The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1312 - Christianity Called ＂Bigoted＂ As Attacks Continue

00:00:00.000 Remember a few years ago, when we all discovered that Mitt Romney had an alter ego?

00:00:05.200 Senator Romney, we learned, went by a pseudonym, Pierre Delecto. And as Pierre Delecto, Romney

00:00:12.880 liked and replied to tweets from journalists and from some of his colleagues in Congress.

00:00:19.000 Okay. Well, it turns out there's another politician in Washington with a nom de plume.

00:00:24.100 This time it's President Biden, whose pseudonym is Robert L. Peters. And as Robert L. Peters,

00:00:32.340 President Biden emailed Hunter Biden's crooked business associates and scheduled secret phone

00:00:38.020 calls with the president of Ukraine while running U.S. policy on the Eastern European nation.

00:00:44.080 A little bit different, very different uses of pseudonyms. The House Committee on Oversight

00:00:50.280 and Accountability has uncovered Biden's secret identity, which appears to have been a little

00:00:56.120 bit more focused and a little bit more lucrative than Mitt Romney's silly burner account.

00:01:00.980 The committee has actually uncovered that Biden used multiple pseudonymous accounts to secretly

00:01:07.840 conduct business with his son and foreign powers while he was vice president. Those other pseudonyms

00:01:14.560 include Robin Ware, JRB Ware, and who knows how many others. This fact might explain why Joe Biden

00:01:23.320 struggles these days to remember his own name. He has so many of them, it's difficult to keep track.

00:01:30.180 Also might explain why Joe Biden managed to forget and deny all of the times that we now know he heard

00:01:37.300 about, participated in, and apparently profited immensely from all those crooked business deals.

00:01:43.980 It wasn't him, after all. It was Robert L. Peters. But something tells me, despite the committee's

00:01:52.400 request for more records, that the executive agencies are going to continue to stonewall.

00:01:57.340 They're not going to go after Joe Biden, or Robert Peters, or Robin Ware, or any other Biden persona. 0.75

00:02:04.500 They're not going to go after the current president for being a crook. They're too busy prosecuting the

00:02:11.120 former president for opposing him. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:23.080 Welcome back to the show. There's some real anti-marriage propaganda going around on TikTok.

00:02:29.040 Whether this is propaganda sent from the Chinese through TikTok, or just from insufferable American 0.73

00:02:35.340 leftists, we will get to it. First, though, I've got to turn my attention to a Republican.

00:02:43.500 Back to Congress, back to Capitol Hill, to a Republican there, though. This is a bizarre saga.

00:02:49.100 I was traveling a little bit the last couple of days, and so I'm just catching up on it now,

00:02:53.920 which I'm glad it actually took me a little while, because there have been some new developments.

00:02:57.600 Over in Ohio, there's a GOP conservative activist and campaigner by the name of Lizzie Marbach,

00:03:06.520 and she tweeted out this quote,

00:03:09.560 There is no hope for any of us outside of having faith in Jesus Christ alone.

00:03:14.780 Okay. It's a pretty basic profession of the Christian faith. The Christian creed begins,

00:03:21.460 I believe in God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and in Jesus Christ,

00:03:24.500 his only Son, our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary,

00:03:27.380 suffered from Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. The rest of the creed goes on.

00:03:30.980 And so this is a very, very basic expression of what you believe if you're a Christian.

00:03:39.100 There's no hope for any of us outside of having faith in Jesus Christ alone. Okay.

00:03:43.300 Also, this is a private citizen, a woman with not very many followers on Twitter, 0.98

00:03:48.300 who has worked in politics and has campaigned and apparently worked for the Ohio Right to Life.

00:03:53.100 Okay. Then a sitting Republican congressman quote tweets this lady and says, 0.82

00:04:02.280 This is one of the most bigoted tweets I have ever seen. Delete it, Lizzie. Delete it. Delete it,

00:04:10.900 Christian. Religious freedom in the United States applies to every religion. You've gone too far. 0.90

00:04:15.520 However, this is one of the most bigoted tweets I've ever seen. This is an insane,

00:04:21.160 completely egregious tweet. The translation of which is,

00:04:25.220 This profession of Christian faith is one of the most biggest tweets I've ever seen. Delete 0.98

00:04:30.420 your expression of faith, Lizzie. Religious freedom in the United States applies to every religion,

00:04:35.400 except for Christianity, apparently. You've gone too far. Okay. So, completely insane, 0.99

00:04:41.180 completely unacceptable, truly, truly scandalous stuff from a sitting member of Congress, Max Miller,

00:04:47.100 a Republican to boot. But he then recognized his error. So, not too long afterward, he tweets out,

00:04:56.660 I posted something earlier that conveyed a message that I did not intend. I will not try to hide my

00:05:01.420 mistake or run from it. I sincerely apologize to Lizzie and to everyone who read my post.

00:05:05.180 I'm really glad to see this because he says, I sincerely apologize. I was wrong. I did something

00:05:12.480 wrong. Sorry. And I'm generally, I try to be quick to accept apologies. I try to be slow to anger

00:05:21.120 and quick to forgive. That's in the Lord's Prayer. We, please, Father, forgive us our debts as we forgive

00:05:27.880 those who trespass against us. But there's a question raised by this apology. It says,

00:05:34.340 I posted something earlier that conveyed a message I did not intend. So, the obvious question is,

00:05:38.960 well, what message did you intend? This is a pretty blunt tweet. So, what message did you intend?

00:05:46.360 It would seem more reasonable to me that he intended to say exactly what he did said,

00:05:51.360 but he said it in a moment of passion and anger and irrationality. And then he realized once he had

00:05:58.220 cooled off that what he said was completely unacceptable and he regretted it and changed his mind.

00:06:02.760 That, to me, so, that seems much more likely to me. The congressman is more than welcome to come on

00:06:08.860 the show. We can talk about it. It's a little bit of an ambiguous apology, but still, he says,

00:06:14.240 I sincerely apologize. I did something wrong. The thing that I said came out wrong. I'm sorry. Okay.

00:06:21.600 But then, this is really troublesome. It broke last night that Lizzie Marbach, the woman who posted this

00:06:30.640 basic expression of faith, has been fired from her job at Ohio Right to Life. It also came out that

00:06:38.560 the congressman's wife is on the board of Ohio Right to Life. Now, I don't know. Maybe this gal, 0.97

00:06:47.540 Lizzie Marbach, maybe she really messed up something in the office yesterday. Just coincidentally,

00:06:52.340 you know, she poured coffee on the computer. All right, you're fired, gal. But that seems 0.98

00:06:57.040 unlikely to me. It seems likely to me that she was fired in relation to this tweet, this sitting

00:07:01.940 member of Congress attacking her for the most basic expression of the Christian faith I can possibly

00:07:08.520 imagine. And then publicly apologizing, but then she loses her job when the congressman's wife 1.00

00:07:15.520 is on the board of the, it really stinks to high heaven. And so now, while previously I would

00:07:21.540 totally accept that apology, and I think we ought to be as gracious and forgiving as we can be within

00:07:27.420 reason and within prudence, now I have to question that apology. I think we need to call attention to

00:07:34.260 that because it's indicative of a broader problem in the country, which is we talk a lot about religious

00:07:40.760 freedom. We talk a lot about neutrality, and everyone's welcome to believe whatever they want.

00:07:44.740 But there is a concerted effort in this country that has gone on for many, many years to stigmatize

00:07:51.200 Christians and to ostracize them and to push them out of the public square and to kick Christian 1.00

00:07:56.120 beliefs and customs and rituals out of classrooms, government buildings, popular culture, just 0.95

00:08:04.520 everywhere. A big, big problem. And now, when you add on to that, you've got the FBI infiltrating

00:08:13.260 Catholic traditional masses when you've got the FBI coming in, knocking down the doors of pro-life

00:08:20.960 activists, knocking on, you know, the wife opens the door, seven kids there, they arrest the father

00:08:26.640 for simply following his faith and protesting against infanticide. You see, there is a deeply,

00:08:32.260 deeply anti-Christian campaign going on in the country. And I expect it from the libs, 1.00

00:08:37.280 but when you see it from a Republican member of Congress, that's a big problem.

00:08:42.820 Had the gal not been fired, I'd say, okay, move on, accept the apology. Because you also want to

00:08:48.660 give people an off-ramp. I don't know what motivated this guy, Max Miller, to send his tweet. Maybe he was

00:08:55.200 really tired, he was overworked, he was drunk. I have no idea. But I've said plenty of things that I

00:09:00.320 come to regret or that I didn't even believe at the time. So I'm totally willing to extend grace.

00:09:04.640 But there needs to be an explanation for why this woman lost her job. Because right now,

00:09:09.960 does not look good. Does not look, and it would seem to be part of a broader campaign

00:09:15.480 to attack Christians in the United States, which is a Christian nation, which has been founded from

00:09:20.940 the very, very beginning to be a Christian nation. Without which Christian soul, without which Christian 1.00

00:09:28.560 spirit, the country, in the words of our own founding fathers, the country doesn't make

00:09:34.520 any sense. The country can't work. We got to talk about these things. When you want to talk

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00:10:48.060 Kathy Hochul, the Democrat governor of New York, she is not happy with all the illegal aliens who are 1.00

00:10:52.980 making it to New York after conservative governors like Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott in Texas and

00:10:58.960 others have passed along the great benefit of all those illegal aliens. You know that wonderful 0.90

00:11:06.960 expression of diversity, which is our strength? Well, Texas and Florida, they don't want to hog

00:11:11.700 all of that wonderful diversity for themselves. They want to pass some of it along to Martha's Vineyard

00:11:16.500 and Rehoboth Beach and to New York. And Kathy Hochul says, hey, hey, hey, we didn't ask for this.

00:11:22.060 Do you think the city may have dropped the ball somewhat in dealing with this crisis? Over 100,000

00:11:28.240 migrants arriving in New York City since spring of last year.

00:11:32.740 No, the mayor has had extraordinary challenges. He didn't invite all these individuals in. I think

00:11:38.480 there was an expectation that not so many would be allowed to come to the border or that they'd

00:11:42.760 relocate in other states. So no, this is nothing anyone could have anticipated. And it's been an

00:11:46.980 enormous challenge.

00:11:47.900 We didn't ask for this. No one could have anticipated this.

00:11:52.800 You literally asked for it. You and Eric Adams and many Democrats who preceded both of you

00:12:00.820 in New York have asked for it when you have described New York as a sanctuary state.

00:12:06.700 When you describe New York City as a sanctuary city. That is the same thing as telling illegal

00:12:15.400 aliens, come here. You're not welcome in other parts of the country. You are welcome here. Please 0.97

00:12:20.180 come here. But they say please come here when they don't think that the Florida governors are going

00:12:27.820 to help those illegal aliens who generally don't have a lot of money make that long voyage. It's very

00:12:33.480 easy to say please come here when you're a thousand miles away or more. Because you think, well, these

00:12:39.380 guys, they're probably not going to hop on a Greyhound bus. So it's going to be El Paso's problem.

00:12:42.660 It's going to be Texas's problem. Until Abbott and DeSantis start chartering flights. Then they

00:12:50.640 come there and they say, wait, we don't want this. We want you guys to have all the diversity. Okay.

00:12:55.660 Well, that's the reality. The reality of a sanctuary state is this massive increase in disorder and

00:13:02.600 dysfunction and crime and housing problems and all the rest of it that goes along with it. And I'm so

00:13:08.460 glad that New York finally gets to see that so closely. Speaking of the rule of law,

00:13:14.800 there's good news and then there's bad news. The good news was Donald Trump was planning a press

00:13:21.920 conference at which he was going to double down on claims of 2020 election fraud and provide a 100

00:13:27.700 page report that apparently documents it. The bad news is he's just canceled the press conference

00:13:33.760 because a bunch of news organizations reported that Trump's lawyers were advising him to cancel

00:13:41.360 the event because such an event would expose him to further legal consequences. Here is what Trump

00:13:47.820 said. He said, a large, complex, detailed, but irrefutable report on the presidential election

00:13:55.100 fraud, which took place in Georgia, is almost complete and will be presented by me at a major

00:13:59.480 news conference at 11 a.m. on Monday of next week in Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of

00:14:03.980 this conclusive report, all charges should be dropped against me and others. There will be a

00:14:08.920 complete exoneration. They never went after those that rigged the election. They only went after those

00:14:14.060 that fought to find the rigors. The rigors, not R-I-G-O-R-S, R-I-G-G-E-R-S, rigors.

00:14:23.600 I love this. I wish you did the press conference. I think it was a bad idea to cancel it, and I don't

00:14:31.400 know what those lawyers were thinking. I do know what they were thinking. They were thinking, oh no,

00:14:36.040 Trump, please, Mr. President, please shut up about the election fraud because they're going to put

00:14:43.140 more charges on you, and that's going to complicate the 2024 election. Guys, I see that. I get that.

00:14:50.300 I recognize that prudence is the highest political virtue.

00:14:55.660 Trump is currently facing over 700 years in prison.

00:15:01.580 There is an argument to be made based on the statutes involved in the charges against Trump

00:15:06.780 that they could try to execute him. Okay, I don't think one more press conference is going to hurt.

00:15:15.000 Oh no, if he has another press conference, they might try to throw him in prison for 800 years.

00:15:19.460 Guys, we're so past that. And from the political side of it, people are going to say,

00:15:25.440 just move on. Stop talking about the 2020 election. Just talk about the future.

00:15:30.540 Yeah, maybe. Maybe, theoretically, it would be better if we could talk about 2024 rather than 2020.

00:15:39.700 They're trying to throw the guy in prison over 2020. They're trying to throw the current leader

00:15:44.900 of the opposition, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, in prison for the 2020 election.

00:15:51.280 It is not possible to avoid talking about the 2020 election in 2024.

00:15:56.560 But if only we could just talk about our brand new tax plan, that would win over so many more

00:16:02.040 suburban voters. Yeah, sure, if my grandma had wheels, it should be a wagon. But you can't do that 1.00

00:16:07.060 because the election will hinge largely around the person of Trump unless something drastically changes.

00:16:13.260 The election and the candidacy of Donald Trump will hinge largely around the multiple indictments

00:16:19.860 that he's under, the hundreds of years in prison that he's facing. And all of that is going to hinge

00:16:24.500 on the 2020 election. So you can't avoid it. Guys, you've got to talk about it. Trump can't run away

00:16:29.760 from his claims that the 2020 election was rigged. The only reason he's the presumptive nominee right now

00:16:34.920 is because he's claiming the 2020 election was rigged. That's how he's still got Mojo to run.

00:16:41.800 George H.W. Bush couldn't have run again in 1996 after losing in 1992 because he lost and everyone

00:16:47.140 knew he lost. With Trump, there were, to my mind, very legitimate questions to be raised about the

00:16:54.220 ways the Democrats rigged the election. But even if you don't believe that, even if you think it was a

00:17:00.180 totally fair election and the Democrats, they would never cheat or anything, and they just coincidentally

00:17:04.120 changed all the rules right before the election. Even if you think that, the reason that he is a

00:17:10.020 candidate right now and a plausible candidate is because he can claim that the election was stolen

00:17:15.660 and a lot of people will believe it because we have eyes and ears and we read news reports and

00:17:19.720 saw what happened. So you can't run away from that. I would just double down. I would just recognize

00:17:25.500 that the only way out is through. Speaking of Trump and those poll numbers, new poll out from NPR and

00:17:34.100 Marist showing that not only is Trump leading the pack on the primary side of things, but he is neck

00:17:41.220 and neck with Biden nationally. Biden 47, Trump 46, so statistically a tie, which is a tough argument.

00:17:50.360 And it's a tough fact for the people making the argument that Trump can't possibly win a general

00:17:54.900 election. And also among independents, Trump is leading Biden by a lot. According to NPR Marist,

00:18:02.540 obviously not a right-wing poll, Trump is up eight points among independents over Joe Biden.

00:18:07.740 Then you look at the Harvard-Harris poll, Trump is currently leading Biden for president by five points,

00:18:13.000 45 to 40. And among independents, Trump is leading Biden by 18 points, 45 to 27. Still,

00:18:21.840 you're going to hear this argument from some people who prefer other candidates. They're going to say,

00:18:26.720 well, Trump just can't win the general election. Sure, he's dominating the primary, but he can't

00:18:30.500 win a general election. What is your evidence of that? The only evidence of that is the 2020 election,

00:18:38.120 which, as we've just pointed out, is hotly disputed. I think legitimately so because the

00:18:42.600 Democrats changed all the rules right before the election. Some of those rules have been

00:18:46.420 fortunately changed back a little bit, but who knows? Maybe we're just through the looking glass

00:18:50.620 and we're not going to get a fair shake for the near future. The other reason why that argument is

00:18:55.440 weak is all the people right now who are making the argument that Trump can't win a general election

00:19:00.380 made the same argument in 2016. I'm not saying it's 100% every single person is identical to the

00:19:09.960 people who made that argument in 2016, but the overlap is pretty substantial. You can't help but

00:19:14.780 notice it. And so that argument doesn't have credibility because all the people making it were

00:19:20.020 wrong about that argument in 2016. He obviously can win a general election. He already did. He's now

00:19:27.280 run in two national elections, one with basically ordinary voting rules, one where they completely

00:19:34.000 upended the voting rules in ways that open up the system to a lot of fraud, as even Barack Obama

00:19:40.060 admitted about widespread mail-in ballots and extending the voting period far beyond voting day.

00:19:45.240 Obama made that argument about 10 years ago before it was advantageous for his side to do it during

00:19:50.720 COVID. Regardless, though, you can't make that argument. And when you look at these numbers, again,

00:19:56.540 we take polls, we take all social science with a grain of salt. I don't see how one can argue

00:20:03.020 that Trump doesn't have a shot in an even relatively fair election. I'm not saying he's

00:20:08.940 going to win. I'm not convinced he's going to win at all. Even if he is the nominee, I'm not going to

00:20:13.520 put all bet the farm on that. But to say he doesn't have a shot, guys, look at the facts. Look at the

00:20:20.200 numbers. Don't look at what the chattering class is saying. Don't just look at what all the GOP genius

00:20:25.560 consultants are saying, people who have been wrong time and time again. Just look at the numbers and

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00:23:09.220 today. My favorite comment yesterday from Vanilla Southpaw, Michael's going soft. None of his show was

00:23:16.180 censored on YouTube today. I want to correct that, okay? Because that's, I see why you would think that,

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00:24:04.840 about all the spicy topics that YouTube won't let us talk about. Okay, speaking of spice and the sexual

00:24:13.620 revolution and weak arguments like we were talking about in 2024, there is some anti-marriage

00:24:20.340 propaganda going around on TikTok. This video is going everywhere. I cannot ignore it any longer.

00:24:26.700 If you're watching, you can see it. If not, I will describe, if you're only listening, I will describe

00:24:31.020 what's happening. A pretty young girl, nice looking, happy. She puts an engagement ring on,

00:24:39.180 on the wrong hand, actually. And every time she puts it on, she sees a vision of herself cooking,

00:24:48.280 cleaning, being barefoot and pregnant, holding a baby, working so hard. And she puts it down.

00:24:53.560 She says, no, thank you. I'm out. I'm out. Don't need that. Don't want marriage. And the thing about

00:24:58.840 this clip, people are saying, on the one hand, this is not true. This is not true. That's not what

00:25:07.940 marriage is like at all. And on the other hand, obviously, people on the other side are saying,

00:25:13.860 that is what marriage is. That's why you got to flee. And the reality of this clip, of this

00:25:17.900 anti-marriage propaganda is, it's half true. It's half true in that when you get married, 1.00

00:25:25.900 you will be cooking and cleaning. And if you're a good wife, you'll be cooking and cleaning and 1.00

00:25:32.100 having babies and taking care of the babies and keeping a home. And you'll be doing,

00:25:36.440 you will be doing all those things. Some are pointing out, well, you're doing a lot of those

00:25:41.960 things anyway, even if you're not married, you know, cooking and cleaning at the very least,

00:25:45.440 doing laundry. Yeah, that's true. But it's not even in the same stratosphere, okay? The amount of

00:25:52.040 just laundry that exists when you have even one baby, not that I know much about this. It's not

00:25:57.680 like I've ever done probably a single load of laundry at my house, but I see it. I see my wife. My wife

00:26:02.560 does a lot of it. She works very, very hard. That's true. You do all of that.

00:26:09.580 And there is joy that comes from that. The real answer to this anti-marriage propaganda is,

00:26:16.100 what else would you be doing? And the setting for the video is so perfectly telling here,

00:26:22.360 because it's at a nice looking little brunch spot. That's where it is. Nice little outdoor

00:26:27.720 patio, cafe, sitting at a table. That's where the guy's proposing. And that is the alternative.

00:26:34.260 If you don't want to get married, if you don't want to have a baby, if you don't want to commit

00:26:38.400 to religious life, and marriage isn't for everybody, if you don't want to consecrate your

00:26:43.060 singlehood to something greater than your own pursuit of pleasure, then you're just going to

00:26:48.740 have a lot of brunch. And you know what? At every single discreet moment, the brunch is going to seem

00:26:57.860 more pleasant than getting married and having a baby and raising a family until it's not at all,

00:27:06.800 until it's misery inducing, and until you realize that the family is this joy that I couldn't even

00:27:15.700 possibly express. So you get, I get home from work. I've been on the road. I've been working hard.

00:27:22.760 My wife, she's been working very hard. We sit down. We're just so bone tired. And then the kids come

00:27:28.140 over and they, they do something that's like demanding more of our energy and attention.

00:27:33.220 We're just like, I can't go. I just want to sit and watch an episode and I just want to go eat brunch

00:27:36.700 somewhere or something. And then your little kid just says something or just looks at you and just

00:27:41.280 kind of giggles and smiles or something. And your heart swells up. It's so great. What are you going

00:27:45.960 to do? You're going to do something in your life. And so then the question becomes deeper.

00:27:51.000 The question is, is the point of your life to receive a lot of pleasure, to feel really pleasant

00:27:58.020 all the time, or whether we're talking about material pleasure, whether we're talking about

00:28:03.940 pursuing your career ambition or something like that, or do you have more of a purpose? Do you have

00:28:09.020 a biological purpose? Does your body imply a purpose? Does the fact that you're a social

00:28:15.460 creature and a complimentary creature, and that, that, uh, in the words of Thomas Aquinas,

00:28:21.180 human beings are pairing creatures. So men are for women and women are for men. Does that point you 0.65

00:28:27.280 towards something that will be more fulfilling? You're right, lady. If you get married, you're going

00:28:30.660 to work a lot harder than you're working now as some bubbly little feminist 22 year old girl 1.00

00:28:36.800 eating brunch. That's true. You'll also live a much happier life. Work is not the enemy. Okay.

00:28:44.100 Sloth will not make you happy. Mimosas will not make you happy, at least not for very long.

00:28:49.000 Speaking of women's issues and stories that I almost certainly will not be able to talk about on YouTube.

00:28:55.420 I'm just going to read the headline. I'm not even going to, I'm not even going to introduce it. The

00:29:01.440 headline is transgender Muslim woman demands ex-boyfriend return his frozen testicles. 0.99

00:29:14.380 A Michigan man who identifies as a Muslim woman has filed a legal claim to retrieve his, 0.99

00:29:19.860 it's the woman, but it's his amputated testicles from his ex-boyfriend's refrigerator. 0.98

00:29:28.860 And this is just the first paragraph. Defendant retains possession. So I guess it's hard with all 0.99

00:29:33.720 the hisses because it's two dudes, one of whom pretends to be a woman, but they both have testicles. 0.99

00:29:39.980 And so it's confusing where the his refers to, but I think it's that the ex-boyfriend 0.99

00:29:44.240 possesses the gonads of the man who now says he's a woman and they split up and, 0.57

00:29:50.160 and the man who thinks he's a woman wants his, his gonads back. Defendant retains possession of

00:29:55.560 my surgically extracted testicles preserved in a mason jar kept in the fridge next to the eggs. 0.99

00:30:02.600 How is this real? Demand immediate return of my human remains specimen and damages of $6,500

00:30:09.120 writes 40-year-old, 40-year-old Brianna Kingsley. I assume his real name is Brian.

00:30:14.980 This was in an affidavit to 37-year-old William Wolczyszczaczewski, according to a report by Redux.

00:30:20.320 Okay, I'm going to leave the news story there. There's something deeper to this story than just

00:30:27.040 the absurdity and sensationalism of the headline and what these people look like and the body part

00:30:33.260 at stake here. This is the logical conclusion of a libertarian premise, which is the principle of

00:30:43.200 self-ownership. Okay, we live in a society now that treats our body as property to be commoditized and

00:30:53.900 sold. The libs have done this by pushing the sexual revolution. The right has done this by making an 1.00

00:31:01.080 idol out of capitalism and commerce. This is why you will hear left-wing and even some right-wing

00:31:08.080 kind of people or right-wing libertarian types say that we should legalize prostitution or say that

00:31:14.580 they have no problem with pornography or say that, well, at least on those two, those are two examples

00:31:20.340 where you are very clearly treating your body as property that you can sell. I mean, the most extreme

00:31:27.040 libertarians will say you ought to be able to sell your organs because your body is property. And it

00:31:30.960 comes from this principle of self-sovereignty and self-ownership, which many, even conservative

00:31:36.540 people would say that they believe in. But it's fundamentally wrong because you don't own your

00:31:42.340 body. You are your body and you are your soul. You are a steward of your body and your soul,

00:31:52.960 but you are not accountable only to yourself. You don't get to do whatever the hell you want to do.

00:31:57.680 You are accountable to him who made you, who gave you your life, who gave you your body and your soul.

00:32:04.020 You're accountable to God. And we are accountable to God in many ways, one of which is by

00:32:08.440 following the moral law, the natural law, the objective moral order in the cosmos, okay?

00:32:16.160 That is why you don't get to pretend to be the opposite sex. That's why you don't get to do a ton 1.00

00:32:22.260 of weird sex stuff. That's why you don't get to chop yourself up and follow all sorts of fantasies.

00:32:27.960 That's all the philosophical and theological reason. The practical legal reason is if you treat

00:32:34.240 your body as property, you're going to get into really weird situations like this, where you

00:32:39.220 commoditize yourself, you chop off part of your body, you give it to your boyfriend as a gift,

00:32:45.740 not a great gift of, you know, he makes Van Gogh look positively sane. You know, I'd much rather

00:32:50.180 receive an ear in the mail than whatever this guy gave to his boyfriend. But then you'll get into

00:32:54.740 a moment of regret where you realize, wait a second, my body is not just some piece of property.

00:32:57.960 It's not like I gave him a mixtape. These are my family jewels here, okay? Not diamonds or rubies,

00:33:02.920 something even more precious to me. Give those back. I don't really have the right to give those

00:33:06.260 away. That's completely insane. So the guy, this obvious lunatic, the guy who says he's a Muslim woman,

00:33:11.700 he is recognizing that at some deep level, even if it's not at a conscious level, 0.96

00:33:16.700 and he's demanding it back, what will the courts do now? Remains to be seen. Because we live,

00:33:22.460 the law still tends to reflect the old classical understanding that you don't get to just like

00:33:27.460 sell your body parts and give them away. But the culture reflects the modern libertarian

00:33:32.640 understanding, which is that you own your body as a piece of property and you can do with it as you

00:33:37.300 please. Where will the courts land? Remains to be seen. Speaking of, speaking of what to do with

00:33:45.300 your body and how to chop parts of it off. You obviously don't want to chop off organs or anything

00:33:50.080 like that, but you do need to chop off your stubble, don't you? Of course you do. That's

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00:34:28.680 day of this sale. Now, speaking of dishonesty, oh, are we at the mailbag already? We've made it,

00:34:38.760 oh my gosh, goodness gracious. We're already at the mailbag. I have so many more things to get to.

00:34:43.680 That'll just be my tease for this weekend, or maybe we'll talk about it in all access today. But now,

00:34:48.800 this mailbag is sponsored by Pure Talk. Go to puretalk.com slash Knowles, K-N-A-W-L-E-S to get

00:34:53.120 50% off your first month. Take it away. Hi, Michael. Arun here, username Arun Parody in the chat.

00:35:01.940 First of all, I'm not the real Arun. I just happened to share his voice, face, home address, bank account,

00:35:06.840 social security number, parents, and wife. But I'm not him. Never even met the guy.

00:35:11.960 Anyway, I'm calling in to discuss the issue of space aliens, on which you and Matt Walsh,

00:35:16.060 both of whom I love, no homo, have taken equally absurd positions on opposite ends of the spectrum. 1.00

00:35:21.680 As I understand it, you object to the existence of intelligent aliens because the existence of

00:35:26.440 such an intelligent non-human race would preclude your belief that Jesus is the savior of all mankind,

00:35:31.780 i.e. the children of Adam. Now, I'm familiar with the New Testament and the particulars of Roman

00:35:36.140 Catholic theology, and I disagree with your claim that these are mutually exclusive assertions.

00:35:40.660 And I say this as someone who doesn't believe in Jesus. I merely believe that the existence of

00:35:44.660 aliens is unrelated to the question of whether Jesus is the savior of mankind, and I'm curious

00:35:49.700 to hear you expand on why you believe otherwise. Now, on the other hand, Matt Walsh starts with the

00:35:54.380 very reasonable premise that intelligent life evolved on other planets as it did here. I think that this is

00:35:59.560 statistically likely, and as a Hindu, I believe that any such life was created by God,

00:36:03.880 with immortal souls that are subject to the law of karma. However, Matt errs, in my opinion,

00:36:08.660 by expressing the inane proposition that UFOs, which in all likelihood are radar blips and optical

00:36:13.440 illusions, are in fact aliens that have managed to breach the light speed barrier and come here only

00:36:18.700 to prank us by hinting at their presence without revealing themselves. It's far more likely that this

00:36:23.780 narrative is promulgated by the Democrats to distract from the many crimes of the Biden family,

00:36:27.920 who should be prosecuted under the very RICO laws that are being weaponized against Donald Trump at the

00:36:32.160 moment. Anyway, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, and if you think there can be a middle

00:36:36.400 ground between yours and Matt's current position on aliens. Thank you, as always, for your wisdom.

00:36:42.360 Arun, as always, very articulately stated. You totally get to it, and I totally agree with you

00:36:48.540 on Matt. I also, my view has been slightly caricatured, I think, which is that people say that I think that

00:36:55.020 all the alien sightings are demons or something, which is not my view. My view is that probably a lot of it is,

00:37:00.740 as you say, optical illusions, little radar blips, and the government's trying to cover up various

00:37:09.120 weapons programs. Though I do think that some of it, in as much as people do see shadowy little gray

00:37:14.520 figures, very possibly could be demons, which I certainly think exist, as virtually everybody for

00:37:20.700 all of human history. Now, to the question of the statistical likelihood, I guess this is where we

00:37:26.580 disagree. Because in order to ascertain the statistical likelihood of life existing elsewhere

00:37:34.320 in the universe, we would have to know something about how life arises in the first place. And there

00:37:39.820 are people who hold a deeply held religious belief in some theory of evolution or other, who believe that

00:37:49.340 life arises just naturally or inevitably is a process of complexity over time, develops amid, I don't

00:37:58.280 know, I don't know what. I don't know what because nobody knows what because no one has ever shown the

00:38:03.700 natural process by which we go from inorganic to organic, but from which we go to inanimate, I should

00:38:10.780 say, inanimate to animate. I just don't, I've never seen it. So it would seem to me, to me at least, that

00:38:18.640 the development of life is much, much, much more special. That it's not the inevitable product of

00:38:23.920 some natural process. So therefore, if it were the latter, then the vastness of the universe might imply

00:38:30.460 that statistically it would be likely that life would arise elsewhere. But if it's the former, as I

00:38:34.680 believe, or at least as I have no reason not to believe, then if the universe could be 50 gazillion times

00:38:41.700 larger than it already is, and that would still not imply anything about the statistical likelihood of life

00:38:46.520 arising anywhere else in the world. The other reason, just from the Christian perspective, is we hear about a

00:38:53.920 lot of different things in the Bible, all sorts of things that we don't know much about. Leviathan, Nephilim,

00:39:00.880 principalities and powers, spiritual wickedness in high places, orders of angels, demons, all sorts of

00:39:06.840 things. Don't, don't you think if there were little green men out there somewhere that might have popped 1.00

00:39:14.400 up? I don't know, it seems like a pretty glaring omission to say nothing about what it implies for

00:39:20.520 salvation history. So anyway, as usual, Arun, I deeply respect your points, but I'm afraid the most

00:39:28.780 insightful part of your question was when you pointed out that Matt Walsh is wrong. Next question.

00:39:34.760 Hello, Michael, big fan. I just watched your interview with Tracy Shannon, and while I can't help but feel

00:39:39.200 terrible for what happened to her and her children, there were a couple things in there that really did not sit

00:39:44.000 right with me. Tracy refers to being asked by her husband to do some unusual things in the bedroom as, quote,

00:39:50.520 sexual abuse and coercion. To me, this is an extremely grave false accusation. This smacks of

00:39:57.200 the Me Too movement, and I was hoping you would push back on this claim a little bit more.

00:40:01.580 As a conservative movement, I hope we can distinguish going forward between a false belief

00:40:06.980 that upends your entire life and causes you to not be able to fulfill your duties to your children

00:40:11.700 and a bizarre sexual fetish that is kept relatively within its proper place inside the bedroom.

00:40:17.280 This, obviously, was not kept to the bedroom, but speaking as a Catholic who himself struggles

00:40:22.940 with some pretty severe fetishism, I'm very thankful that my own is not the kind that will

00:40:27.820 compel me to grievously hurt others or to upend my own life, but there but for the grace of God go I.

00:40:34.020 I know your advice to me might be simply knock it off and be normal, but as you know, this is much

00:40:39.160 easier said than done. I hope that, God willing, if I ever were to get married, and gathered the courage

00:40:45.280 to explain my desires to my wife and to open up to her about them, that she would be receptive or at

00:40:50.780 least understanding and patient with me, not threaten me with divorce or accuse me of something

00:40:56.000 tantamount to rape, like Tracy Shannon did. Am I being too harsh on her here? Please let me know 0.57

00:41:01.960 your thoughts, Michael. Thanks. You are. You are being too harsh, and it's a very good question,

00:41:05.820 but you, but you're wrong, and, and you're wrong in the way that unmarried guys are wrong. You're 0.96

00:41:14.980 saying, look, I've got all these bizarre sexual desires, and I just hope that my wife accommodates

00:41:20.540 them someday. That is not the Catholic view of sex. The Catholic view of sex is that sex has a 0.95

00:41:26.660 purpose, okay, and the purpose is not just to indulge whatever fantasies you have. Even if you say, well,

00:41:32.500 they're not violent fantasies, they're just some other kind of fantasy. Right, even that, not a great

00:41:38.800 idea. The other, the other reason you're wrong here is because you are viewing desire at, in, in the

00:41:47.100 way that Freud might view desire, which is that you got to blow off a little steam, and if you don't

00:41:51.920 indulge some of these desires, then they're going to totally warp your mind and go, go out of control.

00:41:56.500 That's very different from the Aristotelian view of desire, which is that it's a habit, and so you

00:42:02.020 cultivate habits, and the more you indulge, say, these sexual fetishes and desires that you have,

00:42:07.120 that's not going to alleviate those desires. It's going to exacerbate them. It's going to make it

00:42:11.100 worse, actually. So the best thing that you can do is try to tamp them down a little bit, and obviously,

00:42:16.580 in a way that is prudent, you ought to try to turn your desire. It's a fallen world, and we're subject

00:42:26.040 to concupiscence, so it's probably not going to totally work, but you should try to turn your

00:42:30.160 desire toward that which is properly ordered, and, and you will find, this is not just a sex thing,

00:42:36.640 this is true of all disordered desires, you will find that those disordered desires abate, at least

00:42:41.920 to some degree. If, as you say, you struggle with these desires now, I don't know, I'm not accusing you

00:42:47.640 of looking at pornography or anything like that, or even fantasizing, but don't forget, even the

00:42:51.960 willful entertainment of, of disordered and impure and unchaste thoughts and desires, even that

00:42:59.680 is a sin if you do it willfully, and so you should really work on that, because the basic reason is

00:43:07.060 because sex is not about just you and fulfilling your pleasure. Sex is about the other person, your

00:43:14.060 spouse, one hopes, and about fully giving of yourself to the other person, not merely, you know,

00:43:19.420 titillating yourself, and, and doing that in such a way that the love between you two becomes so real

00:43:24.320 that it creates another person. Okay, next question. To put a button on that. Hello, Michael. Hold on,

00:43:29.840 pause that question. To put a button on that, no, no husband or wife has the right to the indulgence of,

00:43:39.580 of, of some disordered sexual desire by his spouse or her husband for the purpose of, of pure pleasure.

00:43:48.900 I mean, that, that's a very modern view of sex. It's not a, not a Christian view of sex. Next

00:43:52.760 question. Hello, Michael. This is Brian coming to you from a village named after a word derived from

00:43:59.220 the Native American language, meaning mud turtle. You mentioned in the past, you would like to have

00:44:04.360 a deeper cigar discussion on your program. I do need your cigar expertise. What is your protocol after

00:44:11.400 you have enjoyed a fine cigar in a delicious beverage, and you want to have some romance with

00:44:16.320 sweeten a little lease, and you go up to her, and she says, Mark, get away from me with that filthy 0.98

00:44:21.280 cigar breath. My question to you is, when I would like to get fresh with the bride of my youth after

00:44:27.080 enjoying a Monte Cristo white series and a delicious beverage, what can I do to prevent from hearing,

00:44:32.640 Brian, get away from me with that filthy cigar breath. I appreciate all you do. Continue being

00:44:38.520 the light. Anytime you're blowing through the windy city, let me know. We can have a chat over a Monte

00:44:43.680 Cristo. Take care. Bye. Beautifully stated question. You have the cigar afterward. That's the real

00:44:54.940 answer. You know, you're the head of your household. You call the shots ultimately. Prudence is an 1.00

00:45:03.520 important, we keep, prudence keeps coming up today. Prudence is an important virtue, and the prudent

00:45:07.780 thing to do is, you save the cigar for the end of the night. That's what you do. We have more voice

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The Michael Knowles Show - August 18, 2023

Ep. 1312 - Christianity Called ＂Bigoted＂ As Attacks Continue

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