and sisters and
00:20:02.120 soldiers and Marines
00:20:03.040 that we lost in this
00:20:05.520 long war as I sit
00:20:07.000 here at our memorial
00:20:07.720 at Camp Pendleton
00:20:08.380 but there's no
00:20:09.860 memorial no granite
00:20:11.520 pillars for the
00:20:12.380 almost 50,000 veterans
00:20:14.620 that take their own
00:20:15.480 lives from the effects
00:20:16.660 of post-traumatic stress
00:20:17.660 in this country and
00:20:18.540 those numbers may be
00:20:20.580 even higher because
00:20:21.800 the only numbers we
00:20:22.680 see are the ones that
00:20:23.340 are reported from
00:20:23.860 active duty service
00:20:24.640 members through the
00:20:25.360 DOD and that's a
00:20:26.660 staggering fact so
00:20:28.260 there's a lot of ways
00:20:29.340 to help absolutely
00:20:31.060 as a fan of less
00:20:32.380 government you know
00:20:33.780 you know being
00:20:35.060 conservative I
00:20:36.040 absolutely think
00:20:37.260 there's other things
00:20:38.060 they could be doing
00:20:38.820 but individuals can
00:20:41.040 help and there's
00:20:41.660 there's ways to help
00:20:42.320 that's why a portion
00:20:43.800 of the proceeds of
00:20:44.660 sales of my book
00:20:45.620 Echoing Ramadi go to
00:20:47.200 Save the Brave to
00:20:48.040 help veterans with
00:20:48.780 post-traumatic stress
00:20:49.620 because for me it's
00:20:51.400 all about helping
00:20:52.500 each other and we
00:20:53.240 continue to stay
00:20:54.280 connected even to
00:20:55.580 this day long after
00:20:56.500 we left the
00:20:56.980 battlefield and that's
00:20:57.880 what's important
00:20:58.420 that's such an
00:21:00.340 important point
00:21:00.980 because we can say
00:21:02.040 we need to reform
00:21:02.680 the VA of course we
00:21:03.500 need to reform the
00:21:04.140 VA we can say there
00:21:05.260 need to be non-profit
00:21:06.660 organizations that can
00:21:07.620 help and you should go
00:21:08.460 out and help and that
00:21:09.260 of course is true but
00:21:10.520 post-traumatic stress is
00:21:11.620 nothing new shell shock
00:21:13.200 has been around for a
00:21:14.500 very long time and
00:21:15.620 you're dealing with
00:21:16.340 people you're dealing
00:21:17.020 with a complex group of
00:21:19.120 people and unfortunately
00:21:20.860 evil does breed these
00:21:23.400 awful events in the
00:21:24.460 world and there isn't
00:21:25.860 some utopian solution
00:21:26.980 there's no bumper
00:21:27.600 sticker that's going to
00:21:28.380 end it and you really
00:21:29.800 need some compassion
00:21:31.000 and some empathy and
00:21:31.940 to to live with people
00:21:33.240 on the final point this
00:21:35.080 is the the main point I
00:21:36.180 want to talk to you
00:21:36.760 about because we've
00:21:37.280 talked so much on this
00:21:38.860 program and in the news
00:21:39.840 about China and Russia
00:21:41.340 as you know Donald Trump
00:21:42.620 is secretly Boris from
00:21:44.260 Rocky and Bullwinkle and
00:21:45.820 apparently the whole time
00:21:46.740 we've known him for 40
00:21:48.080 years as a celebrity and a
00:21:49.220 business tycoon he was
00:21:50.320 really a Manchurian
00:21:51.240 candidate for Moscow of
00:21:52.660 course you know this has
00:21:53.580 been reported widely what
00:21:55.580 should the US role in the
00:21:57.100 Middle East be moving
00:21:58.580 forward not China not
00:22:00.020 Russia the Middle East
00:22:00.980 well again I get asked
00:22:05.060 that question a lot you
00:22:06.560 know and it goes back to
00:22:08.040 the original the point you
00:22:09.200 know did we win and I they
00:22:11.740 say do you feel that your
00:22:13.220 sacrifices and that and the
00:22:14.860 Marines and and sailors you
00:22:16.880 lost over there were all for
00:22:18.420 not and I say no because
00:22:20.860 Marines don't fight policy they
00:22:23.920 don't fight politics or we
00:22:25.600 fight the enemy and that's
00:22:27.180 what my guys did day in and
00:22:28.380 day out fighting five six
00:22:29.760 seven times a day day and
00:22:31.520 day out they fought and
00:22:32.880 killed the enemy so they
00:22:35.160 won but do I think we
00:22:37.480 should again been better
00:22:38.580 stewards and established a
00:22:40.180 firm presence in the Middle
00:22:41.260 East so we didn't have to
00:22:42.820 look into our crystal ball and
00:22:43.880 say you know what I bet
00:22:45.160 we're gonna be back here in
00:22:46.020 10 years and in May of 2015
00:22:48.020 history proved us right and
00:22:50.120 I'm no I'm no gypsy Michael
00:22:51.900 but ISIS took hold in the
00:22:54.400 Middle East in 2015 and
00:22:56.440 where did they take hold
00:22:57.500 Ramadi because it's the
00:22:59.280 capital of Al-Ambar province
00:23:00.660 it was key terrain then just
00:23:02.640 as is key terrain now and I
00:23:04.540 don't think anybody needs to
00:23:05.660 be a political scientist but
00:23:07.720 for those of us that that
00:23:09.040 fought and bled and and and
00:23:11.400 lost our brothers and sisters
00:23:12.780 on the battlefield we knew
00:23:14.780 that if we didn't have a firm
00:23:17.260 presence in the Middle East
00:23:18.500 we'd ultimately be back there
00:23:19.800 because we're the guys that
00:23:21.700 have to show them what right
00:23:22.840 looks like until we step up
00:23:24.880 and until our political system
00:23:27.300 and our industrial and
00:23:29.200 economic leaders in this
00:23:30.980 country step up and show
00:23:32.740 them what right looks like
00:23:33.660 they're going to continue to
00:23:35.240 wallow in how they think it
00:23:37.600 should be done to establish
00:23:38.980 whatever form of democracy
00:23:40.500 they want and I'm not trying
00:23:42.580 to impose the American system
00:23:43.940 on them but they should come
00:23:45.260 up with their own so we don't
00:23:46.260 continually have to go back
00:23:47.380 there and try and fix their
00:23:48.320 problem and clean it up
00:23:49.280 yeah yeah absolutely yeah
00:23:51.240 absolutely but at the end of
00:23:53.180 the day Marines will always
00:23:54.660 you know do what Marines do
00:23:56.080 best and that's taking care of
00:23:57.240 those that can't help
00:23:58.300 themselves and if those are the
00:24:00.040 orders of the any president
00:24:02.340 of the United States the Marines
00:24:03.320 will respond that's such a good
00:24:05.340 point we frequently hear oh
00:24:07.720 let's just get out of there we've
00:24:08.760 been there too long we've been
00:24:09.800 there long enough but the
00:24:11.020 lesson of the previous
00:24:12.360 presidential administration is
00:24:13.720 you you're going to have to go
00:24:15.200 back and clean it up again if
00:24:16.600 you don't do it right if you
00:24:17.540 don't have the courage to do
00:24:18.380 it right Major Scott Husing
00:24:20.680 first thank you for your
00:24:21.840 service second thank you for
00:24:23.120 your book the book is very
00:24:24.700 good I recommend everybody to
00:24:26.360 get it Echo and Ramadi the
00:24:27.760 first-hand story of US Marines
00:24:29.800 in Iraq's deadliest city it's a
00:24:31.620 really gripping account and an
00:24:33.180 account that the 99.5% of
00:24:36.180 Americans who are not currently in
00:24:37.940 the military all ought to read
00:24:39.300 Major Husing thank you for being
00:24:41.240 here when we're gonna have to
00:24:42.080 have you back to talk about
00:24:42.940 your next op-ed yeah I'd love it
00:24:44.760 anytime you want me on the
00:24:45.700 program I'd love to be back
00:24:46.700 thanks Michael all right thank
00:24:48.180 you Scott you're telling me I
00:24:50.800 got I have such a good mailbag
00:24:52.300 today and you're telling me I
00:24:53.940 have to say goodbye you are
00:24:55.540 sick monsters and sadists all of
00:24:58.340 you we have to say goodbye if
00:25:00.300 you're on YouTube no you're not
00:25:01.280 but if you're on Facebook you've
00:25:02.740 got to go to dailywire.com go to
00:25:05.280 Daily Wire right now what do you
00:25:06.720 get you get me you get the
00:25:08.020 Andrew Klavan show you get the
00:25:08.840 Ben Shapiro show it's $10 a
00:25:10.740 month or $100 for an annual
00:25:12.040 membership you'll get the
00:25:13.180 conversation yeah yeah
00:25:14.740 blah blah blah blah blah the
00:25:17.780 leftist tears tumblr look at the
00:25:20.660 leftist tears tumblr there is so
00:25:22.200 much going on there has been so
00:25:23.840 much rending of garments on
00:25:25.920 Twitter these days you've seen
00:25:28.000 you know I don't know if you've
00:25:29.000 been paying attention to the gun
00:25:30.380 control debate I don't know if
00:25:31.440 you've been paying attention to
00:25:32.460 where they said there was gonna
00:25:33.340 be that trade war it's gonna
00:25:34.280 destroy the global economy it's
00:25:35.420 all gonna go down but it didn't
00:25:37.100 didn't happen did it didn't
00:25:38.400 happen and so this is gonna fill
00:25:39.740 up you're gonna need the only FDA
00:25:41.560 approved vessel to store your
00:25:43.180 leftist tears or they could
00:25:44.260 become radioactive and destroy
00:25:45.820 your whole family possibly major
00:25:47.220 U.S. cities yeah you're a leftist
00:25:49.100 tears tumblr at dailywire.com we
00:25:50.640 will be right back with the mailbag
00:25:51.960 we're low on time so we're gonna
00:26:04.340 fly through these today these are
00:26:05.760 gonna be all of the important
00:26:06.780 questions we're gonna fly right
00:26:07.880 from Ivan dear Michael why did you
00:26:11.260 decide to attend Yale and what
00:26:13.700 other universities and colleges
00:26:15.000 did you apply to I decided to
00:26:17.040 attend Yale because I am an actor
00:26:19.540 and I've always really liked
00:26:20.620 politics and at Yale they do both
00:26:23.600 and they've got a lot of people who
00:26:26.040 have done very well in both I also
00:26:27.620 get a kick out of being a
00:26:29.460 conservative at a very lefty place
00:26:31.340 you know Yale produced Buckley in
00:26:32.800 the bushes and there's there's this
00:26:34.660 kind of much maligned conservative
00:26:37.420 movement that keeps coming out of
00:26:38.700 Yale I actually didn't really apply
00:26:41.260 to other colleges I applied early
00:26:43.700 and then I started applications at a
00:26:45.220 couple of other places I received an
00:26:47.580 email I'd started my Harvard
00:26:48.800 application I got an email from the
00:26:50.740 admissions office with a typo in it
00:26:52.880 they used a comma wrong so they
00:26:54.860 didn't and I took that as a sign from
00:26:56.260 God that I shouldn't go there I I
00:26:59.180 pulled my application and my
00:27:00.800 interviewer there told me that I was
00:27:02.500 making the stupidest decision of my
00:27:03.940 life and yelled at me and everything
00:27:05.460 but I'm very glad I did it's it's
00:27:07.940 really sad to see Yale fall into a
00:27:09.540 total pit of despair right now but I
00:27:11.980 on this point as a broader point to
00:27:13.780 people who are going to college and
00:27:14.960 looking at colleges for themselves or
00:27:16.760 their kids I highly recommend going to
00:27:18.860 a left-wing school it will make you
00:27:20.520 smarter it will make you know what you
00:27:22.360 think it will make you think through
00:27:23.440 what you think iron sharpens iron or
00:27:26.260 whatever they say you know you really
00:27:27.820 do want to be around very smart
00:27:29.860 lefties you will have the
00:27:31.220 intellectual advantage over them
00:27:32.720 because you'll constantly have to
00:27:34.020 defend your ideas and you will you
00:27:37.260 will just figure yourself out more
00:27:39.840 figure out what ideas you have a
00:27:41.040 right figure out which ones are wrong
00:27:42.580 and disregard those and get a deeper
00:27:44.480 education I do really recommend it even
00:27:46.220 though it's kind of counterintuitive
00:27:47.180 from Andy hey Michael you answered a
00:27:49.980 question about one of my classes last
00:27:51.380 week and I've got another one I just
00:27:53.380 got assigned a group project where I
00:27:55.420 have to perform a nonviolent act in
00:27:57.220 support of a social justice issue
00:27:58.760 seeing as pretty much all of the social
00:28:00.700 justice issues we have discussed are
00:28:02.300 garbage I think I will join a group
00:28:04.300 that is doing gun control that I know
00:28:06.820 that I'm the only conservative in the
00:28:08.300 entire class and have managed to keep
00:28:10.240 my opinions to myself so far I just
00:28:11.920 can't bring myself to perform an act
00:28:13.200 that goes against my beliefs how do I
00:28:14.920 work with people that I know want
00:28:16.160 nothing less than gun confiscation and
00:28:17.840 even repeal of the second amendment
00:28:19.180 thanks Andy oh that's awful man you
00:28:22.420 should do a real social justice project
00:28:24.840 which would be to increase access to
00:28:28.380 firearms and to protect your
00:28:30.380 constitutionally protected civil right
00:28:32.080 to keep and bear arms or to defend the
00:28:34.780 unborn you could do an anti-abortion
00:28:36.380 project that would be real civil rights
00:28:38.340 you'd save a million babies a year that
00:28:40.820 term really comes out of Catholics the
00:28:43.560 social justice teachings of the 19th
00:28:45.480 century but it's not what it means
00:28:46.960 today when it started social justice
00:28:48.880 meant to do the common good it was a
00:28:50.600 response to industrialization said we
00:28:52.080 should do the common good this is what
00:28:53.620 Aristotle talks about this this is a
00:28:55.260 long-standing trend in the West the
00:28:57.000 trouble is when they divorced when the
00:28:59.100 social justice warriors when the SJWs
00:29:01.900 and the secular progressives decided to
00:29:03.940 divorce social justice from the thing
00:29:06.220 that made it social justice so they
00:29:08.100 divorced it from God and a teleological
00:29:09.980 vision of man like the traditional
00:29:13.260 more classical moral framework that
00:29:14.740 Aristotle is working in then you just
00:29:16.800 had this lefty nonsense and it's this
00:29:18.760 always it's the same thing with the
00:29:20.900 left they want the form of the thing
00:29:22.300 the appearance of the thing but not
00:29:23.760 that which animates it not the essence
00:29:25.400 of the thing itself so now now it just
00:29:27.840 means not justice we talk about that at
00:29:29.520 the Daily Wire all the time the left
00:29:30.980 is politically correct means not
00:29:32.620 correct social justice means not
00:29:34.640 justice I don't know I've always spoken
00:29:37.080 out on my politics from middle school
00:29:39.440 onward maybe it's hurt me in some ways
00:29:41.540 I'm always glad that I did it so I'd go
00:29:43.580 there and say I want to do a project on
00:29:44.780 pro-life I want to do a project to
00:29:46.220 protect the unborn and to make sure
00:29:47.700 that once those unborn babies are not
00:29:50.260 killed and they become adults we can
00:29:51.600 make sure they all have guns regardless
00:29:53.160 of their gender their their creed their
00:29:56.120 color of their skin or whatever make
00:29:58.180 sure they all have guns is that is a
00:29:59.820 civil right from Jeremy dear Andrew
00:30:02.440 Clavin no wait dear Ben Shapiro sorry
00:30:04.960 one more time dear Alicia Krauss well
00:30:07.220 whoever you are random guy who works in
00:30:09.060 the broom closet and gets nothing in
00:30:10.540 return for his work at the Daily Wire
00:30:12.060 except for the occasional freebie from
00:30:13.920 sponsors like Boland Branch or Movement
00:30:15.580 I was drinking my covefe this morning
00:30:18.020 and realized that my leftist tears
00:30:19.280 tumbler hot or cold is defective it is
00:30:22.460 not filling itself with leftist tears
00:30:24.080 as advertised and I would like to speak
00:30:25.960 to your manager soccer mom style what I
00:30:28.280 had to do to fill up my left my tumbler
00:30:30.400 with leftist tears was to go into the
00:30:32.040 bathroom look in the mirror and say
00:30:33.740 covefe three times then the unholy spirit
00:30:36.740 of a leftist who died because of Trump's
00:30:38.860 new tax plan started crying and my
00:30:40.920 tumbler was filled within seconds this
00:30:43.020 thing should really come with
00:30:44.460 instructions this was an informational
00:30:46.360 guide for the new subscribers thanks
00:30:48.220 Michael love the book keep at it
00:30:50.080 Jeremy P.S. tell Jeremy boring I said
00:30:53.280 hi great first name I'm gonna let that
00:30:57.860 one speak for itself that's an excellent
00:30:59.800 question really good stuff I really like
00:31:01.900 that question because it's not a
00:31:02.880 question from Justin dear Mr. Knowles
00:31:06.220 what do you think that people why do you
00:31:08.560 think that people choose to be or purport
00:31:10.480 to be pagans in modern times there's a
00:31:13.040 relatively large pagan community on
00:31:14.720 YouTube and they all seem to have a
00:31:16.080 rather negative view of Christianity to
00:31:17.600 say the least sincerely Justin yes this
00:31:19.920 is happening this is a strange thing
00:31:21.620 paganism is skyrocketing some people
00:31:23.780 are saying it's the fastest growing
00:31:25.040 religion in the world certainly the
00:31:27.360 fastest growing religion in Europe or in
00:31:29.180 the West according to religious studies
00:31:31.680 scholar Michael Strumiska he's got too
00:31:34.320 many consonants in his name Strumiska it
00:31:37.060 is quote a deliberate act of defiance
00:31:39.300 against traditional marriage he goes on to
00:31:43.380 write that it is against traditional
00:31:45.620 Christian dominated society and it allows
00:31:49.020 the people who hold these views to use it
00:31:51.580 as a source of pride and power neo-pagan
00:31:54.600 the phrase neo-pagan was first used in the
00:31:56.180 19th century by romantic and nationalist
00:31:58.960 writers in Europe this is when they were
00:32:00.720 referring to that classical revivalism that
00:32:02.740 Hellenic revivalism in part right now I think
00:32:07.100 people are becoming pagan or calling
00:32:08.640 themselves pagan as a response to
00:32:10.820 globalization because paganism is blood
00:32:13.280 and soil I've traveled to a number of
00:32:15.840 pagan countries and seen pagan religions
00:32:17.420 I've a lot of it has to do with race a lot
00:32:21.240 of it has to do with folk traditions this
00:32:23.220 is why by the way the alt-right is obsessed
00:32:25.100 with paganism this is why the alt-right is
00:32:27.800 wrong to the alt-right defends Western
00:32:30.820 Christendom but they don't believe in
00:32:32.920 Christianity and a number of leaders of
00:32:35.460 the alt-right or prominent people there
00:32:37.540 have told me they kind of like paganism
00:32:39.300 there's something kind of cool about
00:32:40.180 paganism this is just like the Nazis of
00:32:42.700 the past this is just like other fascists
00:32:44.660 they had this obsession with paganism
00:32:46.820 things that predate Christianity they say
00:32:48.880 Christianity is too effeminate it's too
00:32:50.540 universalist that Jesus he saves everybody
00:32:53.140 who believes in him that's no good it's
00:32:54.960 got to only be for one people some folk
00:32:57.160 tradition the alt-right mac daddy Alain de
00:32:59.660 Benoit criticizes Christianity and exalts
00:33:02.720 paganism in his work a manifesto de la
00:33:05.360 nouvelle droite the new right manifesto he
00:33:08.480 observes desacralization he blames
00:33:11.420 Christianity for that and also you
00:33:13.660 obviously see it on the right with those
00:33:14.820 crazy colored crazy color haired ladies you
00:33:19.560 know the purple hair and like they're
00:33:21.060 cooking up goats or something in a
00:33:23.180 cauldron and flying in on broomsticks in
00:33:25.500 the middle of the night this that's the
00:33:27.620 natural state of humanity paganism is the
00:33:29.600 natural state you see it in all of the
00:33:31.520 ancient texts you see it you see it in the
00:33:34.140 Bible it's I think that is where we go to
00:33:37.740 this kind of pantheistic paganistic
00:33:39.840 superstition atheists mock Christians for
00:33:43.440 being superstitious Christians are the least
00:33:45.200 superstitious people on earth it's the
00:33:47.240 absence of Christianity that calls that
00:33:49.100 causes superstition and right now we're
00:33:52.080 seeing a decline in Christianity in so
00:33:54.600 many places in the West we're seeing the
00:33:56.800 triumph of this boring tawdry shallow
00:34:00.900 materialism and so it's unsurprising that
00:34:03.460 we're reverting to our brutish pre
00:34:05.800 civilized state of paganism but hopefully
00:34:08.240 we can come out of that hopefully we can
00:34:09.420 get another revival sometime soon still
00:34:11.940 have a little bit more time Janine supreme
00:34:14.800 oh whatever hey Michael if my son
00:34:17.100 graduates high school I would like to
00:34:18.560 present him a nice glass of scotch and
00:34:20.100 cigar is there a good scotch and good
00:34:22.380 cigar for beginners I don't know is there a
00:34:24.880 bad scotch and cigar for beginners hey you're
00:34:26.880 pretty good on whatever you want my first
00:34:28.700 cigar was a cheap Cuban cigar called a
00:34:31.220 Guantanamera it's machine made so it's
00:34:33.680 not considered very nice but the tobacco
00:34:35.380 is very good so that I think starting with
00:34:38.240 a good cigar made me really like cigars
00:34:40.500 some people I know who were smoking you
00:34:43.080 know some cheap gas station cigar in the
00:34:45.820 back lot of the gymnasium or something they
00:34:48.740 didn't like cigars because their cigars
00:34:50.340 tasted like trash I recommend McAllen 12 or
00:34:53.220 johnny black is a good kind of starter scotch
00:34:55.620 that people like and I still love both of
00:34:58.240 those cigars and a cigar which is called
00:34:59.980 the avo number nine if you can't get your
00:35:02.140 hands on a Cuban avo number nine is a
00:35:04.520 wonderful cigar in the Davidoff family and
00:35:07.720 it's a little bit lighter but very complex it
00:35:10.640 hopefully won't turn your son green in the
00:35:12.220 face as happens sometimes but a really nice
00:35:15.260 cigar and you can get it at a reasonable
00:35:16.680 price from Ben hi Michael I have gasp a
00:35:20.400 Catholic question my mother is Catholic and
00:35:22.500 my father is Greek Orthodox they made the
00:35:24.460 decision to have my brother and me
00:35:25.940 baptized Orthodox though nowadays we do
00:35:28.340 attend Catholic mass with our mother as
00:35:30.820 I've seen now how both cultures and
00:35:33.980 churches approach the worship of God that
00:35:36.280 is how they differ in terms of religious
00:35:37.640 practice I've become more curious about
00:35:39.560 what the actual differences are between
00:35:41.400 the Orthodox and Catholic groups in terms
00:35:42.960 of belief you commented on this a few weeks
00:35:45.300 ago but I was hoping you could explain it
00:35:46.520 further thank you love the show yeah there
00:35:48.240 are very few differences and they there
00:35:50.240 there there is not a lot that separates
00:35:52.840 those two churches after the collapse of
00:35:56.420 the Roman Empire in 476 the eastern half of
00:35:59.800 the Empire continued as the Byzantine Empire
00:36:01.780 centered around Constantinople and that had
00:36:04.300 the patriarch of that city with jurisdiction
00:36:07.260 over the churches in Alexandria and Antioch
00:36:10.100 and Jerusalem and that patriarch served
00:36:12.480 under the Emperor the patriarch was legally
00:36:15.020 separate from the Emperor but the Emperor
00:36:16.700 exerted a lot of control as you might imagine
00:36:18.660 so practically speaking the patriarch served
00:36:21.020 at the leisure of the Emperor some claimed
00:36:24.040 some of the emperors of Byzantium claimed
00:36:26.280 equal authority to the 12 apostles and
00:36:28.760 therefore the power to appoint the patriarch
00:36:30.280 there was always that struggle between the
00:36:32.200 political and the political leader and
00:36:34.440 the patriarch the Emperor's muscle flexing
00:36:36.580 also is what frequently caused trouble with
00:36:38.640 Rome so Emperor Constantius appointed an
00:36:41.860 Arian heretic as patriarch in the fourth
00:36:44.260 century so of course Pope Julian being a good
00:36:47.040 Pope excommunicated that heretical patriarch
00:36:49.280 in 343 Constantine or Constantinople rather
00:36:54.260 remained in schism for about 50 years until
00:36:56.960 Saint John Chrysostom became the patriarch in
00:36:59.700 the east in 398 then fast forward a few
00:37:03.260 hundred years in the eighth century the
00:37:05.560 iconoclastic heresy sought to eliminate all
00:37:08.600 sacred images ironically it was the Pope and
00:37:12.420 the Western bishops who fought to preserve the
00:37:14.760 veneration of icons and images but even though
00:37:18.060 today now that veneration of icons is far more
00:37:20.440 prominent in the Eastern liturgy so the
00:37:22.780 Eastern Orthodox can thank the Pope for that
00:37:24.380 in 1054 this is what's called the great
00:37:26.840 schism but it really wasn't the East and West
00:37:28.840 started moving politically apart after the
00:37:31.040 Norman conquest of Southern Italy it wasn't
00:37:34.020 really the great schism that we refer to it that
00:37:36.200 way the Catholic Normans took over the Byzantine
00:37:39.020 right Greek outposts in Southern Italy and they
00:37:42.100 forced all the Greek communities to start using
00:37:44.100 the Latin right custom of eating unleavened bread
00:37:47.200 for the Eucharist instead of leavened bread this
00:37:49.940 was the great disagreement do we want flat
00:37:52.100 bread or thick bread for this Eucharist but it
00:37:55.360 really ticked a lot of people off so Patriarch
00:37:57.740 Serularius retaliated by ordering all Latin
00:38:01.700 right communities in Constantinople to use
00:38:03.920 leavened bread so we said all right you're going to
00:38:05.380 make my guys eat unleavened bread I'm going to
00:38:07.380 make your guys eat like focaccia or something
00:38:09.480 latins refused to do that so Serularius closed
00:38:14.060 their churches and sent an angry letter to
00:38:16.500 Pope Leo IX the Pope then sent three guys led
00:38:20.020 by Cardinal Humbert to patch things up and this
00:38:22.760 was a very terrible idea because both Humbert and
00:38:25.880 Serularius were mercurial personalities they were
00:38:28.800 kind of jerks they left and so Humbert then laid a
00:38:32.900 bull of excommunication against Serularius on the
00:38:36.220 altar of the Hagia Sophia Serularius then retaliated
00:38:39.300 by anathemizing Humbert though he didn't anathemize the
00:38:42.540 Roman the Roman and Western church itself the thing is
00:38:46.300 here that bull that excommunicated Serularius was
00:38:49.900 probably not legit and the reason we think this is
00:38:52.500 because Pope Leo IX was dead by the time that Humbert laid
00:38:55.460 it and the timing doesn't quite work out Byzantium also never
00:38:59.180 attacked the Pope or the Latin church itself so people say
00:39:02.400 there was this great schism in 1054 it didn't really
00:39:04.280 happen only in 1453 centuries later four centuries later
00:39:08.360 approximately when Muslim invaders finally sacked Byzantium did
00:39:12.780 the Eastern church repudiate their relationship with Rome that
00:39:16.480 that actual schism only happened because the Muslim invaders
00:39:19.680 pressured them to do it also interesting is that the schism the
00:39:23.780 actual schism only predates the Protestant revolution by about
00:39:26.920 six decades so that timing was pretty close the only real
00:39:30.360 theological disagreement between the east and the west is the
00:39:33.180 filioque and and they obviously there's some issues with
00:39:37.060 deferring to the the Pope that's always been a political
00:39:39.200 struggle but the the filioque the filioque is that the spirit
00:39:44.160 proceeds from the father and the son Spanish Catholic bishops
00:39:47.300 added that to the Nicene Creed in the 6th century the Holy Spirit
00:39:51.620 proceeds from the father and the son the Eastern Orthodox say two
00:39:55.960 things on this matter they say either that the spirit proceeds
00:39:58.820 only from the father through the son or that it proceeds from the
00:40:03.400 father and the son but the Pope had no right to clarify this in
00:40:06.480 the 6th century are you asleep yet me too earliest church fathers
00:40:10.300 do imply that the spirit proceeds from the father as well as the
00:40:13.800 son but this is mostly a distinction without a difference again this
00:40:17.960 this alleged dispute that we're talking about this big theological
00:40:21.000 dispute only arose after Muslims forced the Eastern Orthodox to
00:40:25.040 repudiate Rome so I don't really buy it plus everything the father has
00:40:29.220 come everything the son has comes from the father as we know so the two
00:40:33.320 statements are they're basically complimentary and and through it's
00:40:38.700 they're complimentary statements not much of a difference one hopes for
00:40:41.940 reconciliation I've heard it described as the east and west being the lungs of
00:40:45.920 the church the two lungs of the church the east has generally a better
00:40:49.460 liturgy these days they don't have any of those damn acoustic guitars and
00:40:52.820 eagles wings and you know the 70s nonsense the west obviously has far more
00:40:57.360 authority and the west beat back the Muslim hordes from Europe on at least
00:41:01.400 three separate occasions rather than giving into them like the east so pick
00:41:05.680 your church I picked mine think I said they're both good I'm I'm really not
00:41:09.680 disparaging the Eastern Orthodox they have such a beautiful liturgy but you
00:41:13.780 know one of them has the authority man come on and one of them you know has
00:41:16.680 maintained Christendom for 2,000 years so you know just just saying from
00:41:20.220 Benjamin Pope Knowles thank you finally for using my title I'm like the
00:41:24.340 anti-pope for something there was the Avignon papacy maybe I'm the LA one is
00:41:29.200 there a real distinction in Catholicism between sins of weakness such as
00:41:32.940 premarital fornication and sins of malice such as deliberately hurting
00:41:36.800 somebody I was having a discussion with a non-denominational friend of mine the
00:41:40.860 other day and he put he put any sin willfully committed on the same plane would
00:41:47.080 having relations with my fiance knowing it was wrong carry the same weight as say
00:41:52.020 making fun of someone who's disabled please note that I'm not trying to
00:41:55.440 justify my own behaviors yeah sure buddy and these scenarios are hypothetical
00:41:59.560 whatever helps you sleep at night well at least the latter one mostly the
00:42:03.040 former thanks Ben yeah of course there are gradations of sin of course that's
00:42:07.880 true there are there are mortal and venial sins this is best illustrated in
00:42:11.780 Dante where Dante goes down the circles of hell and at the top are the
00:42:15.100 virtuous pagans like you know Virgil and all those guys who are pretty good guys
00:42:19.100 they just didn't have hope they didn't believe in Jesus and at the bottom are
00:42:22.600 the deceivers Brutus and Cassius and like the worst people that ever lived
00:42:26.240 lots of Protestants who deny this point to James who says whoever keeps the whole
00:42:32.720 law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it this is sort of ironic
00:42:37.540 because the Protestants don't really like James that much broadly speaking Luther
00:42:42.440 didn't like James at all but you know they like so uh we do know from first
00:42:47.240 John 5 17 who tells us all wrongdoing is sin but there is sin which is not mortal
00:42:53.200 right um so yeah they'll Luther and his acolytes didn't have a lot of respect for
00:42:59.000 James seems a little like picking and choosing to me but as James says we all
00:43:03.020 stumble in many ways Christ himself describes these gradations he says the
00:43:08.240 servant who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what
00:43:12.820 the master wants will be beaten with many blows but the one who does not know
00:43:17.260 and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows from everyone
00:43:22.160 who has been given much much more will be demanded and from the one who has been
00:43:26.160 entrusted with much much more will be asked we also see this in Matthew this is
00:43:30.320 throughout scripture James is writing uh of course he's right in that uh he's saying someone
00:43:37.900 who breaks one law becomes a criminal so if you have broken the law you have broken the
00:43:44.900 law as a whole uh but this comes from the sermon of the mount right you know you say
00:43:49.700 do not commit adultery but if you look at a woman with lust you've committed adultery
00:43:53.520 in your heart so if one has even broken the least law he has broken the law and therefore
00:43:59.200 he needs forgiveness and mercy and to be merciful as well we shouldn't take verbal wizardry into the
00:44:04.360 forbidden land of the sophists to say that this repudiates the vision of dante or john or christ
00:44:09.400 himself in describing the varying gradations of sin which we all know to be true uh from bud
00:44:15.340 dear father knowles i've been demoted i went from pope now i'm father dear father knowles i recently
00:44:20.300 had a discussion with an atheist co-worker about the existence of god his content we got it we're gonna
00:44:25.640 have to end it on this one i think uh his contention is that an omniscient god who is good would never
00:44:30.820 create the earth and human beings knowing that there would be such pain and suffering throughout
00:44:35.420 the ages basically why would god ever create mankind in the first place i told him i would
00:44:40.680 consult my spiritual advisor and get back to him oh man that's a lot i that's a lot of burden
00:44:46.580 i i usually just sit here and sip covfefe and drink but i'll try to take this on also what are
00:44:51.140 your thoughts on the traditional latin mass thanks david well i'll take the last one first
00:44:55.600 because it's a little clearer uh i love it i attend it often i recommend everybody attend it often too
00:45:01.480 it's really lovely and it's much better than the acoustic guitars um to your first question how would
00:45:07.520 you describe the greatest possible world would the greatest possible world be perfect uh then then if
00:45:14.660 the greatest possible world is perfect it would have to be a world without freedom and we've seen
00:45:18.660 worlds without freedom and those worlds look a lot like hell uh freedom can be pretty awful we see
00:45:24.200 this in romans 5 12 adam is a is free he has freedom and he sins he disobeys and that brings
00:45:32.140 sin and death into the world and that brings sin and death to all of mankind freedom can be pretty
00:45:37.920 tough man um it's possible that the greatest world is one of freedom and misery rather than
00:45:44.900 unconscious perfection i could sort of see that you say well if we were just all robots who weren't
00:45:49.280 conscious how would that be a perfect world there wouldn't be humans in any way that we could think
00:45:54.120 about humans so you could say well even with total misery even with eventual misery what the world of
00:45:59.760 freedom might still be the best possible world but it's still a miserable world right what about a
00:46:06.140 world of incarnation and atonement what if god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son
00:46:11.460 that whosoever believes in him might not perish but might have everlasting life what if that son
00:46:16.860 became incarnate of the holy spirit born of the virgin mary and became man and what if he fulfilled
00:46:21.780 all of the law and the prophets in perfect humility and was murdered perfectly to atone for his fellow
00:46:26.820 man for no greater love has a man than to die for his friends and what if his perfect death even
00:46:31.880 death on a cross conquered death itself freed man from his infinite debt redeemed an irredeemable
00:46:37.780 debt resolved a financial problem of debt incurred by the finite against the infinite which therefore
00:46:44.200 can only be paid by the infinite creditor creator himself and gave man for the first and final time
00:46:51.360 a reason to hope and joy and abundance that sounds like the greatest possible world to me
00:46:57.080 all right that's our show i'm michael knowles this is the michael knowles show if you want even more
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