The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 122 - Hey, Remember The Middle East？ ft. Maj. Scott Huesing

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00:00:30.900 Hey, remember the Middle East?

00:00:33.500 We've been talking a lot about China

00:00:34.960 and, of course, Russia, you know,

00:00:36.580 which is controlling all of America 0.64

00:00:38.060 and probably all of the world,

00:00:39.660 but President Trump has just fired

00:00:41.720 his Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson.

00:00:43.820 Whatever happened to the Middle East? 0.82

00:00:45.100 What, why aren't we talking about the Middle East?

00:00:47.500 You know, the place that we have been fighting

00:00:48.800 the longest war in U.S. history

00:00:50.020 for the entirety of the century.

00:00:51.540 Today, we will be joined by Major Scott Husing,

00:00:53.680 a retired U.S. Marine infantry officer

00:00:55.940 and author of Echo and Ramadi,

00:00:57.920 the first-hand story of U.S. Marines

00:01:00.040 in Iraq's deadliest city.

00:01:01.680 Major Husing has served 24 years

00:01:03.220 of honorable service,

00:01:04.580 both enlisted and commissioned,

00:01:05.940 and his career has spanned 10 deployments

00:01:08.060 in over 60 countries.

00:01:10.040 Scott will explain why he's glad Tillerson is fired

00:01:12.400 and, more broadly, America's role

00:01:14.280 in that godforsaken sandbox

00:01:15.780 between Europe and Asia.

00:01:17.280 Then, the mailbag.

00:01:18.420 I'm Michael Knowles,

00:01:19.240 and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:20.360 Beware, beware the Ides of March,

00:01:30.180 Mr. Tillerson.

00:01:31.220 Those Ides of March took him down,

00:01:32.860 unfortunately, I guess a few days early.

00:01:35.240 But, we were going to bring on Major Tillerson.

00:01:38.080 Major Tillerson.

00:01:39.520 No, he's fired Tillerson.

00:01:41.380 Fired Secretary of State Tillerson,

00:01:42.920 Major Husing.

00:01:43.660 But, before we do that,

00:01:44.500 we have got to talk about sleep.

00:01:46.040 Clearly, I haven't gotten enough sleep last night.

00:01:48.400 It is true.

00:01:49.040 We actually, we were here at The Daily Wire,

00:01:51.340 you know, having stogies and scotches

00:01:53.600 and all this thing very late.

00:01:55.900 And, you know me.

00:01:56.660 I need at least, what, 19 hours of sleep a night?

00:01:59.340 Otherwise, I don't function.

00:02:00.620 I just don't feel fresh.

00:02:01.640 I don't feel like me.

00:02:02.700 Sleep is very important.

00:02:03.700 People always cheap out on this.

00:02:05.100 It's very stupid to do that.

00:02:07.100 You spend at least a third of your life

00:02:09.120 sleeping, on average.

00:02:10.720 And, for me, you spend at least four-fifths of it.

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00:02:19.820 Guess what?

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00:02:22.380 I've moved around a lot from New York

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00:02:25.720 I always just sell my mattress

00:02:26.940 because it's too hard to move it, you know.

00:02:28.460 And then I go to a mattress store

00:02:29.660 and I got to go into the shop

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00:02:37.700 And it's just a real hassle.

00:02:39.520 You know me.

00:02:39.940 I don't even like to leave my chair,

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00:03:16.240 I'm getting married kind of soon.

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00:04:21.240 Okay, let's bring on

00:04:22.340 Major Husing.

00:04:23.560 Scott, thank you so much

00:04:24.560 for being here.

00:04:25.620 Hey, it's my pleasure

00:04:26.220 to be on the program, Michael.

00:04:28.020 So to begin,

00:04:29.000 you wrote an op-ed

00:04:29.760 a few weeks ago

00:04:30.600 criticizing Rex Tillerson's plan

00:04:33.060 to give $3 billion

00:04:34.540 of American aid to Iraq.

00:04:36.780 The semi-sovereign nation

00:04:38.380 of Iraq,

00:04:38.940 as you write in your book,

00:04:40.460 is requesting $80 billion

00:04:41.980 in handouts

00:04:43.020 to rebuild the country.

00:04:44.560 Tillerson wanted

00:04:45.300 to allocate $3 billion

00:04:46.740 of U.S. taxpayer money.

00:04:48.980 You say it's not

00:04:49.540 a very good idea.

00:04:50.220 Why is that?

00:04:52.340 Well, having spent

00:04:53.460 the majority of my adult life

00:04:54.940 not sleeping,

00:04:55.780 but fighting in Iraq

00:04:57.300 and other places

00:04:58.220 in the world,

00:04:59.420 you know,

00:05:00.100 when I read that piece,

00:05:01.500 it just galled me

00:05:02.260 a little bit.

00:05:02.780 And my book,

00:05:04.180 Echo and Armadi,

00:05:04.800 is not political.

00:05:06.560 It doesn't take

00:05:07.520 one side or the other.

00:05:08.480 It's a story about,

00:05:09.400 you know,

00:05:10.540 the Marines

00:05:11.240 and the soldiers

00:05:11.860 and the families

00:05:12.500 that supported us.

00:05:13.460 But, you know,

00:05:14.400 you can't help but look back

00:05:15.660 and when you see

00:05:16.180 something like that

00:05:16.960 in mainstream media

00:05:18.340 and that's coming up

00:05:19.360 in the news,

00:05:19.840 I'm still very connected

00:05:20.760 to the Marine Corps

00:05:21.320 as I sit here

00:05:22.240 on Marine Corps base,

00:05:23.800 Camp Pendleton,

00:05:24.720 you know,

00:05:25.680 doing an interview

00:05:26.680 with some of my Marines today.

00:05:29.020 You know,

00:05:29.600 it strikes

00:05:30.400 at the heart

00:05:32.200 of everything we did

00:05:33.080 and oftentimes

00:05:33.520 I get asked the question,

00:05:34.880 you know,

00:05:35.060 hey,

00:05:35.280 did you win in Ramadi?

00:05:37.220 Did you win in Iraq?

00:05:38.320 And, you know,

00:05:38.760 we never had a bumper sticker,

00:05:40.300 Michael,

00:05:40.540 that said,

00:05:41.120 do this and you'll win.

00:05:43.280 Obviously,

00:05:43.860 killing more bad guys

00:05:45.540 was an effective way

00:05:46.620 to win

00:05:47.580 and, you know,

00:05:48.240 a metric of success,

00:05:49.500 but the true metric

00:05:50.180 was bringing

00:05:51.260 as many Marines

00:05:51.980 home alive as possible.

00:05:53.140 And when I see

00:05:55.340 our diplomatic corps,

00:05:58.240 our current administration

00:05:59.660 willing to write checks blindly

00:06:02.280 to rebuild a country

00:06:03.920 that has such a poor track record

00:06:05.900 of one,

00:06:06.820 embracing change

00:06:07.800 and two,

00:06:09.180 being good stewards

00:06:10.240 of the money

00:06:10.780 that they're given

00:06:11.540 and the unwillingness

00:06:13.080 to move forward,

00:06:14.400 it really bothers me

00:06:15.620 because a lot of people

00:06:17.160 will say,

00:06:17.840 thank you for your service

00:06:18.820 and they look at service members

00:06:20.120 and they say,

00:06:20.920 oh yeah,

00:06:21.340 my money's paying your salary.

00:06:22.920 Well, service members

00:06:23.820 pay taxes too.

00:06:25.500 So it's everybody's money

00:06:26.640 that's being invested.

00:06:27.280 When those people say that,

00:06:28.280 do you get to just

00:06:28.860 punch them in the face?

00:06:30.060 That is outrageous.

00:06:31.520 I do not.

00:06:32.420 Well,

00:06:32.900 we should do it for you.

00:06:35.440 No,

00:06:35.940 but you're doing a great job

00:06:37.000 because great programs

00:06:38.120 like you guys

00:06:39.160 allow people

00:06:41.020 that have served

00:06:42.060 to provide an understanding

00:06:43.940 to the general American people

00:06:45.300 about,

00:06:46.300 one,

00:06:46.600 what it means to sacrifice

00:06:47.800 and two,

00:06:48.540 what it means to serve your country.

00:06:50.120 And those that are serving,

00:06:51.400 they're not only

00:06:52.000 getting the worst salaries

00:06:53.600 of most Americans,

00:06:54.600 but they're paying taxes too.

00:06:57.020 So,

00:06:57.040 you know,

00:06:57.940 for someone that's spent

00:06:58.740 24 years in the Marine Corps

00:06:59.980 and that still pays

00:07:00.940 his fair share of taxes

00:07:01.860 more than most

00:07:02.600 as a Californian,

00:07:03.960 you know,

00:07:04.820 it does,

00:07:05.400 it does,

00:07:05.800 I do take exception

00:07:06.700 when we don't have

00:07:08.060 the right people

00:07:09.860 in the right job

00:07:10.840 for the right reason.

00:07:11.840 And I will never

00:07:12.820 applaud one side

00:07:14.560 or the other,

00:07:15.080 like,

00:07:15.400 hey,

00:07:15.520 I never like to see

00:07:16.360 anyone lose their job

00:07:17.460 or get fired

00:07:18.040 and I,

00:07:18.480 you know,

00:07:19.020 make it a President Trump

00:07:20.880 cliche from his apprentice days

00:07:22.740 of you're fired.

00:07:23.980 But I think we do need

00:07:25.760 the right type of leadership

00:07:26.860 in those positions,

00:07:28.120 not only at Department of State,

00:07:30.060 but also at Department of Defense.

00:07:32.560 So there's this synergy

00:07:34.860 between all of those

00:07:36.340 government organizations

00:07:37.180 that are making

00:07:37.800 the right decisions

00:07:38.780 for our troops

00:07:40.380 and for all Americans

00:07:41.440 that are in the best interest.

00:07:43.120 You know,

00:07:43.380 the book is really good.

00:07:44.360 I was reading it this morning

00:07:45.740 when I was sipping my covfefe

00:07:48.280 and preparing for the interview

00:07:49.800 and it's really,

00:07:50.500 really good.

00:07:50.920 And you write in the book

00:07:52.300 that you had two objectives

00:07:54.080 in Ramadi,

00:07:55.240 which is to bring your guys home

00:07:57.260 and to kill the bad guys.

00:07:58.720 And sometimes you just want

00:07:59.600 to focus on bringing

00:08:00.360 your guys home,

00:08:01.160 but obviously those two things

00:08:03.420 go together.

00:08:04.000 And as a matter of it

00:08:05.220 not being partisan,

00:08:06.480 not being political,

00:08:07.860 the Iraq war remains

00:08:09.180 uncomfortable for Democrats

00:08:10.860 and for Republicans.

00:08:12.560 It's so varied.

00:08:13.800 The invasion was

00:08:14.640 a spectacular success.

00:08:16.300 The occupation

00:08:17.000 seemed mismanaged

00:08:18.320 out of Washington.

00:08:19.440 The 2007 troop surge

00:08:20.900 was opposed

00:08:21.920 by just about everybody

00:08:22.960 other than George W. Bush.

00:08:24.300 Then it was later supported

00:08:25.500 by just about everybody,

00:08:27.020 including Barack Obama

00:08:28.060 and Hillary Clinton. 0.98

00:08:29.060 And then Barack Obama

00:08:29.980 decided to lose a war

00:08:30.960 that we'd already won.

00:08:32.480 First of all,

00:08:33.300 how does that summary hold up?

00:08:34.420 But more broadly,

00:08:35.360 as somebody who

00:08:36.180 has experienced

00:08:37.160 so much of it firsthand,

00:08:39.100 how do you think

00:08:39.820 about the Iraq war

00:08:40.760 now 15 years

00:08:41.760 after the invasion?

00:08:42.480 I think the summary

00:08:43.580 is absolutely correct.

00:08:45.960 You articulated it

00:08:47.080 and summarized it very well.

00:08:49.280 And as a member

00:08:50.420 of the surge strategy,

00:08:52.100 as Echo and Ramadi

00:08:53.760 has written,

00:08:54.240 we were part of that

00:08:54.940 in 2006 and 2007

00:08:56.580 to flood the battle space

00:08:58.500 with additional troops

00:08:59.500 to bring peace

00:09:01.000 and stability

00:09:01.480 to that country.

00:09:02.900 And we did that.

00:09:03.820 That's why I always say

00:09:04.660 to veterans

00:09:05.580 who question themselves,

00:09:06.680 you know,

00:09:06.800 did we win or lose?

00:09:07.640 Again, we won.

00:09:08.800 We absolutely won.

00:09:09.860 And where we failed

00:09:10.880 was we took off

00:09:12.480 the iron fist

00:09:13.760 way too soon

00:09:14.640 to slip on that

00:09:15.480 velvet glove proverbial.

00:09:17.740 And, you know,

00:09:18.860 we handed it back

00:09:19.700 over to the Iraqis. 0.78

00:09:20.920 And I'll use

00:09:21.420 what I know best.

00:09:22.640 My battalion

00:09:23.600 fought in 2004

00:09:25.120 in the first battle

00:09:25.980 of Ramadi.

00:09:26.600 And then two years later,

00:09:28.340 the battalion

00:09:28.840 was back again.

00:09:30.020 And it's because

00:09:30.900 we handed it back

00:09:31.600 over to a country

00:09:32.360 that wasn't

00:09:33.700 established.

00:09:34.960 They didn't have security.

00:09:36.540 They didn't have stability.

00:09:37.520 And there was no continuity

00:09:38.720 within this government

00:09:39.660 to truly and effectively

00:09:41.940 take care of the problems

00:09:43.480 of not only diplomacy,

00:09:45.040 but infrastructure

00:09:45.880 and support

00:09:46.700 that are really required

00:09:47.820 to make it happen.

00:09:48.800 And that's not an

00:09:49.500 that's not a indictment

00:09:51.420 on the Iraqi people.

00:09:52.780 But if we're going to

00:09:53.860 continue to give them money,

00:09:55.120 if we're going to continue

00:09:56.000 to provide troops

00:09:57.580 and support and service,

00:09:58.540 which we are, Michael,

00:09:59.900 and that's something

00:10:00.560 your listeners

00:10:01.080 and all Americans

00:10:01.960 need to know

00:10:02.540 is that there are currently

00:10:03.660 Marines and soldiers

00:10:04.580 fighting in Iraq today

00:10:05.900 and Afghanistan

00:10:07.120 and the Horn of Africa.

00:10:08.880 And if we continue

00:10:09.560 to do this

00:10:10.380 without a solid plan

00:10:12.240 to rebuild those countries

00:10:13.760 and be good students

00:10:15.140 of the of the lessons

00:10:16.220 we learned in history

00:10:16.960 in the Pacific theater

00:10:17.920 and in the European theater

00:10:19.540 after World War II,

00:10:20.620 we're going to continue

00:10:21.660 to be tripping

00:10:23.140 on our own shoes.

00:10:24.780 You know, you

00:10:25.300 you were a lance corporal

00:10:26.620 in Desert Storm

00:10:27.460 as you write in the book.

00:10:28.540 You've had a long career

00:10:29.540 in the military.

00:10:31.000 How has the culture

00:10:32.200 of the military,

00:10:33.140 the management

00:10:33.660 of the military,

00:10:34.420 civilians perceptions

00:10:35.980 of the military

00:10:36.840 changed over your

00:10:38.580 quarter century of service

00:10:39.720 and maybe even

00:10:40.660 a longer period

00:10:41.520 as you say

00:10:42.360 as a student of history?

00:10:43.760 Well, I think it's changed

00:10:44.560 for the better.

00:10:45.640 I didn't,

00:10:46.480 I didn't see any

00:10:47.500 of the negative effects

00:10:48.520 like our Vietnam

00:10:49.660 era veterans did

00:10:51.180 and to any Vietnam vets

00:10:52.900 watching or listening

00:10:53.800 to the program,

00:10:54.320 I say welcome home.

00:10:55.400 We love you guys

00:10:56.360 and for the,

00:10:58.280 the latter generations,

00:11:00.000 even as a young enlisted guy

00:11:02.000 back in Desert Storm

00:11:03.360 through my time

00:11:04.880 as a,

00:11:05.220 as a major

00:11:05.760 when I retired in 2013,

00:11:07.140 the American perception

00:11:09.780 is great.

00:11:11.000 They love to support

00:11:12.380 their vets

00:11:12.980 and, you know,

00:11:14.040 but I say it's,

00:11:14.860 it's not just a bumper sticker.

00:11:16.240 You really got to put

00:11:16.900 some skin in the game.

00:11:18.520 You need to reach out.

00:11:20.100 You need to support

00:11:21.120 with your services

00:11:22.400 or,

00:11:23.060 or connect to a great nonprofit

00:11:25.160 and really help

00:11:26.600 because it's not just a bumper.

00:11:27.940 You can't just throw

00:11:28.520 that bumper sticker

00:11:29.120 on your car

00:11:29.520 and say,

00:11:29.780 I support vets.

00:11:30.620 Well, what does that mean?

00:11:32.120 Because without some,

00:11:33.800 some ability to measure that,

00:11:36.240 you know,

00:11:37.560 I really can't,

00:11:38.660 I really can't understand

00:11:39.920 what their intent is.

00:11:41.160 But at the end of the day,

00:11:42.320 every,

00:11:42.740 every American that walks up to me

00:11:44.060 or any other veteran says,

00:11:45.020 thank you for your service.

00:11:46.060 It means a lot to me.

00:11:47.180 It means a lot to every veteran.

00:11:48.380 So in the absence

00:11:49.460 of not knowing what to do,

00:11:51.040 just start there.

00:11:52.060 It's a great way to start.

00:11:52.580 It's a good place to start.

00:11:54.380 So Major Husing,

00:11:55.500 we have a few more questions for you,

00:11:57.020 but before I get to them,

00:11:58.400 I just noticed the time

00:12:00.200 on my movement watch.

00:12:01.260 So I have to talk

00:12:02.100 about movement watches

00:12:02.960 because they help us

00:12:03.620 keep the lights on here

00:12:04.600 and they are so sleek

00:12:05.900 and they are so cool.

00:12:07.900 You've all heard me

00:12:08.740 talk about movement.

00:12:10.440 It is a watch company

00:12:11.520 started by two college dropouts.

00:12:13.660 The company has grown

00:12:14.780 insanely fast.

00:12:16.440 They have to keep updating

00:12:17.700 the copy

00:12:18.260 because they keep selling

00:12:19.340 so many watches.

00:12:20.340 So they've sold now

00:12:21.380 almost 2 million watches

00:12:22.960 in 160 plus countries.

00:12:25.660 They continue to revolutionize

00:12:27.280 fashion on the belief

00:12:28.300 that style shouldn't

00:12:29.400 break the bank.

00:12:30.420 I don't know if you've

00:12:31.140 checked out the site lately.

00:12:32.100 They keep adding

00:12:32.780 new watch styles.

00:12:33.940 They've doubled

00:12:34.440 their number of watch styles.

00:12:35.880 They're still expanding.

00:12:37.180 This one,

00:12:37.720 I have a couple movement watches.

00:12:39.400 This one is my favorite.

00:12:40.420 I think it's called the Atlas.

00:12:42.100 It's part of the Revolver collection.

00:12:43.820 Super cool.

00:12:44.700 They call it,

00:12:45.240 I think it's like

00:12:45.960 retro futuristic.

00:12:47.400 It seems like a contradiction,

00:12:48.680 but it looks super cool.

00:12:49.700 It's got a nice

00:12:50.860 minimalist style,

00:12:52.400 very modern style,

00:12:53.200 and yet it's in a case

00:12:54.520 that you could think

00:12:55.140 comes out of the 50s

00:12:56.020 or the 60s.

00:12:56.960 Really, really great product.

00:12:58.860 They've come a long way

00:12:59.920 since being crowdfunded

00:13:00.940 out of a living room.

00:13:02.820 They have introduced

00:13:03.800 a ton of new collections

00:13:04.880 for men and women.

00:13:05.760 They've also expanded

00:13:06.640 into sunglasses

00:13:07.720 and fashion forward bracelets

00:13:09.600 for her or him,

00:13:11.260 you know, or him, man.

00:13:12.120 It's 2018.

00:13:13.120 We're all a little

00:13:13.680 metro these days,

00:13:14.800 a little metro and retro.

00:13:16.000 So they have a lot

00:13:17.060 of styles here.

00:13:18.640 I've got one

00:13:19.660 for sweet little Elisa.

00:13:21.080 I really like these watches.

00:13:22.460 It's all about looking good

00:13:23.820 and keeping it simple.

00:13:24.680 If you're a guy,

00:13:25.460 come on,

00:13:25.940 you might not be

00:13:26.640 an American hero

00:13:27.420 like Major Husing,

00:13:28.600 but you, you know,

00:13:29.460 you can at least get

00:13:30.120 to your meetings on time.

00:13:31.140 You can at least show up

00:13:32.500 where you're supposed to be

00:13:33.420 and pretend that you have a job.

00:13:34.860 So the Movement watches

00:13:35.940 started just $95.

00:13:38.200 Look, if you went

00:13:38.980 to a department store,

00:13:40.000 I love watches.

00:13:41.440 I've owned a lot of watches

00:13:42.980 and I always like to wear them.

00:13:44.840 If you go to a department store,

00:13:46.000 you're going to pay

00:13:46.320 $400 or $500

00:13:46.880 for a watch of this quality.

00:13:49.520 Movement figured out

00:13:50.320 that by selling online,

00:13:51.200 they were able to cut out

00:13:51.840 the middleman.

00:13:52.740 And retail markup

00:13:53.540 providing the best possible price,

00:13:55.560 classic design,

00:13:56.380 quality construction,

00:13:57.680 and styled minimalism.

00:13:59.700 You know, look,

00:14:00.500 I'm a big fan

00:14:01.080 of styled minimalism.

00:14:02.240 I've made any sort of career

00:14:04.020 I have on minimalism.

00:14:05.440 And so you might want

00:14:06.540 to bring that

00:14:06.920 from your literary pursuits

00:14:07.940 also over to watches.

00:14:09.920 Get 15% off today

00:14:11.540 with free shipping

00:14:12.720 and free returns.

00:14:13.560 There is no reason

00:14:14.540 not to do it

00:14:15.120 by going to

00:14:15.760 mvmt.com

00:14:17.240 slash

00:14:17.620 covfefe,

00:14:18.520 c-o-v-f-e-f-e. 1.00

00:14:20.340 There are no syllables

00:14:21.260 in movement,

00:14:22.360 but there are syllables

00:14:23.460 in covfefe.

00:14:24.280 Try to keep that in your head.

00:14:25.280 You're smart.

00:14:25.840 You'll be able

00:14:26.160 to figure it out.

00:14:26.700 mvmt.com

00:14:28.920 slash

00:14:29.280 covfefe,

00:14:30.060 c-o-v-f-e-f-e. 1.00

00:14:31.200 See why movement

00:14:31.760 keeps growing.

00:14:32.680 Check out their

00:14:33.100 expanding collection.

00:14:34.860 Join the movement.

00:14:36.660 All right.

00:14:37.640 Back to you,

00:14:38.080 Major Husing.

00:14:38.860 During World War II,

00:14:40.520 12% of Americans

00:14:41.940 served in the armed forces.

00:14:43.680 Today,

00:14:44.000 that number has dropped

00:14:44.820 to 0.4%.

00:14:46.220 In 1975,

00:14:47.920 70% of congressmen

00:14:49.500 had served

00:14:49.920 in the military.

00:14:50.900 Today,

00:14:51.180 that number

00:14:51.480 is down to 20%.

00:14:52.460 7.3% of Americans

00:14:54.900 alive today

00:14:55.520 have served

00:14:56.180 in the military

00:14:56.700 at some point

00:14:57.320 in their lives

00:14:57.800 and just a little

00:14:58.580 over 5%

00:14:59.400 have served

00:15:00.280 during wartime.

00:15:01.940 Is there too great

00:15:02.960 a division

00:15:03.520 between Americans

00:15:04.460 and the people

00:15:05.480 who fight

00:15:06.020 to protect our freedom?

00:15:07.340 Would it benefit

00:15:07.980 the U.S.

00:15:08.720 to mandate

00:15:09.400 some sort of

00:15:10.420 military or civil service

00:15:12.020 and would that

00:15:12.720 even be politically

00:15:13.740 possible these days?

00:15:15.640 I don't think

00:15:16.240 that's necessarily

00:15:17.080 the answer

00:15:17.720 because with

00:15:18.540 our all-volunteer service,

00:15:20.020 we absolutely

00:15:20.800 have the

00:15:21.920 best

00:15:23.040 service members,

00:15:25.120 we have the

00:15:25.480 best equipment

00:15:26.240 and yeah,

00:15:28.140 there's room

00:15:28.800 for improvements

00:15:29.480 with some

00:15:29.900 of our programs

00:15:30.720 and a lot

00:15:31.760 of the large

00:15:32.180 service vessels

00:15:32.900 and aircraft

00:15:33.480 but these young

00:15:35.240 men and women

00:15:35.680 get the best training,

00:15:37.220 they have the best

00:15:37.760 leadership

00:15:38.160 that they have

00:15:39.160 to offer

00:15:39.440 and they come

00:15:39.860 from families

00:15:40.660 in America

00:15:41.740 that raise

00:15:42.860 these people

00:15:44.560 who are willing

00:15:45.900 to raise their hand

00:15:46.840 and make a sacrifice

00:15:47.940 and serve their country.

00:15:49.220 It is,

00:15:49.800 it's less than

00:15:50.360 one half of 1%

00:15:51.380 of 330 million people

00:15:53.200 so making it mandatory,

00:15:55.300 no,

00:15:55.480 I don't think

00:15:55.860 that's the answer.

00:15:57.560 Do I think

00:15:57.960 there's a divide

00:15:58.820 between the generations

00:16:00.620 who are serving

00:16:01.900 in Congress

00:16:02.480 or elected officials?

00:16:03.980 Absolutely

00:16:04.420 and I'd love

00:16:05.620 to be back

00:16:06.020 on your program

00:16:06.520 to talk about

00:16:07.020 an op-ed I got

00:16:07.600 coming out next week

00:16:08.500 about our

00:16:09.620 millennial generation

00:16:10.600 because I'm here

00:16:11.820 to tell you

00:16:12.140 I'm a fan

00:16:12.600 and I think

00:16:13.280 you probably

00:16:13.680 may fall into

00:16:14.340 that group.

00:16:14.780 I think

00:16:15.900 I sort of like

00:16:17.560 them because

00:16:18.060 I'm part of them.

00:16:19.120 I think you might

00:16:19.760 be the only guy

00:16:20.480 in the country

00:16:21.000 though

00:16:21.260 who likes

00:16:21.840 the millennials.

00:16:22.460 They get so much

00:16:23.260 so maligned

00:16:24.600 in the press.

00:16:26.020 Well,

00:16:26.300 I'll let you

00:16:27.020 read the article

00:16:27.660 and hear my opinion

00:16:29.040 on it

00:16:29.340 but I think

00:16:30.120 that there's

00:16:30.880 a big disconnect

00:16:31.660 and a lot

00:16:32.660 of underestimation

00:16:34.900 by every

00:16:35.700 elder generation

00:16:36.940 that doesn't

00:16:37.680 understand

00:16:38.140 each generation

00:16:39.640 has its own

00:16:40.440 form of greatness

00:16:41.240 and I never

00:16:41.900 diminish that

00:16:42.760 because I've

00:16:43.620 heard that

00:16:43.960 throughout the

00:16:44.420 years

00:16:44.760 through my

00:16:45.360 24 years

00:16:46.600 in the Marine

00:16:47.240 Corps.

00:16:48.060 I'm sure

00:16:48.580 the Vietnam

00:16:49.020 vets said

00:16:49.600 that about

00:16:50.060 us before

00:16:50.620 we went

00:16:51.020 into Iraq.

00:16:51.780 Guess what?

00:16:52.180 We proved

00:16:52.540 them wrong

00:16:52.900 and we will

00:16:54.380 continue to do

00:16:55.160 that so I

00:16:55.700 want them

00:16:56.160 to understand

00:16:57.140 your listeners

00:16:58.040 and to those

00:16:59.100 serving have

00:17:00.100 faith because

00:17:01.040 they will prove

00:17:02.240 you wrong

00:17:02.620 ultimately because

00:17:03.400 we're Americans

00:17:04.560 and we do a lot

00:17:05.880 of things great

00:17:06.640 and our nation's

00:17:08.380 military is an 0.90

00:17:09.420 extreme example

00:17:10.680 of the greatness

00:17:11.560 of this country

00:17:12.260 because it

00:17:14.060 takes a lot

00:17:14.780 to do what

00:17:15.860 these young

00:17:16.240 men and women

00:17:16.700 do.

00:17:17.680 That is such

00:17:18.840 a good point

00:17:19.320 because we

00:17:19.920 frequently think

00:17:21.040 of these

00:17:21.820 you know

00:17:22.160 these millennials

00:17:22.780 ordering avocado

00:17:23.820 toast for

00:17:24.400 $37 and

00:17:25.840 changing their

00:17:26.440 gender every

00:17:27.120 third Tuesday

00:17:27.880 of the month

00:17:28.520 and you know

00:17:29.300 it gets a

00:17:29.780 little bit much

00:17:30.420 and we kind

00:17:30.760 of malign them 0.87

00:17:31.360 but these

00:17:31.980 are extremes

00:17:32.660 that you see

00:17:33.340 on the news

00:17:34.400 headlines and

00:17:35.580 there are still

00:17:36.380 great people

00:17:37.000 there is still

00:17:37.440 greatness in the

00:17:38.000 country on the

00:17:39.460 kind of difficult

00:17:41.160 side of this

00:17:41.780 you write a lot

00:17:42.720 in the book

00:17:43.100 about post

00:17:43.640 traumatic stress

00:17:44.500 I know a lot

00:17:45.800 of veterans

00:17:46.200 commit suicide

00:17:46.920 or they attempt

00:17:47.480 suicide after

00:17:48.160 leaving the

00:17:48.600 service

00:17:48.860 I had a viewer

00:17:49.640 write in to me

00:17:50.400 to say that he

00:17:51.300 and other veterans

00:17:52.060 he knew

00:17:52.600 he and other

00:17:53.560 veterans

00:17:53.940 had attempted

00:17:54.660 suicide

00:17:55.160 just to be

00:17:56.300 admitted to

00:17:56.860 the VA mental

00:17:57.620 ward where they

00:17:58.600 could find some

00:17:59.400 regimentation

00:18:00.200 and three hots

00:18:01.100 and a cot

00:18:01.580 is there any

00:18:02.940 public policy

00:18:04.140 that you can

00:18:05.580 imagine that

00:18:06.340 congress could pass

00:18:07.340 or that maybe

00:18:08.580 the civil society

00:18:10.340 and the

00:18:10.740 non-governmental

00:18:11.560 organizations

00:18:12.380 could put

00:18:13.000 forward

00:18:13.420 that would

00:18:13.980 alleviate

00:18:14.580 PTSD among

00:18:15.560 veterans

00:18:15.900 well I think

00:18:16.900 you know

00:18:17.520 I was talking

00:18:18.140 to a good

00:18:18.540 friend of mine

00:18:19.180 and fellow author

00:18:20.160 Robert Verr

00:18:20.720 about this

00:18:21.320 driving back

00:18:22.840 from LA

00:18:23.400 and seeing a

00:18:25.020 couple of those

00:18:25.420 mattresses on

00:18:26.060 Sepulveda

00:18:26.500 but you know

00:18:29.540 you first have to

00:18:30.320 frame the problem

00:18:31.160 and you know

00:18:32.040 is suicide the

00:18:33.600 problem or the

00:18:34.360 result of a problem

00:18:35.320 is you know

00:18:36.000 the problem

00:18:36.560 isolation or a

00:18:38.140 feeling of

00:18:38.580 hopelessness

00:18:39.280 and all of

00:18:39.840 those things

00:18:40.380 that those

00:18:42.200 series of

00:18:43.800 traumatic events

00:18:44.800 that these young

00:18:45.560 men and women

00:18:46.000 experienced during

00:18:46.820 combat or whatever

00:18:48.000 whatever their

00:18:48.660 trauma is I don't

00:18:49.540 say my trauma is

00:18:50.360 any worse than

00:18:50.940 your trauma or

00:18:51.580 better but those

00:18:52.800 traumatic events

00:18:53.540 lead to a sense

00:18:56.020 of hopelessness

00:18:56.820 and how do you

00:18:57.540 cure hopelessness

00:18:58.600 and through my

00:18:59.760 writing and through

00:19:00.700 my connection with

00:19:01.840 veterans organizations

00:19:02.760 and being the

00:19:03.360 executive director

00:19:03.960 Save the Brave

00:19:04.620 One of the ways

00:19:06.220 we do that is

00:19:07.000 through connecting

00:19:07.600 veterans and

00:19:08.520 connecting people

00:19:09.300 who are feeling

00:19:10.420 hopeless before

00:19:12.780 they get to that

00:19:13.920 complete isolation

00:19:15.800 where they think

00:19:17.080 this is my only

00:19:18.260 solution is taking

00:19:19.340 my own life and

00:19:20.480 sometimes even

00:19:21.080 that's not enough

00:19:22.260 because there's a

00:19:23.480 lot of times we've

00:19:24.220 lost guys and

00:19:25.820 women that you 1.00

00:19:27.980 just never see it

00:19:28.840 coming and all you

00:19:29.840 can do is really

00:19:30.540 try and help but

00:19:31.700 to say that

00:19:32.740 private

00:19:33.320 privatization of

00:19:34.880 the VA system

00:19:36.120 or the VA

00:19:36.760 health care system

00:19:37.680 is the only

00:19:38.480 answer I think

00:19:39.800 there's probably a

00:19:40.520 hybrid somewhere in 0.95

00:19:41.440 there that is the

00:19:42.040 answer but you

00:19:44.060 know it again it's

00:19:45.520 not some bumper

00:19:46.220 sticker Michael it's

00:19:47.100 not some 22 push-up

00:19:48.520 challenge on Facebook

00:19:49.300 these are real

00:19:50.540 people these are my

00:19:52.380 brothers their sons

00:19:53.700 and daughters of 0.56

00:19:54.660 Americans that

00:19:55.460 they're taking their

00:19:56.080 own lives and if

00:19:57.640 you can see over my

00:19:58.620 right shoulder you

00:19:59.840 know those are the

00:20:00.300 names of the brothers

00:20:01.100 and sisters and 0.96

00:20:02.120 soldiers and Marines

00:20:03.040 that we lost in this

00:20:05.520 long war as I sit

00:20:07.000 here at our memorial

00:20:07.720 at Camp Pendleton

00:20:08.380 but there's no

00:20:09.860 memorial no granite

00:20:11.520 pillars for the

00:20:12.380 almost 50,000 veterans

00:20:14.620 that take their own

00:20:15.480 lives from the effects

00:20:16.660 of post-traumatic stress

00:20:17.660 in this country and

00:20:18.540 those numbers may be

00:20:20.580 even higher because

00:20:21.800 the only numbers we

00:20:22.680 see are the ones that

00:20:23.340 are reported from

00:20:23.860 active duty service

00:20:24.640 members through the

00:20:25.360 DOD and that's a

00:20:26.660 staggering fact so

00:20:28.260 there's a lot of ways

00:20:29.340 to help absolutely

00:20:31.060 as a fan of less

00:20:32.380 government you know

00:20:33.780 you know being

00:20:35.060 conservative I

00:20:36.040 absolutely think

00:20:37.260 there's other things

00:20:38.060 they could be doing

00:20:38.820 but individuals can

00:20:41.040 help and there's

00:20:41.660 there's ways to help

00:20:42.320 that's why a portion

00:20:43.800 of the proceeds of

00:20:44.660 sales of my book

00:20:45.620 Echoing Ramadi go to

00:20:47.200 Save the Brave to

00:20:48.040 help veterans with

00:20:48.780 post-traumatic stress

00:20:49.620 because for me it's

00:20:51.400 all about helping

00:20:52.500 each other and we

00:20:53.240 continue to stay

00:20:54.280 connected even to

00:20:55.580 this day long after

00:20:56.500 we left the

00:20:56.980 battlefield and that's

00:20:57.880 what's important

00:20:58.420 that's such an

00:21:00.340 important point

00:21:00.980 because we can say

00:21:02.040 we need to reform

00:21:02.680 the VA of course we

00:21:03.500 need to reform the

00:21:04.140 VA we can say there

00:21:05.260 need to be non-profit

00:21:06.660 organizations that can

00:21:07.620 help and you should go

00:21:08.460 out and help and that

00:21:09.260 of course is true but

00:21:10.520 post-traumatic stress is

00:21:11.620 nothing new shell shock

00:21:13.200 has been around for a

00:21:14.500 very long time and

00:21:15.620 you're dealing with

00:21:16.340 people you're dealing

00:21:17.020 with a complex group of

00:21:19.120 people and unfortunately

00:21:20.860 evil does breed these

00:21:23.400 awful events in the

00:21:24.460 world and there isn't

00:21:25.860 some utopian solution

00:21:26.980 there's no bumper

00:21:27.600 sticker that's going to

00:21:28.380 end it and you really

00:21:29.800 need some compassion

00:21:31.000 and some empathy and

00:21:31.940 to to live with people

00:21:33.240 on the final point this

00:21:35.080 is the the main point I

00:21:36.180 want to talk to you

00:21:36.760 about because we've

00:21:37.280 talked so much on this

00:21:38.860 program and in the news

00:21:39.840 about China and Russia

00:21:41.340 as you know Donald Trump

00:21:42.620 is secretly Boris from

00:21:44.260 Rocky and Bullwinkle and

00:21:45.820 apparently the whole time

00:21:46.740 we've known him for 40

00:21:48.080 years as a celebrity and a

00:21:49.220 business tycoon he was

00:21:50.320 really a Manchurian

00:21:51.240 candidate for Moscow of

00:21:52.660 course you know this has

00:21:53.580 been reported widely what

00:21:55.580 should the US role in the

00:21:57.100 Middle East be moving 1.00

00:21:58.580 forward not China not 0.62

00:22:00.020 Russia the Middle East

00:22:00.980 well again I get asked

00:22:05.060 that question a lot you

00:22:06.560 know and it goes back to

00:22:08.040 the original the point you

00:22:09.200 know did we win and I they

00:22:11.740 say do you feel that your

00:22:13.220 sacrifices and that and the

00:22:14.860 Marines and and sailors you

00:22:16.880 lost over there were all for

00:22:18.420 not and I say no because

00:22:20.860 Marines don't fight policy they

00:22:23.920 don't fight politics or we

00:22:25.600 fight the enemy and that's

00:22:27.180 what my guys did day in and

00:22:28.380 day out fighting five six

00:22:29.760 seven times a day day and

00:22:31.520 day out they fought and

00:22:32.880 killed the enemy so they 0.85

00:22:35.160 won but do I think we

00:22:37.480 should again been better

00:22:38.580 stewards and established a

00:22:40.180 firm presence in the Middle

00:22:41.260 East so we didn't have to 0.96

00:22:42.820 look into our crystal ball and

00:22:43.880 say you know what I bet

00:22:45.160 we're gonna be back here in

00:22:46.020 10 years and in May of 2015

00:22:48.020 history proved us right and

00:22:50.120 I'm no I'm no gypsy Michael 0.94

00:22:51.900 but ISIS took hold in the

00:22:54.400 Middle East in 2015 and

00:22:56.440 where did they take hold

00:22:57.500 Ramadi because it's the 0.99

00:22:59.280 capital of Al-Ambar province

00:23:00.660 it was key terrain then just

00:23:02.640 as is key terrain now and I

00:23:04.540 don't think anybody needs to

00:23:05.660 be a political scientist but

00:23:07.720 for those of us that that

00:23:09.040 fought and bled and and and

00:23:11.400 lost our brothers and sisters

00:23:12.780 on the battlefield we knew

00:23:14.780 that if we didn't have a firm

00:23:17.260 presence in the Middle East

00:23:18.500 we'd ultimately be back there

00:23:19.800 because we're the guys that

00:23:21.700 have to show them what right

00:23:22.840 looks like until we step up

00:23:24.880 and until our political system

00:23:27.300 and our industrial and

00:23:29.200 economic leaders in this

00:23:30.980 country step up and show

00:23:32.740 them what right looks like

00:23:33.660 they're going to continue to

00:23:35.240 wallow in how they think it

00:23:37.600 should be done to establish

00:23:38.980 whatever form of democracy

00:23:40.500 they want and I'm not trying

00:23:42.580 to impose the American system

00:23:43.940 on them but they should come

00:23:45.260 up with their own so we don't 0.98

00:23:46.260 continually have to go back

00:23:47.380 there and try and fix their

00:23:48.320 problem and clean it up

00:23:49.280 yeah yeah absolutely yeah

00:23:51.240 absolutely but at the end of

00:23:53.180 the day Marines will always 1.00

00:23:54.660 you know do what Marines do

00:23:56.080 best and that's taking care of

00:23:57.240 those that can't help

00:23:58.300 themselves and if those are the

00:24:00.040 orders of the any president

00:24:02.340 of the United States the Marines

00:24:03.320 will respond that's such a good

00:24:05.340 point we frequently hear oh

00:24:07.720 let's just get out of there we've

00:24:08.760 been there too long we've been

00:24:09.800 there long enough but the

00:24:11.020 lesson of the previous

00:24:12.360 presidential administration is

00:24:13.720 you you're going to have to go

00:24:15.200 back and clean it up again if

00:24:16.600 you don't do it right if you

00:24:17.540 don't have the courage to do

00:24:18.380 it right Major Scott Husing

00:24:20.680 first thank you for your

00:24:21.840 service second thank you for

00:24:23.120 your book the book is very

00:24:24.700 good I recommend everybody to

00:24:26.360 get it Echo and Ramadi the

00:24:27.760 first-hand story of US Marines

00:24:29.800 in Iraq's deadliest city it's a

00:24:31.620 really gripping account and an

00:24:33.180 account that the 99.5% of

00:24:36.180 Americans who are not currently in

00:24:37.940 the military all ought to read

00:24:39.300 Major Husing thank you for being

00:24:41.240 here when we're gonna have to

00:24:42.080 have you back to talk about

00:24:42.940 your next op-ed yeah I'd love it

00:24:44.760 anytime you want me on the

00:24:45.700 program I'd love to be back

00:24:46.700 thanks Michael all right thank

00:24:48.180 you Scott you're telling me I

00:24:50.800 got I have such a good mailbag

00:24:52.300 today and you're telling me I

00:24:53.940 have to say goodbye you are

00:24:55.540 sick monsters and sadists all of

00:24:58.340 you we have to say goodbye if

00:25:00.300 you're on YouTube no you're not

00:25:01.280 but if you're on Facebook you've

00:25:02.740 got to go to dailywire.com go to

00:25:05.280 Daily Wire right now what do you

00:25:06.720 get you get me you get the

00:25:08.020 Andrew Klavan show you get the

00:25:08.840 Ben Shapiro show it's $10 a

00:25:10.740 month or $100 for an annual

00:25:12.040 membership you'll get the

00:25:13.180 conversation yeah yeah

00:25:14.740 blah blah blah blah blah the

00:25:17.780 leftist tears tumblr look at the

00:25:20.660 leftist tears tumblr there is so

00:25:22.200 much going on there has been so

00:25:23.840 much rending of garments on

00:25:25.920 Twitter these days you've seen

00:25:28.000 you know I don't know if you've

00:25:29.000 been paying attention to the gun

00:25:30.380 control debate I don't know if

00:25:31.440 you've been paying attention to

00:25:32.460 where they said there was gonna

00:25:33.340 be that trade war it's gonna

00:25:34.280 destroy the global economy it's

00:25:35.420 all gonna go down but it didn't

00:25:37.100 didn't happen did it didn't

00:25:38.400 happen and so this is gonna fill

00:25:39.740 up you're gonna need the only FDA

00:25:41.560 approved vessel to store your

00:25:43.180 leftist tears or they could

00:25:44.260 become radioactive and destroy

00:25:45.820 your whole family possibly major

00:25:47.220 U.S. cities yeah you're a leftist

00:25:49.100 tears tumblr at dailywire.com we

00:25:50.640 will be right back with the mailbag

00:25:51.960 we're low on time so we're gonna

00:26:04.340 fly through these today these are

00:26:05.760 gonna be all of the important

00:26:06.780 questions we're gonna fly right

00:26:07.880 from Ivan dear Michael why did you

00:26:11.260 decide to attend Yale and what

00:26:13.700 other universities and colleges

00:26:15.000 did you apply to I decided to

00:26:17.040 attend Yale because I am an actor

00:26:19.540 and I've always really liked

00:26:20.620 politics and at Yale they do both

00:26:23.600 and they've got a lot of people who

00:26:26.040 have done very well in both I also

00:26:27.620 get a kick out of being a

00:26:29.460 conservative at a very lefty place

00:26:31.340 you know Yale produced Buckley in

00:26:32.800 the bushes and there's there's this

00:26:34.660 kind of much maligned conservative

00:26:37.420 movement that keeps coming out of

00:26:38.700 Yale I actually didn't really apply

00:26:41.260 to other colleges I applied early

00:26:43.700 and then I started applications at a

00:26:45.220 couple of other places I received an

00:26:47.580 email I'd started my Harvard

00:26:48.800 application I got an email from the

00:26:50.740 admissions office with a typo in it

00:26:52.880 they used a comma wrong so they

00:26:54.860 didn't and I took that as a sign from

00:26:56.260 God that I shouldn't go there I I

00:26:59.180 pulled my application and my

00:27:00.800 interviewer there told me that I was

00:27:02.500 making the stupidest decision of my

00:27:03.940 life and yelled at me and everything

00:27:05.460 but I'm very glad I did it's it's

00:27:07.940 really sad to see Yale fall into a

00:27:09.540 total pit of despair right now but I

00:27:11.980 on this point as a broader point to

00:27:13.780 people who are going to college and

00:27:14.960 looking at colleges for themselves or

00:27:16.760 their kids I highly recommend going to

00:27:18.860 a left-wing school it will make you

00:27:20.520 smarter it will make you know what you

00:27:22.360 think it will make you think through

00:27:23.440 what you think iron sharpens iron or

00:27:26.260 whatever they say you know you really

00:27:27.820 do want to be around very smart

00:27:29.860 lefties you will have the

00:27:31.220 intellectual advantage over them

00:27:32.720 because you'll constantly have to

00:27:34.020 defend your ideas and you will you

00:27:37.260 will just figure yourself out more

00:27:39.840 figure out what ideas you have a

00:27:41.040 right figure out which ones are wrong

00:27:42.580 and disregard those and get a deeper

00:27:44.480 education I do really recommend it even

00:27:46.220 though it's kind of counterintuitive

00:27:47.180 from Andy hey Michael you answered a

00:27:49.980 question about one of my classes last

00:27:51.380 week and I've got another one I just

00:27:53.380 got assigned a group project where I

00:27:55.420 have to perform a nonviolent act in

00:27:57.220 support of a social justice issue

00:27:58.760 seeing as pretty much all of the social

00:28:00.700 justice issues we have discussed are

00:28:02.300 garbage I think I will join a group

00:28:04.300 that is doing gun control that I know

00:28:06.820 that I'm the only conservative in the

00:28:08.300 entire class and have managed to keep

00:28:10.240 my opinions to myself so far I just

00:28:11.920 can't bring myself to perform an act

00:28:13.200 that goes against my beliefs how do I

00:28:14.920 work with people that I know want

00:28:16.160 nothing less than gun confiscation and

00:28:17.840 even repeal of the second amendment

00:28:19.180 thanks Andy oh that's awful man you

00:28:22.420 should do a real social justice project

00:28:24.840 which would be to increase access to

00:28:28.380 firearms and to protect your

00:28:30.380 constitutionally protected civil right

00:28:32.080 to keep and bear arms or to defend the

00:28:34.780 unborn you could do an anti-abortion

00:28:36.380 project that would be real civil rights

00:28:38.340 you'd save a million babies a year that

00:28:40.820 term really comes out of Catholics the 0.98

00:28:43.560 social justice teachings of the 19th

00:28:45.480 century but it's not what it means

00:28:46.960 today when it started social justice

00:28:48.880 meant to do the common good it was a

00:28:50.600 response to industrialization said we

00:28:52.080 should do the common good this is what

00:28:53.620 Aristotle talks about this this is a

00:28:55.260 long-standing trend in the West the

00:28:57.000 trouble is when they divorced when the

00:28:59.100 social justice warriors when the SJWs 0.69

00:29:01.900 and the secular progressives decided to

00:29:03.940 divorce social justice from the thing

00:29:06.220 that made it social justice so they

00:29:08.100 divorced it from God and a teleological

00:29:09.980 vision of man like the traditional

00:29:13.260 more classical moral framework that

00:29:14.740 Aristotle is working in then you just

00:29:16.800 had this lefty nonsense and it's this

00:29:18.760 always it's the same thing with the

00:29:20.900 left they want the form of the thing

00:29:22.300 the appearance of the thing but not

00:29:23.760 that which animates it not the essence

00:29:25.400 of the thing itself so now now it just

00:29:27.840 means not justice we talk about that at

00:29:29.520 the Daily Wire all the time the left

00:29:30.980 is politically correct means not

00:29:32.620 correct social justice means not

00:29:34.640 justice I don't know I've always spoken

00:29:37.080 out on my politics from middle school

00:29:39.440 onward maybe it's hurt me in some ways

00:29:41.540 I'm always glad that I did it so I'd go

00:29:43.580 there and say I want to do a project on

00:29:44.780 pro-life I want to do a project to

00:29:46.220 protect the unborn and to make sure

00:29:47.700 that once those unborn babies are not 0.94

00:29:50.260 killed and they become adults we can 0.98

00:29:51.600 make sure they all have guns regardless

00:29:53.160 of their gender their their creed their

00:29:56.120 color of their skin or whatever make

00:29:58.180 sure they all have guns is that is a

00:29:59.820 civil right from Jeremy dear Andrew

00:30:02.440 Clavin no wait dear Ben Shapiro sorry

00:30:04.960 one more time dear Alicia Krauss well

00:30:07.220 whoever you are random guy who works in

00:30:09.060 the broom closet and gets nothing in

00:30:10.540 return for his work at the Daily Wire

00:30:12.060 except for the occasional freebie from

00:30:13.920 sponsors like Boland Branch or Movement

00:30:15.580 I was drinking my covefe this morning

00:30:18.020 and realized that my leftist tears

00:30:19.280 tumbler hot or cold is defective it is

00:30:22.460 not filling itself with leftist tears

00:30:24.080 as advertised and I would like to speak

00:30:25.960 to your manager soccer mom style what I

00:30:28.280 had to do to fill up my left my tumbler

00:30:30.400 with leftist tears was to go into the

00:30:32.040 bathroom look in the mirror and say

00:30:33.740 covefe three times then the unholy spirit

00:30:36.740 of a leftist who died because of Trump's

00:30:38.860 new tax plan started crying and my

00:30:40.920 tumbler was filled within seconds this

00:30:43.020 thing should really come with

00:30:44.460 instructions this was an informational

00:30:46.360 guide for the new subscribers thanks

00:30:48.220 Michael love the book keep at it

00:30:50.080 Jeremy P.S. tell Jeremy boring I said

00:30:53.280 hi great first name I'm gonna let that

00:30:57.860 one speak for itself that's an excellent

00:30:59.800 question really good stuff I really like

00:31:01.900 that question because it's not a

00:31:02.880 question from Justin dear Mr. Knowles

00:31:06.220 what do you think that people why do you

00:31:08.560 think that people choose to be or purport

00:31:10.480 to be pagans in modern times there's a

00:31:13.040 relatively large pagan community on

00:31:14.720 YouTube and they all seem to have a

00:31:16.080 rather negative view of Christianity to

00:31:17.600 say the least sincerely Justin yes this

00:31:19.920 is happening this is a strange thing

00:31:21.620 paganism is skyrocketing some people

00:31:23.780 are saying it's the fastest growing

00:31:25.040 religion in the world certainly the 0.99

00:31:27.360 fastest growing religion in Europe or in

00:31:29.180 the West according to religious studies

00:31:31.680 scholar Michael Strumiska he's got too

00:31:34.320 many consonants in his name Strumiska it

00:31:37.060 is quote a deliberate act of defiance

00:31:39.300 against traditional marriage he goes on to

00:31:43.380 write that it is against traditional

00:31:45.620 Christian dominated society and it allows 0.98

00:31:49.020 the people who hold these views to use it

00:31:51.580 as a source of pride and power neo-pagan 0.82

00:31:54.600 the phrase neo-pagan was first used in the

00:31:56.180 19th century by romantic and nationalist

00:31:58.960 writers in Europe this is when they were

00:32:00.720 referring to that classical revivalism that

00:32:02.740 Hellenic revivalism in part right now I think

00:32:07.100 people are becoming pagan or calling

00:32:08.640 themselves pagan as a response to

00:32:10.820 globalization because paganism is blood 0.78

00:32:13.280 and soil I've traveled to a number of

00:32:15.840 pagan countries and seen pagan religions

00:32:17.420 I've a lot of it has to do with race a lot

00:32:21.240 of it has to do with folk traditions this

00:32:23.220 is why by the way the alt-right is obsessed

00:32:25.100 with paganism this is why the alt-right is

00:32:27.800 wrong to the alt-right defends Western

00:32:30.820 Christendom but they don't believe in

00:32:32.920 Christianity and a number of leaders of

00:32:35.460 the alt-right or prominent people there

00:32:37.540 have told me they kind of like paganism

00:32:39.300 there's something kind of cool about

00:32:40.180 paganism this is just like the Nazis of 0.92

00:32:42.700 the past this is just like other fascists

00:32:44.660 they had this obsession with paganism

00:32:46.820 things that predate Christianity they say

00:32:48.880 Christianity is too effeminate it's too 1.00

00:32:50.540 universalist that Jesus he saves everybody

00:32:53.140 who believes in him that's no good it's

00:32:54.960 got to only be for one people some folk

00:32:57.160 tradition the alt-right mac daddy Alain de

00:32:59.660 Benoit criticizes Christianity and exalts

00:33:02.720 paganism in his work a manifesto de la

00:33:05.360 nouvelle droite the new right manifesto he

00:33:08.480 observes desacralization he blames

00:33:11.420 Christianity for that and also you

00:33:13.660 obviously see it on the right with those

00:33:14.820 crazy colored crazy color haired ladies you 1.00

00:33:19.560 know the purple hair and like they're

00:33:21.060 cooking up goats or something in a

00:33:23.180 cauldron and flying in on broomsticks in

00:33:25.500 the middle of the night this that's the

00:33:27.620 natural state of humanity paganism is the

00:33:29.600 natural state you see it in all of the

00:33:31.520 ancient texts you see it you see it in the

00:33:34.140 Bible it's I think that is where we go to

00:33:37.740 this kind of pantheistic paganistic

00:33:39.840 superstition atheists mock Christians for 0.99

00:33:43.440 being superstitious Christians are the least 1.00

00:33:45.200 superstitious people on earth it's the

00:33:47.240 absence of Christianity that calls that

00:33:49.100 causes superstition and right now we're

00:33:52.080 seeing a decline in Christianity in so

00:33:54.600 many places in the West we're seeing the

00:33:56.800 triumph of this boring tawdry shallow

00:34:00.900 materialism and so it's unsurprising that

00:34:03.460 we're reverting to our brutish pre

00:34:05.800 civilized state of paganism but hopefully 0.64

00:34:08.240 we can come out of that hopefully we can

00:34:09.420 get another revival sometime soon still

00:34:11.940 have a little bit more time Janine supreme

00:34:14.800 oh whatever hey Michael if my son

00:34:17.100 graduates high school I would like to

00:34:18.560 present him a nice glass of scotch and

00:34:20.100 cigar is there a good scotch and good

00:34:22.380 cigar for beginners I don't know is there a

00:34:24.880 bad scotch and cigar for beginners hey you're

00:34:26.880 pretty good on whatever you want my first

00:34:28.700 cigar was a cheap Cuban cigar called a

00:34:31.220 Guantanamera it's machine made so it's

00:34:33.680 not considered very nice but the tobacco

00:34:35.380 is very good so that I think starting with

00:34:38.240 a good cigar made me really like cigars

00:34:40.500 some people I know who were smoking you

00:34:43.080 know some cheap gas station cigar in the

00:34:45.820 back lot of the gymnasium or something they

00:34:48.740 didn't like cigars because their cigars

00:34:50.340 tasted like trash I recommend McAllen 12 or

00:34:53.220 johnny black is a good kind of starter scotch

00:34:55.620 that people like and I still love both of

00:34:58.240 those cigars and a cigar which is called

00:34:59.980 the avo number nine if you can't get your

00:35:02.140 hands on a Cuban avo number nine is a

00:35:04.520 wonderful cigar in the Davidoff family and

00:35:07.720 it's a little bit lighter but very complex it

00:35:10.640 hopefully won't turn your son green in the

00:35:12.220 face as happens sometimes but a really nice

00:35:15.260 cigar and you can get it at a reasonable

00:35:16.680 price from Ben hi Michael I have gasp a

00:35:20.400 Catholic question my mother is Catholic and

00:35:22.500 my father is Greek Orthodox they made the

00:35:24.460 decision to have my brother and me

00:35:25.940 baptized Orthodox though nowadays we do

00:35:28.340 attend Catholic mass with our mother as

00:35:30.820 I've seen now how both cultures and

00:35:33.980 churches approach the worship of God that

00:35:36.280 is how they differ in terms of religious

00:35:37.640 practice I've become more curious about

00:35:39.560 what the actual differences are between

00:35:41.400 the Orthodox and Catholic groups in terms

00:35:42.960 of belief you commented on this a few weeks

00:35:45.300 ago but I was hoping you could explain it

00:35:46.520 further thank you love the show yeah there

00:35:48.240 are very few differences and they there

00:35:50.240 there there is not a lot that separates

00:35:52.840 those two churches after the collapse of

00:35:56.420 the Roman Empire in 476 the eastern half of

00:35:59.800 the Empire continued as the Byzantine Empire 0.56

00:36:01.780 centered around Constantinople and that had

00:36:04.300 the patriarch of that city with jurisdiction

00:36:07.260 over the churches in Alexandria and Antioch

00:36:10.100 and Jerusalem and that patriarch served

00:36:12.480 under the Emperor the patriarch was legally

00:36:15.020 separate from the Emperor but the Emperor

00:36:16.700 exerted a lot of control as you might imagine

00:36:18.660 so practically speaking the patriarch served

00:36:21.020 at the leisure of the Emperor some claimed

00:36:24.040 some of the emperors of Byzantium claimed

00:36:26.280 equal authority to the 12 apostles and

00:36:28.760 therefore the power to appoint the patriarch

00:36:30.280 there was always that struggle between the

00:36:32.200 political and the political leader and

00:36:34.440 the patriarch the Emperor's muscle flexing

00:36:36.580 also is what frequently caused trouble with

00:36:38.640 Rome so Emperor Constantius appointed an

00:36:41.860 Arian heretic as patriarch in the fourth 0.99

00:36:44.260 century so of course Pope Julian being a good

00:36:47.040 Pope excommunicated that heretical patriarch 1.00

00:36:49.280 in 343 Constantine or Constantinople rather

00:36:54.260 remained in schism for about 50 years until

00:36:56.960 Saint John Chrysostom became the patriarch in

00:36:59.700 the east in 398 then fast forward a few

00:37:03.260 hundred years in the eighth century the

00:37:05.560 iconoclastic heresy sought to eliminate all

00:37:08.600 sacred images ironically it was the Pope and

00:37:12.420 the Western bishops who fought to preserve the

00:37:14.760 veneration of icons and images but even though

00:37:18.060 today now that veneration of icons is far more

00:37:20.440 prominent in the Eastern liturgy so the

00:37:22.780 Eastern Orthodox can thank the Pope for that

00:37:24.380 in 1054 this is what's called the great

00:37:26.840 schism but it really wasn't the East and West

00:37:28.840 started moving politically apart after the

00:37:31.040 Norman conquest of Southern Italy it wasn't 0.94

00:37:34.020 really the great schism that we refer to it that

00:37:36.200 way the Catholic Normans took over the Byzantine 0.87

00:37:39.020 right Greek outposts in Southern Italy and they

00:37:42.100 forced all the Greek communities to start using 1.00

00:37:44.100 the Latin right custom of eating unleavened bread

00:37:47.200 for the Eucharist instead of leavened bread this

00:37:49.940 was the great disagreement do we want flat

00:37:52.100 bread or thick bread for this Eucharist but it

00:37:55.360 really ticked a lot of people off so Patriarch

00:37:57.740 Serularius retaliated by ordering all Latin 0.99

00:38:01.700 right communities in Constantinople to use

00:38:03.920 leavened bread so we said all right you're going to

00:38:05.380 make my guys eat unleavened bread I'm going to

00:38:07.380 make your guys eat like focaccia or something

00:38:09.480 latins refused to do that so Serularius closed

00:38:14.060 their churches and sent an angry letter to

00:38:16.500 Pope Leo IX the Pope then sent three guys led

00:38:20.020 by Cardinal Humbert to patch things up and this

00:38:22.760 was a very terrible idea because both Humbert and

00:38:25.880 Serularius were mercurial personalities they were 1.00

00:38:28.800 kind of jerks they left and so Humbert then laid a

00:38:32.900 bull of excommunication against Serularius on the

00:38:36.220 altar of the Hagia Sophia Serularius then retaliated

00:38:39.300 by anathemizing Humbert though he didn't anathemize the

00:38:42.540 Roman the Roman and Western church itself the thing is

00:38:46.300 here that bull that excommunicated Serularius was

00:38:49.900 probably not legit and the reason we think this is

00:38:52.500 because Pope Leo IX was dead by the time that Humbert laid

00:38:55.460 it and the timing doesn't quite work out Byzantium also never

00:38:59.180 attacked the Pope or the Latin church itself so people say

00:39:02.400 there was this great schism in 1054 it didn't really

00:39:04.280 happen only in 1453 centuries later four centuries later

00:39:08.360 approximately when Muslim invaders finally sacked Byzantium did

00:39:12.780 the Eastern church repudiate their relationship with Rome that

00:39:16.480 that actual schism only happened because the Muslim invaders 1.00

00:39:19.680 pressured them to do it also interesting is that the schism the

00:39:23.780 actual schism only predates the Protestant revolution by about

00:39:26.920 six decades so that timing was pretty close the only real

00:39:30.360 theological disagreement between the east and the west is the

00:39:33.180 filioque and and they obviously there's some issues with

00:39:37.060 deferring to the the Pope that's always been a political

00:39:39.200 struggle but the the filioque the filioque is that the spirit

00:39:44.160 proceeds from the father and the son Spanish Catholic bishops

00:39:47.300 added that to the Nicene Creed in the 6th century the Holy Spirit

00:39:51.620 proceeds from the father and the son the Eastern Orthodox say two

00:39:55.960 things on this matter they say either that the spirit proceeds

00:39:58.820 only from the father through the son or that it proceeds from the

00:40:03.400 father and the son but the Pope had no right to clarify this in

00:40:06.480 the 6th century are you asleep yet me too earliest church fathers

00:40:10.300 do imply that the spirit proceeds from the father as well as the

00:40:13.800 son but this is mostly a distinction without a difference again this

00:40:17.960 this alleged dispute that we're talking about this big theological

00:40:21.000 dispute only arose after Muslims forced the Eastern Orthodox to

00:40:25.040 repudiate Rome so I don't really buy it plus everything the father has

00:40:29.220 come everything the son has comes from the father as we know so the two

00:40:33.320 statements are they're basically complimentary and and through it's

00:40:38.700 they're complimentary statements not much of a difference one hopes for

00:40:41.940 reconciliation I've heard it described as the east and west being the lungs of

00:40:45.920 the church the two lungs of the church the east has generally a better

00:40:49.460 liturgy these days they don't have any of those damn acoustic guitars and

00:40:52.820 eagles wings and you know the 70s nonsense the west obviously has far more

00:40:57.360 authority and the west beat back the Muslim hordes from Europe on at least 1.00

00:41:01.400 three separate occasions rather than giving into them like the east so pick

00:41:05.680 your church I picked mine think I said they're both good I'm I'm really not

00:41:09.680 disparaging the Eastern Orthodox they have such a beautiful liturgy but you 1.00

00:41:13.780 know one of them has the authority man come on and one of them you know has

00:41:16.680 maintained Christendom for 2,000 years so you know just just saying from

00:41:20.220 Benjamin Pope Knowles thank you finally for using my title I'm like the

00:41:24.340 anti-pope for something there was the Avignon papacy maybe I'm the LA one is

00:41:29.200 there a real distinction in Catholicism between sins of weakness such as

00:41:32.940 premarital fornication and sins of malice such as deliberately hurting

00:41:36.800 somebody I was having a discussion with a non-denominational friend of mine the

00:41:40.860 other day and he put he put any sin willfully committed on the same plane would

00:41:47.080 having relations with my fiance knowing it was wrong carry the same weight as say

00:41:52.020 making fun of someone who's disabled please note that I'm not trying to

00:41:55.440 justify my own behaviors yeah sure buddy and these scenarios are hypothetical

00:41:59.560 whatever helps you sleep at night well at least the latter one mostly the

00:42:03.040 former thanks Ben yeah of course there are gradations of sin of course that's

00:42:07.880 true there are there are mortal and venial sins this is best illustrated in

00:42:11.780 Dante where Dante goes down the circles of hell and at the top are the

00:42:15.100 virtuous pagans like you know Virgil and all those guys who are pretty good guys

00:42:19.100 they just didn't have hope they didn't believe in Jesus and at the bottom are

00:42:22.600 the deceivers Brutus and Cassius and like the worst people that ever lived

00:42:26.240 lots of Protestants who deny this point to James who says whoever keeps the whole

00:42:32.720 law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it this is sort of ironic

00:42:37.540 because the Protestants don't really like James that much broadly speaking Luther

00:42:42.440 didn't like James at all but you know they like so uh we do know from first

00:42:47.240 John 5 17 who tells us all wrongdoing is sin but there is sin which is not mortal

00:42:53.200 right um so yeah they'll Luther and his acolytes didn't have a lot of respect for

00:42:59.000 James seems a little like picking and choosing to me but as James says we all

00:43:03.020 stumble in many ways Christ himself describes these gradations he says the

00:43:08.240 servant who knows the master's will and does not get ready or does not do what

00:43:12.820 the master wants will be beaten with many blows but the one who does not know

00:43:17.260 and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows from everyone

00:43:22.160 who has been given much much more will be demanded and from the one who has been

00:43:26.160 entrusted with much much more will be asked we also see this in Matthew this is

00:43:30.320 throughout scripture James is writing uh of course he's right in that uh he's saying someone

00:43:37.900 who breaks one law becomes a criminal so if you have broken the law you have broken the

00:43:44.900 law as a whole uh but this comes from the sermon of the mount right you know you say

00:43:49.700 do not commit adultery but if you look at a woman with lust you've committed adultery

00:43:53.520 in your heart so if one has even broken the least law he has broken the law and therefore

00:43:59.200 he needs forgiveness and mercy and to be merciful as well we shouldn't take verbal wizardry into the

00:44:04.360 forbidden land of the sophists to say that this repudiates the vision of dante or john or christ

00:44:09.400 himself in describing the varying gradations of sin which we all know to be true uh from bud

00:44:15.340 dear father knowles i've been demoted i went from pope now i'm father dear father knowles i recently

00:44:20.300 had a discussion with an atheist co-worker about the existence of god his content we got it we're gonna

00:44:25.640 have to end it on this one i think uh his contention is that an omniscient god who is good would never

00:44:30.820 create the earth and human beings knowing that there would be such pain and suffering throughout

00:44:35.420 the ages basically why would god ever create mankind in the first place i told him i would

00:44:40.680 consult my spiritual advisor and get back to him oh man that's a lot i that's a lot of burden

00:44:46.580 i i usually just sit here and sip covfefe and drink but i'll try to take this on also what are

00:44:51.140 your thoughts on the traditional latin mass thanks david well i'll take the last one first

00:44:55.600 because it's a little clearer uh i love it i attend it often i recommend everybody attend it often too

00:45:01.480 it's really lovely and it's much better than the acoustic guitars um to your first question how would

00:45:07.520 you describe the greatest possible world would the greatest possible world be perfect uh then then if

00:45:14.660 the greatest possible world is perfect it would have to be a world without freedom and we've seen

00:45:18.660 worlds without freedom and those worlds look a lot like hell uh freedom can be pretty awful we see

00:45:24.200 this in romans 5 12 adam is a is free he has freedom and he sins he disobeys and that brings

00:45:32.140 sin and death into the world and that brings sin and death to all of mankind freedom can be pretty

00:45:37.920 tough man um it's possible that the greatest world is one of freedom and misery rather than

00:45:44.900 unconscious perfection i could sort of see that you say well if we were just all robots who weren't

00:45:49.280 conscious how would that be a perfect world there wouldn't be humans in any way that we could think

00:45:54.120 about humans so you could say well even with total misery even with eventual misery what the world of

00:45:59.760 freedom might still be the best possible world but it's still a miserable world right what about a

00:46:06.140 world of incarnation and atonement what if god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son

00:46:11.460 that whosoever believes in him might not perish but might have everlasting life what if that son

00:46:16.860 became incarnate of the holy spirit born of the virgin mary and became man and what if he fulfilled

00:46:21.780 all of the law and the prophets in perfect humility and was murdered perfectly to atone for his fellow

00:46:26.820 man for no greater love has a man than to die for his friends and what if his perfect death even

00:46:31.880 death on a cross conquered death itself freed man from his infinite debt redeemed an irredeemable

00:46:37.780 debt resolved a financial problem of debt incurred by the finite against the infinite which therefore

00:46:44.200 can only be paid by the infinite creditor creator himself and gave man for the first and final time

00:46:51.360 a reason to hope and joy and abundance that sounds like the greatest possible world to me

00:46:57.080 all right that's our show i'm michael knowles this is the michael knowles show if you want even more

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The Michael Knowles Show - March 15, 2018

Ep. 122 - Hey, Remember The Middle East？ ft. Maj. Scott Huesing

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