The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1292 - Ron DeSantis Braces For The Ramaswamy Tsunami

00:00:00.000 There's a lot of news to get to. Major movement in the 2024 presidential race,

00:00:04.820 a Democrat power grab to destroy the Supreme Court, Mitt Romney's views on hot dogs. We will

00:00:10.520 get to all of it. But first, a major announcement. I teased this yesterday. Today I'm prepared to

00:00:19.060 give you the full story. If you're driving, I suggest you pull over. If you are standing up,

00:00:24.020 you might want to sit down. Six years after its initial publication, my best-selling blank book,

00:00:32.840 Reasons to Vote for Democrats, a comprehensive guide, has been translated into Hungarian.

00:00:38.540 The Hungarian edition is titled,

00:00:41.920 The book will be available in bookstores throughout Hungary as early as next Tuesday. It is available

00:01:02.240 right now for pre-order at Libri.hu. It is sadly not available on Amazon because Amazon does not

00:01:11.560 operate in the nation of Hungary. Very excited for this launch. By the way, this is not, if you're

00:01:16.960 watching right now instead of listening, this is not the real book. The book hasn't hit bookstores yet,

00:01:21.880 so I had my producers tape the cover around another book, and they did an absolutely terrible job.

00:01:28.940 So the real book will look much better than this. I'm very excited about this launch, though. I'm so

00:01:33.720 excited that I'm going to go to Hungary. I'm going to go to Hungary for a full-on book tour next week

00:01:40.020 to promote my blank book in its Hungarian translation. And then at the end of the week,

00:01:46.820 I'm going to give a speech at the Matthias Korvinus Collegium Fest. That'll be next Friday. If you're in

00:01:52.880 or around Budapest, I hope to see you there. In the three days between the publication of

00:01:58.320 Miart i Svátsatunk a Liber Nyakokra and my speech, I hope that my national bestseller becomes an

00:02:06.220 international bestseller. I'm relying on you to make that happen. Because six years on,

00:02:11.400 I am confident that this book's message resonates now more than ever, not just in our own country,

00:02:18.380 but throughout the entire world. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:22.020 Welcome back to the show. This episode is brought to you by Good Ranchers. Get a great meat at a

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00:02:39.500 to GoodRanchers.com. Use code Knowles today. Mitt Romney has eaten a hot dog almost as breaking news as

00:02:47.180 the Hungarian translation of my blank book. We will get to the meaning behind Mitt Romney's viral

00:02:52.180 hot dog video. Really important stuff this Friday. You don't want to miss this kind of news.

00:02:57.300 First, though, I guess we've got to slog through some minor details about the 2024 presidential race.

00:03:03.340 Namely, there is a new number two candidate. Now, this doesn't mean that DeSantis is no longer number

00:03:10.140 two. It means that he's now sharing the number two spot with another candidate. This,

00:03:13.740 according to Kaplan poll, the Vake Ramaswamy, the Ramaswamy mommies just pushing their candidate

00:03:21.120 up from, where did he start? Fifth or sixth place or something? He was down at almost 0%. Now,

00:03:27.900 according to this Kaplan survey, he is tied with Ron DeSantis for second place. According to this

00:03:33.400 survey, they're both tied at 12 points and they're well behind President Trump, who is at 48%.

00:03:40.420 What does this mean? It's still silly season. It's a national poll. It doesn't mean a whole lot in

00:03:48.620 terms of what's going to happen in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida. It does mean,

00:03:53.000 though, that if you want to move in this race, you got to stop playing it safe. The Vake is the only

00:04:00.120 candidate in the whole race from Trump to DeSantis to Pence to Chris Christie to Asa Hutchinson. The Vake

00:04:06.660 is the only one, to Nikki Haley, to Tim Scott, there are other people in the race too. The Vake is the

00:04:11.340 only one who is mixing it up and not playing it safe and putting himself in risk on the campaign

00:04:16.920 trail in positions that he's taking, in campaign stunts that he's pulling, and it's paying off.

00:04:22.000 He's the only candidate who's moving. And even if it's just one poll, even if it just kind of looks

00:04:28.340 like he's tied nationally with DeSantis, that kind of momentum, that kind of movement is a really big

00:04:34.320 deal. So yes, it's early on, but if he's getting this kind of positive movement early on, where is

00:04:38.140 he going to be in two months, three months, four months? This should be a warning sign to one

00:04:43.660 candidate in particular, Ron DeSantis. If you want to have a shot at the big job, you've got to stop

00:04:51.320 playing it safe. This is not a message to Trump. Trump doesn't need to stop playing it safe because

00:04:55.940 he's so far ahead of all the other candidates. So for Trump, it makes sense to just not show up to

00:05:01.220 the Iowa town halls, not show up too much on the campaign trail, not commit to doing the Republican

00:05:07.200 debates. Makes total sense for him. If DeSantis keeps playing it really safe and smart and cautious,

00:05:14.640 and he's got all the best consultants, and he's got, he's hearing all the best strategy advice on

00:05:18.840 here's, you got to bide your time. He's going to wind up like Ted Cruz. He's going to be a really good

00:05:22.960 candidate who says many of the right things, who's scientifically precise about his campaign

00:05:28.880 down to the minutest detail, and he's going to come in number two. Maybe, maybe not even number

00:05:33.920 two. A major, it's like I've been trying to shake the DeSantis campaign by the shoulders here.

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00:07:01.340 candidate waiting in the wings. Not even declared yet, that candidate would be Glenn Youngkin. Remember

00:07:07.640 Glenn Youngkin? There have been two very, very impressive governors in the last couple of

00:07:13.600 years. Ron DeSantis, of course, in Florida. Glenn Youngkin in Virginia. Glenn Youngkin wins his race

00:07:20.320 in Virginia, which is a blue commonwealth, by running, well, initially he tries to run on just

00:07:26.260 cutting taxes and all that business, country club kind of Republican stuff, and he was going nowhere.

00:07:31.280 And then Glenn Youngkin leaned into more of the cultural issues, critical race theory in schools,

00:07:37.060 transgender bathrooms in schools. Daily Wire broke a story on that latter issue, and that story and that

00:07:46.340 issue may have thrown the race to Glenn Youngkin. So Youngkin's there, and inside every governor is a

00:07:53.520 president just waiting to come out. So Youngkin's looking at it. He's reportedly meeting with some

00:07:58.500 donors. In fact, he's meeting with Trump's former Commerce Secretary, Wilbur Ross, hosting a meet and

00:08:03.840 greet for Glenn Youngkin. Glenn Youngkin has no shortage of wealthy friends. He was the co-CEO of

00:08:08.720 the Carlisle Group. I think it's the largest private equity fund in the world. They had this meet and

00:08:14.280 greet at Wilbur Ross's Southampton, or they're having the meet and greet at Wilbur Ross's Southampton

00:08:19.780 home. And what is Youngkin doing here? Is he declaring? No. Is he starting a super PAC? No. But

00:08:25.900 he reportedly sent word to Trump that he's only making these moves so that he can be in the

00:08:34.580 discussion and in contention for VP. Now, again, this is all just according to reports from the New

00:08:39.920 York Post and some other places now. But assuming those reports are right, this is a smart move for

00:08:46.020 Youngkin. Because if you're Glenn Youngkin, you're thinking, okay, in many ways I'm comparable to Ron

00:08:50.640 DeSantis. Ron DeSantis is more conservative than I am. Ron DeSantis is more effective than I am.

00:08:55.000 But Florida is also more conservative than Virginia is. So given our relative states, okay, I'm doing

00:09:00.440 okay. But DeSantis is being just ground up in the Donald Trump meat grinder, as would any candidate.

00:09:07.920 And so I want to put myself in a position where I could be the president, especially as Donald Trump's

00:09:13.300 facing three indictments. He's probably going to face 30 more by the time the election comes around.

00:09:16.480 So I want to put myself in that position. But if I want to put myself in that position without

00:09:20.280 also getting ground up by the Trump campaign machine, then I need to directly coordinate

00:09:25.260 with Trump and say, hey, bro, I'm not threatening you. I'm not going to run if you're running

00:09:31.340 as much out of self-interest as out of any kind of loyalty. Don't worry, I'm on your side. In fact,

00:09:37.000 I want to help you. In fact, I want to be your vice president. That's a smart way to play this.

00:09:42.620 And it's something that the other candidates, I think, did not sufficiently take into account in

00:09:51.080 this primary race. You can see Vivek is playing pretty nicely with Trump. He's reserving more of

00:09:56.240 his criticism for the number two candidate, Ron DeSantis, and it seems to have benefited him in the polls.

00:10:00.480 The Trump campaign is brutal. It is brutal. It will, especially if their candidate's way,

00:10:10.740 way up right now and the candidate is running effectively as an incumbent, they're going to

00:10:15.320 chew people up. So Glenn Youngkin, very smart, says he only wants to be VP. Of course, he has no

00:10:19.780 designs on being president this cycle, but it's a long ways to the election. And there are a lot of

00:10:25.400 indictments coming down the pike. We could end up in a situation, very plausibly end up in a situation

00:10:30.440 in 2024 where the two candidates for the major parties are neither Biden nor Trump. So what is

00:10:37.720 Youngkin doing to help himself in Virginia? Well, he just had his education department finalize a new

00:10:42.940 rule requiring all public schools to get parental permission before cooperating with students who want

00:10:50.440 to identify as a gender other than their biological sex. And I guess this is a win. Previously, schools 1.00

00:11:00.020 and these pervert teachers and administrators were secretly transing the kids behind their parents' 0.59

00:11:04.560 backs and wouldn't even tell the parents that they were calling little boys she and her and

00:11:08.980 counseling them to identify as the opposite sex and sometimes even giving them medical advice on how to

00:11:14.460 begin the transition process. So Virginia says, no, you can't do that. But what does the rule

00:11:18.700 ultimately come down to? It says, hey, if an eight-year-old wants to trans himself,

00:11:25.740 if the teachers want to trans an eight-year-old, they got to talk to the parents first.

00:11:31.740 That's it. That's the best we can do. Glenn Youngkin says, all children in Virginia deserve

00:11:36.420 to have a parent engaged in their life and to be treated with dignity and respect. The VDOE,

00:11:41.400 Virginia Department of Education, updated model policies, reaffirm my administration's

00:11:45.420 continued commitment to ensure that every parent is involved in conversations regarding their child's

00:11:49.700 education, upbringing, and care. Okay. My goal is not for every parent to be involved in the

00:11:57.540 conversations regarding their children's healthcare and decisions and care. My goal is to stop people

00:12:03.620 from castrating little kids. The problem is not the procedure of the way in which little kids are

00:12:11.580 getting transed and sterilized and mutilated. The problem is that they are getting transed and 1.00

00:12:18.160 sterilized and mutilated. So the real answer here is not, we need to just have broader,

00:12:23.340 more respectful conversations about how best to trans the children. The answer here is, no, 1.00

00:12:28.220 this is completely illegal and anyone who does it goes to prison at least. That's the answer.

00:12:33.840 Now, easy for me to say. I'm sitting here in the state of Tennessee behind a microphone. I'm not a

00:12:38.480 governor. I'm not a senator. I get that Glenn Youngkin is in a tough spot because Virginia is

00:12:43.800 a blue commonwealth. And so he's trying to have a more conciliatory sort of policy while still scoring

00:12:49.960 some wins. This doesn't even bring us back to 2017 levels of insanity. Could you imagine,

00:12:56.640 could you imagine this would be the debate? We went from not even having a public conception of

00:13:03.520 transgenderism six, seven years ago to, well, are we going to trans the seven-year-olds or the eight-year-olds?

00:13:10.840 That was about a year ago to now. Well, how should we trans the kids? Should the parents be involved

00:13:16.820 at all or should it just be the teachers? We're just going to, by the end, we're going to be transing

00:13:23.000 the newborns in 18 months if we keep this up. This was the point of my CPAC speech.

00:13:27.880 You can't keep trying to negotiate on the terms of the field that's already been lost.

00:13:36.740 I'm mixing some metaphors here. But you've already been pushed so far back on the field. And then

00:13:40.960 you've been pushed back, I don't know, 20 yards and you're trying to regain six inches. You got to

00:13:45.780 cut that out. The only kind of policy that will matter at all is if you come out and say, hey,

00:13:52.660 we're going to eradicate transgenderism from public life entirely. That's the only way to do it. 1.00

00:13:56.460 That's what the left does. We would be doing it on the side of justice and morality and sanity.

00:14:01.800 The left does it on the side of insanity and immorality and injustice.

00:14:06.320 You think the left cares about, well, a conciliatory meeting in the middle? No.

00:14:09.380 Even as they've lost elections, even as they've lost Virginia on the transgender issue, they say,

00:14:13.900 okay, yeah, whatever. We kind of lost one election. We're just going to keep pushing.

00:14:17.060 Yeah, we want the teachers to be able in their sole discretion to trans seven-year-olds.

00:14:21.500 What are you going to do about it? They don't care about moderation. They don't care about

00:14:25.520 seeming reasonable and conciliatory. They just care about winning. So we've got to do that too.

00:14:31.340 Maybe it's the best he can do in Virginia. But what about those governors in the red states?

00:14:38.260 Got to push a lot further. We got to go a lot. We got to say, no, actually, forget about the

00:14:42.860 six-year-olds getting trans. 26-year-olds can't get trans. 36-year-olds can't get trans. Doctors

00:14:47.420 who engage in these surgeries go to prison. Doctors who engage in these kinds of mutilations

00:14:51.560 at the very least lose their licenses and they should flee the state. They should be afraid to

00:14:55.820 show their faces in public for fear of ostracism, okay? Now, DeSantis in Florida, he's going further

00:15:03.080 than Glenn Youngkin. And the political circumstances in Florida allow him to do that. So again, I am

00:15:08.160 grading a little bit on a curve here. But DeSantis is playing great with what he's got available to

00:15:12.940 him. DeSantis just ordered his state board of administration to investigate the assets of

00:15:18.020 Transheiser Bush that Florida has invested in. So they say, this is DeSantis, as sales of AB InBev

00:15:28.000 products, and for those of you who are unaware, AB InBev is the official corporate name of the

00:15:33.540 company, much better known as Transheiser Bush. As sales of AB InBev products within the U.S.

00:15:38.320 continue to precipitously decline, reports are now emerging that large American mainstays like Costco

00:15:42.260 will be pulling Bud Light from the shelves. Clearly, the board's mismanagement, as well as its failure

00:15:46.800 to remediate the problem and repair its relationship with millions of disaffected American

00:15:50.400 customers, has led to this impasse and will continue to financially harm the SBA and other

00:15:56.500 shareholders. So he's really smart about what he's saying here. He's not just saying, we need to punish

00:16:01.320 Transheiser Bush because Bud Light went woke. He's saying, well, aw shucks, aw shucks.

00:16:10.280 Transheiser Bush went woke, and now the stock price is collapsing and the profits are collapsing.

00:16:14.520 And so it's my responsibility as someone with the fiduciary interest of Floridians, you know,

00:16:22.660 on my shoulders. We've got to pull out. We've got to stop supporting, just to protect ourselves.

00:16:31.360 Now, the effect of this, of course, is going to be the same, and it's going to be the same knock

00:16:34.360 that the libs and the squishes make, especially the squishes make on Ron DeSantis, which is,

00:16:38.480 he's wielding the government to punish the people who he thinks are doing bad things. 1.00

00:16:46.540 But he's not, he's such a hypocrite. He's not wielding the government to punish the people 0.99

00:16:52.060 who are doing good things. That's true. That's right. It's called politics. It's called statecraft.

00:17:00.060 It's called conserving anything at all. Right. You should not treat good and bad as the same.

00:17:09.240 You should not treat true and false as the same. You should not treat beautiful and ugly as the same.

00:17:14.700 They're different. And we need to use our judgment and our prudence and our wisdom in statecraft

00:17:19.520 to discern between the two. Because if you treat them the same, you're going to get a decaying,

00:17:25.100 degrading country. And ultimately, you're going to get a very bad country that thrives or decays

00:17:30.780 on falsehood and that lives amid ugliness. Really good stuff from DeSantis. It's bold. It's in the

00:17:37.280 right direction. Strongly, strongly encourage other Republicans to follow suit. Speaking of power

00:17:43.020 plays, Maisie Hirono, one of the more frequently mocked members of the United States Senate.

00:17:50.140 Maisie is a Democrat senator. She is insisting that if the Supreme Court does not adopt the code

00:17:58.360 of ethics that she wants it to adopt, then she and her fellow senators are going to force one on the 1.00

00:18:05.020 Supreme Court. First of all, let's understand that the United States Supreme Court does not

00:18:09.900 have a code of ethics, the kind of code of ethics that applies to all other federal judges.

00:18:15.340 So the highest court in the land should set a standard, should set the highest standard. They

00:18:20.140 do not. And so this is a bill that would do that. But what will it do? It will establish a procedure for

00:18:26.300 investigating ethical violations. It will make much clearer recusal requirements. And the third is to

00:18:34.220 give the court time to adopt the code of ethics. And if they do not, then one will be provided to them.

00:18:41.900 How exactly? Senator, how exactly do you plan to then enforce those guidelines?

00:18:52.460 Some of the guidelines will be done through the commission that is established by the judicial

00:18:57.820 conference. And so there are judicial conference procedures for investigating these kinds of things.

00:19:05.020 Good on the CNN guy. Good on the CNN guy for asking the obvious question here.

00:19:11.820 What Maisie Hirono is suggesting sounds kind of nice if you don't know anything about politics and

00:19:16.700 haven't thought about this issue for more than two seconds. She goes, it's crazy that the Supreme Court

00:19:22.700 doesn't have a code of ethics. Now, first of all, the Supreme Court obviously has quite a code of ethics.

00:19:28.900 It's not written down on a sheet of paper necessarily, but the Supreme Court has all sorts of traditions and

00:19:34.580 ethical standards that it abides by, and they're very, very high. But it doesn't have a written down

00:19:40.180 formal code of ethics. That's true. Why might that be? Because it's the highest court in the land.

00:19:48.200 And the CNN guy raises this question. He says, well, who's going to hold them accountable to the code of

00:19:54.540 ethics? And Maisie Hirono's answer is very dangerous here. And this whole movement by the

00:19:59.960 Senate Democrats to hold the Supreme Court to a code of ethics, that is just jargony, euphemistic

00:20:05.180 gobbledygook to allow for a Senate takeover of the Supreme Court, to allow for the takeover of one

00:20:12.900 branch of government by another branch of government. Because her answer is, well, who's going to hold

00:20:17.740 them to it? We will. We are going to decide what cases the judges are allowed to participate in.

00:20:27.360 And when we say that, what do we mean? We mean we're going to make Clarence Thomas recuse himself.

00:20:31.680 We're going to make Amy Barrett recuse herself. We're going to make the conservatives recuse

00:20:35.580 themselves. And we're going to hold them accountable. That's not how the Constitution works.

00:20:39.640 That's not how the branches of government work. This is something that the Senate has no right to do. 0.92

00:20:44.740 And if the Senate were able to steal this kind of a power, it would be, I say without exaggeration,

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00:22:20.700 My favorite comment yesterday is from Michael Biesenthal, 4259, who says,

00:22:26.460 Marjorie Taylor Greene must have been spending too much time with Michael's producers to have found 0.91

00:22:29.780 such obscene material. It's so true. This crew, these producers, we're going to call them the

00:22:35.080 weird sex stuff team over here. I would say that's a full third of my show many days. Not today,

00:22:40.420 actually, because today we're talking about important things like the Hungarian translation

00:22:45.440 of my blank book and the 2024 presidential race and Mitt Romney eating a hot dog. I guess that's the

00:22:49.580 most scintillating thing of the day, which we will get to. But I don't want to move on too quickly

00:22:54.240 from the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court has to be able to rule itself. The Supreme Court has to have

00:23:05.700 a lot of authority. Just as the Supreme Court doesn't go in and totally dominate the U.S. Senate,

00:23:11.640 so too the Senate can't go in and totally dominate the Supreme Court. We have a system of checks and 0.96

00:23:19.480 balances and a separation of powers for a reason. The reason that we have that is to try to stop

00:23:25.560 the natural decay of the cycle of regimes. And this is a problem that has been recognized since

00:23:32.040 the old ancient Greeks, people like Polybius, the Greek historian of the Romans, who observed

00:23:39.780 that regimes naturally decay. So if you have a monarchy, it's naturally going to decay into something

00:23:47.300 else. If you have an oligarchy, it's natural. An aristocracy is naturally going to decay into 0.90

00:23:50.460 something else. If you have a democracy, it's naturally going to decay into something else.

00:23:54.040 And you're going to be stuck in this cycle forever and ever and ever. And so the classical

00:23:57.160 conception of a mixed regime endeavors to stop or at the very least slow down that decay and cycle 0.99

00:24:06.260 of regimes. And the American founding fathers tried to do a similar thing. When they established the

00:24:10.260 government with an executive and a legislature and a judiciary that were separated and had checks

00:24:18.160 and balances on one another, the point of that was to give us a more stable regime. And what they

00:24:23.200 were trying to do, you see in the writings of St. Thomas Aquinas, you see in the writings of a lot

00:24:28.180 of great statesmen and a lot of great thinkers throughout history. They're saying, okay, if we have

00:24:32.900 not just a monarchy or an aristocracy or a democracy, but if we have elements of all of those things,

00:24:38.320 in the United States, the executive is kind of like a monarchy. It's got elements and aspects

00:24:45.280 of a monarchy. The Senate, as well as other elements of our constitution, are kind of like

00:24:50.820 an aristocracy. And obviously the representation of the people is significantly like a democracy.

00:24:57.640 Well, if you have them all at once, maybe you can slow down that decay. And we have been just trying,

00:25:04.800 we've been dead set ever since on destroying that system. The election of senators would be

00:25:12.480 one of the things that upends the regime. The Senate trying to dominate the Supreme Court,

00:25:18.580 same thing. They want to do it though because they have, the libs have no particular care for 1.00

00:25:24.740 the stability of our regime. In fact, they don't really like the way our regime was set up to begin

00:25:29.140 with. And they want to make it much more conducive to their exercise of power, even if it destabilizes

00:25:36.020 the whole country. Now we got to get to Mitt Romney eating a hot dog. Really important stuff.

00:25:41.740 Speaking of the Senate, Mitt Romney posted this video a few days ago. It has gone viral.

00:25:47.460 Well, as you all know, today is National Hot Dog Day. And perhaps you also know that hot dog is my

00:25:53.940 favorite meat. I love hot dogs. I love them in buns. I love them outside of buns. I love them

00:26:00.620 with baked beans. I just like hot dogs. It's the best meat there is without question. So to all of

00:26:06.740 you who like me are celebrating National Hot Dog Day, congratulations to you. And may there be many,

00:26:13.300 many more hot dogs served in our wonderful land. Did you catch it? If you were listening,

00:26:19.500 you didn't catch it. I know he sounds a little stilted. It has a little bit the aspect of how do you

00:26:23.920 do fellow humans. He's wearing a hat that's got a hot dog on it. He's walking around with the hot

00:26:28.780 dog. It's a little awkward, but kind of charming and endearing, actually, by the standard of Mitt

00:26:33.640 Romney. Did you catch the problem, though? There's always something with this guy. And here's the

00:26:38.540 problem. Ketchup. He's got ketchup on the hot dog. Of course he does. Of course Mitt Romney puts ketchup

00:26:47.220 on the hot dog. I don't want to read too much into Mitt Romney's hot dog. Tells you a lot about his

00:26:52.840 politics, though. No person over the age of 18, really no person over the age of 14 or 15, should 0.80

00:26:59.960 ever put ketchup on a hot dog. It is sugary sweet. It destroys the delicious taste and flavor and

00:27:08.020 complexities of the hot dog. A hot dog is meant to be enjoyed with chopped onions or relish. I'm not a big

00:27:16.040 relish guy, but some people like it. Sauerkraut. I need sauerkraut on a hot dog. Mustard, but not

00:27:22.960 ketchup. Ketchup is for little children. And this reflects Mitt Romney's politics. Mitt Romney's

00:27:30.460 politics are for little children. Mitt Romney's politics are for people who don't want to play in

00:27:34.840 the big leagues. Mitt Romney's politics are so doe-eyed, naive, innocent, or perhaps cynical.

00:27:47.960 Mitt Romney is the kind of Republican who either always allows himself to get duped or concedes from

00:27:56.080 the very beginning. What major political fight has Mitt Romney ever won for the conservatives?

00:28:01.920 None. He invented Obamacare. That was unfortunate. He was run roughshod over in the race against Obama,

00:28:11.580 and he spent the last seven or eight years attacking Republicans consistently and undermining

00:28:16.240 conservative priorities. Maybe that's because he really believes what he says. And I give him the

00:28:23.100 benefit of the doubt. Maybe when he says, we just need to meet in the middle and be really

00:28:25.700 conciliatory and come on, ha ha, work across the aisle, ha ha ha. Or maybe it's because he just

00:28:30.820 thinks there's no viable path for conservative policies, or maybe he's just a liberal himself.

00:28:34.760 But either way, when it comes to conservative fighting, he behaves like a child, and apparently

00:28:41.500 he eats like one too. Speaking of mastication, before we get into the mailbag, another video from a

00:28:53.100 chewed on a child. And if you're not watching this, if you're just hearing it, I don't know how I can

00:29:10.980 describe it to you. I can't overstate how weird this is. He leans in, and it's not just a little

00:29:17.260 nuzzling with the child. I actually think that's kind of cute. I know people say that everything Joe

00:29:21.260 Biden does is really creepy, and some of the things he does. But I don't know, playing around,

00:29:24.520 making goofy faces at a child, I think that's kind of cute. But he leans in and just starts

00:29:28.340 chewing on the child. And then he leans in and makes a goofy face, and then he smells her hair

00:29:35.900 again. He does the hair smell thing that's got him in so much political trouble. And my takeaway from

00:29:41.920 this is not, as some more eccentric or energetic right-wingers might say, that he's a pedophile or

00:29:50.900 something like that. My takeaway here is, the guy is in cognitive decline. Because even if his 0.58

00:29:58.080 mastication on the child and the hair smelling is totally innocent, it's a huge political loser for 0.90

00:30:05.300 him. And he is constantly criticized for it, and it's completely unnecessary. And yet he keeps doing it.

00:30:11.240 And why does he do it? I assume it's because he is obviously in the throes of cognitive decline.

00:30:16.320 And the thing that we haven't talked about too much on the right, we've all been making fun of

00:30:19.960 how Joe Biden is a couple fries short of a happy meal. But Joe Biden is not the sharpest tool in

00:30:27.120 this yet, and it seems to be getting worse. If you've ever experienced cognitive decline with a

00:30:32.180 loved one, a family member, someone like that, you know it's not just a gradual thing.

00:30:37.780 It starts out kind of slow, and then it gets dramatically worse. Cognitive decline at a

00:30:46.460 certain age really accelerates. And we've seen it really accelerate with Biden. And just think,

00:30:52.900 even though they keep Biden broadly out of the public sight, even though he doesn't give a lot

00:30:56.400 of speeches or rallies or campaign or anything like that, this guy has a lot of pressure on him.

00:31:02.060 He does have to be in public a considerable amount. That pressure is, on the one hand,

00:31:08.500 might keep him a little bit with his wits about him because at least his mind will be stimulated.

00:31:12.400 But that's a lot of pressure. That's a lot of stress at that age. Biden could decline rapidly.

00:31:20.240 We keep saying on the Republican side, oh, it's a long way until the election. Right. That cuts both

00:31:24.200 ways. It's a long way until the election. If this is where we are with Joe Biden now,

00:31:28.300 if we've seen this kind of a decline from 2020 to 2023, is this guy going to be able to walk around

00:31:34.580 the campaign trail in 2024? Or is Gavin Newsom going to be waiting in the wings? I've got some

00:31:40.940 fantastic news, by the way. Have you ever wondered what it would have been like to take a stroll

00:31:46.540 through the Capitol on? January 6th, the worst day in the history of this or any republic.

00:31:56.960 Have you maybe wondered what it's like to take a walk on the surface of the sun?

00:32:01.020 You're in luck because my guest on Michael And this week has firsthand experience with at least

00:32:05.820 one of those things, though he claims firsthand experience with both. This would be the first

00:32:09.700 long-form sit-down interview that Jacob Chansley, the QAnon shaman, has given since being released

00:32:15.520 from jail. You know the Horn Hat guy from January 6th. Check out this teaser.

00:32:20.120 You were in solitary confinement for 10 and a half months.

00:32:22.420 10 and a half months. That seems like torture.

00:32:24.840 I experienced some miraculous things in solitary. I'm freaking out. I'm in a cell. I'm freaking out.

00:32:30.640 I'm like, what the hell? And I had a Bible in my hand. I said, I need you to speak with me.

00:32:34.240 So I closed my eyes, I opened the Bible, I point to a random verse, and the verse was,

00:32:38.480 I am yours and you are mine. I have redeemed you and called you by name, O Jacob.

00:32:42.560 Oh, yeah.

00:32:50.380 What is a shaman? What is a woman? What really happened on January 6th? Find out in this hippie, 0.99

00:32:58.000 trippy interview out now. The big tech approved version of this episode is on YouTube.

00:33:03.840 But if you want to catch the uncensored version, the full version, you've got to get that exclusively

00:33:08.720 on Twitter at M Knowles Show and at Daily Wire Plus. The mailbag is sponsored by Pure Talk.

00:33:16.260 Go to puretalk.com slash Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S. Get 50%, 5-0% off your first month. Take it away.

00:33:23.100 Hey, Michael. My name's Natalia. And as you can probably tell by my accent, I am not an American,

00:33:28.000 but I am an Australian. And I listen to your show every single day without fail. I absolutely love it.

00:33:32.940 My question is just in regards to university and how best to navigate it. I am a conservative

00:33:38.360 Christian woman and I'm currently studying to be an ancient history high school teacher.

00:33:43.200 I'm struggling at the moment because I'm finding that my professors require me to write

00:33:47.520 woke papers and woke content that I don't believe in. Generally speaking, I am an A plus student and

00:33:53.240 get really good grades, but I'm struggling lately because I don't know whether to stick by my values

00:33:57.940 and write papers I believe in or to give in to my professors and write work content that I don't

00:34:02.560 believe in just to get a good grade. I know it sounds like a cowardice question, but I genuinely am

00:34:07.500 struggling. So I'd love any advice that you might have. Thank you so much. Love the show.

00:34:13.420 Thank you so much. That's one. I'm so pleased to hear we've got listeners down in Australia. I've

00:34:17.520 heard this for some years now. Makes me think we need an Australian translation of reasons to vote

00:34:21.640 for Democrats too. It's a good question. And you're thinking that I'm going to give you

00:34:27.680 one of two answers. There's the answer which I really disagree with, which is essentially,

00:34:32.780 oh, just lie, keep your head down, pretend to be a lib, get the degree, and then later on you can

00:34:37.200 have integrity in your work, which will not happen. Integrity, honesty, it's something you have to

00:34:43.600 practice. It's not something that you're just suddenly going to start doing later on in life when

00:34:48.820 the stakes are much higher than they are at university, when you've got a mortgage to pay,

00:34:52.220 when you've got a job to keep. So I'm not going to tell you that. Likewise, though, I'm not going to

00:34:56.400 give you the other answer, which is you should just be totally open and flamboyant at all times

00:35:01.720 about your views, come what may, because then you possibly could flunk out and then you don't get

00:35:06.300 the degree and then you don't get to do your job. And then to quote Mitch McConnell on the subject of

00:35:10.900 elections, the winners get to go make laws and the losers go home. I'm not going to tell you that

00:35:15.080 either. I'm going to give you an answer that a diplomat friend once gave me. And he described it as

00:35:21.980 the difference between diplomacy and flattery. And here's the difference. The flatterer lies. The

00:35:30.020 flatterer is dishonest and will say really nice things about the person that he wants to impress,

00:35:35.180 regardless of whether or not they're true, simply to ingratiate himself to that person. And that's wrong

00:35:40.060 and that's a sin. The diplomat, however, will say the good things that he can say about the person

00:35:50.840 that he is speaking with. And he will say them truthfully and he might omit other truthful things

00:35:58.460 that would be a little harsher, but he will highlight the good in order to have a good relationship with

00:36:05.540 this person and then perhaps to have even more influence later down the road. It's a subtle

00:36:10.540 distinction, but it's clear enough. Don't lie, but you don't need to be wearing the MAGA hat or a horn

00:36:17.080 hat or something at the water cooler every day or in your classroom. This is why, and I say this often,

00:36:23.280 I probably say it two or three times a week, we are called to be wise as serpents and innocent as

00:36:27.860 doves. And I think that distinction might help you. Your job in navigating these treacherous waters

00:36:33.960 is to be a diplomat, not a flatterer, not a kamikaze, a diplomat. And if you're ever really

00:36:43.540 put in a position where they say, well, hey, renounce what you believe, lie, don't say, don't tell the

00:36:49.420 truth. Well, then the die is cast and you have an obligation to the truth. But there's a lot of

00:36:56.720 maneuvering. There's a lot of cleverness you're going to have in the meantime. Next question.

00:37:00.520 Hi, Michael. It's Chuck Meister. I recently had a college friend, an Indian guy, show some interest

00:37:06.620 in Catholicism. And before you ask, unfortunately, it wasn't Arun. He was raised Hindu and felt the

00:37:12.060 services here were just a bit of a show. He tried going to some non-denominational church and said,

00:37:16.820 I quote, the services felt like a cake made entirely of icing. When he was raised in India, 0.64

00:37:21.400 he went to Catholic grade school and high school. So he's always had a reverence for the church.

00:37:25.160 I've already told him to read the introduction to the catechism and John 3, 16. But what do you

00:37:29.840 think would be the most convincing argument for a Hindu looking to convert to Catholicism,

00:37:34.620 aside from watching the Michael Knowles show? Love the show. Thanks.

00:37:38.020 That's a good way to do it. You know, I love the Hindus, love Indians. A disproportionate number of 1.00

00:37:46.120 my close friends have been Indian. And one of my very best friends is Hindu. And then, of course,

00:37:50.840 one of the great listeners to this show, Arun, is also an Indian and a Hindu. And I would, of course,

00:37:55.960 like all of them to convert to Christianity. How do you convince a Hindu? I love what he says when 1.00

00:38:01.840 he says, I went to some modern lib kind of megachurch liturgy, and it seemed like a case

00:38:07.340 made entirely of icing. Another way that this is described is that the Catholic view is first the

00:38:14.340 fast, then the feast. And the modern kind of eccentric view is first the feast, then the

00:38:20.440 hangover. So I would lean into that. If that appeals to him, I would recommend that he check

00:38:26.200 out a traditional Latin mass because a traditional Latin mass has smells and bells. I visited India.

00:38:33.180 I visited Varanasi, which is probably the spiritual capital of India. It's the oldest contigiously

00:38:39.960 inhabited city in the world. All sorts of religious rituals that go back many thousands of years.

00:38:47.160 Temples to Jupiter. I mean, really wild, wild stuff. And so perhaps the ornate nature of the

00:38:55.580 traditional liturgy and its sheer weight of history, the fact that it's existed for 2,000 years and in

00:39:04.340 its present traditional liturgical form for very least 500 years and really significantly much

00:39:10.280 longer than that, that might appeal to him. The fact that there is complexity to it is important.

00:39:17.080 My priest in New York, wonderful man, pointed out that a lot of modern people, when they're looking

00:39:22.240 for modern religion, they say, I just want it to be really clear. They'll say, why do you people pray

00:39:27.680 to saints or something? I don't know. Why do you engage in these ornate and elaborate liturgies?

00:39:32.320 Why do you partake of the sacraments? Why do you do this, that, and the other? It's not clear.

00:39:36.560 Why isn't it just really simple and clear? And my priest points out, shallows are clear.

00:39:43.020 Shallows are clear. Deep waters are murky. They're darker. There's more to it. You can't

00:39:49.040 take it all in at once. Shallow thinking is very clear. Shallow religion is very, very clear.

00:39:54.640 And so Hinduism, which is a pagan type of religion, is extraordinarily complex. It doesn't really have a

00:40:00.620 theology to it, but it's got an extraordinarily complex type of mythology, which can take you

00:40:06.940 somewhere. It can point you in, broadly speaking, perhaps the right direction. So then when you apply

00:40:14.820 the rigors of theology and accept complexity and ornateness and the humility of not grasping it all

00:40:23.100 at once, that might appeal to him. Okay, next question. Hey, Michael. So seeing as science is

00:40:28.740 indeed fake, Clavin had a creation scientist on recently and reminded me of the fact that while

00:40:34.580 some of the current scientific battles that we're fighting, like abortion, climate change, vaccines,

00:40:38.760 and transgenderism are all worthy of fighting and winning, I think we're giving up one of the most 1.00

00:40:43.260 important scientific debates. And we gave it up a long time ago to the libs, namely that humans did not

00:40:49.180 fall from other creatures. We are created specifically by God in his image. Another piece

00:40:53.900 that I feel is pretty widely accepted by conservatives is that the earth is billions and billions of years

00:40:58.280 old, despite some pretty compelling fossil evidence to the contrary, as well as the problem of death

00:41:03.060 prior to the fall of man. I think this is an area that is really important that we seeded long ago

00:41:09.820 and the court cases in the mid-20th century around education really helped drive that home.

00:41:14.640 Many of these problems we face now, in my opinion, stem from us giving up this debate. So from your

00:41:18.820 perspective, curious on your take of the historical atom and the age of the earth, if you think it

00:41:23.740 could be 10 or 11,000 years old, it's a pretty based take, if you ask me. Really good question. And I know

00:41:29.780 there are a lot of modern conservatives who want to sidestep it because they fear that if they at all

00:41:34.660 question whatever the prevailing orthodoxy on evolution is du jour, because it changes considerably

00:41:42.060 since the time of Darwin seems to change year by year. But if they question whatever the fashionable view

00:41:47.300 is today, then they'll be called hicks or rubes or idiots or something like that. If they question 1.00

00:41:52.260 how old the universe is, the cosmos is, the earth is, even though, again, science changes that number

00:41:59.040 pretty regularly. But if we question it, then, you know, we're a big bunch of hick-rubes idiots. 1.00

00:42:04.920 So they don't want to engage in that. But it's a serious debate. And so how must one think about it? 1.00

00:42:11.820 I suppose I just don't think about it very often. Because science is fake and because

00:42:16.480 virtually every claim ever made by modern science after the scientific revolution is false,

00:42:22.840 then, or has been proven false at some point, I just don't worry about it too much. And I accept

00:42:27.820 the nice advances in technology with caution because very often those advances in technology

00:42:34.300 have all sorts of externalities that cause all sorts of problems in the world. So I approach even

00:42:38.000 even that, even the very best products of the scientific revolution, I approach them

00:42:43.100 with some caution and trepidation. I reject the worldview that has come out of the scientific

00:42:49.440 revolution, which is that all that really matters about reality is fundamentally physical. I just,

00:42:55.100 that's not true. That's obviously not true. So I reject that. And then in terms of the age of the

00:43:02.120 world or anything, it just doesn't affect my life in any way. It doesn't affect, forget even my

00:43:08.300 personal life, it doesn't affect my thinking and the way I think about other things all that much.

00:43:12.700 I consider Genesis to be the most insightful account of the creation. And so if in some physical way,

00:43:23.360 the physical history of the world is somehow different or, I don't know, distinguished in some way from

00:43:34.200 that account, I don't really care because the story in just a handful of chapters that I see in Genesis

00:43:39.020 most clearly to me accounts for how the world really works. The one thing I would insist upon,

00:43:46.240 I would not insist upon the earth being, I don't know, 10,000 years old or something. I would not insist upon

00:43:50.920 this type of evolution or that type of evolution or no type of evolution. The one thing I would insist

00:43:56.220 upon though is a real Adam and Eve. I think human beings must descend from a real Adam and Eve,

00:44:03.780 from a common ancestor. This is called monogenism. And Pope Pius XII insisted upon this in

00:44:09.260 Omani Generis. We have to do that or else our understanding even of human nature falls apart.

00:44:17.820 And, okay, so let's say that our understanding of human nature is wrong. Well, I don't know what

00:44:22.440 vision of human nature would replace it. The libs who would replace it don't have much of an answer

00:44:27.200 to that. And they don't really have much evidence that we don't descend from a common ancestor. They

00:44:31.180 don't really have any evidence at all of that. So that is the part where I think one really must

00:44:37.000 insist for one's faith. Okay, next question. Hello, Mr. Knowles. It is your favorite bass player once again.

00:44:43.740 Slap My Bass coming at you with a music question of all things. So recently I just joined a church band

00:44:50.740 playing bass, of course. And my question to you is, how do you feel about contemporary music

00:44:58.140 performing in churches? For example, guitars and basses, as opposed to the traditional pipe organ

00:45:05.780 that would proclaim the hymns? Or if they are using some sort of New Age hymns that you would find

00:45:13.900 on something like a Worship Together compilation that you would get from Time Life magazine.

00:45:19.920 I'm curious about what your thoughts are. Thanks for your time once again.

00:45:23.400 I love the bass. I know you're an excellent bassist. I don't think that stuff belongs in

00:45:29.600 church. I don't think that Brahms belongs at a rock concert. And I don't think that the modern

00:45:36.800 pop bubblegum music, or even worse, the highly percussive music, belongs in church. Because music

00:45:44.500 is really important, as Plato points out. It bypasses the reason. It speaks most directly to our souls.

00:45:51.120 And it can shape our souls. This is why if you get out of a car and you've been listening to rap

00:45:56.780 music and some kind of gangsta, hideous rap, your mind's going to be in a worse place. Your whole

00:46:01.100 self is going to be in a worse place. And the same thing is true in church. This is why I'll go even

00:46:06.320 further. I'm skeptical of polyphony in church. You know, I'm more a fan of monophony, meaning

00:46:13.200 plain chant. Gregorian chant, I think, is much more conducive to worship. The early Christians, 0.63

00:46:21.120 throughout the Middle Ages, preferred Gregorian chant, not because they hadn't discovered harmony.

00:46:29.960 Pre-Christian worship music, pre-Christian liturgical music, was much more ornate than the kind of music

00:46:37.360 you saw from the early church up through the Middle Ages and in some traditional parishes today.

00:46:42.160 The Christians stripped it down a little bit and brought it into that unison chanting for a reason 0.99

00:46:51.140 because it focuses the mind and it actually takes personality out of it. When the gospel is chanted

00:46:57.460 rather than read, that's not a way to show off your singing skills if you're a priest. That's a way to

00:47:02.020 take the personality out of it so you don't have some ham actor yucking it up there on the altar,

00:47:07.140 but you've just got the word of God coming to you in this beautiful way that speaks directly into

00:47:12.100 your soul. And so I would just be careful of it, especially with percussion. It can rile you up.

00:47:15.960 It riles up the base passions and it can take your mind and soul off the worship of God as it ought to

00:47:21.420 be done properly and reverently. All right, the rest of the show continues now. On that harsh note,

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 21, 2023

Ep. 1292 - Ron DeSantis Braces For The Ramaswamy Tsunami

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