The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 1306 - The FBI's Attack On Catholics Was Worse Than We Thought


Summary

In February, a leaked FBI memo revealed that the agency spied on Catholics, and encouraged agents to spy on them. Now, a committee investigating the matter has found that the memo was written by a single field office, not a team of field offices. Will the FBI Director Christopher Wray be charged for spying on Catholics?


Transcript

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00:00:37.700 Hey, remember when the FBI got caught spying on Catholics whom the agency referred to as potential violent extremists?
00:00:46.020 That was back in February when an FBI memo leaked smearing us mackerel snappers as terrorists in waiting
00:00:53.280 and encouraging agents to infiltrate churches and even go so far as to get priests to rat on their flocks.
00:01:00.700 It was pretty egregious, even by the standards of the extremely corrupt Biden Justice Department.
00:01:08.220 So, when FBI Director Christopher Wray was grilled on that memo by Jim Jordan,
00:01:14.440 Wray did not even attempt to defend it.
00:01:17.040 What's the difference between a traditional Catholic and a radical traditional Catholic?
00:01:23.400 I'm not an expert on the Catholic orders.
00:01:27.820 Well, your FBI wrote a memo talking about radical traditional Catholics.
00:01:31.120 I'm just wondering if you can define it for us.
00:01:32.880 Well, what I can tell you is you're referring to the Richmond product,
00:01:36.120 which was a single product by a single field office,
00:01:38.420 which as soon as I found out about it, I was aghast and ordered it withdrawn and removed from FBI systems.
00:01:44.380 If you were aghast, then why won't you let us talk to the people who put it together?
00:01:47.720 We are working on finishing an internal review into what happened there.
00:01:51.740 We have to wait.
00:01:52.600 We, the Congress, and the American people have to wait until you do an internal review.
00:01:56.400 It's not a criminal investigation going on here.
00:01:58.000 An internal review before we can talk to the people who wrote this?
00:02:01.780 When we finish our internal review, which will be very soon,
00:02:04.460 we will come back before the committee and provide a briefing on what we found.
00:02:08.860 Well, we appreciate the briefing, but we want to talk to the people who wrote it.
00:02:12.800 Jim Jordan's so good.
00:02:14.000 He just knows exactly what the guy's going to say.
00:02:16.900 He's anticipating all of it.
00:02:17.980 And Christopher Wray doesn't have much of an answer other than to say,
00:02:20.640 look, it was just one office.
00:02:23.020 Just one office, okay?
00:02:25.440 That is what the FBI director said.
00:02:27.260 Just one memo from one field office, which Wray rejected the moment he saw it.
00:02:32.760 And then guess what happened next?
00:02:34.760 You guessed it.
00:02:36.460 Turns out that Christopher Wray's claim, like so many FBI and DOJ claims in recent years,
00:02:42.560 was a big, fat lie.
00:02:45.360 Turns out that that one FBI field office coordinated with multiple field offices all across the country
00:02:53.700 to smear normal, practicing Catholics as domestic terrorists.
00:02:58.900 Will Wray be investigated for perjuring himself?
00:03:02.660 Probably not.
00:03:03.240 Will Biden be investigated for wielding the state to target and harass his innocent enemies?
00:03:09.440 Probably not.
00:03:11.540 But will conservatives recognize the pattern here?
00:03:14.700 I hope so.
00:03:16.200 Because this is a pattern that crops up throughout all of history.
00:03:20.760 When radical leftists really want to seize power, they always go after the Catholics.
00:03:29.420 Always.
00:03:30.220 I know America's not a majority Catholic country.
00:03:33.360 It doesn't matter.
00:03:34.140 They go after the Catholics.
00:03:35.940 Always.
00:03:36.660 The very term leftist comes from the French Revolution,
00:03:40.060 where the Catholics sat on the right of the National Assembly,
00:03:44.160 and the people who wanted to behead the priests and nuns and king and queen sat on the left.
00:03:48.900 Who did the communists attack with special vigor in the Spanish Civil War?
00:03:53.160 It was the Catholics, priests, nuns, as well as ordinary lay people.
00:03:57.980 Who did the Bolsheviks attack in their revolution?
00:04:00.240 There aren't that many Catholics in Russia, so they attacked the closest thing.
00:04:03.680 They attacked the Russian Orthodox Church.
00:04:05.940 And they didn't just incidentally attack them.
00:04:08.480 They did so in the most gruesome of ways.
00:04:11.640 Lenin crucified priests,
00:04:14.040 poured molten lead down their throats in a mockery of Holy Communion,
00:04:17.480 particularly gruesome, specific, hideous attacks on the most traditional Orthodox Christian people you could find.
00:04:28.520 Now, you might not be Christian.
00:04:30.540 You might not be Catholic.
00:04:33.020 You might not think that the persecution of parishes here in the United States affects you.
00:04:39.040 Maybe it doesn't.
00:04:40.640 Yet.
00:04:41.000 But it will.
00:04:43.240 Radical revolutionaries, they don't start out by targeting some corporation.
00:04:48.280 They don't start out by targeting ordinary people's homes and businesses.
00:04:53.180 They don't start out by attacking the gym or the concert hall.
00:04:57.000 They always start with the churches first.
00:05:00.620 Because the church has always been their foremost enemy and obstacle.
00:05:05.580 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:05:06.240 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:05:25.640 Hey, big news.
00:05:27.560 We've got potential proof of alien life.
00:05:33.840 We'll get to that.
00:05:34.600 We'll get to that in a second.
00:05:35.440 We will get to it.
00:05:36.100 First, though, I don't want to move on from the corruption of the Biden administration so quickly.
00:05:41.100 We've got a new update to the Joe and Hunter Biden corruption spin.
00:05:45.840 You remember?
00:05:47.140 I'll just take you on a little whirlwind tour of what they've said.
00:05:50.060 Joe says, I never knew anything about my son's business dealings overseas.
00:05:54.200 Never knew anything about it.
00:05:55.800 Never heard about it.
00:05:57.200 And then Hunter accidentally tells a magazine that he and Joe talked about his business dealings.
00:06:03.080 So then the story becomes, I never talked about, well, okay, we did talk about it.
00:06:08.680 But I didn't, I didn't really know anything.
00:06:11.020 I wasn't involved.
00:06:11.780 It was just in passing.
00:06:12.980 Then we found out Joe Biden actually got on phone calls with Hunter's corrupt business partners over 20 times.
00:06:20.820 So then the story was, okay, yeah, he knew about it.
00:06:23.320 Okay, yeah, he talked to the crooks about it.
00:06:25.540 But they only talked about the weather.
00:06:27.180 Then we got a letter, a handwritten note that Joe Biden sent to Devin Archer, Hunter's business partner in this corrupt scheme.
00:06:32.940 And the note said, hey, thanks for coming to this lunch with the president of China today.
00:06:37.560 Sorry, I couldn't hang out with you too much.
00:06:39.020 But really glad you and Hunter are working together.
00:06:40.920 Can't wait to see you with Hunter again.
00:06:42.420 Keep hanging out with Hunter, sign Joe Biden.
00:06:45.500 Okay, so now he knew about it.
00:06:47.280 He was on the phone calls with the crooks.
00:06:48.920 He talked with Hunter about it.
00:06:50.340 He talked with the business partner about it.
00:06:51.980 He encouraged the business.
00:06:53.360 Now the update is he had dinner with these guys.
00:06:58.400 Joe Biden showed up to dinner with these guys.
00:07:00.160 And they weren't just taking $80,000 a month here, $100,000 over here.
00:07:05.880 It wasn't even just the $5 million bribe to Joe and the $5 million bribe to Hunter that was reported on.
00:07:10.540 Now new bank records show $20 million in foreign payments to the Bidens while Joe was VP.
00:07:19.180 We've got pictures of Joe dining with some of the oligarchs who paid off Hunter Biden.
00:07:24.360 We've got a Russian billionaire, Yelena Bacirina, who's the wife of a former Moscow mayor, both linked to Putin,
00:07:32.680 who wired $3.5 million to Hunter and Devin Archer's shell corporation, Rosemont Seneca Thornton.
00:07:39.720 $3.5 million in February 2014.
00:07:42.060 So this is while Joe is still VP.
00:07:44.220 The Ukrainian Burisma company sent $1 million in yearly payments to Hunter and Devin Archer for their positions on the board of Burisma,
00:07:52.040 which of course they knew nothing about.
00:07:54.240 There's a Kazakhstani oil oligarch, Kenes Rakyshev, who used his Singaporean company,
00:08:00.440 Novotis Holdings, to wire Hunter's shell corporation $142,300.
00:08:07.340 Now that's a weird amount.
00:08:08.760 Why would this Kazakh oligarch wire $142,300 to this totally legitimate corporation called Rosemont Seneca Holdings?
00:08:19.040 Why would he do that?
00:08:21.020 Oh, because that just so happens to be the exact cost of a sports car that Hunter Biden bought the day after the wire transfer landed.
00:08:29.840 They're barely even hiding it.
00:08:32.520 He could have at least sent the guy $150,000 or $140,000.
00:08:36.680 Hunter's got to cover the extra two Gs.
00:08:38.780 No, it's the exact amount for the sports car that Hunter buys the very next day.
00:08:42.900 We've got major spin mode here from the White House and from Politico, the liberal establishment.
00:08:51.500 Here's how Politico covers it up.
00:08:53.200 They say,
00:08:53.620 GOP House Oversight Chair James Comer rolled out a new memo identifying over $20 million in payments from entities or individuals in Russia, Ukraine, and Kazakhstan to Biden family members.
00:09:03.160 But here's the but.
00:09:04.240 But the memo doesn't show a direct payment to Joe Biden.
00:09:11.840 Oh, you don't say.
00:09:13.320 Wow, great investigative work there, Sherlock.
00:09:15.580 Wow, you're telling me.
00:09:18.380 That's it.
00:09:18.920 So then it's over.
00:09:19.740 Forget about it.
00:09:20.720 Move on.
00:09:21.140 There's nothing to see here.
00:09:22.140 Because the family that we know makes extensive use of shell corporations, the family that has bragged in text messages about how they're never going to find the money, the direct link of the money because it goes through so many shell corporations.
00:09:38.620 You're telling me that that family laundered money?
00:09:42.060 That's great.
00:09:42.940 Someone should spring Al Capone out of prison.
00:09:45.760 You never saw any direct payments to Al Capone.
00:09:49.060 Someone, hey, how about the heads of those five families in New York?
00:09:51.360 How about John Gotti?
00:09:53.360 There's no direct payment to John Gotti.
00:09:56.380 So there you go.
00:09:57.980 There's no such thing as money laundering, right?
00:10:00.800 If only we had some evidence.
00:10:02.940 If only we had some evidence that the money that was going to Hunter's shell corporation was somehow making it to Joe Biden.
00:10:08.300 If only we had a text message from Hunter Biden that said, I love you all.
00:10:11.920 This is to his daughter.
00:10:12.780 I love all of you, but I don't receive any respect, and that's fine, I guess.
00:10:15.860 Works for you, apparently.
00:10:16.600 I hope you all can do what I did and pay for everything for this entire family for 30 years.
00:10:23.640 It's really hard, but don't worry.
00:10:26.180 Unlike Pop, I won't make you give me half your salary.
00:10:29.240 If only we had text message evidence of 10% going to the big guy.
00:10:35.980 Well, I guess that's what we need to investigate.
00:10:37.700 Was it 10% or is it half?
00:10:38.820 The White House communications director retweeted the Politico article with that quote.
00:10:45.820 There is no evidence.
00:10:48.060 The memo doesn't show a direct payment to Joe Biden.
00:10:50.580 It's Kate Burner, the White House communications director.
00:10:52.400 But it was such a preposterous defense against so much overwhelming evidence that Joe Biden is a crook on the take who's taken millions and millions of dollars by selling American influence overseas.
00:11:03.040 Just total outright seven-figure, eight-figure bribes.
00:11:05.940 It was so embarrassing that Politico deleted the tweet that the White House retweeted.
00:11:11.160 So now the White House has total egg on its face.
00:11:14.160 Because even Politico, even this liberal hack outlet that they were pointing to, see, here's the exonerating evidence.
00:11:20.720 Even Politico said, okay, you're right.
00:11:22.420 That was too much.
00:11:23.100 That spin was too much.
00:11:24.020 All right, we're out of here.
00:11:25.480 The corruption is just through the roof.
00:11:28.620 And at least one Republican is focusing most of his presidential campaign on that.
00:11:33.840 That would be Donald Trump, who points out now he can't even really campaign.
00:11:40.220 He certainly campaigned as he should because his calendar is now being taken up with all of these court dates because he's being prosecuted by his opponent.
00:11:49.740 How can my corrupt political opponent, crooked Joe Biden, put me on trial during an election campaign that I'm winning by a lot,
00:11:58.860 but forcing me nevertheless to spend time and money away from the campaign trail in order to fight bogus, made-up accusations and charges?
00:12:08.120 That's what they're doing.
00:12:08.820 I'm sorry, I won't be able to go to Iowa today.
00:12:11.620 I won't be able to go to New Hampshire today because I'm sitting in a courtroom on bullsh**t because his attorney general charged me with something.
00:12:23.720 Terrible.
00:12:27.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:28.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:30.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:32.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:34.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:36.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:37.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:39.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:40.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:41.820 Bullsh**t!
00:12:42.820 There he is looking around smiling.
00:12:43.820 Thank you very much.
00:12:44.820 Thank you very much for that chain of bullsh**t.
00:12:47.820 Bullsh**t!
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00:13:55.820 You know me.
00:13:56.820 I don't like to use blue language.
00:14:00.820 I don't like to go blue, okay?
00:14:02.820 Naughty language.
00:14:03.820 This is a family show.
00:14:04.820 I try to keep it a little elevated.
00:14:07.820 I don't like it when my politicians and statesmen use naughty language.
00:14:11.820 But I think there's a place for it every now and again.
00:14:16.820 There's a rhetorical use for that kind of language.
00:14:19.820 If there ever were a use for that kind of language, this would be it.
00:14:24.820 Because Joe Biden is behaving in a way that is so egregious.
00:14:32.820 That is such a violation of standards and norms of the American political order that it has called for a response in kind.
00:14:45.820 This is not the kind of thing that suggests that we ought to play by the Marques of Queensbury rules.
00:14:52.820 Joe Biden is prosecuting his chief rival, the political opposition.
00:14:59.820 This is total banana republic stuff.
00:15:01.820 It's over nothing.
00:15:03.820 It is over BS.
00:15:04.820 And Trump is calling that out.
00:15:06.820 And this is the core of the Trump campaign.
00:15:11.820 And this is what I think is driving Trump's primary opponents a little bit crazy.
00:15:15.820 Especially Ron DeSantis because he's the number two guy.
00:15:18.820 The DeSantis supporters are saying,
00:15:20.820 DeSantis is better at wielding power.
00:15:22.820 DeSantis has a more conservative record.
00:15:24.820 DeSantis has a more coherent political vision.
00:15:26.820 DeSantis has more discipline rhetorically and politically.
00:15:28.820 DeSantis hires better people.
00:15:30.820 This, this, this, this, this, this, this.
00:15:31.820 Not going to weigh in on the merit of those claims.
00:15:33.820 But let's say they're all true.
00:15:35.820 Sure.
00:15:36.820 But Trump is a wrench in the system.
00:15:43.820 Trump is a rejection of the whole system.
00:15:47.820 DeSantis, right now, as his campaign is being run, represents maybe the sleekest, fastest,
00:15:55.820 cleanest, most efficient way to play within the system.
00:15:58.820 Trump, the way his campaign is being run, represents a rejection of the system.
00:16:03.820 That's the difference.
00:16:04.820 That's why his supporters in that room were chanting BS, bull, S-H-I-T, bull, S-H-I-T.
00:16:10.820 And there's Trump there and he's kind of smiling.
00:16:12.820 He goes, yep.
00:16:13.820 Thank you.
00:16:14.820 Thank you.
00:16:15.820 That's what it is.
00:16:16.820 It's not, well, when you really think about it, Trump probably shouldn't have, he shouldn't
00:16:19.820 have given that speech that day on January 6th.
00:16:21.820 And when you actually, when you look at the US code, you know, he wasn't supposed to have
00:16:24.820 that particular document.
00:16:25.820 And even though other presidents have done it, his was, it was, his was form 37258 instead
00:16:31.820 of which you're not really supposed to have instead of this.
00:16:33.820 It's like, shut up.
00:16:34.820 No, it's BS.
00:16:36.820 It's a banana republic political prosecution.
00:16:39.820 This is Joe Biden, a crook throwing his chief rival, his chief political threat in the
00:16:45.820 can like they do in dictatorships and silly illegitimate countries around the world.
00:16:50.820 And so the response to that is not, well, actually look at this special legal argument.
00:16:56.820 The answer to that is this is BS.
00:16:58.820 And you know, I got two words for you that aren't happy birthday, liberal establishment.
00:17:03.820 That's the answer.
00:17:04.820 That's why the Trump campaign continues to be strong and continues to grow.
00:17:09.820 And this is why Trump says I'm one indictment away from winning the election.
00:17:12.820 And so if, if any other campaign wants to compete with that, I think they're going to
00:17:18.820 have to get a little bit clearer in their rejection of this obviously BS system.
00:17:25.820 When, and it's maybe an impossible spot because Trump kind of has that market cornered.
00:17:31.820 So if you're going to run against Trump, you have to, you have to run against the claims
00:17:34.820 that Trump is making.
00:17:35.820 And if you run against the claims that Trump is making, you are necessarily going to be
00:17:38.820 more inclined to legitimize the political order.
00:17:41.820 So it might just be an impossible situation even for the greatest politician in the world.
00:17:44.820 But that is why people are drawn to the campaign.
00:17:48.820 Trump keeps making this point.
00:17:49.820 He keeps going back.
00:17:50.820 This is what's driving a lot of more establishment type Republicans.
00:17:54.820 And even some non-establishment Republicans crazy is Trump keeps going back to relitigate
00:18:01.820 2020, which a lot of people are saying, we don't want to hear about 2020.
00:18:04.820 We want to hear about 2024.
00:18:05.820 Trump keeps returning to this theme.
00:18:07.820 Only a party that cheats at elections would make it illegal to question those elections.
00:18:12.820 That's the only ones that would really make it difficult.
00:18:16.820 If you can't challenge a rigged election, think of it.
00:18:21.820 We're not looking to do it.
00:18:22.820 We want, you know, they don't go after the people that rigged the election.
00:18:27.820 They go after the people that want to find out what the hell happened.
00:18:30.820 It's a disgrace.
00:18:32.820 It's a disgrace.
00:18:33.820 Now, the geniuses, the total geniuses in the GOP consulting and chattering class,
00:18:39.820 they say that any Republican nominee, especially Trump, if he wants to win in 2024,
00:18:45.820 needs to move on from issues like election integrity, has to move on.
00:18:50.820 Stop talking about the last election.
00:18:52.820 Oh, quit going.
00:18:53.820 That doesn't pull well in the suburbs, they tell us.
00:18:55.820 I don't know.
00:18:57.820 That is not going to happen.
00:18:59.820 That is not going to, especially if the nominee is Trump,
00:19:02.820 especially if Trump continues to dominate in the polls.
00:19:04.820 That is not going to happen because the chief reason to vote for Trump
00:19:10.820 is that you think that things are so bad that we need a rejection of the system.
00:19:17.820 The chief reason to vote for Trump is because,
00:19:19.820 it is not because you have this particular view on immigration or that particular view,
00:19:22.820 this particular view on trade or that particular view.
00:19:24.820 It's because you think that the system is so corrupt
00:19:27.820 that you can't even trust the integrity of the elections.
00:19:29.820 The reason to vote for Trump is that they rigged it in 2020.
00:19:32.820 That's one of the main reasons to do it.
00:19:34.820 The reason to vote for Trump in 2016 is because the Republicans and Democrats
00:19:38.820 had been working together as a uniparty to advance the same unpopular
00:19:42.820 and wrongheaded policies on trade, on immigration, and on foreign policy,
00:19:48.820 no matter which party got into power.
00:19:50.820 It didn't matter which party got into power.
00:19:51.820 You always had a lot more immigrants.
00:19:53.820 You always had a lot more foreign wars.
00:19:54.820 You always had a lot more outsourcing of jobs and materials and manufacturing
00:19:59.820 and a lot more neglect of America's heartland, the forgotten men and women,
00:20:04.820 the deplorables, the irredeemables.
00:20:05.820 And so it was a rigged game.
00:20:06.820 And Trump came in and he said,
00:20:07.820 it's a rigged game and I'm not going to play by it.
00:20:09.820 It's the same thing here with a particular focus on election integrity.
00:20:13.820 If you don't think that, if you think that Trump's just a sore loser
00:20:16.820 and things aren't really that bad and we're all being hyperbolic,
00:20:19.820 then you're not going to vote for Trump.
00:20:21.820 You're probably going to vote for DeSantis.
00:20:23.820 Maybe you're going to vote for Vivek.
00:20:26.820 Maybe, I don't know, if you're, if you really want to return to the mid-2000s,
00:20:32.820 you'll vote for one of the other candidates.
00:20:34.820 But if you are inclined to vote for Trump, you particularly want to talk about 2020
00:20:41.820 and election integrity.
00:20:43.820 And if that is going to lose you the general, maybe that's the tragedy of it.
00:20:46.820 I don't know, maybe that will lose the general.
00:20:48.820 Maybe that's, that doesn't resonate with voters.
00:20:50.820 But there's no incentive for Trump to stop talking about that.
00:20:54.820 That is the raison d'etre of his campaign.
00:20:57.820 Now, when I want to make myself feel a little bit better, what do I do?
00:21:03.820 I remember that politics is always a little bit crazy.
00:21:06.820 I try to calm down.
00:21:07.820 Maybe I go for a walk and I sit down for a nice delicious plate of Good Ranchers.
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00:23:06.820 This is all too much for some Republicans.
00:23:11.820 The focus on election integrity, the insistence that we defend a guy who's under multiple indictments for all manner of evil that Joe Biden is flinging at him.
00:23:25.820 This is too much, even for some people who have long been considered conservative Republicans.
00:23:29.820 Judge Ludig is a pretty big figure on the right in the judiciary.
00:23:37.820 He's been a big feeder for conservative Supreme Court justices, for clerks.
00:23:42.820 He's been a major figure.
00:23:43.820 Even if you haven't heard of him, he's had a big influence on the right.
00:23:47.820 He's just come out on CNN and he said there's basically no Republican Party anymore.
00:23:54.820 Do you think he is still a clear and present danger to American democracy?
00:23:58.820 I do, Poppy, more so today than he was last summer when I testified before the Congress of the United States.
00:24:08.820 The trials of the former president now will become, together with the events of January 6th, the singular infamous events in American history.
00:24:23.820 Just to remind our viewers, you are a conservative's conservative.
00:24:28.820 Trump is winning by a mile in the polls.
00:24:31.820 Republican officials are lining up behind him.
00:24:34.820 What do you think has happened to your party?
00:24:37.820 I'm not a political person, Poppy, and frankly I don't care about the Republican Party at all, except to the extent that the two political parties in America are the political guardians of democracy.
00:24:56.820 Today, in my view, there is no Republican Party to counter the Democratic Party in the country.
00:25:06.820 And for that reason, American democracy is in grave peril.
00:25:11.820 There it is.
00:25:14.820 Trump drove Judge Ludig, as he's driven many people, completely insane.
00:25:20.820 Completely insane.
00:25:21.820 And so CNN does this thing that they often do.
00:25:25.820 It says, now listen, we just want to be clear for our viewers, you're a conservative's conservative.
00:25:30.820 And usually when the liberal media say this, it's not true.
00:25:34.820 Usually they're saying it to Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger or Jeff Flake or some big squishy lib who's practically a Democrat who occasionally votes to cut taxes.
00:25:42.820 And they say, you're a true conservative's conservative.
00:25:45.820 And it's almost never true.
00:25:47.820 In the case of Ludig, it's almost true.
00:25:50.820 I don't want to downplay the role that Judge Ludig has played on the right.
00:25:57.820 He has been considered one of the more conservative figures in the country over the past number of decades now.
00:26:08.820 But he is not today the conservative's conservative.
00:26:12.820 Obviously, he spends all his time whining about Donald Trump.
00:26:14.820 You heard what he said right there.
00:26:15.820 He said, I don't care about the Republican Party.
00:26:17.820 That tells you a lot.
00:26:19.820 That tells you a lot about the shallow, weakened type of conservatism that has predominated over the last 20, 30 years.
00:26:29.820 He says, I don't care about the Republican Party.
00:26:31.820 I just want there to be two strong parties.
00:26:35.820 I want there to be two strong parties in America and we just kind of duke it out a little bit, but we basically maintain the status quo.
00:26:42.820 That's the implication.
00:26:44.820 I don't want to win substantive victories necessarily as much as I want to maintain certain procedural norms.
00:26:52.820 Procedural norms that have redounded to the benefit of the libs for the past 70 years.
00:26:59.820 This is the kind of the distinction you hear between conservative jurists and say, originalist or textualist jurists.
00:27:10.820 There's a lot to recommend originalism and textualism, but it's a distinction here because originalism is concerned with a procedural norm.
00:27:20.820 A certain interpretive principle, not with substantive goods, these judicial philosophies that have predominated on the right for the past 50 years or so have stated we don't really care what the substantive end is.
00:27:34.820 We're not necessarily referring, we're not focusing on the background principles of justice that undergird our legal system.
00:27:41.820 We're just focusing on exactly what the positive text of the statute was understood to mean at the time of its passing.
00:27:51.820 Which is fine and tactically sometimes that can redound to our benefit, but it's kind of weak sauce.
00:27:58.820 And the conservative movement today is much less concerned with maintaining the precise procedural norms of 1972.
00:28:08.820 And we're much more concerned with substantive goods.
00:28:12.820 We're much less concerned with defending, I don't know, free speech in the abstract than we are with defining what the inevitable standards and constraints of our speech will be.
00:28:24.820 What we want to say, this is the point I made in my book, Speechless, which is that, where's that bell?
00:28:29.820 Thanks guys, real great, there we go.
00:28:31.820 Which is that free speech in the abstract doesn't mean anything to people who have nothing to say.
00:28:35.820 I'm not a conservative because I want to maintain the exact status quo and just have a lot of fun debate in the allegedly free marketplace of ideas.
00:28:42.820 I want a good society.
00:28:45.820 I want a good, normal, sane place to be where I can be free in the true sense of freedom and that I can flourish.
00:28:52.820 Not just become enslaved to my appetites and to the predations of bad people who are doing bad things.
00:29:01.820 That's a big shift.
00:29:03.820 And conservatives who really came of age in, I don't know, the 90s, early 2000s, they don't like all this talk about good and bad and true and false and beautiful and ugly.
00:29:15.820 They don't like that kind of talk.
00:29:16.820 But that's where we're at.
00:29:17.820 And so we're going to lose people who are not ready for that fight.
00:29:22.820 Speaking of politicians of a certain age, Dianne Feinstein has been hospitalized.
00:29:27.820 She is the Democrat senator.
00:29:29.820 She's quite aged.
00:29:30.820 She's a woman of a certain age.
00:29:31.820 She is 90 I think now.
00:29:34.820 She had shingles earlier this year.
00:29:35.820 All sorts of health problems that came from that.
00:29:37.820 She's in a wheelchair.
00:29:38.820 She seems to have some cognitive issues.
00:29:40.820 She had a fall.
00:29:41.820 She was briefly hospitalized.
00:29:42.820 She then returned home.
00:29:43.820 And people are calling on her to step down.
00:29:45.820 Democrats are calling on her to step down.
00:29:47.820 And oddly enough, Republicans seem even more focused on making her step down.
00:29:52.820 And I just don't see why.
00:29:54.820 I don't see a single good reason why we should call on Dianne Feinstein to step down.
00:30:01.820 I see why Democrats want her to step down.
00:30:03.820 They want her to step down because there's a Democrat governor in California and he can appoint some very young, robust, far leftist senator to replace Dianne Feinstein, who by the standards of the Democratic Party is relatively moderate today.
00:30:16.820 I get why they want her to.
00:30:17.820 Why do we want her to?
00:30:18.820 Because she's old.
00:30:20.820 We don't need all these old people anymore.
00:30:23.820 Come on.
00:30:24.820 It's embarrassing how old she is.
00:30:25.820 Let's go.
00:30:26.820 Get her out of here.
00:30:27.820 That's it.
00:30:28.820 That is the degree of strategic and tactical sophistication on the right.
00:30:33.820 I'm sorry to say.
00:30:34.820 For a lot of the establishment Republicans.
00:30:37.820 What good is done by replacing her right now?
00:30:42.820 Nothing.
00:30:43.820 What bad is done?
00:30:45.820 You get a younger, more energetic, more radical senator who's doing more stuff.
00:30:50.820 So why would we do that?
00:30:52.820 Well, because just don't you think we shouldn't have old people?
00:30:54.820 First of all, the Senate comes from the word Cenex, which means old, old man.
00:30:58.820 So I don't have a problem with old people.
00:31:00.820 Maybe she is a little over the hill and should retire.
00:31:02.820 But, okay, we've got to cut it.
00:31:06.820 We conservatives need to cut it with the rosy, idealistic nonsense about politics and start seeing power a little more clearly.
00:31:15.820 I'm not saying we behave in a way that's immoral or a way that's unjust.
00:31:18.820 I would never encourage that.
00:31:19.820 But we need to stop engaging in politics as though we're living in 1952 and nothing has changed.
00:31:26.820 And we're all just dealing in good faith.
00:31:28.820 And the Democrats aren't prosecuting the political opposition leader in the country.
00:31:31.820 No, they would never do such a thing.
00:31:32.820 Come on, let's just all come together.
00:31:34.820 We basically agree in the end, don't we?
00:31:36.820 No, we don't, man.
00:31:37.820 They're trying to imprison the former president, the leader of the opposition.
00:31:40.820 They're spying on Catholics.
00:31:42.820 They're lying about spying on Catholics just for going to mass.
00:31:45.820 They're calling parents domestic terrorists.
00:31:48.820 They're trying to imprison pro-life advocates for protesting infanticide.
00:31:52.820 They're giving awards to the infanticidal maniacs.
00:31:55.820 And they're trying to throw the pro-life advocates in prison for 10 years, 11 years.
00:31:59.820 We're not in 1952 anymore, guys.
00:32:05.820 The procedural norms are gone.
00:32:07.820 The only people who are playing by the old procedural norms are the conservatives.
00:32:10.820 And we're going to be playing by them all the way to the gulags.
00:32:13.820 No reason.
00:32:14.820 I'm endorsing Dianne Feinstein for three more terms.
00:32:17.820 Speaking of power, shifting gears a little bit here.
00:32:21.820 Olivia Newton-John.
00:32:22.820 You know the actress Olivia Newton-John.
00:32:24.820 She died a little while ago.
00:32:26.820 And her family has been describing paranormal experiences of seeing her after her death.
00:32:32.820 And I bring up this story because a lot of people have these kinds of stories.
00:32:36.820 They'll say, oh, my mother died.
00:32:38.820 And, you know, I saw something out of the glint of my eye.
00:32:43.820 And I saw this odd little sign.
00:32:45.820 And I knew that birdie was my mother.
00:32:47.820 Or I knew that weird image that I saw.
00:32:49.820 That was my mother.
00:32:50.820 Or I felt my mother around me.
00:32:51.820 And that's what they're describing.
00:32:53.820 They're saying, two weeks after she passed, my phone accidentally took a picture of my dog.
00:32:58.820 And there floating by his head was a little blue orb the same color as this.
00:33:02.820 And this is Olivia Newton-John's daughter saying this.
00:33:07.820 Mom and I had talked years back.
00:33:09.820 We'd watch these paranormal shows.
00:33:11.820 And I'd say, you've got to show up for me.
00:33:13.820 And she was like, I'll show up as one of those orb things.
00:33:16.820 What do you know?
00:33:17.820 The phone goes off.
00:33:18.820 And look, there's a little orb.
00:33:19.820 See, that's mommy.
00:33:22.820 I don't mean to drag anybody for grieving.
00:33:25.820 Grief is a very hard thing to do.
00:33:28.820 A lot of people think this is harmless.
00:33:31.820 This kind of fantasy.
00:33:32.820 A lot of people think it's comforting.
00:33:34.820 Oh, who cares?
00:33:35.820 I don't think the orb is Olivia Newton-John.
00:33:38.820 And a lot of people say, oh, it's comforting to think that maybe, you know, your mother's there.
00:33:43.820 I don't think it is comforting.
00:33:45.820 And as our culture has lost religion, we've become much more superstitious.
00:33:51.820 You see this in a lot of the most prominent ideologies these days,
00:33:54.820 some of which I'm not allowed to talk about on YouTube, but you know which ones I'm talking about.
00:33:57.820 A lot of bizarre superstitions that we're engaging in today.
00:34:00.820 About the nature of the soul.
00:34:02.820 All sorts of weird stuff.
00:34:03.820 New Age-y kind of stuff.
00:34:05.820 It's not comforting, though.
00:34:07.820 What is comforting is systematic theology.
00:34:11.820 It is.
00:34:12.820 I know it doesn't sound comforting.
00:34:13.820 It sounds kind of cold and clinical.
00:34:15.820 But it is.
00:34:16.820 I know a lot of people want to say, I'm spiritual.
00:34:18.820 I'm not religious.
00:34:19.820 I don't believe in organized religion.
00:34:20.820 I don't believe in dogmas.
00:34:21.820 I don't believe in all that rigidity.
00:34:22.820 That's all man-made.
00:34:23.820 That's not.
00:34:24.820 I believe in spirit man, you know.
00:34:27.820 Spirituality is not comforting.
00:34:29.820 Religion can be comforting.
00:34:32.820 It is comforting in that it gives you strength.
00:34:34.820 Sometimes it's a little disruptive of what you're doing if they tell you, if your religion tells you you're on the wrong track.
00:34:41.820 That can be distressing, but it'll get you back on the right track.
00:34:45.820 But the reason that the orb stuff, the New Age-y spirituality is not comforting is because it raises more questions than it answers.
00:34:51.820 If my mother is a little blue orb, what the hell does that mean about the soul?
00:34:55.820 What does that mean?
00:34:56.820 What happens after we die?
00:34:57.820 We all just float around as little orbs.
00:34:59.820 Is she conscious?
00:35:00.820 Is she in heaven?
00:35:01.820 Is she in hell?
00:35:02.820 Is she in another dimension?
00:35:03.820 Or I guess she's in this dimension.
00:35:04.820 Are there just ghosts everywhere?
00:35:07.820 Is there God?
00:35:08.820 Is there justice?
00:35:11.820 What does that mean?
00:35:15.820 I have a view of what happens, which is that when you die, you go to heaven or hell.
00:35:20.820 And you might need a period of expurgation, you know, if you're not in a perfect state to enter into heaven.
00:35:25.820 But that's it.
00:35:26.820 That's what happens.
00:35:27.820 And then there will be a final judgment and a resurrection of the dead and a new heaven and a new earth.
00:35:32.820 That's what I believe.
00:35:33.820 That's the Christian view.
00:35:34.820 That's what Christians believe.
00:35:35.820 We say this kind of thing in the creed.
00:35:38.820 I believe there's a cloud of witnesses of saints.
00:35:41.820 I believe this is expressed in the book of the Apocalypse, where the saints are praying for us.
00:35:46.820 They've got little baskets, which has incense coming out of it, which you see reflected in the mass.
00:35:52.820 And that the incense in the buckets, it's the prayers of the saints, that they're praying for us and that God loves us and wants us to be with him.
00:35:59.820 And I believe all that.
00:36:01.820 And there are little coincidences, you know, if you're grieving and you see a little birdie fly out the window or you see a little orb and you look at that.
00:36:06.820 I don't think that's my mother.
00:36:08.820 I don't think that's my dearly departed person.
00:36:10.820 But I do think, well, there's a providential order to the universe.
00:36:13.820 Things make sense.
00:36:14.820 There is ultimately justice.
00:36:15.820 And that is comforting.
00:36:17.820 But it's comforting because the rigor of logic has been applied to spiritual intuitions.
00:36:21.820 That is what theology is.
00:36:23.820 Theology is faith seeking understanding.
00:36:25.820 Spirituality is just BS that you try, superstitious nonsense that you try to tell yourself to comfort yourself.
00:36:32.820 But as C.S. Lewis points out, if you look for truth, you might find comfort in the end.
00:36:36.820 If you look for comfort, you'll find neither truth nor comfort, only soft soap and wishful thinking to begin.
00:36:41.820 And in the end, despair.
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00:37:50.820 My favorite comment yesterday is from Erica HL.
00:37:52.820 My favorite transition by far, she says, is Michael talking about diet pills then moving immediately to a clip of Chris Christie.
00:37:59.820 That's not nice.
00:38:00.820 That's not nice.
00:38:01.820 Why would you?
00:38:02.820 You shouldn't say that.
00:38:03.820 Who would do that?
00:38:04.820 It's not nice at all.
00:38:06.820 I do not.
00:38:07.820 I don't endorse that.
00:38:08.820 Okay, speaking of supernatural things, some new alien nonsense just dropped.
00:38:13.820 It's our weekly alien distraction.
00:38:15.820 Here we go.
00:38:16.820 The new alien nonsense comes from some scientist who claims that he has proof, possibly, of alien life.
00:38:23.820 This object was moving very fast, faster than 95% of the stars near the sun, and it also had material strength tougher than all the rocks we had seen over the past decade in the NASA catalog.
00:38:35.820 So there is a chance.
00:38:37.820 I wouldn't quantify it.
00:38:38.820 I would just say it's quite possible that it's different than a rock.
00:38:42.820 And what we are doing now is analyzing the composition of the molten droplets that fell off this object when it was exposed to the fireball that it created as it moved through the air.
00:38:53.820 And we are getting some interesting results, but I cannot detail them until we've put them together in a paper, scientific paper that we hope to make publicly available to everyone.
00:39:04.820 It would mean that we have a neighbor, that we are not alone, just like realizing that, you know, when you go out to your backyard and you find a tennis ball that was thrown by a neighbor, you realize, yes, I do have a neighbor.
00:39:17.820 That's the basic change to our perspective about our place in the universe, and it will inspire us to explore space.
00:39:26.820 It may make us better instead of fighting with each other.
00:39:30.820 Perhaps it will be a wake-up call for us to realize that there are more important things in life than fighting with other people.
00:39:38.820 There it is.
00:39:39.820 There is my evidence that this is BS.
00:39:43.820 Well, there's a lot of evidence that it's BS.
00:39:45.820 But this is my, this is the tell for me.
00:39:49.820 So first, it's the usual story.
00:39:51.820 Oh, I've got all this great evidence.
00:39:53.820 I can't tell you about it.
00:39:54.820 Yeah, but I got, man, this is some really great, strong evidence.
00:39:58.820 We are not alone.
00:39:59.820 We have neighbors.
00:40:01.820 It's so clear.
00:40:02.820 Yeah, I don't have a paper yet or anything, but just take my word for it.
00:40:05.820 Well, I'm going to do a paper in the future, and then I hope I can make it publicly available.
00:40:10.820 But anyway, before I do any of that, I just want to go on TV and I want to let you know.
00:40:14.820 There are totally aliens.
00:40:16.820 Totally.
00:40:17.820 And my proof is you should take my word for it.
00:40:20.820 Okay.
00:40:21.820 It's the same, it's always the same old story.
00:40:23.820 Oh, yeah.
00:40:24.820 We've, I found a thing.
00:40:25.820 And actually, my friend's cousin's brother found a rock in his yard.
00:40:29.820 And we know somehow that it means that there's ET out there.
00:40:34.820 And so, but, and he told me, I wish he could be here right now.
00:40:37.820 He could tell you himself, but it's just me.
00:40:39.820 So anyway, take my word for it.
00:40:40.820 And don't pay any attention to the imprisonment of the opposition leader in the US.
00:40:47.820 Don't pay any attention to your churches being spied on.
00:40:51.820 Don't pay any attention to the prospect of World War III in Ukraine.
00:40:54.820 Don't pay any attention to the haphazard economy that we've got under Biden.
00:40:58.820 Don't pay any attention to the millions of foreigners crossing your borders.
00:41:01.820 No, no, no, there's, there's, I'm promising you, man, there's stuff in outer space that
00:41:07.820 would complicate, if not undermine your entire traditional cosmology and your place in the
00:41:12.820 universe.
00:41:13.820 But the tell, okay, that's all the preface to say.
00:41:15.820 The tell to me that this is a psyop is, he says there at the end, he goes, well, you
00:41:22.820 know what this would mean is that, look, we don't occupy the place that we think we
00:41:26.820 occupy in the universe.
00:41:27.820 Now, we traditionally think that we occupy the center of the universe, that the universe
00:41:31.820 is basically made for us, that there are non-rational creatures, and there is God, you know, and
00:41:38.820 pure spirit, and that we're right there, right in the middle of it.
00:41:41.820 We're the meaning of those two things, and the world was made for us, and we're stewards
00:41:45.820 of that world.
00:41:46.820 We're made in the image and likeness of God.
00:41:48.820 And he's saying, yeah, this is, we're going to disrupt all that.
00:41:50.820 And maybe then we'll stop fighting with each other.
00:41:55.820 And then maybe we'll just come together.
00:41:57.820 And then maybe we'll just all cooperate all the time.
00:42:00.820 And maybe, oh, okay, so now, after all the BS, here, my cousin's brother's friend totally
00:42:06.820 has proof of aliens.
00:42:07.820 You get to the point of it, which is a political point.
00:42:11.820 We're going to change our political order.
00:42:13.820 We're going to stop fighting.
00:42:14.820 We're going to have to cooperate.
00:42:15.820 We got these, we're going to unite because we got this, this alien invader.
00:42:19.820 And we're going to stop, we're going to have some political changes, which something
00:42:25.820 tells me is what this whole UFO nonsense has been about from the very beginning.
00:42:30.820 Speaking of things that aren't real, Wayne Brady is a pansexual.
00:42:35.820 What's a pansexual?
00:42:36.820 I don't know.
00:42:37.820 It's kind of funny that he opens his video in which he expresses his pansexuality in the
00:42:43.820 kitchen.
00:42:44.820 So there's no pans though.
00:42:46.820 He's washing a dish.
00:42:47.820 He is a great performer.
00:42:53.820 There's some guy there, some gal there, some rainbow flag, dude, and Brady with a nice
00:43:09.820 pink suit on here.
00:43:12.820 Okay, so that's his video.
00:43:14.820 And he comes out and says in this post, this is the text of his post, he goes, as someone
00:43:20.820 who gets to bring joy to others daily on TV, it's been ironic that I don't experience it
00:43:23.820 as much as I'd like.
00:43:24.820 I advocate mental health for all.
00:43:27.820 And a part of that is self-transparency.
00:43:29.820 In doing my work, I've come to see a few truths, one of them being that I want to be
00:43:32.820 free to love whomever I want.
00:43:34.820 This truth makes me pan and part of the LGBTQ family.
00:43:38.820 Scary as hell to say it out loud, but there it is.
00:43:40.820 People I admire most are the ones who are brave enough to be themselves unapologetically.
00:43:44.820 And I'm going to be happy.
00:43:46.820 A real man in my eyes isn't afraid to be honest and happy.
00:43:49.820 I'm going to be living my best life.
00:43:50.820 And then he tags a bunch of people, including his ex-wife.
00:43:54.820 Wayne Brady has been married twice, actually married, like to a woman, and has a child.
00:44:00.820 And he's decided now in his middle age that he's a pansexual.
00:44:05.820 And what is pansexual?
00:44:06.820 He describes it, he says, pansexual is like bisexual with an open mind.
00:44:11.820 How do you get more open-minded than bisexual?
00:44:14.820 I think it means that you are bisexual, but you're open to dating trannies or something.
00:44:20.820 I actually think that's what he means.
00:44:21.820 I don't really know, but that's what I've inferred that means.
00:44:25.820 And he says, I just want to be happy.
00:44:28.820 He said, I advocate mental health for all.
00:44:31.820 When someone prattles on and on and on about mental health, you can know that this person is in a bad state and is certainly a liberal.
00:44:37.820 Because mental health is the new slogan that is used by people who are ignoring spiritual health.
00:44:43.820 Who have usually, maybe they have some psychological problems, but at a deeper level, they almost certainly, almost 100% of the time, have spiritual problems.
00:44:51.820 And they don't want to acknowledge that because they're materialists.
00:44:54.820 And so they instead say, well, if I can just stoop something else, then I'll feel better.
00:45:00.820 But of course, that won't happen.
00:45:01.820 That will only make the issue worse.
00:45:03.820 And to bring his wives into this and to have them pretend to celebrate this, it's very, very sad.
00:45:09.820 I don't mean to knock Wayne Brady.
00:45:10.820 I think he's a very talented guy and very, very funny.
00:45:13.820 He's one of my favorite performers of the 90s and 2000s.
00:45:17.820 But this is really sad because he's obviously unhappy.
00:45:22.820 He's seeking happiness in this perverted form of liberation.
00:45:27.820 He thinks that just being able to do whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do, whenever I want, that's going to make me happy.
00:45:33.820 And it won't.
00:45:34.820 That's the lie.
00:45:35.820 That's the lie not just of radical leftism.
00:45:37.820 That's the lie not just of LGBTism.
00:45:39.820 It's the lie of liberalism.
00:45:41.820 The lie that your happiness will be in the expression of your individual sovereignty.
00:45:46.820 That's the lie that Satan tells himself in Milton's Paradise Lost.
00:45:50.820 Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.
00:45:53.820 The mind is its own place and it can make a hell of heaven and heaven a hell.
00:45:56.820 But it isn't true.
00:45:57.820 Your exercise of your own individual will and your sovereignty can feel, in modernity, we feel as though that's the highest good.
00:46:07.820 It's not.
00:46:08.820 That's just a means to an end.
00:46:11.820 It's just a procedure.
00:46:14.820 It's just a procedure.
00:46:15.820 It gets to what we were talking about with Judge Ludig.
00:46:16.820 It's just a procedure.
00:46:18.820 The question is, what is the substance that you're aiming at?
00:46:22.820 What choices are you making?
00:46:24.820 How are you using your will?
00:46:26.820 What are you using your will for?
00:46:29.820 What is good?
00:46:31.820 Putting the cart before the horse.
00:46:34.820 And now, Wayne Brady is going to be attracted to all sorts of things.
00:46:38.820 Men, women, carts, horses, and probably everything in between.
00:46:42.820 Today is Theology Thursday, baby.
00:46:44.820 The rest of the show continues now.
00:46:46.820 We have Rabbi Pinkhas Taylor on.
00:46:49.820 We've had a Protestant.
00:46:51.820 We've had a Catholic.
00:46:52.820 Now we have a Jew to talk about all sorts of weird, mysterious, esoteric kind of things.
00:46:59.820 Like aliens and demons, which is what they really are.
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