The Michael Knowles Show - September 22, 2023


Ep. 1336 - Ibram X. Kendi's Anti-White Hustle Implodes


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

182.58752

Word Count

8,177

Sentence Count

554

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

33


Summary

Race hustler Ibram Kendi is under fire after his Center for Anti-Racist Research at Boston University laid off some 20 employees, and now nobody knows where the money went. Meanwhile, Trevor Noah interviews a man who dresses up as a woman to debate whether or not men should be allowed to compete in women's sports.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Race hustler Ibram Kendi is under fire after his Center for Anti-Racist Research at Boston
00:00:06.680 University laid off some 20 employees, more than half of the center's workforce.
00:00:12.220 The Center for Anti-Racist Research was founded in June 2020 during the BLM shakedown campaign
00:00:19.540 that followed the death of George Floyd. Kendi was given a professorship and a center,
00:00:24.380 the purpose of which remains as dubious today as it was back then. Since that time,
00:00:30.460 Kendi's Center has raised tens of millions of dollars from donors, and now nobody knows where
00:00:37.940 the money went. It isn't that the Center produced nothing for its money. The Center launched a blog
00:00:45.540 on the Boston Globe's website, and then that's pretty much it. The Center promised to do lots of
00:00:53.660 stuff. It promised to develop a racial data tracker to be, quote, the nation's largest online database
00:01:01.020 of racial inequity in the United States, whatever that means. But that project, like so many of its
00:01:07.520 other initiatives, just never quite happened. And it was never going to happen, because these race
00:01:13.800 hustlers never produce much of anything. Their product is the shakedown. The product is white guilt.
00:01:22.220 And the business is getting donations to produce more white guilt to get more donations.
00:01:30.960 What did BLM ever produce? It produced lots of broken windows and empty store shelves and burned out
00:01:38.860 cars. And other than that, all it produced was white guilt, which earned it some $90 million in
00:01:45.360 donations, which then also disappeared along with the formal organization. The BLM founders moved into
00:01:52.840 mansions in Southern California, and everyone moved on to the next grift. The only reason that we are
00:02:00.360 hearing about this one, about the financial corruption of Kendi's Center, is that he made the mistake of
00:02:06.320 stiffing his woke employees, his fellow con artists, who are now turning the con on him.
00:02:11.300 But it almost certainly won't hurt him, because there's no shortage of white guilt. And there's
00:02:17.500 no shortage of money just waiting to be funneled into leftist patronage. Like a sidewalk shell game,
00:02:24.520 even if Kendi's BU gig goes under, just wait for him to pop up magically somewhere else.
00:02:31.220 Welcome back to the show. One in six American adults can't name a single branch of our government.
00:02:58.420 We will get to why that might be in just a moment. First, though, speaking of liberal black men who
00:03:04.200 appeal exclusively to yuppie whites, Trevor Noah just had an interview. He interviewed some,
00:03:13.840 well, all right, see you later, YouTube. He interviewed, I guess this part's going to be on
00:03:19.600 Daily Wire Plus and also X at MNOLLE's show. Trevor Noah interviewed a man who dresses up as a woman
00:03:28.400 and they discussed the topic of men who identify as women in women's sports. And the debate,
00:03:39.140 such as it was, was five minutes long. Here is the most interesting argument made by the transvestite.
00:03:46.720 There are many who were born biologically women who will say, but you have an unnatural advantage over
00:03:52.620 me and that makes the sport unfair. How do you respond to that?
00:03:57.040 Yeah, there's lots of ways you can respond to that. So the first is the very language of you were
00:04:02.920 born and I'm not biological somehow, like I don't think I'm a cyborg. So like this idea that like,
00:04:10.180 oh, you're not a biological woman. Well, I am a woman. That's a fact. I am female. So all my identity
00:04:15.840 records, my racing license, my medical records all say female, right? And I'm pretty sure I made a
00:04:21.820 biological stuff. So I'm a biological female as well. So this question of do trans women have an
00:04:28.280 advantage over cis women? We don't know. In fact, there's basically no published research on this
00:04:35.220 question. However, there's good reason to think that there isn't. But I think it's irrelevant because
00:04:42.460 we allow all kinds of competitive advantages within women's sport.
00:04:48.920 So it's irrelevant. Now, the follow up question, which of course, Trevor Noah does not ask. It's
00:04:53.540 amazing to watch in this interview, Trevor Noah, so obsequious and so afraid to erase any question.
00:05:00.160 Look, I'm obviously not transphobic, but you know, wouldn't maybe someone, some terrible person might
00:05:05.360 suggest that maybe it's wrong for men to compete against women in the sports. And this guy's answer is,
00:05:09.500 look, there is a wide spectrum of women within women's sports, some of whom are taller and faster
00:05:16.100 and stronger. And so we allow that range of competition. So why not just broaden the range
00:05:20.720 of competition by including men too? And the obvious follow up question is, well, why do men and women's
00:05:27.440 sports exist separately in the first place? If it's just a range of competitive advantage,
00:05:33.280 then why not have them all compete together? Because obviously we have all recognized forever
00:05:39.800 that men and women are not just different in degree, but are categorically different. And that's
00:05:45.100 why there are different categories. So women can have their own sports. Trevor Noah can't ask that
00:05:50.920 follow up question. He can't even poke at the most ridiculous part of that guy's argument,
00:05:54.500 which is clever of the transvestites to argue. And it exposes a weakness in the conservatives'
00:06:01.820 response against transgenderism. And it's a weakness that I've been pointing out for a long
00:06:05.900 time. And it's in this stupid phrase, biological woman. I have said from the beginning,
00:06:12.940 the advent of this stupid phrase, that it's going to come back and bite us because it implies that
00:06:18.960 there is some other kind of woman. Conservatives think they're being clever when they say, well,
00:06:23.680 look, a biological woman, to be very precise, I'm not talking about a trans woman or a socially
00:06:29.320 constructed. I mean, a biological woman. There's only one kind of woman. There's not a, you can't
00:06:33.360 be a biological woman and a psychological man. You can't be a biological woman and a spiritual man.
00:06:37.780 You can't be biological woman and an economic man. There's just men and women. And so he flips this.
00:06:44.680 He says, what, am I not biological? Am I a robot? Am I a cyborg? No, I'm biological. I'm made of organic
00:06:49.880 matter. And I am a woman. So therefore I'm a biological woman. And if you accept the silly premise
00:06:56.160 that there are different types of women, that one could be one sex in one domain and one sex in
00:07:01.760 another domain, then his argument holds true. The issue is not the biological part. The issue is
00:07:07.360 the woman part. He's not a woman and never can be. No adjectives to modify that full stop. He's a man.
00:07:17.560 But as long as we cede any ground whatsoever to the absurd premises of transgenderism, then we're
00:07:27.960 going to find ourselves, even conservatives are going to find ourselves on the back foot making
00:07:31.840 weak arguments, just like Trevor Noah, refusing to bring up arguments at all. Which is why I got in
00:07:39.380 hot water earlier in the year when I pointed out on certain political issues, there's middle ground.
00:07:44.000 We can reach a compromise. We can live and let live. We can accept the glories of pluralism or
00:07:48.660 whatever liberals talk about. But on certain issues, we can't. It's either or. Either men can become
00:07:53.700 women or they can't. If they can, then we should just accept transgenderism at every level of society,
00:07:58.600 in the sports, in the workplace, for children, because a man can really be a woman. So a little
00:08:02.680 child might really be born into the wrong body or whatever they say. But if that isn't true, which it
00:08:07.380 obviously isn't, then we just have to stop entertaining transgenderism, period, in all of public life.
00:08:13.200 If that guy has some weird sexual fetish and he wants to dress up in front of his mirror,
00:08:17.540 no one's going to send the purity police to stop him. But the moment that he starts interfering in
00:08:21.820 public life with his nonsense, then it's a political matter and we've just got to be clear or it's going
00:08:27.000 to be unjust for everybody. Now, speaking of women, President Trump has hit the campaign trail
00:08:33.460 and he has identified a new nasty woman. You know, he brought up that phrase first against Hillary
00:08:40.020 Clinton quite aptly. Now he's turning that phrase on Megyn Kelly.
00:08:45.600 I sat down for an hour and then I did a Megyn Kelly one and she had, you know, just, boy,
00:08:51.680 she became nastier all of a sudden. She was pretty nasty, didn't you think? Anybody that watched it?
00:08:58.840 I don't think she was particularly nasty. And more to the point, you know, look, President Trump,
00:09:04.540 he's a good campaigner. He's a once in a generation political talent. So far be it for me to criticize
00:09:08.460 this strategy that has worked unexpectedly well for a long time now. But this seems to me a misstep.
00:09:16.380 Take aside any moral consideration. Take aside that I'm friends with Megyn Kelly. Take aside
00:09:22.740 that I think she conducted the interview in a very fair way. Just as a tactical matter,
00:09:29.100 if I'm Donald Trump, if I'm on the Trump campaign, I think I've got to notice Megyn Kelly is not the
00:09:35.720 enemy. Even though there was that spat back in the 2016 campaign, even though Megyn Kelly did ask him
00:09:42.460 a very tough question during the debate, said you've called women fat and ugly and stupid and
00:09:46.600 whatever. And Trump had the unbelievably brilliant answer, which was only Rosie O'Donnell, probably the
00:09:53.360 moment that he locked up that race. Just so fast on his feet, so funny. But in this case,
00:09:59.980 Megyn Kelly has been very fair to Donald Trump for many months now. She's been predicting for a long
00:10:04.760 time that he's got the presidential nomination locked up. I don't think she conducted the
00:10:10.380 interview in a bad way. And I just think there's a principle in politics, which is the conservation
00:10:14.980 of enemies. You don't want to grow your enemy list too long. And in this case, I don't think
00:10:20.660 Megyn is a fair enemy. I made this criticism of the DeSantis campaign when I felt that their online
00:10:25.420 campaign was just harassing and going after people who were winnable, who were potential allies,
00:10:31.860 who at least were being fair and were not the enemy. And I think that the same principle holds
00:10:38.160 true here. Maybe it doesn't matter for Trump because he's just so far up in the polls that he
00:10:43.020 can afford to expand his enemies list a little bit. But generally speaking, I think tactically,
00:10:49.520 this is kind of a misstep. He's on the precipice of locking up the nomination entirely. The interview
00:10:55.520 basically was fine for him, even though he kind of whiffed it on a couple of questions.
00:10:59.480 I don't think it really is going to upset his standing in the polls. Seems needless to create
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00:12:19.180 Speaking of gender, you've heard about this book, Gender Queer, which is this perverse porn
00:12:28.580 that liberal activists are trying to push into schools, even into middle schools and elementary
00:12:32.940 schools. And it shows graphic depictions of all sorts of bizarre sexual acts, and it's
00:12:37.160 just obviously inappropriate. I think for high schoolers too, but in the context of a school,
00:12:42.160 but certainly for middle schoolers and elementary schoolers. And this is the book that has been
00:12:49.280 brought up as the example by the liberals of the terrible right-wing book bans. There are those
00:12:54.880 conservatives peddling their censorship. They're basically Nazis. They want to burn books.
00:12:59.920 We're not for burning or banning books. No siree, we're for free speech and free inquiry and free
00:13:05.260 expression. But those right-wingers over there, they're the ones who want to ban books. Side with us.
00:13:12.160 And that has been somewhat persuasive to liberals and even to moderates and gettable people in the
00:13:17.680 middle. They say, oh, we don't want to ban books. I was told my whole life that banning books is bad,
00:13:21.980 so I don't want to be on that side. But then, according to a new survey that's out, when you
00:13:28.720 show voters what is actually in gender queer, all of a sudden they flip and 90% of them say that the
00:13:35.820 book is inappropriate. More than that, 93% say that the images of people doing weird sex stuff
00:13:41.980 in gender queer is inappropriate. This is according to the polling firm WPA Intelligence. This is provided
00:13:48.720 to the Daily Wire. They say that these sexually explicit cartoons are totally inappropriate for public
00:13:54.060 school libraries. And there's a lesson here for conservatives. Forgetting schools and gender queer
00:14:00.900 or whatever. When politics is abstract, the liberals have the advantage. When politics is particular,
00:14:08.900 the conservatives have the advantage. When we talk about the issue of immigration,
00:14:15.640 and you say, don't you think that people should be let into the country? Don't you think we should
00:14:20.120 be open and inclusive? Liberals win that immigration debate. When you say, hey, do you really think El
00:14:27.740 Paso should be run over by cartels who are raping and killing and murdering people? Conservatives win that
00:14:33.280 debate. Actually, you saw this in real time in 2016. For decades, as the debate over immigration had been
00:14:41.780 abstract, liberals won that debate. When Donald Trump descended that escalator and he said, yeah, Mexico,
00:14:49.760 they're not sending immigration in abstract. They're sending murderers and rapists and gangsters and human
00:14:55.900 traffickers and drug smugglers. They're sending really bad people who are killing people in your towns, in your
00:15:01.380 communities. You see it with your own eyes. Then the conservatives started to win that debate.
00:15:07.680 Well, banning books is bad. Yeah, what about this book? You really think seven-year-olds should be
00:15:12.440 exposed to extremely graphic images of extremely perverted sex? Oh, no, I don't think that.
00:15:20.280 Even on the subject of education broadly, when this kind of indoctrination was just abstract,
00:15:27.720 you send your kids to school and they learn whatever and they come home and they're saying
00:15:31.240 weird stuff and they're doing weird stuff, but you don't know. Look, it's school. It's an open
00:15:35.580 education. We're an open society. Parents did not become a powerful voting block. What happened during
00:15:42.320 COVID though? During COVID, all of a sudden, the classroom came into the home and parents saw the
00:15:47.860 particulars of what their kids were learning. And all of a sudden, parents became the most fired up
00:15:52.900 voting block in the country. All of a sudden, Glenn Youngkin wins a blue commonwealth, the
00:15:59.900 governorship in Virginia. All of a sudden, Joe Biden's DOJ starts describing parents in terms that
00:16:07.340 they would usually reserve for terrorists and domestic violent extremists. The particulars are
00:16:13.680 where we win. And this is good for us because politics doesn't happen in the abstract. That's a big
00:16:19.680 mistake of our modern liberal age. Politics happens with real people in real places in real time. It's
00:16:27.660 not just an idea. It's not just principles floating in outer space. It's real people in real time. So
00:16:34.580 any Republican campaign, any activist campaign, if you want to win and you're a conservative,
00:16:41.680 you got to get down into the particulars. The particulars are far more tethered to reality.
00:16:46.780 Speaking of particulars in campaigns, a new poll out from CNN and University of New Hampshire.
00:16:54.800 Trump is at 39% up in New Hampshire. Ron DeSantis is now down to fifth place.
00:17:01.920 Very, very bad news for the DeSantis campaign because the DeSantis campaign has pulled back
00:17:06.400 some of its staff from Super Tuesday and the later primary states. And accidentally,
00:17:12.280 they seem to have pulled out of Nevada, which is actually an early primary state, but whatever.
00:17:16.780 DeSantis needs to do well in Iowa. That won't be sufficient though, because Iowa hasn't predicted
00:17:22.340 the eventual Republican nominee in over 20 years. And DeSantis needs to do well in New Hampshire. And
00:17:27.460 DeSantis needs to do well in a number of the early states. And the numbers are going in the wrong
00:17:32.620 direction. So Trump's at 39%. Now, Vivek is at 13%. Nikki Haley is at 12%. Chris Christie is at 11%.
00:17:44.100 So underneath Chris Christie, you get Ron DeSantis. You dig into the numbers on DeSantis and the picture
00:17:52.040 looks even bleaker because the biggest drop has been among moderates. Moderates were backing DeSantis
00:17:58.840 26% back in July. They're now backing him 6% now. So he's had this huge colossal collapse among the
00:18:07.100 moderates. His drop among conservatives has been smaller, which could be predicted. His drop among
00:18:13.440 conservatives has only been 8%. The moderates is where he's collapsed. You know, I hate to say I told
00:18:19.100 you so. This is not his fault. This is what I said was going to happen. And the reason I saw this happening
00:18:27.840 is because Ron DeSantis' lane in the race, his only lane in this race, is to be the anti-Trump
00:18:36.940 candidate, which is to say the more moderate alternative to Trump. Even if you think Trump
00:18:42.340 is actually secretly a rhino or he's a Democrat or he's really not a rock-ribbed conservative.
00:18:47.340 That's not how he's viewed. He's viewed as the right flank of the party. And I think somewhat fairly
00:18:54.300 on issues like trade, on issues like immigration, I think he has hearkened back to a sturdier,
00:18:59.360 older, more right-wing conservative tradition. But even if you don't think that, that's just how
00:19:02.620 he's perceived. The people who want an alternative to Trump, who clutch their pearls and gnash their
00:19:07.800 teeth, they tend to be the more moderate side of the party. They tend to be the Lincoln project.
00:19:11.620 They tend to be the people who watch MSNBC and CNN. So that's where DeSantis has to be
00:19:18.600 to have even a shot in the race. But DeSantis isn't that guy. DeSantis is at his very best
00:19:25.260 when he's to the right of Donald Trump. DeSantis is at his very best when he's more pro-life,
00:19:30.420 at least in his rhetoric, than Donald Trump is. DeSantis is at his very best when he's more opposed
00:19:35.200 to the sexual revolution, at least in his rhetoric, than Donald Trump is. DeSantis is at his very best
00:19:40.220 when he's more in favor of wielding state power for conservative ends than Donald Trump is.
00:19:44.860 So that's where he's strongest. That's what makes him an attractive candidate to many of us.
00:19:52.460 But he doesn't have that lane in the race. His lane's got to be the moderate lane. And so he's
00:19:57.320 got to pick one. And as he moves more toward the moderate side, he's going to lose the conservatives,
00:20:01.940 who are going to probably stick with Trump. And as he moves more toward the conservative side,
00:20:04.760 he's going to lose the moderates, as happened in New Hampshire. If the DeSantis campaign continues
00:20:08.860 on the path that it seems to be on, there are going to be all sorts of post-mortems about how he's
00:20:13.740 just a very flawed candidate, and he just wasn't up for it, or how the campaign was poorly run.
00:20:19.200 And I don't think the campaign's been run particularly well. But I think all of that is
00:20:22.900 just missing the point, which is it doesn't need to be that he's a terrible candidate. It doesn't
00:20:27.940 need to be, as some people I think are preposterously saying, that DeSantis is a shill, leftist,
00:20:33.000 rhino, liberal, or whatever. It doesn't have to be any of that. It doesn't even have to be that his
00:20:36.600 campaign was poorly run. It's just that the circumstances of the race in this bizarre year,
00:20:43.240 where you've got the first former president running for a non-consecutive second term since 1892,
00:20:49.020 with all of the questions about the state of our democracy and election integrity and the upending
00:20:55.980 of the COVID lockdowns, it just, the circumstances have a say too, and the circumstances don't seem to
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00:22:46.320 Really, really great point. So true. Speaking of polls, one in six Americans cannot name
00:22:52.660 a single branch of the U.S. government. According to the Annenberg Constitution Day Civic Survey,
00:22:58.600 which is released every year, longstanding survey, a large number of Americans can't name
00:23:04.760 three branches of government. Two-thirds of Americans can name the three branches. So one-third of Americans
00:23:14.260 cannot name all three branches of government. Ten percent of Americans can only list two branches
00:23:22.720 of government. And another seven percent can only name one branch of government. And then what's
00:23:32.600 really crazy is that a full 17 percent of Americans cannot name a single branch of government. Why is that?
00:23:41.140 Is it because people are just really dumb now? I don't think IQs have necessarily dropped.
00:23:47.720 I don't think that explains it. I don't think that, you know, a father has an IQ of 100 and then his
00:23:53.820 son has an IQ of 90 and then his son has an IQ of 80. I don't think that's what's going on exactly.
00:23:58.900 I don't think it's just that the education system has collapsed, that that's part of it.
00:24:02.460 I think, and I know this is going to be politically incorrect, it might have something to do with the
00:24:09.260 all-time record high waves of mass migration that we've seen for the last 60 plus years.
00:24:15.240 That immigration into the United States, legal and illegal, over the last 60, I guess closer to 70
00:24:20.860 years now, has been the largest movement of human beings ever in recorded history. And this is no knock
00:24:26.760 on the immigrants. I'm not saying the immigrants are all big dummies or that they don't even like
00:24:31.140 America, or I'm not saying any of that. Just saying that when you flood a country with foreign
00:24:36.100 people, they're going to be less conscious of the particulars and the peculiarities of the country
00:24:42.680 into which they're moving because they just, they weren't raised in it. They don't have that. Even if
00:24:47.460 they studied for a civics test, you know, the test to allow them to become citizens, which for the
00:24:51.800 illegal immigrants doesn't even matter, they're not going to have that kind of instinctive down-in-your-bones
00:25:00.160 understanding of the country. They're not going to have that generational knowledge. And that
00:25:04.300 matters. I know that the left-wing liberals and the right-wing individualists don't want to say
00:25:10.020 that that matters, but it does. Generational stuff matters. The only reason that anybody talks about
00:25:16.080 the pilgrims on the Mayflower these days is because there are still a fair number of people who descend from
00:25:21.040 them and who have just a family interest in them. If those people didn't exist, no one would talk
00:25:27.700 about it. The only reason people talk about it is because they have genealogical interests in them.
00:25:31.800 The same goes for the sons and daughters of the American Revolution. The same goes for all sorts of
00:25:36.140 civic associations that have a genealogical component to it. Very politically incorrect to say these
00:25:42.480 days, but John Jay said it. John Jay, a very important founding father, first chief justice of
00:25:47.340 the Supreme Court, one of the authors of The Federalist, he said, with equal pleasure, I have as often
00:25:52.680 taken notice. The providence has been pleased to give us this one connected country to one united
00:25:57.820 people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same
00:26:03.540 religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and
00:26:08.240 customs, and who, by their joint councils, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long
00:26:13.660 and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence. It's a hard truth for an age
00:26:20.860 that is opposed to very basic conservative truths, that if your family has been in a place for a long
00:26:26.920 time, you're going to have a little bit more of an attachment to it than if you've just arrived on
00:26:31.500 those shores. It's just a fact. I'll give an example. I was just in Hungary. I really like Hungary. I love
00:26:38.280 what the government is doing in Hungary. I think it's a beautiful place. I love the thousand-year
00:26:42.500 history of Hungary as a Christian nation, part of broader empires, fought valiantly. They've got great
00:26:50.380 food. They've got great stuff. If I move to Hungary, though, tomorrow, I would care about Hungary a lot
00:26:57.100 less than your average Hungarian on the street whose ancestors go back a thousand years. It's just a fact.
00:27:02.660 Maybe if I stayed in Hungary for a very long time, maybe many generations down the line,
00:27:08.620 my descendants would have a similar care for Hungary and Hungarian culture and history and the quirks of
00:27:14.440 how the society works. Maybe. But it would take a long time. Politics doesn't just happen overnight.
00:27:20.960 We have a strong focus on democracy and the present and we ignore a lot of history. Well,
00:27:30.060 for a democracy to really work, for it to remain stable and not be, as the founding fathers feared,
00:27:36.160 the worst form of government, you need to take into account a deeper democracy, which is that
00:27:40.880 democracy that I think it was Edmund Burke talked about. I always confuse this quote between Burke
00:27:45.000 and Chesterton, but it's the democracy of the dead. It's probably Chesterton, the way it's written so
00:27:50.380 cleverly and with such whimsy. We shouldn't just prioritize the members of our democracy who happen
00:27:58.640 to be walking around the earth at any given time. We should also give some care back in the generations
00:28:04.580 and also forward and care about our nation's future. But we don't do that anymore. So what do we do?
00:28:08.860 We tear down statues of our forebears and we leave as an inheritance to future generations,
00:28:13.280 nothing but a pile of debt, not conducive to a stable country. And if we lose that stability and
00:28:21.580 we lose that sense that there's something, if not sacred, at least worth admiring and even venerating
00:28:28.440 about our past, then we're just going to lose the whole country. It's just going to fall apart.
00:28:32.080 And you're seeing this happen now. Speaking of erasing history, New York City is looking to remove
00:28:36.360 the statues of our forebears. According to a list found in New York City's council agenda,
00:28:42.280 this is for Tuesday, September 19th, officials will consider a bill that would, quote, require the
00:28:46.860 Public Design Commission to publish a plan to remove works of art on city property that depict a person
00:28:52.760 who owned enslaved persons or directly benefited economically from slavery or who participated in
00:28:59.280 systemic crimes against indigenous peoples or other crimes against humanity. What does that mean? You
00:29:06.460 know the way that this is going to be interpreted, especially by the race hustlers at things like
00:29:10.360 Ibram Kendi's Center for Antiracial blah, blah, blah. This means everybody. This means everybody in
00:29:15.820 American history. Because all Americans have in some way, could at least be said to have in some way
00:29:23.680 benefited from slavery. Because slavery was a part of the American economy for a reasonably long time.
00:29:31.020 And a lot of our forebears, not all or even most of them, but a lot of them owned slaves.
00:29:37.400 And it was just part of the economy. So if you interact with it in any way, you're taking part in it.
00:29:42.540 Think about this today. For a thousand years in Western history, usury was basically illegal.
00:29:49.000 Lending money at interest was more or less illegal. And that's because Christianity considers usury to
00:29:56.320 be a crime and a sin. I continue to believe that. I continue to hold to Christian teachings.
00:30:03.300 And yet, today, it is impossible, virtually, I think just flat out impossible, to in any way participate
00:30:13.120 in society without somehow participating in usury. It's just part of the economy. So if 500 years from
00:30:22.160 now, we get rid of usury somehow, and our descendants say, you know, we're going to tear
00:30:27.140 down the statues of anyone who participated in that awful sin and crime of usury. They're going to tear
00:30:31.280 down all of the statues because it's just part of the air that we breathe. It's part of our society.
00:30:36.360 So these attacks, as Donald Trump predicted, these attacks on Robert E. Lee, these attacks on Stonewall
00:30:42.800 Jackson, these attacks on those mean old nasty Confederates to tear down their statues, it was
00:30:47.580 never going to stop with them. It couldn't stop with them. It was always going to move on to George
00:30:51.760 Washington and Christopher Columbus and everyone, all of them, crimes against the indigenous. What does
00:30:57.700 that mean? That means any white man who ever came to the Western hemisphere could be accused of such
00:31:03.000 a thing because the indigenous people were here before us. Well, all of them, the pilgrims,
00:31:08.820 Plymouth Rock, the whole thing has got to go. And what are we going to be left with? We're going to
00:31:15.820 be left with a big nothing country where far fewer than one in six Americans can name anything about
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00:32:41.800 an additional 55-0% off your first month. Take it away. Hey, Michael. I was recently rejected by a
00:32:49.320 woman that I truly felt that God had placed on my heart. I've never really felt that way about anyone
00:32:53.700 in my life. I've been in plenty of relationships. I'm 30 years old. I've recently experienced an
00:32:58.140 unprecedented season of consistent spiritual growth in a fantastic church community. And after asking God
00:33:03.040 for wisdom, I really felt that I was in tune with whom God intended for me rather than some random
00:33:06.880 girl that I wanted to pursue according to my own plans. It saddens me knowing that she continues to sit
00:33:11.400 completely alone at church every week. And she, despite being my age and very attractive, is still
00:33:15.820 single and doesn't seem plugged into a group of friends. How should I think about this? Does God
00:33:20.540 not speak to Christians about their lives? If scripture does not directly address a particular
00:33:24.340 issue in our life, are we on our own? And if my feelings are indeed in tune with God's wisdom and not
00:33:30.380 my own, should I continue to entertain the possibility of her changing her mind or forget about it and move
00:33:35.320 on? Thanks, Mike. Well, you're never on your own. God's always there with you. You should turn away
00:33:40.820 from God, but you're never actually on your own. But there's a big if there. You say, well, if
00:33:46.000 my desire for this girl and my belief that we're going to end up together is actually in align with
00:33:52.500 God's wisdom and not just my own desire or fantasy, then, you know, what's going on here? But that's a
00:33:58.580 big if. You just don't know. You say, the girl doesn't seem to have any friends. You don't know
00:34:02.880 that. All you see this girl is at church on Sunday. Or maybe she goes to daily mass. You see her
00:34:07.980 every day, but it's still only for an hour. So you just don't know that. You might be projecting
00:34:12.980 that onto this girl. You don't seem to know this girl very well. Now, it could be the case that this
00:34:17.620 girl is just a bit shy or a bit odd or, you know, and so maybe if you become friends with her a little
00:34:25.680 bit or you chat a little bit more, maybe you can convince her to go on a date with you. But maybe not.
00:34:30.740 Maybe she just doesn't like you. You know, not to be too harsh about it, man, but she gets a say,
00:34:37.660 too. And so you might have this sense. You might have a desire for this girl, and you might have
00:34:42.620 the sincere sense that God has ordained this girl for you. But maybe not. Maybe that isn't the case,
00:34:49.560 and maybe you got to look elsewhere. There is a distinction between love and infatuation. And if
00:34:56.960 you really don't know this girl, if you've barely ever talked to this girl, you just see her across the
00:35:00.740 cute, then, you know, your deep feelings of love for this girl are probably more akin to infatuation
00:35:06.320 than an actual love. I don't mean to discourage you. I mean, you know, being of a certain Italian
00:35:11.660 extraction, I think it's good to pursue girls. Even if, you know, the girl says, I don't want to
00:35:17.620 have a drink. I don't want to go get a cup of coffee the first time. Maybe you ask one or two
00:35:21.940 more times. You just try to, you know, say, no, but listen, you're very cute, and I'd like to take you
00:35:25.640 out to get a drink or something. So come on. Come on. How about that? So maybe that will work for you.
00:35:31.100 But you also have to accept the reality that, yeah, you just might not be her type,
00:35:37.780 even if you think she is your type. And so what I would recommend is, even as you perhaps leave
00:35:42.420 open the possibility that this girl might like you, go out with some other girls. It's okay.
00:35:47.840 You can explore. You're a single man. You want to get married. I'm not saying go be debaucherous or
00:35:52.600 anything like that, but you can go on other dates. There is also a strange fact of human nature,
00:35:59.060 which is that if you are going out on dates and it's clear that women like you and are attracted
00:36:06.760 to you, more women will like you and be attracted to you. You shouldn't use this in a way that's
00:36:11.520 exploitative or anything like that. But Drew Klavan once gave me advice, which is, I said,
00:36:18.260 what should I do in my career? And he said, well, the more you work, the more you work.
00:36:20.580 You know, so the more you're just doing anything, the more you're going to be likely to do the
00:36:26.120 things that you want to do. And I think that's probably true in personal life too. This is true
00:36:31.380 if you want to make more friends, go out and do things with people, just really anything. And
00:36:36.000 you're more likely to make more friends that way. And it's true of women as well. Next question.
00:36:42.360 Hey, Michael, I know we've talked about this before, but regardless of what I think,
00:36:45.880 what is your unbiased opinion on high school graduates, not going with the traditional route
00:36:49.920 of college and going with something more alternative, like a gap year YWAM or trade school?
00:36:55.340 Also being a parent, does that affect your view of college at all, especially with how woke it's
00:36:59.200 becoming from your friend with the green pants?
00:37:02.360 My friend with the, I know, I know who this is. It might be someone even in this building who's
00:37:06.560 asking me that question. It gets back to the point I made earlier in the show. It's all about
00:37:14.200 the particulars. I know there are some conservatives who come out, they say,
00:37:17.560 don't ever go to college. Don't go to college. College is stupid. I think some people should go
00:37:22.620 to college. Well, if you go to college, just, you should only major in engineering. I don't think
00:37:26.740 that's true. In fact, I think very few people should. I don't think that's the point of it,
00:37:30.200 a university education. Studying engineering is good. Becoming an engineer is good, but I just don't,
00:37:34.840 no, I wouldn't say that. Some people should study dusty old books. Well, okay, then everyone should go
00:37:40.560 to college. No, I don't think that either. I think way too many people go to college.
00:37:43.240 When I went to college, something like 70% of high school graduates went to college right away.
00:37:50.200 That's insane. And that number has dropped precipitously. But it's largely dependent
00:37:54.840 on what you want to do. So if you're extremely academic and you want to go study Plutarch or
00:38:05.660 something, I don't know, you want to go study Virgil, then yeah, you're probably going to do that
00:38:10.560 in a university environment. If you're not particularly academic and you want to do other
00:38:14.860 things, then why would you waste your time in college? If you want to get married and start a
00:38:18.780 family a little more quickly, you could do that too. If you want to take a gap year and maybe,
00:38:23.060 you know, go on some missionary trip or go on some internship or if you want to just start working
00:38:30.240 right away, you could do that too. I think I would just need more information. And I think I know
00:38:34.900 who wrote in with that question. So I guess in that particular, I would say,
00:38:41.180 if you're not that inclined to do it, don't do it. Now, I don't want to sound trite or cliche when I
00:38:46.520 say, follow your bliss. But, you know, don't try to slam a square peg in a round hole. If it's not
00:38:53.860 for you, then allow your desire to help guide you towards something that is more conducive to your
00:39:01.180 flourishing. I'm not saying just do whatever you want whenever you want to do it. But if you're more
00:39:05.160 drawn to some kind of, I don't know, missionary trip, or if you're more drawn to some kind of
00:39:11.060 internship, or if you're more drawn to family life and settling down right away, I don't think that's
00:39:17.220 necessarily a bad thing. I would judge that desire in the light of virtue and reason and come to a
00:39:24.960 conclusion that's right for you. And in many cases, that's going to mean no college. Though in some,
00:39:29.460 it might mean go to college. Next one. Hello, Michael. Alex here again. Long-time
00:39:35.360 listener. Huge fan. Currently about to finish my conversion to Catholicism. Thank you to you being
00:39:41.200 a big part of that and leading me to that and just the truth of the One True Church. So thank you so
00:39:45.200 much. Anyway, here's my question. So a discussion I get in frequently with one of my Protestant friends
00:39:50.140 is the Immaculate Conception. I somewhat understand it, and I'm trying to listen to many people like
00:39:58.060 Dr. Tony Marshall explain it, who's much more intelligent than I am, but I would just love to
00:40:01.760 hear your elevator pitch or your kind of dumbed-down version, if you will, for somebody like myself
00:40:05.940 of how do I not only, how do I explain this and fully understand the Immaculate Conception of Mary?
00:40:12.680 How is it that even though the Bible says that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
00:40:18.680 how do I explain to a Protestant that Mary was sinless, that she really was,
00:40:24.360 Hail Mary, full of grace and sinless. So thank you so much, Michael. Can't wait for your answer.
00:40:29.000 God bless. Well, you just partially explained it right there, which is the full of grace part. But
00:40:33.880 for those who don't know, the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Mary without the stain
00:40:39.140 of original sin. So a lot of people think it refers to the virgin birth, you know, or the conception
00:40:43.820 of our Lord Jesus Christ without a human male participating. But it refers to the conception of Mary.
00:40:50.360 And so this raises a problem in the minds of some people, which is, well, hold on. I was told that
00:40:55.500 all sin and fall short of the glory of God. So that's got to include Mary too, right? Because
00:40:59.580 that's literally what it says. But if we were to interpret that verse in the most strict literalism
00:41:06.980 we possibly could, then we would have to conclude that our Lord Jesus Christ sinned and fell short of
00:41:13.400 the glory of God. Because he is among the set of all. He's a person, right? So did Jesus sin? No,
00:41:20.900 of course not. That's absurd. All sin and fall short of the glory of God is a true statement about
00:41:26.580 mankind and human nature. But our Lord Jesus Christ is obviously an exception to that rule.
00:41:32.740 And the Blessed Virgin is an exception to that rule too. Does this mean that Mary didn't need a
00:41:37.400 Savior? No, certainly not. The Immaculate Conception is a Catholic dogma, but it's been a belief of
00:41:43.300 Christians since time immemorial, which is that Mary was preserved from the stain of original sin
00:41:49.980 by a singular and special grace of Jesus Christ. So it is still that Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the
00:41:57.500 cross is what redeems mankind, but that there is a special ordering of that in the case of Mary.
00:42:03.800 One way to describe it would be if you fell into a ditch and then I come along and I pull you out
00:42:08.480 of the ditch, I saved you from the ditch, right? But if you were walking toward a ditch and I said,
00:42:13.880 hey, hey, hey, step around that. There's a ditch there. I also would have saved you from the ditch,
00:42:18.540 but I would have saved you from the ditch before you fell into the ditch, which is what our Lord did
00:42:22.320 to his mother. Part of the reason for this is that as Christ is the new Adam, Mary is the new Eve,
00:42:28.980 and both created without original sin. Part of this is because Eve is the new Ark of the Covenant.
00:42:37.600 Christ is the new Covenant and Mary is the new Ark of the Covenant and the Ark of the Covenant is
00:42:41.940 immaculate, stainless. But we also see this in scripture too, which is when, well, as you say,
00:42:47.660 Hail Mary, Hail Mary full of grace, the Lord is with thee. This phrase full of grace is not,
00:42:53.720 hey, you're partially with grace. It's that you're full of grace. And then you see this in the
00:42:57.620 reading from Elizabeth to Mary, which is she says, blessed are you among women and blessed is the
00:43:03.460 fruit of your womb, Jesus. So this same word juxtaposed right next to one another to refer
00:43:10.700 to the blessedness of Mary and the blessedness of our Lord. It is a singular type of blessedness.
00:43:16.540 And then you just have 2000 years of the Christian tradition. So if you say, well,
00:43:19.460 that doesn't really convince me, Michael, I'm not persuaded. You're just reading parts of
00:43:25.240 scripture. You're just deducing certain things by reason. But, you know, that's not really what
00:43:30.240 I believe. Where is it in scripture more directly or something? I guess I would just have to ask,
00:43:34.460 why is it that Christians have believed this for 2000 years? And then in more recent centuries,
00:43:38.660 people stopped believing this. That's what I would just would always ask the question of
00:43:43.700 history, why one's views, which are supposedly so ancient are out of line with history. And then I
00:43:49.600 would ask the question of authority. When people say, well, I just read my Bible and I know what it
00:43:54.560 means. You say, well, a lot of people read the Bible and they have all sorts of varying
00:43:57.380 interpretations. So you haven't sidestepped the question of authority. Who has the authority
00:44:02.880 of interpretation and the interpretive principle? And even if you don't believe in the Pope yet or
00:44:09.860 something, you know, even if you don't believe in the authority of the church, you might at least
00:44:15.280 believe in the authority of the vast majority of Christians who have lived going back to the
00:44:19.180 apostolic age. Okay. I've got one more voice mailbag question to get to. I've got the mail,
00:44:24.880 I've got the written mailbag to get to. And it is of course, fake headline Friday. So I need your
00:44:28.300 help. And please, I'm just going to say, I'm going to read the headlines. And then some people
00:44:32.700 are going to say, oh, it's number three. It's number four. The chat is slow, but they're going
00:44:36.300 to say that one. Don't, you got to tell me which headline. You got to use the words from the
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