Ep. 1223 - Trans Triple Harvard Grad Runs Scared From Our Debate
Summary
A Whole Foods store in San Francisco has been shut down because of high crime, and the mayor has called for the city to be defunded. The White House is pushing an assault weapons ban, and Dana Bash says it won t work.
Transcript
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A San Francisco Whole Foods store has closed after having been open for just one year.
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The store closed because of high crime and dangerous conditions for employees.
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Junkies are reportedly regularly loitering and shooting up around the store.
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It is not a pleasant shopping experience. So why are the bums and the criminals loitering
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around the store? Why is crime so high? It's because San Francisco's elected officials have
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stopped enforcing the law. Arrests have fallen dramatically in recent years. The mayor has
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called to defund the police. It's a cautionary tale, not just for major cities, but for every
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locale that liberalism has infected. It's an answer to the question that liberals always bring up
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when they run out of arguments. The question is, how does it affect you? What do you mean people
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shouldn't be able to do drugs? How does it affect you? What do you mean men shouldn't strap on
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stilettos and saunter into the ladies' room? How does it affect you? It affects me and you and all
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of us because we live in society. And you can't live comfortably in a chaotic society. If you had
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the choice of being the poorest man in a prosperous society or the richest man in a collapsing society,
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you would choose the prosperous society every time. No man is an island entire of itself. We are social
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beings. San Francisco is one of the richest places in America, but its wealthy residents can't have
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Whole Foods, can't have a supermarket. They can't walk down the street without fear of being murdered
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like the poor Cash App founder in San Francisco last week. How does social collapse affect us? It affects
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our whole way of life. What right do we have to impose a better way of life, our preferred way of
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life on the druggies and the bums and the criminals? We have the right of self-government.
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And we'd better start reasserting that right before the whole country turns into one gigantic San
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Francisco. I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Knowles Show.
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updates coming into the latest attacks on democracy, our sacred democracy. Here in my state of Tennessee,
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the Tennessee Three who led a riot at the Capitol. But this was a good riot. It was a good riot at the
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Capitol in Tennessee. It was a bad riot in Washington, D.C. We'll get into that. But there's some new
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footage of one of these Tennessee Three that has appeared that is, it makes you weep for our
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democracy. We'll get to that in just a little bit. First, though, first, though, speaking of violence,
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Karine Jean-Pierre over at the White House is pushing a new assault weapons ban. The Libs
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are trying to take your AR-15s, one of the most popular guns in America. They're trying to take
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those guns, and they are not merely fear-mongering over the guns. They are now outright lying about
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them. We need Congress to act. And if you think about assault weapons ban, we know when we saw when
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the president was involved in 1994 to get that done, we saw gun violence go down. And when it sunset
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10 years later, it went back up. So we know what could work. And that's why you continue to hear
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the president calling on Congress to take action. That just isn't true. On this show, I always try
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to give the Libs the benefit of the doubt. I try to see the point that maybe they're trying to make
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that's obscured by their ideology. I try to be as charitable in my view as I possibly can be.
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But what she said just isn't true. There's no way for me to complicate this or to find some nuance.
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She's just wrong. I have to give a hat to Dana Lash for finding that clip. And she debunked it very,
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very well. A number of conservatives are doing that right now. It isn't true that the DOJ in July of 2004
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observed that the assault weapons ban did not do that. The DOJ concluded that it could not credit
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the ban with any drop in gun violence. JAMA, this is the Journal of the American Medical Association,
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we've got an article here from 2017, observed that specific laws directed at firearm trafficking,
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improving child safety, or the banning of military-style assault weapons were not associated
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with changes in firearm homicide rates. I've got another paper here. This is from just January of
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this year from the Rand Corporation, concludes pretty much the very same thing. It's just not
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true. The White House is just lying. They have no arguments on their side. And so they're just going
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to double down on a lie. And it is the definition of madness to do the very same thing over and over
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again and expect different results. It's just not true. If they had good arguments, they would make
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them. They don't, so they lie to you. We should not give this any quarter, any Republican who votes for
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the so-called assault weapons ban is just a complete tool, a total squish. There's no reasoning with that
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kind of a Republican because there's no reason in this debate. Speaking of debates, I mentioned yesterday
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on the show how excited I am at the prospect of this debate that I'm having at the University of
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Pittsburgh scheduled by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute with Professor Donald McCloskey, who now
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goes by Deirdre. He identifies as transgender. He's a distinguished professor. We were to debate
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transgenderism and womanhood and who decides on this. And this has been scheduled for a long time,
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all sorts of petitions and political calls to shut down the debate. The professor had previously
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said that he hates me. He specifically called me a fascist and all sorts of mean names,
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but said that we have to debate. You shouldn't run away from debates.
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He pulled out of the debate. He pulled out of the debate. It was obviously keeping him up at night.
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I was contacted by the media yesterday, shortly after my show, asking me for comment on Professor
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McCloskey's pulling out of this debate with me at the University of Pittsburgh.
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So then I looked at the articles to see what Professor McCloskey was saying here. And according
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to this article from the City Paper, quote, since discovering Knowles to be utterly uninterested in
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finding the truth and instead, quote, interested in stirring up hatred and violence toward people
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who do not fit his extremely conservative Catholic beliefs, she, meaning he, Donald McCloskey,
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has dropped out of the event. McCloskey says he, quote, is very willing to debate on the issue,
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just not with Knowles. Then they say, I made headlines for calling for the eradication of
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transgenderism, the whole ideology from public life at CPAC. So this is very curious that Professor
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McCloskey would drop out now because it is true. Both Professor McCloskey and I were invited by ISI
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to debate before my CPAC speech and before the media lied about what I said and the White House
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lied about what I said. But then after the speech, Professor McCloskey reiterated his desire to debate
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the issue. And he called me all sorts of mean names. He called me a fascist. He called me an anti-Jesus
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Catholic. He identifies not just as a woman but as Episcopalian. So he, I guess there was an anti-Catholic
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dig. But he said, regardless, we need to debate these ideas, not run away from them, not hide them
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or suppress them. Okay. Then we had a pre-debate call. So this is a call with the organizers and me
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and Professor McCloskey. And we discussed what we'd like to talk about during the debate. And he started
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off quite rude and impolite on the call. But by the end, he had sort of warmed up a little bit.
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And I don't know. I guess he just didn't know very much about me. And I think he expected me to be
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just some bomb-throwing, you know, provocateur. And so when I said on the call that, no, my objection
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is just that I don't think that transgender people is a real ontological category. I think there are
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people who are confused about their sex, but that's not a real distinct category of being. And when I
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said that my issue here is an epistemological disagreement and an anthropological disagreement,
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and here's why I think transgenderism is false. And furthermore, here's why I think that the state
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has a role in regulating the basic definitions of these things. Professor McCloskey seemed surprised by
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that. He started out the phone call by insinuating that I'm poorly educated and don't have any idea
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what I'm talking about. But by the end of the call, he didn't really have that posture anymore.
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And at one point, actually, when he was surprised that I said that I do support the state having a
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role in regulating these things, he said, oh, I guess you're a consistent conservative. You know,
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if I were not a conservative, if I were a libertarian or something like that,
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then he could have caught me in a bit of hypocrisy. But no, I was just explaining my
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view. It's the basic conservative view. It's the basic view that everybody held on this issue
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until about eight years ago. It's the view that even liberal Democrats held until about eight years
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ago. It's based on an understanding of human nature that dates back at least 2,300 years and
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based on a traditional epistemology that served our civilization very, very well.
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And anyway, I don't mean any of that to try to persuade Professor McCloskey to come into the
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debate. I just mentioned that to point out that his excuse as to why he's pulling out
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is not honest. Professor McCloskey knew my views on this subject. He's known them for well over a month
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at least. And then we even had a call about it a couple of weeks ago. After the call, he reiterated
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his desire to have the debate. Nothing has changed since then. And so I suspect all that's changed is
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he knows that he can't win the debate. That's not a knock on his intelligence. It's not a knock on his
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education. But he's just wrong. He's defending an indefensible position. And so I think he could have
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seemed to win the debate if I were just a bomb thrower and I were just a provocateur and calling
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people all sorts of names the way that he was calling me names. Maybe then he could have appeared
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like the adult in the room. But because that's not my style and because he, after that phone call,
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had been a little bit more familiar with my style, I think he realized there was just no
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win for him. And so he contradicted his previous view that we have to debate these things in public
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and we need to hash these things out in the free marketplace of ideas. And now he's just run away
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from the debate. I've got a speech today in East Tennessee State University over in Johnson City.
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And then I've got a speech tomorrow at the University of Wisconsin-Superior. So if you're
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around, head on over there. You can reserve tickets online. We'll see out there. It's not that I have a
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lack of speaking opportunities over the next few weeks. But I was looking forward to this debate and
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hashing out this issue that everybody seems so focused on. That's unfortunate because I know
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that some people in this audience had made plans to attend to the debate. I know that there were
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obviously going to be a lot of protests and there were always hecklers and all sorts of miscreants,
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but it doesn't come from our side. It's not the conservatives who do that. It's always the people
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on Professor McCloskey's side of the debate who disrupt these events. So we were prepared for that
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and it's unfortunate. So we're looking for a replacement. I intend to do some kind of event
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at Pitt. We're working on seeing if anyone else will come in, but I think it's very telling.
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As I've said from the beginning of this whole debate prospect, I've said, if I'm going to have
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this debate, I want it to be with a really serious person. I want it to be with the person who can make
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the strongest argument for transgenderism that there is. I don't want some two-bit hustler from
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YouTube or something. I want a distinguished scholar. And it's very telling that a distinguished
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professor with multiple degrees from Harvard, three of them, and half a dozen honorary doctorates,
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and two dozen academic publications, even he does not feel that he can debate the issue of
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transgenderism. And he would rather concede the debate before it begins than lose in front of
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the C-SPAN cameras, because also C-SPAN was going to air this debate. So not surprising. And I'm happy
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to take a win by default. Happy to take this technical victory. But it's too bad that we couldn't have the
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debate in public. It's too bad that he did not have the courage of his convictions, convictions both about
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transgenderism, and about the role of debate in society. It proves an old adage, which is that
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you can always tell a Harvard man, but you can't tell him much. Speaking of gender, sometimes you
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will hear the libs say that they are not, in fact, transing the kids. Out of one side of the mouth,
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they say, it's very important that we trans the kids. This is gender-affirming health care. We have to
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give it to everybody. Even the White House says this. But then out of the other side of your mouth,
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when a conservative criticizes this idea, they'll say, no, we're not doing that. This is a right-wing
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conspiracy theory. We're not transing the kids. And you say, well, you're putting them in gender-affirming
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therapy. Well, yes, that's true. And you're putting them on puberty blockers. You say, yes, that's true.
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You're putting them on cross-sex hormones sometimes. Yes, that's true.
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So how are you not transing the kids? And what they will say is, well, we're not performing the
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surgeries on them. We're not chopping off their body parts. We wait until 18 to do that. But that's
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not true. North Carolina Surgery Clinic has just been caught performing the gender surgery on young
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girls as young as 14. The Cosmetic Concierge, which is a plastic surgery clinic in Charlotte,
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performed elective double mastectomies on these young teenage girls, including at the very least
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one 14-year-old. This, according to reports from Redux. They've got images of this. It's not even
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just records. They've got images showing the results of top surgery procedures, which is where
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these quacks chop off the breasts, healthy breasts of young girls who are having a little bit of body
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discomfort as they go through puberty, like every single teenage girl ever in human history.
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Well, what they decide to do is chop off their healthy body parts. The photos include lots of
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other girls too, though. 16-year-olds, 15-year-olds, and 14-year-olds. This is happening. Don't let them
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tell you that this isn't happening. It is. Don't let them tell you that they're not defunding the
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police. They are. Don't let them tell you that they're not putting porn in schools, elementary schools.
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They are. We've got the pictures. We've got the receipts. It is happening. And their only argument
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against it now is just to lie. They're just lying. There's no engaging in a good faith dialogue and
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finding the nuance here. They're just, they're doing very bad things and they're trying to cover
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it up. And the only way to deal with that is to outlaw it and then bring down the weight of
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government and the force and the state and the justice system to punish the people who do these
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kinds of evil, evil acts. Speaking of medical malpractice and our judicial system, huge win
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from the courts. Major, major win for pro-life. This is the biggest win for pro-life since the
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overruling of Roe v. Wade and the Dobbs decision. U.S. District Judge Matthew Kashmarek, I'm almost
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certainly mispronouncing that name, suspended the FDA's longtime approval of the abortion drug
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mifepristone. The government has one week to appeal this decision, but the federal judge
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has suspended the FDA approval of mifepristone, which was granted more than 20 years ago.
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And this drug is used in tandem with another drug, misoprostol, to kill babies up until about 10
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weeks old. Why does this matter? Well, we think about abortion as the woman goes into the abortion
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mill and the quacks and the witches and the satanic doctors go in and kill the babies. That's what we
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picture. But more than half of U.S. abortions are not surgical. They're medical. They're done by
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taking pills. And what this judge has done is to suspend the approval of that pill. Why is he doing
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it? It says, quote, the government did not adequately assess the drug safety and should not have made it
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accessible via telehealth during the pandemic. Obviously true. And what it means is, if this
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stay on the drug goes into effect, the drug would no longer be available anywhere in the U.S.
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There are going to be squished Republicans who say, oh, don't do this. Oh, don't. Abortion. It's
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not a good issue for us. It's a losing issue. Can't we just, let's just not talk about it, please.
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These are the same people who've been saying the same thing for decades and decades.
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The only two issues on which conservatives have won over the last 50 years have been guns
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and pro-life. That's it. We've lost everything else. Sometimes we cut taxes a little bit and
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the taxes go back up. But we've lost on everything. Why? Because those are the only issues where we
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speak in clear moral terms. The left always speaks in clear immoral terms. And on guns,
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on the right to protect yourself, and on pro-life, conservatives speak in clear moral terms.
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And that persuades people. And that is where we win. Don't go squishy now. We're talking about more
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than half the abortions in the United States are performed using drugs like this. Save half those
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babies. Let's go. This is great. Push forward on this. It will go up to the Supreme Court. I want to
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hear every conservative in the country embracing this, endorsing this, persuading their fellow
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citizens that this is a good thing. This is the right thing to do. The judge has done his part.
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Let's go. All the conservative electeds, all the media heads, all these people. I want to hear it.
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There has been, according to the liberal media, a muted response from Republicans who don't want
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this to swing back on them. I don't want a muted response. I don't want squishes. I don't want
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cowards. Speak up for life. If you're not going to defend life, you're not going to defend anything
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When was the last time you prayed? Maybe a better question to ask is,
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petitioning God for something. But as with all things concerning God, there is more to it than that.
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That's the way Ben Shapiro describes it in the latest episode of Exodus,
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The idea of prayer that you're talking about is obviously a lot more meaningful because it's
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really not about changing God's mind. It's about changing who you are, and thus God naturally
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responds to you differently because you're not the person that you were before you prayed.
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The verb to pray in Hebrew is actually in the reflexive tense, right? Lahit palel,
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which is supposed to, the idea is that it's supposed to be something that acts on you. The prayer is
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supposed to act on you. It's not supposed to be something where you're attempting to
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Now, speaking of things going on in Tennessee right now, you know about the riot. I'm sorry,
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the peaceful, wonderful protest. It's a peaceful, wonderful protest when it's the Democrats
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leading people in to interrupt legislative procedures, and it's a terrible insurrection,
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the worst thing ever, when conservative grannies go and take pictures in the Capitol Rotunda.
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That's what happens. So now we're trying to figure out who these people are.
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There were three reps who pushed this nonsense, one of whom is a woman by the name of Gloria Johnson.
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Gloria Johnson is one of the three. She's the only one who managed to survive the expulsion vote.
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She survived it by one vote. The other two got booted out of the state house,
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but she survived it by one vote because she was slightly less egregious in her behavior on that day.
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So these are the kind of people who are running the show in New York. Gloria Johnson just recently
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made the claim that the conservatives in Tennessee are trying to bring back lynching.
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It was just a few weeks ago that one of my colleagues in our criminal justice committee,
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um, we were, we had a bill, they have a bill to bring back the firing squad and the electric chair.
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And one of my colleagues said, I think we should bring back hanging by a tree.
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It's happening in Tennessee, by the way, I said it was New York because of this woman's crazy ideas,
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but no, that's what a Tennessee lawmaker is saying. That's not what lynching is.
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Lynching is extrajudicial killing by a group of people.
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Lynching does not always involve hanging. Lynch mobs can lynch people all sorts of different ways.
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And hanging does not always mean lynching. In fact, most of the time, hanging has not meant lynching.
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But most of the time, hanging has just been the punishment for a crime meted out by the courts.
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If a criminal is tried and convicted and then hanged, you wouldn't call that a lynching. That
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is just the ordinary administration of justice. This woman doesn't know a basic fact about the
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justice system. And it makes me wonder, how long can we govern ourselves with ignorance this pervasive?
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How long can we continue this republic of ours when people, and especially our leaders,
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don't know a thing about anything? They don't know. I'm not saying that they have kind of eccentric
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ideas or that we would disagree on this. I mean, they just don't know basic facts about anything.
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They don't know what a man is. They don't know what a woman is. How long can we endure?
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Our constitution is great. It's a really nice piece of paper with really nice fancy handwriting on it.
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But it doesn't mean anything if there are not people to run the government properly.
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And we have such blithe ignorance in this country, especially among the leadership class.
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I don't know how much longer we can go on like this. Now, the other person who helped lead the
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Tennessee riot, a guy named Justin Pearson. Justin Pearson is a preacher, I guess, in addition to
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being a former politician, a guy who used to have a seat in the state house, but now got booted out.
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Would you mind going ahead and praying with me now, Mother God, Creator God, loving God, Holy God,
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take this your servant made from dust and connected with the raw materials of stardust to speak in this
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moment, to say something that brings forward the word you placed into my heart. I accept my
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unworthiness for such a task as bold as this, and I seek your guidance as you use me and speak through
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me. To the ancestor preachers who made sermons from hymns, moans, and groans, and spirituals from
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the bondage of slavery, speak now through this your descendant. To the black women locked out,
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being abused, tormented, raped, eradicated, and yet born a new and distant future in this country,
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and to a young colored boy named me, I name you now my great-grandmother Anna Ruth, my great-grandmother
00:28:11.380
Flossie, my great-grandmother Everline, my great-grandmother Lavinia. Yeah, he goes on and on
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and on. Slam poetry is the death of art. It would seem to be the death of religious worship,
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and it's now also the death of politics. He opens up, he says, Mother God, these people who insist
00:28:33.360
that we honor their pronouns, their preferred pronouns, they won't honor God's preferred pronouns.
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They never seem to do that. Why does it matter? Why does it matter what this guy's religious views
00:28:42.880
are? Or irreligious views, I guess, in this case? Because, as John Adams told us, the Constitution
00:28:50.700
is built for a moral and religious people. And when he's talking about religion, he's talking about
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Christianity. Not Mother God, ancestor worship, or whatever this guy's talking about, but actual
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Christianity. Not the, what is this place called? The Memphis Unitarian Universalist meeting house,
00:29:07.260
but Christianity. John Adams spelled that out. He said, the beliefs that animate America are
00:29:13.720
Christian beliefs. The morality that animates America, it's Christian morality. John Jay said
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this. The Founding Fathers said this resoundingly. Why is a politician a preacher? I'm not on him
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because he's a preacher. Of course, government is in the religion business. How and who and what we
00:29:34.720
worship more than anything else forms who we are. If we worship God, we're going to have a godlier,
00:29:43.180
goodlier, better society. If we worship money, we're going to have a materialistic society. If we
00:29:50.300
worship weird sex stuff, we're going to have a lust-convulsed society. If we worship ourselves,
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we're in a very selfish society. In that sermon, he goes on, he talks about how important it is
00:30:01.560
to trans everybody. They won't have to worry about folks talking about advocating for people to get
00:30:07.180
access to healthcare who are transgender children. Won't have to worry about the need to end lynching
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as capital punishment. There it is too. Oh man, the first time all I caught was the need to trans
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people. And by the way, children, he says. Well, listen, we need to. I'm praying to the mother
00:30:27.660
goddess of the spirit of my ancestors. And that is why we need to chop off the healthy genitals of
00:30:33.240
the little children. And that is why we need to pump them full of cross-sex hormones and sterilize
00:30:37.860
the children because of my religious views. And that is why we need to stop lynching as capital
00:30:44.600
punishment. Lynching cannot be capital punishment by definition. Capital punishment is a part of the
00:30:55.480
judicial system. If a person has a fair trial, a real trial, and is convicted by the civil authority,
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by the judicial system, and is then killed, that cannot be lynching. By definition, these are the
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people who are running our states. And this is going to be increasingly the case. This is a young man.
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He's in his mid to late 20s. It's not his fault that he was poorly educated. It's not his fault that
00:31:28.660
he was raised in some bizarro pseudo-religious upbringing. It's not his fault that this was how
00:31:36.680
he was formed. It's not his fault, but it is our problem. Our leaders are just so profoundly ignorant.
00:31:46.340
They have no idea. And when all of our leaders have no idea, our country cannot fly. The Constitution
00:31:58.140
was built for a moral and religious people. I'll add one little extra to that. It was built for people
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00:32:45.620
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My favorite comment yesterday is from Scoot. Scoot, who says, I can't wait for this debate.
00:33:26.660
It's going to be a classic. Thanks, Knowles. Bad news for you, Scoot.
00:33:29.960
Sorry, man. I don't, I was looking forward to it too. I thought it would have been an interesting
00:33:37.020
debate, but I, all I can do is accept a debate invitation. But if my debate opponent gets cold
00:33:46.300
feet at the very end, what can I do? Debate's over before it began. I guess I won.
00:33:52.900
But I still wish we could have had the debate. C'est la vie. C'est la vie.
00:34:03.640
Now, speaking of our rulers, 2024 is around the corner. And there's a really interesting poll that
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just came out of Florida. Ron DeSantis has just edged out Donald Trump in Florida. Now,
00:34:19.980
this might be expected because Ron DeSantis is the governor of Florida. So he's active right now,
00:34:25.420
especially in that state. People are very aware of him there. Okay. The reason this matters is
00:34:31.780
because Florida is the one state where you could say that Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump have pretty
00:34:38.640
much the same degree of name recognition. People whose nose is in politics all the time frequently
00:34:45.720
forget that a lot of people don't pay attention to this stuff so frequently. And so Ron DeSantis
00:34:49.800
doesn't have anywhere near the name recognition that Donald Trump has nationwide. But in Florida,
00:34:53.240
they do. And head to head in Florida, DeSantis, at least according to this poll from Mason Dixon
00:34:57.720
polling, is slightly edging out Trump in Florida. Great news for DeSantis. However, I still think
00:35:06.400
Trump has the advantage here. I still think this is Trump's race to lose. Ron DeSantis has done a great
00:35:13.200
job building up his support among Floridians. It's taken him a while to do that. And he's got
00:35:18.620
really tangible results for Florida residents to point to. Is he going to be able to do that
00:35:23.720
nationwide? It's hard to see how Trump has had such a head start. Trump is going to get so much
00:35:29.740
free publicity from the media. And the fact that the libs hate Trump more than they hate DeSantis is
00:35:34.840
going to help Trump in the primary. Unless they throw this guy in prison and prevent him from
00:35:40.120
campaigning, it's hard to see how DeSantis ultimately pulls it off. But this is good news for him. This
00:35:46.440
is a good start to his campaign. It shows that he's at least got a shot to do it. The best argument
00:35:56.160
against Trump in 2024 is that the powers that be are just not going to let him win again.
00:36:04.540
And that's not a fair knock on his campaign. And it's not right. And it's not just. But
00:36:10.620
especially if you think that there were shenanigans in the 2020 election,
00:36:14.840
what's to say there's not going to be shenanigans this time? How are you going to prevent that?
00:36:19.900
If you think that there are interests that can strongly influence a campaign and an election,
00:36:26.040
how's Trump going to prevent that this time? Speaking of the deep state,
00:36:31.500
the FBI cultivated sources in Catholic parishes. The FBI was spying on Catholics simply for going to
00:36:42.600
mass as part of a counterterrorism campaign. We know this now because of the man, Jim Jordan,
00:36:50.640
who as the head of the Judiciary Committee of the House, just wrote to the director of the FBI,
00:36:57.520
Christopher Wray, and observes that based on the limited information produced by the FBI to the
00:37:02.740
committee, we now know that the FBI relied on at least one undercover agent to produce its analysis
00:37:07.580
and that the FBI proposed that its agents engage in outreach to Catholic parishes to develop sources
00:37:12.740
among the clergy and church leadership to inform on Americans practicing their faith. So they're trying
00:37:17.580
to go and flip the priests on the parishioners. Do you realize how messed up this is? Especially
00:37:27.900
considering that Christianity is an incarnational faith, Catholicism in particular, takes that
00:37:33.920
sacramental incarnational aspect very, very seriously. Catholics engage in sacramental confession.
00:37:39.400
We go into the confessional, we confess our sins to a priest. We tell the priest all the worst
00:37:43.540
stuff that we've done, and we try to do it regularly, ideally once a week. And the seal of that
00:37:49.680
confessional is inviolable. And then the FBI goes in there and tries to get the clergy to rat on the
00:37:57.320
parishioners. Can you imagine how perverse that is, how corrupt that is? Jordan goes on, he says,
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we've repeatedly sought information from the FBI relating to this document that came out at the end of
00:38:11.580
January, entitled, Interest of Racially or Ethnically Motivated Violent Extremists in Radical Traditionalist
00:38:17.960
Catholic Ideology. Almost certainly presents new mitigation opportunities. A classic gobbledygook
00:38:23.220
from the government. But it's saying that the Catholics are radicals, especially the conservative
00:38:30.960
Catholics. They're radicals, and the feds are going to go in and spy on them. Which proves that memo that
00:38:36.440
came out, that wasn't just a one-off memo. Oopsie-daisy. That's how the FBI tried to play it off.
00:38:40.480
They said, oh, whoopsies. Oh, that memo, that doesn't meet our standards. Oops. Don't know how
00:38:45.280
that got in there. Yeah, okay, it's gone. Yeah, it's gone. Nothing to see here. No, we didn't mean
00:38:49.980
that. Hey, is that a butterfly? Hey, come on, stop looking here. But no, this was a program.
00:38:54.880
This was a program carried out by the FBI with agents on the case spying on Catholics.
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That is scary because it raises all sorts of questions about how our democracy really operates.
00:39:12.180
It raises all sorts of questions about the power of the deep state. And it especially shows you just
00:39:17.080
what utter garbage it is when you hear the libs whining and crying and clutching their pearls over
00:39:22.560
the threats. The threats to our sacred democracy posed by the horn hat man taking a selfie in the
00:39:29.260
Capitol. What about the threats to our sacred democracy from the FBI spying on Christians?
00:39:34.540
Going in and trying to flip priests on their parishioners. What about that? That seems like
00:39:40.340
a bigger threat to our sacred democracy than some Midwestern grannies having, taking pictures in the
00:39:46.660
Capitol. It's our democracy. And you know, do you know that the conservatives are not even defending
00:39:54.060
our sacred democracy? According to, it's according to MSNBC's Nicole Wallace. Nicole Wallace says not a
00:40:01.360
single Republican is doing anything to protect democracy. The Republican, the corruption of the
00:40:07.460
party that you and I were a part of is also a story that gets short shrifted. We sanitize that too.
00:40:13.700
It's corrupt from the top to the bottom, from east to west. Not one Republican condemned the
00:40:18.500
Tennessee Republican majority for what they did. Not one Republican who thought that bringing
00:40:24.260
democracy to Iraq or Afghanistan would make our country safer, which was, I know it's on
00:40:28.640
pipe in there, but that was the position of Mitch McConnell and every elected Republican. Not one of
00:40:32.560
them is interested in doing a single damn thing to protect democracy here in America, here in Tennessee.
00:40:39.060
The Republicans who voted to expel the Democrat lawmakers who led what, and a protest that,
00:40:55.020
the sort of protest that the Democrats themselves have called an insurrection and a coup d'etat,
00:40:58.800
and these Democrat lawmakers in Tennessee led it. The thing that the Democrats say posed the greatest
00:41:07.020
threat to democracy and almost overthrew our whole constitutional order, these Democrat lawmakers
00:41:12.580
led one of those, a much more serious version of those, in the Tennessee State House. And then when
00:41:19.800
they were expelled, those same liberals come in and they say, this is a threat to democracy. It's always
00:41:24.780
a threat. When you don't give the liberals what they want, that's always going to be the threat to
00:41:29.560
democracy, even when it is an expression of democracy. When the Republicans in the State House
00:41:34.980
who are duly elected by their constituents, when they exercise their right to expel members for
00:41:40.960
certain extraordinary misbehavior that the members have engaged in, that is not the undermining of
00:41:45.900
democracy. It can't be by definition. That is by definition an expression of democracy.
00:41:52.320
But what the liberals mean by democracy is liberalism. So if the people go in and they elect a Trump or
00:41:59.120
they elect an Orban or they elect a Georgia Maloney or they elect any conservative ever, that is
00:42:03.540
always a threat to democracy, according to the liberals. Because they don't like democracy, they only
00:42:11.040
like liberalism. Now, what are we going to do about it? I love that those Republicans expelled those
00:42:15.180
miscreants. What are we going to do about it? Well, we've got an answer. The State Freedom Caucus
00:42:22.960
Network. My colleague Luke Rosiak here just reported on this at Daily Wire. The State Freedom Caucus
00:42:28.700
Network is just what it sounds like. It's the Freedom Caucus that you see in the House of Representatives,
00:42:32.360
but at the state level. It has taken root in 11 states, and the mission of the State Freedom Caucus
00:42:40.140
Network is to make sure that Republicans, when they have political power, use that political power in
00:42:46.520
the states. We have a lot of political power at the state level, and we don't really use it all that
00:42:53.880
will. And you see what happens. When a Republican governor and a Republican legislature wield political
00:43:00.980
power in the states, big change can happen, like we've seen in Florida under Ron DeSantis. It's the
00:43:05.980
reason that Ron DeSantis is being talked about as the number two presidential candidate right now on the
00:43:09.600
right. But what about the other states? States such as Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Idaho,
00:43:15.760
Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Utah, they've got way more Republican control than Florida does.
00:43:24.000
90% of seats in Wyoming are held by Republicans. Ohio has more Republican control than Florida does.
00:43:32.360
So why aren't they leading? Why are we all looking to Florida? We should be looking to Florida on one
00:43:37.120
issue, and then Wyoming one-ups them on another issue, and then Ohio one-ups Wyoming on another issue.
00:43:42.660
Well, that's what the State Freedom Caucus Network is setting out to do. It's led by Andrew Roth,
00:43:49.300
who is a former executive at the Club for Growth, alongside Justin Wimet, I'm probably mispronouncing
00:43:55.040
that, which is the House Freedom Caucus' former executive director. Great news. Let's do it, baby.
00:44:00.580
This is something I've been calling for for a very long time. Wield that political power,
00:44:05.520
not just at the national glitzy issues, but down at the state level too, down at the local level too.
00:44:10.560
Got to wield it. You got to use it or lose it. Speaking of political power being wielded and
00:44:18.660
all these sorts of political fights, Alvin Bragg, who is the Manhattan district attorney who is trying
00:44:24.360
to imprison Donald Trump, he is now suing Jim Jordan, the head of the House Judiciary Committee,
00:44:30.400
because Jim Jordan is going to subpoena a prosecutor who formerly worked for Bragg because Jim Jordan
00:44:36.400
thinks that the prosecution by Bragg of Donald Trump is a violation of our constitutional norms
00:44:42.420
and something within the purview of the House Judiciary Committee, because the House Judiciary
00:44:47.000
Committee, though focused on the federal level, obviously has an interest in what happens to
00:44:51.860
presidents and former presidents. Are you confused by that? Yeah, I'm a little bit confused too.
00:44:55.540
But what it basically boils down to is that you've got a fight between the federal government
00:45:01.780
and the local government. And what's weird about this fight is that the federal government
00:45:06.380
is actually being represented by the conservatives and the local government in New York is being
00:45:10.820
represented by the liberals. And in this case, Jim Jordan is in the right. We're in uncharted
00:45:16.580
territory, so you're going to hear people making all sorts of legal arguments. All of those arguments
00:45:21.220
are going to be novel legal arguments because we've never been in a position before where a former
00:45:25.120
president and current leader of the opposition is being arrested by the ruling party
00:45:29.560
because we've degraded our country. And now we're living in something closer to a banana republic.
00:45:36.320
And it's going to be the Republicans on the side of the feds here, on the side of federal power,
00:45:40.980
because the guy that they've gone after is a former president. But Jordan is right here.
00:45:46.840
This is a huge overreach by the liberals and by New York. And I hope, I am so glad that we've
00:45:53.040
got Jim Jordan in the fight. He is the man for the hour. Keep it up, guys. Okay, the rest of the
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