Ep. 1312 - Christianity Called ＂Bigoted＂ As Attacks Continue
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Summary
Former Vice President Joe Biden's secret identity has been revealed, and it's a little bit more complicated than Mitt Romney's silly burner account. Plus, an anti-Christian tweet from a conservative activist in Ohio, and a sitting member of Congress.
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Remember a few years ago, when we all discovered that Mitt Romney had an alter ego?
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Senator Romney, we learned, went by a pseudonym, Pierre Delecto. And as Pierre Delecto, Romney
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liked and replied to tweets from journalists and from some of his colleagues in Congress.
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Okay. Well, it turns out there's another politician in Washington with a nom de plume.
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This time it's President Biden, whose pseudonym is Robert L. Peters. And as Robert L. Peters,
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President Biden emailed Hunter Biden's crooked business associates and scheduled secret phone
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calls with the president of Ukraine while running U.S. policy on the Eastern European nation.
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A little bit different, very different uses of pseudonyms. The House Committee on Oversight
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and Accountability has uncovered Biden's secret identity, which appears to have been a little
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bit more focused and a little bit more lucrative than Mitt Romney's silly burner account.
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The committee has actually uncovered that Biden used multiple pseudonymous accounts to secretly
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conduct business with his son and foreign powers while he was vice president. Those other pseudonyms
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include Robin Ware, JRB Ware, and who knows how many others. This fact might explain why Joe Biden
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struggles these days to remember his own name. He has so many of them, it's difficult to keep track.
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Also might explain why Joe Biden managed to forget and deny all of the times that we now know he heard
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about, participated in, and apparently profited immensely from all those crooked business deals.
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It wasn't him, after all. It was Robert L. Peters. But something tells me, despite the committee's
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request for more records, that the executive agencies are going to continue to stonewall.
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They're not going to go after Joe Biden, or Robert Peters, or Robin Ware, or any other Biden persona.
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They're not going to go after the current president for being a crook. They're too busy prosecuting the
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former president for opposing him. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Welcome back to the show. There's some real anti-marriage propaganda going around on TikTok.
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Whether this is propaganda sent from the Chinese through TikTok, or just from insufferable American
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leftists, we will get to it. First, though, I've got to turn my attention to a Republican.
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Back to Congress, back to Capitol Hill, to a Republican there, though. This is a bizarre saga.
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I was traveling a little bit the last couple of days, and so I'm just catching up on it now,
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which I'm glad it actually took me a little while, because there have been some new developments.
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Over in Ohio, there's a GOP conservative activist and campaigner by the name of Lizzie Marbach,
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There is no hope for any of us outside of having faith in Jesus Christ alone.
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Okay. It's a pretty basic profession of the Christian faith. The Christian creed begins,
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I believe in God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ,
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his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary,
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suffered from Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. The rest of the creed goes on.
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And so this is a very, very basic expression of what you believe if you're a Christian.
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There's no hope for any of us outside of having faith in Jesus Christ alone. Okay.
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Also, this is a private citizen, a woman with not very many followers on Twitter,
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who has worked in politics and has campaigned and apparently worked for the Ohio Right to Life.
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Okay. Then a sitting Republican congressman quote tweets this lady and says,
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This is one of the most bigoted tweets I have ever seen. Delete it, Lizzie. Delete it. Delete it,
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Christian. Religious freedom in the United States applies to every religion. You've gone too far.
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However, this is one of the most bigoted tweets I've ever seen. This is an insane,
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completely egregious tweet. The translation of which is,
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This profession of Christian faith is one of the most biggest tweets I've ever seen. Delete
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your expression of faith, Lizzie. Religious freedom in the United States applies to every religion,
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except for Christianity, apparently. You've gone too far. Okay. So, completely insane,
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completely unacceptable, truly, truly scandalous stuff from a sitting member of Congress, Max Miller,
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a Republican to boot. But he then recognized his error. So, not too long afterward, he tweets out,
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I posted something earlier that conveyed a message that I did not intend. I will not try to hide my
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mistake or run from it. I sincerely apologize to Lizzie and to everyone who read my post.
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I'm really glad to see this because he says, I sincerely apologize. I was wrong. I did something
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wrong. Sorry. And I'm generally, I try to be quick to accept apologies. I try to be slow to anger
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and quick to forgive. That's in the Lord's Prayer. We, please, Father, forgive us our debts as we forgive
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those who trespass against us. But there's a question raised by this apology. It says,
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I posted something earlier that conveyed a message I did not intend. So, the obvious question is,
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well, what message did you intend? This is a pretty blunt tweet. So, what message did you intend?
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It would seem more reasonable to me that he intended to say exactly what he did said,
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but he said it in a moment of passion and anger and irrationality. And then he realized once he had
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cooled off that what he said was completely unacceptable and he regretted it and changed his mind.
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That, to me, so, that seems much more likely to me. The congressman is more than welcome to come on
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the show. We can talk about it. It's a little bit of an ambiguous apology, but still, he says,
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I sincerely apologize. I did something wrong. The thing that I said came out wrong. I'm sorry. Okay.
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But then, this is really troublesome. It broke last night that Lizzie Marbach, the woman who posted this
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basic expression of faith, has been fired from her job at Ohio Right to Life. It also came out that
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the congressman's wife is on the board of Ohio Right to Life. Now, I don't know. Maybe this gal,
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Lizzie Marbach, maybe she really messed up something in the office yesterday. Just coincidentally,
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you know, she poured coffee on the computer. All right, you're fired, gal. But that seems
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unlikely to me. It seems likely to me that she was fired in relation to this tweet, this sitting
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member of Congress attacking her for the most basic expression of the Christian faith I can possibly
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imagine. And then publicly apologizing, but then she loses her job when the congressman's wife
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is on the board of the, it really stinks to high heaven. And so now, while previously I would
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totally accept that apology, and I think we ought to be as gracious and forgiving as we can be within
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reason and within prudence, now I have to question that apology. I think we need to call attention to
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that because it's indicative of a broader problem in the country, which is we talk a lot about religious
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freedom. We talk a lot about neutrality, and everyone's welcome to believe whatever they want.
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But there is a concerted effort in this country that has gone on for many, many years to stigmatize
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Christians and to ostracize them and to push them out of the public square and to kick Christian
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beliefs and customs and rituals out of classrooms, government buildings, popular culture, just
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everywhere. A big, big problem. And now, when you add on to that, you've got the FBI infiltrating
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Catholic traditional masses when you've got the FBI coming in, knocking down the doors of pro-life
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activists, knocking on, you know, the wife opens the door, seven kids there, they arrest the father
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for simply following his faith and protesting against infanticide. You see, there is a deeply,
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deeply anti-Christian campaign going on in the country. And I expect it from the libs,
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but when you see it from a Republican member of Congress, that's a big problem.
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Had the gal not been fired, I'd say, okay, move on, accept the apology. Because you also want to
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give people an off-ramp. I don't know what motivated this guy, Max Miller, to send his tweet. Maybe he was
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really tired, he was overworked, he was drunk. I have no idea. But I've said plenty of things that I
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come to regret or that I didn't even believe at the time. So I'm totally willing to extend grace.
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But there needs to be an explanation for why this woman lost her job. Because right now,
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does not look good. Does not look, and it would seem to be part of a broader campaign
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to attack Christians in the United States, which is a Christian nation, which has been founded from
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the very, very beginning to be a Christian nation. Without which Christian soul, without which Christian
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spirit, the country, in the words of our own founding fathers, the country doesn't make
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Kathy Hochul, the Democrat governor of New York, she is not happy with all the illegal aliens who are
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making it to New York after conservative governors like Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott in Texas and
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others have passed along the great benefit of all those illegal aliens. You know that wonderful
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expression of diversity, which is our strength? Well, Texas and Florida, they don't want to hog
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all of that wonderful diversity for themselves. They want to pass some of it along to Martha's Vineyard
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and Rehoboth Beach and to New York. And Kathy Hochul says, hey, hey, hey, we didn't ask for this.
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Do you think the city may have dropped the ball somewhat in dealing with this crisis? Over 100,000
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migrants arriving in New York City since spring of last year.
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No, the mayor has had extraordinary challenges. He didn't invite all these individuals in. I think
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there was an expectation that not so many would be allowed to come to the border or that they'd
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relocate in other states. So no, this is nothing anyone could have anticipated. And it's been an
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We didn't ask for this. No one could have anticipated this.
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You literally asked for it. You and Eric Adams and many Democrats who preceded both of you
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in New York have asked for it when you have described New York as a sanctuary state.
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When you describe New York City as a sanctuary city. That is the same thing as telling illegal
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aliens, come here. You're not welcome in other parts of the country. You are welcome here. Please
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come here. But they say please come here when they don't think that the Florida governors are going
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to help those illegal aliens who generally don't have a lot of money make that long voyage. It's very
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easy to say please come here when you're a thousand miles away or more. Because you think, well, these
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guys, they're probably not going to hop on a Greyhound bus. So it's going to be El Paso's problem.
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It's going to be Texas's problem. Until Abbott and DeSantis start chartering flights. Then they
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come there and they say, wait, we don't want this. We want you guys to have all the diversity. Okay.
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Well, that's the reality. The reality of a sanctuary state is this massive increase in disorder and
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dysfunction and crime and housing problems and all the rest of it that goes along with it. And I'm so
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glad that New York finally gets to see that so closely. Speaking of the rule of law,
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there's good news and then there's bad news. The good news was Donald Trump was planning a press
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conference at which he was going to double down on claims of 2020 election fraud and provide a 100
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page report that apparently documents it. The bad news is he's just canceled the press conference
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because a bunch of news organizations reported that Trump's lawyers were advising him to cancel
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the event because such an event would expose him to further legal consequences. Here is what Trump
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said. He said, a large, complex, detailed, but irrefutable report on the presidential election
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fraud, which took place in Georgia, is almost complete and will be presented by me at a major
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news conference at 11 a.m. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of
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this conclusive report, all charges should be dropped against me and others. There will be a
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complete exoneration. They never went after those that rigged the election. They only went after those
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that fought to find the rigors. The rigors, not R-I-G-O-R-S, R-I-G-G-E-R-S, rigors.
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I love this. I wish you did the press conference. I think it was a bad idea to cancel it, and I don't
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know what those lawyers were thinking. I do know what they were thinking. They were thinking, oh no,
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Trump, please, Mr. President, please shut up about the election fraud because they're going to put
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more charges on you, and that's going to complicate the 2024 election. Guys, I see that. I get that.
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I recognize that prudence is the highest political virtue.
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Trump is currently facing over 700 years in prison.
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There is an argument to be made based on the statutes involved in the charges against Trump
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that they could try to execute him. Okay, I don't think one more press conference is going to hurt.
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Oh no, if he has another press conference, they might try to throw him in prison for 800 years.
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Guys, we're so past that. And from the political side of it, people are going to say,
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just move on. Stop talking about the 2020 election. Just talk about the future.
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Yeah, maybe. Maybe, theoretically, it would be better if we could talk about 2024 rather than 2020.
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They're trying to throw the guy in prison over 2020. They're trying to throw the current leader
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of the opposition, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, in prison for the 2020 election.
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It is not possible to avoid talking about the 2020 election in 2024.
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But if only we could just talk about our brand new tax plan, that would win over so many more
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suburban voters. Yeah, sure, if my grandma had wheels, it should be a wagon. But you can't do that
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because the election will hinge largely around the person of Trump unless something drastically changes.
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The election and the candidacy of Donald Trump will hinge largely around the multiple indictments
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that he's under, the hundreds of years in prison that he's facing. And all of that is going to hinge
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on the 2020 election. So you can't avoid it. Guys, you've got to talk about it. Trump can't run away
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from his claims that the 2020 election was rigged. The only reason he's the presumptive nominee right now
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is because he's claiming the 2020 election was rigged. That's how he's still got Mojo to run.
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George H.W. Bush couldn't have run again in 1996 after losing in 1992 because he lost and everyone
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knew he lost. With Trump, there were, to my mind, very legitimate questions to be raised about the
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ways the Democrats rigged the election. But even if you don't believe that, even if you think it was a
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totally fair election and the Democrats, they would never cheat or anything, and they just coincidentally
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changed all the rules right before the election. Even if you think that, the reason that he is a
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candidate right now and a plausible candidate is because he can claim that the election was stolen
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and a lot of people will believe it because we have eyes and ears and we read news reports and
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saw what happened. So you can't run away from that. I would just double down. I would just recognize
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that the only way out is through. Speaking of Trump and those poll numbers, new poll out from NPR and
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Marist showing that not only is Trump leading the pack on the primary side of things, but he is neck
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and neck with Biden nationally. Biden 47, Trump 46, so statistically a tie, which is a tough argument.
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And it's a tough fact for the people making the argument that Trump can't possibly win a general
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election. And also among independents, Trump is leading Biden by a lot. According to NPR Marist,
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obviously not a right-wing poll, Trump is up eight points among independents over Joe Biden.
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Then you look at the Harvard-Harris poll, Trump is currently leading Biden for president by five points,
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45 to 40. And among independents, Trump is leading Biden by 18 points, 45 to 27. Still,
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you're going to hear this argument from some people who prefer other candidates. They're going to say,
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well, Trump just can't win the general election. Sure, he's dominating the primary, but he can't
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win a general election. What is your evidence of that? The only evidence of that is the 2020 election,
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which, as we've just pointed out, is hotly disputed. I think legitimately so because the
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Democrats changed all the rules right before the election. Some of those rules have been
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fortunately changed back a little bit, but who knows? Maybe we're just through the looking glass
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and we're not going to get a fair shake for the near future. The other reason why that argument is
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weak is all the people right now who are making the argument that Trump can't win a general election
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made the same argument in 2016. I'm not saying it's 100% every single person is identical to the
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people who made that argument in 2016, but the overlap is pretty substantial. You can't help but
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notice it. And so that argument doesn't have credibility because all the people making it were
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wrong about that argument in 2016. He obviously can win a general election. He already did. He's now
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run in two national elections, one with basically ordinary voting rules, one where they completely
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upended the voting rules in ways that open up the system to a lot of fraud, as even Barack Obama
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admitted about widespread mail-in ballots and extending the voting period far beyond voting day.
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Obama made that argument about 10 years ago before it was advantageous for his side to do it during
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COVID. Regardless, though, you can't make that argument. And when you look at these numbers, again,
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we take polls, we take all social science with a grain of salt. I don't see how one can argue
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that Trump doesn't have a shot in an even relatively fair election. I'm not saying he's
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going to win. I'm not convinced he's going to win at all. Even if he is the nominee, I'm not going to
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put all bet the farm on that. But to say he doesn't have a shot, guys, look at the facts. Look at the
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numbers. Don't look at what the chattering class is saying. Don't just look at what all the GOP genius
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about all the spicy topics that YouTube won't let us talk about. Okay, speaking of spice and the sexual
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revolution and weak arguments like we were talking about in 2024, there is some anti-marriage
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propaganda going around on TikTok. This video is going everywhere. I cannot ignore it any longer.
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If you're watching, you can see it. If not, I will describe, if you're only listening, I will describe
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what's happening. A pretty young girl, nice looking, happy. She puts an engagement ring on,
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on the wrong hand, actually. And every time she puts it on, she sees a vision of herself cooking,
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cleaning, being barefoot and pregnant, holding a baby, working so hard. And she puts it down.
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She says, no, thank you. I'm out. I'm out. Don't need that. Don't want marriage. And the thing about
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this clip, people are saying, on the one hand, this is not true. This is not true. That's not what
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marriage is like at all. And on the other hand, obviously, people on the other side are saying,
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that is what marriage is. That's why you got to flee. And the reality of this clip, of this
00:25:17.900
anti-marriage propaganda is, it's half true. It's half true in that when you get married,
00:25:25.900
you will be cooking and cleaning. And if you're a good wife, you'll be cooking and cleaning and
00:25:32.100
having babies and taking care of the babies and keeping a home. And you'll be doing,
00:25:36.440
you will be doing all those things. Some are pointing out, well, you're doing a lot of those
00:25:41.960
things anyway, even if you're not married, you know, cooking and cleaning at the very least,
00:25:45.440
doing laundry. Yeah, that's true. But it's not even in the same stratosphere, okay? The amount of
00:25:52.040
just laundry that exists when you have even one baby, not that I know much about this. It's not
00:25:57.680
like I've ever done probably a single load of laundry at my house, but I see it. I see my wife. My wife
00:26:02.560
does a lot of it. She works very, very hard. That's true. You do all of that.
00:26:09.580
And there is joy that comes from that. The real answer to this anti-marriage propaganda is,
00:26:16.100
what else would you be doing? And the setting for the video is so perfectly telling here,
00:26:22.360
because it's at a nice looking little brunch spot. That's where it is. Nice little outdoor
00:26:27.720
patio, cafe, sitting at a table. That's where the guy's proposing. And that is the alternative.
00:26:34.260
If you don't want to get married, if you don't want to have a baby, if you don't want to commit
00:26:38.400
to religious life, and marriage isn't for everybody, if you don't want to consecrate your
00:26:43.060
singlehood to something greater than your own pursuit of pleasure, then you're just going to
00:26:48.740
have a lot of brunch. And you know what? At every single discreet moment, the brunch is going to seem
00:26:57.860
more pleasant than getting married and having a baby and raising a family until it's not at all,
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until it's misery inducing, and until you realize that the family is this joy that I couldn't even
00:27:15.700
possibly express. So you get, I get home from work. I've been on the road. I've been working hard.
00:27:22.760
My wife, she's been working very hard. We sit down. We're just so bone tired. And then the kids come
00:27:28.140
over and they, they do something that's like demanding more of our energy and attention.
00:27:33.220
We're just like, I can't go. I just want to sit and watch an episode and I just want to go eat brunch
00:27:36.700
somewhere or something. And then your little kid just says something or just looks at you and just
00:27:41.280
kind of giggles and smiles or something. And your heart swells up. It's so great. What are you going
00:27:45.960
to do? You're going to do something in your life. And so then the question becomes deeper.
00:27:51.000
The question is, is the point of your life to receive a lot of pleasure, to feel really pleasant
00:27:58.020
all the time, or whether we're talking about material pleasure, whether we're talking about
00:28:03.940
pursuing your career ambition or something like that, or do you have more of a purpose? Do you have
00:28:09.020
a biological purpose? Does your body imply a purpose? Does the fact that you're a social
00:28:15.460
creature and a complimentary creature, and that, that, uh, in the words of Thomas Aquinas,
00:28:21.180
human beings are pairing creatures. So men are for women and women are for men. Does that point you
00:28:27.280
towards something that will be more fulfilling? You're right, lady. If you get married, you're going
00:28:30.660
to work a lot harder than you're working now as some bubbly little feminist 22 year old girl
00:28:36.800
eating brunch. That's true. You'll also live a much happier life. Work is not the enemy. Okay.
00:28:44.100
Sloth will not make you happy. Mimosas will not make you happy, at least not for very long.
00:28:49.000
Speaking of women's issues and stories that I almost certainly will not be able to talk about on YouTube.
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I'm just going to read the headline. I'm not even going to, I'm not even going to introduce it. The
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headline is transgender Muslim woman demands ex-boyfriend return his frozen testicles.
00:29:14.380
A Michigan man who identifies as a Muslim woman has filed a legal claim to retrieve his,
00:29:19.860
it's the woman, but it's his amputated testicles from his ex-boyfriend's refrigerator.
00:29:28.860
And this is just the first paragraph. Defendant retains possession. So I guess it's hard with all
00:29:33.720
the hisses because it's two dudes, one of whom pretends to be a woman, but they both have testicles.
00:29:39.980
And so it's confusing where the his refers to, but I think it's that the ex-boyfriend
00:29:44.240
possesses the gonads of the man who now says he's a woman and they split up and,
00:29:50.160
and the man who thinks he's a woman wants his, his gonads back. Defendant retains possession of
00:29:55.560
my surgically extracted testicles preserved in a mason jar kept in the fridge next to the eggs.
00:30:02.600
How is this real? Demand immediate return of my human remains specimen and damages of $6,500
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writes 40-year-old, 40-year-old Brianna Kingsley. I assume his real name is Brian.
00:30:14.980
This was in an affidavit to 37-year-old William Wolczyszczaczewski, according to a report by Redux.
00:30:20.320
Okay, I'm going to leave the news story there. There's something deeper to this story than just
00:30:27.040
the absurdity and sensationalism of the headline and what these people look like and the body part
00:30:33.260
at stake here. This is the logical conclusion of a libertarian premise, which is the principle of
00:30:43.200
self-ownership. Okay, we live in a society now that treats our body as property to be commoditized and
00:30:53.900
sold. The libs have done this by pushing the sexual revolution. The right has done this by making an
00:31:01.080
idol out of capitalism and commerce. This is why you will hear left-wing and even some right-wing
00:31:08.080
kind of people or right-wing libertarian types say that we should legalize prostitution or say that
00:31:14.580
they have no problem with pornography or say that, well, at least on those two, those are two examples
00:31:20.340
where you are very clearly treating your body as property that you can sell. I mean, the most extreme
00:31:27.040
libertarians will say you ought to be able to sell your organs because your body is property. And it
00:31:30.960
comes from this principle of self-sovereignty and self-ownership, which many, even conservative
00:31:36.540
people would say that they believe in. But it's fundamentally wrong because you don't own your
00:31:42.340
body. You are your body and you are your soul. You are a steward of your body and your soul,
00:31:52.960
but you are not accountable only to yourself. You don't get to do whatever the hell you want to do.
00:31:57.680
You are accountable to him who made you, who gave you your life, who gave you your body and your soul.
00:32:04.020
You're accountable to God. And we are accountable to God in many ways, one of which is by
00:32:08.440
following the moral law, the natural law, the objective moral order in the cosmos, okay?
00:32:16.160
That is why you don't get to pretend to be the opposite sex. That's why you don't get to do a ton
00:32:22.260
of weird sex stuff. That's why you don't get to chop yourself up and follow all sorts of fantasies.
00:32:27.960
That's all the philosophical and theological reason. The practical legal reason is if you treat
00:32:34.240
your body as property, you're going to get into really weird situations like this, where you
00:32:39.220
commoditize yourself, you chop off part of your body, you give it to your boyfriend as a gift,
00:32:45.740
not a great gift of, you know, he makes Van Gogh look positively sane. You know, I'd much rather
00:32:50.180
receive an ear in the mail than whatever this guy gave to his boyfriend. But then you'll get into
00:32:54.740
a moment of regret where you realize, wait a second, my body is not just some piece of property.
00:32:57.960
It's not like I gave him a mixtape. These are my family jewels here, okay? Not diamonds or rubies,
00:33:02.920
something even more precious to me. Give those back. I don't really have the right to give those
00:33:06.260
away. That's completely insane. So the guy, this obvious lunatic, the guy who says he's a Muslim woman,
00:33:11.700
he is recognizing that at some deep level, even if it's not at a conscious level,
00:33:16.700
and he's demanding it back, what will the courts do now? Remains to be seen. Because we live,
00:33:22.460
the law still tends to reflect the old classical understanding that you don't get to just like
00:33:27.460
sell your body parts and give them away. But the culture reflects the modern libertarian
00:33:32.640
understanding, which is that you own your body as a piece of property and you can do with it as you
00:33:37.300
please. Where will the courts land? Remains to be seen. Speaking of, speaking of what to do with
00:33:45.300
your body and how to chop parts of it off. You obviously don't want to chop off organs or anything
00:33:50.080
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oh my gosh, goodness gracious. We're already at the mailbag. I have so many more things to get to.
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That'll just be my tease for this weekend, or maybe we'll talk about it in all access today. But now,
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50% off your first month. Take it away. Hi, Michael. Arun here, username Arun Parody in the chat.
00:35:01.940
First of all, I'm not the real Arun. I just happened to share his voice, face, home address, bank account,
00:35:06.840
social security number, parents, and wife. But I'm not him. Never even met the guy.
00:35:11.960
Anyway, I'm calling in to discuss the issue of space aliens, on which you and Matt Walsh,
00:35:16.060
both of whom I love, no homo, have taken equally absurd positions on opposite ends of the spectrum.
00:35:21.680
As I understand it, you object to the existence of intelligent aliens because the existence of
00:35:26.440
such an intelligent non-human race would preclude your belief that Jesus is the savior of all mankind,
00:35:31.780
i.e. the children of Adam. Now, I'm familiar with the New Testament and the particulars of Roman
00:35:36.140
Catholic theology, and I disagree with your claim that these are mutually exclusive assertions.
00:35:40.660
And I say this as someone who doesn't believe in Jesus. I merely believe that the existence of
00:35:44.660
aliens is unrelated to the question of whether Jesus is the savior of mankind, and I'm curious
00:35:49.700
to hear you expand on why you believe otherwise. Now, on the other hand, Matt Walsh starts with the
00:35:54.380
very reasonable premise that intelligent life evolved on other planets as it did here. I think that this is
00:35:59.560
statistically likely, and as a Hindu, I believe that any such life was created by God,
00:36:03.880
with immortal souls that are subject to the law of karma. However, Matt errs, in my opinion,
00:36:08.660
by expressing the inane proposition that UFOs, which in all likelihood are radar blips and optical
00:36:13.440
illusions, are in fact aliens that have managed to breach the light speed barrier and come here only
00:36:18.700
to prank us by hinting at their presence without revealing themselves. It's far more likely that this
00:36:23.780
narrative is promulgated by the Democrats to distract from the many crimes of the Biden family,
00:36:27.920
who should be prosecuted under the very RICO laws that are being weaponized against Donald Trump at the
00:36:32.160
moment. Anyway, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, and if you think there can be a middle
00:36:36.400
ground between yours and Matt's current position on aliens. Thank you, as always, for your wisdom.
00:36:42.360
Arun, as always, very articulately stated. You totally get to it, and I totally agree with you
00:36:48.540
on Matt. I also, my view has been slightly caricatured, I think, which is that people say that I think that
00:36:55.020
all the alien sightings are demons or something, which is not my view. My view is that probably a lot of it is,
00:37:00.740
as you say, optical illusions, little radar blips, and the government's trying to cover up various
00:37:09.120
weapons programs. Though I do think that some of it, in as much as people do see shadowy little gray
00:37:14.520
figures, very possibly could be demons, which I certainly think exist, as virtually everybody for
00:37:20.700
all of human history. Now, to the question of the statistical likelihood, I guess this is where we
00:37:26.580
disagree. Because in order to ascertain the statistical likelihood of life existing elsewhere
00:37:34.320
in the universe, we would have to know something about how life arises in the first place. And there
00:37:39.820
are people who hold a deeply held religious belief in some theory of evolution or other, who believe that
00:37:49.340
life arises just naturally or inevitably is a process of complexity over time, develops amid, I don't
00:37:58.280
know, I don't know what. I don't know what because nobody knows what because no one has ever shown the
00:38:03.700
natural process by which we go from inorganic to organic, but from which we go to inanimate, I should
00:38:10.780
say, inanimate to animate. I just don't, I've never seen it. So it would seem to me, to me at least, that
00:38:18.640
the development of life is much, much, much more special. That it's not the inevitable product of
00:38:23.920
some natural process. So therefore, if it were the latter, then the vastness of the universe might imply
00:38:30.460
that statistically it would be likely that life would arise elsewhere. But if it's the former, as I
00:38:34.680
believe, or at least as I have no reason not to believe, then if the universe could be 50 gazillion times
00:38:41.700
larger than it already is, and that would still not imply anything about the statistical likelihood of life
00:38:46.520
arising anywhere else in the world. The other reason, just from the Christian perspective, is we hear about a
00:38:53.920
lot of different things in the Bible, all sorts of things that we don't know much about. Leviathan, Nephilim,
00:39:00.880
principalities and powers, spiritual wickedness in high places, orders of angels, demons, all sorts of
00:39:06.840
things. Don't, don't you think if there were little green men out there somewhere that might have popped
00:39:14.400
up? I don't know, it seems like a pretty glaring omission to say nothing about what it implies for
00:39:20.520
salvation history. So anyway, as usual, Arun, I deeply respect your points, but I'm afraid the most
00:39:28.780
insightful part of your question was when you pointed out that Matt Walsh is wrong. Next question.
00:39:34.760
Hello, Michael, big fan. I just watched your interview with Tracy Shannon, and while I can't help but feel
00:39:39.200
terrible for what happened to her and her children, there were a couple things in there that really did not sit
00:39:44.000
right with me. Tracy refers to being asked by her husband to do some unusual things in the bedroom as, quote,
00:39:50.520
sexual abuse and coercion. To me, this is an extremely grave false accusation. This smacks of
00:39:57.200
the Me Too movement, and I was hoping you would push back on this claim a little bit more.
00:40:01.580
As a conservative movement, I hope we can distinguish going forward between a false belief
00:40:06.980
that upends your entire life and causes you to not be able to fulfill your duties to your children
00:40:11.700
and a bizarre sexual fetish that is kept relatively within its proper place inside the bedroom.
00:40:17.280
This, obviously, was not kept to the bedroom, but speaking as a Catholic who himself struggles
00:40:22.940
with some pretty severe fetishism, I'm very thankful that my own is not the kind that will
00:40:27.820
compel me to grievously hurt others or to upend my own life, but there but for the grace of God go I.
00:40:34.020
I know your advice to me might be simply knock it off and be normal, but as you know, this is much
00:40:39.160
easier said than done. I hope that, God willing, if I ever were to get married, and gathered the courage
00:40:45.280
to explain my desires to my wife and to open up to her about them, that she would be receptive or at
00:40:50.780
least understanding and patient with me, not threaten me with divorce or accuse me of something
00:40:56.000
tantamount to rape, like Tracy Shannon did. Am I being too harsh on her here? Please let me know
00:41:01.960
your thoughts, Michael. Thanks. You are. You are being too harsh, and it's a very good question,
00:41:05.820
but you, but you're wrong, and, and you're wrong in the way that unmarried guys are wrong. You're
00:41:14.980
saying, look, I've got all these bizarre sexual desires, and I just hope that my wife accommodates
00:41:20.540
them someday. That is not the Catholic view of sex. The Catholic view of sex is that sex has a
00:41:26.660
purpose, okay, and the purpose is not just to indulge whatever fantasies you have. Even if you say, well,
00:41:32.500
they're not violent fantasies, they're just some other kind of fantasy. Right, even that, not a great
00:41:38.800
idea. The other, the other reason you're wrong here is because you are viewing desire at, in, in the
00:41:47.100
way that Freud might view desire, which is that you got to blow off a little steam, and if you don't
00:41:51.920
indulge some of these desires, then they're going to totally warp your mind and go, go out of control.
00:41:56.500
That's very different from the Aristotelian view of desire, which is that it's a habit, and so you
00:42:02.020
cultivate habits, and the more you indulge, say, these sexual fetishes and desires that you have,
00:42:07.120
that's not going to alleviate those desires. It's going to exacerbate them. It's going to make it
00:42:11.100
worse, actually. So the best thing that you can do is try to tamp them down a little bit, and obviously,
00:42:16.580
in a way that is prudent, you ought to try to turn your desire. It's a fallen world, and we're subject
00:42:26.040
to concupiscence, so it's probably not going to totally work, but you should try to turn your
00:42:30.160
desire toward that which is properly ordered, and, and you will find, this is not just a sex thing,
00:42:36.640
this is true of all disordered desires, you will find that those disordered desires abate, at least
00:42:41.920
to some degree. If, as you say, you struggle with these desires now, I don't know, I'm not accusing you
00:42:47.640
of looking at pornography or anything like that, or even fantasizing, but don't forget, even the
00:42:51.960
willful entertainment of, of disordered and impure and unchaste thoughts and desires, even that
00:42:59.680
is a sin if you do it willfully, and so you should really work on that, because the basic reason is
00:43:07.060
because sex is not about just you and fulfilling your pleasure. Sex is about the other person, your
00:43:14.060
spouse, one hopes, and about fully giving of yourself to the other person, not merely, you know,
00:43:19.420
titillating yourself, and, and doing that in such a way that the love between you two becomes so real
00:43:24.320
that it creates another person. Okay, next question. To put a button on that. Hello, Michael. Hold on,
00:43:29.840
pause that question. To put a button on that, no, no husband or wife has the right to the indulgence of,
00:43:39.580
of, of some disordered sexual desire by his spouse or her husband for the purpose of, of pure pleasure.
00:43:48.900
I mean, that, that's a very modern view of sex. It's not a, not a Christian view of sex. Next
00:43:52.760
question. Hello, Michael. This is Brian coming to you from a village named after a word derived from
00:43:59.220
the Native American language, meaning mud turtle. You mentioned in the past, you would like to have
00:44:04.360
a deeper cigar discussion on your program. I do need your cigar expertise. What is your protocol after
00:44:11.400
you have enjoyed a fine cigar in a delicious beverage, and you want to have some romance with
00:44:16.320
sweeten a little lease, and you go up to her, and she says, Mark, get away from me with that filthy
00:44:21.280
cigar breath. My question to you is, when I would like to get fresh with the bride of my youth after
00:44:27.080
enjoying a Monte Cristo white series and a delicious beverage, what can I do to prevent from hearing,
00:44:32.640
Brian, get away from me with that filthy cigar breath. I appreciate all you do. Continue being
00:44:38.520
the light. Anytime you're blowing through the windy city, let me know. We can have a chat over a Monte
00:44:43.680
Cristo. Take care. Bye. Beautifully stated question. You have the cigar afterward. That's the real
00:44:54.940
answer. You know, you're the head of your household. You call the shots ultimately. Prudence is an
00:45:03.520
important, we keep, prudence keeps coming up today. Prudence is an important virtue, and the prudent
00:45:07.780
thing to do is, you save the cigar for the end of the night. That's what you do. We have more voice
00:45:13.580
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00:45:16.500
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