The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 134 - Everything Not Forbidden Is Compulsory

00:00:00.000 A Planned Parenthood branch in Pennsylvania has demanded that Disney start giving its princesses abortions.

00:00:06.540 Meanwhile, our friend Jordan Peterson seems to think that nobody would ever consider abortion a good thing.

00:00:11.740 We will discuss with Faith Moore why everything not forbidden is compulsory.

00:00:16.660 Then, the mailbag. I'm Michael Knowles and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:28.640 Okay. This is a tweet that came out recently from Planned Parenthood, the butchery in Keystone, Pennsylvania.

00:02:36.700 The tweet reads, quote, we need a Disney princess who's had an abortion. 0.99

00:02:41.080 We need a Disney princess who's pro-choice. 1.00

00:02:43.620 We need a Disney princess who's an undocumented immigrant. 1.00

00:02:46.920 We need a Disney princess who's actually a union worker. 1.00

00:02:50.160 We need a Disney princess who's trans, which is a prince. That would make him a Disney prince. 0.97

00:02:54.260 This is intersectionality at its finest.

00:02:56.280 This intersectionality is the theory that we all need to gang up, regardless of our own groups. 0.99

00:03:01.560 We need to gang up to attack the white, straight male who knows he's a male devil. 0.99

00:03:06.580 Not just any white, straight male, because he could be trans. 0.99

00:03:09.280 There's just one bad guy, and then the rest of us need to gang up and fight that guy.

00:03:13.720 That's why it all comes in.

00:03:14.840 Who cares about union workers in the Planned Parenthood tweet?

00:03:18.240 Because it's this brilliant little ideology.

00:03:21.440 It's an incoherent ideology, but it's brilliant because it unites all of the aggrieved groups,

00:03:26.100 the allegedly aggrieved groups, against the bad guy, which is the straight white man who thinks that he's a man. 0.89

00:03:31.720 In the old days, you'd hear Louis Farrakhan yelling about the white devil. 0.84

00:03:34.700 Now it's much more specific. 0.98

00:03:35.960 It is a straight white man who thinks he's a man devil.

00:03:38.580 The idea that we need to have a Disney princess who has an abortion is a big shift that has happened recently in the view of abortion on the left.

00:03:49.880 In the same week, we had this video come out from Jordan Peterson, who has said that abortion is clearly wrong,

00:03:56.900 and nobody would ever consider it a positive good.

00:03:59.600 Here's Jordan.

00:04:00.140 Abortion is clearly wrong.

00:04:02.600 I don't think anybody debates that.

00:04:04.460 You wouldn't recommend that someone that you love have one.

00:04:08.580 Nobody debates that, says Jordan, but I don't know if he's saying this for rhetorical effect.

00:04:14.580 It is clearly wrong.

00:04:15.660 He's absolutely right.

00:04:16.800 Nobody would seriously debate that, but plenty of frivolous people do debate that.

00:04:20.960 They try to make it a debate, even though it obviously isn't.

00:04:23.640 We know that people debate this.

00:04:25.240 We know that some people pretend that it's a positive good and not just a bad thing, since Hillary Clinton.

00:04:31.560 Hillary Clinton used to say it should be safe, legal, and rare, right?

00:04:35.060 Saying abortion is a bad thing, but we should tolerate it for some reason. 1.00

00:04:38.760 We're way past that now.

00:04:40.040 They can't handle that cognitive dissonance.

00:04:43.020 The Shout Your Abortion movement encouraged women who were sucked into this awful choice, 0.96

00:04:48.720 this traumatic choice that, in many cases, ruins people's lives.

00:04:51.940 Not just the lives of the kids, but the lives of the people who do it.

00:04:55.100 Now you have to pretend to be proud of that.

00:04:57.140 Here's just the first YouTube result that comes up when you look up the Shout Your Abortion movement.

00:05:01.600 My name is Sammy Detzer, and I had an abortion on May 20th, 2014.

00:05:09.480 And here are a list of things that happened on that day.

00:05:13.800 Anyway, I had a blueberry danish for breakfast.

00:05:18.400 I walked from my apartment to the Madison Street Clinic.

00:05:21.600 I received free healthcare from Apple Health on that day.

00:05:27.620 I sat with my best friend in the waiting room while Let It Go by Adina Menzel played over the intercom.

00:05:37.060 I took three Vicodin.

00:05:41.080 I laughed really, really hard in the clinic.

00:05:45.740 I cried really, really hard in the clinic.

00:05:51.460 I had a small glass of orange juice in the waiting room afterwards.

00:05:56.320 And I hugged the nurse who was there watching to make sure I didn't get sick.

00:06:01.460 I ate an enchilada at the Mexican restaurant across the street.

00:06:05.700 I took a three-hour-long nap.

00:06:08.660 And then I went to rehearsal that night.

00:06:12.140 And here are a list of things that didn't happen.

00:06:15.740 I didn't feel sad.

00:06:18.320 I didn't feel angry.

00:06:20.480 I didn't feel hurt.

00:06:22.420 I didn't feel abandoned.

00:06:24.300 I didn't tell the person who got me pregnant.

00:06:28.320 And I didn't look back.

00:06:32.160 It is so hard to watch that because everything about that second part is a lie.

00:06:37.360 It's demonstrably a lie.

00:06:39.040 You can tell.

00:06:39.880 I mean, she's holding back tears in the video.

00:06:42.180 And, of course, the question is, who are you trying to convince?

00:06:44.880 Who are you trying to convince with this?

00:06:47.500 Obviously, you're looking back.

00:06:49.080 That's the definition of what you're doing right now.

00:06:51.300 Obviously, you were sad.

00:06:52.740 You said that you cried.

00:06:54.280 And she's on the verge of tears even describing this.

00:06:58.120 Obviously, she was abandoned and alone.

00:07:00.180 She had to hug the nurse.

00:07:01.300 She had to hug a stranger.

00:07:02.360 The amount of sympathy that anyone would feel for this woman is awful.

00:07:07.460 The regret is pouring out of her pores.

00:07:11.500 You can tell she doesn't believe it.

00:07:13.600 She's trying to convince herself to believe these lies that she's saying.

00:07:17.580 Notice in the beginning, she said, here's what happened on that day.

00:07:20.460 Everything she acknowledges that happened is material.

00:07:23.740 It's all physical.

00:07:24.440 She doesn't say, you know, I felt this, and then I thought about this, and then I had this idea, and I knew that this meant this.

00:07:30.640 She doesn't.

00:07:30.940 She says, I ate a Danish.

00:07:32.580 She says, I ate a Danish.

00:07:34.220 I took a bunch of drugs because this is a horrible thing, and I knew it was a horrible thing, and I had to numb the pain.

00:07:40.140 And then I ate a burrito.

00:07:41.620 I ate.

00:07:42.660 I drugged myself.

00:07:44.740 I ate.

00:07:45.520 I did this.

00:07:46.460 But there's no metaphysical experience.

00:07:50.400 She's denying all of the metaphysical.

00:07:52.200 She said, I didn't feel.

00:07:53.300 I didn't feel this.

00:07:54.200 I didn't feel this.

00:07:54.920 I didn't feel this.

00:07:55.640 Of course you did.

00:07:56.440 You can't.

00:07:57.180 The only way that you could get yourself to have an abortion is to deny the metaphysical, to say this is just a clump of cells, right?

00:08:03.760 It's not a person with a soul.

00:08:05.620 It's not a baby.

00:08:06.360 It's not a human.

00:08:07.120 It's just material, and I ate the burrito, and I took the drugs.

00:08:10.420 It's really, I mean, you just feel so awful for this woman.

00:08:12.800 And then to be used by the abortion movement, to be used and paraded on there and say, tell them it's a good thing. 0.90

00:08:18.380 Oh, and hold back those tears.

00:08:20.040 We don't want any tears in here.

00:08:21.080 And tell them you're not looking back as you look back.

00:08:24.280 In this issue, there are two options, repentance or doubling down.

00:08:28.600 You can change your mind.

00:08:29.760 You can say, that was a bad thing I did.

00:08:31.680 I know people who've had abortions.

00:08:33.420 You can change your mind, or you can deny the reality.

00:08:37.220 You can deny, deny, deny until you, deny until you die is the Italian-American expression.

00:08:43.140 Deny, it didn't happen.

00:08:44.060 It didn't happen.

00:08:44.800 You know how you know, by the way, they talk about pro-choice.

00:08:46.880 The comments are disabled on this video.

00:08:48.880 It tells you everything you need to know about pro-choice, pro-freedom, pro-choice.

00:08:53.040 Comments are disabled because they know what the comments would say.

00:08:55.520 We know what her comments would be if she were speaking honestly, if she weren't, if she didn't have to hold back the tears.

00:09:01.080 They have to make this a positive good.

00:09:03.820 It's not enough to say abortion is an evil, but we have to tolerate it for some reason. 0.91

00:09:08.220 It's not enough to do safe, legal, and rare, which is the old Hillary Clinton example. 0.94

00:09:13.000 They have to move into the totalitarian principle, as enunciated by T.H. White in The Once and Future King.

00:09:20.320 He said, everything which is not forbidden is compulsory.

00:09:24.480 This is a play on the constitutional principle of English law.

00:09:27.660 Everything which is not forbidden is allowed, right?

00:09:29.660 That's what freedom is.

00:09:30.840 Everything that's not forbidden is allowed.

00:09:32.920 But the totalitarian principle, a play on that is everything that's not forbidden is compulsory.

00:09:38.700 That's the sign above the ant colony in the book.

00:09:42.180 Totalitarianism cannot accept freedom.

00:09:45.300 Totalitarian frameworks, rather, are too fragile.

00:09:48.900 So, the framework of life, the moral framework and the physical framework of totalitarianism cannot tolerate freedom.

00:09:57.320 It's too disconnected from reality.

00:09:59.240 There's a great line about the Soviet Union.

00:10:01.240 In the Soviet Union, the future was always certain, but the past was always changing.

00:10:05.780 They would have to rewrite the past.

00:10:07.160 They would have to rewrite what reality is because their fantasy, their delusion was absolutely certain.

00:10:13.000 And when reality disagrees with that, reality has to be denied.

00:10:15.980 People have to be erased out of history.

00:10:18.380 The circumstances of history have to be changed.

00:10:20.960 There's no room for freedom, and there's no room for free thought.

00:10:24.400 Absurd moral frameworks that permit abortion, they are too fragile to permit free thought.

00:10:30.100 So, you have to say, I didn't feel sad.

00:10:32.840 Well, you just said you cried afterwards.

00:10:34.620 Yeah, but I didn't feel sad.

00:10:36.220 I wasn't alone.

00:10:37.720 You had to hug the nurse.

00:10:39.000 No one was with you.

00:10:39.780 You were alone.

00:10:40.960 No, that's not true.

00:10:42.960 I ate a Danish.

00:10:43.880 I ate a Danish.

00:10:44.620 I ate a burrito.

00:10:45.240 No, I did that.

00:10:45.880 I'm not a moral being.

00:10:47.600 I'm not a spiritual being.

00:10:48.720 I'm just a, it's just physical.

00:10:50.580 But no one believes that.

00:10:52.060 You can tell she doesn't believe.

00:10:53.380 Nobody believes.

00:10:53.940 That's what Jordan Peterson is saying.

00:10:55.600 There can be no disagreement tolerated on abortion.

00:10:58.840 And the reason that the pro-abortion movement can't tolerate it is that any rational discussion

00:11:03.500 of abortion shows that it is clearly wrong.

00:11:06.360 This is Peterson's entire point.

00:11:08.340 If you think about this for more than two seconds, you'll realize that it's wrong.

00:11:11.900 So, we can't permit that.

00:11:12.960 It's just to have, shout, shout your abortion. 1.00

00:11:15.180 Don't reasonably discuss it.

00:11:16.700 Don't think it through.

00:11:17.500 Don't think it through for a second.

00:11:18.660 Just shout it and do it and do it again and shout it.

00:11:21.200 You didn't feel what you know you felt.

00:11:22.760 Just shout it.

00:11:23.560 Shout, shout over people.

00:11:24.460 On this day in history in 1992, several hundred thousand people marched on Washington for abortion rights.

00:11:32.420 This was really the last major gasp of the pro-abortion movement.

00:11:36.820 There was another flare-up in 2005 protesting both Bushes, Bush 1 and Bush 2.

00:11:41.180 Other than that, other than those little flare-ups that come for pro-abortion, the march for life,

00:11:47.580 the march against abortion, is the longest continuous protest in American history.

00:11:51.820 It grows every single year.

00:11:53.260 Now it has presidential recognition.

00:11:54.820 President Trump addressed the march for life this year.

00:11:58.360 The opinions have changed dramatically.

00:12:00.280 And it's because we have permitted freedom on this topic.

00:12:04.540 As freedom has been allowed to expand and the totalitarian principle has been ignored,

00:12:09.560 the opinion has changed in the direction of pro-life.

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00:14:41.440 Back into it.

00:14:42.700 According to a Marist poll from the end of last year, the majority of women, the majority

00:14:47.240 of American women, support making abortion illegal in 99% of cases.

00:14:51.680 That's not what you'll hear on television.

00:14:53.180 That's not what you'll hear on CNN.

00:14:55.200 The majority of American women, 52%, according to this poll last year, say that women support

00:15:01.020 making abortion illegal in all but rape, incest, life of the mother, in all but 1% of cases.

00:15:06.700 They support that.

00:15:07.760 So the pro-abortion fanatics have to shout.

00:15:09.920 They have to enforce their orthodoxy.

00:15:11.860 Free thought is not allowed.

00:15:13.160 They've become much more hysterical.

00:15:15.700 It's something that we have to hunker down.

00:15:20.100 We're not allowed to deal freely in these ideas.

00:15:23.280 We have to gang up with other imaginary victim groups.

00:15:26.020 They have to further divorce their own deluded visions from reality.

00:15:29.120 To discuss that delusion, we will be joined by the official Michael Knowles show, Disney

00:15:34.640 princess correspondent, Princess Faith Moore herself, who recently published an op-ed in

00:15:40.060 the Wall Street Journal called Planned Princesshood.

00:15:42.800 And coincidentally, on this day in history, Pocahontas married English tobacco planter John 0.79

00:15:48.120 Rolfe in Jamestown, Virginia.

00:15:49.940 Now, of course, if Planned Parenthood and the feminists over at Disney had their way, 1.00

00:15:54.120 she'd have just met John Rolfe and then had a one-night stand of casual sex and then gotten 0.99

00:15:58.860 pregnant and then had an abortion. 0.86

00:16:00.300 And then, and only then, would Pocahontas be empowered. 1.00

00:16:03.860 But fortunately, that wasn't the case.

00:16:06.220 Your Highness, Your Highness Princess Moore, thank you for being here.

00:16:10.160 Thanks for having me.

00:16:11.340 It's a pleasure to be here.

00:16:12.060 So, why is Planned Parenthood specifically targeting Disney princesses?

00:16:18.260 Yeah, that's, that is the question.

00:16:20.480 And the answer is, um, Disney princesses are really influential.

00:16:25.920 Little girls love princesses and they love Disney princesses. 0.87

00:16:29.440 And no matter how much the feminists in general have tried to stop them from loving princesses, 1.00

00:16:36.600 they still love them.

00:16:37.800 So, now, what they're doing, instead of saying, um, you know, don't love princesses, love lab

00:16:45.280 technicians, love doctors, love, you know, whoever, sports players, they're like, okay,

00:16:51.320 well, that's not working, fine.

00:16:53.460 Now, we're going to redefine what a princess actually is.

00:16:56.880 Right.

00:16:57.200 And, you know, now it's somebody who, you know, plays sports or fights with swords or has abortions. 0.75

00:17:04.100 They're using the princesses as tools for propaganda because the girls love them so much. 1.00

00:17:09.300 So, they say, we can't turn your attention to G.I.

00:17:11.980 Joe or whatever.

00:17:12.920 So, we're just going to turn the princess into G.I. 1.00

00:17:15.180 Joe.

00:17:16.060 Disney princesses made it a long time before feminists tried to ruin them. 1.00

00:17:20.480 They made them many decades.

00:17:22.140 What changed and when?

00:17:25.380 So, that's an interesting question.

00:17:28.000 So, the first three princess movies happened under Walt Disney's watch, right?

00:17:36.640 So, they happened, you know, from 1939 up until around 1966 and that's when you get like

00:17:42.460 Cinderella and Snow White and Sleeping Beauty and then, um, and then there was what, what

00:17:46.880 they call the Dark Ages, right?

00:17:48.420 Disney died.

00:17:49.320 They didn't make any princess movies.

00:17:50.620 There were a lot of sort of really terrible movies and some good movies.

00:17:53.440 Um, and then they came back with the Renaissance and the Renaissance is the movie, are the movies

00:17:58.320 that we sort of think of when we think Disney, like The Little Mermaid and Beauty and the Beast

00:18:02.240 and Aladdin and all of those movies.

00:18:04.060 Um, and, and what happened when they were making those movies is that all of a sudden people

00:18:10.380 were sort of starting to say like, you know, those earlier princesses, they were kind of,

00:18:17.120 you know, they were kind of damsels in distress.

00:18:20.000 They sort of were sitting around waiting for men to come and save them.

00:18:23.520 So, we're going to update them.

00:18:25.960 And, but the reason that those movies are actually so good still is that they updated

00:18:31.320 them but kept the trope of princess intact. 0.82

00:18:35.060 And so, in a fairy tale, and this, this is what the feminists don't understand. 1.00

00:18:38.580 In a fairy tale, the trope of princess means something.

00:18:42.640 It's a symbol for sort of the, the feminine ideal, like the perfect woman.

00:18:47.980 She's not a real person.

00:18:49.120 She's an ideal.

00:18:50.720 Um, and everything in a fairy tale is really a symbol.

00:18:53.040 You know, like the forest is a symbol for, you know, your inner turmoil and all of these

00:18:56.900 things.

00:18:57.440 Um, and so that's what a princess is. 1.00

00:18:58.980 And so when those Renaissance movies came back, they updated, um, the princesses to make 0.88

00:19:04.880 them more realistic.

00:19:05.960 But they didn't take away the, the sort of inner goodness of the princess.

00:19:11.220 But they had that idea, that idea that like those other princesses are not okay.

00:19:15.000 And we need to somehow, um, make them, make them better, make them feminists. 1.00

00:19:19.780 And, and that pendulum just kind of kept swinging, kept swinging till it was like, it was sort

00:19:24.360 of in the perfect place in Beauty and the Beast.

00:19:26.400 And then it was like, Jasmine's kind of annoying.

00:19:28.680 And then, you know, then you get Pocahontas, Mulan.

00:19:32.160 I know everybody loves Mulan.

00:19:33.060 I'm sorry, but Mulan, um, you know, and then Merida, um, from Brave, princesses that are 0.96

00:19:39.040 just basically, um, just sort of tools for propaganda for a feminist ideology of what a 1.00

00:19:46.620 woman should be. 1.00

00:19:47.080 And, and one of them was elected to the U.S. Senate.

00:19:49.780 That, that is a, that is a real, uh, accomplishment for Disney.

00:19:54.100 Clearly it's worked in some ways.

00:19:55.920 That issue of bringing down the ideal, uh, obviously I've noticed this not just in Disney,

00:20:03.840 but throughout culture.

00:20:05.020 And I wonder how much of this has to do with the democracy of it all.

00:20:09.140 Because we're a democratic culture, lowercase d, and we love, we talk, extol the virtues

00:20:14.900 of democracy all the time.

00:20:16.940 Princesses are, are literally aristocratic.

00:20:19.460 They are the aristocracy.

00:20:20.800 But the idea of the princess is the idea of the aristocracy.

00:20:24.080 They appeal to aristocratic ideals, to nobility, to things that are above that which is common.

00:20:30.880 Democracy does away with all of those things.

00:20:32.960 Democracy is hostile to those things.

00:20:35.580 How much of the degradation of Disney princesses can we simply blame on the hyper democratization,

00:20:43.640 steamrolling over aristocratic ideals in our, in our whole culture?

00:20:49.960 We've lost you.

00:20:50.960 This is the real, oh my gosh.

00:20:52.880 I was, I'm on the edge of my seat.

00:20:55.440 I want to hear about this.

00:20:56.820 And we've lost you.

00:20:57.300 Sorry, I'm back.

00:20:57.420 We got you.

00:20:58.040 Princess, you're back.

00:20:59.160 I thought you were being stolen away by some evil villain and I was going to have to go

00:21:03.140 through the woods and find you.

00:21:04.500 I don't know.

00:21:04.880 I haven't watched a lot of these movies.

00:21:08.340 Do we have you back?

00:21:09.360 No, you're gone again.

00:21:10.320 Oh, this is really sad.

00:21:11.260 I am going to have to go, I'm going to jump through the woods and I'm going to run, you

00:21:16.720 know, with my sword and turn into a frog and I don't know what happens in these things,

00:21:21.480 but this is going to be my chance to save the princess.

00:21:23.680 I'm going to get to put my money where my mouth is.

00:21:25.660 Do, am I really just some paltry, you know, lowercase d democrat in America of some commoner

00:21:31.980 or am I a virtuous knight, a virtuous prince going to save Drew's daughter?

00:21:37.260 Let's see, do we think we can get her back or no?

00:21:42.040 Because I'm perfectly willing to give my view of all of this, my very elitist and aristocratic

00:21:48.860 view.

00:21:49.720 Faith, do we have you?

00:21:51.120 Yeah, I'm back.

00:21:52.040 Oh, thank goodness.

00:21:53.100 I was so nervous that you had fallen asleep and, you know, we'd have, I don't know, again,

00:21:57.380 I'd, again.

00:21:57.900 There was a lot going on.

00:21:58.720 I don't know.

00:21:59.100 There was some sort of evil witch or something, but I'm back. 0.87

00:22:02.720 I think it was the evil witch of feminism, just the evil ideal of feminism is going and 1.00

00:22:08.340 attacking. 0.74

00:22:09.280 My question is, how much all of this has to do with the democracy of it all?

00:22:14.320 You know, princesses are aristocratic. 1.00

00:22:17.240 They're literally the aristocracy.

00:22:18.900 They appeal to aristocratic ideals, to nobility, things that are above the common level of culture.

00:22:25.640 And democracy does away with those things.

00:22:27.460 Our democracy does away with that.

00:22:29.220 It's hostile to the elite, to the noble.

00:22:31.700 How much of the degradation of Disney princesses can we blame on the steamrolling democratization, 0.80

00:22:39.680 constantly trying to be more democratic, more equal, more egalitarian over what were once

00:22:45.160 aristocratic and elitist ideals?

00:22:48.040 Well, I think what we're talking about is basically that we've forgotten that this idea of princess

00:22:56.880 means something else.

00:23:00.020 We think it means a princess, and that's when all the feminists get all up in arms about 1.00

00:23:05.540 her tiara and her dress and what that means to little girls.

00:23:10.440 But that actually isn't the point.

00:23:13.200 The point is really that a princess is sort of this high-born lady, the highest ideal of

00:23:21.880 femininity and womanhood. 1.00

00:23:23.780 And so when we start to think about it like that, like, oh, she's really the princess,

00:23:29.300 and there are these serfs and people, that's not what it's supposed to be at all.

00:23:35.040 But it is when we think about it like that that we begin to sort of misunderstand it completely

00:23:42.760 and move away from that ideal that we're supposed to be kind of taking on.

00:23:49.720 That's absolutely right.

00:23:51.020 It was predicted by Edmund Burke and others to see that happening.

00:23:55.400 And I'm very sorry to see that happen.

00:23:58.100 But, hey, at least we have VHS.

00:23:59.780 We can watch Snow White.

00:24:01.080 You know, that's kind of a cultural observation in general.

00:24:03.560 We can go retire to our country clubs and, you know, read all of the great books.

00:24:09.640 That's right.

00:24:10.240 Turn it off.

00:24:10.920 Smoke a cigar.

00:24:12.120 There's always hope springs eternal in the human breast.

00:24:15.320 Princess, Your Highness, excellent to have you here.

00:24:18.420 I'm glad we were able to rescue you from the feminist demons of Skype and let us know if 1.00

00:24:25.860 you have any more technological troubles, and we will go and ride on white horses and save you.

00:24:31.660 I will come to you first.

00:24:33.560 Thank you.

00:24:34.320 Wonderful.

00:24:34.920 Good to see you, Faith.

00:24:36.120 Thanks for having me.

00:24:36.940 Great to see you, too.

00:24:38.220 All right.

00:24:38.680 Let's try to get into the mailbag a little bit.

00:24:40.400 I think we can do one or two questions, and then I have to say goodbye to those of you

00:24:44.720 who are on Facebook and YouTube.

00:24:46.260 First question from Spencer.

00:24:48.620 Oh, swarthiest of empty book writers, Knowles, you have said that you enjoy the music of Frank

00:24:53.900 Sinatra and have quoted some of his songs on the show.

00:24:56.160 What are your favorite Sinatra songs and albums, and what other types of music do you enjoy?

00:25:01.380 Spencer.

00:25:02.420 I do love Sinatra.

00:25:04.060 I've had a Sinatra-esque fedora since I was like nine years old or something.

00:25:08.740 When I was in fourth grade, I sang with my elementary school orchestra playing.

00:25:12.580 I did Young at Heart.

00:25:14.040 I love Sinatra.

00:25:14.780 I probably know every Sinatra song.

00:25:16.260 One of my favorites is That's Life.

00:25:18.040 You know, That's Life.

00:25:18.840 That's what all the people say.

00:25:20.480 You're riding high in April.

00:25:21.740 Shot down in May.

00:25:22.640 Because it's the most conservative song ever written, maybe other than Man in the Mirror by Michael Jackson.

00:25:28.280 But I love that.

00:25:29.100 One of the greatest albums ever made in pop music is In the We Small Hours by Sinatra.

00:25:34.920 That's one of those moody things when you're driving along the highway, smoking a cigarette, feeling bad for yourself.

00:25:40.800 You know, it's kind of cloudy around you.

00:25:42.360 That's a great album.

00:25:43.880 Really, I guess the first concept album probably in pop music.

00:25:47.340 As for other popular music, and by that I mean, I don't mean Kesha.

00:25:51.020 I mean like post-World War I, all of the American Songbook, Dean Martin, Nat King Cole, all those guys.

00:25:58.160 Elvis.

00:25:58.540 I love Elvis.

00:25:59.260 I'm a profound Elvis fan.

00:26:01.020 Some Motown, some soul.

00:26:02.380 I have a soft spot for Van Morrison.

00:26:04.780 In pre-pop music, I love Bach and Mozart and Haydn and Handel and all those guys.

00:26:09.660 For even older stuff, because we get very myopic in our culture.

00:26:14.100 I talk about how conservatives or Philistines and, you know, even conservatives, but college kids today especially, they don't have any culture.

00:26:21.680 They don't know of anything that happened before yesterday.

00:26:24.300 They do think, I actually think that Tide Pods are the most delicious dessert in history.

00:26:29.280 And they're very good, but they're not the most delicious.

00:26:31.380 There are other creme brulee and things like that.

00:26:33.220 So there's a great album on Spotify.

00:26:35.760 If you want to go all the way back, basically some of the earliest music you can find.

00:26:39.980 There is songs from the time of the Crusades.

00:26:42.960 There's a good one called Abjoy et Abjovens Mapais.

00:26:46.420 Try that and then you'll get into like a very, very old school sensibility.

00:26:50.780 You'll start chanting.

00:26:52.000 It'll be very good for your mindset.

00:26:54.180 Next question from Clay. 0.94

00:26:56.180 Godfather of troll. 0.74

00:26:57.780 You often say, that's funny. 0.93

00:27:00.660 That's quite a coincidence.

00:27:01.860 You often say that some conservatives act like Philistines.

00:27:05.920 I'm not familiar with this saying.

00:27:07.600 What does it mean?

00:27:08.280 Clay, you proved my point, pal.

00:27:09.760 I'm sorry to say.

00:27:12.060 Philistines, it means they are uncultured or they don't like culture or they're hostile to culture. 0.97

00:27:18.220 The word came into common usage after a confrontation between college students and the locals in Germany in, I think, the 17th century.

00:27:29.280 So right around that time when the university was getting very, very popular, this was from a, it's from the Bible.

00:27:36.260 You know, the Philistines are upon you. 1.00

00:27:38.020 That's the quote.

00:27:38.780 And it's like, you know, it's not just, you know, these crazy tribes trying to conquer the Israelites. 0.88

00:27:44.400 It's saying, you know, you're so hostile to culture. 0.95

00:27:47.180 It's like the barbarians at the gates. 0.96

00:27:48.980 You don't, you don't participate in this culture at all.

00:27:51.920 So don't be a Philistine. 1.00

00:27:53.420 Don't, it's good not to be a Philistine. 1.00

00:27:55.100 We're all sort of Philistines because nobody reads books anymore, myself included.

00:27:59.440 Only Andrew Klavan has read all the books.

00:28:01.420 So it's good to try to diminish your Philistinism. 0.94

00:28:05.520 Next quote, I'll try to do one more.

00:28:06.700 Then I got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.

00:28:08.240 From Ben, I've noticed that you've made frequent references to the ancient Athenian historian Thucydides in your podcast.

00:28:16.340 And at least once in your writings or not in my writings.

00:28:19.480 What you're referring to is that I dedicate reasons to vote for Democrats.

00:28:23.760 I use the same introduction to that book that Thucydides did for his history of the Peloponnesian War.

00:28:29.580 I say this is not an essay to win the applause of the moment, but a contribution for all time, which is true.

00:28:35.720 It was true for Thucydides. 0.92

00:28:36.720 It's true of my magnum opus as well.

00:28:39.180 The question goes on.

00:28:40.480 I find his history of the Peloponnesian War fascinating and relevant to the modern day.

00:28:44.040 You're probably familiar with how the Greek city-states created a coalition called the Delian League shortly after the Persian Wars,

00:28:50.640 based on the notion that they were strongest when united against Persia.

00:28:53.960 Unfortunately, over time, that became dominated by Athens, became the Athenian Empire that demanded tribute from member states,

00:29:01.720 used military force to keep them in line.

00:29:03.840 It was this tyranny against the Spartans that brought on the Peloponnesian War.

00:29:08.580 However, while I do not believe that modern supranational organizations like the EU have reached that level of malignancy of the Athenian Empire,

00:29:16.980 I can't help but notice similarities.

00:29:19.400 The one-state hegemony of Germany over the EU, the onerous taxes required by Brussels,

00:29:24.340 the anti-democratic leanings of the EU, suggestions that they form an EU army,

00:29:28.920 the populist backlash like Brexit.

00:29:31.000 Does the work of Thucydides demonstrate that supranational organizations are doomed to fail?

00:29:35.300 It does. It actually says more than that, though.

00:29:39.100 And this is a very conservative idea, which is that you should keep the government as local as you can.

00:29:44.960 The more local the government, the more responsive it will be, the better it will be, the freer that you will be.

00:29:49.660 You have to be very careful.

00:29:51.280 Now, the lesson from Thucydides, from the Peloponnesian War,

00:29:55.560 is not that supranational organizations are bound to fail.

00:29:58.800 It's that even national organizations, right?

00:30:01.220 That Thucydides would have said that you keep it in the polis, in just the city-state,

00:30:06.160 because, you know, the Athenian Empire united not even all of Greece, just part of Greece.

00:30:11.700 Athenian imperial democracy wasn't supranational.

00:30:14.340 It wasn't even national.

00:30:15.500 So you have to be very careful.

00:30:16.940 This could apply to national organizations or even regional organizations, too.

00:30:21.720 We have to be very careful with these organizations.

00:30:24.400 Some supranational or international organizations have worked out well.

00:30:28.160 NATO has worked out well, certainly, in the 20th century. 0.96

00:30:31.500 Some have not worked out well, like the European Union,

00:30:33.800 which has been mostly a spectacular failure for national sovereignty and for culture.

00:30:40.480 And, you know, like Germany is the worst country in the history of the world. 0.94

00:30:43.580 I'm going to have to do a whole show on this from the fall of Rome to the present.

00:30:47.140 But, you know, they tried to destroy the world once in the 20th century.

00:30:50.220 We beat them.

00:30:50.860 They tried to do it again.

00:30:52.180 20 years later, we beat them.

00:30:53.600 And then we gave them control of Europe, and they've done it again.

00:30:56.940 Surprise, surprise.

00:30:58.400 We have to be very, very careful of these and use them for very specific purposes.

00:31:02.580 When you have these supranational organizations that just are there,

00:31:05.880 they're just peering and watching you and just kind of encroaching more and more on your liberty,

00:31:11.040 get rid of them.

00:31:11.660 That's no good.

00:31:12.720 I've got to say goodbye to Facebook and YouTube.

00:31:14.160 I'm sorry.

00:31:14.980 That's what I have to do.

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00:31:53.400 The Leftist Tears Tumblr.

00:31:55.260 When that earthquake just happened right before our show,

00:31:58.620 I assumed it was a loud national groaning and screaming and wailing and gnashing of teeth

00:32:05.720 because I was going to talk about how awful abortion is.

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00:32:31.520 Next question from Nathan.

00:32:48.240 Michael, I think you are right about the silent majority in the short term,

00:32:52.720 but your justification proves Ben right.

00:32:55.920 Nixon's silent majority turned on him after the Tet offensive,

00:32:59.020 thanks to Commie Cronkite, as you point out. 0.97

00:33:02.060 They are flakes who scatter to the wind at the first sign of trouble.

00:33:05.740 Ben correctly stayed true to conservative values over temporary electoral power.

00:33:10.100 What good is a Republican Congress of conservatives who aren't true conservatives

00:33:14.680 with a capital T and a capital C and a trademark sign above them?

00:33:18.460 So I think what we're debating, once again, is the election of Donald Trump,

00:33:23.120 where I said it was a good idea to do it.

00:33:26.120 We should, conservatives should take what we can get.

00:33:29.040 And other conservatives said, no, he's just too awful.

00:33:32.100 I can't lend him my support.

00:33:34.740 I think I'm right about this.

00:33:36.300 I still think I'm right about this.

00:33:37.500 You're right that the Reagan Democrats, as they were once called,

00:33:42.200 or the silent majority, as Richard Nixon called them,

00:33:44.700 or the Trump Democrats, the populist people, as Trump would refer to them,

00:33:50.180 they are not conservatives.

00:33:53.600 They don't share our political views entirely.

00:33:56.280 They're certainly not ideological, and they join coalitions with us for many good reasons,

00:34:01.140 by the way, many good reasons that conservatives might want to take a look at,

00:34:04.640 like the preservation of tradition and common sense beyond theory.

00:34:10.580 Very often, the Reagan Democrats or the silent majority are people who say,

00:34:16.000 yeah, your theory is fine, but let's look at reality.

00:34:19.240 And then the ideological people say, who cares if it works in practice?

00:34:22.100 Does it work in theory?

00:34:23.760 In the long term, we're all dead.

00:34:26.740 There was a fear that if we elect this person or support this person,

00:34:30.880 then 40 years from now, something bad will happen.

00:34:35.060 Politics doesn't happen in the future.

00:34:37.380 Politics happens in real time.

00:34:38.920 Politics is things that happen in the real world,

00:34:41.440 and it doesn't happen like it happens in philosophy books.

00:34:45.040 It happens in real time and space.

00:34:47.240 We should take the wins that we can get,

00:34:49.280 because you say that the Trump voters have been proven wrong.

00:34:56.220 You say that the people who didn't vote for Trump have been proven right 0.55

00:34:58.600 because of some big budget.

00:35:00.380 There was an omnibus budget bill that went through

00:35:02.180 that Trump said he didn't like very much.

00:35:04.120 Well, okay, but let's look at the other side.

00:35:06.100 If the people who didn't vote for Trump,

00:35:08.700 who said we shouldn't vote for him because he's too yucky and we don't like him,

00:35:11.960 if they had their way, we would have much more abortion. 1.00

00:35:15.940 We would have no Mexico City rule.

00:35:18.040 We would have the Obamacare mandate.

00:35:20.920 We would have massive regulation as opposed to the massive deregulation that we've had.

00:35:24.940 We would have a radical Supreme Court justice that Hillary Clinton would have appointed 1.00

00:35:30.000 who would have gutted the First and Second Amendments as she promised in her campaign. 1.00

00:35:35.280 We would have had more weakness overseas as we had for the last eight years

00:35:40.020 that Hillary Clinton was personally involved in, by the way, when she was Secretary of State.

00:35:44.220 We would have had, who knows in the future what would have happened with the federal courts,

00:35:49.800 because it's not just the one place on the Supreme Court.

00:35:52.820 Donald Trump has stacked the court with federal judges.

00:35:55.240 We'd have no tax reform.

00:35:57.740 We would have perhaps higher taxes.

00:36:00.920 It goes on and on and on and on.

00:36:03.060 And people say, yes, well, okay, those are some victories.

00:36:05.540 Okay, Heritage Foundation says this has been the most conservative first year

00:36:09.260 in the history of modern politics.

00:36:11.180 Okay, President Trump has enacted two-thirds of our agenda.

00:36:14.180 But, you know, what about 10 years from now?

00:36:16.360 What about a big budget?

00:36:18.080 Come on, man.

00:36:18.760 This is reality.

00:36:19.880 The deal in reality, politics is reality.

00:36:22.180 And if you say, well, I don't want to have a huge swath of the American population,

00:36:28.860 the silent majority or the Reagan Democrats,

00:36:31.700 I don't want to be associated with them because I don't agree with them on everything.

00:36:35.640 Okay, good luck.

00:36:36.760 You know, go vote for the Libertarian candidate or the Green Party candidate or whatever.

00:36:40.660 And I hope you feel very proud of yourself and very morally pure.

00:36:44.840 But that doesn't do very much for the country.

00:36:47.520 It doesn't do any good for the country.

00:36:49.460 And Lord Acton put it very well.

00:36:50.940 He said, at all times, the friends of liberty are few.

00:36:54.280 They achieve their ends.

00:36:55.780 I'm paraphrasing.

00:36:56.560 He said it much nicer than I did.

00:36:57.900 They achieve their ends by associating with auxiliaries whose goals differ from their own.

00:37:03.420 And this involves a lot of moral risk.

00:37:05.400 You have to risk your own integrity and your own morality by supporting someone who isn't perfect,

00:37:11.860 obviously isn't perfect, is eminently imperfect.

00:37:14.480 But that's the only way to achieve political good in a liberal democracy.

00:37:17.920 That's the only way to achieve anything.

00:37:19.180 And I'm more than willing to do it.

00:37:20.940 And I think conservatives should do it too.

00:37:22.840 I think conservatives ought to be less rationalistic and less ideological and less worried about

00:37:27.440 if it works in theory, who cares if it works in practice?

00:37:31.000 And they should deal in realities.

00:37:33.660 And I think we're seeing that bear out.

00:37:35.520 Is President Trump doing things that we don't like?

00:37:38.720 Yeah, of course.

00:37:39.700 That budget was really awful.

00:37:41.280 It's really terrible.

00:37:42.060 Why he hasn't defunded Planned Parenthood, why the congressional Republicans haven't defunded Planned Parenthood is beyond me.

00:37:48.760 But it's better than the alternative.

00:37:50.180 It's a lot better than the alternative.

00:37:51.580 A lot of good things are happening.

00:37:53.140 And you should keep that in mind and not let the perfect get in the way of the good.

00:37:56.820 Next question from Sean.

00:37:59.400 Michael, which left-wing media sources do you think are the least reliable in reporting the facts?

00:38:04.280 Yes.

00:38:06.300 I think that's my answer.

00:38:08.020 Washington Post is particularly awful these days.

00:38:11.040 It used to be fine, or relatively fine.

00:38:14.240 But the Washington Post, as you know, is where democracy dies in darkness.

00:38:17.700 I'll single them out because the lies that they espouse are in the language that they use.

00:38:24.620 It's in the language itself. 0.94

00:38:25.980 So obviously, the editorial staff picks ridiculous stories. 0.89

00:38:29.280 They only pick stories that will attack Trump. 0.74

00:38:30.960 They don't pick any stories that will support his narrative.

00:38:35.400 Excuse me. 0.95

00:38:36.600 But the language they use, they use the phrase not just illegal immigration, which is a ridiculous phrase.

00:38:43.840 To be an immigrant, you have to be accepted by a country.

00:38:45.580 You can be an immigrant, or an illegal alien, or a resident alien.

00:38:48.940 But they're not immigrants. 0.79

00:38:49.980 But they use it to conflate legal immigrants from illegal aliens.

00:38:55.000 So they'll say, immigration does this.

00:38:57.060 Trump is bad for immigrants.

00:38:58.400 Trump isn't bad for immigrants.

00:38:59.640 Trump is perfectly fine for people who immigrate to this country and observe our immigration laws. 0.87

00:39:04.000 He's a little harsh on criminals.

00:39:06.240 That's a different thing.

00:39:07.060 That's not an immigrant. 1.00

00:39:08.540 That's a criminal.

00:39:09.700 And so when you read them, it's very hard, unless you're very precise with your language,

00:39:13.780 very careful with language.

00:39:15.260 It's hard not to get sucked in by the facts, because bad language gives away whole premises.

00:39:19.880 I'm doing a video for PragerU that's coming out soon on this very topic.

00:39:23.640 That's why I think they're particularly bad. 0.98

00:39:25.060 But they're all ridiculous. 0.96

00:39:26.240 It's worth reading them all to see what they're thinking and to get a different perspective. 0.99

00:39:30.080 And then you, within about seven seconds, I think, can knock down that perspective and say it's completely ridiculous. 0.94

00:39:35.900 From Ryan. 0.89

00:39:36.900 Come on, Michael.

00:39:38.140 Come on.

00:39:39.060 Your history of Protestantism is a bit slanted.

00:39:42.040 There were radical reformers, of course.

00:39:44.740 Luther and the Wittenbergers, however, never sought to leave the church.

00:39:49.040 Luther was excommunicated in ex-surge domine in 1520.

00:39:53.040 Still ten years later, Melanchthon's Augsburg Confession made it clear that the desire that,

00:39:58.860 one, a council be called to resolve their issues, and two, that it be done so all of us can accept and preserve a single true religion.

00:40:06.940 This, too, is argued because the Turks must be opposed by a unified Christendom.

00:40:11.200 See the preface to the Augsburg Confession.

00:40:13.020 The Lutheran polity, in turn, was never formalized like the Calvinist polity.

00:40:16.860 That's because the Lutherans allowed princes to function as emergency bishops,

00:40:20.980 and they only allowed this to occur when Rome refused to give the German churches priests,

00:40:26.440 the breakaway churches priests.

00:40:28.720 Lutherans were not iconoclasts like the Reformed.

00:40:31.340 Lutheran liturgical reforms were, in fact, quite conservative.

00:40:33.760 Now I'm under no whitewashed delusions about some of the flaws in Luther

00:40:37.560 and some of the atrocities committed by Protestants later on.

00:40:40.480 Some of his later writings, in particular, make Trump's rants sound tame.

00:40:44.160 But it's also wrong to characterize the Lutheran Reformation as radical.

00:40:48.260 If you're interested, my dissertation examines the theology of the body in light of Luther's paradigmatic distinction.

00:40:53.880 All right, I'll read that later. I don't need to read that on the show.

00:40:56.880 Check it out. I absolutely will read it because I am very interested in these questions in this time period.

00:41:03.360 I am very hard on Luther.

00:41:04.800 Luther is radical because he cracked Christendom. 0.98

00:41:07.580 That's why I attack Luther as being, and because he sucked up to the Muslim invaders. 0.98

00:41:11.740 Those are the reasons I'm hard on Luther. 0.95

00:41:13.140 I'm really not hard on Luther for his theology because his views were almost exactly the same as the Catholic views.

00:41:22.260 He believed in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

00:41:24.980 He believed in the Immaculate Conception of Mary.

00:41:27.160 He believed in the perpetual virginity of Mary.

00:41:29.580 He believed in the sacraments.

00:41:31.580 And for that matter, Zwingli and Calvin also both believed in lots of these things,

00:41:36.000 the perpetual virginity of Mary.

00:41:37.240 Virtually everybody believed in that from the first century through very, very modern times.

00:41:43.100 They accepted that as clearly implied by scripture.

00:41:46.740 So, yeah, I am a little harsh on Luther.

00:41:48.820 But, you know, there are some things that can be said for the guy that can't be said for his followers.

00:41:53.760 The real problem is that he cracked Christendom.

00:41:56.840 That's what Hamlet's about.

00:41:58.220 And so that is a tough one to get over.

00:42:01.260 But all in all, he's better than a lot of other people.

00:42:04.220 What's worth pointing out here, I think, is that all heresies, all breaks from the church,

00:42:09.520 this occurred to me the other day, they all seem to try to get rid of mystery.

00:42:14.300 Mysteries that they can't really tolerate.

00:42:15.980 So, these days, a lot of breakaway churches or very modern churches,

00:42:23.620 they don't accept the perpetual virginity of Mary because it just is hard to make sense of.

00:42:28.220 They can't accept the Immaculate Conception.

00:42:30.600 Early on in the church, there was the Arian heresy.

00:42:33.540 That was the one that denied the divinity of Christ

00:42:35.520 because they couldn't understand how Christ is holy God and holy man.

00:42:40.400 They can't resolve that mystery.

00:42:41.940 It's not a puzzle to be solved.

00:42:43.680 It's a mystery.

00:42:44.200 It's a holy mystery that tells us something about the faith and about God and about ourselves.

00:42:48.560 The Albigensian heresy, which came later, basically denied the body.

00:42:53.180 It said that only the spirit was good and the body was utterly depraved and awful and evil

00:42:58.220 and we have to reject it and be ascetic

00:43:00.580 because it couldn't resolve that we are spirits but we have a corrupted body.

00:43:05.900 It couldn't resolve the mystery of the unity of man.

00:43:08.320 So, they had to reject that.

00:43:09.320 A lot of others have followed from that.

00:43:11.100 Islam takes similar issues.

00:43:12.740 They couldn't resolve how God is God and dies on a cross, so they deny the cross.

00:43:18.660 They crucified him not is a line from the Koran and St. Paul writes about this.

00:43:23.440 He says, many are walking now and I tell you even weeping who deny the cross of Christ.

00:43:28.540 A lot of modern people have issue with the sacraments.

00:43:31.320 They can't understand how the physical and the metaphysical touch.

00:43:34.280 That mystery is too much and you can't resolve it.

00:43:36.800 It's a mystery.

00:43:38.040 It's not a puzzle to figure out.

00:43:39.600 It's a mystery that tells you about your faith.

00:43:41.880 I think this is what all heresy comes from and I'm not really accusing Luther of this.

00:43:46.840 Luther didn't have trouble really with some of those mysteries other than the guy sitting on the throne in Rome.

00:43:52.640 He had trouble with that mystery of authority.

00:43:55.100 But I think when we're considering questions of faith and religion, if you find yourself trying to come up with an easy answer to mysteries of faith, you're probably going the wrong way.

00:44:08.100 As Dr. Johnson pointed out, all shallows are clear.

00:44:11.060 From Craig.

00:44:13.000 Hi, Michael.

00:44:13.520 Do we have time for it?

00:44:14.080 We have time for like one or two more.

00:44:15.540 Hi, Michael.

00:44:15.960 I've been smoking a cigar for a few months and I hope not the same cigar.

00:44:21.140 You're probably smoking cigars generally.

00:44:23.100 As you say, the body is a temple and the temple needs incense.

00:44:25.740 What cigars would you recommend that I can get at a local shop?

00:44:28.240 Thanks, Craig.

00:44:29.600 One I've been smoking lately that's very good is the Davidoff Escurio Gran Perfecto.

00:44:34.440 It's overpriced, but it's very delicious.

00:44:36.460 That has an Ecuador Habano wrapper, Brazilian binder, Brazilian and Dominican filler, and it's rolled in the Dominican Republic.

00:44:43.740 That's a good one.

00:44:44.780 I smoked a really nice new cigar last week in New York at the Cigar Inn.

00:44:48.020 Can't remember the name now.

00:44:49.140 Sorry.

00:44:49.720 It's one of these new boutiques that's come out.

00:44:52.740 And the Nat Sherman Timeless is really good.

00:44:55.080 You can now get it other places and it's an excellent cigar.

00:44:58.960 Fuente Grande Reserve is very good.

00:45:00.840 I've been smoking a lot of Tetuaje Cajonu 2006.

00:45:03.560 Excellent.

00:45:03.880 If you're just starting out, if you're not totally into it yet and you want a good cigar on a budget, Oliva V is great.

00:45:11.120 My father, Nub Cain, can't go wrong.

00:45:14.440 Let's do one more.

00:45:15.380 We'll get one more and we'll close it.

00:45:16.720 Cut it for the day.

00:45:17.540 Bradley.

00:45:18.360 Hi, Michael.

00:45:19.180 You and Klavan are always talking about the culture and that conservatives generally do not do well on that political front or that cultural front, rather.

00:45:26.100 My question is, what can the average Joe do to help shift the culture toward conservatism?

00:45:31.000 Particularly, what can a 30-some-year-old cigar smoker history teacher do? 0.95

00:45:37.360 Interesting.

00:45:38.260 Please don't tell me that I have to start watching Roseanne or the Kardashians.

00:45:42.360 Ha ha.

00:45:42.760 Love the show.

00:45:43.260 Thanks, Brad.

00:45:44.620 You're in the perfect place.

00:45:46.100 You are in the ideal place.

00:45:47.220 You don't have to watch the Kardashians.

00:45:48.820 You don't even have to watch Roseanne.

00:45:50.480 I kind of like Roseanne, but you don't have to watch it.

00:45:52.040 You're in the perfect place because the culture is formed in those schools and you're teaching a highly politicized subject where the left has succeeded in the culture because they invaded all of the schooling, all of the universities, and even younger, and Hollywood and New York.

00:46:09.360 So you have the whole culture.

00:46:11.000 You are in a prime spot, especially teaching history.

00:46:13.680 You should teach true history.

00:46:14.900 You should not be afraid to ignore people like Howard Zinn, which Mitch Daniels, as head of Purdue and as governor of Indiana, called his ridiculous revisionism execrable.

00:46:27.480 You should teach true history.

00:46:28.820 You should teach that Christopher Columbus was a great man and a great devoted explorer who founded our civilization.

00:46:34.280 You should teach that the founders and framers of the United States were great men, wonderful men, who formed the greatest, freest, most prosperous, charitable country in the history of the world, who were much smarter than we are today, who were much better educated than we are today.

00:46:50.380 You should teach that.

00:46:51.340 You should teach the true history of science.

00:46:53.560 The history of science is totally ignored.

00:46:55.800 People think that science just floats in the air somewhere.

00:46:58.920 It just popped up one day.

00:46:59.880 You should teach the religious underpinnings and the religious premises that are required by science and the profound piety and Western culture of the people who founded science, like Francis Bacon and Isaac Newton.

00:47:14.160 You should teach all of those things fearlessly because there is an awful movement of historicism and schools of resentment that want to hate our forebears, that want to spit on the shoulders of giants.

00:47:28.160 But we shouldn't spit on the shoulders of giants.

00:47:30.780 We're not giants ourselves.

00:47:31.920 We're dwarfs standing on the shoulders of giants.

00:47:34.260 Maybe we can see a little further.

00:47:35.440 It's only because of those guys.

00:47:36.740 I would teach a grateful history and an accurate history, and you'll be doing the Lord's work.

00:47:41.060 Okay, that's our show.

00:47:42.860 Try to survive the weekend.

00:47:44.240 I know Drew is not only not here, but he's on the road.

00:47:47.680 The show, try to survive.

00:47:49.380 In the meantime, speaking of Drew, you can listen to Another Kingdom, which is his story that he wrote that I perform all the characters in.

00:47:55.620 You can get that wherever fine narrative podcasts are downloaded.

00:47:58.500 In the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles.

00:48:00.120 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:48:01.140 I will see you Monday.

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 05, 2018

Ep. 134 - Everything Not Forbidden Is Compulsory

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