The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1279 - Supreme Court Finally Ends Affirmative Action

00:00:00.000 We are very possibly living in the era of the greatest Supreme Court bench in American history.

00:00:08.880 That has been true, that we are very possibly in that era since last year's decision in Dobbs,

00:00:15.960 which overruled the single worst decision in American history, Roe v. Wade. But the claim

00:00:23.240 has now gotten some strong backup since yesterday, the Supreme Court of the United States struck down

00:00:29.320 affirmative action, racial discrimination in college admissions. And as a cherry on top,

00:00:37.580 the exact losing party was the liberal lunatics over at Harvard. That was just that, just a little 0.97

00:00:43.540 L for Harvard was just a right on top of this otherwise totally beautiful case, already totally

00:00:49.760 beautiful case. The case was Students for Fair Admissions Incorporated versus President and

00:00:56.200 Fellows of Harvard College. And the court ruled six to three that race-based admissions programs at

00:01:00.960 Harvard and UNC violate the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment. Chief Justice Roberts joined

00:01:07.420 the conservatives and wrote for the court, quote, eliminating racial discrimination means

00:01:12.500 eliminating all of it. I know that conservatives are supposed to whine and complain and constantly

00:01:20.960 lament the end of the world. But this Supreme Court, thanks to three judges appointed by one president,

00:01:29.260 one president who was improbably elected after all the smart set political geniuses said hope was lost,

00:01:36.640 he didn't have a chance, 99% chance the Democrat was going to win. Well, this Supreme Court that exists

00:01:44.220 only as a result of all those things happening, has officially and significantly changed the chorus

00:01:50.200 of American history for the better. Just when conservatives were inclined to give up hope,

00:01:55.600 we remember an important lesson heading into Fourth of July weekend, a verse of a very important song

00:02:02.840 that very often gets left out of the singing.

00:02:06.520 Oh, thus be it ever when free men shall stand between their loved home and the war's desolation.

00:02:14.000 Blessed with victory and peace, may the heaven-rescued land praise the power that hath made and preserved

00:02:19.860 us a nation. Then conquer we must when our cause it is just, and this be our motto, in God is our trust.

00:02:28.120 And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave, for the land of the free and the home of the brave.

00:02:34.860 I'm Michael Knowles. It's the Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:44.900 It's a good day, folks. It's good. We got to celebrate the wins when we get them. And to celebrate,

00:02:49.840 we'll do something a little special and fun. Something that I usually only reserve for the

00:02:54.060 crème de la crème, the inner circle, the beurre de la beurre, the real, you know, the real members.

00:03:00.020 We're going to do it at the end of the show. It's Fake Headline Friday. We'll get to that in just a bit.

00:03:02.860 First, though, this case, Students for Fair Admissions Incorporated versus President and Fellows of Harvard

00:03:08.340 College. What is this group? This is a group that said that they were unfairly discriminated against

00:03:16.600 in the admissions processes at Harvard and UNC. And the group pointed to the high test scores of

00:03:24.600 Asian students and white applicants who were rejected. If the case were only brought by white

00:03:29.780 students, it would have gone nowhere because we live at a time, well, I guess this has just changed.

00:03:35.420 We live at a time where you had widespread de jure racial discrimination against white people.

00:03:41.660 And we still live in a time where the only group that you are allowed to and encouraged socially 0.94

00:03:46.880 to attack and insult and malign and mock is white people. So if it had only been white students 0.96

00:03:55.440 who were affected here, I don't think the case really would have gone very far. But the libs made

00:04:00.360 a big mistake. They got a little sloppy and they discriminated against Asians too. And Asians can

00:04:07.100 claim the mantle of discriminated against oppressed minority. And so this exposed some of the incoherence

00:04:15.020 of the affirmative action regime. After the civil rights movement, the black civil rights movement in

00:04:19.480 the 1960s, a lot of other groups on the left realized that they could try to mimic the civil

00:04:24.780 rights movement of black people who have a unique role in American history because of the existence

00:04:30.360 of slavery and the long experience of black people in America. They realized they could kind of mimic

00:04:35.160 that and try to get their own ends to the point that today you even have people who have various

00:04:40.140 sexual desires and identities and all this kind of nonsense claiming to be the new civil rights movement.

00:04:45.780 And this didn't really work when one of the arguments for affirmative action was that you

00:04:53.700 need to protect these poor, aggrieved racial minorities. And then you've got a poor, aggrieved 0.99

00:04:56.700 racial minority that says, wait, you're discriminating against us too because we're Asians and we work

00:05:00.900 very hard and we have high IQs and we're doing well on these tests, but we're not being allowed in

00:05:05.340 while people from other racial groups who have lower test scores are being allowed in in our place

00:05:10.580 because of racial favoritism in the schools. Okay, so you get it.

00:05:14.020 This case overrules a previous case, Grutter v. Bollinger. This was a case that was decided

00:05:20.680 23 years ago, I think it was. I think it was a 2003 case. And at the time that Grutter was decided,

00:05:26.560 which upheld affirmative action in college admissions, Sandra Day O'Connor, the nominally

00:05:31.200 conservative Republican appointed justice who often sided with the libs, she said, we expect that 25 years

00:05:37.260 from now, the use of racial preferences will no longer be necessary. So already built in to the

00:05:43.140 upholding of affirmative action was this idea that it's going to be time limited. And where do you

00:05:47.160 get that principle from in the constitution? You don't. And it was just the Supreme Court with the

00:05:52.360 libs and the squish conservatives shooting from the hip. But now we're almost exactly 25 years later

00:05:57.680 and the court says, okay, time's up. It wasn't just Sandra Day O'Connor who, though a squish was still 0.99

00:06:02.780 appointed by a Republican, by Ronald Reagan, but it was even the libs. It was even the liberal icons.

00:06:08.240 Ruth Bader Ginsburg at the time of Grutter v. Bollinger upholding affirmative action. She still

00:06:13.380 said that it can't be used forever, but it's useful for the time being to give us the racial

00:06:20.740 outcomes that we want in society. Justice Thomas at the time made a really important point that I

00:06:28.340 haven't heard a lot of people talk about, but it shows you why these schools are so insistent on

00:06:33.100 upholding affirmative action. They were insistent on it, not just because they're liberal ideologues and

00:06:37.500 they hate white people and they want to help other racial groups get an unfair advantage over 0.91

00:06:40.740 white people or whatever. It's also because these schools want to maintain their prestige and they 0.98

00:06:45.920 recognize that as racial diversity and inclusion and equity and whatever, all the rest of these

00:06:53.020 ideologies become important in American life, that in order to continue to train the elite, the people

00:06:58.080 who inevitably will become part of the elite so long as this ideology predominates, they need to

00:07:04.860 bring in more people of these racial groups that are not doing as well on the tests and if test scores

00:07:11.140 are the only thing that matter, are not going to be admitted to the college in very high numbers.

00:07:15.820 So they're trying to maintain their prestige and their hold on American public life. Thomas went even

00:07:22.440 further, Clarence Thomas in the Grutter case, and he said that the schools have to pick high standards

00:07:28.460 or diversity. That's that. If they're going to exalt high standards, then they need to stop playing

00:07:34.280 favorites with the races. If they're going to exalt racial diversity or whatever, sexual diversity or

00:07:39.560 all the other kinds of diversity for diversity's sake, then they need to stop pretending that they're

00:07:43.540 valuing high standards. It's one or the other. They're mutually opposed here because even if you

00:07:50.020 say, well, obviously there are plenty of black people who do very well on tests and who will do very

00:07:55.260 well in these schools. I mean, Justice Thomas would be a great example of this. It's about the

00:08:00.060 principle that you're enshrining. Is college admissions primarily about high standards or is

00:08:05.680 it primarily about diversity and ideology? So today the Supreme Court says affirmative action gone in

00:08:13.460 college admissions. And don't forget the Supreme Court reads the polls. Supreme Court reads the newspapers

00:08:17.840 and a majority of Americans, 62% overwhelming need, not just Republicans, not just white people,

00:08:23.540 but a wide smattering of American people oppose race-based college admissions because they all

00:08:29.780 know it seems really, really unfair. So now we've got the opinion. We've got the dissent. We've got two

00:08:35.080 dueling opinions in the case. One opinion, one dissent. From the two black members of the Supreme Court

00:08:42.060 offering very different visions of race and affirmative action and the Constitution, which we'll get to in

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00:10:03.380 The Libs love Justice Ketanji Jackson. She's the new one. She's the Biden appointee. 0.74

00:10:12.020 And Ketanji Jackson. She's feisty. They like her because she's a woman. They like her because she's 0.54

00:10:18.340 black. They like her for all these kind of more superficial, skin-deep reasons, sexual reasons. 0.99

00:10:25.240 And they like her because she's extremely radical. She didn't know what a woman was. She couldn't 1.00

00:10:30.040 define a woman at her confirmation hearings. So I didn't have very high hopes for her 0.86

00:10:33.460 dissent in this case. And my low expectations were proven correct. Here's what she wrote.

00:10:41.600 This is the portion of Ketanji Jackson's dissent that all the Libs are sharing around.

00:10:45.700 They say, quote, with let-them-eat-cake obliviousness today, the majority pulls the

00:10:51.620 ripcord and announces colorblindness for all by legal fiat. But deeming race irrelevant in law does

00:10:57.860 not make it so in life. And having so detached itself from this country's actual past and present

00:11:03.320 experiences, the court has now been lured into interfering with the crucial work that UNC and

00:11:08.880 other institutions of higher learning are doing to solve America's real-world problems.

00:11:14.880 No one benefits from ignorance, although formal race-linked legal barriers are gone. Race still

00:11:19.880 matters to the lived experiences. And it's just a blah, blah, blah, lived experience. It's basically,

00:11:25.360 my friend Spencer Claven pointed this out. Going in here, the students bringing the case and the group

00:11:32.360 bringing the case on behalf of the students saying, hey, we don't want to be discriminated against just

00:11:35.700 we're Asian or white. They had the law on their side. They had philosophy on their side. They had

00:11:40.100 morality on their side. They had the opinion of the conservative judges on their side. They had the

00:11:43.680 opinion of very prominent liberal judges on their side. They had a pretty good case. And on the pro-race 0.65

00:11:49.800 discrimination side of this case, they had diversity is our strength, the lived experiences

00:11:57.040 of the racial oppression. And it's just that didn't, that was not a legally persuasive view.

00:12:05.600 And it hasn't persuaded the majority of the American people. The funniest part of Justice

00:12:09.720 Jackson's very silly dissent is that first line of this section. Let them eat cake obliviousness. 0.94

00:12:19.280 Because what that term does is reveals Justice Jackson's obliviousness. We know she's oblivious. 1.00

00:12:26.580 She doesn't know what a woman is. But she's also oblivious to history. Because that phrase, 0.99

00:12:29.680 let them eat cake, is a phrase attributed to Marie Antoinette. When Marie Antoinette supposedly 0.99

00:12:35.720 was told that the peasants didn't have bread to eat, she said, let them eat cake, let them eat

00:12:39.540 triosh. But it's a total fabrication. It was made up. The line actually predates Marie Antoinette.

00:12:44.680 No great princess said it. It's just fake. It's just total fake news. And the libs fall into their 1.00

00:12:49.300 fake news all the time. And they are oblivious to history and biology and philosophy and the law,

00:12:57.480 apparently. And so it's over. What does Justice Thomas say in response to this? He answers Jackson.

00:13:03.280 He says, accordingly, Justice Jackson's race-infused worldview falls flat at each step.

00:13:07.920 Individuals are the sum of their unique experiences, challenges, and accomplishments.

00:13:10.980 What matters is not the barriers they face, but how they choose to confront them.

00:13:15.520 And their race is not to blame for everything, good or bad, that happens in their lives.

00:13:19.900 A contrary myopic worldview based on individual skin color to the total exclusion

00:13:24.240 of their personal choices is nothing short of racial determinism. So true. Two different 0.97

00:13:29.780 visions of race. One conservative from Justice Thomas, one liberal from Justice Jackson. Thomas is

00:13:35.780 a Catholic. You can just tell this in his writing, in the way he speaks. Justice Thomas has

00:13:40.960 the Christian view here, specifically a very Catholic view of the world. Justice Jackson,

00:13:45.160 again, her religion is just racial grievance and liberalism and whining and pride. Thomas's hard

00:13:50.620 work, humility, gratitude. Jackson's envy, resentment, pride, anger, wrath. All the stuff we associate

00:13:58.500 with the libs. And as has happened now a couple times from the Supreme Court recently, and what

00:14:06.160 happens rarely in our political life, the good side won. Really, really great stuff. Speaking of

00:14:11.840 freedom, a big debate has broken out over whether Elon Musk should ban the word cis, C-I-S, from

00:14:17.860 Twitter. And it's still raging. I mentioned this on the show a few days ago, but it's still raging.

00:14:23.440 And Brad Palumbo, my debate partner from the University of Pittsburgh, and Brad pinch hit after

00:14:29.420 the transgender-identifying professor that I was supposed to debate on issues of gender and sex

00:14:36.100 dropped out at the last minute because he felt that he couldn't do the debate. So Brad comes in,

00:14:41.340 and Brad is a self-described libertarian. And he says, Elon Musk is the worst free speech hero ever.

00:14:51.580 And that's because you should be able to say anything on Twitter. And if you don't, this is

00:14:56.300 absolutely terrible. And of course, Brad is wrong here. And I wrote a book about how

00:15:01.260 what Elon is doing is fabulous. The book is called Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Wines,

00:15:04.920 number one national bestseller. Thank you very much. This is one of the most encouraging things

00:15:08.680 that Elon has done because it shows a sophistication, not just a sophomoric, very elementary

00:15:14.860 vision of politics that is based on modern, incoherent ideologies that have never been put into

00:15:21.420 practice effectively anywhere in the world throughout all of human history. But he's recognizing that

00:15:26.000 there's nuance here. We support free speech, but when we support free speech, we're supporting a

00:15:29.960 tradition, not something in the abstract floating in outer space, but a real tradition with exclusions,

00:15:34.720 exclusions like threats, like obscenity, like fighting words, like fraud, like all of these sorts of

00:15:40.940 things. And Elon is a great figure in technology and business. But a lot of guys, when they dip their

00:15:48.980 toes from their areas of expertise into politics, they sometimes demonstrate a great deal of ignorance.

00:15:55.420 Elon here, I think, is demonstrating a lot of sophistication. And you see it actually

00:16:00.040 in the case of the affirmative action decision. The whole thing is about standards. And the

00:16:07.580 affirmative action case asks, what kind of standards are we going to have in this country?

00:16:11.940 And so far, what the judges are saying now is we're going to have something closer to a meritocracy.

00:16:17.200 And before that, on affirmative action, you're going to have something closer to a racial hierarchy

00:16:21.620 with black people and Native Americans, and I don't know, at the top of it. And then maybe

00:16:27.140 Hispanics, they go a little bit lower. And then Asians and white people at the bottom. And if you're 1.00

00:16:32.960 a member of a favored race, you get special treatment. And if you're a member of a disfavored race,

00:16:36.960 you're the scum of the earth and you're going to be discriminated against. That was the view that 1.00

00:16:41.680 predominated for the last many decades, four or five decades, maybe six decades now, I guess.

00:16:49.320 Now, what happened before that? A lot of conservatives want to be a little simplistic

00:16:53.200 about this and say, well, before affirmative action, you just had a pure meritocracy. But

00:16:56.760 that's not quite true. And we don't just have quite a pure meritocracy now because there are other

00:17:00.660 factors at play. There is legacy admissions. Legacy admissions don't favor the highest test scores.

00:17:10.440 They favor people with a tie to the university. The pure meritocrats say we need to get rid of

00:17:15.240 legacy admissions. But that's not a conservative point of view. You want some continuity. You want

00:17:19.140 people to say, no, my family has had a connection to this institution, not just a college, but maybe a

00:17:23.960 church, maybe a neighborhood, maybe a community organization, maybe a Senate seat, for goodness

00:17:32.260 sakes. Tradition and continuity and the kind of experience that you don't just learn out of a

00:17:39.580 textbook or learn on your own for the first time, but that is imbued into you and your family from

00:17:44.120 birth. That's a pretty conservative thing. We like tradition. We like things outside of pure

00:17:50.240 rationalistic book learning. Okay, there's that. There is the essay. And the college essay is supposed

00:17:58.140 to figure out how well you think and how well you write. But that personal statement also says

00:18:03.420 something about who you are, what your experiences are. Probably now the people who do want to

00:18:08.600 discriminate against white people in college admissions, they will just increase the importance 1.00

00:18:13.680 of the personal essay. And they will use that as a way to say, okay, if the person indicates that he is

00:18:19.920 not white, then we'll give him a little bit more of an advantage here. So that's not just a pure

00:18:26.200 meritocracy. And before affirmative action, that's certainly true. There were inherited privileges. 0.82

00:18:33.780 Obviously, there was a different kind of racial discrimination in the country. And all sorts of

00:18:39.380 other little prejudices and all sorts of other little ineffable complications of life that made

00:18:48.560 things a little bit different. At the founding of the country, my friend Saurabh Amari pointed this out

00:18:52.640 on Twitter just yesterday. The Jeffersonian ideal, which you might say was a pure meritocracy, wasn't

00:18:58.260 quite a pure meritocracy. It was this idea that you have a lot of yeoman farmers, that you'd have a lot

00:19:02.540 of people who had their own property and their own land, but not grand estates, just relatively more

00:19:10.740 modest Republican, lowercase r types of land. So there are all these different views and different

00:19:17.660 standards. And I think we just need to be aware of that all the time, because we can fall into the

00:19:22.540 same trap of saying, no, the absolutely, totally, purely objective neutral standard is meritocracy.

00:19:28.200 No, that's not really totally neutral either. That's an ideology too. The totally, absolutely

00:19:33.160 free, unregulated free market, that's the neutral thing. No, that's a standard too. And some people

00:19:38.020 might object to that standard. So we need to be a little bit more forthright about it. This is a big

00:19:41.760 step in the right direction. We need to be even clearer moving forward. This is such big news. I had a lot

00:19:48.500 of other things that I really wanted to get to today, but we've got a lot to do. We've got Fake

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00:22:33.460 Show. So one of the things we do for the crème de la crème is a fake headline Friday where

00:22:38.440 the, oh, we have a stinger that I always forget. So it plays. I just talk to Mr. Davies just

00:22:45.180 to irritate me. He still hits that stinger even though I'm always going to miss it. So Mr.

00:22:49.460 Davies finds all these articles. Most of them are real headlines. One of them is a fake

00:22:55.700 headline that he made up. I have to guess with your help and with the help of the

00:22:59.400 membreum segmentum audience, the crème de la crème, which one is the fake one? So let's

00:23:05.440 see. First one up. Opinion. That gas-powered car you're thinking of buying over an electric

00:23:11.120 vehicle won't be as nice in 10 years when you have to explain to your grandkids it's

00:23:14.100 the reason they have no clean air to breathe. There are two types of people in this world,

00:23:19.080 those who only think in the moment and those who think in the future. The problem with this

00:23:24.000 headline, of course, is if your grandkids, God forbid, had no clean air to breathe, you

00:23:27.400 wouldn't have to explain anything to them because we'd all be goners. I think that's

00:23:31.260 a real headline. I think that one's true. Next one. Devil baby born with tail horns and hooves.

00:23:38.760 Of all the hideous human malformations ever heard of in the state, the five weeks old offspring

00:23:44.000 of Charles and Sarah. I was going to say this happened in India because sometimes India,

00:23:48.760 which doesn't necessarily have the greatest healthcare, you'll hear of some birth defects

00:23:55.200 and because of their religion, which has all sorts of eccentric kind of depictions of humanity

00:24:01.260 and various spiritual beings, someone will be born with a deformity and this will be taken

00:24:09.480 as something with deep spiritual meaning. But it's not. Charles and Sarah are not exactly

00:24:13.420 Hindu names. Tail horns and hooves. Goodness gracious. I can't imagine that's real, 1.00

00:24:20.180 but it's so insane. I'd say maybe it's real. I'd say maybe. I took in a Ukrainian refugee to live 1.00

00:24:24.940 with my wife and me and ran off with her after 10 days. We're in love. Yeah, I bet there's more to

00:24:32.360 this story than just, oh, oops, I took in this really smoking hot young Ukrainian lady refugee and,

00:24:39.720 oh, we just, what do you know? We just fell in love. I'd be, I want to see that guy's search

00:24:43.880 history. A dad of two has run off with a Ukrainian refugee just 10 days after he and his partner

00:24:48.120 welcomed her into their home. Yeah, I kind of believe that. I don't know. Wouldn't be surprised.

00:24:53.100 All is fair in love and war, I guess. No, no, I don't really totally buy that. Palestinians say 1.00

00:24:57.620 London's Big Ben was stolen from them. Such lies speak to the root cause of the Israeli-Palestinian 1.00

00:25:05.160 conflict. It's hard to believe that one, but it's kind of, I don't know, man. This is kind

00:25:14.280 of a hard week. I'd say maybe. Cows lose their jobs as milk prices drop. As 100 dairy cows lumbered

00:25:23.320 over Monday afternoon milking. Farmer Eric Foster pondered his sudden misfortune. Okay,

00:25:27.140 I say this is, that one's real. I say that one's real. I'm going to say devil born with tail

00:25:32.560 horns and hooves. I know this is weird. I'm going to say this one's real. It's just because 0.57

00:25:35.880 it's just so outlandish. Opinion, the gas-powered car. I'm going to say that one is real. Two types

00:25:44.160 of people in this world, those who only think in the moment, those who think about the future.

00:25:48.520 Okay, this is my holdup on this one. There is an error. Sometimes there are errors of grammar

00:25:56.500 and punctuation and spelling. This one, the capital T after the colon, that raises my eyebrows.

00:26:05.860 Palestinians say, so producer Jacob is on just a jihad against the Palestinian people. And so I don't

00:26:11.800 think he would include one that was ridiculous about the Palestinians if it weren't true. But this 0.78

00:26:19.220 one is pretty outlandish. So I'm going to say, still leaning like kind of no. I took any Ukrainian 1.00

00:26:23.880 refugee. This one I do sort of buy. Okay, so it's between these three here. I'm going to say, 1.00

00:26:30.480 when I follow my gut on the grammar and punctuation and spelling errors, I'm often correct. So I'm going

00:26:36.300 to say it's the opinion one that's fake. But I don't, I really don't know. And I, all right,

00:26:42.040 let's just see. We'll see. See what happens. Who knows? We're heading into a nice 4th of July weekend.

00:26:46.720 Oh, man. There it is, baby. And it's a meme of Ben Shapiro on memory TV, which is really quite,

00:27:02.880 quite funny. Wow. Big one by the skin of my teeth on that one. It was one capitalization after a colon

00:27:12.000 that got it. So it means that Palestinians believe that Big Ben was stolen from them.

00:27:17.520 What? What does that mean? I don't know what that mean. What mean? What mean, man? Ukrainian 1.00

00:27:26.320 refugee, that poor wife. I kind of want to see if there's a picture of the Ukrainian lady that caused 1.00

00:27:30.660 this poor schlub to leave his husband, his wife. Devil baby born with tail and hooves. Okay, well, 0.99

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00:28:33.740 My favorite comment yesterday is from Thank You Pete. Or is that Ty Pete? Whatever his name,

00:28:41.740 he says, Sexy Mike, I went to the barber and got my new haircut like yours. My wife says I am crazy,

00:28:48.600 but I think I look fabulous. So I'm honored to hear that. Thank you.

00:28:54.440 I think we do look fabulous, Pete.

00:28:56.660 I one time was walking in Georgetown, and a guy comes up to me and says to me,

00:29:06.800 hey, you don't know me, but I'm introducing myself, and I just want you to know,

00:29:10.680 I went to the barber last week and showed him a picture of your hair and say that I want to get

00:29:14.200 this haircut. I'm really honored, and I say this with humility, because this haircut, I've had this

00:29:18.240 since I was six, and it's only a slight alteration on the haircut that I had previously when I was

00:29:22.140 five. I've never changed my haircut since then, and it's just the haircut that guys had in the

00:29:27.680 40s. That's all it is. There's nothing really totally different about it, and you can have it

00:29:32.180 too. You can have that too. Now we finally arrived at my favorite time of the week when I get to hear

00:29:36.800 from you in the mailbag sponsored by Pure Talk. Go to puretalk.com. Select a plan and enter code

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00:29:46.840 Hello, Smokey Mike. This is Julia, your number one fangirl, and I'm sure that you've missed hearing

00:29:51.480 my dulcet tones in the voicemail bag. So I was having a conversation with my brother the other day.

00:29:57.960 His name is also Michael, and I had told him that while I'd never do these things, I had a morbid

00:30:04.520 curiosity for tarot and Reiki and all that witchy stuff. Michael had commented that he

00:30:11.500 had a similar morbid curiosity, but more for the psychedelics. He also noted that a lot of his

00:30:17.360 female friends tend to be into the fortune-telling witchy side of that, and his male friends tended to

00:30:24.800 also have a morbid curiosity for psychedelics. So my two questions to you are, one, do you think that

00:30:32.560 these things are two sides of the same coin? And number two, do you think that maybe one has a more

00:30:38.520 feminine side to it and the other has a more masculine side to it? Thanks. Love to hear your

00:30:42.520 answer.

00:30:44.380 Yeah. Yeah, I do think that. I think that psychedelics are very bad things to do

00:30:51.540 because they open up spiritual portals that are really not great. And this is the reason that

00:30:59.960 the libs today promote psychedelics, is they say, oh man, it just puts you at one in touch with the

00:31:05.480 universe, man. It really helped me overcome, you know, some bad stuff, man. And I know, and I'm sure

00:31:10.220 many people do think that it has helped them. And I do think that it puts you in touch with all sorts

00:31:15.120 of different entities, but I don't think they're great entities. And if you want to hear more about

00:31:19.240 this, you can listen to my interview with a guy who had taken a lot of psychedelics and what he felt

00:31:24.960 that did to him. I have friends who've taken psychedelics and I had a friend, he told me, he said,

00:31:30.480 you know, one thing I love about this particular psychedelic I took is it just, it showed me, man,

00:31:36.440 I was worried about so much stuff I don't need to be worried about, you know, I was really worried

00:31:40.380 about like sin. I had all this guilt, you know, I just got rid of that. I'm not worried about hell

00:31:44.600 anymore. I'm not worried about sin. And his family broke down. He left his family shortly thereafter.

00:31:49.840 It happens, you know, it's not, it's not good. I don't want to seem like I'm saying that everything

00:31:58.460 is demons. There's a demon under every rock, but there are demons who crouch about seeking the ruin

00:32:01.980 of souls, prowling all over the world. And psychedelics seem even to be referenced in ancient

00:32:08.480 literature and in the book of Enoch, for instance, the book of Enoch, which is referred to in the Bible,

00:32:13.480 but it's not a canonical book of the Bible. It's a kind of mysterious old book. It talks about how

00:32:18.820 the demons came down and taught man how to use roots, you know, and use different kind of

00:32:24.260 plants and things like that, which seems to be a reference to psychedelics. So that's true.

00:32:30.140 And why do men like the drugs while women like the weird astrology stuff? Because men are a little 0.98

00:32:34.640 more reckless, especially when it comes to their bodies than women are. Men are more likely to take 1.00

00:32:39.140 risks with their bodies, you know, jump out of an airplane, drive really fast and do drugs, drink too

00:32:47.160 much. Uh, women, women delve more into other kinds of temptations, you know, gossip, astrology, 1.00

00:32:55.060 complaining, all this, they're a little, they're just, I'm not saying women sin more than men or men

00:33:00.780 sin more than women. We just are tempted toward different vices. Next one. 1.00

00:33:05.320 Hey, dirty Mike, Mr. Reality again. Uh, I wanted to ask you about lobotomies and trans surgeries. 1.00

00:33:13.220 Do you think that trans surgeries are our generation's version of lobotomies? They seem 1.00

00:33:19.520 to have a lot in common when I look at them both. They're both a ghoulish surgery. They're both

00:33:24.280 pioneered and expanded by crackpot doctors with the apparent full endorsement of the medical community.

00:33:30.340 They both cause permanent harm to individuals. They're both used to treat mental illnesses and

00:33:37.100 the vast majority of people who get them aren't helped or are made worse off. So my question is,

00:33:42.320 do you think they're almost, uh, sister procedures in a way? And do you think that the trans surgeries

00:33:48.920 will go the way of the lobotomies where eventually everyone will realize it was a terrible idea or do you

00:33:55.200 see it going somewhere else? Thanks. Yeah. People already realize that they're a terrible idea.

00:34:01.780 And the New York Times just reported on this. The New York Times was citing a new study that just

00:34:06.300 came out about the, the transgender phenomenon and how it might not be conducive to human flourishing.

00:34:12.920 Majority of people, uh, and in the end, an increasing vast majority of people don't believe

00:34:19.640 in transgenderism. So people realize this. And yeah, I think the, the comparison is, is apt. 1.00

00:34:23.980 Uh, but then there'll just be some other kooky thing that people do. You know, we, we have this

00:34:29.600 idea. I mean, we don't, if you're listening to this show, you probably don't have this idea,

00:34:32.880 but a lot of people do today that in the present, we've basically figured everything out and science

00:34:39.080 is really good. And we're not superstitious and mistaken like those old benighted people in the 0.97

00:34:44.840 past. We're really smart and modern and we have science. So we get it, but we don't, it's all the

00:34:50.120 same. It's just witchdoctory. It's just, it's just shamanism all the way down. And science is

00:34:57.460 mostly fake and it's, it's a realm of applicability is extraordinarily narrow. And we still don't even

00:35:03.500 do that all that well. And in many cases, for instance, we know very, very little about the brain.

00:35:08.960 Um, and we know even less, less than perhaps we've ever known about, about human nature and the

00:35:17.320 relation between body and spirit and mind and brain, you know, the physical and the metaphysical

00:35:22.020 and what a human is and what a man is and what a woman is. And so, yeah, yeah, we're, we're,

00:35:28.120 we're engaging in extraordinarily harmful medical practices now. And then once we figure that out,

00:35:34.020 who knows when, when that will be put into practice where we can actually ban these things, 0.99

00:35:38.620 then they'll find some other stupid thing to do. So that's because it's a fallen world and that's 0.97

00:35:42.300 how it works. Next one. Hey, Michael, Alex here with a mailbag question for you. Love the show,

00:35:48.380 regular watcher slash listener. Anyway, uh, I have to actually have two questions. One,

00:35:53.500 so you had mentioned multiple times that RFK on your podcast is a very anti-second amendment.

00:35:59.940 Um, I, upon research, that isn't true. Uh, his latest comments about that is he is for the

00:36:06.320 second amendment. He is for, uh, all, all second amendment rights and he's also for strong borders

00:36:12.020 and whatnot. So is there something that you know that we don't? And then my second question is

00:36:16.940 in regards to the transgender laws that multiple States are putting into place, banning transgender

00:36:22.020 surgeries for minors, banning puberty blockers, whatnot, multiple rogue judges have been blocking

00:36:27.280 these laws claiming they're quote unquote unconstitutional. So as conservatives, how do

00:36:32.260 we get past that? How do we get past the doom and gloom of you pass these laws, case laws,

00:36:37.160 which are great, but then they're shut down by rogue, uh, far left judges. So love the show,

00:36:42.180 Michael. Thanks. Okay. I'll take the questions in order. I'm glad that RFK has changed his tune

00:36:46.940 on a number of political issues. Uh, but it's a change of tune. RFK Jr. has been a liberal Democrat

00:36:55.100 for his entire life. He's a Kennedy. And I know that now we look at the Kennedys on the right and

00:37:02.020 we say, Oh, Jack Kennedy might've been a Republican had he been alive today, which I don't think is

00:37:06.320 true. Uh, but we say, look, wow, the, he was so much more reasonable than the modern Democrats,

00:37:12.100 which, which is true, but that's just because he was living in his time and ideas have consequences

00:37:17.060 and political movements follow those ideas to their logical conclusions. And, uh, Bobby Kennedy is a,

00:37:22.880 has been a liberal Democrat for his life. I think he now sees that one, the corruption of the political

00:37:28.380 establishment is perhaps even worse than he previously suspected. The way that he has been

00:37:34.320 attacked by that establishment for raising questions about vaccines now for like 15 years,

00:37:38.760 uh, has probably, uh, cemented that view. And after COVID, a lot of conservatives became skeptical

00:37:47.740 of vaccines in the medical establishment. So that attracted conservatives to Bobby Kennedy Jr.

00:37:51.720 and Bobby Kennedy now realizes that his most ardent fans are not on the left, they're on the right.

00:37:56.820 And so he, a politician from one of the most famous political families in the country is probably

00:38:01.980 either playing up to that audience a little bit more or sincerely moving more toward their side of

00:38:08.900 the political spectrum. So great. I'm glad that he's changing on that, but, but you know, you,

00:38:14.520 you can see, you can read his past comments on these issues. Uh, this does represent a change as

00:38:20.720 for the judges striking down good laws and perfectly just laws. It's very, very frustrating. So what we

00:38:26.280 have to do is just keep pushing again and again and again, how many times was Roe versus Wade,

00:38:34.820 uh, upheld? Well, it was most famously upheld in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, but how many times did

00:38:41.580 lower court judges, uh, refer to Roe v. Wade as the settled law of the land? How many times did

00:38:47.460 legal challenges to Roe v. Wade fail and reach a dead end? It just went on and on and on for 49 years.

00:38:53.020 For half a century, the, the courts insisted, no, you're, you don't get to pass your pro-life laws.

00:38:58.760 No, you don't get to challenge Roe v. Wade. And then through amazing circumstance, through

00:39:04.980 Antonin Scalia going to his eternal reward unexpectedly, followed by an improbable

00:39:13.280 world historical figure, presidential candidate winning the election when the genius has told us

00:39:19.900 99% chance he'd lose and then appointing three judges and Mitch McConnell holding Scalia's seat

00:39:27.160 open until you potentially got a Republican president. Then Trump appoints three judges and

00:39:32.080 then the three judges worked to overrule Roe v. Wade. We were prepared and then opportunity came

00:39:36.460 and we were able to affect what we wanted, albeit 49 years later. And I think you're going to see

00:39:42.840 that with the trans issue too. You just got to keep chipping away. You got to play, you just got to 0.93

00:39:47.920 play a game of determination and keep up that moral clarity and courage and keep up the fight.

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00:40:23.260 name. Hi, Michael. I'm hoping you can provide me with some advice on women. I'm 26 years old and I've

00:40:29.360 never had a girlfriend. I'm not really sure how to strike up a conversation, approach women or even

00:40:35.180 really a good place to meet them. I have a pretty good job. I go to church and my life is fairly well

00:40:40.320 put together. So I'm not a total loser, but especially over the past few years, I've been struggling with

00:40:46.160 loneliness and was hoping you could help me out here. Thank you. Pal, really sorry to hear about

00:40:51.860 that. It really pains me when I hear about people being lonely. It pains me more than almost any other

00:41:01.440 issue I think of. It's not the most egregious thing. First of all, everybody's lonely sometimes.

00:41:06.880 And it's not worse than say, you know, being murdered or raped or, you know, I mean, there are many things

00:41:12.940 that are worse objectively than being lonely, but being lonely just really feels awful. And it pains me

00:41:19.840 when I think of friends and family of mine who have felt lonely at different times. It just, it's,

00:41:23.860 it really, really pains me. And what's bizarre about the time we're living in is that loneliness is

00:41:30.160 something that many, many people seem to be doing more than in the past. You think that if everybody's

00:41:37.460 doing something, you wouldn't be lonely. When you're lonely, you're the only one doing it. But, but people

00:41:42.100 are just so isolated and so alienated that you might take some comfort in that loneliness as a group

00:41:47.900 activity these days. How do you overcome that? Well, just, here's just a little, quick little tip.

00:41:54.580 This is not a real long-term answer to your, when you're feeling really, really lonely. Crack open a

00:41:58.920 book. Crack open a good book. Reading a book, a good book is the only activity that you can do alone

00:42:05.020 that will make you feel less lonely. But that's just, that's just a Tylenol. You know, that's just a

00:42:09.440 little band-aid. How do you fix the loneliness problem generally? And specifically for you,

00:42:14.480 you don't have a girlfriend or a wife. Well, I would reach out to your family and say,

00:42:22.380 hey, can you introduce me to somebody? Because you're not really alone. You got some family,

00:42:28.120 presumably, and let's say your family's all dead, God forbid. Well, you have a job, right? You have

00:42:31.920 co-workers. Do you ever talk to your co-workers? Maybe you don't. Some people don't talk to you,

00:42:37.160 but I bet you talk to them a little bit where I say good morning or something like that.

00:42:40.160 But maybe you strike up a conversation with a co-worker. Maybe it's a dude. I'm not suggesting

00:42:44.740 that you, you know, lighten up those loafers. I'm suggesting, though, that any real human connection

00:42:49.360 can lead to being able to meet a woman. And you say, hey, you know, I'm looking for a girlfriend,

00:42:55.960 basically. Do you know any cute girls around here? Do you know any? Hey, your wife, you know, 1.00

00:43:00.180 does she have a cousin? Does she have this, that, or the other thing? You know, it's kind of like the

00:43:04.680 more you work, the more you work. People think that, you know, the way to have a great career

00:43:09.720 is to just wait for the perfect career to come along. But anyone who's ever had a great career

00:43:12.500 knows that the way that you get it is you just work all the time. Well, it's the same thing for

00:43:16.180 social life. The way that you make really great friends is you just hang out with people, you know,

00:43:22.500 and you just strike up conversations in the elevator, you know. You just talk to your co-workers.

00:43:27.080 You smile a little bit and you ask how people are doing. You're genuinely interested in people

00:43:31.100 and that will do it. I've been really blessed. I've had a great love life and romantic life

00:43:37.880 and marriage life. And I've had great friendships too, but it's exceedingly rare these days. And

00:43:42.460 friendship, I think, is rarer even than romance because we denigrate that now and we say that

00:43:48.020 love is love. You know, we say that all love just has to be romantic or erotic love rather than

00:43:53.820 filial love, you know, rather than the love of God or all of these things. So you're not alone in

00:44:00.720 dealing with this problem, but my solution for you would be to throw spaghetti at the wall.

00:44:08.340 Surely you have some family member somewhere or surely you've got some co-worker somewhere or

00:44:13.140 surely you sit next to someone in the church and maybe you don't make conversation all the time.

00:44:17.200 Well, just make conversation. Say, well, wasn't that a lovely hymn? And make, oh, what a beautiful

00:44:21.580 day it is. You know, any ordinary icebreaker small talk kind of language. You might think it sounds

00:44:28.260 silly because no one likes small talk, but the point of small talk is not to talk about the

00:44:31.700 weather. No one cares about the weather. The point of small talk is to make a human connection and you 0.93

00:44:35.700 can do it. You say you're around people, well, talk to them. All right, we've got the written mailbag

00:44:41.600 coming up. Oh no, we don't because we, oh my goodness, this is so, so devastating. We have no

00:44:49.640 member block today. Oh, and I've, okay, well, you know what? I'm going to go over then because I have

00:44:54.440 one, one mailbag that I want to get to. This is from David. It says, I've never seen anyone make

00:45:00.540 ukulele seem as fun as you do. Thank you very much. Kind of an old dog, but I'm interested now.

00:45:05.200 How would you recommend going about learning to play the ukulele? What kind of, what kind would

00:45:08.540 you suggest to start out? Should I just grab a $40 instrument off of Amazon and start strumming?

00:45:12.600 Thanks for all that you do. Yes, the ukulele is my favorite instrument probably. It's the most fun

00:45:17.520 instrument. Four strings. It's very, very easy. The standard tuning is G starting at, not at the top,

00:45:24.240 it's kind of confusing because when we say the top of an instrument, we're talking about the high

00:45:27.180 notes, but the high notes are on the, physically on the bottom of the instrument. But anyway,

00:45:30.780 starting out as you would strum it down, it's G, higher G, then lower down to a C, then E,

00:45:37.060 then A. There we go. I've just taught you how to tune your ukulele. You pull it up on YouTube.

00:45:42.220 How to play You Are My Sunshine. How to play, you pull up some of my videos. I've done some

00:45:46.380 arrangements of little ukatunes. You can just pull them up on Instagram, just mimic what I'm doing.

00:45:50.760 Pull up little chords, learn your chords. It's easier even than guitar, and guitar is a relatively

00:45:55.060 easy instrument to learn. I wouldn't spend $40. I'd spend like $60. You can get Cordova.

00:45:59.660 Cordova instruments are pretty good for beginner ukes. The soprano one is the classic uke sound. It's

00:46:05.140 a little bit small. The concert ukulele is a little bit bigger. Probably a little easier to learn how to

00:46:09.680 fret, though it doesn't quite have that fun, bright, jangly ukulele sound.

00:46:15.560 I had an Oscar Schmidt. I still have it. An Oscar Schmidt by Washburn Ukulele, which is

00:46:21.120 relatively quite inexpensive. I paid $60 for it 15 years ago, more than 15 years ago now.

00:46:28.480 Goodness, great. Like 21 years ago, probably I got it. Anyway, you can get these things. You can get

00:46:32.640 really expensive ukes, too, but get a cheap one. $100 uke, $60 uke, and pull up some YouTube videos and

00:46:38.660 start playing it. You will not regret it. No one's too old, and no one's too musically talentless to

00:46:45.580 learn the ukulele. That's our show. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you next time.

00:46:49.780 We'll see you next time.

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The Michael Knowles Show - June 30, 2023

Ep. 1279 - Supreme Court Finally Ends Affirmative Action

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