The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1320 - The Government Throws Pro-Lifers Behind Bars

00:00:00.000 Lauren Handy, Herb Garrity, Heather Edoni, William Goodman, and John Hinshaw.

00:00:07.900 Remember those names.

00:00:09.840 Those are the five latest political prisoners to be thrown in jail by evil regime apparatchiks

00:00:16.200 right here in our own country.

00:00:18.320 And I don't throw the word evil around lightly.

00:00:21.680 Here, the word is entirely appropriate because the evil apparatchiks in Washington, D.C.

00:00:28.320 are imprisoning these five patriots for the simple act of demonstrating against abortion.

00:00:35.540 These five pro-life advocates demonstrated in defense of babies at an abortion mill,

00:00:42.420 an infanticide factory.

00:00:44.080 And for that, they face over a decade in prison.

00:00:48.660 They didn't set off any bombs.

00:00:50.840 They didn't shoot anybody.

00:00:51.960 They didn't do any of that.

00:00:53.200 They just demonstrated against infanticide.

00:00:57.040 Their demonstration apparently violates the FACE Act, a Clinton-era rule outlawing any

00:01:05.320 interference with infanticide whatsoever.

00:01:09.040 BLM can block highways. 1.00

00:01:11.740 Environmentalists, Antifa, they can shut down any city they like.

00:01:15.260 They can stop mothers from driving their children to the hospital, actually, as we saw in one

00:01:19.560 particularly high-profile incident recently.

00:01:22.620 And it doesn't matter.

00:01:23.680 They don't even get a slap on the wrist.

00:01:25.920 But no one is allowed to so much as stand between an abortionist and his next victim.

00:01:33.160 So these pro-lifers have already been sent to jail, potentially for months, as they await

00:01:38.760 sentencing.

00:01:40.460 Even more egregious, the demonstration that got these pro-life advocates imprisoned was a

00:01:45.740 direct response to the earlier discovery of illegal abortions performed by the baby butcher

00:01:51.360 Cesare Sant'Angelo.

00:01:53.320 All abortions are crimes in the sense that they violate the natural law. 0.97

00:01:57.480 But Sant'Angelo's abortions were also crimes according to the civil law.

00:02:01.880 And they were uncovered only because pro-lifers stumbled upon the remains of full-term babies

00:02:07.020 being thrown out with medical waste.

00:02:09.460 A story that our legal and media establishment quickly swept under the rug.

00:02:13.320 And now to tie up loose ends, they're sweeping the pro-life activists under the rug and straight

00:02:19.040 into prison, too.

00:02:20.700 All of which makes one wonder, just like Mitchell and Webb.

00:02:25.760 Are we the baddies?

00:02:27.860 We talk a lot about despotic regimes around the world.

00:02:32.180 One of the key markers of those regimes is, forget about the people they're killing, the

00:02:37.980 injustice against the most vulnerable people in their nations.

00:02:42.800 One of the key markers is how many political prisoners they lock up.

00:02:46.400 And over the course of the last few years, we've gone from relatively few to quite a lot.

00:02:53.740 Hundreds of January 6thers having the book thrown at them over trivial transgressions in most cases.

00:03:00.260 Oh, they're just rioters, some said then.

00:03:02.120 Okay, and then the government arrested the former president and current leader of the opposition.

00:03:08.460 Oh, well, it's just Trump.

00:03:10.120 He did it to himself, some people said.

00:03:13.000 Then the government arrested the opposition leader's lawyers and staff.

00:03:17.520 Oh, well, some said.

00:03:19.420 Some people realized that was a little bit too far.

00:03:21.280 But some people, they said, oh, well, serves them right.

00:03:23.740 They were working for Trump.

00:03:25.100 Well, now, the government is rounding up ordinary Americans who voice their opposition to the wholesale slaughter of infants.

00:03:36.060 Now, those people are facing over a decade in prison for disagreeing with perhaps the clearest form of injustice in our entire country.

00:03:47.540 That's a lot of dissidents getting thrown in the clink in a short period of time.

00:03:52.440 And there's still a lot of time to go before the election that the liberals refuse to lose.

00:03:59.540 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:04:00.460 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:04:19.600 Welcome back to the show.

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00:04:40.120 Speaking of our sacred democracy and elections, Ukraine President Vladimir Zelensky, the great defender of democracy, has said that he's not going to hold any elections anymore, and he's only going to hold them if the West pays for it.

00:04:55.060 So if we pay for his elections, maybe he'll do it.

00:04:57.420 Otherwise, he's too busy defending democracy, so he can't hold his own elections.

00:05:01.900 Now, here in the United States, the activists, the advocates who are willing to put their freedom on the line, they give me a lot of hope.

00:05:13.320 Young people in particular give me a lot of hope.

00:05:15.080 And one young person especially is giving me a lot of hope.

00:05:20.140 I saw this kid's clip go viral because a number of people tagged me in his clip because I guess some people thought this young man wearing smart-looking chinos and a nice button-down Oxford shirt has his hair parted a little bit off on the side.

00:05:35.660 They thought maybe this young man and I bear a passing resemblance.

00:05:39.640 This is a 12-year-old boy from Harrison School District 2 in Southeast Colorado Springs who was kicked out of class for having a Gadsden flag on his backpack.

00:05:52.440 And a Gadsden flag, that's the one with the snake, and it says, don't tread on me.

00:05:55.900 This is one of the very earliest American flags.

00:05:58.660 It dates back to the American Revolution.

00:06:00.540 It was a flag that was waved very high by the patriots during the revolution.

00:06:04.920 And the DEI counselor and enforcer of liberal policies at this school harangued this young man and his mother for having the audacity to show a symbol of the American Revolution.

00:06:21.820 The reason that they do not want the flag, the reason we do not want the flag to be, is due to its origins with slavery and slave trade.

00:06:37.060 That is what was...

00:06:38.820 Just put a pause right there.

00:06:40.900 So you see the mother says, in the American Revolution, and the woman at the same time, she goes, in slavery.

00:06:45.560 Slavery, it's about...

00:06:46.940 Now, of course, the Gadsden flag has nothing whatsoever to do with slavery.

00:06:53.240 It's just...

00:06:54.040 This isn't something that is debatable or, well, you have your opinion and I have my opinion.

00:06:59.660 There's...

00:07:00.580 It just has no connection.

00:07:01.940 I don't know how else to put it.

00:07:03.020 If you're in any way literate about history of not that long ago, just a couple hundred years, you would know that.

00:07:09.760 But why does this counselor lady think that the Gadsden flag has something to do with slavery? 0.99

00:07:13.920 Well, because she knows that the mother is right, that the flag has to do with the American Revolution, and presumably, she's read the only popular document that has suggested that the American Revolution was about slavery, and that was Nicole Hannah-Jones' The New York Times' 1619 Project, the thesis of which was the American Revolution was fought to protect slavery.

00:07:36.740 It's completely made up.

00:07:38.140 Even left-wing academic historians wrote a letter saying this is complete nonsense.

00:07:41.780 It's not true whatsoever.

00:07:42.760 The New York Times did, after the fact, very subtly have to retract that claim.

00:07:47.920 But it doesn't matter.

00:07:48.680 They put millions and millions of dollars into spreading this total lie, this fake news, and it's made it into schools.

00:07:54.800 It didn't just sit in the newspaper.

00:07:56.400 The point of it was to affect curricula, and it has affected curricula, including the many, many very ignorant—I don't say that to disparage these people.

00:08:04.540 I'm just pointing out they don't know a lot of things, very ignorant apparatchiks who are working around these schools who, I don't know, they read it once in The New York Times, and okay, so now that's the established fact.

00:08:14.980 So you can see how an ignorant person could be duped by that.

00:08:19.220 Well, the consequences, if those ignorant people are in positions of power, then they're going to boot out a basic American symbol. 0.99

00:08:26.520 Keep going.

00:08:26.840 That's the reason you're behind them to not be a slave.

00:08:30.660 The Gadsden blood.

00:08:31.940 The don't tread on me.

00:08:33.420 Okay.

00:08:34.680 Which is the Gadsden blood.

00:08:36.100 Okay.

00:08:36.580 The bag can't go back.

00:08:37.820 It's got a patch on it, because we can't have that in and around other kids.

00:08:40.920 So that's what I was trying, and then he said you were close.

00:08:43.000 So I was like, oh, okay.

00:08:43.600 Yeah, it has nothing to do with slavery.

00:08:45.380 That's like the revolutionary war patch that was displayed when they were fighting the British.

00:08:49.420 I am here to enforce the policy that was provided by the district, and definitely you have every right to not agree with it.

00:08:58.880 I mean, because the ACLU says that he's allowed to wear that.

00:09:02.260 If you, like, go on their website.

00:09:04.280 I love this.

00:09:05.200 It goes on and on for, I think, two and a half, three minutes.

00:09:08.860 And that woman, which she said, this is the most depressing part of the whole video.

00:09:12.340 It's what this ignorant bureaucrat at this school says.

00:09:16.880 He says, yeah, it's about slavery.

00:09:18.380 And the mother goes, it's just not.

00:09:19.920 She goes, yeah, okay.

00:09:21.460 Well, I obviously don't have any arguments to back up my point.

00:09:24.620 So, look, I'm just following orders, man.

00:09:30.240 I'm just here to enforce the policy of the district.

00:09:33.440 I don't know anything about the reasoning for the policy.

00:09:38.020 I don't know anything about American history.

00:09:40.440 I don't care about the justice of the policy or the truth of the claim that it's based on.

00:09:48.740 I'm just kicking your kid out of class anyway. 0.93

00:09:52.380 La, la, la, la, la, la, la.

00:09:54.720 I don't care.

00:09:56.100 I don't care.

00:09:57.880 One of the oldest flags in American history.

00:10:01.500 It's not even my favorite flag.

00:10:03.360 The Gadsden flag is in many ways more anodyne than the earlier American flags.

00:10:09.880 The Gadsden flag is today often associated with the libertarians or the Tea Party.

00:10:15.580 It's often associated with people who basically just are focused on economic issues or who just want to be left alone.

00:10:22.300 It's not the flag waved by hardcore social conservatives, usually.

00:10:28.000 It's not the flag waved by the populists today, usually.

00:10:33.000 Then you could see how maybe it would be slightly more controversial.

00:10:35.500 It's not.

00:10:35.840 It's waved by nice, ordinary libertarians.

00:10:38.380 It's waved by sophomores in college who read Ayn Rand for the first time.

00:10:44.400 It's waved by people who have a passing interest in 18th century American history.

00:10:49.560 It's so basic.

00:10:50.960 It's so anodyne.

00:10:52.680 There are much more hardcore early American flags.

00:10:55.440 The very first American flag, the oldest known flag, is a flag called the Bedford flag.

00:11:00.660 And the Bedford flag is an arm covered in a knight's coat of arms holding a sword.

00:11:06.600 And it says, vince out morire.

00:11:09.140 Win, conquer, or die.

00:11:12.020 That's a little bit more hardcore.

00:11:14.920 And I think, actually, those two flags represent a shift in the way the right is thinking about

00:11:20.180 politics.

00:11:21.040 For many years, for probably the last 30 years, especially over the last 15, the American right

00:11:26.720 has been the Gadsden flag right.

00:11:29.080 Don't tread on me.

00:11:30.120 Leave me alone.

00:11:30.960 Do whatever you want to do.

00:11:32.100 Just don't make me pay for it.

00:11:33.560 And go do your own thing.

00:11:34.540 And I'm going to do my own thing.

00:11:35.720 That hasn't worked.

00:11:36.780 Because bureaucrats like that lady in that school are always going to come and try to stop you 1.00

00:11:41.600 from doing what you want to do.

00:11:42.800 And worse yet, stop you from exercising your rights.

00:11:45.580 And worse yet, stop you from speaking the truth.

00:11:48.220 That's always going to happen.

00:11:49.540 We live in a society.

00:11:50.980 No man is an island entire unto himself.

00:11:53.200 So I think you're going to see a shift from that early American flag, the Gadsden flag,

00:11:57.680 toward an even earlier one.

00:11:59.580 Vince out morire.

00:12:00.640 We are going to win these cultural battles.

00:12:03.720 We're going to duke them out.

00:12:05.020 We're going to win these cultural battles.

00:12:06.620 Or our view is just going to die out.

00:12:08.720 And our traditions are going to die out.

00:12:10.100 And our way of life is going to die out.

00:12:11.700 But we are not all going to just kumbaya agree to disagree and go along to get along.

00:12:17.140 We are going to have to enshrine certain things as true and certain things as false.

00:12:21.640 Either true American history is going to be taught in schools,

00:12:23.860 or the 1619 Project BS is going to be taught in schools.

00:12:27.920 Either that lady is going to be enforcing a false view of American history and bad education policies, 1.00

00:12:34.500 or we're going to boot her out of that school, 1.00

00:12:36.600 and we're going to get a good educator in there to enforce good policies with true facts.

00:12:43.200 This is what Ron DeSantis saw in Florida.

00:12:46.520 This is why DeSantis focused so much on education.

00:12:48.900 We all have to do it.

00:12:49.880 And now, just to put a bow on it, I know people have asked if this young man and I have any relation.

00:12:58.820 I would just like to say, that boy is not my son, to the best of my knowledge.

00:13:05.240 As we hear in The Odyssey by Homer, as we hear in William Shakespeare,

00:13:11.280 it is a wise child who knows his own father.

00:13:14.460 But, as far as I can tell, that boy is not my son.

00:13:17.600 I am proud of him anyway.

00:13:18.460 I am very proud.

00:13:19.700 That is a very sharply dressed, rightly ordered, well-behaved, courageous young man.

00:13:27.260 Good on him, and good on the mother.

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00:14:43.000 Where did this crazy educator get this idea that the American Revolution is about slavery?

00:14:50.520 She got it from one lady, Nicole Hannah-Jones.

00:14:53.300 Nicole Hannah-Jones is a favorite huckster of the left. 0.95

00:14:58.120 She is a fabulist from the New York Times who passes herself off as some kind of academic,

00:15:04.080 though she's not known for any actual academic work.

00:15:06.280 She just goes on to liberal media outlets and whines about racism and makes up stories 1.00

00:15:11.540 about history and wins prizes for it.

00:15:14.660 So Nicole Hannah-Jones just did the same thing. 0.99

00:15:16.900 She showed up on CNN with Jake Tapper to explain the very rapid spread, you probably didn't

00:15:25.360 even notice it, of white supremacy.

00:15:28.400 Since 1968, it is no longer legal in this country to explicitly discriminate against black Americans.

00:15:36.580 So, of course, we've learned over the last 60 years that you have to use different language,

00:15:43.340 that you have to use language that appears to be race neutral, but that sends the same

00:15:48.040 dog whistle.

00:15:48.820 So we can look at, you know, Ron DeSantis running on this platform against what he's calling

00:15:55.320 wokeism, but where those of us who study history, who understand the society that we live in,

00:16:01.700 understand that that's often coded as language against black Americans, as language against

00:16:06.920 other marginalized groups.

00:16:08.560 And how do we know that?

00:16:09.560 Well, he also banned the teaching of African-American advanced placement studies in the state.

00:16:16.080 So, yes, we do see a more coded language, but it's also a language of, you know, that's

00:16:23.540 not often that coded.

00:16:24.800 I mean, Donald Trump is, you know, came to office on a pretty openly white nationalist

00:16:30.940 campaign.

00:16:32.140 We see people like Tucker Carlson, who are allowed to have a major platform on the most

00:16:38.160 watched cable news television in the country.

00:16:41.160 They're all white supremacists.

00:16:42.660 It's all it's all white nationalism.

00:16:44.880 OK, OK.

00:16:45.820 If Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson and Ron DeSantis, if the three most prominent conservatives

00:16:57.940 in America doing different things in different places at different levels of government and

00:17:03.660 society, if if it just so happens that the three most prominent conservatives in America

00:17:08.600 are white nationalists, then I guess we're all just white nationalists, aren't we?

00:17:13.580 I found out Larry Elder, you know, Larry Elder, I know he's black, but he's a white nationalist

00:17:17.940 because that's what the L.A.

00:17:19.340 Times said.

00:17:20.780 Candace Owens, she's a white nationalist, obviously. 1.00

00:17:23.960 We were told that someone in the chat, our friend Arun, a member of the Crème de la Crème

00:17:28.600 here, he pointed out yesterday in the chat that Vivek Ramaswamy, he called him, he said,

00:17:33.180 he's not the black face of white supremacy.

00:17:34.860 He's the red dot on the brown forehead of white supremacy.

00:17:37.840 Everybody's a white supremacist.

00:17:39.900 If if they disagree with Nicole Hannah-Jones, to which I say, OK.

00:17:44.000 I guess that's what we are now.

00:17:45.360 I thought the phrase had more of a meaning than that.

00:17:47.500 I guess it doesn't.

00:17:48.340 So, OK, whatever.

00:17:51.680 No, but did you hear?

00:17:53.840 Did you hear conservatives?

00:17:55.400 We called you white supremacists.

00:17:57.220 All right, I guess.

00:17:58.620 Whatever, man.

00:18:00.340 Like, OK.

00:18:01.900 Aren't you upset?

00:18:03.080 Aren't you going to defend yourself against that charge?

00:18:05.420 No, no, I'm not, because I don't.

00:18:09.880 You've demonstrated that, one, the phrase doesn't mean anything, and two, that you're not arguing

00:18:16.340 in good faith.

00:18:17.160 So, no, why would I defend myself against that?

00:18:20.760 Did Socrates defend himself at his trial?

00:18:23.100 Well, did our Lord defend himself during the passion, during his trial?

00:18:30.660 No.

00:18:31.680 Why?

00:18:32.180 Why is that?

00:18:33.740 Because of their particular virtue, and, you know, in the case of our Lord, it's perfect virtue.

00:18:38.380 Yeah, that's part of it.

00:18:39.840 Also, just as a very practical, prudential matter, what good is to be done with it?

00:18:43.980 You're never going to convince somebody like Nicole Hannah-Jones that you're not a white supremacist.

00:18:47.940 She thinks if you're white, you're a white supremacist.

00:18:49.820 And if you're a black person who disagrees with her, you're a white supremacist.

00:18:53.700 So, who cares?

00:18:55.160 Who cares?

00:18:55.640 Just let it roll on.

00:18:57.360 This is another big shift in the American right.

00:19:00.220 I think even 10 years ago, the American right was very eager to prove to the supposedly open-minded,

00:19:06.640 good-faith, centrist liberals that we're not racist.

00:19:10.140 No, actually, the Democrats are the real racists, and we're not the—

00:19:12.800 But something has shifted, at least in my mind, over the last few years, which is I've come to realize

00:19:19.640 that the phrase is—it's never used in good faith.

00:19:22.760 Even this term, white nationalism, virtually no one had ever even heard of that term

00:19:26.120 until a few years ago when the Libs used it because the word racism had lost its power,

00:19:31.060 because the phrase white supremacy had lost its power because it had been so abused.

00:19:35.700 So, okay, now that's the new one.

00:19:38.080 Whatever.

00:19:39.100 You're going to call me that?

00:19:39.980 I take that to be a badge of honor.

00:19:42.260 I remember Ann Coulter made this point.

00:19:43.540 She visited us when I was in college.

00:19:46.360 She gave a talk, and she said,

00:19:47.800 Kids, don't be discouraged.

00:19:50.160 When a liberal calls you a racist, you know you've won the argument.

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00:21:54.600 Chris Christie is lobbying more attacks at Donald Trump,

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00:22:09.400 I think what we have is a Donald Trump problem,

00:22:12.320 and that right now what's gone on is that people view Donald Trump

00:22:15.960 synonymously with the Republican Party,

00:22:18.460 and that if you oppose Trump, that's somehow favoring Biden.

00:22:22.240 And many Republicans don't want to do that for very obvious reasons.

00:22:26.400 And I think that that's why we need to have this full debate and discussion

00:22:30.500 that we just really started on Wednesday night

00:22:33.600 about who should be leading our party and who should be leading our country.

00:22:37.840 And I've said very clearly on the authoritarian side of things,

00:22:41.520 this is Donald Trump's problem, not the Republican Party's problem.

00:22:44.940 He's the guy who thinks that Vladimir Putin's an excellent leader and brilliant.

00:22:49.980 He's the guy who thinks that President Xi is straight out of Hollywood.

00:22:54.840 He's the guy who thinks Kim Jong-un is wonderful.

00:22:58.600 I mean, these are things that he has said about these authoritarian leaders,

00:23:03.240 and it's because Donald Trump would like to be one himself.

00:23:05.800 He wants to be an authoritarian.

00:23:07.840 So Christie bases his cheap shot on cheaper shots,

00:23:13.320 which is Donald Trump has pointed out that Xi Jinping is apparently a pretty competent leader

00:23:17.920 of his country, which is just indisputably true. 0.96

00:23:20.960 He's able to hold and exercise power pretty effectively in China,

00:23:26.520 in a very large country.

00:23:27.660 That's impressive.

00:23:29.180 He's able to build up his nation's economy and maintain social order.

00:23:34.420 That's impressive.

00:23:34.900 I'm not saying he's a good guy.

00:23:36.100 I'm not saying I agree with him.

00:23:37.820 That's not what Donald Trump is saying either.

00:23:39.940 Same thing about Putin.

00:23:41.440 You think about after communism, after the collapse of the Russian form of government,

00:23:46.120 you had this failed guy, Boris Yeltsin, who had all sorts of personal problems,

00:23:50.560 who wasn't able to maintain or wield power, opened up his country to a lot of corruption.

00:23:54.800 And then Vladimir Putin comes in.

00:23:56.520 He has been able to maintain power pretty effectively, and he's remained very popular

00:24:00.620 among the Russian people.

00:24:01.580 So you're not saying he's a good guy if you point out that this is an effective leader,

00:24:06.300 which is obviously what Trump was doing here.

00:24:08.020 But Christie needs those cheap shots, those disingenuous attacks to build up his broader

00:24:12.460 point, which is that Donald Trump, he loves authoritarian.

00:24:16.240 He's an authoritarian.

00:24:17.140 The conservatives are not, but he is.

00:24:20.060 Okay.

00:24:21.000 Donald Trump waved an LGBT flag on the campaign trail in 2016.

00:24:25.920 Okay.

00:24:26.320 Donald Trump is in no way an authoritarian leader, unless we're defining authoritarian leader as

00:24:33.040 liberal from seven years ago.

00:24:36.380 I don't think I'm overstating this too much.

00:24:39.400 Donald Trump speaks and acts in a rather liberal way by historical standards, because he's slightly

00:24:48.020 more traditional and conservative than, I don't know, Barack Obama or something like that.

00:24:53.720 Now, according to the squishes in the liberals, he's an authoritarian.

00:24:57.320 He's the second coming of Francisco Franco, but it's completely ridiculous.

00:25:01.120 But let's go with Christie for a second.

00:25:03.460 Let's say, Christie, we're right.

00:25:05.120 Let's say Donald Trump really were an authoritarian.

00:25:07.660 Let's say that having men go into the men's bathroom constitutes authoritarianism, for instance.

00:25:16.400 What's the alternative to that?

00:25:18.980 The alternative to supposed conservative authoritarianism is liberal totalitarianism.

00:25:27.160 But make no mistake, liberalism is totalitarian.

00:25:31.120 And what's the distinction between the two?

00:25:33.040 Authoritarianism is when the government says, hey, don't do stuff in the streets that's crazy and weird.

00:25:42.300 Don't just follow whatever impulse you've got in your appetites and parade around on the street wearing leather costumes, smacking each other around.

00:25:51.160 Maybe don't do that, okay?

00:25:53.840 That's what we're calling authoritarian these days.

00:25:56.280 But, like, for instance, the liberals call Viktor Orban in Hungary authoritarian.

00:26:01.640 It's completely ridiculous.

00:26:03.300 But even if he were, what are they saying is authoritarian?

00:26:05.620 Is he goes out and he says, hey, we're a Christian country.

00:26:07.540 You can believe however you want to believe.

00:26:09.480 You can engage in basically whatever practices you want to engage in, in the privacy of your own home.

00:26:15.300 But in public, we're going to be a Christian country and have Christian morality.

00:26:18.920 That's all he says.

00:26:19.360 Because that's what they call authoritarian.

00:26:23.560 But what the liberals insist on is not only that you have to do what they want you to do in public, you have to do it in private, too.

00:26:31.740 You're not allowed to be a conservative within the privacy of your own home.

00:26:38.180 You're not allowed to encourage conservative rituals within the privacy of your own home.

00:26:42.920 They're going to shut down your churches.

00:26:44.220 They're going to go send the FBI in to spy on your mass.

00:26:49.880 They're going to send the FBI to go knock on your door if you're a father of seven, but you're a pro-life advocate and you're a little too vocal.

00:26:56.180 They're going to show up to your house.

00:26:58.760 They're going to, if you oppose the LGBT flag, oh, that's going to be a problem.

00:27:06.320 You're not going to get to wear a Gadsden flag.

00:27:08.780 You're not going to get to maintain your traditions.

00:27:11.100 That's called totalitarianism.

00:27:12.460 The authoritarianism, as people talk about it today in a very shallow way, is just that there's a bedrock set of rules that people have to broadly respect in public, and then they can do whatever they want.

00:27:25.660 Totalitarianism is when the media, when the education system, when the scientific establishment, when obviously the bureaucracy and the institutions of the government, when all of that has to uphold a very rigid ideological set of views.

00:27:39.360 And if anyone breaks them, it's where members of the community, it's where members of the family are going to be encouraged to rat on each other, to attack each other, where you're going to be sent into Thanksgiving dinner, not to have a nice holiday with your family, but to go lecture, to go scold your conservative uncle for his backward views on global warming or whatever.

00:27:59.760 That's totalitarianism.

00:28:01.760 And if those are the two options, conservative so-called authoritarianism, where we say, hey, clean up the streets and act normal, versus liberal totalitarianism, go rat on your uncle and call up the feds if he seems a little too conservative.

00:28:18.960 Give me the conservative version, baby.

00:28:20.800 That's fine by me.

00:28:23.400 I think the chrysons is very steadily collapsing.

00:28:26.960 And you know the biggest irony of all, here's the biggest irony of it all.

00:28:30.740 Chris Christie has made a big point in the last couple of weeks of saying that the most important thing we can do is we've got to support Ukraine.

00:28:38.060 He's flown to Kiev.

00:28:40.560 He's met with Zelensky.

00:28:42.560 He's talked about the importance of just continuing to spend money and arms and ratchet up this proxy war that we're fighting with Russia in Ukraine.

00:28:49.780 We've got to do it.

00:28:51.180 Democracy is on the line.

00:28:52.720 Meanwhile, Vladimir Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, has just come out and announced that he's not going to have elections.

00:28:59.660 The basic element of a democracy, this guy's not going to do.

00:29:05.320 Unless, he said, he's willing to consider holding elections if the United States pays for it.

00:29:12.580 Zelensky said, I told Senator Graham.

00:29:15.880 Okay, I can't do a Ukrainian accent.

00:29:17.580 I can't even really do a Russian.

00:29:18.700 He says, I told Senator Graham, if the United States and Europe give us financial support, I'm sorry, I will not hold elections on credit.

00:29:26.300 I will not take money from weapons and give it to elections either.

00:29:29.960 But if you give me this financial support, if the parliamentarians realize that we need to do this, then let's quickly change the legislation.

00:29:37.460 And most importantly, let's take risks together.

00:29:40.840 But no.

00:29:42.620 Otherwise, I'm not holding these elections.

00:29:46.480 Now, I get it.

00:29:47.380 I get why a nation at war would not hold elections.

00:29:51.180 I get why Vladimir Zelensky has declared martial law.

00:29:54.960 I totally get it.

00:29:56.860 Right?

00:29:57.380 They're at war.

00:29:58.000 It's an existential fight.

00:30:00.740 And also, it was never about democracy.

00:30:03.200 Can we please cut the crap about democracy?

00:30:05.840 Here in the United States, when we pretend that electing Donald Trump is a threat to democracy,

00:30:10.520 that people getting what they want is a threat to democracy, or in Ukraine,

00:30:13.040 we have to defend democracy.

00:30:15.440 We've got to suspend elections indefinitely so we can defend democracy.

00:30:18.460 It's not about democracy.

00:30:20.920 What people are fighting for in Ukraine is liberalism and so-called Western values.

00:30:28.640 That's where we say we have an interest in Ukraine.

00:30:31.220 Because Russia is trying to expand their sphere of influence, and Russia is illiberal and anti-Western.

00:30:37.340 And we're Western, and we're very liberal, and we want to expand our sphere of influence.

00:30:40.480 We want to push the Russians out. 1.00

00:30:41.700 That's openly what people are talking about, once you get past the facade of the democracy talk.

00:30:47.540 Which would be all well and good.

00:30:49.360 But I'm all for the West maintaining its position and hegemony and power. 0.78

00:30:56.580 But what are Western values?

00:30:58.880 What do we mean by Western values?

00:31:01.440 Do we mean Christendom?

00:31:03.980 Do we mean justice?

00:31:05.160 Do we mean the values that built our civilization and allowed it to flourish?

00:31:10.560 Do we mean even truth, justice, and the American way?

00:31:13.480 The Superman values?

00:31:14.700 No.

00:31:14.960 So, Western values today means abortion.

00:31:20.580 Western values means transing the kids. 1.00

00:31:23.960 That's the part they're going to have to bleep that out of YouTube.

00:31:26.420 Western values means all sorts of degeneracy.

00:31:29.380 That's what it's associated with.

00:31:30.820 It's not associated with building new churches.

00:31:33.240 It's not associated with encouraging marriage and encouraging family formation and encouraging virtue.

00:31:38.440 In fact, all of those things are on the decline in the West.

00:31:42.880 So, that's what it's about now.

00:31:44.200 And given that fact, can you see how some American conservatives might be a little bit skeptical of that?

00:31:51.880 Might think it's not worth the blood and the treasure and dragging on a war endlessly with no end in sight?

00:31:57.640 I can understand that.

00:31:59.380 Can you see why some people might think Chris Christie, who is wrong about almost everything, might also be wrong about this?

00:32:04.340 My favorite comment yesterday is from Jake Anderson, 3468, who says,

00:32:10.860 Telling people that there were good governments prior to John Locke is like pulling teeth.

00:32:15.360 I know.

00:32:15.800 This was a problem for a long time.

00:32:17.700 After World War II, the liberals did a great job of infiltrating the American right and turning the right into a bunch of libs.

00:32:24.660 But I think that's kind of fading away.

00:32:27.600 I think we're moving back to a little bit more of a traditional, classical, older understanding of politics in America.

00:32:36.120 I think we're moving back to that Bedford flag.

00:32:38.440 Binsheat Morire.

00:32:40.780 That arm of the knight.

00:32:42.680 Well, who were the knights?

00:32:43.780 The knights were Christian soldiers.

00:32:45.040 They weren't fighting for John Locke and some totally abstracted enlightenment value.

00:32:50.780 They weren't fighting for America is merely an idea and diversity is our strength and we need to be more and more liberal ever more so and let people do it.

00:32:59.100 No, they fought for the values and the beliefs and the way of life that made our civilization great.

00:33:05.280 Now, speaking of less than democratic leaders, not just in Ukraine, back here at home, speaking of despotic governments,

00:33:12.680 you know, Joe Biden got caught using a pseudonym, two pseudonyms, actually.

00:33:20.900 Well, actually more than two pseudonyms, but there were variations on two main themes.

00:33:25.060 This was the latest stage of Joe Biden had no idea what Hunter Biden was doing in his business.

00:33:30.440 And it turned out he had some idea.

00:33:32.140 How do we know that?

00:33:32.720 Because Joe Biden previously said, I never talked to Hunter about my business.

00:33:35.520 Then we found out Hunter admitted, yeah, they did talk about the business.

00:33:38.280 Well, I didn't, I wasn't involved in it at all.

00:33:39.980 Then we found out he actually was meeting with the business partners.

00:33:42.100 He was on 20 plus phone calls with the corrupt people that they were getting money from.

00:33:46.640 He was writing handwritten notes.

00:33:48.120 He was, well, okay, those were just pleasantries that we were just talking about the weather.

00:33:51.760 Okay, well, now we found out that while Joe was vice president, he was conducting business overseas,

00:33:59.700 setting up phone calls with the president of Ukraine, conducting business with his son Hunter using a pseudonym.

00:34:06.580 And still, throughout all of this, what we have heard, the big excuse has been, look, Joe Biden just loves his son.

00:34:14.740 He just really loves his son.

00:34:15.880 His son was going through a rough patch, a real rough patch.

00:34:19.100 But his son, he's an addict.

00:34:21.880 His son, no doubt, is an addict.

00:34:23.440 His son, he was kind of prodigal.

00:34:26.080 Yeah, you could say that again.

00:34:27.400 His son, and he just loves his son and he's not going to lose his son.

00:34:30.280 So he was just trying to stay in touch with his son.

00:34:34.400 Okay, well, now the National Archives have uncovered as many as 5,400 records containing the pseudonyms that Joe Biden used while he was vice president.

00:34:47.100 Approximately 5,138 emails, 25 electronic files, 200 pages of potentially responsive records in response to a FOIA search requested by the Southeastern Legal Foundation.

00:35:00.280 5,400 records.

00:35:01.980 Man, Joe Biden must really love his son and really want to express that love for his son as secretly as possible.

00:35:10.880 Why would Joe Biden use a pseudonym as vice president?

00:35:15.800 Because he wants to avoid FOIA requests.

00:35:18.060 Because there are laws that allow for transparency in government in the United States.

00:35:23.600 And Joe Biden was doing things that he did not want to be transparent.

00:35:27.700 And he was doing those things with his son.

00:35:29.280 Don't you think if he merely loved his son and just wanted to give him a pat on the back, attaboy, we're here for you, son, I think he wouldn't be ashamed of doing that in public.

00:35:37.720 I think he probably, as a politician, he'd probably like to do that in public.

00:35:40.980 But that's not what was going on.

00:35:43.460 Joe Biden was shaking down foreign leaders or having his proxy, Hunter Biden, shake down foreign leaders on the family's behalf.

00:35:52.220 So this excuse is gone.

00:35:53.900 He really just loves his son.

00:35:55.020 And that excuse is out the window.

00:35:57.280 You're seeing a lot of drip, drip, drip, drip, drip of the Biden corruption.

00:36:00.780 It probably doesn't matter.

00:36:02.240 If Biden is the only choice, the liberals will still vote for him and he might well win.

00:36:06.420 If, though, there is another choice, if a Gavin Newsom really seems like a plausible presidential candidate, then this drip, drip, drip would seem to not be coincidental.

00:36:18.100 Okay?

00:36:18.360 As we're now a little over a year outside of the election, there is a non-zero chance that putting health aside, Joe Biden is not the nominee.

00:36:25.960 I think still overwhelmingly the chances he will be the nominee, this really opens up a door because it is clear as day this guy is crooked.

00:36:37.280 It's not just that I want to attack Joe Biden.

00:36:39.220 I think there are some Democrat presidents who are not crooked, crooked.

00:36:43.380 You know, Barack Obama did some corrupt things, but he was an ideologue.

00:36:46.220 I think he actually believed in what he was doing.

00:36:48.840 Not so Joe Biden.

00:36:50.480 Joe Biden doesn't believe in anything, and he's enriched himself and his family tremendously, and that's coming out now.

00:36:55.520 So, if Biden's out, who's going to take over?

00:36:59.180 If the Republicans manage to win, what happens?

00:37:01.380 Well, we had the debate.

00:37:03.860 This was supposed to be the big shakeup in the campaign, and the polls are out, and according to Morning Consult, Trump's lead is unshaken.

00:37:14.960 Trump is as strong today as the frontrunner of the GOP as he was before the debate.

00:37:21.180 I know there are a lot of people who are not going to want to hear that, but I'm giving it to you straight, man.

00:37:25.960 I don't sugarcoat it.

00:37:27.780 I'm not going to do that thing the Democrats did in 2016.

00:37:30.440 You remember?

00:37:31.000 It was like three months after Trump was sworn in, and they would say, here's the one weird trick that Bernie can use to still win the nomination.

00:37:39.360 No, man, it's over.

00:37:40.080 The race, that race was over, okay?

00:37:42.340 And this race is not over, but what we were told was just wait until DeSantis starts to make moves to run for president.

00:37:49.000 Then he's going to jump in the polls.

00:37:50.360 Didn't happen.

00:37:51.120 Well, just wait until he declares.

00:37:52.700 Then he's going to jump in the polls.

00:37:54.160 Didn't happen.

00:37:55.360 Well, just wait until the debate.

00:37:58.520 Then he's going to jump in the polls.

00:37:59.820 You're seeing maybe a little movement in certain states, but generally speaking, nationally, Donald Trump still has a 44-point lead over Ron DeSantis.

00:38:08.760 According to Morning Consult, Trump is the first choice for 58% of Republican primary voters.

00:38:14.320 That's a clear majority.

00:38:16.080 This is in a field of, what, nine or ten people?

00:38:19.500 And the clear majority say we want Trump.

00:38:23.260 14 for DeSantis and lower numbers for everybody else.

00:38:28.620 This is as I predicted.

00:38:30.200 And some people have accused me of shilling for Trump because I predicted this.

00:38:33.420 I would have predicted this even if I totally detested Donald Trump.

00:38:38.080 The reason I predicted this is the only way that the debate could have really mattered is if Trump were there.

00:38:47.760 Because the only person who could really move the needle is Trump because Trump had the dominant lead in the party and continues to have the dominant lead.

00:38:53.520 So the only person who could have done something positively or negatively to really shake up the race would have been Donald Trump.

00:39:01.240 He's just got a clear majority of the voters.

00:39:04.040 And he didn't show up.

00:39:05.800 So you might say, well, a lot of people watched the debate and not that many people watched the Tucker Carlson interview with Trump.

00:39:11.120 Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.

00:39:12.020 It's hard to tell what the Twitter analytics really mean.

00:39:14.840 It doesn't matter.

00:39:15.540 Trump could have gone back home and watched a rerun of Home Improvement.

00:39:20.420 He didn't need to do anything.

00:39:22.280 By not doing anything, he protected himself.

00:39:25.420 The only way for Trump to go at that debate by showing up was down.

00:39:31.300 What was he going to do?

00:39:32.200 He was going to go from 58 to 59.

00:39:35.160 He already had so much strength in the polls that very likely, especially the fact that Trump is a little loose with his language, almost certainly the only way he could have gone was down.

00:39:44.460 So he skipped and avoided that.

00:39:46.100 And as a result, the polls basically are where they are.

00:39:49.580 And the other candidates are going to continue to duke it out on the number two rate.

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00:40:26.220 So, one of those people who's making moves and is pretty bold, Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:40:33.340 You know, I like the guy.

00:40:34.020 He's a friend of mine of some years.

00:40:36.480 And there's one thing that I don't like about Vivek.

00:40:39.400 There's one thing.

00:40:40.220 And listen, friends have spats, and I'm willing to come out with this one.

00:40:44.220 I hated the rapping.

00:40:48.800 You know, at the Iowa State Fair, he was rapping.

00:40:50.420 He did a rap of Eminem, who I really can't stand.

00:40:53.620 I don't like his music at all.

00:40:56.220 And he did it.

00:40:57.040 And I know it worked.

00:40:57.980 And I know that people got a kick out of it.

00:40:59.600 And it's probably an effective campaign tactic.

00:41:01.680 But I just, it drove me crazy.

00:41:04.260 And it drove Eminem crazy, too.

00:41:05.860 So, Eminem has just come out and demanded that Vivek stop rapping his music.

00:41:10.740 Now, this happens every cycle.

00:41:12.300 Anytime any candidate gets attention and a candidate plays any popular song at his rallies or his campaign stops,

00:41:21.400 then the artist, who 99 out of 100 times is a big lib,

00:41:25.640 comes out and makes a big splash in the headlines.

00:41:27.500 You need to stop using my song.

00:41:29.360 You're illegally playing my song.

00:41:30.960 And I demand that you don't play my music at your rally.

00:41:33.460 And it's so dumb.

00:41:34.360 And it's such a shameless ploy for attention.

00:41:36.780 But usually, they have a point.

00:41:40.680 Usually, they can say, you're playing an unlicensed version of my song.

00:41:44.100 What's amazing about Vivek shows you that he's a graduate of the number one law school in the country.

00:41:49.420 Is he apparently got the license.

00:41:53.960 So, Eminem came out, and he couldn't demand that Vivek stop rapping.

00:41:59.260 You would think that this little rapping type thing was just a spur of the moment thing.

00:42:03.060 And maybe it was the first time.

00:42:04.360 But then, because Vivek is a very sharp lawyer and a very shrewd politician, even though he's never run for anything before.

00:42:09.120 However, he apparently went out and got the license so that he could stop exactly what Eminem is trying to do right now.

00:42:17.040 So, Eminem, even more impotently than the musical artists usually have to do, he comes out and he says,

00:42:22.860 Hey, I demand that BMI, who holds the catalog, 0.87

00:42:27.740 I demand that BMI revoke the license that Vivek apparently has on my song.

00:42:33.400 Because I don't want it to happen.

00:42:36.200 So, BMI sent a letter to Vivek, says,

00:42:39.860 This letter serves as notice that Eminem works are excluded from the agreement, effective immediately.

00:42:47.800 BMI will consider any performance of the Eminem works by the Vivek 2024 campaign from this date forward

00:42:52.680 to be a material breach of the agreement for which BMI reserves all rights and remedies with respect here to.

00:42:58.420 So, legally, I don't know if they can actually do that, if they can say,

00:43:00.980 Hold on, we're taking it out of the agreement.

00:43:02.600 You don't get to do Eminem anymore.

00:43:03.880 But, regardless, now I have to flip-flop.

00:43:09.020 Because I don't like Eminem's alleged music, and I don't like it when serious people rap.

00:43:17.680 But Vivek should be rapping at every campaign stop now.

00:43:21.240 This is so funny.

00:43:22.280 This is such a great way to show not only are the conservatives bold and courageous and willing to mix things up and everything,

00:43:32.480 but that also we sometimes can outsmart the libs, too, and get those licenses.

00:43:36.420 Okay, there's a lot more to get to.

00:43:38.940 New York City wants to expand the public broadcast of Muslim prayer.

00:43:45.440 New York is about to become, you know, Mecca or Medina or something like that.

00:43:51.260 The late-night hosts have been out of work for over three months.

00:43:54.680 Most people don't even know that, like Jimmy Kimmel and those guys.

00:43:57.540 So, now they're going to try to take my job.

00:43:59.860 That's what they're going after.

00:44:00.860 There's so much more to get to.

00:44:02.700 That's all my T's.

00:44:04.000 It's my T's for tomorrow.

00:44:05.060 Because today is Woke Wednesday.

00:44:06.000 We've got to get to the member block.

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The Michael Knowles Show - August 30, 2023

Ep. 1320 - The Government Throws Pro-Lifers Behind Bars

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