Ep. 1282 - Culture Splits On Viral ＂Was That Person Real？＂ Video
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A woman freaked out on an American Airlines flight over the weekend, and since we now live in a culture that encourages people to film people in distress rather than to help them, the poor lady has gone viral. Was she having a psychotic break? Did she have a few too many drinks at the airport bar? Was her seatmate not real? I don t know.
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A woman freaked out on an American Airlines flight over the weekend, and since we now live in a
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culture that encourages people to film people in distress rather than to help them, the poor lady
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has gone viral. Say whatever you want. I'm telling you, I'm getting the f**k off, and there's a reason
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why I'm getting the f**k off, and everyone can either believe it or they cannot believe it.
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I don't give two f**k, but I am telling you right now, that motherf**k, that motherf**k back there is
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not real. And you can sit on this plane, and you can f**k die with them or not. I'm not going to.
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So what happened? Was the woman having a psychotic break? Did she have a few too many drinks at the
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airport bar? Was her seatmate not real? I don't know. Seems unlikely, but maybe Matt's right,
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and she saw an alien. Or maybe, since Matt is not right, maybe she saw a demon. I don't know.
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I don't know. I have very little interest in observing a woman's apparent meltdown on an
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airplane, but I have a great interest in observing culture. And I can't help but notice, in this case,
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how different the reaction is from the last big viral moment that our whole culture embraced.
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A couple of months ago, a vagrant, violent criminal with a rap sheet a mile long, a man who had
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recently beaten up elderly men and women, walked onto a New York City subway train and threatened
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to kill people. And our culture makers, our media, our political establishment, they treated that man
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as the most innocent, downtrodden, sympathetic break dancer ever to moonwalk onto the F train.
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An oppressed black man struck down by the scourge of white supremacy, that ubiquitous deadly scourge.
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And then, this past weekend, a white woman had an emotional outburst and walked off an airplane
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without threatening anyone. And she is now a universal object of mockery and derision,
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a dumb, stupid Karen who should probably be arrested and put on some meds.
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What matters about the airline freakout video is not whether that lady thought her seatmate was a
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real person or not. More significant about the video is whether the viewers think the lady
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freaking out is a real person herself. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Knowles today. Speaking of viral moments, there's another one that's gone viral now because a mainstream
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network news outlet is celebrating a video of two men taking a baby and claiming it as theirs. We'll get into
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that a little bit later. First, though, I don't want to move off the lady on the airplane just yet
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because there was a major update this morning. When I saw that video, I thought,
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look, maybe she had a few too many at the airport. It's happened to the best of us.
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But what did she see? She probably saw something. She's clearly afraid of something. And because I
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recognize that there is spiritual warfare in the world, I thought, I don't know, maybe,
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I don't know, maybe she saw something that at least signified or symbolized something that might
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be real and genuinely scary. And then my associate producer, Young Jacob today, was it Mr. Davies?
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One of the two of them points out that there's a follow-up video by a guy who says he's the one
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who freaked the woman out. And the guy turns out to be a face-tattooed Freemason who called himself
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Lucifer. All right. So the internet has heard the story of the woman on the plane with the
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reptilians. But thanks to her delaying the flight, I just got home. So now it's my opportunity to tell
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my side of the story as the guy in the hoodie. So we're attempting to fly out of Dallas, Fort Worth.
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And then basically this woman, she sits next to me and she's clearly been drinking. I'm minding my
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own business. And sure enough, she sees my hoodie that has this Freemason logo on it. Put a pause
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right there. I'm just minding my own business. This, you know, Ben Shapiro of every
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observation he's ever made in his life, his best one, is the observation about face tattoo syndrome,
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which is someone tattoos their whole face. They make a huge spectacle of themselves in a way that
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is really spooky and grotesque. And then they just wait for you to notice it. And then they get angry
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when you notice it. See, what are you looking at? What are you looking at? Oh, I don't know. The
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attention you demanded. That's what I'm offering you because you've tattooed your face in a way that
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is menacing and spooky. And you've got all these occult symbols all over you. And then you get angry
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at me for noticing the thing that you were begging me to notice. Keep going.
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And on top of that, she noticed my ring. So she started to ask questions. Nothing dramatic. Just
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ask me, do I know what these symbols mean? Why am I wearing it? What's the purpose? Yada, yada,
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yada. And long story short, I basically just say, hey, I'm a Freemason. I even briefly explained how I
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educate about Freemasonry here on TikTok. Next thing I know, she basically starts to grill me about low
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level Freemason and that it's all Satanism and that it's ruled by reptilians and blah,
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blah, blah. So I simply put my hood up and I started to ignore her and basically just mind
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my own business. She starts getting louder and louder. And then basically she's like,
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you know that they worship Lucifer at the top, right? So I looked at her dead in her eyes and I
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said, I am Lucifer. I heard one individual laugh behind me. So I figured somebody got a kick out of
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it. At least she starts running up and down the aisles, freaking out, saying I'm a reptilian. And then
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all this other stuff, she's going to get off the plane, yada, yada, yada. It doesn't show all the
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footage. It just says that she's trying to get off the plane because of, you know, I'm not going to
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say it here on TikTok. I don't want to get banned. But then also talking about how like I'm secretly
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also trying to take over the world. So I looked back at the guy that was basically chuckling before
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and I winked at him. So I basically whispered something under my breath saying that Freemasons
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don't care to rule the world. We rule the universe. And I looked back at the guy that was laughing
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before and just kind of winked at him because he started laughing again. Well, I didn't think that she
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could hear me, but evidently she did. And it's a big joke, huh? Further. And then they delayed flight
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and so on and so forth. So moral of the story, don't believe everything you hear on the internet
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and Freemasons don't care to rule the world when we rule the universe. So
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this was a twist that not a lot of people expected. The woman, especially if, if we're assuming she had a
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few drinks at the airport bar, pretty much totally vindicated, right? He puts yourself in her shoes
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and you're sitting there next to a face tatted up guy who's got a cult symbolism all over his body,
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who says that he's Lucifer and controls the universe. I think she's pretty vindicated and justified. Now
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you might say, well, he's just joking. He's just being ironic. And I guess my objection to that point
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is I think irony ends once you tattoo your face. I think that's pretty much the end of irony. I've
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observed on this show before that if you behave in an ironic way for your whole life, it's no longer
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ironic. It becomes earnest because there's no way to distinguish between irony and sincerity.
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I think the moment that tattoo gun hits your face, that's when the irony ceases. I think you're
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pretty committed to the bit at that point. And esotericists and hermetic sort of cults that
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worship illumination and all that sort of thing. I don't know if you're, if you're calling, if you're
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saying that you control the universe and you got the tats and the symbols, I don't, you know,
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I'm not saying I would have stormed off the plane. I probably just would have said a couple of
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prayers, you know, maybe talk to the guy, figured out what he actually believes beyond all these kinds
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of slogans. But maybe if I'd had one or two too many rosés like that lady perhaps did, I might've
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Americans by Americans. Speaking of the culture, speaking of women who seem incoherent and less
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justifiably so in this case, Kamala Harris, our vice president, she has thoughts on our culture.
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Well, I think culture is, it is a reflection of our moment and our time, right? And present culture
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is the way we express how we're feeling about the moment. And we should always find times to express
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how we feel about the moment that is a reflection of joy because, you know, it comes in the morning.
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We have to find ways to also express the way we feel about the moment in terms of just having
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language and a connection to how people are experiencing life. And I think about it in that
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Culture is the norms, rituals, and behaviors of a given people. That's the answer she was looking
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for. It was, it's just, it's ninth grade English class when you haven't read the book and you,
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you are in the, you're in the honors class, but you, maybe you don't belong in the honors class and
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you haven't done the work anyway. You said, well, you know, culture, where do I begin? It's,
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you know, culture is an expression of our moment and that's, and culture is how we react to our,
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the expression of the moment and it's the moment and it's joy in the morning. And well, I think we
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pretty much, yeah, but do you have an answer to what that is? No, there's something really profound
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in Kamala's circular and meaningless description of culture here, which is that our culture presently
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is circular and meaningless. So a keen insight about culture was given to us by the sociologist
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René Girard, who, who pointed out that culture is mimetic, that we human beings develop our
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personalities, our behaviors, our language, our thoughts, our desires even by imitating what we see
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from other people. And so a culture that values honor is going to, you know, let's, let's say a
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monarchy traditionally, that's a culture that places a high value on honor. That culture is going to
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increase in honor and in the desire for honor because we're all going to be imitating each other.
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Republics traditionally are understood as cultures that value virtue. And so they're going to be,
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they're going to look different than monarchies. They're going to look different than aristocracies.
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And that's going to spread too, because we're going to imitate one another. The reason that you
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want the nice Rolex watch is not because you know anything about horology or timekeeping or Swiss
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arts and crafts. It's because people that you admire and people who you would like to be more like
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want the Rolex watch. That's, that's how, that's how we come to even desire these sorts of
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luxury goods. That's, and that would be one of the artifacts that defines a culture. And so all of
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that to say, our present culture doesn't really value much of anything at all. We don't value honor.
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We don't believe in honor anymore. We don't value virtue. We don't believe in virtue anymore.
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We don't, we do value stuff to some degree though, actually decreasingly. So if you see
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surveys about millennials and zoomers, especially, we don't really value cars anymore. We don't really
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value having a house anymore. We don't really value high fashion anymore. We don't even value
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stuff. We value nothing other than the satisfaction of our most animalistic desires. And so human
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culture starts to go away. Anything resembling high culture disappears. We don't have beautiful
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architecture. We don't have beautiful art. We don't have beautiful music. We don't have beautiful
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customs or rituals anymore. It's all just kind of base level, satisfy your sexual appetite,
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satisfy your physical appetites, not even with high cuisine, with kind of cheap nothing cuisine,
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where we're just eating slop basically from fast food places or from impossible burgers or from
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what is soil and milkshakes or whatever else you're going to have. So that's an anti-culture
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perfectly expressed by Kamala Harris in this circular rambling because we don't have any sense of what we
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value anymore because we don't have any grounding in reality anymore. And as our society moves further
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away from grounded tangible reality into the metaverse, into virtual digital social media,
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into the abstraction of the self from the body, saying that our true selves have nothing to do with
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our bodies anymore. As that happens, the culture is going to collapse even further. And it's become
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almost cliche now to observe that we today could not build medieval cathedrals. We couldn't do it.
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We don't even know how they were built. Notre Dame in Paris, the roof burns down. We don't know how
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to fix it. We've got, we're just gonna have to replace it with something uglier. We can't do it
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anymore. That culture has been lost. The apotheosis of that culture is the incoherent rambling that
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you're getting from now the vice president of the United States. Speaking of our culture and the
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fleeting aspects that could even define our anti-culture as it exists, St. Greta, Greta of
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the Blessed Selbut, Greta Thunberg was just arrested in Sweden. She was arrested for protesting fossil fuels
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or something. And they arrested her. She's 20 years old now, by the way. They keep pretending she's like
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12. But, you know, she's an adult now. And she was arrested and could be charged with a crime and
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could be sentenced to six months in prison. But she won't be. Even the media outlets who are reporting
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on this, who are liberal and very sympathetic to Greta, are saying she'll probably just get off
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with a fine. And some of her big liberal backers will pay off that fine and it won't matter at all.
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And she'll just go back to getting arrested next time. That's because this protest,
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which presents itself as being opposed to the system, opposed to the established powers,
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it is actually part of the system. Protesting is part of the liberal ruling order. That's why
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the liberal ruling class encouraged the BLM riots a few years ago. The riots were not in opposition to
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any system. They were part of the system. And protests have been part of the system for at least
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500 years. I guess about 500 years of modernity. And you see that especially kick up in something
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like the French Revolution, which puts modernity into overdrive and tears down the order. You see
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this in the Bolshevik Revolution. You see this increasingly. The protests that tear down the
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edifices of the old regime, of the old culture, of Christendom, of the West, they tear that down.
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But they tear it down not in spite of the liberal ruling class that currently runs our civilization,
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but with the encouragement of that ruling class. Because that ruling class is a liberal ruling class
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that wants to tear down all the old stuff, that wants to tear down tradition, that wants to tear
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down the church, that wants to tear down the family, that wants to tear down the high art,
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that wants to tear down all the stuff that makes us us as a society. This is also why it's mostly
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futile for conservatives to engage in the same kinds of protests and activism that the left has
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been engaging in for centuries. We occasionally try to do it. And it's usually half-hearted because
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it's just not really in the conservative sensibility to take to the streets and scream and yell in
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protest like we're great at Unberg or something like that. But also it's not going to work because
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the system will clamp down on us. The system won't clamp down on them. BLM can go burn down the country
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for eight months. The system's going to, at the most, give them a little slap on the wrist.
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St. Greta can go make a nuisance of herself everywhere. The system will not punish her ever.
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But a Midwestern granny shows up to the Capitol Rotunda and takes a selfie, you know, next to
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Nancy Pelosi's lectern or something. She's going into solitary confinement. So the system reacts
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differently because the system is built for liberal protests that furthers the goals of the regime.
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conservative protest, which is mostly incoherent. You know, the great strides that conservatives
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and proto-conservatives have ever made have not been won through activism in the streets,
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screaming and yelling like we're the weather underground or something. That doesn't,
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that's not how we roll. The greatest strides that the right, the conservatives, the people who are on
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our side of the culture have ever made are, are the martyrs dancing as the lions eat them in,
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in the early church because the blood of the martyrs was the seed of the church. That's a,
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that's a hard lesson to learn and none of us really is eager for that probably. But, but that's,
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that's more in our sensibility than, you know, going out and yelling and screaming to, to, to no good
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end because we'll, we'll just be rounded up and arrested. And meanwhile, Greta will go down and hold
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another, another, another big show. We're not going to beat the system by being part of the system.
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It's one of the big battles right now on the American right is we're recognizing that we have
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unknowingly im imbibed and accepted so many of the Libs premises. This is why conservatives,
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at least for the last 50, 60 years, have basically just been liberals driving the speed limit.
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As I think Michael Malice has popularized that phrase, other people have said it too.
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And that's true. You don't, you don't want to just be liberals driving the speed limit. You want
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to offer a choice rather than an echo. Moving on from Greta, getting into famous children,
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there's a big update on Coke gate. You know, you remember how they found a little bit of that old
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first son favorite booger sugar in the West Wing? You know what I'm talking about? You know,
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I'm, you know what I'm saying? I'm talking about that old Peruvian nose candy. You know what I'm
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talking about? I mean, that Yale college baking powder, you know, cocaine. They found some in
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the white house and the Biden administration is doing its damnedest to, to bury it under the rug,
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bury it under the carpet, bury it up in the first son's nose. But the excuses are pretty weak,
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My favorite comment yesterday is from Master Kenobi, who says, Michael, your talking points are great
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Speaking of things that are not conducive to virtue, the first son, Hunter Biden, visited the White
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Initially, we were told it was always in the White House residence. So then you think it was the
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House. So it could have been anybody. It could have been some tourist walking in, someone just getting
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a quick view of the White House. Then we were told, no, it was in a much more secure area of the White
00:23:58.840
House. You pretty much would have had to be a member of the Biden family or a cabinet secretary to get
00:24:05.640
into this part of the White House without being fully searched. So the White House deputy press
00:24:10.800
secretary, Andrew Bates, was asked about Cocaine Gate. Here's his non-answer.
00:24:17.780
One more. Former President Trump has made some pretty wild posts recently on social media. One of
00:24:24.100
them was that the cocaine found in the White House had belonged to either the president or his son.
00:24:30.100
Are you willing to say that that's not the case, that they don't belong to them?
00:24:35.000
I don't have a response to that because we have to be careful about the Hatch Act. What I will say
00:24:42.440
is that I have noticed there does seem to be some increasing frustration coming from that corner
00:24:48.920
in general. And I think it is probably rooted in the contrast between their substantive policy records.
00:24:56.700
Humana, humana, humana, humana, I can't, uh, the Hatch Act.
00:25:01.440
The Hatch Act is the weakest sauce answer you can ever give as a press secretary to a question that
00:25:08.500
you don't want to answer. The Hatch Act is totally fake. For those who don't know, the Hatch Act says
00:25:13.580
that if you are working in a government role, you can't engage in political campaign activities.
00:25:20.320
And everybody violates this thing all the time and it's pretty much never enforced.
00:25:23.940
Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, the boss here of, of this guy.
00:25:30.080
She will frequently use the Hatch Act as an excuse not to give answers to tough questions about Joe
00:25:35.460
Biden, but she was found herself to have violated the Hatch Act on at least one occasion. I suspect
00:25:41.680
she's done it on many more occasions because if you're working in politics in any role, then you're
00:25:48.020
working in politics and it's very muddy and it's a, it's a stupid answer. Even if the Hatch Act were
00:25:54.980
legit and were ever seriously enforced, how would it be a violation of the Hatch Act to comment on the
00:26:02.940
illicit drug, on the narcotic that was found in the West Wing? In what way could that possibly violate
00:26:10.240
the Hatch Act? It's just an answer they don't want to give because most people have a strong
00:26:14.780
suspicion on where it came from and they know that the Biden family will never be held to account for
00:26:23.560
anything. If you can take tens of millions of dollars in bribes from hostile foreign powers by
00:26:28.140
selling American influence and not face really any, any consequences for that, you're not going to face
00:26:35.100
consequences for a dime bag of Coke. It's just not going to happen. Okay. Speaking of things that
00:26:41.180
should be illegal and laws that should be enforced, CBS News just celebrated a moment
00:26:47.120
on social media. CBS News tweeted out, this is the moment Ben and his husband, Aaron, met their
00:26:57.680
daughter. Is that how that works? Is that how daughters are made? Charlotte for the first time.
00:27:03.420
Here's the video. What's so telling here is the guys have no idea what to do. Neither of them has
00:27:29.920
the instinct to actually take supposedly their baby into their arms. The nurse has to shove the baby
00:27:36.380
at one of them. And then finally, oh, what do I do? I pick this thing up because men and women are
00:27:40.580
different and babies need their mamas. And this is just so evil. It's just so, so evil to deprive a
00:27:46.740
child intentionally of his mother, just her mother, I guess in this case, because it's a little baby girl.
00:27:53.860
Off camera, by the way, without any of the music playing, without any of the sweet emojis, the little
00:28:00.320
tearing up happy emojis from CBS News, there's a woman who's in a bed bleeding somewhere. It was my
00:28:07.120
colleague, Merid here at the Daily Wire, pointed this out. She said, there's a woman bleeding in a bed
00:28:14.560
with nobody in her arms right now because that woman was treated as a commodity and this baby is
00:28:19.380
treated as a commodity. And now the baby will be denied a proper upbringing and her natural right
00:28:25.900
to a mother and a father joined together in holy matrimony in order to satisfy the fantasies and
00:28:33.520
very selfish desires of two men. That's awful. It's just awful. And it should obviously be not
00:28:41.400
only discouraged but illegal. And this wouldn't have even been thinkable just a few years ago. Now it's
00:28:47.560
becoming increasingly common. And having said all that, it's also important, I think, to point out
00:28:56.240
these guys might not have known. These guys might not know how evil it is what they're doing. I think
00:29:04.280
there are a lot of people, definitely homosexual couples, but even straight couples or single people
00:29:10.900
or whatever, who engage in surrogacy, who don't realize that it is evil or why it is evil. And so
00:29:18.660
I'm really sympathetic to them because the baby is a good thing. The baby is good. It's a good end.
00:29:27.100
The means by which the baby was conceived and the way in which the baby is being brought up is evil.
00:29:33.200
And good ends do not justify evil means. But in our culture that has completely destroyed its
00:29:41.580
capacity for moral discourse, in our culture which says if it feels good, do it, is the only moral
00:29:47.540
maxim, I have a great deal of sympathy for guys who just didn't know. And now they're in this
00:29:52.540
position where they say, shoot, what do I do? What do I do? There are a lot of people who have not
00:29:58.740
engaged in surrogacy who used to approve of surrogacy from afar. They don't see the reality
00:30:03.420
of it. Then we see the reality of it. And we recognize there's a woman bleeding off camera who's
00:30:08.060
being used as a vessel for rich gay men. And we realize, oh, that's wrong. And then people start to
00:30:15.880
think about it for a second. They say, okay, why is surrogacy wrong? I have a sense that it's wrong,
00:30:19.380
but why is it wrong? Oh, it's wrong because it's wrong to treat people as commodities. It's wrong to
00:30:25.100
treat people as things. And surrogacy treats a person as a thing. There's a great priest on
00:30:34.560
Twitter who made this very simple logical point yesterday. Father, I think it's Matthew Schneider
00:30:40.820
is his name. I could be getting that wrong. It's wrong to treat people as things. Surrogacy treats
00:30:45.380
people as things. Therefore, surrogacy is wrong. And that's it. And while the conservatives were getting
00:30:51.760
on our high horse here, and even many people who hadn't considered surrogacy very much are now
00:30:56.840
beginning to realize, oh, this is evil. This should obviously be banned. But we can't just point the
00:31:01.720
finger at the libs here and their sexual revolution, which has driven a lot of this evil. We also need
00:31:07.460
to point out that this surrogacy thing is also a logical consequence of making an idol out of
00:31:15.080
capitalism. What you're looking at there is not communism. What you're looking at there is not
00:31:20.560
merely the logical end of the sexual revolution. What you're looking at there is capitalism.
00:31:26.700
Buying and selling wombs and time, gestation, and bodily resources, and ultimately buying and selling
00:31:36.700
people. And that is evil. It's the same type of thing as human trafficking and slavery.
00:31:44.000
And it's particularly insidious and evil because you're intentionally depriving a child of his or
00:31:51.320
her parents. And in this case, of a mother, which a relationship between a baby and a mother is so,
00:31:56.820
so important. Deeply, deeply evil, but it's a systemic problem. It's not just the libs. It's not
00:32:01.720
just the homosexuals. It's not just the sexual revolutionaries. It's the whole liberal system
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Hey, Michael, you talk a lot about how the DeSantis versus Trump race is about the original
00:33:38.320
versus the derivative. And I agree that if Ron DeSantis is going to have a clear path to victory,
00:33:43.780
he needs to reframe that contest entirely. And the way that he has to do it is to convince
00:33:49.980
Americans that this is not between the original and the derivative, but between the ultimate and
00:33:54.760
the derivative. In which case, Ron DeSantis would be the ultimate conservative president
00:34:00.000
and Donald Trump would be a mere stepping stone towards achieving that ultimate conservatism.
00:34:06.600
The way he needs to do this is by being an explicitly Christian candidate, by saying that
00:34:12.860
all of his policies are going to be viewed through a Christian lens and his driving governmental
00:34:20.160
philosophy is going to be that of Christianity. Conservatism at its heart is Christian. So if
00:34:26.620
he would do this, I think that he would make a big leap forward. And I would like to hear your
00:34:33.400
I basically agree with that. And that question may have come in before I made a very similar
00:34:37.480
point yesterday on the show. That's true. I think probably the consultants around DeSantis might fear
00:34:45.200
that a deus volt, explicitly Christian campaign might hurt him with the supposed suburban moms or,
00:34:56.020
you know, the suburban women and the moderate voters and all these kinds of people. But I agree
00:35:01.820
with you. It's really his only shot. Probably DeSantis' only shot right now in this race is to run as
00:35:08.760
Ted Cruz, which wouldn't work had Ted Cruz decided to run in 2024. But because Senator Cruz has not run
00:35:15.140
in 2024, Cruz ran as the Christian conservative candidate. Now, Senator Cruz is more libertarian
00:35:22.320
probably than Governor DeSantis, which right now that distinction would benefit DeSantis given where
00:35:29.340
the conservative movement is at the moment. So he could try to run as the more traditionalist type
00:35:37.300
of Ted Cruz. But people will poo-poo that strategy because they'll say, well, Cruz lost to Trump.
00:35:43.100
Yeah, he did. But we blur over a lot of the details in hindsight. Had Marco Rubio dropped out
00:35:51.780
before Florida, Ted Cruz probably would have been the Republican nominee. Ted Cruz was very,
00:35:55.720
very close to beating Donald Trump in the 2016 primary. And he ran as a distinct figure. Trump ran
00:36:01.060
as this wild populist who totally bucks the system, who is not from the elite, who kind of attended one of
00:36:08.880
the fancy schools, though he was a transfer student and he was never really accepted by them.
00:36:14.480
He doesn't come from old money. He doesn't hop around to all the classic institutions
00:36:19.260
of the political establishment. He is not invited to nice cocktail parties. And Ron DeSantis did go to
00:36:28.860
the fancy schools. He went to Yale and Harvard. And Ron DeSantis did serve in Congress for a while.
00:36:34.300
And Ron DeSantis has been a governor of a state. And so it's not a knock on him. I think he's a
00:36:38.240
very effective politician. But he can't run as that total outsider. Ron DeSantis has support from
00:36:43.180
a lot of the GOP establishment. Again, I still don't think that's a knock on DeSantis. I think
00:36:49.100
they're just supporting him because he's not Donald Trump and he's the only guy who could take Trump
00:36:52.460
out. But that's something that DeSantis has to deal with. And I think maybe the way to deal with that
00:36:57.300
is to just lean in and say, look, I am going to be the candidate to the right of Donald Trump. And he's
00:37:02.240
starting to do that, by the way. You're seeing this with a great ad from Casey DeSantis going after
00:37:05.960
some of the eccentricities of the left, hitting the left for going after conservatives' kids.
00:37:13.720
You're seeing this in the anti-Pride Month ad that DeSantis put out. And so he's starting to do that.
00:37:18.060
But yeah, he's got to distinguish himself. Because if it's a battle between Coke and New Coke,
00:37:22.460
New Coke might perform better in the taste tests that are blind. But when you take the blindfold off,
00:37:26.540
people are always going to go for the OG. Next one.
00:37:28.840
Hey, Michael. I'm in a little bit of a pickle here, and I'm hoping you can unpickle me with
00:37:34.000
some words of wisdom. Throughout the month of June, I posted a lot of anti-Pride things. Very
00:37:38.240
simple things like men cannot be women, we shouldn't affirm transgender's mental delusions,
00:37:42.600
and that the Rainbow Coalition will be the downfall of America. My husband has two siblings who are a
00:37:47.100
part of the Rainbow Coalition, and they, of course, became incredibly upset about this and were
00:37:52.280
screaming at me that I was being hateful and all sorts of other things. It got so bad that they
00:37:57.640
called their parents crying, and so now my husband's parents are upset with me for creating
00:38:02.900
this contention in their household. And even though they agree with me 100% and have no issue
00:38:07.640
with what I said, they don't want me to talk about or post these things for the sake of not upsetting
00:38:12.940
their two children. In the Bible, you know, Christ encourages us to be peacemakers as He is,
00:38:17.760
and that contention is of the devil. My question is, where is the line between stating what is true
00:38:24.020
and what we believe in and standing firm in the faith and not creating contention because we know
00:38:29.600
that those subjects will upset certain people in our lives? Am I responsible for the contention or is
00:38:35.140
it up to the two children to control their emotions and be tolerant of opposing ideas? Thanks so much,
00:38:42.460
Michael. It's even further. It's important for the children to be raised in accordance with the
00:38:49.120
truth. Not just to be tolerant, but to be raised in a way that is correct, to be shaped properly and
00:38:56.680
oriented toward the truth rather than toward falsehood. So it's even further than that. And
00:39:00.620
you ought to state your views in the proper media and the proper platforms. I don't think you need to
00:39:08.580
show up to Thanksgiving dinner wearing a MAGA hat, you know, dancing around, setting off fireworks
00:39:13.540
for the conservative revolution or anything like that. But if it's on your own social media page,
00:39:19.100
if it's in your own book club, I don't know, if it's a dinner with like-minded people, then of
00:39:26.440
course you bring that up. And then when you go to the family function, then maybe you're a little
00:39:30.340
bit more diplomatic. There's nothing wrong with being diplomatic. You don't want to be a flatterer.
00:39:34.500
You don't want to be a liar. You don't want to say things that aren't true. But you don't need to
00:39:38.380
be flamboyant all the time with your views. Kind of funny to use the word flamboyant when we're
00:39:42.360
talking about your opposition to the pride movement. So I would speak the truth at all
00:39:49.620
times. But you can be a little more bold and a little more subdued depending on the circumstances.
00:39:58.080
But I would never try to find a conciliatory middle ground between truth and falsehood.
00:40:03.200
That's where you're going to get into trouble. Because if you try to back away from your views,
00:40:08.200
say, well, no, I don't really mean that. No, I actually, I kind of look, I sort of see, but maybe
00:40:13.400
in the, then you're going to look guilty. Then you're going to look like your views are wrong,
00:40:18.460
which they're not. If you're asked by your relative, you say, do you really believe that
00:40:22.960
you don't believe in gay marriage? You say, no, I don't. I just don't think that's what marriage is.
00:40:27.740
I think that marriage essentially has to do with sexual difference. And so no,
00:40:30.980
don't mean any ill will toward anybody, but it's just, that's just what it is. I can't, I can't lie.
00:40:37.500
Then you're in a much safer position because you can't, they're not going to be able to argue with
00:40:42.640
you and you're not going to seem nervous. You're not going to seem like, like what you're doing
00:40:46.760
is something shameful. You're stating your views clearly might even be persuasive. Next question.
00:40:51.860
Hi, Michael. This is the Shuckmeister. I have probably the most important question to ask
00:40:56.700
regarding the lore of the Michael Knowles show. There seems to be a reoccurring antagonist. And I
00:41:01.580
was once again reminded of him during your interview with S.D. Williams. Who is Mr. McGillicuddy
00:41:07.080
and why does he want to steal my future trad wife away from me? Thanks. Love the show.
00:41:12.340
Well, Mr. McGillicuddy, you know, he owns the widget factory at which your wife works so that you
00:41:19.100
can get money so that you can pay another woman to raise your children. That Mr. McGillicuddy is
00:41:25.260
perhaps the defining man in our modern life predicted by James Burnham with the rise of the
00:41:34.440
managerial elite in the earlier parts of the 20th century and now really has flourished where we live
00:41:44.180
in a society that is undifferentiated by almost anything and especially sex. Everybody's got to go
00:41:50.060
work and just produce widgets to tick up GDP and then consume products rather than focus on things
00:41:56.400
that don't have a price tag like family. Mr. McGillicuddy is not a communist. A lot of
00:42:02.480
conservatives want to blame all the problems on communists and I blamed Marx and Marx's acolytes
00:42:08.040
for all sorts of issues. I wrote a whole book about it called Speechless, Controlling Words,
00:42:11.240
Controlling Minds. But there are, hello, thank you. But there are other evils in the world besides
00:42:18.300
Marxism. There are other antagonists and Mr. McGillicuddy is a real insidious antagonist.
00:42:24.760
Because Mr. McGillicuddy, though he is liberal, is a capitalist. Capitalism is a word that was
00:42:31.520
popularized by Karl Marx and capitalism is not great. Markets are good. A flourishing economy is good.
00:42:42.400
Material prosperity can be a wonderful thing in its proper place. But capitalism,
00:42:48.860
as the greatest, highest point of politics, makes conservatives no different than the mammon
00:42:56.300
worshippers on the left that we deride and that we distinguish ourselves from. That's who he is.
00:43:04.380
Hey there, Big Mike, Smokey Mike, Sexy Mike, Dirty Mike. Media Matters for America's
00:43:10.820
favorite quote-unquote failed actor. I wanted to inquire a question for your answering pleasure.
00:43:17.180
I wanted to get some information on a topic you are well-versed in. Cigars. Not marijuana, no.
00:43:22.920
If I wanted information on the Red Pitchfork Man's favorite crop, I would have just asked a goofy
00:43:27.060
little leftist, but I digress, I digress. I was hoping you could give me a general explanation about
00:43:32.220
cigars, like what they're made of, what makes two cigars different, general information that's
00:43:37.220
important to know for somebody trying to get into this. And also, as someone who has dealt with
00:43:41.560
asthma in the past, but doesn't really affect me now, would it still be possible for me to get
00:43:45.780
into this activity? Really appreciate the response. Keep up the good work and God bless. Oh, make sure
00:43:52.720
to tell your folks I says, hey. All right. Good deal. Bye now. What a question. What an amazing
00:43:58.460
question. I don't really know anything about asthma, so talk to your doctor, I guess.
00:44:02.220
If you're not asthmatic now, I don't see what the problem would be. I don't really know the relation
00:44:06.180
between tobacco and asthma anyway. In terms of cigars, what are they made of? They're made of
00:44:10.520
tobacco. They're made of tobacco leaves. Unlike a cigarette, which is made of chopped up cheap
00:44:15.240
tobacco and chemicals and paper, a cigar is all tobacco. It's long filler tobacco. It comes from
00:44:20.300
different countries. Cuba, most famously, but then because of the Cuban embargo and because the
00:44:25.040
communists stole the crops and the plantations from the cigar makers, a lot of the great cigar makers
00:44:30.340
left. They went to places like the Dominican Republic, Nicaragua, Honduras, increasingly
00:44:33.980
Ecuador. Some tobacco is grown in Mexico. Some of the best tobacco is grown in Connecticut.
00:44:40.680
Shade tobacco and darker broadleaf tobacco, which is very toothy, kind of nice, oily, juicy
00:44:46.280
tobacco. Though a lot of that tobacco, now there's a shortage of it because the Connecticut farms have
00:44:51.460
sold to other places. So a lot of that is actually grown in Ecuador now. The cigars taste different
00:44:58.620
because you blend different kinds of tobacco together. I've considered making cigars a bigger
00:45:04.740
part of this show because it's such a great pleasure. It's given me such great pleasure over
00:45:09.180
the course of my life. I've smoked cigars for the majority of my life at this point. I try to in
00:45:13.560
moderation, understanding the risks, trying to minimize them. And I think it really has helped me.
00:45:19.300
It helps me to relax, helps me to think about things, wonderful conversations. So we'll try to do a
00:45:24.240
little bit more with cigars moving, moving forward. But today's Fake Headline Friday. I want to get to
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