Ep. 1325 - The Not-So-Secret Sex Life of Barack Obama
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Is Barack Obama a gay crackhead? According to Larry Sinclair, a recent guest on Tucker's show who claims to have firsthand knowledge of Obama s proclivity for both drugs and homoerotic fantasies, the answer might surprise you.
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Is Barack Obama a gay crackhead? He is, according to Larry Sinclair, a recent guest on Tucker's show
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who claims to have firsthand, as it were, knowledge of Obama's proclivity for both
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drugs and friends of Dorothy. You're just a guy who's in town for the night and it sounds like
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you're looking to party. Yeah. Pulled up in a bar outside and there's this guy that's introduced to
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me as Barack Obama. I had given Barack $250 to pay for coke. I start putting a line on a CD tray to
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snort and next thing I know he's got a little pipe and he's smoking. So I just started rubbing my hand
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along his thigh to see where it was going and it went the direction I had intended it to go. Even
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though you had sex with him twice, you did cocaine with him, watched him smoke crack twice, you had no
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idea who he was. I had no idea who he was. You just asked the obvious question, what was Obama like on
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crack? Is it your sense that that's who Obama is, just transactional or that he's bisexual or like
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what is this? It definitely wasn't Barack's first time and I would almost be willing to bet you it
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wasn't as long. The guy's running for president and credible information comes out that he's smoking
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crack and having sex with dudes. That seems like a story. Well, it would be a story if the media really
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cared about telling people the truth. Now, I'm not saying the man is credible, but I will say
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he sounds a lot more credible than Christine Blasey Ford, who accused Justice Brett Kavanaugh of trying
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to rape her when they were 15 or something. He sounds a lot more credible than that Bergdorf Goodman lady
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who said that Trump ravished her in a department store dressing room. In both of those cases,
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their stories kept changing. And in the case of Ford, there's no evidence she ever even met Kavanaugh.
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In the case of Larry Sinclair, he's been keeping his story straight. Well, not exactly straight,
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obviously, but his story consistent since 2007, which raises another question.
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Larry Sinclair has been telling his story since 2007. So why are people only talking about it now?
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In part, you might say, it's because Obama's long out of office, so the media no longer feel the need
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to protect him. Maybe. But the media still love Obama. They still carry water for him all the time.
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That's not why this conspiracy theory is finally being discussed more seriously. What's changed is
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not how the media view Barack Obama. What's changed is how we view conspiracy theories,
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since so many of them have come true. Today, unlike in 2007, we know that there actually is
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an elite pedophile ring comprising some of the most prominent people on earth.
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They even have their own island. We've seen the pictures of it. We know that the virus that served
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as a pretext to shut down the world almost certainly did leak from a biolab, contrary to what we were told
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at the time. That was a conspiracy theory, remember? We know that the measures imposed
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on us to fight that virus were pretty much all bogus, ineffective when they weren't outright
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harmful and intentionally dishonest. We know that the DOJ used made-up evidence to spy on Donald Trump's
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campaign. We know that the FBI just this past year was spying on Catholic parishes and then lying about
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it. We know that the CIA had a relationship with John F. Kennedy's assassin. We even now know that
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they actually were turning the frickin' frogs gay. So is it really such a stretch to believe that the
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effete politician who admitted in writing his penchant for cocaine and homoerotic fantasies
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might have done some weird drug and sex stuff with the guy in Chicago?
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I'm not saying I believe it. But at this point, there is very little that would surprise me.
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speaking of male camaraderie, the liberals are throwing the Proud Boys in prison for decades.
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These are people who walked around the Capitol on January 6th, the worst day in the history of the
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world, the day when the light of democracy was almost snuffed out forever. These are people who,
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I'm not saying they didn't make a nuisance of themselves. I'm not saying they weren't a little bit
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rowdy, but compared to what the liberals have done, the environmental activists, the BLM activists,
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Antifa, compared to those guys who have nary gotten a slap on the wrist, what the Proud Boys and the
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rest of the January 6thers did is child's play. And they had the book thrown at them. While the BLM
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rioters who burned down cities, who killed people, who looted coast to coast, many of them were dismissed
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even without a warning. You know, they just had the charges dropped. The Proud Boys now are going
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to prison for, what, 10 years, 17 years. In the case of the leader, Enrique Tarria, who wasn't even
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in D.C. on January 6th, he's got 22 years in prison for the seditious conspiracy to, I don't know,
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go take a photo with Nancy Pelosi's lectern. I don't know, the seditious, treasonous conspiracy,
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the very near coup d'etat that involved cracking a Coors Light in the Capitol Rotunda.
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These must be the worst insurrectionists in the history of America because they didn't bring
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any weapons. I don't know what they thought was going to happen. I don't know what the liberals
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thought that the supposed insurrectionists were going to do. But more is coming out about the
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Proud Boys. The liberals hate the Proud Boys. They say they're the worst terrorist group in America.
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And the Daily Star has found out about the Proud Boys' initiation rituals. And they say,
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these are the far-right Proud Boys' sick initiation rituals, strict rules concerning
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depraved sexual acts that one performs alone, and violence. That's okay. The sick initiation
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rituals, the strict rules around sexual acts. Okay, well, what are they? What are they? This is what
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the liberals find so repulsive, horrific, terrifying that they've got to lock these guys away for two
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With Helix, better sleep starts now. The Daily Star has taken a deep dive into the Proud Boys' downright
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weird doctrine from its twisted rituals and West is best mentality to its no, I don't want to say this
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on air, no sex alone with yourself decree. Okay, so this is what they say. It's weird, twisted. They say
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the West is best mentality. So if you believe that Western civilization is good, perhaps better than
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other civilizations. That's sick. That's twisted, according to the Daily Star. Nothing seems
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particularly out of the blue with the first stage being to recite the oath. I'm a proud Western
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chauvinist. I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world. Okay, this term is obviously tongue
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in cheek because the word chauvinism comes from Nicolas Chauvin, this French soldier, maybe legendary
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French soldier who was gutted and chopped up and torn up and killed so many times for the French army,
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but he kept going out there to fight. Nothing could possibly stop him from the battle. So it's
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a term that refers to excessive love and pride, and it's a caricature in itself. And the Proud Boys,
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being a fraternity for older fellas, a fraternity for guys in their 30s,
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obviously take part in this kind of hyperbole. So that's obviously hyperbole. I refuse to apologize
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for creating the modern world. Frankly, if there's anything that I object to in the Proud Boys
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initiation ritual, it's the refusal to apologize for making the modern world because the modern
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world is pretty messed up. But anyway, obviously this is just a almost entirely unobjectionable
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sentence. Next, a group of helmet-wearing thugs pummel the pledger until they can name five breakfast
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cereals. This is just hazing. This is just what they do in fraternities. It's not, they're trying
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to make this out as some kind of dark, insane, skinhead, neo-Nazi group. This is the sort of
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thing that you do freshman year in college when you're initiated into a fraternity. And the guys
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come out and they're kind of beating you up a little bit. And they say, you got to say, come on,
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Fruit Loops, Cheerios. Come on, no, I can't. It hurts. Come on, guys. This is really,
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really basic stuff. And of course, writes the Daily Story, you've got to be an alpha male and
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renounce the cancer of feminism. Yeah, feminism's a cancer. It's awful. It's ruined society. It's
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the cause of a number of social problems. It's also a symptom of some social decay.
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It's made women miserable. It's made men miserable. Yeah, total common sense. And being a man requires
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four things. The group's original founder, Gavin McGinnis, previously said, you have to have had a
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broken heart. You have to break someone's heart. You have to beat the SHIT out of someone and you
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have to have the SHIT beaten out of you. That's pretty much true. It's sad that that is the process
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of becoming a man. If you can, avoid breaking someone's heart. If you can, it's bad to break
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someone's heart. So avoid it if you can. It's a fallen world and most of us do it. If you can,
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avoid having your heart broken. But you're not going to be able to do that. If you can,
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avoid beating the SHIT out of someone. But maybe you're going to have to. Sometimes you've got to
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stand up for yourself. And it is a part of growing up to get the SHIT beaten out of you.
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Figuratively, literally, or both. Usually both. Once you've had the Proud Boys tattoo etched on your arm,
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then you pop on the uniform, which consists of a black and yellow Fred Perry polo shirt. So even
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the uniform is kind of ironic and a little bit hipster. And it's just a plain, it's a polo shirt.
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It's just a shirt that normal people wear. It's not a Klan robes with a pointy hat. It's not,
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you shave your head. It's, you just wear a polo shirt and you act like a normal guy.
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The rulebook reads, this is the one that they really got upset with. No heterosexual brother
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of the fraternity shall, shall we say, stimulate himself more than one time in any calendar month.
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Self-stimulation is a lack of impulse control, one member told SBS Dateline. If you control your
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impulses, you can control and regulate most aspects of your life. So the liberals are now
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complaining that the Proud Boys don't want you to be a wanker. That's it. That's it. How perverse is
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our society. That when guys come around and say like, hey dudes, control yourself, control your
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appetites. Don't be a lame loser wanker sitting alone in your room looking at pornography. Like
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get some control over your life and stop being a weirdo and a pervert. That when, when guys just
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give that advice, which was the advice that all teachers of virtue taught for all of human history,
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the liberals come in and say, no, you have to go look at porn, go into your closet, go into your room
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and go do depraved sexual acts. So, so pathetic. If you're thinking of getting high, heroin and
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crystal meth are absolute no-nos. However, you can indulge all you like in cocaine. So there are,
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I don't know, what are the liberals upset about here? That the Proud Boys are saying you can do coke
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or that the Proud Boys are saying that you can't do heroin and crystal meth? Because what I hear from
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the liberals is we need to legalize all these drugs. We need safe syringe shoot-up areas. We need to turn
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San Francisco into one big crack den. One big, I'm sorry, one big heroin den, one big fentanyl den.
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So there, the Proud Boys are at least saying, hey guys, do fewer drugs than you might otherwise
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be inclined to do. And outside the realm of narcotics, also banned is wearing flip-flops,
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fedoras, or cargo shirts to any Proud Boys meetup. Great. I don't, what's the problem here?
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I don't, the chauvinism line is hyperbolic, but it's kind of funny. I don't, I'm not a big tattoo guy.
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I think one time a month for that thing that they tell you not to do is too much also.
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But the Proud Boys initiation rituals, by and large, are, are not so bad.
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Actually, the Proud Boys initiation rituals are much healthier than the initiation rituals
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pushed by our broader culture. Our broader culture has initiation rituals too. All cultures do.
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And what are the initiation rituals for us? It's to go to college and be brainwashed and told to hate
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your parents and your country and to become a huge lib, if not an outright communist.
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Your initiation rituals involve tons of promiscuous sex, looking at a bunch of porn,
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doing a bunch of drugs, dressing like a slob, being told that men are evil, being told that your
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country is evil, being told that if you're a white person, heaven forfend, you're definitely evil.
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Being, those are all bad, those are bad initiation rituals and they are ubiquitous in our country.
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And they start at age four. They start at age three. Forget about them starting at age 25 or
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whenever people join the Proud Boys. It's not a defense of the, if I were running the Proud Boys,
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I'd probably do things a little bit differently. But, but you say, this is the great threat to our
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country? Compared to the other groups in our country, including the mainstream, the elite,
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the ruling class, these guys are downright wholesome. So because of that, they got to lock
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them away for 22 years. Speaking of rituals young people face, COVID is coming back. I've mentioned this
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for a while. It's right on time because the election is one year away. And some people deny this.
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They say, I don't know, Michael. I don't think it's really going to come back. I think you're
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just a little paranoid. Well, while you are denying that we are about to enter phase one of the COVID
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comeback, COVID 2.0 electric boogaloo, we're already in phase three. Phase one was when Lionsgate and
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Hollywood started to reimplement the mask mandates. That was the little test. How are these headlines
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going to work? There was a strike going on at the time. So Hollywood was basically shut down. It
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was a, it was an easy test. Are people going to accept these masks? Okay. Then after that, we got
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to a school in Atlanta. This was a college. We got to a college in New Jersey. Are they going to accept
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this? Again, it's the summer that these colleges are beginning to bring back the mask mandates.
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Not too much risk. Okay. People are going along with it. That was phase one. Phase two was when
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the White House came out and said, Joe Biden is going to mask up. Some, some government officials
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are going to start putting the masks back on. That's a lot more public. Is that going to, how's
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the public going to react to that? Okay. The public's basically going along with it. Now we're in phase
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three, which is K through 12 schools all around the country are beginning to reimplement the masks.
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Kinter Bish Junior High School in Alabama has asked all students, staff, and visitors to start
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wearing masks in the classrooms to slow the spread of COVID. Alabama, we're not talking about New York
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and California. Alabama, Talladega City School District, more than 1,700 students has urged children
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and staff to wear masks. Maryland Elementary School has sparked outrage after telling the students not
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only to wear masks, but to wear those N95 masks, which pose certain health risks, by the way. We just
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learned that a week or two ago. And also they're extremely uncomfortable and they want them to do
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it just for 10 days, despite only a handful of kids testing positive for COVID and despite COVID
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not posing a particular threat to young people. And then New York, New York health officials providing
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free masks in schools throughout the state as a response to rising COVID. You're seeing this also
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start to happen in LA. We're in phase three, guys. And it seems so audacious. It seems so
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impossible to believe that they're going to bring this back. Frogs get very quickly accustomed to the
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increasing temperature in the water, right? It's an image that is cliche at this point, but it's
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cliche for a reason because it accurately describes political operations. We are the frog being boiled
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in water. This occurred to me because as I saw the masks starting to come back,
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I realized that I had already forgotten about how insane COVID was. They shut down our country for
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over two years, pretty much just to rig a presidential election. It wasn't because the
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virus was particularly dangerous. It wasn't because the measures that they put into place were
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particularly effective. They weren't. In some cases, they were quite harmful. They just did it to
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rig the election. That's why they did it when they did it. That's why they're doing it when they do it
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again. They haven't done this every year. COVID's pretty much been over for two and a half years.
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They're only bringing this back in the lead up to the 2024 election. And it's so hideous because
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our relatives died alone. Many people didn't get to say goodbye to their parents.
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Weren't allowed to hug their loved ones. Had to postpone their weddings. Weren't allowed to see their
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babies right away after they gave birth. Weren't allowed to have funerals. Weren't allowed to have
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Christmas. I mean, they really did us dirty, the ruling class, and they did it to rig an election.
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Maybe some of them were sincerely worried about the virus. Maybe some of them were just
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exaggerating their fear of the virus. But the political incentive to keep this country locked
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down was all about the 2020 election. And this time, it's all about 2024. And the fact that it was
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so egregious and it was so traumatic, and then we all just kind of forgot about it and moved on,
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it just shows you how quickly that memory evaporates. And they're going to do it again.
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And that water is going to be boiling hot before we know it. And already,
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the elected officials are going off script. So what do we say? Phase two of bringing the masks back,
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they're going to be like 50 phases. But phase two was Joe Biden is going to start masking up again.
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And yet, he just showed up to an event with the press, and he walks on stage, and he's not wearing
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says that he's going to start wearing the masks again, he walks into an event. He's not wearing a
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mask. Lord, buddy. Let me explain to the press. I've been tested again today. I'm clear across the
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board. But they keep telling me because this has to be 10 days or something, I got to keep wearing it.
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But don't tell them I didn't have it on when I walked in.
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The press laughs. Ha ha ha. Oh, ha ha ha. Who are they laughing at?
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They're laughing at you. That's who they're laughing at. They're not laughing at Joe Biden.
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Joe Biden's saying, ha ha, I said I was going to wear a mask. I'm not going to wear it. It's okay. I
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don't have COVID. Ha ha ha. The only reason that we're all supposed to be wearing these masks is
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because COVID is allegedly this deadly, horrific disease that's going to kill us all if we don't
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upend society and rules and regulations and laws and individual liberties and all the rest of it
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to protect against it. That shouldn't be a laughing matter when you violate that. But it is because
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they know that the virus isn't particularly dangerous and they know that it doesn't merit
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upending society other than the political ends that they're trying to inflict. So Biden, he can
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choose to not wear his mask and he probably does a lot. The press, they don't need to wear their masks.
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But you do. And that's the punchline. That's the joke of it. Speaking of laughing, there's a woman.
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I don't know if I'm allowed to get to this bit on YouTube. This part might be cut out of YouTube.
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So if you want this bit, you got to go head on over to Daily Wire Plus or Twitter at M. Knowles Show.
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There's a woman who's very upset because at her office, at her job, she was called a woman.
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Two things to know. I'm non-binary. I go by they, them. And I work in a store that is pretty much all
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women. So whenever they're like addressing us or when they're talking, they're always like,
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hey, ladies. So I've taken it upon myself as someone that is non-binary to use this to not
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listen. And whenever anyone addresses a group as ladies, I am not included. So when they say,
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hey, ladies, let's like stop talking or hey, ladies, let's like get to work. I will do none of it
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because you're not talking to me. You're not talking to me. You're not talking to me. So
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I will not listen to anything that is said when it is started with, hey, ladies, I'm a they-dee,
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Okay. So she's not going to listen and she's not going to do her job. And so she shouldn't have a
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job. And the employers should have the right to fire her because she's obviously a terrible employee,
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but they don't really have that right right now. Because you know, the minute that they fire
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this woman for not doing her job and not following orders, that woman is going to come back and sue
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and say that this is they-dee-phobia. This is homophobic, transphobic, phobic, phobic, whatever.
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And she'll probably win the lawsuit because we don't have freedom of association in America.
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Okay. We have freedom of association in as far as if you don't want to hire white people or admit
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white people to your university or your club, that's fine. But any other group, any other racial
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group, that would be discrimination. You have to admit people of those other groups. We have freedom
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of association if you don't want to let a Christian in or hire a Christian or let a Christian practice
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this religion, that's fine. But any other religious group, that's not fine. You are obligated to indulge
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those things. If you're just a straight normal person who's married and has a family, you can
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discriminate against that person. But anyone else, if a woman thinks she's a man or if they're in a
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homosexual couple or throuple or quadruple, then those are protected people. How did we get to this
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place? Through the weaponization of civil rights law. Because civil rights law is in place to address
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historic discrimination, specifically against black people. And then after the civil rights law
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was installed, this was taken as a model for all sorts of other left-wing causes.
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The Ford Foundation in particular promoted this. This was the story of the late 1960s through 1970s.
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There's a good book by Mike Gonzalez from the Heritage Foundation on this. I forget the name of the book.
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But as a result of that, freedom of association is gone in America. And I think I've now gotten to
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the point where I'm so conservative that I'm kind of a libertarian again. I'm not really a libertarian,
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but the libertarians harp on this notion of freedom of association. That you ought to be able to fire the
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people you want to fire, and you ought to be able to hire the people you want to hire, and you ought to
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have freedom of association. The argument against freedom of association, the way that this bedrock
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American principle was destroyed in the middle of the 20th century was that it could be used to
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unjustly discriminate against black people, specifically. And that would be a very bad
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thing, and you don't want to do that. But the erasure of freedom of association has not gotten
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rid of unjust discrimination. It's actually expanded unjust discrimination. And so I think the only way
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to restore a normal society where a company is allowed to fire an obviously deranged person who
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refuses to do her job because she doesn't know that she's a woman and refuses to answer to the
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term lady, the only way to restore that normal society, as a practical matter, is probably through
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a restoration of the freedom of association. We have a nice happy meeting point between the
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conservatives and the libertarians here. What is the future of conservatism? Mike Pence
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has thoughts, which we'll get to in just one second. First, though, my favorite comment yesterday is
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from Phil Veda, 3309, who says, is Fauci's defense really the singular data is anecdote? This guy's
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supposed to be one of the smart people. It is. You make a great, great point. The matter that occurred
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with Dr. Fauci was that Dr. Fauci said that we have to ignore the data. We have to ignore what's
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going on with masks and vaccines and all of the sorts of measures to combat COVID because
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individually they might work. The studies say that the masks don't work, but individually maybe they do.
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We're actually hearing this call to say, hey, ignore the data, trust your anecdotes whenever it is
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convenient. Now, Mike Pence has a lot of thoughts on the future of conservatism, but I've got to
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pause you right there and tease this because we have got to get to my friend, Candace Owens. I'm not
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allowed to show this Candace interview on YouTube right now. So if you want to see the interview,
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you've got to go to dailywire.com and you've got to go to M Knowles' show on X because we're talking
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about Candace's new show. My dear, wonderful to have you with us as always. So listen, Candace,
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you and I have a lot of things in common, but one thing we have in common is when the entire culture
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is saying one thing, like the culture might be right, sometimes it's right, but our first instinct
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is to say, probably wrong. They're probably totally wrong. And so you, I didn't even watch
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the Making a Murderer series. I only heard about it, but I just assumed if everybody's saying this guy
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is innocent, he's got to be guilty as sin. And I know you actually followed it very, very closely.
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And then you, because you're like a dog with a bone because you refuse to let anything like this just
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slip through the culture. You said, no, I'm going to prove that this jerk totally did it. Is that
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basically how this project came about? Listen, I don't want to give too many spoilers here, but I
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will say that I obviously have a fascination with the media's ability to brainwash, not just the masses
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in general, even us. Like I did this sort of backwards examination of why I used to support the
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LGBTQ movement. And I only recently discovered that the entire Laramie project thing was a lie.
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Yeah. They put on, yeah, they put on a play at my school, convinced me that this gay kid for the
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simple crime of being gay was tied to offense and killed. It was a complete lie. A total media agreed
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upon lie so that they could further their own agenda. And so, yes, this project making, convicting a
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murderer, which stems from the Netflix series, smash series, making a murder where everyone was
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kind of very anti-police. This was kind of like white lives matter. Like before there was white
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lives matter, black lives matter, there was white lives matter. And everyone just sort of paid to
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the police. And they wanted to believe that, you know, this man who was at one point in his life
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wrongly convicted, wrongly convicted of an attempted murder that he did not actually commit. It was
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before DNA. So they wanted to believe that maybe twice he just keeps getting himself into these
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circumstances. And Netflix seized on it because they knew that they could just manipulate people's
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emotions and make them think that a very aggressive person, his entire life story is incredibly
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aggressive, could potentially be an angel. So it was a fascinating story to look into.
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The Laramie project comparison is a really good one because it also lets all of us off the hook for,
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because I've been duped by some of these things, especially when I was younger. And it lets us off
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the hook a little bit in that, I don't know what happened to Matthew Shepard. I'm just hearing about
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this guy on the news. I have no reason, I guess, not to think that they're broadly telling me the
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truth. And then though, like in that case with the Laramie project, you look into it and you see,
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oh no, actually the fact that he was a homosexual is really just a side part of the story. There's so
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much more here. So why was the story pushed in the first place? It's not because the media cared
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about a guy like Matthew Shepard. It's because they were trying to push a broader social and
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cultural agenda. Presumably they're doing the same thing here. I don't think they actually care about
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this guy, Stephen Avery, but they do care about promoting crime. They do care about undermining
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law enforcement and law and order more broadly. So I don't want you to give away too many spoilers.
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The show should be a huge smash because it's giving the answer, the reality to what Netflix was
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promoting. But, you know, give me a little taste. Like what, you know, what did you see?
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Here's what I will say is don't be afraid to eat some humble pie. I think that's been one of the
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greatest things that I've always practiced humility. I mean, I had everything wrong.
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You spoke to Candace Owens when she was 18. Pro-choice, liberals are good, Republicans are racist. And
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it's actually been such an exciting thing. Once you release that egotistical element that makes you
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think, oh, I had to have had it all right. And you actually learn the truth. It's amazing.
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It's actually amazing because then it allows you to further examine your psyche and how your
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psychology is being impacted and how the media really plays the biggest role in this, how your
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emotions plus the media can just completely disrupt a true analysis. And this is a circumstance where
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you have this man, Stephen Avery, something did actually wrongfully happen to him when he was
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wrongfully convicted before DNA. Evidence was available of a raping and leaving someone left for dead.
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She actually survived. She pointed him out and she said, this guy did it. She thought it was him,
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really thought it was him. And then they found out after 16 years that it actually wasn't him.
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They released him from prison. He's not out for prison long before suddenly he is being convicted
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of another murder. He's being accused of another murder, which was the murder of Teresa Hallback.
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And this inspired, you know, some Netflix documentary makers. And you're exactly right. You're going to see
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the same characters again that were pushing this idea that he was innocent. Let me say one thing.
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If Alec Baldwin ever tells you that somebody is innocent, they're probably not.
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If Alec Baldwin and Trevor Noah are getting behind something, you are probably taking part
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in a media simulation. And it's all the same usual suspects. And I think that people who follow the
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story closely, the tens of million people around the world are just going to be shocked at how far the
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media will go to sell you an idea, how, how, how often they omit facts because they already have
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this packaged idea that they're trying to sell you at the end of it. And in this circumstance is that
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police are rotten, police are backwards, police are wrong, police are corrupt. And that has really
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kind of been a media theme for the last 10 years.
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I saw even in the trailer, it, that, that the documentary left out specific crucial pieces
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Yeah. Oh yeah. It's really bad. I mean, and what's I think most shocking is that the documentary
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makers won an Emmy for this. And, and it's interesting that the amount of celebrities that
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got involved with this, it pretty much, like I said, if Hollywood's involved, you pretty much know
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that you're probably being duped and you're being misled. I have a lot of questions about why Alec
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Baldwin is always the center of all of these things, but this became something that so many
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celebrities were obsessed with. And they believed that this was like the innocence project, one of
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these innocence project people that, and you look into it and you're like, this person isn't innocent
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at all. Why, why are we trying to get this person back onto the streets? But this one has been so
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long lasting. There's still a very dedicated Stephen Avery cult, just announcing this documentary
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without even saying what our intentions were to say, we're going to re-examine it. People that are my
00:35:39.120
fans have written me nasty emails of like, Candace, I love you. I've supported you,
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but this is something you don't understand. We've researched this for, for years, for decades.
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You couldn't possibly know what we know. Why are you so fearful? I haven't said anything yet. You
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don't even know what we're going to present to you. Chill out. Maybe I'm going to come to the
00:35:55.280
same conclusion as you. Well, because it's scary to have to examine the possibility that you've been
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duped. And that's why I say it comes with humility. It comes with, you know, suffering from
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cognitive dissonance, wondering how you could have possibly been misled. And I think that if you're
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brave enough to go under that journey, you're going to have a really fun and interesting time
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looking into this docuseries. It's a really great point because I'll even zoom it out from
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this case or any particular crime all the way to political philosophy, which is when you realize
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that maybe liberalism is kind of wrong. I remember when this happened to me in college,
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when I started to realize that liberalism, not just some crazy leftist, not just the most extreme
00:36:39.180
kind of wokeism, but like just the liberal idea might be kind of wrong. That's extremely
00:36:45.160
disorienting. When you realize that, oh, the media often don't tell you the truth. When you realize
00:36:53.280
that maybe in certain elections, there have been some shenanigans and maybe it wasn't all totally
00:36:59.180
pristine. When you realize that maybe the law isn't applied evenly to everybody, maybe BLM gets off the
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hook burning the country down for eight months and some Midwestern granny gets thrown in the clink for
00:37:10.060
January 6th. You think, well, how much of what I've been told is not true? And it's why I have so much
00:37:17.260
grace for people who maybe they start out as a leftist, then they become a fashionable libertarian
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type, then they become a more center-right kind of conservative. Before you know it, they're to the
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right of Genghis Khan. I don't knock them for having been wrong in the first place. There's a long way to go.
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There are a lot of layers to peel back here to realize how much we've been told that isn't true.
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Yeah, and I wrote about it in my book that I actually took a year off to suffer through
00:37:45.260
real cognitive dissonance. I thought I was going crazy. Basically, you wake up one day and you
00:37:49.480
find out that up and down is down is up. It is completely mind-shattering. It is something that
00:37:55.220
you wonder, okay, am I insane? Are they insane? You feel weird because you've been so strong and
00:38:00.560
committed in your beliefs. Maybe you're the person that wrote on Facebook, I disown all
00:38:04.600
Trump supporters. If you're a Trump supporter, unfriend me. How do you go back from that?
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And that's that humble pill that I'm talking about that you have to swallow and realize,
00:38:12.060
hey, I was duped. We're all capable of being duped. None of us are above it. I'm still capable
00:38:16.100
of being duped. And I recognize that now, which is why I try to pursue all of the facts before
00:38:21.560
making any of a determination because I know that for the first part of my life, and this is in
00:38:25.520
large part due, obviously, to a low-income family, public school system. I was totally
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apart. I grew up in Connecticut, but so blue. And so I really was just a victim of my surroundings
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and also a victim of what I believe to be a pretty nefarious public school system and the education
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system, Department of Education, that is kind of rinsing us with these ideas. This is what's bad.
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This is what's good. You're a black girl. You're going to be a Democrat. So I don't fault myself any of
00:38:52.120
that. I think I would fault myself for not having the courage to look at the other side. And then
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once I saw a little glimpse of the truth, if I was too scared and I shut the window on it,
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I would fault myself. And instead, I pursued it. And you're right. It was a journey. And I kind of
00:39:07.360
was in the middle. And I was still holding on to some stuff like, oh, well, maybe it's okay to be
00:39:11.880
pro-choice. And maybe gay marriage is not all that bad. And now I'm like, I make you and Clarence Thomas
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look like libs. Yeah. That's right. Pretty soon. You might go all the way or you're going to end
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up a communist. You're going to go so far, you're going to come around the other way. So what's
00:39:26.880
important about this series too, I think, is it's getting into this very particular case. Because we
00:39:34.360
can zoom out and say, oh, what they're doing to Trump is bad. Or, oh, you know, immigration policy
00:39:39.340
is bad. Or, you know, the 30,000 foot view. But lies like this in service of a political agenda
00:39:46.540
they permeate everything. They go all the way down, even to these tiny local, whoever the hell
00:39:51.940
this guy is in a small little case in the middle of nowhere. That happens much more frequently. That
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happens every single day. So before I let you go, I'm going to try one more time to just pull out of
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you all the secrets of this doc. But I know you can't, I want to enjoy it. I don't want you to
00:40:08.540
spoil the whole series for me. But what can I look forward to? I'll give you all the spoilers right
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now. You've broken me down. Here's what I will say. I think if we are taking a bird's eye view,
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it's just what you're hitting upon. The real victim in this case was Teresa Hallback. You were
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talking about a woman who was in her early 20s, just starting her life, who was fearful of Stephen
00:40:30.740
Avery, who was found, she wasn't, she was found in a burn pit. She was raped. She was mutilated. She
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was cut up into little pieces. They had to use her bone fragments to even put together her DNA.
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She had a devout Catholic family who handled this with extreme grace. And because of the
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poisoning of the media, that family was attacked because of people like Alec Baldwin, a mob of
00:40:53.460
sent it online to tell them, wild conspiracy theories, people that she had gone with the
00:40:57.760
cows to Mexico. I mean, the conspiracy theories that people came up with because they refused to
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examine the facts in the case and because a Netflix documentary had led them to believe that a man,
00:41:06.880
Stephen Avery, was completely innocent is shocking. It gets to a place of evil.
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And I was left really just thinking about her. And I wanted to make sure as we did this docu-series
00:41:17.560
that we also told the story of the real victim in this case, because Netflix led everybody to
00:41:21.960
believe that it was Stephen Avery and that the perpetrators were the police. The victim in this
00:41:26.660
case was the young woman who lost her life in one of the most horrific ways, unimaginable if you're a
00:41:30.600
parent, Teresa Hallback. And taking you on that journey, there are so many plot twists. Nobody even
00:41:35.660
knows anything about the Avery family. No one knows anything about Teresa Hallback's family.
00:41:39.980
They were also focused on this narrow narrative and seeing all of the facts around it, I think,
00:41:45.440
is going to be mind-blowing for a lot of people. So we're really looking forward to bringing it.
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Ten full episodes with me featured and tons of other people, including Stephen Avery's family.
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Wow. I can't wait. Is it all coming out at once or is it going to be one of these drip,
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Drip, drip, drip. Okay, no. First episode's free. It's going to be available on X. Everybody can watch it.
00:42:05.640
We're going to do this kind of live viewing event. And then the second episode will be free on Daily
00:42:10.340
Wire Plus. And then I know by then you are just going to want to binge watch the rest of it,
00:42:15.420
You're like a drug dealer. You go, you give out the little taste. The first taste is free.
00:42:21.600
I can't wait. We'll see it. There'll be the live viewing. That'll be for everybody. And then
00:42:25.820
you come on into the inner sanctum. You get the real stuff. Candice, my dear,
00:42:35.220
Get ready to go watch it. Okay, I want to get to the Mike Pence clip.
00:42:38.700
So speaking of the future of conservatism, Mike Pence says that the GOP right now
00:42:45.340
is at a crossroads and can go in one of two directions.
00:42:51.240
Here within the Republican Party, I think we have a choice to make, and that is whether or not we're
00:42:56.280
going to offer the American people a candidate and a standard bearer that will carry forward
00:43:02.340
the common sense conservative agenda of a strong national defense, American leadership in the world,
00:43:08.380
fiscal responsibility and pro-growth policies, a commitment to traditional values and liberties
00:43:13.020
in life, or whether or not we'll follow the siren song of populism, unmoored to conservative principle.
00:43:21.440
I really like Mike Pence. I think he's an honorable guy. I just think he happens to be wrong here.
00:43:27.180
What we're hearing is the same sort of thing we heard in 2016, which is that we've got the
00:43:32.880
conservatism, which is principles, and the principles are cut taxes, fund, add more military
00:43:39.280
funding, X, Y, and Z, or populism, which that's Donald Trump. And it's sort of ironic coming from
00:43:48.160
Mike Pence because Mike Pence was the running mate and vice president for Donald Trump, who is considered
00:43:53.360
the face of American populism. But that word populism, I'm not sure it really means anything
00:43:58.740
as it is used. It's just used as a term of derision, all this populism from the people on the left and
00:44:05.240
from the liberals on the right. We need to cut out this populism. What is populism? Populism means
00:44:11.860
different things at different times. Politics is eternal principles applied to ever-changing
00:44:18.100
circumstances. And sometimes you focus a little bit more on the principle side, sometimes more on the
00:44:22.060
circumstance side. And populism is much more sensitive to changing circumstances. But what
00:44:27.560
it boils down to is a recognition that there is a chasm between the people and the supposed
00:44:34.920
representatives of the people. And when the people feel like they're being gypped and they're not
00:44:41.600
actually being represented in the government, then you're going to see rising populism.
00:44:47.520
That is not a siren song. That's an important alarm. That's a warning sign that something has
00:44:54.540
gone wrong in your body politic. Neither party, neither base group of voters, the liberals or the
00:45:01.400
conservatives, has faith any longer in American elections. The left has questioned way more elections
00:45:07.080
than the right has. And the right obviously is skeptical of the 2020 election. We no longer really
00:45:14.140
believe in our system of justice. The left has for years said the system of justice is being weaponized
00:45:19.320
against racial and sexual minorities. And I think that's largely not true. But the right is pointing
00:45:27.200
out, well, hold on, the justice system is being weaponized against conservatives and pro-lifers and
00:45:31.660
Catholics and Midwestern grannies from January 6th. And so we don't have faith in that any longer.
00:45:36.980
We say, wait, hold on, our economy is no longer really working for us. And the representatives,
00:45:43.600
so-called, in the Republican and Democrat parties, they're all for outsourcing. They're all for sending
00:45:49.240
our manufacturing overseas. They're all for free trade deals that are supposed to boost up GDP.
00:45:54.160
But a lot of people, especially working class Americans on the left and the right,
00:45:58.880
are getting squeezed here. They don't feel like they're being represented.
00:46:02.520
What is the future here, conservatism or populism? Ironically, what is being called populism is a
00:46:09.900
much more solid and traditional and classical form of conservatism before the chic, corporate
00:46:19.640
kind of libertarianism of the last three decades took over. Protect your workers, build up your industry,
00:46:27.320
secure your borders. If that's populism, if that's not conservatism, then I don't know what
00:46:34.700
I, I guess I'm not a conservative. That seems pretty conservative and basic to me. And you have
00:46:40.260
to take populism seriously because otherwise you could have a lot more political instability.
00:46:48.860
And I think the people in this case have a real point. There's a good reason why the American
00:46:54.300
people don't really have faith in elections anymore. Well, here's the story. I'll tease it.
00:46:57.260
I'm such a tease. This liberal group is filing a 14th amendment lawsuit to keep Trump off a ballot
00:47:01.780
in Colorado. If the people were being represented, if our form of government were really synonymous with
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democracy right now, then no one would worry about Donald Trump being on a ballot.
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If the ruling class really believed that Trump could never win a general election,
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then they wouldn't be trying to kick him off the ballot because they'd say, okay,
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he's going to be on the ballot. He's going to get absolutely trounced at the ballot. So no big deal.
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We'll move on. But that's not really what they believe. They believe that the people want to
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elect Donald Trump just as they elected him in 2016. And who knows what happened in 2020. And they at
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least fear enough that they could elect him in 2024, despite their protestations to the contrary,
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that they want to kick him off of the ballot. That's my tease. We'll get more into that story
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