The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1297 - New Alien Testimony Changes Everything

00:00:00.000 Throughout history, political activists have endured all manner of suffering in order to

00:00:04.280 advance their causes. Gandhi marched 240 miles to protest the British salt monopoly. Nelson Mandela

00:00:11.420 spent 27 years in prison, opposing the South African regime. And yesterday, Democrat Congressman

00:00:18.600 Greg Kaysar stopped eating for eight hours to protest for more breaks in the workday in Texas.

00:00:26.240 When Congressman Kaysar first demanded more time off for employees, I didn't know if he was serious.

00:00:31.940 But when the congressman forewent his mid-afternoon snack to bring attention to the issue,

00:00:36.800 I knew he meant business. Now, of course, there was a time when Americans weren't such fatties 0.91

00:00:43.760 that they could go a few hours without stuffing their faces and not hold a press conference about

00:00:49.160 it. There was even a time when people fasted regularly as a matter of religious or even

00:00:54.640 just physical discipline. But those days are gone. And in the decadent year of our Lord, 2023,

00:01:01.800 a brief interruption of gluttony constitutes an act of political heroism.

00:01:07.940 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:10.260 Welcome back to The Michael Knowles Show. Congressman Kaysar's brief interruption of

00:01:23.660 stuffing himself actually was not the craziest thing on Capitol Hill yesterday. There's a lot

00:01:29.940 going on. You know, I'm still in Hungary and we'll get to a fabulous statement that Prime Minister

00:01:34.500 Viktor Orban just made here. I'll be speaking later on today at the MCC Fest in Egerström in Hungary.

00:01:43.020 But going back to Capitol Hill for a second, the craziest thing that took place at Capitol Hill

00:01:47.060 yesterday was the UFO hearing. And I went in and I wanted to keep an open mind. And you know,

00:01:56.800 we've had some debates about aliens at the Daily Wire. I cannot overstate just how stupid these

00:02:04.000 hearings are. I predicted they would be stupid. I tried to keep an open mind. It's so dumb and so

00:02:11.000 obviously fake. But let's hear them out. First clip from Congressman Tim Burchett asking,

00:02:20.620 and this is a very serious question, has anyone been injured or harmed retrieving or even covering

00:02:29.100 up the supposed alien spacecraft? Do you have any personal knowledge of people who have been harmed

00:02:35.460 or injured in efforts to cover up or conceal these extraterrestrial technology? Yes.

00:02:43.500 Personally. Have you heard anyone been murdered that you would think that you know of or have heard

00:02:49.360 of, I guess? I have to be careful asking that question. I directed people with that knowledge

00:02:53.960 to the appropriate authorities. Maybe in a, if we could get it, get in a confidential area,

00:03:01.060 SCIF, we could talk about that. But unfortunately, we were denied access to the SCIF. And that's very

00:03:08.640 unfortunate in this, in this scenario. A SCIF is a secure setting where you can talk about sensitive

00:03:15.180 information. The implication here is that either aliens have murdered Americans, American servicemen

00:03:25.280 and other government workers, or that the government has murdered Americans for knowing too much about

00:03:32.500 aliens. The implication here is every sci-fi horror alien movie come to life. That's the implication.

00:03:42.840 I use that word carefully. It's an implication because we don't have any names. We don't have

00:03:49.460 any dates. We don't have any evidence. We just have this guy's testimony. I am not questioning the

00:03:56.540 guy's integrity. I'm not saying he's lying. I just can't help but notice, we talked about this on the

00:04:02.240 show yesterday, every single time we've, we've got the smoking gun, we've got proof of an alien and UFOs

00:04:09.060 flying saucers. We don't get it. We don't get the details. We just get insinuations and implications.

00:04:14.940 And trust me, I know you got to trust me. If only we could get into the SCIF. If only I could tell you

00:04:20.080 what happened. If only I could give you names. If only I could give you details. So this is amazing

00:04:24.740 bread and circuses TV that the American public is gobbling up. I'm talking about it right now on

00:04:29.040 the show. So I guess it worked. But is there any actual substance to what they're saying?

00:04:35.040 And Napoleon Luna, Republican congressman asks if the man testifying has ever feared for his life,

00:04:42.360 following up on this question of have people been murdered in these coverups? Have people been

00:04:45.880 injured? Here's his answer. In the last couple of years, have you had incidences that have caused you

00:04:52.820 to be in fear for your life for addressing these issues? Yes, personally. I just want everyone to

00:04:59.420 note that he's coming forward in fear of his life to put in perspective, if they were really not scared

00:05:05.540 about this information coming out, why would someone be intimidated like that? Okay, maybe he is in fear

00:05:10.640 of his life. Look, maybe it's real. All right, let's just say maybe ET is real. And we've got all these

00:05:15.100 aliens and spacecraft and secret bunkers in Area 51. Okay. But again, where's the evidence? This

00:05:23.660 exchange, which is captivating and it's gone viral and people are talking about it. He, this man fears

00:05:28.660 for his life. What kind of evidence is that? The evidence being presented here is a guy's feelings.

00:05:34.880 I don't mean to mock his feelings, but when we're talking about congressional testimony,

00:05:40.860 when we're talking about the little green men, I would rather hear some facts and details and

00:05:47.680 evidence because these kinds of insinuations can be made about anything. Well, yes, I did feel,

00:05:54.080 I felt very threatened. This is what the libs say on college campuses. They say, I felt unsafe when you

00:05:59.220 called me by a pronoun that I don't like. And therefore I felt like it was really dangerous and

00:06:04.500 threatening. Feel, feel, feel. You can never disprove a feeling. So I'm really not mocking the guy.

00:06:09.540 I don't mean to be harsh on him, but give me something. If we're going to hold this big circus

00:06:16.920 hearing, give me anything real. Nancy Mace got the closest, I think, to an answer. Another 0.71

00:06:25.020 liberal Republican Congress lady, Nancy Mace asks, all right, you're afraid for your life. You're saying

00:06:31.520 people have been threatened and harmed and injured and all about this. Well, do we have the goods? Do we

00:06:36.000 have spacecraft? Do we have alien bodies? And this answer, to me, is the most telling of the entire

00:06:43.220 testimony, though in a way that's different from how most people are interpreting it.

00:06:47.200 If you believe we have crashed craft, stated earlier, do we have the bodies of the pilots who

00:06:52.940 piloted this craft? As I've stated publicly already in my News Nation interview, biologics came with some

00:06:59.200 of these recoveries. Yeah. Were they, I guess, human or non-human biologics?

00:07:06.920 Non-human, and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge on the program I talked to

00:07:11.000 that are currently still on the program. And was this documentary evidence, this video, photos,

00:07:16.800 eyewitness? Like, how would that be determined? The specific documentation I would have to talk to

00:07:23.020 a skiff about. If only we got that skiff, that would have been nice. The word that perked my ears

00:07:29.680 up here, biologics. What the hell is biologics? That's a weird word. That's a weird clinical jargony

00:07:37.080 word that nobody really knows the meaning of. Did he mean bodies? Well, he would have just said bodies.

00:07:44.600 Did he mean tissue, organs, splattered alien guts? No. Biologics, which is a term that when it is used,

00:07:52.480 and it's used very rarely, is often used with regard to medicine. It's not, what does that mean?

00:07:57.720 It was non-human biologics. Okay. What could that, that could be anything. You could recover a craft

00:08:04.100 that had some other organism in it, had a single cell organism in it. They said, well, it's biologics.

00:08:10.540 We got it. Had some other kind of tissue. I don't know. Some guy had a cat hair on him.

00:08:15.060 What is it, when are we going to get specific? Now, what the man testifying here says is, well,

00:08:21.300 I would just need to be in a skiff to get specific about that. Okay. Can the Congress not do it?

00:08:28.980 Can the Congress not demand the opportunity to meet with this guy off the record in a skiff?

00:08:36.180 Maybe not. Maybe it is a super duper deep secret cover-up, and we've been storing

00:08:40.020 alien bodies in refrigerators for a long time. But what seems more likely to you?

00:08:46.440 That E.T. is real and in a bunker somewhere underground, or that the government is distracting

00:08:53.900 you, or that gullible people are following fantasies, or that, what? That at the moment

00:09:02.340 that we've got really pressing national matters, the U.S. Congress and the bureaucracy are putting

00:09:10.980 on a bread and circuses show that is succeeding because we're all talking about it. What do you

00:09:16.160 think seems more likely? If it were the case that it were the former, if it were the case

00:09:22.820 that we really have all these alien bodies, why have we never, ever, ever gotten even one

00:09:30.380 hard detail, verifiable piece of evidence about any of it in all the decades that people have

00:09:37.760 been talking about it, including the last few years where it's really come up? What seems more

00:09:42.440 likely to you? I think I've got my answer. Mr. Walsh has his answer. Which side are you on? Pick a

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00:10:59.300 Speaking of bizarre claims coming from our government, Joe Biden made a claim just yesterday about

00:11:07.120 one of his great successes that I don't really remember happening.

00:11:14.440 I said I'd cure cancer. It looked at me like, why cancer? Because no one thinks we can.

00:11:19.500 That's why. And we can. We end the cancer as we know it.

00:11:23.620 Do you remember Joe Biden curing cancer? I remember at the end of the Obama administration,

00:11:30.680 Barack Obama said, Joe, we're going to take a moonshot and put you in charge of curing cancer.

00:11:36.420 To which every single person in America said, oh, well, so much for that. So much for getting

00:11:41.160 a cure for cancer. We got Joe in charge. That's a guarantee it's never going to get done.

00:11:44.320 And Joe Biden reiterated his desire to cure cancer again and hasn't done it. Obviously,

00:11:49.540 cancer still exists. Cancer is still very dangerous. And Biden's done essentially nothing

00:11:54.960 on it. And now he's declaring victory. This is Joe Biden's George Bush standing on the aircraft

00:12:02.360 carrier with the mission accomplished sign, except he's not going to get any flack for it.

00:12:06.240 No one's really going to call him out. Some of us in the conservative media, well, it won't matter.

00:12:11.000 It won't matter that Joe Biden is brazenly lying and pretending to have achieved an implausible

00:12:16.680 achievement, which we all know he did not achieve. And some people are shocked. Some people, I am not

00:12:25.100 shocked. Do you know why? Because these guys say that men are women with a straight face. These guys

00:12:31.520 tell you to your face that a man is really a woman. And they've gotten a lot of us to go along with it.

00:12:40.060 This is the point. I know it's an overused literary reference. This is the point of the final chapters of

00:12:46.580 1984. The point is not that the evil regime is going to lie. It's not that the evil regime is

00:12:57.420 going to deceive you. It's not even that the evil regime is going to torture you until you utter the

00:13:03.120 lie, knowing that it's a lie. It's that the evil regime is going to confuse you so much. It's going

00:13:10.540 to mess with your head and your perception of reality so much that you're not even going to be able to

00:13:15.560 discern the difference between truth and lies. You'll believe the lie. And then when they change

00:13:19.960 their story, you're going to believe the contradictory changed story. And you are going

00:13:24.280 to be so disoriented that you're not even going to notice it. And that's what's happening here.

00:13:28.120 Joe Biden says, yeah, I cured cancer, making tiny little ripples in the media. It's going to be on my

00:13:35.260 show, maybe a handful of other conservative shows. They're going to move on. It's not going to matter.

00:13:39.400 And some people, some people are going to believe it. They're going to be libs 10, 20 years from now.

00:13:44.520 Remember when Joe Biden cured cancer? Oh yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Speaking of transgenderism,

00:13:49.820 which I'm certain I can't talk about on YouTube, Dylan Mulvaney is going on a college speaking tour.

00:13:55.840 Speaking of just pushing lies everywhere, including at places that are supposed to be uniquely concerned

00:14:01.940 with the truth. Dylan Mulvaney is going on a college speaking tour. He's going to be speaking on a

00:14:07.800 including female empowerment. And here's the worst part. He's going to be charging 40 grand in

00:14:14.040 honoraria. My least favorite part of the Dylan Mulvaney college tour is that this man is getting

00:14:20.920 much higher honoraria than I am. It's outrageous. I need to call my speaker's bureau. The whole thing

00:14:28.280 drives me crazy. But that especially grates at me. And of course he does. I can't help but notice

00:14:35.320 the parallel. I hope I'm not being too navel gazing here, too self-centered when I think

00:14:41.980 about the parallel because I think it's an important political one. Dylan Mulvaney, his job

00:14:48.640 is just my job, except he's a lib. I guess there are a few other differences. Some of the high heels

00:14:54.020 and the dresses are probably a little different too. But his job is that, what is my job? My job is to go

00:14:59.600 on to social media and other more traditional broadcast platforms like radio and things like

00:15:04.060 that and state my opinion about things and give my perspective and bring in a little bit of history

00:15:09.360 and philosophy and persuade you of my vision of politics, culture, and reality. That's my job.

00:15:15.980 And I do that through the multimedia and I do it through a college speaking tour and I do it through

00:15:21.120 books. I guarantee you Dylan Mulvaney is going to get a book deal at some point, probably sooner rather

00:15:25.900 than later. So we have basically the same job. We do basically the same things with a few very

00:15:32.820 important distinctions. And the difference is Dylan Mulvaney is going to be paid a lot more money

00:15:40.260 to do a lot less work and he's going to be censored a lot less often than I am. And it's not just me,

00:15:45.680 it's every other conservative. Every other conservative, broadcaster, commentator, author, public

00:15:53.140 speaker, influencer, politician, whatever word you want. We're not going to be totally censored,

00:16:00.520 but we are going to be censored, for instance, on that big tech video platform that doesn't let us

00:16:05.620 talk about the most pressing ideological issue in our culture right now. Dylan Mulvaney gets to talk

00:16:11.160 about that issue and he won't be censored anywhere. He'll be promoted by the big tech platforms

00:16:15.900 and he'll be funded. It's not that there's no funding on the right. There is some funding on the

00:16:20.540 right. He'll get a lot more funding and we'll get certain sponsorships. He'll get the big brand

00:16:26.120 sponsorships. Famously, infamously, he destroyed the most popular beer in America because of his

00:16:31.440 sponsorship relationship. It's just one tiny glimpse, and I happen to see it because I know this area

00:16:38.280 pretty well. It's one tiny glimpse of how the libs just wield so much more power and influence 1.00

00:16:46.600 for doing the same type of thing, but with the regime approved opinions. It's not that you can't

00:16:55.200 talk about transgenderism on YouTube. It's that I can't talk about transgenderism on YouTube. It's not 0.51

00:17:01.420 that one cannot talk about it. One can, unless one has a conservative view of the issue and happens to

00:17:09.700 be prominent. If I had a smaller YouTube channel, if I didn't have a million and a half subscribers,

00:17:13.340 I could talk about it just fine. No one would. But the moment that a conservative starts to gain

00:17:18.200 ground on that issue, that's when they, the moment that you release a big documentary called

00:17:24.640 What is a Woman? That's when the big tech comes after you. The moment that you have a speech on 1.00

00:17:29.760 transgenderism that persuades people and goes viral around the world, that's when they come after you. 1.00

00:17:34.460 It's when you're an effective conservative. So what do the youngsters think about all of this?

00:17:39.640 What are the youths that Dylan Mulvaney is going to be speaking to? What do they think about it?

00:17:44.400 Well, there's some good news on that front, actually. I'll start with the bad news. I'll

00:17:49.360 give you the good news. The bad news is about my generation, the millennials, the poor millennials. 0.99

00:17:53.320 44% of millennials think that misgendering, referring to someone by the correct pronouns,

00:18:00.900 when you call a man he and you call a woman she, if they think that they're the opposite sex.

00:18:05.060 44% of millennials think that should be a criminal offense, that you could go to jail for calling a

00:18:12.260 man he. 35% of millennials disagree. They don't think it should be a criminal offense.

00:18:19.900 And 26% either don't know or don't really have an opinion on the subject. So the vast majority,

00:18:25.440 65%, either think it should be criminal or don't really care if it's criminal.

00:18:29.160 The good news is, Zoomers are way more conservative, way more in line with reality, 0.99

00:18:34.980 and way more based. So among Gen Z, 33%, a third, think that misgendering, quote unquote,

00:18:43.420 should be a criminal offense. That's still a huge number, but it's way lower, 25% lower than the

00:18:48.920 millennials. And 48% disagree. So much higher percentage actively think, no, we shouldn't

00:18:54.080 criminalize people for calling dudes he and him. The remainder say, neither or don't know.

00:19:00.100 Other polls that have come out show that the Zoomers also are way less down on the trans agenda,

00:19:06.120 way less down with the trans agenda. I guess they're more down on the trans agenda. They're

00:19:10.180 anti-trans at a much higher rate than the millennials are. This is good stuff. Makes me think 1.00

00:19:15.180 that the kids are all right. Why is that happening? I think it's because the millennials came of political

00:19:22.100 age in the age of Obama, in the age of idealism and fantasy. And they came out of the last gasps of a

00:19:29.720 semi-normal society into hope and change and happy Obama and madness. The Zoomers came of political age 1.00

00:19:38.060 when that balloon of optimism popped. They came of political age at a time when the last vestiges of

00:19:45.720 normality were gone. They came at a time of rising populism. They came at a time when conservatives

00:19:53.060 stopped losing politely. And you had McCain and Romney saying, well, you know, Barack Obama,

00:19:59.000 he's a really good man. I just, we happen to disagree and it's my job to lose to him. That was

00:20:02.900 over by the time Trump came around and he said, Mexican immigrants are rapists and murderers.

00:20:07.800 Barack Obama probably wasn't born in this country. Hillary Clinton should go to prison. Like, I'm not

00:20:12.440 saying everything he said was nice or even true or anything like that. I'm just saying all those

00:20:16.520 niceties went away. And Trump was not only a cause of this reaction, but he was an expression of it

00:20:22.760 as well. And the bright side of that, the bright side of that crassness and bluntness is that this

00:20:28.900 younger generation that came of age at that time, they're not going to go along with the BS.

00:20:35.100 The millennials are all about the BS. The Zoomers, not going to go along with it. They're sick of it. 1.00

00:20:41.780 They were not raised in an age when that was going to be really hopeful and exciting. Uh-uh.

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00:23:29.760 think my YouTube version of my show is going to be about three minutes today. But we got to talk about

00:23:33.940 this. There is a taxpayer-funded queer middle school opening in Phoenix. It doesn't just happen

00:23:43.960 to be kind of light in the loafers. The school is explicitly, intentionally queer. What does that 1.00

00:23:50.320 mean? Well, it's called the Queer Blended Learning Center. It's launching in downtown Phoenix in August,

00:23:56.780 funded by Arizona's education vouchers. It's a project of one in 10, which is some LGBT,

00:24:02.720 LGBT, LMNOP activist group. And they say the mission is, quote, to serve LGBTQ youth and young

00:24:10.300 adults ages 11 to 24. Eleven. They say the point is to, quote, enhance their lives by providing

00:24:20.860 empowering social and service programs that promote self-expression, self-acceptance, leadership

00:24:25.240 development, and healthy life choices. And this is the one that got me. We just had this population

00:24:31.820 of sixth, seventh, and eighth graders that could really benefit from a safe space to be able to

00:24:37.080 really have exceptional education while also having education that pertains to their own

00:24:41.620 identity, says Clayton Davenport, one in 10's director of development and marketing.

00:24:47.260 Can you even fathom how creepy this guy is, Clayton Davenport? We just, we realized that we were not

00:24:54.620 talking to enough 11-year-olds about deviant sex. And so we just wanted to make sure, we needed to

00:25:00.080 provide a safe space where we, we educators, we, Clayton Davenports of the world, could speak

00:25:06.360 to 11-year-olds about deviant sex all day long and do so at taxpayer expense. That's really,

00:25:13.100 really important. Now, the taxpayer expense part, it's a little bit of a two-edged sort because the

00:25:18.700 way they're doing it is because of the Arizona voucher system. The Arizona voucher system is something

00:25:22.780 that's been promoted by conservatives. It's promoted by conservatives so that we can get

00:25:26.860 charter schools that are better than the government-run unionized schools so that we can get

00:25:31.540 taxpayer funding for religious schools so that parents have a choice. They can send their kid

00:25:35.460 to a Catholic school if they want to get a decent education. Now that voucher, it's being used against

00:25:40.760 the conservatives to fund this grooming party for 11-year-olds. What do we say? Well, here's,

00:25:45.600 here's the reaction. The squishes are going to say, look, what's good for the goose is good for the

00:25:52.200 gander. All right. Do you really want the government coming in and saying what kind of

00:25:57.020 schools can and cannot be funded by taxpayers? You want the government doing that? You want the

00:26:02.420 government doing the job of the government? No, that'd be crazy. It's going to be used against us,

00:26:06.640 hypothetically. So we got to fund the groomer schools because if we don't fund the groomer schools,

00:26:12.700 then they might not want to fund the Catholic schools and the conservative schools and the

00:26:16.760 classical education schools. And, you know, who's to say which one's better?

00:26:24.780 Who's to say? Who's to say? I think if you set up a school, especially a taxpayer expense,

00:26:33.640 but if you set up a school with the intent to talk to 11-year-olds about deviant sexual behaviors,

00:26:41.580 you should go to prison. You should not be receiving the government cheese. That should be

00:26:50.480 illegal. But come on, we're supposed to have a neutral public square. We've never had a neutral

00:26:55.400 public square. Well, we need viewpoint neutrality from the government. We've never had that. That's

00:26:59.740 not real. That's not real. Well, who's to say that a classical education is better than a groomer

00:27:06.760 education? Me. That's who says it. Me. I'm saying that. And you're saying that. And every reasonable

00:27:11.360 person is saying that. And Clayton Davenport's not saying that, but Clayton Davenport's a groomer

00:27:15.480 and his opinion doesn't matter. Okay. This isn't anti-American authoritarian. Oh, if I hear that

00:27:22.160 word, one word, the authoritarian, right. Give me a break, man. Yeah. Don't groom kids. If that's

00:27:27.320 authoritarian, then call me Francisco freaking Franco. Okay. Because we used to be able to say that

00:27:33.360 in this country until like five minutes ago. And now we've got to pretend otherwise. You know,

00:27:39.320 another authoritarian leader happens to be the best leader in Europe, Victor Orban. I'm in Hungary

00:27:44.740 right now. So I'm paying a little closer attention to Hungarian politics. Orban just came out. He had

00:27:48.900 a great line. He said, we're not a liberal democracy. We're an illiberal democracy. Actually,

00:27:54.480 we're a Christian democracy. And he just a couple of days ago said, by having rejected Christianity,

00:27:59.840 we have in actual fact become hedonistic pagans. That is true. He's describing Europe. I think this

00:28:10.020 could apply to the West broadly. It's not that by rejecting Christianity, we've just become

00:28:15.560 enlightened and secular. And we don't do those religious rituals anymore. We just do different

00:28:19.720 ones. And we just got out of a month where we were doing religious rituals all the time

00:28:23.520 with the special body paint, the rainbows and the flags and the big parades, the processions.

00:28:30.940 We used to have processions to the Blessed Mother. We used to have processions that involved great

00:28:35.860 saints, that involved our Lord. Now we have processions that involve deviant men wearing 1.00

00:28:40.320 leather, smacking each other in front of children on floats. They're processions. And what kind of a

00:28:45.800 procession is that? It's not just liberalism. It's not just secularism. It's not just having a little

00:28:51.180 fun. It's hedonistic paganism. Prime Minister Orban just hit the nail on the head. We'll be talking

00:28:57.580 about a lot of these things tomorrow when I'm at the MCC Fest speaking in Egerstrom. I think I'm

00:29:02.880 mispronouncing that, but I'm very excited to do that. And that will conclude my trip. And then we'll

00:29:06.780 come back and be back in the studio next week. Gotta restore some standards, folks.

00:29:14.220 There's a story. I don't know. Since two-thirds of the show is not on YouTube anyway, might as well

00:29:20.800 get into it today. A little tease at the very least. Malaysia's government just stepped into hot

00:29:25.660 water. This is Malaysia. It's not evil Western Orban. It's Malaysia, which I think the libs still

00:29:30.620 consider good because it's non-Western. So Malaysia halted a concert by a band called the 1975. What is

00:29:37.760 that? I don't know. It says here it's a British pop rock band. And the Malaysian government halted this

00:29:42.920 concert because two dudes on stage, two members of the band started kissing each other. And Malaysia

00:29:47.500 came in and said, nah, you're not going to do that here. Oh no. How terrible. How awful. The liberals

00:29:54.220 up in arms. A reminder that the liberals, for all their talk about multiculturalism, have absolutely

00:30:01.580 no respect for anyone else's culture. The Biden administration during Pride Month, I heard this

00:30:05.980 from a liberal journalist in Hungary. She was in favor of this. I was quite opposed to it. The Biden

00:30:11.100 administration sent a big gay pride flag, even though Hungary is anti-public LGBT stuff, sent a big

00:30:19.780 pride flag, had a big pride celebration in the embassy. Forget about Hungary. They did it at the 0.96

00:30:23.900 Vatican. It's so disrespectful. We say, oh, we need multiculturalism. We need to bring everybody in. 1.00

00:30:31.220 Our culture is so evil. We want to learn from all the cultures of the world. And then in the very next

00:30:37.060 breath, these liberals impose their radical, hedonistic, pagan ideology onto others. You know,

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00:31:52.260 Finally, finally, we've arrived at my favorite time of the week when I get to hear from you

00:31:57.800 in the mailbag. This mailbag is sponsored by Pure Talk. Go to puretalk.com, select a plan,

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00:32:10.080 Hi, Michael. I'm a fellow Catholic and new to your show and heard you mention how you and your wife

00:32:14.540 came back together after some time apart. I was wondering how realistic that would be in my

00:32:18.960 situation. I met the most amazing man and we were in a great relationship until he made a big life

00:32:24.440 change which made him very stressed and overwhelmed. He told me he couldn't be in a relationship but

00:32:29.460 that he wanted to see me again in the future. It's been almost a year, we don't talk, but we're on

00:32:34.760 good terms and I still hold on to the hope that we can get back together. I'm 37, he's 47, we had a

00:32:40.440 solid connection and we're honest with each other. I keep hoping that he will come back but I don't know

00:32:45.160 what else I can do at this point. Any advice? Thank you. Yes, I'm sorry to hear about your

00:32:50.940 situation. I would dump that zero and get yourself a hero. That's what I would do. He sounds like a

00:32:58.500 schmuck. I know you like him still and I don't know why he instigated this breakup and he needed 1.00

00:33:04.500 time to find himself or whatever nonsense but he sounds like a big putz and you should dump him.

00:33:09.580 Sorry to say, I know, I'm sure you like him and maybe you guys spent a lot of time together

00:33:13.980 but there are ways to get back together with someone that you've broken up with. Obviously,

00:33:21.780 I'm living proof of that but the thing that got me about what you said is you don't talk

00:33:27.800 and I don't think there's really a way to get back together or it's much less likely that you will get

00:33:33.660 back together if you're not still talking. So you're on good terms, it was a perfectly fine breakup

00:33:38.100 but you're not still talking, you're not in each other's lives and you're holding out this hope for

00:33:43.600 this guy and what is he saying? He had a big life change. I don't know what the life change is.

00:33:47.740 It really could be anything. It could be maybe, what did he get a new job? Did he, did a family

00:33:52.220 member die? Did he have to move somewhere? Whatever it is, if a man, especially a man of his age,

00:33:59.140 cannot handle whatever that change is, there are going to be a lot of changes in life, life comes at

00:34:04.740 you fast and also maintain a loving relationship that one hopes moves towards marriage, then he's just

00:34:11.680 not the right guy. He might be the sweetest guy in the world, he just doesn't have his act together.

00:34:15.380 Okay, you should have a guy who does have his act together. So I'm sorry to give harsh advice here

00:34:21.280 because maybe there's a 1% chance that you guys could get back together. I wouldn't hang my hopes

00:34:26.440 on that. Dump him. You can do better, my dear. Next question.

00:34:31.820 Hey Michael, this is Marty, one of your senior citizen fans. Thank you for great shows and the way

00:34:39.820 you present things and entertain us. My question to you is, why do we let the left control the language?

00:34:49.220 Why do we let them control it in the way that they include the LGB whenever they talk about the

00:34:58.020 trans issue? Aren't they really manipulating us into having to accept all rather than being able to 1.00

00:35:08.040 point out the fact that this trans agenda and non-binary stuff is a lie and we do not go along 1.00

00:35:17.700 with it? Your points on that would be welcomed. And how can we help the Republicans run for office

00:35:27.860 if we do separate it like this? Thanks and God bless. Thank you so much. That's a really great

00:35:34.200 question. So why do we allow them to do it? We allow them to do it because they control the

00:35:42.360 institutions. Wrote a little book called Speechless. We don't have a bell here in Hungary. It would be 1.00

00:35:48.280 too expensive to check that. But wrote a book called Speechless, Controlling Words, Controlling Minds,

00:35:51.680 about how the Libs control the language because language makes up the stuff of our consciousness

00:35:56.160 so they can win debates before the debates are even had, like on the redefinition of marriage. When

00:36:00.520 the left changed the topic from what is marriage to who has the right to get married? Will we have

00:36:07.960 marriage equality? They basically won the debate before there ever was a debate because if the

00:36:13.160 debate becomes a question of who has a right, then we all are supposed to have rights. The question was

00:36:16.580 always what is marriage? Does sexual difference have something to do with marriage, which it obviously

00:36:20.660 does? They were able to do that because they control the media, they control the education system, 0.95

00:36:24.980 they control the bureaucracy, they control all of the institutions that push that language on us.

00:36:30.140 And it just seeps in. You will find yourself using their language a lot. The other reason here,

00:36:34.840 though, for the LGB getting lumped in with the T, I know there's a big movement of people who say,

00:36:39.880 hey, especially among gay and lesbian identifying people who say, hey, we don't want anything to do

00:36:44.880 with that. Get that out of here. We don't want the T. The T is crazy. We're actually, the T undermines

00:36:50.140 the LGB part because the LGB part says we're born this way and what is a G? Is a guy who

00:36:56.720 is Andrew Tate, I guess, calls himself top G. What is gay, though? It means you're a man

00:37:01.520 who is attracted to other men. Well, if men can be women and women can be men and there's no such 0.77

00:37:05.120 real category as men, well, then gay no longer makes any sense. I get all of that. The reason 0.99

00:37:09.620 they're naturally lumped together, though, is because all of it requires a rejection of

00:37:18.080 a traditional sexual ethic, a religious sexual ethic. And once you reject that, once you change

00:37:24.980 the sexual ethic from what it has always been, what is your body for? What is the purpose of our

00:37:29.920 sexuality? Are there bad things that we can do with our sexual organs? Once you lose that and you

00:37:35.880 reframe the moral question to, if it feels good, do it, then you've accepted the premise. When you

00:37:42.380 accept the idea that men and women are basically interchangeable, such that the union of two men

00:37:46.640 is basically the same as the union of a man and a woman, well, then you've accepted the premise that

00:37:51.240 will lead to transgenderism, which is that men and women are so similar that one can become the other 0.67

00:37:56.880 one. So that's why. How do we encourage Republicans? Well, we can tell them to be on guard about

00:38:00.640 language. We can try to gain power in the institutions to wield it in a way that

00:38:04.320 imposes our language, which is more in line with reality, onto the culture. But I don't think

00:38:11.220 we're going to do it by splitting hairs over the LGB and the T. Like it or not, they're lumped

00:38:16.280 together. Next question. Hey, Michael. I came for Ben and stayed for you and backstage episodes.

00:38:22.960 Oh, right. I'm a practicing Catholic who, like many other Catholics, struggles to reconcile

00:38:27.820 Catholic teachings with this fallen world. I find that when you know someone personally, 1.00

00:38:32.640 then your beliefs, while so strong, show real world consequence to someone you are friends with.

00:38:38.700 My example would be Dave Rubin, who I'm also a big fan of. While I agree with and understand why gay 1.00

00:38:44.140 marriage is wrong, how do you actively advocate against gay marriage when Dave Rubin is in a gay 1.00

00:38:49.700 marriage himself with children? If you are his friend and became a senator, for example, how can you

00:38:55.940 maintain a great relationship with him if he's aware that if you theoretically would have the

00:39:00.560 congressional vote that you would choose to vote to dissolve his marriage? How could he want a

00:39:05.460 friendship with you if you have that goal? Thanks for the show. I listen daily and it creates great

00:39:10.020 conversation and debate in my family and especially with my kids. Have a great day. Thank you very much.

00:39:15.900 That's a really good question. And I'll broaden it out a little bit. I've gotten all sorts of questions

00:39:20.100 about specific friends of mine. And I'll try to broaden it out because I think, you know, my friend,

00:39:24.140 as you point out, my friends are my friends. And so if I'm going to have a conversation

00:39:27.080 that involves some personal issue of theirs, I'll probably have it privately. But it's a great

00:39:32.920 observation because I'm from New York. I went to Yale and I lived in Los Angeles and worked in show

00:39:40.180 business. A disproportionate number of my friends are of the homosexual persuasion. Okay. I went both 1.00

00:39:48.560 places on the coast, a little light in the loafers, and Yale is the gayest university ever in all of 1.00

00:39:53.180 history. So yeah, I've got a lot of friends who are inclined that way. And how do I remain friends

00:39:58.720 with them? Well, I think it's because I'm not wishy-washy about what I think. I think if I had

00:40:07.620 an opinion and I said, well, marriage just intrinsically involves sexual difference and

00:40:11.340 that's just what marriage is. But then I went up to a gay identifying, any kind of identifying friend 0.98

00:40:18.080 of mine and said, well, actually though, but then I don't, I didn't exactly mean that. And then it

00:40:24.120 would seem that I am not holding a view that's grounded in reason, that I'm holding a view that's

00:40:28.500 grounded in nothing more but bigotry and prejudice. And then they might have a real cause to be upset

00:40:33.520 with me, but I'm not afraid to say it because it's just my view. And my friends respect my views

00:40:38.720 just as I respect that they have in good faith come to their own views. And so, you know, the notion

00:40:45.160 that if I were in public office and this issue were politically viable, that I would vote to

00:40:53.580 define marriage as what marriage really is. I don't think that would upset anybody. I've got friends

00:40:58.700 who are in so-called same-sex marriages and I like their partners and some of them are dear,

00:41:05.560 dear friends of mine. And I'm not saying I'm going to throw these people in the gulag, you know,

00:41:09.300 not suggesting anything that I think would be harmful to them. Of course not.

00:41:14.120 The law itself is an ordinance of reason for the common good by him who has care of the community

00:41:20.320 and promulgated. So any law that I would support, I would support on the basis that I believe

00:41:27.320 sincerely and I think with good reason that it is for the common good, not just for the greater good

00:41:32.060 and it's going to hurt some people, not in a utilitarian sense, but in the classical sense of

00:41:35.780 the common good, whereby it is the good of all of us and of the polity and of our individual good

00:41:42.640 as well. That there's no real distinction exactly there. So that's what I would say. I mean,

00:41:48.340 I'm sure I've got friends who disagree with me for all sorts of things and I disagree with them.

00:41:52.360 But if you love somebody, if you're pals with somebody, then you know that you're not coming

00:41:57.140 from a place of cruelty or not willing the good of the other person. If you're friends with somebody,

00:42:04.060 then you have love for that person. And love, as we've said many times on the show,

00:42:08.180 certainly a key Catholic understanding of love, is that it's willing the good of the other person

00:42:13.800 for their own sake. Next question.

00:42:17.160 Good morning, Michael. First off, I've been listening to your show for quite some time

00:42:21.580 and I really appreciate that you not only address the major issues facing our society,

00:42:26.940 but also address the spiritual warfare behind all of it. To my question, I'm curious about your take

00:42:32.920 on different Christian denominations. My family and I attend a church that would fall into the

00:42:39.340 non-denominational category. We believe in the Bible and that repentance and a relationship with

00:42:45.720 Jesus is the only way to salvation and eternal life. I know that you belong to the Catholic Church

00:42:51.200 and that you often refer to Catholic traditions on your show. Do you believe that Catholicism

00:42:57.640 is the only way to salvation or is it more of a difference of style and tradition? If so,

00:43:04.900 do you believe that all sects of Christianity lead to salvation or are there ones that get it

00:43:09.860 completely wrong? Again, thank you for your continued work to bringing truth to the world.

00:43:16.060 Really good question. I'm Catholic and so I believe that the Catholic Church possesses the

00:43:22.260 fullness of truth. I think it's the real church that Christ instituted and one of the evidences of

00:43:27.220 this, I take it on faith, but one of the evidences of this, according to the great writer Hilaire

00:43:31.460 Belloc, is that if the church were not divinely instituted, no other institution conducted with

00:43:39.220 such knavish imbecillity would have lasted a fortnight. So the problems and the scandals and the 0.85

00:43:43.640 corruption in a way are a kind of an evidence because nothing but divine grace could possibly have

00:43:48.760 allowed an institution so mismanaged to continue. You say you're non-denominational and I have many

00:43:56.680 friends who call themselves that. So many so that I would have to suggest that the N and the D are 1.00

00:44:04.320 capitalized, you know, the non-denominational denomination because it is a denomination

00:44:07.860 because people refer to it by that name. I've got family who were Baptists, you know, I've got a lot

00:44:14.320 of Protestants down the family tree. So are all people who say that they're Christian saved? Are

00:44:23.140 they Christian? Well, the Bible seems clear enough on this, which is Christ says, someday there will 0.69

00:44:31.960 be people who call me Lord, Lord, to whom I will say I do not know you. So I'm not saying that,

00:44:40.460 you know, you and your fellow ecclesial community, you know, you're all going to rot in hell. I'm not

00:44:45.020 saying anything like that. And I'm not saying that you don't have a sincere faith in Christ. And I'm

00:44:48.580 not saying that, you know, Christ has not bestowed his grace upon you or anything like that. But at

00:44:54.540 the very least, we would have to say that if you came out and you said, God forbid, you know, I believe

00:45:00.380 in Jesus. Well, what does that mean to you? Well, it means, you know, that I believe in

00:45:04.880 transgenderism and I believe in abortion. I think abortion is a really important thing. It's a 0.94

00:45:08.460 sacrament. And I believe in chopping off people's body parts. And I believe in axe murdering people

00:45:14.740 twice a month. That's my understanding of Christianity. What would you say? That's

00:45:17.660 crazy. That's not Christianity. What on earth are you talking about? That's so, but, but no, 0.92

00:45:21.320 I'm calling myself a Christian. Well, no. And there are certain Christian, so-called Christian 0.99

00:45:26.760 denominations, which deny important aspects of the faith. Would you call them Christian? Well, 0.66

00:45:31.780 no, it'd be hard to do that. The question that I would ask myself if I were shopping around

00:45:38.680 for different denominations and sects and things like that is, okay, I love Christ. I love the

00:45:43.640 Lord. I love God. I want to do his will. Is there a way that he wants me to worship him? Is there a way

00:45:50.960 that he wants me to have a relationship with him? Is there specificity? Is there detail to it? Does he

00:45:55.660 give clues of this in the Bible of ways that he wants us to pray, what things that he wants us to

00:46:01.840 believe, creeds that he wants us to hold? Does he give us clues in the early Christian tradition,

00:46:09.540 in the early church, in the later church? Is there some continuity there? The first part,

00:46:15.120 very important part, is do you love the Lord? Do you accept Christ as the Lord your God? Will you be

00:46:19.640 baptized? And then, even as you're baptized, okay, is there something else? Is it not so much how I want

00:46:26.580 to worship God, but how God wants me to worship him for my own good? You see that certainly in

00:46:32.560 the Old Testament? Very, very rigid descriptions by God of how he wants his chosen people to worship

00:46:37.380 him. And I think that remains true today. And so, this process of discernment of what the truth of

00:46:43.080 the matter is, it's not being nitpicky and finicky and exclusive or anything like that. It's just asking,

00:46:47.860 okay, I'm with you, Lord. I love you. What do you want from me? Okay, I've got so many more things to

00:46:53.760 get to, but Mr. Davies won't let me do it. I've got really good mailbag questions. We're going to

00:46:58.460 have to save them for next week. Or maybe, you know what, maybe I'll do them in the member room

00:47:01.960 segmentum on Monday, because I've missed you all. I've missed you so much. I'll be back from Hungary

00:47:06.740 very shortly. See some of you in Hungary at my speech later on today. In the meantime,

00:47:12.580 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show. See you Monday.

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The Michael Knowles Show - July 28, 2023

Ep. 1297 - New Alien Testimony Changes Everything

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