The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 1298 - Kamala Harris Claims Ron DeSantis Praised Slavery


Summary

Sen. Kamala Harris traded her disingenuous cackle for a disingenuous shriek when she attacked Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis over his state's new curriculum, which she insists praises the benefits of slavery. But is it unnecessary to debate whether enslaved people benefited from slavery?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Kamala Harris traded her disingenuous cackle for a disingenuous shriek over the weekend
00:00:05.580 when she attacked Florida Governor Ron DeSantis over his state's new curriculum,
00:00:10.380 which she insists praises the benefits of slavery.
00:00:16.140 This is unnecessary to debate whether enslaved people benefited from slavery. Are you kidding me?
00:00:25.280 Are we supposed to debate that?
00:00:30.000 Let us not be distracted by what they're trying to do,
00:00:36.740 which is to create unnecessary debates to divide our country.
00:00:43.180 Now, of course, that is not what the curriculum states.
00:00:46.660 We've got the text that the New Florida Standards state, quote,
00:00:50.060 instructional materials shall include the vital contributions of African Americans
00:00:54.840 to build and strengthen American society
00:00:57.500 and celebrate the inspirational stories of African Americans who prospered,
00:01:02.020 even in the most difficult circumstances.
00:01:06.020 The supposedly controversial section that Kamala was referring to
00:01:09.840 simply acknowledges that, quote,
00:01:12.240 slaves developed skills which, in some instances,
00:01:16.420 could be applied for their personal benefit,
00:01:19.240 which is obviously true.
00:01:21.400 This is the thesis of Booker T. Washington's book, Up From Slavery.
00:01:25.620 This is the premise of much of Frederick Douglass's writing.
00:01:28.540 This is what was going through the mind of the black,
00:01:31.720 black historian, William B. Allen,
00:01:34.580 when he wrote the supposedly racist offensive standards.
00:01:37.800 What's more important than that dishonest purpose is the truth.
00:01:42.560 And this curriculum is devoted to telling the truth,
00:01:46.020 whereas Kamala Harris has retailed a lie.
00:01:49.380 Now, it may only have been a falsehood the first time she stated it,
00:01:53.200 but when you repeat a falsehood, it becomes a lie.
00:01:55.520 This curriculum is about is having people who live the experience,
00:02:00.440 who live the history, tell their stories.
00:02:03.520 And nothing is more important than that we never, ever erase the stories
00:02:09.700 that the people who live the stories tell.
00:02:12.240 No one has a right to interpret before first understanding the stories
00:02:16.440 as the people who live them understood them themselves.
00:02:20.080 The biggest problem with Kamala's attack is not the dishonesty.
00:02:24.460 That's par for the course.
00:02:25.700 The problem is the claim that she's attacking is true.
00:02:30.960 It's a deep and enduring truth.
00:02:32.900 Slaves benefited from enduring hardship,
00:02:35.680 just as everyone can benefit from enduring hardship.
00:02:39.440 And the fashionable insistence that suffering is always bad
00:02:42.780 is making us a nation that is weak, confused, and depressed
00:02:47.360 because we can't make sense of human nature
00:02:49.760 and the fact of a fallen world.
00:02:52.580 On that chipper note, I'm Michael Knowles.
00:02:54.440 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:03:02.900 Welcome back to the show.
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00:03:17.000 Republican Congress Lady Nancy Mace made a joke about fornicating
00:03:21.420 at the National Prayer Breakfast.
00:03:22.900 It's caused quite a stir, and most reactions I've seen to it are wrong.
00:03:27.320 So we'll get to that in just a little bit.
00:03:29.500 First, though, speaking of historical revision,
00:03:32.340 a new gay historical figure just dropped.
00:03:35.880 You know this happens every few years now.
00:03:39.360 The libs will take some well-known historical figure
00:03:42.480 and then just decide out of the blue that he's a gay guy or a lesbian
00:03:46.320 or some other kind of marginalized identity that we all know he isn't.
00:03:51.020 So the new historical figure that the libs are trying to rainbow wash,
00:03:58.460 they're trying to paint him lavender, is the poet Alfred Lord Tennyson.
00:04:02.740 And you might know Alfred Lord Tennyson, even if you're not a big poetry buff,
00:04:05.560 you might know him because one of his poems,
00:04:07.600 Crossing the Bar, is frequently read at funerals.
00:04:10.560 Sunset, an evening star, and one clear call for me,
00:04:13.020 and may there be no moaning of the bar when I put out to sea.
00:04:15.120 You may have heard that one.
00:04:16.780 Wonderful poet.
00:04:18.520 I've always really liked Tennyson.
00:04:19.960 And never suspected that he was a gay guy.
00:04:24.180 And the reason I never suspected that is that he was married for over 40 years
00:04:28.620 and had two children.
00:04:30.280 And another reason I never suspected that is that there's no evidence whatsoever
00:04:35.260 that he is a little light in the old loafers.
00:04:39.540 So where do they get this from?
00:04:43.840 This is the saddest part of the story for me.
00:04:45.860 This is the saddest part of the modern impulse to queer historical figures.
00:04:54.140 The evidence that this LGBT group, it's called the LGBT Heritage Trail in the UK,
00:04:59.860 the evidence that they say they have that Tennyson is a gay guy is that he had a friend.
00:05:08.220 Their evidence is that Tennyson had this friend, Arthur Henry Hallam,
00:05:13.940 and he wrote a very famous poem to him.
00:05:15.980 It's called In Memoriam A-H-H.
00:05:18.380 And it's where we get that line,
00:05:20.020 better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.
00:05:26.120 Hallam,
00:05:26.520 there is no evidence whatsoever that Hallam had a romantic relationship with Tennyson
00:05:32.760 or that Tennyson desired a romantic relationship with Hallam or anything like that.
00:05:36.080 They were college buddies.
00:05:37.240 They were in a debating society together.
00:05:39.180 They were good friends.
00:05:40.260 They traveled together.
00:05:41.480 They corresponded quite a lot.
00:05:42.880 They obviously had a deep love,
00:05:45.180 the love of friendship for one another.
00:05:48.200 But not only did they not have any romantic love,
00:05:51.580 Hallam was engaged to Tennyson's sister.
00:05:53.840 So Hallam would have been his brother-in-law.
00:05:55.180 And the reason that I think that the libs,
00:06:02.220 maybe sincerely,
00:06:03.680 maybe earnestly believe that these older historical figures were gay
00:06:06.980 is because they don't understand friendship.
00:06:09.860 Because men are not really allowed to have friends anymore.
00:06:12.780 Modern culture is just shocked,
00:06:15.060 absolutely bewildered by the suggestion
00:06:17.820 that a man can have a deep friendship.
00:06:19.680 Because in as much as men are permitted to have friends in modern society,
00:06:23.520 the only kind of friends men are allowed to have
00:06:26.100 is the sort of go out and get hammered
00:06:29.900 or come over and watch the game kind of friend.
00:06:33.440 That's fine.
00:06:34.120 But the moment that a man has a friend
00:06:36.080 with whom he discusses things that really matter,
00:06:39.780 with whom he talks about eternal questions,
00:06:43.920 in whom he confides,
00:06:46.180 with whom he has an actual friendship,
00:06:48.380 you know,
00:06:48.600 in the old kind of Aristotelian sense of a deep friendship,
00:06:51.720 a friendship of truth and virtue,
00:06:53.440 then he's got to be a gay guy.
00:06:55.120 Because we just can't fathom that.
00:06:56.920 You know,
00:06:57.360 we're in a very lonely society,
00:06:59.260 in a very alienated society,
00:07:00.780 where self-reported rates of loneliness
00:07:02.860 and depression and alienation
00:07:04.340 have just skyrocketed in recent years.
00:07:06.760 This is one of the reasons why.
00:07:08.720 I'm not saying that no historical figures
00:07:10.560 were a little bit queer.
00:07:13.220 Someone like Walt Whitman
00:07:14.360 was probably a little light in the moccasins.
00:07:16.540 But when you go to someone like Tennyson
00:07:18.560 and there's just no evidence of it whatsoever,
00:07:21.560 other than the fact that he had a friend,
00:07:24.800 that is an indictment of our society.
00:07:27.900 And I think it lies at the heart
00:07:29.380 of a lot of the sexual confusion
00:07:31.200 and a lot of the political dysfunction.
00:07:33.760 The fact that people don't have true friends anymore.
00:07:37.240 We have friends of convenience.
00:07:38.520 We have friends of work,
00:07:40.680 friends by accident.
00:07:41.700 You know,
00:07:41.800 you work with someone
00:07:42.560 and maybe you go get a drink with them afterward.
00:07:44.540 You have friends of shared interests,
00:07:47.520 like you both like Spider-Man or something,
00:07:49.440 so you connect over that.
00:07:50.920 But proper friendship,
00:07:53.000 you know,
00:07:53.180 friendship of the good.
00:07:55.900 Hard to find,
00:07:56.860 especially in a society
00:07:57.660 that's so relativistic and liberal
00:07:59.100 that we deny the very existence of the good.
00:08:01.620 And so now we look back
00:08:02.540 and we take really good,
00:08:03.740 strong,
00:08:04.580 traditional conservative poets
00:08:05.640 and say that they were
00:08:07.120 a little bit eccentric.
00:08:10.580 I don't think so.
00:08:11.460 I don't think so, man.
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00:09:33.140 Speaking of sexual confusion,
00:09:36.700 Nancy Mace,
00:09:37.580 Republican Congress lady.
00:09:39.540 She's a liberal Republican,
00:09:41.560 but I kind of like her.
00:09:44.480 She's been on the right side
00:09:46.520 of at least a handful of issues,
00:09:47.760 and she's clearly a little bit lost
00:09:51.680 and trying to figure things out,
00:09:53.220 and that's true of a lot of people
00:09:54.420 in modern culture.
00:09:55.600 Well, Nancy Mace really stepped in it
00:09:57.060 because she showed up
00:09:57.700 to the National Prayer Breakfast
00:09:59.100 and decided to open her remarks
00:10:01.160 with a joke about how she almost fornicated
00:10:03.540 before showing up to the event.
00:10:06.000 Another year,
00:10:07.140 another standing room only event,
00:10:09.600 and when I woke up this morning at 7,
00:10:12.020 I was getting picked up at 7.45.
00:10:14.360 Patrick, my fiance,
00:10:15.780 tried to pull me by my waist
00:10:17.540 over this morning in bed,
00:10:19.040 and I was like,
00:10:19.400 no, baby,
00:10:19.720 we don't got time for that this morning.
00:10:21.980 I got to get to the prayer breakfast,
00:10:23.840 and I got to be on time,
00:10:25.820 and a little TMI,
00:10:27.620 but he can wait.
00:10:31.320 I'll see him later tonight,
00:10:32.900 but I was here early today.
00:10:37.040 It's just so cringe,
00:10:39.340 and this is the defining feature
00:10:43.120 of Nancy Mace's political persona,
00:10:45.280 and it's very sad,
00:10:49.000 and she should try to nip it in the bud,
00:10:50.460 and a lot of other conservatives
00:10:51.960 who are tempted this way
00:10:54.640 should nip it in the bud, too.
00:10:56.240 It's not the sex stuff.
00:10:57.660 It's that she always wants to be
00:11:00.060 the cool conservative.
00:11:02.040 She's like the mom on Mean Girls.
00:11:03.620 I'm not a regular mom.
00:11:04.940 I'm a cool mom.
00:11:06.360 I'm not a regular conservative.
00:11:08.520 I'm a cool conservative.
00:11:10.060 I'm not a regular Christian.
00:11:11.260 You know, I'm a cool Christian.
00:11:12.960 I almost fornicated with a man
00:11:15.160 who's not my husband this morning,
00:11:16.340 but don't worry.
00:11:16.800 I'm going to do it later tonight.
00:11:18.380 Anyway, let's talk about God and prayer.
00:11:20.800 Ah, man.
00:11:21.760 Good grief, lady.
00:11:23.720 Just read the room.
00:11:25.340 Read the room,
00:11:26.120 and recognize that there are
00:11:28.480 more important things in life
00:11:29.720 than being considered cool
00:11:31.080 by the liberals.
00:11:32.200 Who hate you?
00:11:33.720 Who hate you?
00:11:34.360 No matter how irreverent you are,
00:11:37.900 no matter how much you try
00:11:39.400 to distinguish yourself
00:11:40.260 from your political party
00:11:41.340 and the conservatives
00:11:42.100 and your supporters,
00:11:43.100 they will never like you.
00:11:45.420 You're a Republican, okay?
00:11:48.020 Your best option to be cool
00:11:50.900 is to reject the standards of coolness
00:11:53.120 of the liberal culture,
00:11:55.200 which way lies madness
00:11:57.600 and which will always hate you,
00:11:59.380 and to be a conservative.
00:12:01.820 She says she's a Christian.
00:12:02.900 But here's how she says it.
00:12:05.620 She says,
00:12:06.360 when she was defending these remarks,
00:12:07.880 she said,
00:12:09.020 I go to church
00:12:09.520 because I'm a sinner,
00:12:10.320 not a saint.
00:12:11.340 Glad those in attendance,
00:12:12.460 including Senator Tim Scott
00:12:13.520 and my pastor,
00:12:14.500 her pastor was in attendance.
00:12:16.460 How disgraceful for him
00:12:17.600 that she would do this.
00:12:19.460 Took this joke in stride.
00:12:20.780 But what,
00:12:21.220 was it a joke?
00:12:22.380 It was a joke
00:12:23.060 in that she intended
00:12:23.680 for it to be funny,
00:12:24.440 but I don't think she's joking
00:12:25.400 that she sleeps with her fiance.
00:12:27.780 I think that part,
00:12:29.080 maybe she was joking about that
00:12:30.200 and it was just a whole bit,
00:12:31.220 but I don't think it is,
00:12:32.060 judging by her other comments.
00:12:33.600 It was Pastor Greg,
00:12:34.620 of course his name is Pastor Greg.
00:12:36.120 Pastor Greg and I
00:12:37.040 will have extra to talk about
00:12:38.860 on Sunday.
00:12:39.580 Ha, ha, ha.
00:12:40.140 And there's a little
00:12:40.540 laughing face emoji.
00:12:42.340 Yes, of course,
00:12:43.140 we go to church
00:12:43.960 because we are sinners
00:12:45.760 in this fallen world.
00:12:47.280 We're subject to concupiscence
00:12:49.880 and sin and death
00:12:51.300 pervade the world.
00:12:52.620 And, you know,
00:12:53.380 it's a tough go of it here
00:12:54.560 and it's a pilgrimage
00:12:55.220 and we pray for grace,
00:12:56.340 of course.
00:12:57.060 There but for the grace of God
00:12:57.980 go I.
00:12:58.620 All men sin
00:12:59.860 and fall short
00:13:00.260 of the glory of God.
00:13:02.340 You don't need to brag about it
00:13:04.320 because that will,
00:13:07.820 one,
00:13:08.540 suggest that you're not
00:13:09.600 really sorry for your sins.
00:13:11.940 You haven't really repented.
00:13:13.860 You're just brazenly
00:13:15.260 continuing in a state
00:13:17.440 of grave mortal sin,
00:13:18.460 which again,
00:13:19.620 describes a lot of the world.
00:13:21.000 The difference is
00:13:21.600 you're at least
00:13:23.380 putatively a Christian
00:13:24.640 at a Christian prayer breakfast
00:13:26.960 and then furthermore,
00:13:30.020 you're incurring
00:13:30.600 the sin of scandal
00:13:31.340 because you're leading
00:13:32.020 others astray
00:13:32.560 by saying this is
00:13:33.140 what Christians do.
00:13:34.360 And you're implicating
00:13:35.600 your pastor in that sin also.
00:13:37.640 I recognize
00:13:38.640 it's a very
00:13:39.580 messed up culture
00:13:41.800 and catechesis
00:13:42.700 is really weak these days
00:13:43.560 and people don't really know
00:13:44.620 how they're supposed to behave.
00:13:45.420 I have a great deal of
00:13:46.420 sympathy and empathy
00:13:47.600 even for all of that.
00:13:49.240 But this is a real indictment
00:13:51.340 of this lady's pastor,
00:13:53.300 of whatever ecclesial community
00:13:55.660 Pastor Greg
00:13:56.500 seems to be leading.
00:13:57.620 It doesn't seem to be
00:13:58.300 forming souls all that well
00:13:59.600 if these are the kind of jokes
00:14:00.840 that his flock make
00:14:01.860 at national prayer breakfasts.
00:14:05.780 And it raises the question,
00:14:06.940 why was she invited to speak?
00:14:08.520 What,
00:14:09.820 ah man,
00:14:10.500 what are these people going after?
00:14:11.540 It's the conservatives
00:14:12.260 and the nominal Christians
00:14:14.620 in our culture.
00:14:15.440 What are they going after?
00:14:16.280 Do they want to
00:14:18.960 establish a big tent
00:14:21.980 and accommodate themselves
00:14:23.340 to the way of the world
00:14:24.540 and the way of the decadent,
00:14:26.520 degraded liberal culture
00:14:27.800 to try to win some elections
00:14:30.120 or fill up the pews
00:14:31.240 or something like that?
00:14:32.920 Or,
00:14:33.720 do they want to
00:14:34.880 speak the truth?
00:14:36.260 And,
00:14:36.880 speak the truth
00:14:38.580 come what may
00:14:39.420 because to,
00:14:41.260 to win
00:14:42.480 some kind of nominal victory
00:14:44.760 by adopting
00:14:46.300 all of your opponent's
00:14:47.680 beliefs and premises
00:14:48.600 and behaviors
00:14:49.300 is no victory at all.
00:14:50.620 It's a Pyrrhic victory.
00:14:51.840 It's a concession.
00:14:52.860 It's a surrender.
00:14:53.980 It's a loss.
00:14:55.460 It's like that good old line
00:14:56.780 which I'll attribute
00:14:57.920 to Fulton Sheen.
00:14:58.600 A few different people
00:14:59.360 lay claim to this line.
00:15:01.940 If you marry yourself
00:15:03.020 to the spirit of the age,
00:15:03.980 you'll find yourself
00:15:04.700 a widow in the next.
00:15:07.240 If you,
00:15:07.580 if you wedge yourself
00:15:09.000 to the spirit of liberalism
00:15:10.160 as a conservative,
00:15:10.920 then you haven't won anything.
00:15:11.960 You're just,
00:15:12.360 you're just,
00:15:12.860 you're a big lip.
00:15:13.860 And this is of course
00:15:14.800 especially true in the case
00:15:15.700 if you're a Christian
00:15:16.360 and you say,
00:15:17.060 I'm a Christian
00:15:17.480 but I just do all the things
00:15:18.540 that the world tell me to do
00:15:19.460 and I just try to seem cool
00:15:21.240 by the standards
00:15:21.860 of this fallen world
00:15:22.680 which is under the rule
00:15:23.960 of the devil himself,
00:15:25.800 then that's not a victory, man.
00:15:27.480 That's a loss.
00:15:28.360 Then what does it even mean
00:15:29.960 to say you're a Christian?
00:15:31.320 You know,
00:15:31.440 I was in Hungary last week
00:15:32.500 and I'll publish the text
00:15:34.520 of my speech
00:15:35.340 that I gave
00:15:35.980 at the big political conference there.
00:15:38.720 I'll publish it on Daily Wire
00:15:39.960 and I think there's going to be
00:15:40.880 a video that goes up
00:15:41.860 soon enough.
00:15:43.180 But the topic of my speech
00:15:44.960 was how salvation hinges
00:15:47.440 on the flesh
00:15:48.180 which is a line from Tertullian,
00:15:50.140 the early Christian writer,
00:15:51.660 that the flesh itself
00:15:52.800 is the hinge of salvation.
00:15:54.140 In modernity,
00:15:55.080 we like to think that
00:15:56.220 my faith is just something
00:15:58.740 that lives in my head.
00:15:59.900 You know,
00:16:00.160 look,
00:16:00.380 maybe I sin all the time
00:16:02.080 and I lead others into sin
00:16:03.360 and I laugh about it
00:16:04.200 and I brag about it
00:16:04.900 and I don't do anything
00:16:05.400 to try to stop it.
00:16:06.300 But hey,
00:16:06.960 if I think in my head
00:16:08.260 that I'm a Christian,
00:16:08.940 then I'm a Christian.
00:16:10.840 Even in the political realm.
00:16:12.540 I can move to a city,
00:16:14.640 I cannot get married,
00:16:15.640 I cannot have kids,
00:16:16.500 I cannot take virtue seriously,
00:16:17.720 I cannot go to church,
00:16:18.800 I cannot do anything
00:16:20.120 other than go to brunch
00:16:21.920 and live according
00:16:23.560 to the modern liberal culture.
00:16:24.720 But if I tell myself
00:16:25.740 I'm a conservative,
00:16:26.980 then I'm a conservative.
00:16:27.860 No, man,
00:16:28.460 you've got to do it.
00:16:29.340 We live in time and space.
00:16:31.100 Especially when we're
00:16:31.740 talking about Christianity,
00:16:32.460 we're talking about a religion
00:16:33.180 that views the incarnation
00:16:35.340 and the crucifixion
00:16:36.420 and the resurrection
00:16:36.820 as the very pivot
00:16:37.840 and meaning of history.
00:16:39.180 It's the most historically
00:16:40.740 focused religion
00:16:41.740 that there is,
00:16:42.840 meaning time and space
00:16:44.040 and actions of real men
00:16:45.200 and flesh and blood
00:16:45.940 in places.
00:16:47.020 Hungary gets this,
00:16:48.160 which is why Hungary
00:16:49.180 has reordered its law
00:16:50.620 and its culture
00:16:51.280 to better accommodate
00:16:53.980 people who are trying
00:16:55.200 to pursue goodness
00:16:56.340 and truth and beauty.
00:16:57.320 You see it in the beauty
00:16:57.940 of the buildings
00:16:58.540 that the government
00:16:59.580 is actively trying to restore.
00:17:01.760 You see this in the truth
00:17:03.660 of the eternal principles
00:17:04.900 that the government
00:17:05.360 is enshrining
00:17:06.080 in its constitution
00:17:07.000 and its laws.
00:17:08.060 And you see this
00:17:09.500 in the clear moral vision
00:17:12.220 that the Hungarian government
00:17:13.680 has laid out,
00:17:14.520 which is nothing new.
00:17:15.900 It's just the traditional
00:17:16.640 moral vision
00:17:17.280 of our Christian civilization,
00:17:18.880 which the liberal societies
00:17:21.260 either ignore
00:17:22.280 or invert
00:17:23.120 and say that good is evil
00:17:24.420 and evil is good.
00:17:27.360 You've got to do stuff.
00:17:29.060 And let's say that Nancy Mace
00:17:30.700 keeps sinning or whatever.
00:17:31.920 We all sin at different times,
00:17:33.600 but we should be ashamed of that.
00:17:36.020 We should not brag
00:17:36.680 about it in public.
00:17:37.500 We should go seek absolution
00:17:39.000 and forgiveness.
00:17:40.840 Speaking of love,
00:17:42.620 marriage,
00:17:43.020 and the baby carriage,
00:17:44.640 some good news.
00:17:46.640 Joe Biden is finally acknowledging
00:17:48.460 his granddaughter.
00:17:51.360 You know,
00:17:51.760 I've harangued him on this show
00:17:53.340 for a long time
00:17:54.620 because I say
00:17:55.780 it's the worst thing
00:17:57.220 that I could say
00:17:58.300 about Joe Biden.
00:17:59.060 Forget about all the corruption
00:18:00.000 and the scandals
00:18:00.660 and taking money
00:18:01.240 from the Ukrainians
00:18:02.160 and the lies
00:18:03.020 and all the rest of it.
00:18:05.220 The meanest thing
00:18:06.420 that I've ever seen him do
00:18:07.440 is not acknowledge
00:18:09.140 his sweet little
00:18:09.740 four-year-old granddaughter
00:18:10.620 and intentionally
00:18:12.420 not acknowledge her.
00:18:13.900 Omit her stocking
00:18:14.820 from the White House
00:18:15.320 Christmas display.
00:18:16.980 Constantly say,
00:18:18.080 I only have six grandchildren,
00:18:19.800 not seven.
00:18:21.240 Finally, though,
00:18:23.120 Biden acknowledges her.
00:18:25.220 Why is he acknowledging her?
00:18:27.600 In a statement
00:18:28.540 to People magazine,
00:18:30.720 Biden says,
00:18:32.340 our son Hunter
00:18:33.220 and Navy's mother,
00:18:34.580 London,
00:18:35.280 are working together
00:18:36.140 to foster a relationship
00:18:37.340 that is in the best interests
00:18:38.840 of their daughter,
00:18:40.040 preserving their privacy
00:18:40.900 as much as possible
00:18:41.680 going forward.
00:18:42.100 First of all,
00:18:42.480 that's not true.
00:18:43.400 Hunter refuses to even
00:18:44.360 speak to this daughter.
00:18:45.500 Hunter just went to court
00:18:46.280 to try to stop paying
00:18:47.140 the mother child support.
00:18:48.540 Hunter,
00:18:49.260 or to greatly reduce
00:18:50.180 the child support
00:18:50.700 that he was paying.
00:18:51.820 Hunter also just sued
00:18:53.520 to stop the daughter
00:18:55.180 from having his last name.
00:18:57.280 In no way,
00:18:58.160 there is zero evidence
00:18:59.260 that Hunter Biden
00:19:00.820 is trying to establish
00:19:01.780 a relationship
00:19:02.520 in the best interests
00:19:03.260 of the daughter.
00:19:03.820 Hunter is trying to
00:19:04.680 completely screw
00:19:05.540 his daughter over
00:19:06.280 and mess her up
00:19:08.180 and traumatize her
00:19:08.820 in every way possible.
00:19:09.600 That's all the evidence
00:19:10.360 that we have.
00:19:11.240 And Joe Biden's complicit
00:19:12.400 in that because
00:19:13.220 it's not like some
00:19:14.140 private little spat
00:19:15.600 between a man
00:19:17.180 and his baby mama
00:19:18.360 and a child born
00:19:20.040 out of wedlock
00:19:20.760 and you say,
00:19:21.200 well, it's private life.
00:19:22.320 We're talking about
00:19:23.220 the granddaughter
00:19:23.680 of the president
00:19:24.240 of the United States.
00:19:24.960 Whether they want to
00:19:26.400 or not,
00:19:26.840 this is a public matter
00:19:29.200 that they have to address.
00:19:30.480 The little girl
00:19:30.960 is going to know
00:19:31.480 that her granddaddy
00:19:33.480 is the president
00:19:34.840 of the United States
00:19:35.460 and it's going
00:19:36.240 to traumatize her
00:19:37.320 if her granddaddy
00:19:38.700 is so ashamed of her
00:19:39.680 that he won't
00:19:40.220 acknowledge her existence.
00:19:41.420 And he's continued
00:19:42.780 that way for four years now.
00:19:45.160 The girl's almost
00:19:45.720 four years old.
00:19:46.800 So anyway,
00:19:47.340 now he finally says,
00:19:48.800 okay, I'm going to
00:19:49.140 acknowledge her.
00:19:49.820 Good on him.
00:19:50.540 Good on him.
00:19:51.080 Except he was only
00:19:51.780 bullied into it
00:19:52.560 by a liberal columnist
00:19:53.760 at the New York Times.
00:19:54.980 Maureen Dowd
00:19:55.800 wrote this column
00:19:56.580 that said
00:19:57.100 the president's
00:19:57.580 cold shoulder
00:19:58.120 and heart
00:19:58.660 is counter to
00:19:59.340 every message
00:19:59.860 he's sent for decades
00:20:00.840 and it's out of sync
00:20:01.880 with the America
00:20:02.460 he wants to continue
00:20:03.440 to lead.
00:20:04.300 Very true.
00:20:05.140 So he finally got
00:20:05.860 bullied into it
00:20:06.500 because as we've seen
00:20:07.420 in some other
00:20:07.880 campaign leaks,
00:20:08.740 this is becoming
00:20:09.340 a big political
00:20:10.020 liability for him.
00:20:10.940 And so he dumps
00:20:11.880 this news
00:20:12.300 on a Friday afternoon
00:20:13.400 via written statement.
00:20:15.020 I would not hold
00:20:16.160 my breath about him
00:20:17.020 keeping up his promise.
00:20:18.780 He's a dirty,
00:20:20.040 rotten liar.
00:20:20.700 That's been for his
00:20:21.580 whole political career.
00:20:22.640 And he somehow
00:20:23.220 made a bad situation,
00:20:24.340 even worse,
00:20:25.640 in the cynical way
00:20:26.900 that he's tried
00:20:27.640 to address
00:20:28.220 a basic aspect
00:20:31.120 of being
00:20:32.360 a decent human being.
00:20:34.660 Classic Joe Biden.
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00:21:46.880 Speaking of the president,
00:21:50.480 Joe Biden,
00:21:51.880 there's a new poll out
00:21:52.680 from Monmouth.
00:21:53.420 Almost half of Republicans
00:21:54.700 think that Donald Trump
00:21:56.060 is the strongest candidate
00:21:57.520 to take on Joe Biden.
00:22:00.180 That does not mean
00:22:01.440 that Trump is doing
00:22:02.440 really, really well
00:22:03.140 in the polls,
00:22:03.720 though he obviously is.
00:22:04.720 This is a different question.
00:22:05.760 Almost half of Republicans
00:22:09.380 think that Trump
00:22:10.120 is the strongest candidate
00:22:11.820 to take on Biden.
00:22:13.380 The argument thus far
00:22:15.020 for a DeSantis
00:22:16.120 or a Nikki Haley
00:22:16.960 or a Tim Scott
00:22:17.680 or a Mike Pence
00:22:18.340 or a Vivek Ramaswamy even
00:22:19.580 is, well, look,
00:22:22.420 the base likes Trump,
00:22:23.780 but he can't win the general.
00:22:26.300 Everyone knows
00:22:27.080 he can't win the general,
00:22:28.660 but unfortunately,
00:22:30.460 the way the primary process
00:22:31.520 is set up,
00:22:32.080 the far-right candidate
00:22:33.960 sometimes can win
00:22:35.260 the primary
00:22:35.860 and then will lose
00:22:37.580 the general
00:22:38.040 because a more moderate
00:22:39.620 candidate would do better
00:22:40.480 in the general.
00:22:41.020 Now, we covered
00:22:41.540 on the last show
00:22:42.280 moderate candidates
00:22:45.260 as the GOP nominee
00:22:46.980 have a much worse
00:22:48.800 track record
00:22:49.540 than the conservative
00:22:51.300 GOP nominees
00:22:52.740 for president.
00:22:53.840 Much worse.
00:22:54.680 Go back to the last show.
00:22:55.540 I won't go through
00:22:56.380 the litany again,
00:22:57.220 but going back
00:22:57.940 to Eisenhower,
00:22:59.320 after Eisenhower,
00:23:00.360 you see a much
00:23:01.800 stronger showing
00:23:02.660 from the conservative
00:23:03.560 nominees than from
00:23:04.620 the John McCain's
00:23:05.380 and the Mitt Romney's.
00:23:06.900 But furthermore,
00:23:08.660 this is now
00:23:09.420 another knock
00:23:10.820 on the DeSantis campaign
00:23:11.940 because the DeSantis campaign
00:23:12.840 can at least say,
00:23:13.480 look, maybe people
00:23:14.700 don't feel as passionately
00:23:15.780 about me
00:23:16.400 as they do about
00:23:17.420 Donald Trump,
00:23:18.080 but everyone knows
00:23:19.020 I'm more likely
00:23:19.840 to beat Joe Biden
00:23:20.640 than Trump is.
00:23:21.660 A poll like this
00:23:22.460 says, no,
00:23:23.320 the DeSantis campaign
00:23:24.480 has not convinced
00:23:25.700 Republicans of that.
00:23:28.360 So you got 45%
00:23:29.480 of GOP voters
00:23:30.280 view Trump
00:23:31.040 as definitely
00:23:31.820 the best candidate
00:23:32.680 to beat Biden.
00:23:34.020 In addition,
00:23:34.660 24% on top of that
00:23:36.640 say he is probably
00:23:37.800 the strongest candidate
00:23:38.840 to defeat,
00:23:40.440 to face Biden.
00:23:41.280 So this is
00:23:41.740 a huge number.
00:23:44.060 Only 13%
00:23:45.360 of Republicans
00:23:45.880 said definitely
00:23:46.760 another candidate
00:23:47.520 and only 18%
00:23:48.640 said another candidate
00:23:49.340 would probably
00:23:50.040 be stronger than Trump.
00:23:52.280 So you add
00:23:52.640 those numbers up,
00:23:53.520 all of a sudden
00:23:54.180 you're at 69%
00:23:56.640 say Trump is
00:23:57.400 definitely
00:23:58.200 or probably
00:23:58.720 the strongest candidate
00:23:59.700 and you get down here
00:24:01.180 to 31%
00:24:02.380 say that some
00:24:03.840 other candidate
00:24:04.520 is definitely
00:24:05.580 or probably
00:24:06.020 the strongest.
00:24:06.500 It's
00:24:06.880 something that
00:24:09.340 the talking class,
00:24:10.740 the punditariat,
00:24:11.580 the GOP establishment,
00:24:12.680 but even
00:24:13.020 the conservative
00:24:14.100 establishment,
00:24:15.300 which very often
00:24:16.220 lives in Washington,
00:24:17.220 D.C.
00:24:17.540 or New York
00:24:18.200 or even Los Angeles
00:24:19.640 and very often
00:24:20.680 occupy elite circles,
00:24:23.880 just the nature
00:24:24.840 of the business.
00:24:26.660 They don't seem
00:24:27.700 to recognize
00:24:28.260 very often
00:24:28.900 Trump changes
00:24:30.460 the calculus.
00:24:31.780 It's not just
00:24:32.540 a matter of
00:24:33.080 policy positions.
00:24:34.560 It's not just
00:24:35.160 a matter of
00:24:35.820 going to
00:24:36.780 Ballotopedia
00:24:37.520 and seeing
00:24:38.100 where the candidates
00:24:38.700 stand on the issues.
00:24:39.660 He's just
00:24:40.180 a different
00:24:40.840 kind of animal.
00:24:43.200 He talks
00:24:43.760 different,
00:24:44.160 he walks
00:24:44.560 different,
00:24:44.960 he's got a
00:24:45.340 different background
00:24:45.960 and he appeals
00:24:46.500 to different people
00:24:47.140 and he turns
00:24:48.720 off certain
00:24:49.660 voters
00:24:50.100 who the
00:24:51.360 more
00:24:52.360 clubbable
00:24:53.360 kind of
00:24:53.720 Republicans
00:24:54.100 sometimes
00:24:55.280 can impress,
00:24:56.720 but he also
00:24:57.620 attracts
00:24:58.380 voters
00:24:59.500 that the
00:25:01.080 more clubbable
00:25:01.580 Republicans
00:25:02.140 have never
00:25:03.680 been able
00:25:04.020 to impress
00:25:04.380 or haven't
00:25:04.740 been able
00:25:05.000 to impress
00:25:05.420 since Ronald
00:25:06.720 Reagan.
00:25:07.700 So what does
00:25:08.340 this mean
00:25:08.580 for the rest
00:25:08.960 of the field?
00:25:09.560 Well,
00:25:09.700 the rest
00:25:09.900 of the field
00:25:10.160 is going
00:25:10.320 to keep
00:25:10.500 on fighting
00:25:10.860 including
00:25:11.260 the number
00:25:12.280 two guy
00:25:12.620 right now,
00:25:13.040 Ron DeSantis,
00:25:13.540 who just
00:25:13.960 came out
00:25:14.540 to attack
00:25:15.700 the clubbable
00:25:16.960 Republicans.
00:25:18.220 If you
00:25:18.820 can't stand
00:25:19.560 up for the
00:25:20.380 protection of
00:25:21.080 children,
00:25:21.680 then what good
00:25:22.300 are you as
00:25:22.800 a governor?
00:25:23.300 I mean,
00:25:23.560 honestly,
00:25:24.100 this is just
00:25:25.280 nonsense.
00:25:30.460 These are
00:25:30.900 like these
00:25:31.400 chamber of
00:25:31.980 commerce
00:25:32.380 Republicans,
00:25:33.640 you know,
00:25:33.980 whatever the
00:25:34.600 corporations
00:25:35.200 want,
00:25:35.860 they bow
00:25:36.600 down to,
00:25:37.480 and that
00:25:37.980 doesn't work
00:25:38.820 in a free
00:25:39.740 society.
00:25:40.380 It doesn't
00:25:41.280 work to have
00:25:41.940 a just
00:25:42.340 society,
00:25:42.960 because corporate
00:25:43.980 America,
00:25:44.600 unfortunately,
00:25:45.440 has become
00:25:45.960 polluted with
00:25:47.220 ideology,
00:25:48.280 and they're
00:25:48.760 pursuing agendas,
00:25:50.100 and the
00:25:50.520 sexualization of
00:25:51.560 children is
00:25:52.260 wrong.
00:25:53.260 And we
00:25:53.640 are going
00:25:53.900 to do
00:25:54.140 battle with
00:25:54.760 anybody that's
00:25:55.440 seeking to
00:25:55.880 rob our
00:25:56.260 children of
00:25:57.060 their
00:25:57.220 innocence.
00:25:58.140 Great line.
00:25:59.260 I love it.
00:25:59.880 I love that
00:26:00.540 DeSantis is
00:26:01.220 going after the
00:26:01.980 chamber of
00:26:02.440 commerce
00:26:02.940 Republicans.
00:26:04.260 It's a
00:26:04.940 reminder that
00:26:05.580 Ron DeSantis,
00:26:07.120 even though now
00:26:07.960 because he's
00:26:08.620 running against
00:26:09.260 Trump,
00:26:10.000 he is attracting
00:26:11.060 a number of
00:26:11.620 establishment
00:26:12.100 people to
00:26:12.800 support him.
00:26:13.440 Ron DeSantis
00:26:16.060 in his
00:26:17.460 political
00:26:18.100 outlook and
00:26:18.800 promises and
00:26:19.500 campaign platform
00:26:20.300 is much
00:26:21.920 closer to
00:26:22.580 Donald Trump
00:26:23.240 than he is
00:26:24.820 to Mitt
00:26:25.940 Romney or
00:26:26.960 John McCain
00:26:27.700 or the
00:26:28.520 Bushes or
00:26:30.300 maybe even
00:26:31.060 Ronald Reagan.
00:26:34.860 Ron DeSantis
00:26:35.860 is running a
00:26:37.720 populist,
00:26:38.620 anti-corporate,
00:26:39.500 anti-big
00:26:39.960 business campaign.
00:26:42.040 This means
00:26:43.100 that all of
00:26:44.900 the top
00:26:45.320 GOP candidates
00:26:46.240 right now
00:26:46.800 are running
00:26:47.820 against the
00:26:48.760 chamber of
00:26:49.200 commerce.
00:26:51.020 A lot of
00:26:51.900 the GOP
00:26:52.260 candidates are
00:26:52.920 running
00:26:53.380 while
00:26:56.080 placating the
00:26:57.320 chamber of
00:26:57.660 commerce.
00:26:58.340 Mike Pence
00:26:59.140 most clearly
00:26:59.900 said,
00:27:00.300 well look,
00:27:00.580 we support
00:27:01.240 business.
00:27:01.700 We don't
00:27:01.840 want to be
00:27:02.080 against
00:27:02.300 business
00:27:02.620 when he
00:27:02.860 was attacking
00:27:03.340 Ron DeSantis.
00:27:04.640 But Mike
00:27:05.060 Pence and
00:27:06.180 basically all
00:27:07.540 of the
00:27:07.840 candidates below
00:27:09.000 Mike Pence in
00:27:09.640 the polls,
00:27:10.180 they're all
00:27:10.800 running as
00:27:11.260 the kind
00:27:11.520 of pro
00:27:11.860 business,
00:27:12.420 pro chamber,
00:27:13.440 typical country
00:27:14.360 club GOP that
00:27:15.040 you've seen.
00:27:16.240 The top three
00:27:17.140 candidates right
00:27:17.740 now,
00:27:18.480 Trump,
00:27:19.340 DeSantis,
00:27:20.000 and Vivek
00:27:20.380 Ramaswamy are
00:27:21.460 all actively,
00:27:23.440 explicitly running
00:27:24.400 against the
00:27:25.820 chamber of
00:27:26.160 commerce and
00:27:26.660 big business.
00:27:27.280 That is a
00:27:27.740 major shift in
00:27:28.740 the GOP in
00:27:29.560 my lifetime and
00:27:30.560 that's a shift
00:27:31.140 for the better
00:27:32.040 because we're
00:27:33.360 recognizing that
00:27:34.140 there's more to
00:27:35.380 life than just
00:27:36.160 ticking up the
00:27:36.680 GDP numbers and
00:27:37.720 a strong economy
00:27:38.440 is good but a
00:27:39.760 strong economy is
00:27:40.400 not the be-all
00:27:40.900 and end-all because
00:27:41.540 if you make that
00:27:42.120 the absolute end
00:27:43.000 of politics as
00:27:44.300 many in the
00:27:45.280 establishment and
00:27:46.100 libertarian camp
00:27:46.860 had done for
00:27:48.120 the 90s and
00:27:49.000 the 2000s and
00:27:49.880 into the 20-teens
00:27:50.700 then we're no
00:27:51.820 different than the
00:27:52.440 mammon-worshipping
00:27:53.220 materialists that we
00:27:54.300 mock on the left and
00:27:55.240 that we're fighting
00:27:55.740 against.
00:27:56.740 You want a good
00:27:58.740 economy, that's a
00:27:59.880 very valuable thing
00:28:00.920 in society but you
00:28:01.600 don't want to put
00:28:02.820 the cart before the
00:28:03.460 horse.
00:28:04.860 You want the good
00:28:05.660 economy in service
00:28:06.820 of a good country and
00:28:08.140 if the corporations
00:28:08.840 are undermining the
00:28:11.160 values and the
00:28:12.060 behaviors and the
00:28:12.700 traditions and the
00:28:13.420 virtues of your
00:28:13.920 country, well then
00:28:14.880 they need to be
00:28:15.460 brought into line.
00:28:17.140 We need to
00:28:17.520 recognize that the
00:28:18.580 market exists for us
00:28:19.560 to have a good
00:28:19.900 society.
00:28:20.700 Our society does not
00:28:21.740 exist to serve the
00:28:23.160 market.
00:28:23.880 Now what about that
00:28:24.460 third candidate,
00:28:25.120 Vivek Ramaswamy?
00:28:26.200 Vivek is a little
00:28:27.020 different from Trump
00:28:28.580 and DeSantis in that
00:28:30.280 Vivek is trying to
00:28:31.600 cut a middle ground
00:28:32.780 between the new
00:28:35.100 more nationalist,
00:28:37.480 more populist,
00:28:39.020 anti-corporate
00:28:40.220 spirit of the GOP.
00:28:44.380 Obviously Vivek wrote
00:28:45.060 a book called
00:28:45.560 Woke Inc.
00:28:46.820 and is regularly
00:28:48.700 described as the
00:28:49.460 anti-woke businessman.
00:28:51.680 So he's got that
00:28:53.380 part going for him.
00:28:54.960 But he's also trying
00:28:56.180 to preserve some of
00:28:57.560 the classically liberal
00:28:59.540 libertarian tendencies
00:29:00.840 of the GOP in the
00:29:01.920 last 10 to 30 years.
00:29:03.960 So Vivek just came
00:29:05.220 out and urged more
00:29:06.900 free trade and more
00:29:08.560 legal migration.
00:29:10.420 The CPTPP, I think
00:29:12.220 we should re-enter it.
00:29:13.540 I think this is a
00:29:14.220 little bit different
00:29:14.680 than what, you know,
00:29:16.340 the course of action
00:29:16.940 taken by Trump and
00:29:17.720 exiting the TPP.
00:29:18.600 I think that was
00:29:18.940 actually a poor
00:29:20.160 decision.
00:29:20.760 I think that I can
00:29:22.120 use the leverage of
00:29:23.280 the fact that we did
00:29:23.980 exit it to be able to
00:29:25.600 say, all right,
00:29:26.280 here's what we need
00:29:26.860 done differently in a
00:29:27.820 number of the
00:29:28.240 countries from Japan on
00:29:29.500 down to be able to
00:29:30.820 say, here's how we
00:29:31.520 re-enter that on
00:29:32.240 fairer terms.
00:29:33.480 And so that's what
00:29:33.920 I'd like to see.
00:29:34.600 That puts us in then
00:29:35.420 a strong position from
00:29:36.680 a trade perspective to
00:29:37.600 then take a look at
00:29:38.600 where we stand vis-a-vis
00:29:39.340 China.
00:29:39.720 So I could go on for
00:29:40.780 hours on this one.
00:29:41.560 So we want to remain
00:29:42.280 really merit-focused.
00:29:44.360 We want to obviously,
00:29:45.160 I think, try to attract
00:29:46.520 the people from around
00:29:48.180 the world who are also
00:29:48.980 merit-focused and wish
00:29:50.240 to join the country.
00:29:51.980 And we should make it
00:29:52.740 much easier for them to
00:29:53.700 join.
00:29:54.560 I agree with that.
00:29:55.480 I actually fully agree
00:29:56.420 with that.
00:29:56.700 And that's one of the
00:29:58.620 things where I think
00:29:59.560 the Republican Party
00:30:01.280 needs to define where
00:30:02.460 we actually stand.
00:30:03.760 There is an anti-legal
00:30:05.860 immigration current
00:30:07.020 that, you know,
00:30:08.420 which I'm going to be
00:30:10.020 on the debate stage
00:30:11.060 in a month.
00:30:11.520 And this is going to be
00:30:12.100 something that if
00:30:12.660 anybody has any
00:30:14.840 qualms with this,
00:30:16.520 you know, I think I'm
00:30:17.300 going to have a real
00:30:17.660 problem with that
00:30:18.460 because merit-based
00:30:20.120 immigration is one
00:30:21.920 of the fixes to
00:30:22.860 economic growth in this
00:30:23.940 country.
00:30:24.340 So he's right about
00:30:25.980 that last part.
00:30:28.820 Mass migration,
00:30:29.920 mass legal migration
00:30:30.820 has been in service
00:30:33.180 of keeping the economy
00:30:34.320 afloat because people
00:30:34.920 aren't having kids
00:30:35.540 anymore.
00:30:35.860 And that's true not
00:30:36.360 just in America,
00:30:37.000 it's true throughout
00:30:37.660 the West.
00:30:38.380 But that's still a
00:30:39.640 problem.
00:30:40.740 It's a problem because
00:30:41.980 if you just flood your
00:30:42.800 country with foreigners
00:30:43.580 and you don't assimilate
00:30:44.520 them as we haven't been
00:30:45.280 able to do in 50 years,
00:30:46.440 then you're going to
00:30:47.240 lose the things that
00:30:48.220 distinguish your country.
00:30:49.660 Also because there's
00:30:50.820 more to a country than
00:30:51.920 just keeping the GDP
00:30:52.840 up.
00:30:53.300 Though, of course,
00:30:54.460 you don't want the
00:30:54.900 economy to collapse.
00:30:57.500 But this is an issue
00:31:00.140 that probably won't
00:31:00.640 come up on the debate
00:31:01.320 stage because none
00:31:02.520 of the candidates,
00:31:03.780 as far as I can tell,
00:31:05.600 support a reduction
00:31:06.840 in legal migration.
00:31:08.260 They all say we want
00:31:08.700 to end illegal
00:31:09.360 immigration, but we
00:31:10.160 want a lot of legal
00:31:12.060 immigration.
00:31:12.720 Trump himself,
00:31:13.960 who's the most
00:31:14.320 anti-immigrant major
00:31:15.480 candidate in my lifetime,
00:31:16.820 he said we want more
00:31:18.220 legal immigration than
00:31:19.640 ever.
00:31:20.340 And this is a problem,
00:31:22.100 one, because I think
00:31:23.060 it not only threatens
00:31:25.860 national identity and
00:31:28.240 cultural coherence and
00:31:30.280 the notion that we're
00:31:31.380 actually a country
00:31:32.200 defined by borders with
00:31:34.580 a real citizenry that's
00:31:36.840 distinct from foreigners,
00:31:38.600 but two, because the
00:31:40.960 majority of Americans want
00:31:42.700 to drastically reduce
00:31:43.820 immigration.
00:31:44.580 They don't usually say it
00:31:45.580 in those terms.
00:31:46.200 They won't say,
00:31:46.700 I'm anti-legal
00:31:47.520 immigrant.
00:31:48.000 If you just ask them
00:31:48.720 that question, do you want
00:31:49.620 more or less legal
00:31:50.360 immigration?
00:31:51.020 They'll often say more
00:31:52.300 or keep it the same.
00:31:53.540 But if you ask them,
00:31:54.500 what do you think would
00:31:54.980 be a good number for
00:31:56.800 migration?
00:31:58.380 Then you find out,
00:31:59.620 and there was a famous
00:32:01.000 Harvard-Harris poll that
00:32:01.800 came out a few years ago
00:32:02.700 on this point.
00:32:03.620 You find out that people
00:32:04.400 want drastically lower
00:32:05.740 immigration, like 60%
00:32:07.060 lower, legal and
00:32:08.120 illegal.
00:32:09.320 Because very often people
00:32:10.840 will say, well, about
00:32:11.540 half a million people a
00:32:12.420 year.
00:32:12.680 And that's nowhere near
00:32:13.600 what we've got.
00:32:14.020 We've got double that just
00:32:15.580 in terms of legal
00:32:16.300 immigration.
00:32:16.740 And then this year alone
00:32:17.800 we're going to have over
00:32:18.700 three and a half million
00:32:19.500 people apprehended crossing
00:32:21.880 the border illegally.
00:32:23.280 Who knows what the real
00:32:24.180 number is?
00:32:25.220 So now you're talking
00:32:25.840 about a huge, huge number.
00:32:31.160 No candidate is speaking
00:32:32.440 to that right now.
00:32:33.220 I think if a candidate did
00:32:34.200 say, look, it's nothing
00:32:35.480 against foreigners, it's
00:32:36.640 nothing against people from
00:32:37.420 all sorts of cultures, but
00:32:38.440 our culture is collapsing
00:32:40.080 and we have very little
00:32:41.260 that unifies us anymore,
00:32:42.260 including even the same
00:32:43.020 language.
00:32:43.420 We don't even really speak
00:32:44.020 the same language anymore.
00:32:44.860 We need, as we have done
00:32:46.780 in American history a
00:32:47.940 number of times, we need
00:32:49.300 to drastically reduce all
00:32:51.160 immigration in order to
00:32:52.960 regain some sense of
00:32:54.260 coherence and cohesion for
00:32:55.340 our people.
00:32:56.300 And then in 50 or 60 years
00:32:57.400 maybe we can open it back
00:32:58.360 up a little bit again.
00:33:00.060 What does this mean for
00:33:00.720 the race?
00:33:01.200 It means that Vivek is
00:33:02.160 trying to cut more of that
00:33:03.700 classically liberal view
00:33:07.760 while still maintaining
00:33:09.300 populist and nationalist
00:33:10.540 cred.
00:33:11.840 The migration issue won't
00:33:13.140 hurt him because nobody is
00:33:14.340 talking about reducing
00:33:15.860 legal immigration,
00:33:16.800 unfortunately.
00:33:18.020 The free trade issue
00:33:19.100 might because Trump has
00:33:20.100 now come out and said,
00:33:21.020 I'm running on
00:33:22.500 mercantilism for the
00:33:23.320 21st century.
00:33:24.180 I'm running on
00:33:25.060 protective tariffs, not
00:33:26.400 merely as an instrument to
00:33:27.440 get good free trade deals,
00:33:28.460 but as a good in and of
00:33:29.540 themselves.
00:33:30.780 Ron DeSantis has been a
00:33:31.920 little unclear on this.
00:33:33.160 We don't quite know
00:33:33.840 exactly where he stands on
00:33:35.340 this issue of trade.
00:33:36.700 And now Vivek is saying,
00:33:37.460 no, I'm still a free
00:33:38.780 trader.
00:33:39.860 And maybe it's a smart
00:33:42.400 move for Vivek in that it
00:33:44.340 allows him to distinguish
00:33:45.380 himself from the other top
00:33:46.600 candidates in the field.
00:33:47.400 And now we have to start
00:33:48.280 talking about Vivek, who
00:33:49.440 everybody said, oh, he came
00:33:50.660 out of nowhere.
00:33:51.060 No one knows who he is.
00:33:52.420 He is now becoming a top
00:33:54.380 candidate in this field,
00:33:56.160 albeit in a field that is
00:33:57.520 dominated by one candidate
00:33:59.620 over all of the others.
00:34:00.960 But this is going to be a
00:34:02.220 test in 2024.
00:34:03.540 How populist has the GOP
00:34:05.420 become?
00:34:05.820 How traditionally
00:34:07.220 conservative has the GOP
00:34:08.800 become?
00:34:09.140 Don't forget, the GOP was
00:34:09.860 founded on protective
00:34:10.660 tariffs.
00:34:11.380 Conservatives traditionally
00:34:12.660 have been the pro-tariff,
00:34:14.520 pro-protectionism group of
00:34:16.480 people in politics.
00:34:17.860 And the liberals have been
00:34:19.000 the free traders.
00:34:20.520 So that shifted a little
00:34:21.880 bit at the end of the
00:34:22.400 20th century.
00:34:23.400 This is going to be a
00:34:24.180 test.
00:34:25.740 How conservative is this
00:34:27.580 conservative swinging of
00:34:28.760 the pendulum really going
00:34:30.660 to be?
00:34:32.140 Now, speaking of woke
00:34:33.160 corporations, are you sick
00:34:34.640 of woke corporations
00:34:35.420 dragging your values
00:34:36.540 through the mud?
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00:34:44.920 not to mention it smells
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00:34:49.880 Not only is it paraben-free,
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00:34:54.720 for that matter.
00:34:55.440 Plus, it's not tested on
00:34:56.980 animals, and it's made
00:34:58.080 right here in the USA.
00:34:59.760 What more could you want
00:35:01.240 from your hand soap than
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00:35:04.020 keeping a clean conscience?
00:35:05.420 So do yourself a favor
00:35:06.540 and wash your hands of
00:35:07.800 hypocritical libs once and
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00:35:10.380 Jeremy's hand soap is the
00:35:11.260 ideal addition to your
00:35:12.920 bathroom or kitchen sink
00:35:14.060 as you liberate your home
00:35:15.500 of the influence of woke
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00:35:19.360 and order your green tea
00:35:21.080 and citrus hand soap
00:35:22.400 today.
00:35:24.060 My favorite comment on
00:35:25.200 Friday is from
00:35:25.600 Cheesemunk3y127,
00:35:27.660 who says,
00:35:28.980 I used to believe in aliens
00:35:30.420 until the government said
00:35:32.100 they were real.
00:35:33.140 Great observation.
00:35:36.120 It's just so fake, guys.
00:35:39.360 Aliens are angels and demons
00:35:41.600 for liberals.
00:35:43.020 That's all.
00:35:43.700 That's all it is.
00:35:45.140 Probably mostly just demons.
00:35:47.480 That's what it is.
00:35:48.780 That's what it is, man.
00:35:50.700 Okay.
00:35:51.120 Before we move on from 2024,
00:35:52.680 just a quick button here,
00:35:54.040 because there's
00:35:55.360 good news,
00:35:57.920 potentially good news,
00:35:58.940 for one of the
00:36:00.180 not top candidates,
00:36:02.200 for Mike Pence,
00:36:03.620 who's had a really rough
00:36:05.120 launch to the campaign,
00:36:06.620 who had a really rough
00:36:08.060 town hall with
00:36:09.180 Tucker Carlson.
00:36:11.680 He may
00:36:12.800 have a glimmer of hope here
00:36:15.120 to move back up
00:36:16.380 into the race.
00:36:17.620 And it is because
00:36:18.740 Mike Pence over the weekend
00:36:19.760 vowed
00:36:20.400 to reinstate the trans
00:36:22.680 ban in the military.
00:36:24.040 We can embrace our role
00:36:25.820 as leader of the free world,
00:36:28.200 confront Russian aggression
00:36:29.520 and Chinese provocations
00:36:31.280 with a new military
00:36:33.000 fitted to the challenges
00:36:34.240 in the 21st century.
00:36:35.860 And we can
00:36:36.720 end the political correctness
00:36:39.080 at the Pentagon,
00:36:40.640 including
00:36:41.160 reinstituting a ban
00:36:43.320 on transgender personnel
00:36:45.180 in the United States military.
00:36:48.280 There you have it.
00:36:50.280 Now,
00:36:50.920 I think
00:36:52.600 I'm allowed to keep
00:36:53.820 this part of the show
00:36:54.540 on YouTube.
00:36:55.080 You know,
00:36:55.240 YouTube gets very touchy
00:36:56.300 when I talk about
00:36:57.280 important social issues
00:36:58.500 that are still being
00:36:59.380 debated right now.
00:37:00.200 You can talk about issues
00:37:01.200 that are not being
00:37:01.840 debated anymore,
00:37:02.580 that the libs have already won,
00:37:03.500 but you're not allowed
00:37:04.160 to talk about ones
00:37:04.740 that are still hot.
00:37:05.580 So,
00:37:06.100 I think we can keep
00:37:07.680 this part on YouTube
00:37:08.820 because
00:37:09.260 I'm just observing
00:37:11.180 Pence's
00:37:12.920 candidacy.
00:37:15.320 Pence comes out
00:37:15.920 and says,
00:37:16.180 I want to reinstitute
00:37:16.880 the trans ban
00:37:17.500 in the military.
00:37:18.860 It reminds me
00:37:19.940 that Pence's
00:37:20.600 best shot
00:37:22.380 in this race,
00:37:23.480 which probably won't work,
00:37:25.280 but I think it's
00:37:25.880 his best shot,
00:37:27.240 is to be
00:37:28.180 the hardcore
00:37:29.600 social conservative.
00:37:32.180 Trump is not really
00:37:33.440 a hardcore
00:37:34.020 social conservative.
00:37:35.620 Practically speaking,
00:37:36.900 he's more socially
00:37:37.580 conservative than
00:37:38.440 any president
00:37:38.940 in my lifetime
00:37:39.520 and most other
00:37:40.740 GOP candidates,
00:37:42.320 maybe all of them.
00:37:42.980 but
00:37:43.960 he's a little
00:37:46.160 open
00:37:47.320 on the rainbow stuff.
00:37:49.440 He's a little
00:37:50.300 ambiguous
00:37:51.900 on some of those issues.
00:37:54.120 He's a billionaire
00:37:54.880 from New York,
00:37:55.480 what do you expect?
00:37:57.940 Pence
00:37:58.340 has
00:37:58.800 made his early career
00:38:00.340 as a hardcore
00:38:01.300 social conservative.
00:38:03.280 Right now,
00:38:03.940 you don't totally see
00:38:04.880 that represented
00:38:05.500 in the race.
00:38:05.940 As we just said,
00:38:06.760 Vivek is
00:38:07.720 this great
00:38:09.340 kind of shake-it-up
00:38:10.280 out-of-left-field
00:38:11.000 candidate,
00:38:12.440 but he's still
00:38:12.840 got a little bit
00:38:13.240 of that
00:38:13.440 classical liberalism
00:38:14.320 to him.
00:38:15.880 DeSantis
00:38:16.400 is pretty
00:38:18.640 socially conservative,
00:38:20.700 but still,
00:38:21.840 a really
00:38:22.260 hardcore
00:38:22.700 social conservative
00:38:23.560 could knock
00:38:24.400 DeSantis
00:38:24.820 for the education
00:38:25.980 bill in Florida
00:38:26.540 saying,
00:38:27.860 well,
00:38:28.020 hold on,
00:38:28.660 your education
00:38:29.380 bill just
00:38:30.460 debated whether
00:38:31.320 to introduce
00:38:32.480 a transgender
00:38:33.000 curriculum in
00:38:33.880 third grade
00:38:34.260 or fourth grade?
00:38:34.900 What?
00:38:35.120 Come on,
00:38:35.500 that's weak
00:38:36.240 stuff, man.
00:38:37.000 Now,
00:38:37.640 DeSantis
00:38:37.920 could come back
00:38:38.420 and say,
00:38:38.700 well,
00:38:38.800 don't worry,
00:38:39.100 we expanded
00:38:39.520 that later on
00:38:40.200 and we've been
00:38:40.900 practically more
00:38:41.500 effective on this
00:38:42.120 issue than anyone
00:38:43.000 else in the
00:38:43.400 country.
00:38:43.760 So he's got a
00:38:44.280 good answer for it,
00:38:44.860 but there's an
00:38:45.360 opening there
00:38:45.900 is what I'm
00:38:46.220 saying.
00:38:46.960 And the only
00:38:48.360 opening I see
00:38:49.180 right now
00:38:49.680 is that one.
00:38:53.100 What Pence
00:38:53.920 staked his
00:38:54.700 campaign on,
00:38:55.520 and you saw it
00:38:55.960 in the opening
00:38:56.320 video and you
00:38:57.140 saw it in a lot
00:38:58.600 of his campaign
00:38:59.640 since then,
00:39:00.640 is I'm going to
00:39:01.780 be the return
00:39:02.380 to normal,
00:39:03.220 I just want to
00:39:03.900 get along with
00:39:04.540 business as usual
00:39:05.500 and support
00:39:06.440 corporations and
00:39:07.480 just be a nice
00:39:08.080 normal Republican
00:39:08.740 kind of campaign.
00:39:09.300 completely dead
00:39:10.580 in the water,
00:39:11.140 man.
00:39:11.340 That's going
00:39:11.800 nowhere.
00:39:13.060 Your only
00:39:13.600 light,
00:39:14.780 your only
00:39:15.320 chance here
00:39:16.340 is to double
00:39:17.100 out on this
00:39:17.760 kind of stuff.
00:39:18.280 So he might
00:39:19.200 have recognized
00:39:20.820 that.
00:39:22.060 And if he
00:39:22.820 wants the
00:39:23.180 campaign to
00:39:23.680 remain in
00:39:24.000 any way viable,
00:39:24.580 I think he's
00:39:25.020 got to pursue
00:39:25.420 that further.
00:39:27.520 All right,
00:39:27.760 now for the
00:39:28.120 part that I
00:39:28.500 can't keep
00:39:28.900 on YouTube.
00:39:30.700 A transgender
00:39:31.680 activist is
00:39:33.780 threatening to
00:39:34.540 dismember a
00:39:35.760 school board
00:39:36.180 president and
00:39:36.960 kill her entire
00:39:37.680 family and her
00:39:38.440 children.
00:39:39.300 Because the
00:39:41.760 school board
00:39:42.340 president is
00:39:45.340 supporting a
00:39:47.220 policy that
00:39:48.540 would require
00:39:49.260 schools to
00:39:50.800 notify parents
00:39:52.160 if their kids
00:39:53.800 want to switch
00:39:54.380 genders, which
00:39:56.220 is of course not
00:39:56.820 possible, but
00:39:57.360 some people
00:39:57.680 pretend it's
00:39:58.100 possible.
00:39:59.720 So I know
00:40:01.260 there's a lot
00:40:01.700 of layers to
00:40:02.300 that.
00:40:03.220 School board
00:40:03.580 president, this
00:40:04.400 lady by the
00:40:05.400 name of, what's
00:40:05.980 her name?
00:40:06.780 Sonia Shaw.
00:40:08.240 She leads the
00:40:09.140 Chino Valley
00:40:09.860 school board in
00:40:10.720 Riverside County
00:40:11.320 in SoCal.
00:40:13.900 Sonia is not
00:40:15.120 saying don't
00:40:15.720 trans the kids.
00:40:16.780 Sonia is not
00:40:17.780 saying get the
00:40:18.460 LGBT propaganda
00:40:19.260 out of schools.
00:40:20.100 Sonia is not
00:40:20.580 saying perfectly
00:40:22.020 normal things that
00:40:23.140 would have been
00:40:23.580 mainstream in both
00:40:24.380 parties even 10
00:40:25.140 years ago.
00:40:26.600 Sonia is just
00:40:27.460 saying, hey, if
00:40:28.420 you're going to
00:40:29.140 trans the kids,
00:40:30.680 maybe you have
00:40:31.720 to let their
00:40:33.160 parents know at
00:40:34.880 some point.
00:40:36.520 And for this, a
00:40:38.960 transgender activist
00:40:39.880 called the
00:40:40.280 district and
00:40:41.500 said that he
00:40:43.400 was going to
00:40:44.180 kill her and
00:40:45.740 dismember her
00:40:46.700 body parts, her
00:40:48.160 limbs specifically,
00:40:49.680 and kill her
00:40:50.960 children and
00:40:51.560 pets in
00:40:53.200 retaliation.
00:40:54.240 And there's a
00:40:54.860 kind of artistry
00:40:56.460 to this threat.
00:40:57.700 There's a really
00:40:58.460 clever parallelism
00:40:59.660 because what the
00:41:00.420 threat amounts to
00:41:01.320 is, let us
00:41:04.380 dismember
00:41:05.120 children or we
00:41:06.800 will dismember
00:41:07.480 you.
00:41:08.840 That's kind of
00:41:09.640 clever.
00:41:10.080 I don't know if it
00:41:10.520 was totally
00:41:10.920 conscious, but
00:41:11.860 it doesn't seem
00:41:14.240 great.
00:41:15.780 So, not exactly
00:41:16.840 unexpected.
00:41:18.160 People who are
00:41:18.880 obviously deeply
00:41:19.960 mentally disturbed
00:41:20.840 doing things that
00:41:22.220 deeply mentally
00:41:22.860 disturbed people
00:41:23.520 do.
00:41:24.040 Not exactly a
00:41:26.140 man bites dog
00:41:27.000 story here.
00:41:29.600 It's a man who
00:41:30.660 identifies as a
00:41:31.300 woman biting a
00:41:32.160 school board
00:41:32.540 president story.
00:41:34.900 This is what all
00:41:36.160 politics is going
00:41:37.180 to be if we
00:41:38.900 don't nip this
00:41:39.720 stuff in the
00:41:40.480 bud.
00:41:43.240 The transgender
00:41:44.260 issue is so
00:41:45.300 hot and alive
00:41:46.680 because not
00:41:48.820 only is it
00:41:49.640 about sex,
00:41:50.440 which always
00:41:51.220 makes headlines,
00:41:52.400 not only is it
00:41:53.740 about children
00:41:55.420 and threatening
00:41:58.020 children and
00:41:58.980 ruining their
00:41:59.380 lives, which
00:42:00.600 the story is.
00:42:02.680 It's because
00:42:03.520 it's about
00:42:04.420 whether or not
00:42:05.800 the regime
00:42:06.460 can insist
00:42:07.820 upon obvious
00:42:09.360 falsehood
00:42:10.140 in public life
00:42:12.500 and make you
00:42:12.940 assent to it.
00:42:13.740 That's what it's
00:42:14.320 about.
00:42:15.380 It's about
00:42:16.220 can the regime
00:42:17.560 make you lie
00:42:19.200 and make all of
00:42:20.460 us tell lies,
00:42:21.160 lies that all of
00:42:21.880 us, even the
00:42:22.380 pro-trans people,
00:42:23.380 know to be lies.
00:42:24.900 Everybody knows a
00:42:25.720 man can't really be a
00:42:26.400 woman.
00:42:26.700 Everybody knows it.
00:42:27.400 That's why this
00:42:28.540 issue is so
00:42:29.040 powerful.
00:42:31.040 And the
00:42:31.320 problem with
00:42:31.840 that is, if
00:42:32.540 you allow that
00:42:33.900 to happen, if
00:42:34.620 you establish
00:42:35.260 obvious falsehood
00:42:36.200 in your
00:42:36.980 politics, then
00:42:38.360 you remove the
00:42:39.160 ability for
00:42:40.040 civil discourse
00:42:40.840 and reasonable
00:42:41.920 debate in
00:42:42.600 politics because
00:42:43.860 reason has to
00:42:44.800 go out the
00:42:45.160 window because
00:42:46.040 your politics is
00:42:46.800 no longer
00:42:47.280 grounded in
00:42:48.120 truth.
00:42:48.420 It's merely
00:42:49.200 grounded in
00:42:50.100 interest and
00:42:52.720 fantasy and
00:42:53.680 desire, which
00:42:54.880 will be enforced
00:42:55.600 not through
00:42:56.300 reason because
00:42:56.880 you have
00:42:57.120 nothing objective
00:42:58.520 by which to
00:43:00.100 conduct a civil
00:43:01.040 debate.
00:43:01.720 It can only be
00:43:03.100 fought over by
00:43:04.840 violence.
00:43:06.420 That's the end
00:43:07.200 result.
00:43:07.880 That's why as
00:43:08.600 politics becomes
00:43:09.360 less recognizing
00:43:12.520 of reason, less
00:43:14.520 able to discern
00:43:15.440 truth from
00:43:15.860 falsehood, or
00:43:16.780 less willing to
00:43:17.400 discern truth from
00:43:17.940 falsehood, politics
00:43:19.000 is going to
00:43:19.860 become more
00:43:21.160 violent.
00:43:22.640 And you think
00:43:23.220 that call about
00:43:24.240 dismembering ladies
00:43:25.460 entire family, for
00:43:27.400 even modestly
00:43:27.980 opposing
00:43:28.360 transgenderism, is
00:43:30.080 intense.
00:43:32.800 Just wait until
00:43:34.480 those policies go
00:43:35.340 into effect.
00:43:37.120 Today's Music
00:43:37.720 Monday, baby.
00:43:38.660 And it's
00:43:39.400 Mailbag Monday, a
00:43:40.400 little bit of
00:43:40.700 mailbag, because
00:43:41.280 on Friday, back
00:43:42.760 when I was still
00:43:43.260 in Hungary, I
00:43:44.840 didn't get to as
00:43:45.320 much of the
00:43:45.600 mailbag as I
00:43:46.060 wanted.
00:43:46.620 There were a few
00:43:46.960 questions.
00:43:47.260 I didn't get to
00:43:47.640 any of the
00:43:47.940 written mailbag
00:43:48.320 questions, so
00:43:48.680 we're going to
00:43:48.860 get to a few
00:43:49.280 of them.
00:43:49.580 We're going to
00:43:49.800 get my iPad.
00:43:50.440 Whenever Professor
00:43:51.140 Jacob gets me
00:43:52.060 my iPad, where
00:43:52.940 is it?
00:43:53.840 And we're going to
00:43:54.360 get to whatever
00:43:55.020 the song is
00:43:55.560 today.
00:43:56.440 But only if
00:43:57.240 you're a member
00:43:57.680 of the
00:43:57.980 inner circle of
00:43:59.840 this show.
00:44:00.480 If you're a
00:44:00.960 hoi polloi on
00:44:02.360 YouTube, then you
00:44:03.160 don't get it, man.
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00:44:19.960 actually.
00:44:20.800 Thank you.