The Michael Knowles Show - October 12, 2023


Ep. 1349 - Will America Bomb Iran？


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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) joins the show to talk about his opposition to a possible strike on Iran, and why he thinks it's a bad idea. Plus, a look at the White House response to the Hamas attack on Israel.

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00:00:00.000 In the wake of the Hamas terror attack on Israel and the subsequent Israeli response on Gaza,
00:00:06.040 most people around the world are looking for a way to stop the escalation
00:00:10.040 and restore peace before we all end up in a full-blown world war.
00:00:14.840 Most people. But not Lindsey Graham, who suggests instead that we bomb Iran.
00:00:22.300 For every Israeli or American hostage executed by Hamas,
00:00:27.280 we should take down an Iranian oil refinery.
00:00:31.940 The only way you're going to keep this war from escalating is to hold Iran accountable. 0.97
00:00:36.560 How much more death and destruction do we have to take from the Iranian regime? 0.99
00:00:41.880 I am confident this was planned and funded by the Iranians. 1.00
00:00:45.480 Hamas is a bunch of animals who deserve to be treated like animals. 1.00
00:00:50.440 So if I was Israel, I would go in on the ground. 0.82
00:00:53.020 There is no truce to be had here.
00:00:55.000 I would dismantle Hamas. 0.73
00:00:57.320 This is the best opportunity Israel has to destroy Hamas. 0.96
00:01:01.260 Take it to the Iranians. 1.00
00:01:03.360 If you harm one American in Syria by using your Iranian militia against us in Syria, 0.75
00:01:08.380 if you escalate the war by urging Hezbollah to attack Israel in the north,
00:01:13.760 if Hamas kills one American and Israeli hostage,
00:01:16.860 we're going to blow up your oil refineries and put you out of business. 0.96
00:01:20.140 It is now time to take the war to the Ayatollah's backyard. 0.99
00:01:26.000 No, no, it's not.
00:01:27.860 That's a bad idea.
00:01:28.960 That is, in fact, the exact opposite of a good idea.
00:01:33.100 I like Lindsey Graham. 1.00
00:01:34.420 I know a lot of people don't like him.
00:01:35.520 I like him.
00:01:36.020 I get a kick out of him.
00:01:37.160 He's a nice guy.
00:01:38.840 No.
00:01:39.140 And in Lindsey Graham's defense, 1.00
00:01:42.660 bomb Iran is, in fact, Lindsey Graham's answer to almost every question.
00:01:48.140 What would you like for lunch today, sir?
00:01:49.500 Bomb Iran. 0.99
00:01:50.580 Sparkling or still?
00:01:51.620 Bomb Iran. 0.99
00:01:53.160 Please enter your four-digit PIN.
00:01:55.440 Bomb Iran. 0.99
00:01:59.540 Enter.
00:02:01.120 That's one foreign policy preference, but it is not the right one.
00:02:05.320 The Hamas attack was hideous.
00:02:07.180 Israeli retaliation is justified. 1.00
00:02:11.160 And the American interest is clear.
00:02:13.520 Contain the war before events spiral out of our control.
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00:02:48.000 Today, we have Senator Rand Paul coming up on the show a little bit later.
00:02:51.820 We're going to get to Senator Paul even before the member block today.
00:02:55.840 So stay tuned for that.
00:02:56.820 But before that, well, we talk about Senator Paul's Senate colleague, Lindsey Graham,
00:03:03.720 calling to bomb Iran. 0.83
00:03:04.940 There are a lot of voices calling to bomb Iran and escalate the war, even if they are arguing
00:03:09.840 that such an action would de-escalate the war.
00:03:12.060 I just want to give you a little picture of the threat assessment capabilities of the U.S.
00:03:17.580 government right now.
00:03:18.500 Joe Biden and his spokesman, his sort of spokesman, John Kirby, are arguing that the biggest threat
00:03:29.800 to the American people, the biggest danger that we face is not Hamas. 0.79
00:03:35.060 It's not Iran. 0.82
00:03:36.220 It's not war of any kind.
00:03:37.960 It's not even a nuclear bomb.
00:03:39.780 It's the sun monster.
00:03:41.000 The only existential threat humanity faces, even more frightening than a nuclear war,
00:03:48.500 is global warming going above 1.5 degrees in the next 10 years.
00:03:54.700 Given all the nuclear players in these two areas where we are now engaged on,
00:03:59.120 does the president stand by that comment?
00:04:01.080 Absolutely he does.
00:04:02.200 Climate change is an existential threat.
00:04:03.920 It actually threatens and is capable of wiping out all human life on Earth over time.
00:04:10.460 I don't know how more existential you can get to that,
00:04:12.940 but that doesn't mean that we walk away from our obligations,
00:04:15.900 our national security interests, in very dangerous parts of the world.
00:04:19.000 John, he said it was more frightening than a nuclear war.
00:04:24.440 It's more frightening than a nuclear war in this moment?
00:04:28.320 The president believes wholeheartedly that climate change is an existential threat
00:04:33.380 to all of human life on the planet.
00:04:35.220 That's just science.
00:04:36.100 That's fact, Martha.
00:04:36.920 But it doesn't mean that we turn our back on the other challenges
00:04:39.840 facing this country and our allies and partners around the world.
00:04:43.360 That's just science, Martha.
00:04:44.740 That's just fact.
00:04:46.440 The sun monster is far more threatening than a nuclear weapon in the hands of terrorists
00:04:51.620 or any of our other enemies.
00:04:53.520 That's just a fact.
00:04:54.480 It's just read a blog.
00:04:55.540 How do you not know that, Martha?
00:04:56.940 Love Martha McCallum just pushing back, saying,
00:04:59.460 hold on, I just want to be sure, John Kirby.
00:05:02.540 John Kirby is the NSC spokesman.
00:05:05.920 He would be the White House press secretary.
00:05:07.700 If it were not politically incorrect to fire Corrine Jean-Pierre,
00:05:12.060 who is an absolutely awful White House press secretary,
00:05:14.640 but who can claim a lot of identity politics victim points because she's a black lesbian. 1.00
00:05:18.920 If not for the political incorrectness of firing her,
00:05:21.960 that man would be the spokesman for the president of the United States.
00:05:25.920 And that man is defending fully the remarks of the president of the United States,
00:05:33.040 who believes that the temperature, the sun monster, the climate is a greater threat to us
00:05:41.320 than a nuclear weapon.
00:05:43.480 So this then brings up a question.
00:05:47.060 Even if you believe that greater U.S. involvement in this Middle East war is warranted right now,
00:05:53.660 I don't think that's a very popular position in the U.S.,
00:05:56.960 but if you are one of the people who believe we need to start sending troops in,
00:06:00.880 we need more troops in, we need more ships in, we need to go bomb the mullahs in Iran. 1.00
00:06:06.020 Is this really the team that you would trust to lead that kind of a war?
00:06:11.420 You trust Joe Biden, who thinks that Mother Earth is a greater threat to us than the mullahs, 1.00
00:06:19.500 that he says we need to go bomb, or that at least Lindsey Graham says we need to go bomb?
00:06:24.620 This is the team you trust, the guys who have bungled basically every foreign policy decision
00:06:29.700 in my entire lifetime.
00:06:32.780 They're the ones you trust to lead this extremely precarious war.
00:06:36.360 We were already on the brink of World War III
00:06:38.260 because of the outbreak of the first major war in Europe since World War II in Ukraine.
00:06:43.320 Already on the brink.
00:06:44.780 Then war erupts in the Holy Land.
00:06:47.340 Already bringing in Lebanon now. 1.00
00:06:49.760 Probably going to bring in, well, Iran, I guess, was already involved because they fund Hamas. 0.99
00:06:56.380 You think that's a good idea to have Joe Biden handling this very fragile situation?
00:07:00.400 The guy can't stand up straight.
00:07:01.520 The guy doesn't know what his name is.
00:07:03.420 The guy doesn't know what a threat means.
00:07:05.000 Doesn't seem like a very good idea.
00:07:06.440 It doesn't seem like a recipe for success.
00:07:08.280 Speaking of U.S. foreign involvement,
00:07:09.960 we mentioned yesterday that Democrat Congress lady Rashida Tlaib 1.00
00:07:13.580 has a number of flags outside of her office.
00:07:18.100 None of them are the American flag because she obviously hates America,
00:07:21.480 but she has the Palestinian flag.
00:07:23.780 Then she has the flag of Michigan.
00:07:25.060 That's good.
00:07:25.620 Flag of the city of Detroit.
00:07:26.740 Okay.
00:07:27.080 And then she has the gay flag, 0.96
00:07:28.360 but she doesn't have an American flag anywhere to be seen.
00:07:30.860 And some people have taken issue with Rashida Tlaib having this Palestinian flag in particular.
00:07:36.260 I'm not so hot on the rainbow flag either,
00:07:38.540 but the Palestinian flag has drawn a lot of ire.
00:07:41.480 And Steny Hoyer, very powerful Democrat congressman, is defending Tlaib.
00:07:47.180 Should your colleague Rashida Tlaib still have the Palestinian flag outside of her office?
00:07:51.660 I don't know what she's Palestinian.
00:07:55.180 You know, that doesn't mean she's a terrorist.
00:07:57.260 It doesn't mean that she condones this, Rashida.
00:08:01.040 I have a, I have a, I fly a Danish flag at my house.
00:08:06.260 Um, it doesn't mean what?
00:08:10.080 You fly a Danish flag at your house.
00:08:11.720 Okay.
00:08:11.860 Do you fly one at your government office?
00:08:13.700 No, you don't, obviously.
00:08:16.280 And furthermore, I want to give Steny Hoyer a little bit of credit here.
00:08:21.020 I'll even give Rashida Tlaib a little bit of grace.
00:08:23.980 It is true that flying the Palestine flag does not necessarily connote support for terrorism.
00:08:30.540 It very often does.
00:08:33.300 When BLM, a couple days ago, was posting the Palestine flag next to pictures of paragliders and saying,
00:08:40.340 we stand with Palestine, I think they were pretty clearly supporting terrorism, 1.00
00:08:45.440 the terrorists who paraglided in and slaughtered civilians.
00:08:49.000 But you're right.
00:08:49.660 It doesn't necessarily connote support for terrorism.
00:08:53.560 The more fundamental issue here is not that Rashida Tlaib's flag is Palestinian.
00:09:00.820 The more fundamental issue is no American politician should be flying foreign flags in their government office.
00:09:09.340 That's very wrong.
00:09:10.740 I don't care what the flag is.
00:09:13.640 I don't care if it's a Palestine flag. 0.75
00:09:15.520 I don't care if it's an Israel flag, for that matter.
00:09:17.660 I don't care if it's a Danish flag, like Steny Hoyer is talking about.
00:09:20.420 I don't care if it's a Ukraine flag.
00:09:21.820 I don't care if it's an Italian flag.
00:09:23.800 It is very odd for U.S. politicians to be flying foreign flags,
00:09:30.640 the flags of foreign governments and nations and would-be nations,
00:09:34.660 in their non-diplomatic American government offices.
00:09:38.960 When did we start tolerating that?
00:09:41.300 Steny Hoyer says, well, she's Palestinian.
00:09:42.880 Oh, she's Palestinian? 1.00
00:09:43.720 I guess she's not American then. 0.75
00:09:44.880 So why is she an American representative? 1.00
00:09:48.260 Well, no, she's American. 1.00
00:09:49.700 Oh, she's American? 0.94
00:09:50.560 Then lose the foreign flag, lady. 0.99
00:09:52.680 But you've got to pick one.
00:09:54.300 What a joke of a country we have become.
00:09:58.560 That we now can't even insist on our own national flag.
00:10:04.300 In the case of Rashida Tlaib, she's not even flying the Palestine flag next to the American flag.
00:10:08.260 The only flag that's missing is the American flag.
00:10:10.260 What a complete joke.
00:10:12.440 What a farce.
00:10:14.220 It's a national scandal.
00:10:15.440 And that woman, that woman should not remain in Congress so long as her allegiance is to a foreign government, 0.95
00:10:22.700 a foreign would-be nation, over our own, expressed very clearly in the symbolism outside of her office.
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00:12:08.340 Speaking of priorities, turning to domestic affairs,
00:12:11.320 California has just established a new program,
00:12:14.680 and the program is called Ebony Alerts.
00:12:16.740 And the purpose of Ebony Alerts is to warn people about black children, 1.00
00:12:23.520 actually more than black children, who have gone missing.
00:12:26.620 Now, you might say, well, that's kind of a weird program.
00:12:28.640 Why would they have Ebony Alerts when we already have Amber Alerts?
00:12:31.980 Amber Alerts are designed to alert people to any child who has gone missing,
00:12:36.440 any child of any race.
00:12:37.760 You get an alert on your phone.
00:12:38.900 We've all gotten them.
00:12:40.420 And then you look out and try to match the car, match the description,
00:12:43.860 and a lot of children are found this way.
00:12:46.520 California, though, has established Ebony Alerts to prioritize searches for missing black children.
00:12:54.500 So if a white child and a black child go missing in California,
00:12:57.940 they're going to say, forget about the white child, the black child.
00:13:00.020 That's the one you got to find first.
00:13:01.220 The black child is much, much more important than the white child. 0.91
00:13:03.520 But it's even crazier than that because the Ebony Alerts don't only warn you of searches for missing children.
00:13:12.940 It's also for young adults, not even all that young adults.
00:13:16.760 So for an Amber Alert, the child has to be under 17, usually.
00:13:21.540 There are a few different variations of it, but it's basically for children who are under 17.
00:13:25.180 For the Ebony Alert, it's to alert people to missing black persons age 12 to 25.
00:13:33.700 So in California now, if a white five-year-old goes missing and a black 25-year-old doesn't show up,
00:13:46.280 his parents don't know where he is,
00:13:48.780 the black 25-year-old, according to the premise of the Ebony Alert,
00:13:52.240 will be prioritized over the white five-year-old.
00:13:56.600 Does that make a lot of sense to you?
00:14:00.540 If a white child and a black adult go missing, the black adult gets law enforcement priority. 0.60
00:14:07.660 Don't forget, I know it's a little confusing,
00:14:09.940 Amber Alerts aren't only for white people.
00:14:12.120 Amber Alerts are for everybody, but that wasn't good enough for the libs.
00:14:15.880 They say, no, no, we need to make sure that we deprioritize white children who go missing.
00:14:21.260 We need to make sure that we give special priority to black children.
00:14:24.840 Really, really ugly stuff.
00:14:28.000 But there's nothing surprising about it.
00:14:31.120 We live at a time when white people, and to a lesser degree Asian people, 0.99
00:14:37.040 are discriminated against legally.
00:14:39.460 In practice, they are discriminated against.
00:14:42.180 There is de facto racial discrimination against whites,
00:14:44.420 but there is also de jure discrimination against whites through affirmative action,
00:14:50.040 which was just recently weakened by the Supreme Court.
00:14:52.760 But then all the institutions that practice affirmative action just came out and said,
00:14:56.360 oh, well, we'll keep doing it.
00:14:57.100 We'll just hide it.
00:14:58.780 We'll hide the racial discrimination in the personal statement or somewhere else.
00:15:03.220 So that exists.
00:15:04.120 And what's so ironic about it is that at the same time,
00:15:09.580 we are told that there is de facto and even de jure discrimination against black people.
00:15:15.220 That's the premise of Black Lives Matter.
00:15:16.800 That's the premise of all of this leftist activism,
00:15:20.000 that innocent black people are being hunted down.
00:15:22.400 The LA Times published a couple days ago, black people are fleeing America.
00:15:26.120 That's obviously not true.
00:15:27.140 Three million black people have immigrated into the United States over roughly the last 20 years.
00:15:31.620 It's completely the opposite of the truth.
00:15:35.140 But that's what we come to expect.
00:15:36.320 When you hear a story from the establishment news media or from entertainment or from academia,
00:15:42.620 you can be pretty confident that not only is what they are telling you not true,
00:15:48.100 but the opposite is true.
00:15:49.820 Just go check out the ebony alert laws. 0.99
00:15:53.860 California going to hell in a handbasket.
00:15:55.620 That's been happening for a long time.
00:15:57.100 Even the former governor of California is admitting this now.
00:15:59.660 So the governator, Arnold, is saying that the new Democrat campaign line
00:16:05.980 is that they want to F up every city in America.
00:16:08.260 Here he is on Rob Lowe's podcast.
00:16:10.540 Okay, let me ask you this.
00:16:11.580 And I ask people this all the time.
00:16:13.060 David Dreyer, a good friend of ours.
00:16:14.900 Of ours, yeah.
00:16:15.540 Yes.
00:16:16.260 And a good man.
00:16:17.820 Served for many, many, many years.
00:16:19.580 He used to have the greatest what makes me a Republican.
00:16:23.300 And he had, I think, four or five things.
00:16:25.400 I think it was, in no particular, strong military, low taxes, less government, more personal freedoms.
00:16:34.120 There might have been one, a couple, but it makes sense to know.
00:16:37.920 Strong law enforcement.
00:16:39.080 Strong law enforcement.
00:16:40.180 And then I'd like to know what the, I always ask Democrats what it means to be a Democrat in that way.
00:16:46.000 And I think whatever anybody would say, what would they say?
00:16:51.820 Ruin your cities.
00:16:53.280 What's that?
00:16:53.920 Ruin your cities.
00:16:54.940 Ruin your cities.
00:16:55.720 That's what the Democrats would say.
00:16:56.980 We are about ruining the cities.
00:16:58.820 We want to f*** up every city in America.
00:17:01.800 That's what they, David, it seems to be the theme right now.
00:17:04.660 Why is that?
00:17:05.420 I have no idea.
00:17:06.800 I have no idea.
00:17:07.720 But that is, and that's it.
00:17:08.760 And he's totally right.
00:17:09.780 That is the implicit campaign slogan of every Democrat.
00:17:12.560 Hey, elect us, and we're going to completely f*** up your city, and everything is going to go to hell, and crime is going to go skyrocketing, and your kids are going to be indoctrinated and abused, and you're not going to trust the security of your property or anything else.
00:17:28.440 We're going to f*** up your cities.
00:17:29.280 That's true.
00:17:30.180 And this is a fine attack.
00:17:32.760 Republicans can use this.
00:17:34.780 But it's not going to be the best attack, I think, on Democrats.
00:17:37.920 And the reason for that is Republicans don't win in cities.
00:17:42.720 We had one major city in the United States, Jacksonville, and we lost that, right?
00:17:46.920 They have a Democrat mayor now.
00:17:48.660 Republicans don't win in cities.
00:17:50.520 We don't even really live in cities.
00:17:54.100 I have lived in cities.
00:17:56.420 I've lived in New York.
00:17:57.600 I've lived in L.A.
00:17:58.500 I live in Nashville, which is a smaller city, but it's growing.
00:18:02.760 I do.
00:18:04.180 There are some.
00:18:04.860 I'm not saying there are none.
00:18:05.660 But that's not where we win.
00:18:07.920 And a lot of Republicans who live in suburban and rural areas actually kind of get a kick out of it, I think, at some level when the cities go up to hell in a handbasket because it confirms their beliefs about Democrat policies and about the nature of the cities.
00:18:25.620 So I don't think that's going to be the best attack.
00:18:28.760 It's a fine line.
00:18:30.140 It's a fine observation.
00:18:31.100 But I think the better attack is going to be on something like parental rights.
00:18:34.180 I think that is probably the best line of attack that Republicans have right now.
00:18:38.600 It's what got Glenn Youngkin elected in Virginia.
00:18:41.380 It's what made Ron DeSantis.
00:18:43.160 It's in part what made Ron DeSantis very popular in Florida.
00:18:46.100 It works anywhere.
00:18:47.640 It works in blue counties.
00:18:49.320 It works in red counties.
00:18:51.180 It works in the country.
00:18:52.500 And it works in the cities.
00:18:54.960 Yeah, they want to F up your cities, those Democrats.
00:18:58.320 They also want to F up your kids.
00:19:01.480 We're seeing that right now.
00:19:02.920 We're even seeing them admit it.
00:19:04.220 You remember when Drag Queen Story Hour came around.
00:19:06.680 Am I allowed to talk about this on social media?
00:19:08.280 Well, we'll see.
00:19:08.820 We'll see if the bars of doom show up.
00:19:12.360 When Drag Queen Story Hour came around, we were told that it was just about reading stories to kids in funny costumes.
00:19:19.620 You even had pretend conservatives who are now mostly liberals.
00:19:22.600 I'm thinking of like a guy like David French who came out and he said, Drag Queen Story Hour, it's a blessing of liberty.
00:19:28.740 It's, oh, boy, James Madison just loved Drag Queen Story Hour.
00:19:32.680 And people defended this.
00:19:34.240 It's just a silly, fun little thing.
00:19:35.860 Well, now some of the Drag Queen Story Hour types are explaining what this is really about.
00:19:41.280 This is from a liberal news source.
00:19:42.660 This is from In the Know by Yahoo promoting the Drag Queen Story Hour events.
00:19:47.600 Here's what one of the drag queens has to say. 1.00
00:19:49.520 Does anyone know what a drag queen is? 1.00
00:19:52.600 No?
00:19:53.380 Do you know what a drag queen is? 1.00
00:19:55.780 But they warm up.
00:19:56.900 They get to know who I am.
00:19:58.560 A drag queen is a character you create to express your feminine side or any other side of yourself that you'd like to explore. 0.99
00:20:05.760 I would like to be a superhero.
00:20:08.080 Yeah.
00:20:08.640 You could be a drag queen superhero. 0.99
00:20:10.780 Yeah.
00:20:11.420 Yeah.
00:20:12.240 Yeah.
00:20:13.100 That's what it's.
00:20:13.680 Hold on.
00:20:14.140 You're not reading Humpty Dumpty over there.
00:20:16.260 This isn't make way for ducklings.
00:20:17.840 This is sexual indoctrination of children, of very little children.
00:20:21.120 On camera, being promoted by the liberal media as a good thing, being promoted by the drag queen as a good thing. 0.99
00:20:29.220 This is always what it was about.
00:20:31.140 Obviously.
00:20:32.040 Obviously, the point of bringing some weirdo sexual pervert guy into a classroom or into a library with little kids in costume was always about sexual indoctrination.
00:20:44.140 Even liberal parents, somewhat normal liberal parents, even people in cities, even everybody knows that this is wrong.
00:20:56.860 Everybody knows that this is wrong.
00:20:58.300 That's a much better line of attack than a lot of what Republicans are working with.
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00:22:16.600 It's that time of the week again.
00:22:18.160 This week's episode of Convicting a Murderer introduces an unlikely truth seeker.
00:22:21.880 A cadaver dog named Loof might just uncover the hidden secrets found on Avery's property.
00:22:27.140 Last I checked, dogs don't carry hidden agendas or ulterior motives like perhaps a documentary filmmaker.
00:22:34.820 But as you might expect, this loyal and honest good little boy was not featured in the other docu-series because he discovers powerful and incriminating evidence against Stephen Avery.
00:22:44.980 Take a look.
00:22:46.460 Coming up on Convicting a Murderer.
00:22:48.540 Brendan Dassey had confessed to burning Teresa Hallback's clothing, but you don't see anything about her clothing or the jean rivets in Making a Murderer.
00:22:57.820 He told me to go throw it on the fire.
00:23:00.280 Throw what on the fire?
00:23:01.560 The clothes.
00:23:02.460 And it's not the only detail that they left out.
00:23:04.680 Other items were found in the burn area.
00:23:07.800 One of them was Teresa's tooth.
00:23:09.960 Her ashes, her bone fragments were found in his backyard.
00:23:13.100 And what do you do once she's on the fire?
00:23:15.300 We threw some tires on top of her and some branches. 1.00
00:23:18.360 Also left out are the tools that were found around the pit.
00:23:22.160 There was a shovel.
00:23:23.340 There was a rake.
00:23:24.460 We, like, try to take the shovel and try to break the bones apart.
00:23:27.800 You know why you don't know about that one?
00:23:28.920 Because there's dog tracks.
00:23:29.880 Because I didn't want you to know that.
00:23:30.600 Yeah, because they were showing us dog tracks.
00:23:32.840 Life in prison he's going to get.
00:23:34.540 And he's only 16.
00:23:35.920 And what am I supposed to do?
00:23:37.080 I told you all along, keep your f***ing mouth shut.
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00:24:06.460 Speaking of psychos,
00:24:07.840 The New York Times has just edited its description of the Hamas terrorists.
00:24:16.580 So the New York Times initially reported,
00:24:20.820 Hamas leaves trail of terror in Israel.
00:24:23.560 As Israeli soldiers regained control of areas near Gaza that came under attack,
00:24:26.800 they're finding evidence seen in videos and photos and confirmed by witness accounts
00:24:30.400 of the massacre of civilians by Hamas terrorists.
00:24:32.920 Okay, yeah, basically that makes sense.
00:24:34.400 Then they changed it because The New York Times appeals to a left-wing audience
00:24:40.260 and a lot of left-wingers don't like the state of Israel.
00:24:45.180 So they changed it to,
00:24:46.720 As Israeli soldiers regained control of the areas near Gaza, blah, blah, blah.
00:24:49.920 Confirmed by witness accounts of the massacre of civilians by Hamas gunmen.
00:24:55.160 It's gunmen.
00:24:55.880 It's not, they're not necessarily terrorists.
00:24:57.360 They're gunmen.
00:25:00.740 Apparently, they changed their mind over at The New York Times that Hamas is engaged in terrorism.
00:25:05.000 Well, how can we know?
00:25:05.780 One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
00:25:07.720 You ever hear that stupid phrase?
00:25:09.720 Terrorism has a meaning. 0.84
00:25:11.680 We argue over these words.
00:25:14.020 Well, you know, man, what does it really mean to be a terrorist or in a war?
00:25:18.540 The meaning of terrorism is when you intentionally attack civilians to achieve political ends.
00:25:25.020 That's what it's about.
00:25:27.180 Hamas, though they did kill some Israeli soldiers, attacked civilians.
00:25:32.880 The intention of the attack was to kill civilians.
00:25:37.500 They didn't warn the civilians to get out of the rave.
00:25:40.540 They didn't warn civilians on the kibbutz to go run out of there.
00:25:44.600 They intentionally attacked civilians to achieve political ends.
00:25:47.320 When you attack ordinary civilian workers at the World Trade Center, that would be an act of terrorism.
00:25:54.240 If you were to attack uniformed soldiers, that's less clearly an act of terrorism.
00:25:59.420 If you yourself are a uniformed soldier of a legitimate authority, attacking another uniformed soldier of another legitimate authority, that's not terrorism.
00:26:07.520 That's an act of war.
00:26:09.960 There are different types of fighting, different types of killing, different types of murder.
00:26:14.580 What Hamas did in Israel is not the act of a gunman with unclear motives.
00:26:21.360 That's obviously an act of terrorism.
00:26:23.720 There's a lot of confusion these days on the ethics of war.
00:26:26.300 Our friend Anna Navarro, the fake Republican who really, truly is just a liberal over at The View.
00:26:31.780 She doesn't even really pretend to be a Republican anymore.
00:26:33.900 They hired that flunky from the Trump administration to be the pretend Republican, Alyssa Farah. 1.00
00:26:39.100 But Anna Navarro, representing a somewhat more center-left liberal view here, is insisting that we cannot expect the Israeli government to have any restraint in retaliating on Hamas.
00:26:52.620 On the Biden thing, you know, the speech, there was a lot of things he said which were very important.
00:26:58.620 There was also something he didn't say which was very important.
00:27:01.700 There's been many attacks on Israel before.
00:27:04.220 There's been many issues in that region before.
00:27:06.780 And always the response from around the world has been to Israel, have restraint.
00:27:11.800 Yesterday, nobody was telling Israel to have restraint because you cannot call on Israel to have restraint when 1,200 at least of their citizens have been slaughtered in the savage, inhumane, cruel, medieval way that they have been killed.
00:27:27.740 And so, look, we're about to see much more carnage.
00:27:30.380 It's going to get incredibly painful.
00:27:32.260 The only people that are to blame for this is Hamas. 0.77
00:27:35.940 Hamas is going to be the ones culpable for what's going to happen in Gaza. 0.92
00:27:40.080 They are holding Gaza hostage.
00:27:44.180 As usual, what Anna Navarro is saying is not true.
00:27:47.140 I love how she slips in there.
00:27:48.580 What these people did, these awful terrorists, was medieval.
00:27:53.660 Lady, the modern liberal age is much bloodier and much crueler and much less coherent than what happened in the Middle Ages.
00:28:02.100 I promise you that.
00:28:03.060 This is complete revisionist history by liberal moderns to make ourselves feel so enlightened and so brilliant and so wonderful.
00:28:11.620 We say that, oh, and back in those awful dark ages, that everyone was cruel and incoherent and basically an animal.
00:28:20.620 We are behaving much more like animals.
00:28:22.940 We are behaving in a much less moral, much more incoherent way than political society did in the Middle Ages.
00:28:29.560 That's a side note.
00:28:30.400 What about Anna Navarro's main claim?
00:28:32.980 She says that Israel cannot be expected to show restraint.
00:28:37.180 That is not true.
00:28:39.020 That is not true.
00:28:40.700 In war, at all times, under all circumstances, there are certain moral and ethical demands that are to be made if a war is to be just.
00:28:52.120 I'm not saying that Israel has acted in an unjust way.
00:28:56.200 Far from it.
00:28:56.780 I think Israel generally conducts war in a very just way, much more so than Israel's enemies for the modern state of Israel. 0.70
00:29:04.640 But there are rules.
00:29:08.120 There is a concept of just war.
00:29:11.060 St. Thomas Aquinas outlined what just war is pretty clearly.
00:29:14.960 Just war has to be waged by a legitimate authority.
00:29:19.860 Just war has to have a just cause. 0.70
00:29:23.600 And just war has to have the right intentions. 1.00
00:29:26.640 And a lot of people will, who are skeptical or moral relativists today, will say, well, what does any of that mean?
00:29:34.700 What really is a just authority?
00:29:36.320 Well, what really is justice at all?
00:29:38.120 Well, what really is the right intention?
00:29:39.540 Okay.
00:29:39.920 All right.
00:29:41.040 Put down the bong, freshman in college. 0.99
00:29:43.720 You know, let's talk serious.
00:29:45.060 If we're going to talk about moral matters, if we're going to talk about right and wrong, then let's speak seriously about it and not in this very silly and sophomoric way.
00:29:52.360 Those are the rules.
00:29:54.640 Sovereign authority, just cause, right intentions.
00:29:58.540 And there are qualifying conditions as well.
00:30:01.780 A just war, a war cannot be said to be just if the belligerent intends intrinsically evil actions.
00:30:10.400 That would not count as a just war.
00:30:12.680 However, the good action will have, or at least the morally neutral action will have two effects.
00:30:20.380 A good intended and an evil not intended but tolerated.
00:30:24.940 So the evil that accompanies war has to be merely tolerated rather than intended.
00:30:29.780 And this is a key, and this is a word that's going to crop up as we talk about what happens now in the Middle East.
00:30:36.860 Proportionality.
00:30:37.340 The good to be achieved has to outweigh the evils of war, which does not mean that war should be undertaken in a purely utilitarian kind of calculation.
00:30:46.540 All of those other moral demands also have to be met, and proportionality has to be met.
00:30:51.560 But proportionality is misunderstood.
00:30:53.620 Proportionality does not just mean that, you know, if they kill ten of your guys, you've got to only kill ten of their guys.
00:30:58.800 That's not proportionality.
00:31:00.000 Michael Brendan Doherty over at National Review has a good article on this.
00:31:06.220 He writes,
00:31:07.400 The proportion in just war theory is not in relation to the injury you received but to the just goals you hope to secure.
00:31:14.280 That is, proportionality in just war theory licenses the amount of violence necessary to achieve a just goal.
00:31:21.780 Once again, I don't want to be misinterpreted here.
00:31:24.420 I think the state of Israel generally does a very good job on this front.
00:31:30.380 They warn civilians when they're about to bomb places.
00:31:32.700 They tell the civilians where to go.
00:31:34.200 They message people.
00:31:35.380 I think Israel is generally pretty good here.
00:31:39.120 But the people from the peanut gallery now who are saying things like, we need to just totally glass Gaza, or we need to have indiscriminate war, or we need to just start randomly bombing mullahs or other countries, they are not articulating a moral or just view of war.
00:31:56.720 They are articulating an extremely immoral view that is extremely dangerous.
00:32:01.580 Not very good at all.
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00:33:14.840 This was the absolute perfect timing to shift over now to our guest for the show, Senator Rand Paul, who is one of the few people in public life who tends to call for restraint when it comes to questions of war.
00:33:29.980 He's probably better known for that than any of his Senate colleagues.
00:33:33.060 Senator Paul has a new book out on a totally different topic that is also very important and screwed up our world for three years, and a lot of people were deceived over.
00:33:42.800 And he was probably the leading senator, probably the leading U.S. politician calling it out and warning about it.
00:33:49.760 That would be the COVID cover-up.
00:33:51.660 This is Deception, the great COVID cover-up by Senator Rand Paul.
00:33:54.740 I want to get to COVID and what happens next with COVID in just a moment.
00:34:00.000 First, I do want to open up with some of these foreign policy questions.
00:34:02.680 Senator Paul, thank you for coming on the show.
00:34:05.680 Good morning, Michael.
00:34:06.460 Thanks for having me.
00:34:07.680 So, Senator, we opened the show today with your colleague, Lindsey Graham, calling for us to bomb Iran, I think because it's a day that ends in Y.
00:34:17.320 Senator Graham decided to call to bomb Iran.
00:34:20.240 Is this likely?
00:34:22.000 Is this advisable?
00:34:23.560 Paul, what happens now?
00:34:26.020 You know, I think you do have to ask what happens next if you were to do something.
00:34:29.620 What happens if you drop a bomb on Tehran?
00:34:32.100 Currently, if you look at the public of Iran, the people of Iran, they're very restless towards the regime, restless towards Khomeini, and actually many of them pro-American.
00:34:41.920 I think the first bomb that drops on Tehran, though, the nationalism of the Iranian people, those that are upset with Khomeini, also become upset with the United States as well for an attack.
00:34:52.880 Lindsey Graham said on television, either this morning or yesterday, that even if there is no direct evidence, we should still bomb them.
00:34:59.040 I think that's rash, unwise, and also discounts what our Constitution calls for.
00:35:05.200 Our Constitution calls for debate, and it calls for the people through their representatives to decide war.
00:35:10.080 I have many friends whose sons and daughters are in the military, 20, 22, 25 years old, and they're going to be marched off, and they're going to put their lives at risk for the rest of us.
00:35:21.140 It's our obligation to have a full-throated debate on going to war anywhere, for anyone, even our best of allies.
00:35:28.240 We have to have a debate, and there has to be a vote in Congress.
00:35:31.180 And believe it or not, people think, oh, Congress is so feckless, we should just let the president do this.
00:35:35.400 Congress will never, you know, get it right.
00:35:38.040 But after 9-11, the vote was nearly unanimous.
00:35:40.140 My father, who's about as anti-war as you can get, voted for the 9-11 authorization for force to go in to get those who attacked us on 9-11.
00:35:48.700 When we were attacked at Pearl Harbor, the vote, once again, nearly unanimous.
00:35:52.660 But we also have to remember that after 9-11, many people said Iraq did it.
00:35:56.520 Everybody's like, Iraq did it. 1.00
00:35:57.440 We've got to go after Iraq. 1.00
00:35:58.460 And I can remember the bombs being unleashed on Iraq, and they had so convinced our soldiers that they were handwriting on the bombs, this is payback for 9-11. 0.94
00:36:06.720 And it turns out they had nothing to do with 9-11.
00:36:08.860 It doesn't mean they were a great regime or Saddam Hussein was a Nobel Peace Prize winner, but it meant they had nothing to do.
00:36:15.720 In some ways, we took our eye off of the people who did attack us on 9-11.
00:36:19.920 So I think the first thing is first.
00:36:22.040 The first thing is if there are Americans held hostage and our allies, Israelis, have held hostage, that's the first priority is trying to free the hostages.
00:36:30.060 And I think the second is trying to make sure Hamas can't do this again and that they're incapacitated.
00:36:36.480 And that will require a military incapacitation.
00:36:39.300 But that will be primarily from Israel.
00:36:41.100 You know, they attacked Israel, and Israel will respond. 0.90
00:36:43.280 And as much as I don't want war, I'm also not one who will be mouthing off saying Israel shouldn't do anything.
00:36:49.620 I'm going to be saying Israel should do what they need to do, and only they can know best. 0.99
00:36:54.240 But I think those who believe and want to talk about the political situation of Gaza or the West Bank, they lose all credibility.
00:37:01.240 Who's going to listen to you if you're killing women and children?
00:37:03.380 If you're going to a concert in the desert and mowing down unarmed people, who wants to listen to your argument?
00:37:10.080 So those people, I think, if anything, have unified people in support of Israel for the most part.
00:37:15.520 And those who aren't at this point, you know, the groups at Harvard or the other Middle Eastern countries around there that still blame Israel on this, I think they lose all credibility.
00:37:25.100 Before we get to China and COVID, I want to make one last foreign stop up at the other potential source of the Third World War, which is Ukraine. 0.89
00:37:35.420 You're one of the few people in Washington who very early on has urged caution in our role in Ukraine.
00:37:42.540 How does the attack in Israel change the war aims in Ukraine, the situation on the ground, the threat of a broader global war?
00:37:52.960 Are we going to keep funding the war in Ukraine?
00:37:56.040 Is there an off ramp or is this just going to go on forever?
00:37:59.500 We have no rainy day fund.
00:38:01.320 We have no surplus.
00:38:02.420 We have no money to give anyone, frankly.
00:38:04.160 We have to borrow any money we give to foreign countries.
00:38:07.420 We essentially bought from China to send it elsewhere.
00:38:10.460 But they know there's rising discussion and dissension in the Republican ranks about more and more and more money for Ukraine.
00:38:18.120 So what they're going to do and what I understand the plan will be is this week they will link Israel's aid, which will be much more popular, to Ukraine.
00:38:26.100 But then I've also heard they're going to put in money for Taiwan as well.
00:38:29.400 So it's like just, Katie, bar the door.
00:38:31.360 We're just going to open the floodgates of money the same way Democrats believe in flooding the domestic economy with borrowed money.
00:38:37.400 Now we're going to flood the foreign economies with printed money.
00:38:41.120 And it isn't rational or wise.
00:38:43.920 And what I've asked for each time when you do it, if you think this is in our national interest, which I frankly don't think Ukraine is, but if you think it is, let's offset it. 0.99
00:38:52.060 Let's cut spending somewhere else.
00:38:53.580 There's like $25 billion worth of semiconductor refundable credits.
00:39:00.100 It's basically welfare to billion-dollar companies in our country.
00:39:03.460 You know, billion-dollar, trillion-dollar chip manufacturers are getting taxpayer money.
00:39:09.040 Refundable tax credit is essentially welfare.
00:39:11.880 There's all the new money for the IRS.
00:39:13.620 There's $44 billion we could take from the IRS.
00:39:16.440 There's $1.7 billion that is going to the Taliban.
00:39:20.120 It's an Afghan reconstruction fund.
00:39:22.340 And they say they're only sending it for humanitarian purposes.
00:39:25.740 But we believe the Taliban is getting their hands on that money.
00:39:28.980 And so in one sense, we'll be saying we're fighting Hamas and radical Islam over here while funding it on the other side. 0.98
00:39:35.500 So I'm a stickler for this, even for Israel. 1.00
00:39:37.820 I'm supportive of Israel.
00:39:39.040 I've been supportive of the Iron Dome.
00:39:40.860 But I usually ask that it be paid for them.
00:39:43.160 People also have to realize the motions run high.
00:39:45.820 But Israel's not short of money.
00:39:47.320 Israel's a very wealthy country.
00:39:48.660 They're the most heavily militarily stocked country in the world, probably, other than the U.S.
00:39:53.460 And we give them $3.2 billion a year on an annual basis for the last 30 years.
00:39:58.320 They've got plenty of money and plenty of arms.
00:40:00.760 In addition, last year in December, the omnibus added an additional billion for Iron Dome.
00:40:06.720 I don't think anybody's saying they're out of weapons.
00:40:08.740 And if they were, I'm perfectly willing to debate it.
00:40:10.940 But I would still ask that we take it from someplace else where we're wasting it.
00:40:14.860 The government is full of waste.
00:40:16.780 But instead of that, if you tell a Democrat this, they will respond and they will say, hmm, we shouldn't have to decide.
00:40:23.220 Everybody should get what they want.
00:40:24.680 We shouldn't have to make these choices.
00:40:26.000 And it's like, that's what legislatures are supposed to do.
00:40:29.060 Make a choice.
00:40:30.020 This is important.
00:40:30.920 This has to be less important.
00:40:32.140 And we set priorities.
00:40:33.640 But that's a real problem we have is we don't do that.
00:40:35.460 We just give everybody everything in Washington.
00:40:37.980 Including China and including that lab in Wuhan.
00:40:40.740 I mean, I suppose this is the subject of your book that's come out.
00:40:44.880 And early on, when you called out Fauci and you called out NIH and you raised these questions, you were called a conspiracy theorist.
00:40:52.840 And the rest of us who were not in the U.S. Senate were called conspiracy theorists.
00:40:56.820 And then it would seem that we all turned out to be completely right.
00:41:00.380 And there's been no accountability for it at all.
00:41:02.760 Well, and add on to that, at least before this outbreak of war in the Middle East, we saw the COVID restrictions creeping up again, implausibly.
00:41:12.860 We hadn't seen this in something like two and a half years.
00:41:14.840 And then again, Lionsgate and Hollywood adds the mask restrictions.
00:41:18.920 Morris Brown College down in Atlanta.
00:41:20.960 Rutgers University up in Jersey.
00:41:23.600 New York City saying when you're in public, wear the mask, social distance, like it was deja vu all over again.
00:41:29.480 Are we headed back for more COVID?
00:41:31.100 The amazing thing in the book is that we prove that everything that Fauci lied about is disprovable or proved to be a lie in his own words now.
00:41:41.380 We now have emails revealed from 2020 where he's saying he knew they were doing gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
00:41:47.340 And he knew that the research was dangerous.
00:41:49.300 And he knew that the virus appeared to be manipulated.
00:41:52.380 He said the opposite in public.
00:41:53.700 He called everyone a conspiracy theorist.
00:41:55.540 He said it was a fringe theory.
00:41:56.580 We now have one of his chief lieutenants, this Christian Anderson, who was all in, saying it came from the lab, saying it was gain-of-function research.
00:42:06.800 Three days later, he flips and says, oh, no, you're crazy if you think that.
00:42:10.980 But in private emails, he's saying it's not a fringe theory.
00:42:14.100 It's not a conspiracy theory.
00:42:15.580 It's the most likely and logical answer is that this virus came from the lab.
00:42:21.220 But it's worse than that.
00:42:23.680 In the book, we reveal that there was a pause on funding for this dangerous research and that it was evaded by one man, by Anthony Fauci, who gave them permission to go around the rules.
00:42:34.560 And then when they set in place a safety committee that said, if you're doing dangerous gain-of-function, if you're mixing viruses together to make them more infectious or more lethal, that you have to go before this committee.
00:42:45.020 Guess what?
00:42:46.700 The Wuhan research, all of them, tens of millions of dollars that went to Wuhan, none of it ever went before the safety committee.
00:42:53.740 So we discovered in looking at these emails, one of the emails is from January 31st, 2020, and it's at 3 in the morning.
00:43:01.140 So Fauci at 1030 at night gets started, and it's a series of emails that runs through 3 in the morning.
00:43:06.800 You get this harried sense.
00:43:08.660 You get this sense of fear building, and you get the sense that he can't sleep.
00:43:12.160 And the last email at 3 in the morning is to the guy that runs the safety committee that's supposed to review this.
00:43:19.000 He's knowing in his mind, or someone has told him, this research never went before the committee.
00:43:23.420 In fact, we have the email where his assistant tells Fauci, you know what?
00:43:26.740 We don't know how this could have happened because it never went before the safety committee.
00:43:30.640 Fauci knows.
00:43:31.720 He gave an end to run around the safety committee.
00:43:33.960 So it wasn't just the bad decision to fund gain-of-function research in a totalitarian country.
00:43:38.580 It was actually the decision then to cover it up because he knew he would have responsibility.
00:43:43.480 So they spent months and months, and a year later, face-to-face in committee, he's denying.
00:43:48.700 He's denying to my face.
00:43:50.380 Under oath, he's saying, we didn't fund any gain-of-function.
00:43:54.060 We have never funded any gain-of-function research in Wuhan.
00:43:57.340 So he lied to Congress, a felony, and he's gotten away with it so far.
00:44:01.380 So the consequences that Fauci has faced, by my last count, are a nice, plushy sinecure
00:44:08.260 at Georgetown University, and his retirement from NIH, and his millions of dollars from
00:44:13.540 speeches and books over the years, and other sorts of ways of making money.
00:44:17.360 He also got a million dollars from a foundation.
00:44:20.640 A foundation gave him a million dollars prize for being such a great person.
00:44:24.180 And he took that while being a bureaucrat.
00:44:26.180 But you know what?
00:44:26.960 He's not even gone yet.
00:44:28.240 He says he's not working for the government.
00:44:29.840 He said he retired, but we cannot get the information.
00:44:33.460 They will not reveal.
00:44:34.300 But we do know that he still has a limousine and 24-hour surveillance team that is helping
00:44:39.840 him, a security team.
00:44:41.320 And we think he does go into his office, and we do think that he's still being paid.
00:44:45.600 And our question is, if he's indicted, is the federal government going to be forced
00:44:49.440 to defend him as well, because he's still an employee?
00:44:52.080 So there's a lot going on here that doesn't meet the eye, but we've got nothing but resistance.
00:44:56.220 We send letter after letter to HHS and to NIH.
00:45:00.160 Is he still on the payroll?
00:45:01.380 They refuse to answer.
00:45:02.920 We know he's getting the limo because we've gone around them to find the information.
00:45:06.640 But he has a limo every day pick him up to take him to probably a million dollar job
00:45:11.080 at Georgetown.
00:45:12.260 So it's just insane.
00:45:14.240 And the left-wing media has continued to cover up for him.
00:45:17.100 Is there any chance?
00:45:18.020 I hate to make you put on your prognosticator crystal ball hat now.
00:45:22.060 But is there any chance that he will be held to account, or is he just protected by the
00:45:25.660 government?
00:45:26.980 You know, legally, maybe not.
00:45:29.040 You know, I've referred him twice to the Department of Justice.
00:45:31.340 Merrick Garland's not exactly the most objective of prosecutors.
00:45:36.280 And it really is a double standard in our country now.
00:45:38.720 If you're a Republican, you have to be worried about being prosecuted.
00:45:41.080 But he has no fear of being prosecuted.
00:45:42.780 They never will.
00:45:43.820 But as far as accountability, yes.
00:45:45.740 When this started out in 2020, he was like a god on Olympus, and nobody touched him.
00:45:50.360 And he was Teflon, and he was in Vogue magazine, and he was modeling and having his portrait
00:45:56.320 painted and gazing at his portrait in his office, saying, I am science, and if you criticize
00:46:01.760 me, you're criticizing science.
00:46:03.600 All this ridiculous stuff.
00:46:05.000 But you know what?
00:46:05.420 The pendulum has swung quite a bit.
00:46:07.620 He bamboozled most of the scientific community, but a lot of them got mad when they found out
00:46:12.140 that the letters saying that this was a conspiracy theory were led by Peter Daszak, the guy that
00:46:17.440 was funneling the money, basically the bag man taking the money to Wuhan, is the one who
00:46:21.700 organized this and did not reveal his conflict of interest.
00:46:24.960 Even among scientists of different opinions, there's typically agreement that if you're being
00:46:30.140 paid for by a certain organization or corporation, if you're receiving money, you have to reveal
00:46:35.020 that in your journal article.
00:46:36.660 Like, if this is done by Pfizer, you jolly well better put Pfizer's name in your paper to
00:46:42.020 say it was funded by Pfizer.
00:46:43.100 And this is a real problem, though, because when I challenged Fauci on the vaccine committees,
00:46:48.560 I said, is anybody on the vaccine committees who's receiving royalties from the manufacturers
00:46:53.020 of the vaccine, he wouldn't answer the question and said he didn't have to tell us because
00:46:57.340 the law protected him from having to reveal that.
00:46:59.720 That's not really that comforting that it's not happening when they won't tell us.
00:47:04.240 Right, right.
00:47:05.640 There's a lot more in the book.
00:47:07.300 Everyone should go get it.
00:47:08.160 Deception, the great COVID cover-up by the great Senator Rand Paul.
00:47:12.960 Senator Paul, thank you so much for coming on.
00:47:15.100 Thanks, Michael.
00:47:16.480 Wonderful to see all of you.
00:47:18.580 The rest of the show continues now in the Membrum Segmentum.
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