The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1298 - Kamala Harris Claims Ron DeSantis Praised Slavery

00:00:00.000 Kamala Harris traded her disingenuous cackle for a disingenuous shriek over the weekend 1.00

00:00:05.580 when she attacked Florida Governor Ron DeSantis over his state's new curriculum, 0.60

00:00:10.380 which she insists praises the benefits of slavery.

00:00:16.140 This is unnecessary to debate whether enslaved people benefited from slavery. Are you kidding me?

00:00:25.280 Are we supposed to debate that?

00:00:30.000 Let us not be distracted by what they're trying to do,

00:00:36.740 which is to create unnecessary debates to divide our country.

00:00:43.180 Now, of course, that is not what the curriculum states.

00:00:46.660 We've got the text that the New Florida Standards state, quote,

00:00:50.060 instructional materials shall include the vital contributions of African Americans

00:00:54.840 to build and strengthen American society

00:00:57.500 and celebrate the inspirational stories of African Americans who prospered,

00:01:02.020 even in the most difficult circumstances.

00:01:06.020 The supposedly controversial section that Kamala was referring to

00:01:09.840 simply acknowledges that, quote,

00:01:12.240 slaves developed skills which, in some instances,

00:01:16.420 could be applied for their personal benefit,

00:01:19.240 which is obviously true.

00:01:21.400 This is the thesis of Booker T. Washington's book, Up From Slavery.

00:01:25.620 This is the premise of much of Frederick Douglass's writing.

00:01:28.540 This is what was going through the mind of the black, 0.99

00:01:31.720 black historian, William B. Allen,

00:01:34.580 when he wrote the supposedly racist offensive standards.

00:01:37.800 What's more important than that dishonest purpose is the truth.

00:01:42.560 And this curriculum is devoted to telling the truth,

00:01:46.020 whereas Kamala Harris has retailed a lie.

00:01:49.380 Now, it may only have been a falsehood the first time she stated it,

00:01:53.200 but when you repeat a falsehood, it becomes a lie.

00:01:55.520 This curriculum is about is having people who live the experience,

00:02:00.440 who live the history, tell their stories.

00:02:03.520 And nothing is more important than that we never, ever erase the stories

00:02:09.700 that the people who live the stories tell.

00:02:12.240 No one has a right to interpret before first understanding the stories

00:02:16.440 as the people who live them understood them themselves.

00:02:20.080 The biggest problem with Kamala's attack is not the dishonesty.

00:02:24.460 That's par for the course.

00:02:25.700 The problem is the claim that she's attacking is true.

00:02:30.960 It's a deep and enduring truth.

00:02:32.900 Slaves benefited from enduring hardship, 1.00

00:02:35.680 just as everyone can benefit from enduring hardship.

00:02:39.440 And the fashionable insistence that suffering is always bad

00:02:42.780 is making us a nation that is weak, confused, and depressed

00:02:47.360 because we can't make sense of human nature

00:02:49.760 and the fact of a fallen world.

00:02:52.580 On that chipper note, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:02:54.440 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:03:02.900 Welcome back to the show.

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00:03:17.000 Republican Congress Lady Nancy Mace made a joke about fornicating 1.00

00:03:21.420 at the National Prayer Breakfast.

00:03:22.900 It's caused quite a stir, and most reactions I've seen to it are wrong.

00:03:27.320 So we'll get to that in just a little bit.

00:03:29.500 First, though, speaking of historical revision,

00:03:32.340 a new gay historical figure just dropped.

00:03:35.880 You know this happens every few years now.

00:03:39.360 The libs will take some well-known historical figure

00:03:42.480 and then just decide out of the blue that he's a gay guy or a lesbian

00:03:46.320 or some other kind of marginalized identity that we all know he isn't.

00:03:51.020 So the new historical figure that the libs are trying to rainbow wash,

00:03:58.460 they're trying to paint him lavender, is the poet Alfred Lord Tennyson.

00:04:02.740 And you might know Alfred Lord Tennyson, even if you're not a big poetry buff,

00:04:05.560 you might know him because one of his poems,

00:04:07.600 Crossing the Bar, is frequently read at funerals.

00:04:10.560 Sunset, an evening star, and one clear call for me,

00:04:13.020 and may there be no moaning of the bar when I put out to sea.

00:04:15.120 You may have heard that one.

00:04:16.780 Wonderful poet.

00:04:18.520 I've always really liked Tennyson.

00:04:19.960 And never suspected that he was a gay guy.

00:04:24.180 And the reason I never suspected that is that he was married for over 40 years

00:04:28.620 and had two children.

00:04:30.280 And another reason I never suspected that is that there's no evidence whatsoever

00:04:35.260 that he is a little light in the old loafers.

00:04:39.540 So where do they get this from?

00:04:43.840 This is the saddest part of the story for me.

00:04:45.860 This is the saddest part of the modern impulse to queer historical figures. 1.00

00:04:54.140 The evidence that this LGBT group, it's called the LGBT Heritage Trail in the UK,

00:04:59.860 the evidence that they say they have that Tennyson is a gay guy is that he had a friend.

00:05:08.220 Their evidence is that Tennyson had this friend, Arthur Henry Hallam,

00:05:13.940 and he wrote a very famous poem to him.

00:05:15.980 It's called In Memoriam A-H-H.

00:05:18.380 And it's where we get that line,

00:05:20.020 better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

00:05:26.120 Hallam,

00:05:26.520 there is no evidence whatsoever that Hallam had a romantic relationship with Tennyson

00:05:32.760 or that Tennyson desired a romantic relationship with Hallam or anything like that.

00:05:36.080 They were college buddies.

00:05:37.240 They were in a debating society together.

00:05:39.180 They were good friends.

00:05:40.260 They traveled together.

00:05:41.480 They corresponded quite a lot.

00:05:42.880 They obviously had a deep love,

00:05:45.180 the love of friendship for one another.

00:05:48.200 But not only did they not have any romantic love,

00:05:51.580 Hallam was engaged to Tennyson's sister.

00:05:53.840 So Hallam would have been his brother-in-law.

00:05:55.180 And the reason that I think that the libs,

00:06:02.220 maybe sincerely,

00:06:03.680 maybe earnestly believe that these older historical figures were gay

00:06:06.980 is because they don't understand friendship.

00:06:09.860 Because men are not really allowed to have friends anymore.

00:06:12.780 Modern culture is just shocked,

00:06:15.060 absolutely bewildered by the suggestion

00:06:17.820 that a man can have a deep friendship.

00:06:19.680 Because in as much as men are permitted to have friends in modern society,

00:06:23.520 the only kind of friends men are allowed to have

00:06:26.100 is the sort of go out and get hammered

00:06:29.900 or come over and watch the game kind of friend.

00:06:33.440 That's fine.

00:06:34.120 But the moment that a man has a friend

00:06:36.080 with whom he discusses things that really matter,

00:06:39.780 with whom he talks about eternal questions,

00:06:43.920 in whom he confides,

00:06:46.180 with whom he has an actual friendship,

00:06:48.380 you know,

00:06:48.600 in the old kind of Aristotelian sense of a deep friendship,

00:06:51.720 a friendship of truth and virtue,

00:06:53.440 then he's got to be a gay guy.

00:06:55.120 Because we just can't fathom that.

00:06:56.920 You know,

00:06:57.360 we're in a very lonely society,

00:06:59.260 in a very alienated society,

00:07:00.780 where self-reported rates of loneliness

00:07:02.860 and depression and alienation

00:07:04.340 have just skyrocketed in recent years.

00:07:06.760 This is one of the reasons why.

00:07:08.720 I'm not saying that no historical figures

00:07:10.560 were a little bit queer. 0.58

00:07:13.220 Someone like Walt Whitman

00:07:14.360 was probably a little light in the moccasins.

00:07:16.540 But when you go to someone like Tennyson

00:07:18.560 and there's just no evidence of it whatsoever,

00:07:21.560 other than the fact that he had a friend,

00:07:24.800 that is an indictment of our society.

00:07:27.900 And I think it lies at the heart

00:07:29.380 of a lot of the sexual confusion

00:07:31.200 and a lot of the political dysfunction.

00:07:33.760 The fact that people don't have true friends anymore.

00:07:37.240 We have friends of convenience.

00:07:38.520 We have friends of work,

00:07:40.680 friends by accident.

00:07:41.700 You know,

00:07:41.800 you work with someone

00:07:42.560 and maybe you go get a drink with them afterward.

00:07:44.540 You have friends of shared interests,

00:07:47.520 like you both like Spider-Man or something,

00:07:49.440 so you connect over that.

00:07:50.920 But proper friendship,

00:07:53.000 you know,

00:07:53.180 friendship of the good.

00:07:55.900 Hard to find,

00:07:56.860 especially in a society

00:07:57.660 that's so relativistic and liberal

00:07:59.100 that we deny the very existence of the good.

00:08:01.620 And so now we look back

00:08:02.540 and we take really good,

00:08:03.740 strong,

00:08:04.580 traditional conservative poets

00:08:05.640 and say that they were

00:08:07.120 a little bit eccentric.

00:08:10.580 I don't think so.

00:08:11.460 I don't think so, man.

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00:09:33.140 Speaking of sexual confusion,

00:09:36.700 Nancy Mace,

00:09:37.580 Republican Congress lady.

00:09:39.540 She's a liberal Republican,

00:09:41.560 but I kind of like her.

00:09:44.480 She's been on the right side 0.51

00:09:46.520 of at least a handful of issues,

00:09:47.760 and she's clearly a little bit lost

00:09:51.680 and trying to figure things out,

00:09:53.220 and that's true of a lot of people

00:09:54.420 in modern culture.

00:09:55.600 Well, Nancy Mace really stepped in it 1.00

00:09:57.060 because she showed up 0.85

00:09:57.700 to the National Prayer Breakfast

00:09:59.100 and decided to open her remarks

00:10:01.160 with a joke about how she almost fornicated 0.99

00:10:03.540 before showing up to the event.

00:10:06.000 Another year,

00:10:07.140 another standing room only event,

00:10:09.600 and when I woke up this morning at 7,

00:10:12.020 I was getting picked up at 7.45.

00:10:14.360 Patrick, my fiance,

00:10:15.780 tried to pull me by my waist

00:10:17.540 over this morning in bed,

00:10:19.040 and I was like,

00:10:19.400 no, baby,

00:10:19.720 we don't got time for that this morning.

00:10:21.980 I got to get to the prayer breakfast,

00:10:23.840 and I got to be on time,

00:10:25.820 and a little TMI,

00:10:27.620 but he can wait.

00:10:31.320 I'll see him later tonight,

00:10:32.900 but I was here early today.

00:10:37.040 It's just so cringe,

00:10:39.340 and this is the defining feature

00:10:43.120 of Nancy Mace's political persona,

00:10:45.280 and it's very sad,

00:10:49.000 and she should try to nip it in the bud,

00:10:50.460 and a lot of other conservatives

00:10:51.960 who are tempted this way

00:10:54.640 should nip it in the bud, too.

00:10:56.240 It's not the sex stuff.

00:10:57.660 It's that she always wants to be

00:11:00.060 the cool conservative.

00:11:02.040 She's like the mom on Mean Girls. 0.99

00:11:03.620 I'm not a regular mom.

00:11:04.940 I'm a cool mom.

00:11:06.360 I'm not a regular conservative.

00:11:08.520 I'm a cool conservative.

00:11:10.060 I'm not a regular Christian.

00:11:11.260 You know, I'm a cool Christian.

00:11:12.960 I almost fornicated with a man 0.77

00:11:15.160 who's not my husband this morning,

00:11:16.340 but don't worry.

00:11:16.800 I'm going to do it later tonight.

00:11:18.380 Anyway, let's talk about God and prayer.

00:11:20.800 Ah, man.

00:11:21.760 Good grief, lady. 1.00

00:11:23.720 Just read the room.

00:11:25.340 Read the room,

00:11:26.120 and recognize that there are

00:11:28.480 more important things in life

00:11:29.720 than being considered cool

00:11:31.080 by the liberals.

00:11:32.200 Who hate you?

00:11:33.720 Who hate you?

00:11:34.360 No matter how irreverent you are,

00:11:37.900 no matter how much you try

00:11:39.400 to distinguish yourself

00:11:40.260 from your political party

00:11:41.340 and the conservatives

00:11:42.100 and your supporters,

00:11:43.100 they will never like you.

00:11:45.420 You're a Republican, okay?

00:11:48.020 Your best option to be cool

00:11:50.900 is to reject the standards of coolness

00:11:53.120 of the liberal culture,

00:11:55.200 which way lies madness

00:11:57.600 and which will always hate you,

00:11:59.380 and to be a conservative.

00:12:01.820 She says she's a Christian.

00:12:02.900 But here's how she says it.

00:12:05.620 She says,

00:12:06.360 when she was defending these remarks,

00:12:07.880 she said,

00:12:09.020 I go to church

00:12:09.520 because I'm a sinner,

00:12:10.320 not a saint.

00:12:11.340 Glad those in attendance,

00:12:12.460 including Senator Tim Scott

00:12:13.520 and my pastor,

00:12:14.500 her pastor was in attendance.

00:12:16.460 How disgraceful for him

00:12:17.600 that she would do this.

00:12:19.460 Took this joke in stride.

00:12:20.780 But what,

00:12:21.220 was it a joke?

00:12:22.380 It was a joke

00:12:23.060 in that she intended

00:12:23.680 for it to be funny,

00:12:24.440 but I don't think she's joking

00:12:25.400 that she sleeps with her fiance.

00:12:27.780 I think that part,

00:12:29.080 maybe she was joking about that

00:12:30.200 and it was just a whole bit,

00:12:31.220 but I don't think it is,

00:12:32.060 judging by her other comments.

00:12:33.600 It was Pastor Greg,

00:12:34.620 of course his name is Pastor Greg.

00:12:36.120 Pastor Greg and I

00:12:37.040 will have extra to talk about

00:12:38.860 on Sunday.

00:12:39.580 Ha, ha, ha.

00:12:40.140 And there's a little

00:12:40.540 laughing face emoji.

00:12:42.340 Yes, of course,

00:12:43.140 we go to church

00:12:43.960 because we are sinners

00:12:45.760 in this fallen world.

00:12:47.280 We're subject to concupiscence

00:12:49.880 and sin and death

00:12:51.300 pervade the world.

00:12:52.620 And, you know,

00:12:53.380 it's a tough go of it here

00:12:54.560 and it's a pilgrimage

00:12:55.220 and we pray for grace,

00:12:56.340 of course.

00:12:57.060 There but for the grace of God

00:12:57.980 go I.

00:12:58.620 All men sin 1.00

00:12:59.860 and fall short

00:13:00.260 of the glory of God.

00:13:02.340 You don't need to brag about it

00:13:04.320 because that will,

00:13:07.820 one,

00:13:08.540 suggest that you're not

00:13:09.600 really sorry for your sins.

00:13:11.940 You haven't really repented.

00:13:13.860 You're just brazenly

00:13:15.260 continuing in a state

00:13:17.440 of grave mortal sin,

00:13:18.460 which again,

00:13:19.620 describes a lot of the world.

00:13:21.000 The difference is

00:13:21.600 you're at least

00:13:23.380 putatively a Christian

00:13:24.640 at a Christian prayer breakfast

00:13:26.960 and then furthermore,

00:13:30.020 you're incurring

00:13:30.600 the sin of scandal

00:13:31.340 because you're leading

00:13:32.020 others astray

00:13:32.560 by saying this is

00:13:33.140 what Christians do. 0.95

00:13:34.360 And you're implicating

00:13:35.600 your pastor in that sin also.

00:13:37.640 I recognize

00:13:38.640 it's a very

00:13:39.580 messed up culture

00:13:41.800 and catechesis

00:13:42.700 is really weak these days

00:13:43.560 and people don't really know

00:13:44.620 how they're supposed to behave.

00:13:45.420 I have a great deal of

00:13:46.420 sympathy and empathy

00:13:47.600 even for all of that.

00:13:49.240 But this is a real indictment

00:13:51.340 of this lady's pastor,

00:13:53.300 of whatever ecclesial community

00:13:55.660 Pastor Greg

00:13:56.500 seems to be leading.

00:13:57.620 It doesn't seem to be

00:13:58.300 forming souls all that well

00:13:59.600 if these are the kind of jokes

00:14:00.840 that his flock make 0.97

00:14:01.860 at national prayer breakfasts.

00:14:05.780 And it raises the question,

00:14:06.940 why was she invited to speak?

00:14:08.520 What,

00:14:09.820 ah man,

00:14:10.500 what are these people going after?

00:14:11.540 It's the conservatives

00:14:12.260 and the nominal Christians

00:14:14.620 in our culture.

00:14:15.440 What are they going after?

00:14:16.280 Do they want to

00:14:18.960 establish a big tent

00:14:21.980 and accommodate themselves

00:14:23.340 to the way of the world

00:14:24.540 and the way of the decadent,

00:14:26.520 degraded liberal culture

00:14:27.800 to try to win some elections

00:14:30.120 or fill up the pews

00:14:31.240 or something like that?

00:14:32.920 Or,

00:14:33.720 do they want to

00:14:34.880 speak the truth?

00:14:36.260 And,

00:14:36.880 speak the truth

00:14:38.580 come what may

00:14:39.420 because to,

00:14:41.260 to win

00:14:42.480 some kind of nominal victory

00:14:44.760 by adopting

00:14:46.300 all of your opponent's

00:14:47.680 beliefs and premises

00:14:48.600 and behaviors

00:14:49.300 is no victory at all.

00:14:50.620 It's a Pyrrhic victory.

00:14:51.840 It's a concession.

00:14:52.860 It's a surrender.

00:14:53.980 It's a loss.

00:14:55.460 It's like that good old line

00:14:56.780 which I'll attribute

00:14:57.920 to Fulton Sheen.

00:14:58.600 A few different people

00:14:59.360 lay claim to this line.

00:15:01.940 If you marry yourself

00:15:03.020 to the spirit of the age,

00:15:03.980 you'll find yourself

00:15:04.700 a widow in the next.

00:15:07.240 If you,

00:15:07.580 if you wedge yourself

00:15:09.000 to the spirit of liberalism

00:15:10.160 as a conservative,

00:15:10.920 then you haven't won anything.

00:15:11.960 You're just,

00:15:12.360 you're just,

00:15:12.860 you're a big lip.

00:15:13.860 And this is of course

00:15:14.800 especially true in the case

00:15:15.700 if you're a Christian

00:15:16.360 and you say,

00:15:17.060 I'm a Christian

00:15:17.480 but I just do all the things

00:15:18.540 that the world tell me to do

00:15:19.460 and I just try to seem cool

00:15:21.240 by the standards

00:15:21.860 of this fallen world

00:15:22.680 which is under the rule

00:15:23.960 of the devil himself,

00:15:25.800 then that's not a victory, man.

00:15:27.480 That's a loss.

00:15:28.360 Then what does it even mean

00:15:29.960 to say you're a Christian?

00:15:31.320 You know,

00:15:31.440 I was in Hungary last week

00:15:32.500 and I'll publish the text

00:15:34.520 of my speech

00:15:35.340 that I gave

00:15:35.980 at the big political conference there.

00:15:38.720 I'll publish it on Daily Wire

00:15:39.960 and I think there's going to be

00:15:40.880 a video that goes up

00:15:41.860 soon enough.

00:15:43.180 But the topic of my speech

00:15:44.960 was how salvation hinges

00:15:47.440 on the flesh

00:15:48.180 which is a line from Tertullian,

00:15:50.140 the early Christian writer,

00:15:51.660 that the flesh itself

00:15:52.800 is the hinge of salvation.

00:15:54.140 In modernity,

00:15:55.080 we like to think that

00:15:56.220 my faith is just something

00:15:58.740 that lives in my head.

00:15:59.900 You know,

00:16:00.160 look,

00:16:00.380 maybe I sin all the time

00:16:02.080 and I lead others into sin

00:16:03.360 and I laugh about it

00:16:04.200 and I brag about it

00:16:04.900 and I don't do anything

00:16:05.400 to try to stop it.

00:16:06.300 But hey,

00:16:06.960 if I think in my head

00:16:08.260 that I'm a Christian,

00:16:08.940 then I'm a Christian.

00:16:10.840 Even in the political realm.

00:16:12.540 I can move to a city,

00:16:14.640 I cannot get married,

00:16:15.640 I cannot have kids,

00:16:16.500 I cannot take virtue seriously,

00:16:17.720 I cannot go to church,

00:16:18.800 I cannot do anything

00:16:20.120 other than go to brunch

00:16:21.920 and live according

00:16:23.560 to the modern liberal culture.

00:16:24.720 But if I tell myself

00:16:25.740 I'm a conservative,

00:16:26.980 then I'm a conservative.

00:16:27.860 No, man,

00:16:28.460 you've got to do it.

00:16:29.340 We live in time and space.

00:16:31.100 Especially when we're

00:16:31.740 talking about Christianity,

00:16:32.460 we're talking about a religion

00:16:33.180 that views the incarnation

00:16:35.340 and the crucifixion

00:16:36.420 and the resurrection

00:16:36.820 as the very pivot

00:16:37.840 and meaning of history.

00:16:39.180 It's the most historically

00:16:40.740 focused religion

00:16:41.740 that there is,

00:16:42.840 meaning time and space

00:16:44.040 and actions of real men

00:16:45.200 and flesh and blood

00:16:45.940 in places.

00:16:47.020 Hungary gets this,

00:16:48.160 which is why Hungary

00:16:49.180 has reordered its law

00:16:50.620 and its culture

00:16:51.280 to better accommodate

00:16:53.980 people who are trying

00:16:55.200 to pursue goodness

00:16:56.340 and truth and beauty.

00:16:57.320 You see it in the beauty

00:16:57.940 of the buildings

00:16:58.540 that the government

00:16:59.580 is actively trying to restore.

00:17:01.760 You see this in the truth

00:17:03.660 of the eternal principles

00:17:04.900 that the government

00:17:05.360 is enshrining

00:17:06.080 in its constitution

00:17:07.000 and its laws.

00:17:08.060 And you see this

00:17:09.500 in the clear moral vision

00:17:12.220 that the Hungarian government

00:17:13.680 has laid out,

00:17:14.520 which is nothing new.

00:17:15.900 It's just the traditional

00:17:16.640 moral vision

00:17:17.280 of our Christian civilization,

00:17:18.880 which the liberal societies

00:17:21.260 either ignore

00:17:22.280 or invert

00:17:23.120 and say that good is evil

00:17:24.420 and evil is good.

00:17:27.360 You've got to do stuff.

00:17:29.060 And let's say that Nancy Mace

00:17:30.700 keeps sinning or whatever.

00:17:31.920 We all sin at different times,

00:17:33.600 but we should be ashamed of that.

00:17:36.020 We should not brag

00:17:36.680 about it in public.

00:17:37.500 We should go seek absolution

00:17:39.000 and forgiveness.

00:17:40.840 Speaking of love,

00:17:42.620 marriage,

00:17:43.020 and the baby carriage,

00:17:44.640 some good news.

00:17:46.640 Joe Biden is finally acknowledging

00:17:48.460 his granddaughter.

00:17:51.360 You know,

00:17:51.760 I've harangued him on this show

00:17:53.340 for a long time

00:17:54.620 because I say

00:17:55.780 it's the worst thing

00:17:57.220 that I could say

00:17:58.300 about Joe Biden.

00:17:59.060 Forget about all the corruption

00:18:00.000 and the scandals

00:18:00.660 and taking money

00:18:01.240 from the Ukrainians

00:18:02.160 and the lies

00:18:03.020 and all the rest of it.

00:18:05.220 The meanest thing

00:18:06.420 that I've ever seen him do

00:18:07.440 is not acknowledge

00:18:09.140 his sweet little

00:18:09.740 four-year-old granddaughter

00:18:10.620 and intentionally

00:18:12.420 not acknowledge her.

00:18:13.900 Omit her stocking

00:18:14.820 from the White House

00:18:15.320 Christmas display.

00:18:16.980 Constantly say,

00:18:18.080 I only have six grandchildren,

00:18:19.800 not seven.

00:18:21.240 Finally, though,

00:18:23.120 Biden acknowledges her.

00:18:25.220 Why is he acknowledging her?

00:18:27.600 In a statement

00:18:28.540 to People magazine,

00:18:30.720 Biden says,

00:18:32.340 our son Hunter

00:18:33.220 and Navy's mother, 1.00

00:18:34.580 London,

00:18:35.280 are working together

00:18:36.140 to foster a relationship

00:18:37.340 that is in the best interests

00:18:38.840 of their daughter,

00:18:40.040 preserving their privacy

00:18:40.900 as much as possible

00:18:41.680 going forward.

00:18:42.100 First of all,

00:18:42.480 that's not true.

00:18:43.400 Hunter refuses to even

00:18:44.360 speak to this daughter.

00:18:45.500 Hunter just went to court

00:18:46.280 to try to stop paying

00:18:47.140 the mother child support.

00:18:48.540 Hunter,

00:18:49.260 or to greatly reduce

00:18:50.180 the child support

00:18:50.700 that he was paying.

00:18:51.820 Hunter also just sued

00:18:53.520 to stop the daughter 0.99

00:18:55.180 from having his last name.

00:18:57.280 In no way,

00:18:58.160 there is zero evidence

00:18:59.260 that Hunter Biden

00:19:00.820 is trying to establish

00:19:01.780 a relationship

00:19:02.520 in the best interests

00:19:03.260 of the daughter.

00:19:03.820 Hunter is trying to

00:19:04.680 completely screw

00:19:05.540 his daughter over

00:19:06.280 and mess her up 1.00

00:19:08.180 and traumatize her

00:19:08.820 in every way possible.

00:19:09.600 That's all the evidence

00:19:10.360 that we have.

00:19:11.240 And Joe Biden's complicit

00:19:12.400 in that because

00:19:13.220 it's not like some

00:19:14.140 private little spat 0.90

00:19:15.600 between a man

00:19:17.180 and his baby mama

00:19:18.360 and a child born

00:19:20.040 out of wedlock

00:19:20.760 and you say,

00:19:21.200 well, it's private life.

00:19:22.320 We're talking about

00:19:23.220 the granddaughter

00:19:23.680 of the president

00:19:24.240 of the United States.

00:19:24.960 Whether they want to

00:19:26.400 or not,

00:19:26.840 this is a public matter

00:19:29.200 that they have to address.

00:19:30.480 The little girl

00:19:30.960 is going to know

00:19:31.480 that her granddaddy

00:19:33.480 is the president

00:19:34.840 of the United States

00:19:35.460 and it's going

00:19:36.240 to traumatize her

00:19:37.320 if her granddaddy

00:19:38.700 is so ashamed of her

00:19:39.680 that he won't

00:19:40.220 acknowledge her existence.

00:19:41.420 And he's continued

00:19:42.780 that way for four years now.

00:19:45.160 The girl's almost

00:19:45.720 four years old.

00:19:46.800 So anyway,

00:19:47.340 now he finally says,

00:19:48.800 okay, I'm going to

00:19:49.140 acknowledge her.

00:19:49.820 Good on him.

00:19:50.540 Good on him.

00:19:51.080 Except he was only

00:19:51.780 bullied into it

00:19:52.560 by a liberal columnist

00:19:53.760 at the New York Times.

00:19:54.980 Maureen Dowd

00:19:55.800 wrote this column

00:19:56.580 that said

00:19:57.100 the president's

00:19:57.580 cold shoulder

00:19:58.120 and heart

00:19:58.660 is counter to

00:19:59.340 every message

00:19:59.860 he's sent for decades

00:20:00.840 and it's out of sync

00:20:01.880 with the America

00:20:02.460 he wants to continue

00:20:03.440 to lead.

00:20:04.300 Very true.

00:20:05.140 So he finally got

00:20:05.860 bullied into it

00:20:06.500 because as we've seen

00:20:07.420 in some other

00:20:07.880 campaign leaks,

00:20:08.740 this is becoming

00:20:09.340 a big political

00:20:10.020 liability for him.

00:20:10.940 And so he dumps

00:20:11.880 this news

00:20:12.300 on a Friday afternoon

00:20:13.400 via written statement.

00:20:15.020 I would not hold

00:20:16.160 my breath about him

00:20:17.020 keeping up his promise.

00:20:18.780 He's a dirty,

00:20:20.040 rotten liar. 0.82

00:20:20.700 That's been for his

00:20:21.580 whole political career.

00:20:22.640 And he somehow

00:20:23.220 made a bad situation,

00:20:24.340 even worse,

00:20:25.640 in the cynical way

00:20:26.900 that he's tried

00:20:27.640 to address

00:20:28.220 a basic aspect

00:20:31.120 of being

00:20:32.360 a decent human being.

00:20:34.660 Classic Joe Biden.

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00:21:46.880 Speaking of the president,

00:21:50.480 Joe Biden,

00:21:51.880 there's a new poll out

00:21:52.680 from Monmouth.

00:21:53.420 Almost half of Republicans

00:21:54.700 think that Donald Trump

00:21:56.060 is the strongest candidate

00:21:57.520 to take on Joe Biden.

00:22:00.180 That does not mean

00:22:01.440 that Trump is doing

00:22:02.440 really, really well

00:22:03.140 in the polls,

00:22:03.720 though he obviously is.

00:22:04.720 This is a different question.

00:22:05.760 Almost half of Republicans

00:22:09.380 think that Trump

00:22:10.120 is the strongest candidate

00:22:11.820 to take on Biden.

00:22:13.380 The argument thus far

00:22:15.020 for a DeSantis

00:22:16.120 or a Nikki Haley

00:22:16.960 or a Tim Scott

00:22:17.680 or a Mike Pence

00:22:18.340 or a Vivek Ramaswamy even

00:22:19.580 is, well, look,

00:22:22.420 the base likes Trump,

00:22:23.780 but he can't win the general.

00:22:26.300 Everyone knows

00:22:27.080 he can't win the general,

00:22:28.660 but unfortunately,

00:22:30.460 the way the primary process

00:22:31.520 is set up,

00:22:32.080 the far-right candidate

00:22:33.960 sometimes can win

00:22:35.260 the primary

00:22:35.860 and then will lose

00:22:37.580 the general

00:22:38.040 because a more moderate

00:22:39.620 candidate would do better

00:22:40.480 in the general.

00:22:41.020 Now, we covered

00:22:41.540 on the last show

00:22:42.280 moderate candidates

00:22:45.260 as the GOP nominee

00:22:46.980 have a much worse

00:22:48.800 track record

00:22:49.540 than the conservative

00:22:51.300 GOP nominees

00:22:52.740 for president.

00:22:53.840 Much worse.

00:22:54.680 Go back to the last show.

00:22:55.540 I won't go through

00:22:56.380 the litany again,

00:22:57.220 but going back

00:22:57.940 to Eisenhower,

00:22:59.320 after Eisenhower,

00:23:00.360 you see a much

00:23:01.800 stronger showing

00:23:02.660 from the conservative

00:23:03.560 nominees than from

00:23:04.620 the John McCain's

00:23:05.380 and the Mitt Romney's.

00:23:06.900 But furthermore,

00:23:08.660 this is now

00:23:09.420 another knock

00:23:10.820 on the DeSantis campaign

00:23:11.940 because the DeSantis campaign

00:23:12.840 can at least say,

00:23:13.480 look, maybe people

00:23:14.700 don't feel as passionately

00:23:15.780 about me

00:23:16.400 as they do about

00:23:17.420 Donald Trump,

00:23:18.080 but everyone knows

00:23:19.020 I'm more likely

00:23:19.840 to beat Joe Biden

00:23:20.640 than Trump is.

00:23:21.660 A poll like this

00:23:22.460 says, no,

00:23:23.320 the DeSantis campaign

00:23:24.480 has not convinced

00:23:25.700 Republicans of that.

00:23:28.360 So you got 45%

00:23:29.480 of GOP voters

00:23:30.280 view Trump

00:23:31.040 as definitely

00:23:31.820 the best candidate

00:23:32.680 to beat Biden.

00:23:34.020 In addition,

00:23:34.660 24% on top of that

00:23:36.640 say he is probably

00:23:37.800 the strongest candidate

00:23:38.840 to defeat,

00:23:40.440 to face Biden.

00:23:41.280 So this is

00:23:41.740 a huge number.

00:23:44.060 Only 13%

00:23:45.360 of Republicans

00:23:45.880 said definitely

00:23:46.760 another candidate

00:23:47.520 and only 18%

00:23:48.640 said another candidate

00:23:49.340 would probably

00:23:50.040 be stronger than Trump.

00:23:52.280 So you add

00:23:52.640 those numbers up,

00:23:53.520 all of a sudden

00:23:54.180 you're at 69%

00:23:56.640 say Trump is

00:23:57.400 definitely

00:23:58.200 or probably

00:23:58.720 the strongest candidate

00:23:59.700 and you get down here

00:24:01.180 to 31%

00:24:02.380 say that some

00:24:03.840 other candidate

00:24:04.520 is definitely

00:24:05.580 or probably

00:24:06.020 the strongest.

00:24:06.500 It's

00:24:06.880 something that

00:24:09.340 the talking class,

00:24:10.740 the punditariat,

00:24:11.580 the GOP establishment,

00:24:12.680 but even

00:24:13.020 the conservative

00:24:14.100 establishment,

00:24:15.300 which very often

00:24:16.220 lives in Washington,

00:24:17.220 D.C.

00:24:17.540 or New York

00:24:18.200 or even Los Angeles

00:24:19.640 and very often

00:24:20.680 occupy elite circles,

00:24:23.880 just the nature

00:24:24.840 of the business.

00:24:26.660 They don't seem

00:24:27.700 to recognize

00:24:28.260 very often

00:24:28.900 Trump changes

00:24:30.460 the calculus.

00:24:31.780 It's not just

00:24:32.540 a matter of

00:24:33.080 policy positions.

00:24:34.560 It's not just

00:24:35.160 a matter of

00:24:35.820 going to

00:24:36.780 Ballotopedia

00:24:37.520 and seeing

00:24:38.100 where the candidates

00:24:38.700 stand on the issues.

00:24:39.660 He's just

00:24:40.180 a different

00:24:40.840 kind of animal.

00:24:43.200 He talks

00:24:43.760 different,

00:24:44.160 he walks

00:24:44.560 different,

00:24:44.960 he's got a

00:24:45.340 different background

00:24:45.960 and he appeals

00:24:46.500 to different people

00:24:47.140 and he turns

00:24:48.720 off certain

00:24:49.660 voters

00:24:50.100 who the

00:24:51.360 more

00:24:52.360 clubbable

00:24:53.360 kind of

00:24:53.720 Republicans

00:24:54.100 sometimes

00:24:55.280 can impress,

00:24:56.720 but he also

00:24:57.620 attracts

00:24:58.380 voters

00:24:59.500 that the

00:25:01.080 more clubbable

00:25:01.580 Republicans

00:25:02.140 have never

00:25:03.680 been able

00:25:04.020 to impress

00:25:04.380 or haven't

00:25:04.740 been able

00:25:05.000 to impress

00:25:05.420 since Ronald

00:25:06.720 Reagan.

00:25:07.700 So what does

00:25:08.340 this mean

00:25:08.580 for the rest

00:25:08.960 of the field?

00:25:09.560 Well,

00:25:09.700 the rest

00:25:09.900 of the field

00:25:10.160 is going

00:25:10.320 to keep

00:25:10.500 on fighting

00:25:10.860 including

00:25:11.260 the number

00:25:12.280 two guy

00:25:12.620 right now,

00:25:13.040 Ron DeSantis,

00:25:13.540 who just

00:25:13.960 came out

00:25:14.540 to attack

00:25:15.700 the clubbable

00:25:16.960 Republicans.

00:25:18.220 If you

00:25:18.820 can't stand

00:25:19.560 up for the

00:25:20.380 protection of

00:25:21.080 children,

00:25:21.680 then what good

00:25:22.300 are you as

00:25:22.800 a governor?

00:25:23.300 I mean,

00:25:23.560 honestly,

00:25:24.100 this is just

00:25:25.280 nonsense.

00:25:30.460 These are

00:25:30.900 like these

00:25:31.400 chamber of

00:25:31.980 commerce

00:25:32.380 Republicans,

00:25:33.640 you know,

00:25:33.980 whatever the

00:25:34.600 corporations

00:25:35.200 want,

00:25:35.860 they bow

00:25:36.600 down to,

00:25:37.480 and that

00:25:37.980 doesn't work

00:25:38.820 in a free

00:25:39.740 society.

00:25:40.380 It doesn't

00:25:41.280 work to have

00:25:41.940 a just

00:25:42.340 society,

00:25:42.960 because corporate

00:25:43.980 America,

00:25:44.600 unfortunately,

00:25:45.440 has become

00:25:45.960 polluted with

00:25:47.220 ideology,

00:25:48.280 and they're

00:25:48.760 pursuing agendas,

00:25:50.100 and the

00:25:50.520 sexualization of

00:25:51.560 children is

00:25:52.260 wrong.

00:25:53.260 And we

00:25:53.640 are going

00:25:53.900 to do

00:25:54.140 battle with

00:25:54.760 anybody that's

00:25:55.440 seeking to

00:25:55.880 rob our

00:25:56.260 children of

00:25:57.060 their

00:25:57.220 innocence.

00:25:58.140 Great line.

00:25:59.260 I love it.

00:25:59.880 I love that

00:26:00.540 DeSantis is

00:26:01.220 going after the

00:26:01.980 chamber of

00:26:02.440 commerce

00:26:02.940 Republicans.

00:26:04.260 It's a

00:26:04.940 reminder that

00:26:05.580 Ron DeSantis,

00:26:07.120 even though now

00:26:07.960 because he's

00:26:08.620 running against

00:26:09.260 Trump,

00:26:10.000 he is attracting

00:26:11.060 a number of

00:26:11.620 establishment

00:26:12.100 people to

00:26:12.800 support him.

00:26:13.440 Ron DeSantis

00:26:16.060 in his

00:26:17.460 political

00:26:18.100 outlook and

00:26:18.800 promises and

00:26:19.500 campaign platform

00:26:20.300 is much

00:26:21.920 closer to

00:26:22.580 Donald Trump

00:26:23.240 than he is

00:26:24.820 to Mitt

00:26:25.940 Romney or

00:26:26.960 John McCain

00:26:27.700 or the

00:26:28.520 Bushes or

00:26:30.300 maybe even

00:26:31.060 Ronald Reagan.

00:26:34.860 Ron DeSantis

00:26:35.860 is running a

00:26:37.720 populist,

00:26:38.620 anti-corporate,

00:26:39.500 anti-big

00:26:39.960 business campaign.

00:26:42.040 This means

00:26:43.100 that all of

00:26:44.900 the top

00:26:45.320 GOP candidates

00:26:46.240 right now

00:26:46.800 are running

00:26:47.820 against the

00:26:48.760 chamber of

00:26:49.200 commerce.

00:26:51.020 A lot of

00:26:51.900 the GOP

00:26:52.260 candidates are

00:26:52.920 running

00:26:53.380 while

00:26:56.080 placating the

00:26:57.320 chamber of

00:26:57.660 commerce.

00:26:58.340 Mike Pence

00:26:59.140 most clearly

00:26:59.900 said,

00:27:00.300 well look,

00:27:00.580 we support

00:27:01.240 business.

00:27:01.700 We don't

00:27:01.840 want to be

00:27:02.080 against

00:27:02.300 business

00:27:02.620 when he

00:27:02.860 was attacking

00:27:03.340 Ron DeSantis.

00:27:04.640 But Mike

00:27:05.060 Pence and

00:27:06.180 basically all

00:27:07.540 of the

00:27:07.840 candidates below

00:27:09.000 Mike Pence in

00:27:09.640 the polls,

00:27:10.180 they're all

00:27:10.800 running as

00:27:11.260 the kind

00:27:11.520 of pro

00:27:11.860 business,

00:27:12.420 pro chamber,

00:27:13.440 typical country

00:27:14.360 club GOP that

00:27:15.040 you've seen.

00:27:16.240 The top three

00:27:17.140 candidates right

00:27:17.740 now,

00:27:18.480 Trump,

00:27:19.340 DeSantis,

00:27:20.000 and Vivek

00:27:20.380 Ramaswamy are 1.00

00:27:21.460 all actively,

00:27:23.440 explicitly running

00:27:24.400 against the

00:27:25.820 chamber of

00:27:26.160 commerce and

00:27:26.660 big business.

00:27:27.280 That is a

00:27:27.740 major shift in

00:27:28.740 the GOP in

00:27:29.560 my lifetime and

00:27:30.560 that's a shift

00:27:31.140 for the better

00:27:32.040 because we're

00:27:33.360 recognizing that

00:27:34.140 there's more to

00:27:35.380 life than just

00:27:36.160 ticking up the

00:27:36.680 GDP numbers and

00:27:37.720 a strong economy

00:27:38.440 is good but a

00:27:39.760 strong economy is

00:27:40.400 not the be-all

00:27:40.900 and end-all because

00:27:41.540 if you make that

00:27:42.120 the absolute end

00:27:43.000 of politics as

00:27:44.300 many in the

00:27:45.280 establishment and

00:27:46.100 libertarian camp

00:27:46.860 had done for

00:27:48.120 the 90s and

00:27:49.000 the 2000s and

00:27:49.880 into the 20-teens

00:27:50.700 then we're no

00:27:51.820 different than the

00:27:52.440 mammon-worshipping 1.00

00:27:53.220 materialists that we

00:27:54.300 mock on the left and

00:27:55.240 that we're fighting

00:27:55.740 against.

00:27:56.740 You want a good

00:27:58.740 economy, that's a

00:27:59.880 very valuable thing

00:28:00.920 in society but you

00:28:01.600 don't want to put

00:28:02.820 the cart before the

00:28:03.460 horse.

00:28:04.860 You want the good

00:28:05.660 economy in service

00:28:06.820 of a good country and

00:28:08.140 if the corporations

00:28:08.840 are undermining the

00:28:11.160 values and the

00:28:12.060 behaviors and the

00:28:12.700 traditions and the

00:28:13.420 virtues of your

00:28:13.920 country, well then

00:28:14.880 they need to be

00:28:15.460 brought into line.

00:28:17.140 We need to

00:28:17.520 recognize that the

00:28:18.580 market exists for us

00:28:19.560 to have a good

00:28:19.900 society.

00:28:20.700 Our society does not

00:28:21.740 exist to serve the

00:28:23.160 market.

00:28:23.880 Now what about that

00:28:24.460 third candidate,

00:28:25.120 Vivek Ramaswamy?

00:28:26.200 Vivek is a little

00:28:27.020 different from Trump

00:28:28.580 and DeSantis in that

00:28:30.280 Vivek is trying to

00:28:31.600 cut a middle ground

00:28:32.780 between the new

00:28:35.100 more nationalist,

00:28:37.480 more populist,

00:28:39.020 anti-corporate

00:28:40.220 spirit of the GOP.

00:28:44.380 Obviously Vivek wrote

00:28:45.060 a book called

00:28:45.560 Woke Inc.

00:28:46.820 and is regularly

00:28:48.700 described as the

00:28:49.460 anti-woke businessman.

00:28:51.680 So he's got that

00:28:53.380 part going for him.

00:28:54.960 But he's also trying

00:28:56.180 to preserve some of

00:28:57.560 the classically liberal

00:28:59.540 libertarian tendencies

00:29:00.840 of the GOP in the

00:29:01.920 last 10 to 30 years.

00:29:03.960 So Vivek just came

00:29:05.220 out and urged more

00:29:06.900 free trade and more

00:29:08.560 legal migration.

00:29:10.420 The CPTPP, I think

00:29:12.220 we should re-enter it.

00:29:13.540 I think this is a

00:29:14.220 little bit different

00:29:14.680 than what, you know,

00:29:16.340 the course of action

00:29:16.940 taken by Trump and

00:29:17.720 exiting the TPP.

00:29:18.600 I think that was

00:29:18.940 actually a poor

00:29:20.160 decision.

00:29:20.760 I think that I can

00:29:22.120 use the leverage of

00:29:23.280 the fact that we did

00:29:23.980 exit it to be able to

00:29:25.600 say, all right,

00:29:26.280 here's what we need

00:29:26.860 done differently in a

00:29:27.820 number of the

00:29:28.240 countries from Japan on

00:29:29.500 down to be able to

00:29:30.820 say, here's how we

00:29:31.520 re-enter that on

00:29:32.240 fairer terms.

00:29:33.480 And so that's what

00:29:33.920 I'd like to see.

00:29:34.600 That puts us in then

00:29:35.420 a strong position from

00:29:36.680 a trade perspective to

00:29:37.600 then take a look at

00:29:38.600 where we stand vis-a-vis

00:29:39.340 China.

00:29:39.720 So I could go on for

00:29:40.780 hours on this one.

00:29:41.560 So we want to remain

00:29:42.280 really merit-focused.

00:29:44.360 We want to obviously,

00:29:45.160 I think, try to attract

00:29:46.520 the people from around

00:29:48.180 the world who are also

00:29:48.980 merit-focused and wish

00:29:50.240 to join the country.

00:29:51.980 And we should make it

00:29:52.740 much easier for them to

00:29:53.700 join.

00:29:54.560 I agree with that.

00:29:55.480 I actually fully agree

00:29:56.420 with that.

00:29:56.700 And that's one of the

00:29:58.620 things where I think

00:29:59.560 the Republican Party

00:30:01.280 needs to define where

00:30:02.460 we actually stand.

00:30:03.760 There is an anti-legal

00:30:05.860 immigration current

00:30:07.020 that, you know,

00:30:08.420 which I'm going to be

00:30:10.020 on the debate stage

00:30:11.060 in a month.

00:30:11.520 And this is going to be

00:30:12.100 something that if

00:30:12.660 anybody has any

00:30:14.840 qualms with this,

00:30:16.520 you know, I think I'm

00:30:17.300 going to have a real

00:30:17.660 problem with that

00:30:18.460 because merit-based

00:30:20.120 immigration is one

00:30:21.920 of the fixes to

00:30:22.860 economic growth in this

00:30:23.940 country.

00:30:24.340 So he's right about

00:30:25.980 that last part.

00:30:28.820 Mass migration,

00:30:29.920 mass legal migration

00:30:30.820 has been in service

00:30:33.180 of keeping the economy

00:30:34.320 afloat because people

00:30:34.920 aren't having kids

00:30:35.540 anymore.

00:30:35.860 And that's true not

00:30:36.360 just in America,

00:30:37.000 it's true throughout

00:30:37.660 the West.

00:30:38.380 But that's still a

00:30:39.640 problem.

00:30:40.740 It's a problem because

00:30:41.980 if you just flood your

00:30:42.800 country with foreigners 1.00

00:30:43.580 and you don't assimilate

00:30:44.520 them as we haven't been

00:30:45.280 able to do in 50 years,

00:30:46.440 then you're going to

00:30:47.240 lose the things that

00:30:48.220 distinguish your country.

00:30:49.660 Also because there's

00:30:50.820 more to a country than

00:30:51.920 just keeping the GDP

00:30:52.840 up.

00:30:53.300 Though, of course,

00:30:54.460 you don't want the

00:30:54.900 economy to collapse.

00:30:57.500 But this is an issue

00:31:00.140 that probably won't

00:31:00.640 come up on the debate

00:31:01.320 stage because none

00:31:02.520 of the candidates,

00:31:03.780 as far as I can tell,

00:31:05.600 support a reduction

00:31:06.840 in legal migration.

00:31:08.260 They all say we want

00:31:08.700 to end illegal

00:31:09.360 immigration, but we

00:31:10.160 want a lot of legal

00:31:12.060 immigration.

00:31:12.720 Trump himself,

00:31:13.960 who's the most

00:31:14.320 anti-immigrant major

00:31:15.480 candidate in my lifetime,

00:31:16.820 he said we want more

00:31:18.220 legal immigration than

00:31:19.640 ever.

00:31:20.340 And this is a problem,

00:31:22.100 one, because I think

00:31:23.060 it not only threatens

00:31:25.860 national identity and

00:31:28.240 cultural coherence and

00:31:30.280 the notion that we're

00:31:31.380 actually a country

00:31:32.200 defined by borders with

00:31:34.580 a real citizenry that's

00:31:36.840 distinct from foreigners, 0.75

00:31:38.600 but two, because the

00:31:40.960 majority of Americans want

00:31:42.700 to drastically reduce

00:31:43.820 immigration.

00:31:44.580 They don't usually say it

00:31:45.580 in those terms.

00:31:46.200 They won't say,

00:31:46.700 I'm anti-legal

00:31:47.520 immigrant.

00:31:48.000 If you just ask them

00:31:48.720 that question, do you want

00:31:49.620 more or less legal

00:31:50.360 immigration?

00:31:51.020 They'll often say more

00:31:52.300 or keep it the same.

00:31:53.540 But if you ask them,

00:31:54.500 what do you think would

00:31:54.980 be a good number for

00:31:56.800 migration?

00:31:58.380 Then you find out,

00:31:59.620 and there was a famous

00:32:01.000 Harvard-Harris poll that

00:32:01.800 came out a few years ago

00:32:02.700 on this point.

00:32:03.620 You find out that people

00:32:04.400 want drastically lower

00:32:05.740 immigration, like 60%

00:32:07.060 lower, legal and

00:32:08.120 illegal.

00:32:09.320 Because very often people

00:32:10.840 will say, well, about

00:32:11.540 half a million people a

00:32:12.420 year.

00:32:12.680 And that's nowhere near

00:32:13.600 what we've got.

00:32:14.020 We've got double that just

00:32:15.580 in terms of legal

00:32:16.300 immigration.

00:32:16.740 And then this year alone

00:32:17.800 we're going to have over

00:32:18.700 three and a half million

00:32:19.500 people apprehended crossing

00:32:21.880 the border illegally.

00:32:23.280 Who knows what the real

00:32:24.180 number is?

00:32:25.220 So now you're talking

00:32:25.840 about a huge, huge number.

00:32:31.160 No candidate is speaking

00:32:32.440 to that right now.

00:32:33.220 I think if a candidate did

00:32:34.200 say, look, it's nothing

00:32:35.480 against foreigners, it's 1.00

00:32:36.640 nothing against people from

00:32:37.420 all sorts of cultures, but

00:32:38.440 our culture is collapsing

00:32:40.080 and we have very little

00:32:41.260 that unifies us anymore,

00:32:42.260 including even the same

00:32:43.020 language.

00:32:43.420 We don't even really speak

00:32:44.020 the same language anymore.

00:32:44.860 We need, as we have done

00:32:46.780 in American history a

00:32:47.940 number of times, we need

00:32:49.300 to drastically reduce all

00:32:51.160 immigration in order to

00:32:52.960 regain some sense of

00:32:54.260 coherence and cohesion for

00:32:55.340 our people.

00:32:56.300 And then in 50 or 60 years

00:32:57.400 maybe we can open it back

00:32:58.360 up a little bit again.

00:33:00.060 What does this mean for

00:33:00.720 the race?

00:33:01.200 It means that Vivek is

00:33:02.160 trying to cut more of that

00:33:03.700 classically liberal view

00:33:07.760 while still maintaining

00:33:09.300 populist and nationalist

00:33:10.540 cred.

00:33:11.840 The migration issue won't 0.94

00:33:13.140 hurt him because nobody is

00:33:14.340 talking about reducing

00:33:15.860 legal immigration,

00:33:16.800 unfortunately.

00:33:18.020 The free trade issue

00:33:19.100 might because Trump has

00:33:20.100 now come out and said,

00:33:21.020 I'm running on

00:33:22.500 mercantilism for the

00:33:23.320 21st century.

00:33:24.180 I'm running on

00:33:25.060 protective tariffs, not

00:33:26.400 merely as an instrument to

00:33:27.440 get good free trade deals,

00:33:28.460 but as a good in and of

00:33:29.540 themselves.

00:33:30.780 Ron DeSantis has been a

00:33:31.920 little unclear on this.

00:33:33.160 We don't quite know

00:33:33.840 exactly where he stands on

00:33:35.340 this issue of trade.

00:33:36.700 And now Vivek is saying,

00:33:37.460 no, I'm still a free

00:33:38.780 trader.

00:33:39.860 And maybe it's a smart

00:33:42.400 move for Vivek in that it

00:33:44.340 allows him to distinguish

00:33:45.380 himself from the other top

00:33:46.600 candidates in the field.

00:33:47.400 And now we have to start

00:33:48.280 talking about Vivek, who

00:33:49.440 everybody said, oh, he came

00:33:50.660 out of nowhere.

00:33:51.060 No one knows who he is.

00:33:52.420 He is now becoming a top

00:33:54.380 candidate in this field,

00:33:56.160 albeit in a field that is

00:33:57.520 dominated by one candidate

00:33:59.620 over all of the others.

00:34:00.960 But this is going to be a

00:34:02.220 test in 2024.

00:34:03.540 How populist has the GOP

00:34:05.420 become?

00:34:05.820 How traditionally

00:34:07.220 conservative has the GOP

00:34:08.800 become?

00:34:09.140 Don't forget, the GOP was

00:34:09.860 founded on protective

00:34:10.660 tariffs.

00:34:11.380 Conservatives traditionally

00:34:12.660 have been the pro-tariff,

00:34:14.520 pro-protectionism group of

00:34:16.480 people in politics.

00:34:17.860 And the liberals have been

00:34:19.000 the free traders.

00:34:20.520 So that shifted a little

00:34:21.880 bit at the end of the

00:34:22.400 20th century.

00:34:23.400 This is going to be a

00:34:24.180 test.

00:34:25.740 How conservative is this

00:34:27.580 conservative swinging of

00:34:28.760 the pendulum really going

00:34:30.660 to be?

00:34:32.140 Now, speaking of woke

00:34:33.160 corporations, are you sick

00:34:34.640 of woke corporations

00:34:35.420 dragging your values

00:34:36.540 through the mud?

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00:34:54.720 for that matter.

00:34:55.440 Plus, it's not tested on

00:34:56.980 animals, and it's made

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00:34:59.760 What more could you want

00:35:01.240 from your hand soap than

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00:35:04.020 keeping a clean conscience?

00:35:05.420 So do yourself a favor

00:35:06.540 and wash your hands of

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00:35:11.260 ideal addition to your

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00:35:24.060 My favorite comment on

00:35:25.200 Friday is from

00:35:25.600 Cheesemunk3y127,

00:35:27.660 who says,

00:35:28.980 I used to believe in aliens

00:35:30.420 until the government said

00:35:32.100 they were real.

00:35:33.140 Great observation.

00:35:36.120 It's just so fake, guys.

00:35:39.360 Aliens are angels and demons

00:35:41.600 for liberals.

00:35:43.020 That's all.

00:35:43.700 That's all it is.

00:35:45.140 Probably mostly just demons.

00:35:47.480 That's what it is.

00:35:48.780 That's what it is, man.

00:35:50.700 Okay.

00:35:51.120 Before we move on from 2024,

00:35:52.680 just a quick button here,

00:35:54.040 because there's

00:35:55.360 good news,

00:35:57.920 potentially good news,

00:35:58.940 for one of the

00:36:00.180 not top candidates,

00:36:02.200 for Mike Pence,

00:36:03.620 who's had a really rough

00:36:05.120 launch to the campaign,

00:36:06.620 who had a really rough

00:36:08.060 town hall with

00:36:09.180 Tucker Carlson.

00:36:11.680 He may

00:36:12.800 have a glimmer of hope here

00:36:15.120 to move back up

00:36:16.380 into the race.

00:36:17.620 And it is because

00:36:18.740 Mike Pence over the weekend

00:36:19.760 vowed

00:36:20.400 to reinstate the trans 1.00

00:36:22.680 ban in the military.

00:36:24.040 We can embrace our role

00:36:25.820 as leader of the free world,

00:36:28.200 confront Russian aggression

00:36:29.520 and Chinese provocations

00:36:31.280 with a new military

00:36:33.000 fitted to the challenges

00:36:34.240 in the 21st century.

00:36:35.860 And we can

00:36:36.720 end the political correctness

00:36:39.080 at the Pentagon,

00:36:40.640 including

00:36:41.160 reinstituting a ban

00:36:43.320 on transgender personnel

00:36:45.180 in the United States military.

00:36:48.280 There you have it.

00:36:50.280 Now,

00:36:50.920 I think

00:36:52.600 I'm allowed to keep

00:36:53.820 this part of the show

00:36:54.540 on YouTube.

00:36:55.080 You know,

00:36:55.240 YouTube gets very touchy

00:36:56.300 when I talk about

00:36:57.280 important social issues

00:36:58.500 that are still being

00:36:59.380 debated right now.

00:37:00.200 You can talk about issues

00:37:01.200 that are not being

00:37:01.840 debated anymore,

00:37:02.580 that the libs have already won,

00:37:03.500 but you're not allowed

00:37:04.160 to talk about ones

00:37:04.740 that are still hot.

00:37:05.580 So,

00:37:06.100 I think we can keep

00:37:07.680 this part on YouTube

00:37:08.820 because

00:37:09.260 I'm just observing

00:37:11.180 Pence's

00:37:12.920 candidacy.

00:37:15.320 Pence comes out

00:37:15.920 and says,

00:37:16.180 I want to reinstitute

00:37:16.880 the trans ban

00:37:17.500 in the military.

00:37:18.860 It reminds me

00:37:19.940 that Pence's

00:37:20.600 best shot

00:37:22.380 in this race,

00:37:23.480 which probably won't work,

00:37:25.280 but I think it's

00:37:25.880 his best shot,

00:37:27.240 is to be

00:37:28.180 the hardcore

00:37:29.600 social conservative.

00:37:32.180 Trump is not really

00:37:33.440 a hardcore

00:37:34.020 social conservative.

00:37:35.620 Practically speaking,

00:37:36.900 he's more socially

00:37:37.580 conservative than

00:37:38.440 any president

00:37:38.940 in my lifetime

00:37:39.520 and most other

00:37:40.740 GOP candidates,

00:37:42.320 maybe all of them.

00:37:42.980 but

00:37:43.960 he's a little

00:37:46.160 open

00:37:47.320 on the rainbow stuff.

00:37:49.440 He's a little

00:37:50.300 ambiguous

00:37:51.900 on some of those issues.

00:37:54.120 He's a billionaire

00:37:54.880 from New York,

00:37:55.480 what do you expect?

00:37:57.940 Pence

00:37:58.340 has

00:37:58.800 made his early career

00:38:00.340 as a hardcore

00:38:01.300 social conservative.

00:38:03.280 Right now,

00:38:03.940 you don't totally see

00:38:04.880 that represented

00:38:05.500 in the race.

00:38:05.940 As we just said,

00:38:06.760 Vivek is

00:38:07.720 this great

00:38:09.340 kind of shake-it-up

00:38:10.280 out-of-left-field

00:38:11.000 candidate,

00:38:12.440 but he's still

00:38:12.840 got a little bit

00:38:13.240 of that

00:38:13.440 classical liberalism

00:38:14.320 to him.

00:38:15.880 DeSantis

00:38:16.400 is pretty

00:38:18.640 socially conservative,

00:38:20.700 but still,

00:38:21.840 a really

00:38:22.260 hardcore

00:38:22.700 social conservative

00:38:23.560 could knock

00:38:24.400 DeSantis

00:38:24.820 for the education

00:38:25.980 bill in Florida

00:38:26.540 saying,

00:38:27.860 well,

00:38:28.020 hold on,

00:38:28.660 your education

00:38:29.380 bill just

00:38:30.460 debated whether

00:38:31.320 to introduce

00:38:32.480 a transgender

00:38:33.000 curriculum in

00:38:33.880 third grade

00:38:34.260 or fourth grade?

00:38:34.900 What?

00:38:35.120 Come on,

00:38:35.500 that's weak

00:38:36.240 stuff, man.

00:38:37.000 Now,

00:38:37.640 DeSantis

00:38:37.920 could come back

00:38:38.420 and say,

00:38:38.700 well,

00:38:38.800 don't worry,

00:38:39.100 we expanded

00:38:39.520 that later on

00:38:40.200 and we've been

00:38:40.900 practically more

00:38:41.500 effective on this

00:38:42.120 issue than anyone

00:38:43.000 else in the

00:38:43.400 country.

00:38:43.760 So he's got a

00:38:44.280 good answer for it,

00:38:44.860 but there's an

00:38:45.360 opening there

00:38:45.900 is what I'm

00:38:46.220 saying.

00:38:46.960 And the only

00:38:48.360 opening I see

00:38:49.180 right now

00:38:49.680 is that one.

00:38:53.100 What Pence

00:38:53.920 staked his

00:38:54.700 campaign on,

00:38:55.520 and you saw it

00:38:55.960 in the opening

00:38:56.320 video and you

00:38:57.140 saw it in a lot

00:38:58.600 of his campaign

00:38:59.640 since then,

00:39:00.640 is I'm going to

00:39:01.780 be the return

00:39:02.380 to normal,

00:39:03.220 I just want to

00:39:03.900 get along with

00:39:04.540 business as usual

00:39:05.500 and support

00:39:06.440 corporations and

00:39:07.480 just be a nice

00:39:08.080 normal Republican

00:39:08.740 kind of campaign.

00:39:09.300 completely dead

00:39:10.580 in the water,

00:39:11.140 man.

00:39:11.340 That's going

00:39:11.800 nowhere.

00:39:13.060 Your only

00:39:13.600 light,

00:39:14.780 your only

00:39:15.320 chance here

00:39:16.340 is to double

00:39:17.100 out on this

00:39:17.760 kind of stuff.

00:39:18.280 So he might

00:39:19.200 have recognized

00:39:20.820 that.

00:39:22.060 And if he

00:39:22.820 wants the

00:39:23.180 campaign to

00:39:23.680 remain in

00:39:24.000 any way viable,

00:39:24.580 I think he's

00:39:25.020 got to pursue

00:39:25.420 that further.

00:39:27.520 All right,

00:39:27.760 now for the

00:39:28.120 part that I

00:39:28.500 can't keep

00:39:28.900 on YouTube.

00:39:30.700 A transgender

00:39:31.680 activist is

00:39:33.780 threatening to

00:39:34.540 dismember a

00:39:35.760 school board

00:39:36.180 president and

00:39:36.960 kill her entire 0.62

00:39:37.680 family and her

00:39:38.440 children.

00:39:39.300 Because the

00:39:41.760 school board

00:39:42.340 president is

00:39:45.340 supporting a

00:39:47.220 policy that

00:39:48.540 would require

00:39:49.260 schools to

00:39:50.800 notify parents

00:39:52.160 if their kids

00:39:53.800 want to switch

00:39:54.380 genders, which

00:39:56.220 is of course not

00:39:56.820 possible, but

00:39:57.360 some people

00:39:57.680 pretend it's

00:39:58.100 possible.

00:39:59.720 So I know

00:40:01.260 there's a lot

00:40:01.700 of layers to

00:40:02.300 that.

00:40:03.220 School board

00:40:03.580 president, this

00:40:04.400 lady by the

00:40:05.400 name of, what's

00:40:05.980 her name?

00:40:06.780 Sonia Shaw.

00:40:08.240 She leads the

00:40:09.140 Chino Valley

00:40:09.860 school board in

00:40:10.720 Riverside County

00:40:11.320 in SoCal.

00:40:13.900 Sonia is not 0.85

00:40:15.120 saying don't

00:40:15.720 trans the kids. 0.65

00:40:16.780 Sonia is not 0.85

00:40:17.780 saying get the

00:40:18.460 LGBT propaganda

00:40:19.260 out of schools.

00:40:20.100 Sonia is not 0.85

00:40:20.580 saying perfectly

00:40:22.020 normal things that

00:40:23.140 would have been

00:40:23.580 mainstream in both

00:40:24.380 parties even 10

00:40:25.140 years ago.

00:40:26.600 Sonia is just 0.89

00:40:27.460 saying, hey, if

00:40:28.420 you're going to

00:40:29.140 trans the kids,

00:40:30.680 maybe you have

00:40:31.720 to let their

00:40:33.160 parents know at

00:40:34.880 some point.

00:40:36.520 And for this, a

00:40:38.960 transgender activist

00:40:39.880 called the

00:40:40.280 district and

00:40:41.500 said that he

00:40:43.400 was going to

00:40:44.180 kill her and 1.00

00:40:45.740 dismember her

00:40:46.700 body parts, her

00:40:48.160 limbs specifically,

00:40:49.680 and kill her 0.98

00:40:50.960 children and

00:40:51.560 pets in

00:40:53.200 retaliation.

00:40:54.240 And there's a

00:40:54.860 kind of artistry

00:40:56.460 to this threat.

00:40:57.700 There's a really

00:40:58.460 clever parallelism

00:40:59.660 because what the

00:41:00.420 threat amounts to

00:41:01.320 is, let us

00:41:04.380 dismember

00:41:05.120 children or we

00:41:06.800 will dismember

00:41:07.480 you.

00:41:08.840 That's kind of

00:41:09.640 clever. 0.51

00:41:10.080 I don't know if it

00:41:10.520 was totally

00:41:10.920 conscious, but

00:41:11.860 it doesn't seem

00:41:14.240 great.

00:41:15.780 So, not exactly

00:41:16.840 unexpected.

00:41:18.160 People who are

00:41:18.880 obviously deeply

00:41:19.960 mentally disturbed

00:41:20.840 doing things that

00:41:22.220 deeply mentally

00:41:22.860 disturbed people

00:41:23.520 do.

00:41:24.040 Not exactly a

00:41:26.140 man bites dog

00:41:27.000 story here.

00:41:29.600 It's a man who

00:41:30.660 identifies as a

00:41:31.300 woman biting a 0.99

00:41:32.160 school board

00:41:32.540 president story.

00:41:34.900 This is what all

00:41:36.160 politics is going

00:41:37.180 to be if we

00:41:38.900 don't nip this

00:41:39.720 stuff in the

00:41:40.480 bud.

00:41:43.240 The transgender

00:41:44.260 issue is so

00:41:45.300 hot and alive

00:41:46.680 because not

00:41:48.820 only is it

00:41:49.640 about sex,

00:41:50.440 which always

00:41:51.220 makes headlines,

00:41:52.400 not only is it

00:41:53.740 about children

00:41:55.420 and threatening

00:41:58.020 children and

00:41:58.980 ruining their

00:41:59.380 lives, which

00:42:00.600 the story is.

00:42:02.680 It's because

00:42:03.520 it's about

00:42:04.420 whether or not

00:42:05.800 the regime

00:42:06.460 can insist

00:42:07.820 upon obvious

00:42:09.360 falsehood

00:42:10.140 in public life

00:42:12.500 and make you

00:42:12.940 assent to it.

00:42:13.740 That's what it's

00:42:14.320 about.

00:42:15.380 It's about

00:42:16.220 can the regime

00:42:17.560 make you lie

00:42:19.200 and make all of

00:42:20.460 us tell lies,

00:42:21.160 lies that all of

00:42:21.880 us, even the

00:42:22.380 pro-trans people,

00:42:23.380 know to be lies.

00:42:24.900 Everybody knows a

00:42:25.720 man can't really be a

00:42:26.400 woman.

00:42:26.700 Everybody knows it.

00:42:27.400 That's why this

00:42:28.540 issue is so

00:42:29.040 powerful.

00:42:31.040 And the

00:42:31.320 problem with

00:42:31.840 that is, if

00:42:32.540 you allow that

00:42:33.900 to happen, if

00:42:34.620 you establish

00:42:35.260 obvious falsehood

00:42:36.200 in your

00:42:36.980 politics, then

00:42:38.360 you remove the

00:42:39.160 ability for

00:42:40.040 civil discourse

00:42:40.840 and reasonable

00:42:41.920 debate in

00:42:42.600 politics because

00:42:43.860 reason has to

00:42:44.800 go out the

00:42:45.160 window because

00:42:46.040 your politics is

00:42:46.800 no longer

00:42:47.280 grounded in

00:42:48.120 truth.

00:42:48.420 It's merely

00:42:49.200 grounded in

00:42:50.100 interest and

00:42:52.720 fantasy and

00:42:53.680 desire, which

00:42:54.880 will be enforced

00:42:55.600 not through

00:42:56.300 reason because

00:42:56.880 you have

00:42:57.120 nothing objective

00:42:58.520 by which to

00:43:00.100 conduct a civil

00:43:01.040 debate.

00:43:01.720 It can only be

00:43:03.100 fought over by

00:43:04.840 violence.

00:43:06.420 That's the end

00:43:07.200 result.

00:43:07.880 That's why as

00:43:08.600 politics becomes

00:43:09.360 less recognizing

00:43:12.520 of reason, less

00:43:14.520 able to discern

00:43:15.440 truth from

00:43:15.860 falsehood, or

00:43:16.780 less willing to

00:43:17.400 discern truth from

00:43:17.940 falsehood, politics

00:43:19.000 is going to

00:43:19.860 become more

00:43:21.160 violent.

00:43:22.640 And you think

00:43:23.220 that call about

00:43:24.240 dismembering ladies 1.00

00:43:25.460 entire family, for

00:43:27.400 even modestly

00:43:27.980 opposing

00:43:28.360 transgenderism, is

00:43:30.080 intense.

00:43:32.800 Just wait until

00:43:34.480 those policies go

00:43:35.340 into effect.

00:43:37.120 Today's Music

00:43:37.720 Monday, baby.

00:43:38.660 And it's

00:43:39.400 Mailbag Monday, a

00:43:40.400 little bit of

00:43:40.700 mailbag, because

00:43:41.280 on Friday, back

00:43:42.760 when I was still

00:43:43.260 in Hungary, I

00:43:44.840 didn't get to as

00:43:45.320 much of the

00:43:45.600 mailbag as I

00:43:46.060 wanted.

00:43:46.620 There were a few

00:43:46.960 questions.

00:43:47.260 I didn't get to

00:43:47.640 any of the

00:43:47.940 written mailbag

00:43:48.320 questions, so

00:43:48.680 we're going to

00:43:48.860 get to a few

00:43:49.280 of them.

00:43:49.580 We're going to

00:43:49.800 get my iPad.

00:43:50.440 Whenever Professor

00:43:51.140 Jacob gets me

00:43:52.060 my iPad, where

00:43:52.940 is it?

00:43:53.840 And we're going to

00:43:54.360 get to whatever

00:43:55.020 the song is

00:43:55.560 today.

00:43:56.440 But only if

00:43:57.240 you're a member

00:43:57.680 of the

00:43:57.980 inner circle of

00:43:59.840 this show.

00:44:00.480 If you're a 0.88

00:44:00.960 hoi polloi on

00:44:02.360 YouTube, then you

00:44:03.160 don't get it, man.

00:44:03.900 I'm sorry.

00:44:04.280 You've got to go to

00:44:04.680 dailywire.com right

00:44:06.220 now.

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00:44:09.680 I don't know,

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00:44:17.340 And I will get to

00:44:18.120 chat with you

00:44:18.900 momentarily.

00:44:19.960 actually.

00:44:20.800 Thank you.

The Michael Knowles Show - July 31, 2023

Ep. 1298 - Kamala Harris Claims Ron DeSantis Praised Slavery

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