The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1357 - The Jenna Ellis Guilty Plea Explained In 60 Seconds

00:00:00.000 President Trump's former lawyer, Jenna Ellis, who defended the president during his efforts

00:00:04.580 to expose fraud in the 2020 election, has accepted a plea deal and agreed to cooperate

00:00:10.140 with the government in the ongoing trials against Trump and his associates.

00:00:15.160 As an attorney who is also a Christian, I take my responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously,

00:00:21.440 and I endeavor to be a person of sound moral and ethical character in all of my dealings.

00:00:26.560 In the wake of the 2020 presidential election, I believed that challenging the results on behalf

00:00:33.360 of President Trump should be pursued in a just and legal way.

00:00:37.240 I endeavored to represent my client to the best of my ability.

00:00:40.940 I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than I, to provide

00:00:45.420 me with true and reliable information, especially since my role involved speaking to the media

00:00:50.720 and to legislators in various states.

00:00:52.660 What I did not do, but should have done, Your Honor, was to make sure that the facts

00:00:57.640 the other lawyers alleged to be true were, in fact, true.

00:01:01.020 In the frenetic pace of attempting to raise challenges to the election in several states,

00:01:06.000 including Georgia, I failed to do my due diligence.

00:01:09.400 I believe in and I value election integrity.

00:01:12.200 If I knew then what I know now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these

00:01:16.900 post-election challenges.

00:01:18.400 I look back on this whole experience with deep remorse.

00:01:21.020 This is a very sad scene, not even just for Jenna.

00:01:26.380 Regular viewers and listeners to this show know that Jenna is a friend of mine of quite

00:01:31.260 some years now, and she's appeared many times on this show, including immediately after she

00:01:36.500 was indicted.

00:01:37.920 What is sad is not even that she took some deal or other, that she pled guilty to some

00:01:44.440 minor offense.

00:01:45.220 In this case, just one count of, quote, aiding and abetting false statements, a far cry from

00:01:51.140 the RICO charges that the Georgia DA is preposterously attempting to pin on Trump and his lawyers.

00:01:57.960 What's sad is not even that she will now face probation and pay a fine and write a letter apologizing

00:02:05.540 to the state and potentially testify against the remaining defendants up to and including

00:02:12.200 potentially the former president and current GOP frontrunner.

00:02:16.120 What is really sad is the disgusting regime that we are living under.

00:02:21.800 We have long complained about unjust laws and the two-tiered system of justice and the creeping

00:02:28.940 corruption pervading the whole system, certainly the liberal elite.

00:02:32.320 But we have now reached the stage of Stalin-esque show trials.

00:02:38.240 The political opposition prosecuted on bogus charges and made to cry in front of a courtroom

00:02:46.700 and on the big state-backed media and beg forgiveness for the egregious sin of being a lawyer

00:02:57.360 and representing a client, a client who at the time was the duly elected sitting president of the United States

00:03:04.800 and who now would dare to run against the current occupant of that office.

00:03:10.660 What's really sad about the show trial of my friend Jenna Ellis is not even that this is how this whole

00:03:18.120 sorry spectacle is ending.

00:03:20.020 What's really sad is that Jenna's coerced struggle session is only the beginning.

00:03:25.380 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:03:42.360 Welcome back to the show.

00:03:48.760 A young man has gone viral for criticizing Hillary Clinton to her face and raising questions

00:03:55.260 about Hillary's warmongering.

00:03:57.160 And obviously that man has been placed on suicide watch.

00:03:59.880 So we'll get to that in one second.

00:04:01.240 First, though, a lot has happened over the last 24 hours, especially on Capitol Hill.

00:04:07.140 A lot and absolutely nothing have both somehow simultaneously happened on Capitol Hill.

00:04:17.040 Byron Donalds is a young conservative.

00:04:19.640 You know, he's he's only been in Congress since getting elected in 2020.

00:04:24.780 He's quite right wing, popular with the conservative, more Trump leaning faction of the GOP.

00:04:32.420 He threw his hat back in the ring to run for speaker after Jim Jordan ended his speaker campaign,

00:04:39.760 after Steve Scalise ended his speaker campaign, after Kevin McCarthy was kicked out as speaker

00:04:45.280 by Matt Gaetz and a handful of conservative Republicans and the Democrats.

00:04:50.460 Chip Roy, who's a great conservative member of Congress, he endorsed Byron Donalds.

00:04:56.280 But then Byron didn't manage to secure the GOP nomination to become speaker.

00:05:00.660 There were a bunch of good candidates for that nomination, a bunch of solid conservatives.

00:05:07.060 And instead of nominating one of those conservatives, the GOP conference in the House decided to nominate

00:05:12.580 Tom Emmer, who's a big squish. 1.00

00:05:15.240 Tom Emmer is this Republican who is on leadership track, who is absolutely.

00:05:21.820 I'm not saying he's the single worst choice that the Republicans could have picked, but he's not far from it.

00:05:26.600 He was able to secure the GOP nomination for speaker on the fifth secret ballot in a face-off against

00:05:34.520 Representative Mike Johnson, who's a Louisiana Republican, who is way more conservative than

00:05:39.580 Emmer and who is all around a pretty solid pick.

00:05:43.380 Tom Emmer, last December, voted to codify, quote unquote, same-sex marriage into law.

00:05:51.960 Tom Emmer, not that long ago, this wasn't five years ago, this wasn't ten years ago, obviously.

00:05:58.020 Tom Emmer just ten months ago voted for a bill so egregiously liberal on an issue so profoundly

00:06:07.000 fundamental to politics, the nature of marriage, that Barack Obama at the beginning of his second

00:06:12.460 term might not have voted for it.

00:06:14.880 Tom Emmer decides that he wants to be the Speaker of the House.

00:06:18.240 With Republicans like Tom Emmer, who needs Democrats?

00:06:22.700 And with Republicans like the ones who voted for him to be the Speaker of the House,

00:06:26.320 who needs a Republican majority in the House?

00:06:28.380 So Emmer gets the nomination.

00:06:30.160 This is all happening yesterday, by the way.

00:06:31.820 Then Donald Trump, who is the leader of the Republican Party, whether people like it or not, 0.65

00:06:36.680 he comes out and he says that Tom Emmer stinks.

00:06:40.480 So he says, I have many wonderful friends wanting to be Speaker of the House.

00:06:43.660 Some are truly great warriors.

00:06:45.140 Rhino Tom Emmer, who I do not know well, is not one of them.

00:06:48.280 He never respected the power of a Trump endorsement.

00:06:51.160 Of course, Trump immediately makes it about himself, not about the rhino part.

00:06:54.640 He makes it about Trump.

00:06:55.840 He goes, he never respected the power of a Trump endorsement or the breadth and scope of MAGA,

00:06:59.120 make America great again, very true.

00:07:01.240 He fought me all the way and actually spent more time defending Ilhan Omar than he did me.

00:07:06.040 He's totally out of touch with Republican voters.

00:07:07.860 That's true.

00:07:08.700 I believe he has now learned his lesson because he is saying that he is pro-Trump all the way.

00:07:12.820 But who can ever be sure?

00:07:14.440 So true.

00:07:14.940 There are a lot of people who hated Trump in 16 and they liked him or pretended to like

00:07:18.540 him in 2020, and now they hate him again.

00:07:21.920 So who can ever be sure?

00:07:23.260 Has he only changed because that's what it takes to win?

00:07:25.440 The Republican Party cannot take that chance because that's not where the America first

00:07:28.440 voters are.

00:07:29.280 Voting for a globalist rhino like Tom Emmer would be a tragic mistake.

00:07:32.280 Absolutely right.

00:07:33.140 Trump was correct here.

00:07:34.140 Even if Trump was correct for the wrong reasons, and I'm not saying he was, he may have been

00:07:38.260 correct for the right reasons and certain selfish reasons, but even if he were correct for the

00:07:43.560 wrong reasons, he still made the right call in the end, which is often the case with Donald

00:07:47.860 Trump.

00:07:48.360 He said, Tom Emmer doesn't like me, so I don't like him.

00:07:51.360 I say Tom Emmer is a big squish, so I don't like him to be the speaker nominee.

00:07:55.420 Either way, we've arrived at the same conclusion.

00:07:57.160 And it turns out the GOP conference did as well, because no sooner was Tom Emmer nominated

00:08:04.940 to be the house candidate for speaker than he was booted out of it.

00:08:09.360 He dropped out of the race because he didn't have the votes.

00:08:13.580 So then what happens?

00:08:15.320 Well, all within the span of about 24 hours, we now have a speaker nominee.

00:08:23.120 And just when things were looking terrible for the conservatives, just when it looked like

00:08:26.720 Matt Gaetz's political career was over because he booted out Kevin McCarthy, who was way better

00:08:30.660 than Tom Emmer, who was better than having no speaker whatsoever, just when things were

00:08:34.580 looking totally bleak, a ray of hope showed up, which we'll get to in a second.

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00:09:45.420 I think now we're on our 57th speaker candidate for the Republicans, something like that.

00:09:52.260 I think at least half of my colleagues have been nominated and lost at this point.

00:09:55.720 I don't know.

00:09:56.020 At what point do I, I think I might be nominated.

00:09:58.540 I may have already been nominated and withdrawn.

00:10:00.540 Who knows?

00:10:01.320 It's happening so fast.

00:10:03.660 But finally, we've got a speaker nominee who's pretty good, Mike Johnson.

00:10:09.420 Think about just the amazing back and forth here.

00:10:12.300 You have Kevin McCarthy, who's not great, but he's better than recent Republican speakers,

00:10:17.700 and he's certainly more conservative than guys like Tom Emmer.

00:10:20.740 Then they boot out McCarthy, and who do we get?

00:10:23.300 We get Steve Scalise, who's also kind of squishy and not particularly conservative.

00:10:28.040 Well, that's no good.

00:10:29.140 But then we get, who do we get?

00:10:31.040 We get Jim Jordan.

00:10:31.880 Jim Jordan's great.

00:10:32.660 Love Jim Jordan.

00:10:33.240 Very conservative, solid guy.

00:10:34.780 But then he doesn't have the vote.

00:10:35.940 So then who do we get?

00:10:37.140 We get maybe Byron Donalds.

00:10:38.380 We get maybe Bergman.

00:10:39.520 We get maybe this guy.

00:10:40.280 Okay, now we get Tom Emmer.

00:10:42.200 That's terrible.

00:10:42.960 Now we get Mike Johnson.

00:10:43.920 Mike Johnson is really solid.

00:10:45.880 He is a Christian, conservative Republican.

00:10:50.060 He is pretty rock-ribbed, as far as I can tell, on all of the issues. 0.75

00:10:54.520 So he would be a good choice.

00:10:56.360 We will see if he gets the actual votes that it takes to become speaker.

00:11:02.440 With Tom Emmer, there were all sorts of red flags.

00:11:06.060 But the biggest one to me was his vote for codifying into law this radical, preposterous

00:11:12.040 redefinition of marriage that says that marriage is not, as it has always been for all of human

00:11:16.780 history, a union between a man and a woman.

00:11:19.020 But it is now, because some liberal says so, a union between two guys, or two women, or a man and a woman, or soon enough, three dudes and a billy goat.

00:11:27.940 And that's a big red flag.

00:11:31.780 Because while the squish Republicans say, oh, who cares?

00:11:35.260 It's a social issue.

00:11:36.080 How does it affect you?

00:11:37.640 You know, just mind your own business.

00:11:40.000 Who cares about that?

00:11:40.940 People who have ever thought seriously about politics for even 30 seconds recognize that the fundamental social institution probably has an effect on politics.

00:11:55.220 That the bedrock atomic unit of society, which is the family, the definition of the family, the nature of the family, probably has some effect on politics.

00:12:07.100 And if Kevin McCarthy voted against redefining marriage, Kevin McCarthy, and don't even just tell me that it's because Tom Emmer represents a liberal district.

00:12:15.220 He doesn't.

00:12:15.700 He represents a conservative district.

00:12:17.360 Kevin McCarthy is from a liberal state.

00:12:19.420 Kevin McCarthy is from California. 0.71

00:12:20.780 And yet Kevin McCarthy, the supposedly awful, squishy, establishment, rhino liberal, he knows what marriage is.

00:12:28.880 He voted with the conservatives on marriage.

00:12:30.540 Tom Emmer voted against it.

00:12:31.660 And I suspect the reason Tom Emmer voted against defending marriage and voted in favor of radically redefining it is because he, like so many Beltway people, think that the wave of social liberalism is impossible to oppose.

00:12:47.440 And it's just a messy issue.

00:12:49.880 And look, we all have a gay cousin.

00:12:51.500 And so we don't want to be mean to our gay friends.

00:12:55.680 And we think it's somehow cruel to tell people the truth about a fundamental institution.

00:12:59.680 And so can we just ignore it?

00:13:02.440 It's been decided.

00:13:03.560 Let's move on.

00:13:06.020 We heard the same thing about abortion in Roe v. Wade from the same kind of squishy Republicans.

00:13:11.760 They said, oh, it's a messy issue.

00:13:13.160 And if you defend babies in the womb, you're being cruel to women.

00:13:19.540 If you defend the real meaning of marriage, you're being cruel to people who have divergent sexual desires.

00:13:25.900 It's a lie in both cases.

00:13:27.520 To defend innocent life in the womb and outside the womb is not cruel to women.

00:13:32.560 It's compassionate and charitable because it's truthful.

00:13:36.060 Because babies are babies and we know it's wrong to kill them.

00:13:40.020 Defending the traditional meaning of marriage, what marriage actually means, is not cruel to anybody.

00:13:46.120 It's not cruel to people who have divergent sexual views.

00:13:48.600 It's charitable.

00:13:49.680 It's compassionate because it's truthful. 0.99

00:13:51.860 You're not saying you want to take gay guys and throw them off rooftops.

00:13:55.060 You're just saying, hey, man, marriage has a meaning and it can't be changed because it speaks to something that is fundamental to human nature and certainly fundamental to society. 0.51

00:14:06.300 Because men and women are different and complementary.

00:14:10.500 That the union between a man and a woman is special and it's different than the union between two men and two women.

00:14:16.540 Those unions, whatever they are, they're not the same thing because men and women are different. 0.96

00:14:22.520 That's compassionate.

00:14:23.520 If you believe that it is compassionate to tell men who are confused and think that they're women that they're not really women.

00:14:32.660 If you can at least side with the conservatives on the trans issues, then it is a, if you follow that instinct to its logical conclusion, you have to side with the conservatives on marriage because the point is the same. 0.59

00:14:45.380 The basic point in both cases is men and women are different.

00:14:49.560 This issue is not going anywhere.

00:14:51.280 Just because Anthony Kennedy rapped poetic when he was sitting on the Supreme Court and he wrote odes in Supreme Court decisions about the constitutional right to intimacy that we all have, man, you know, with the universe and the vibes.

00:15:07.140 That doesn't change anything and the issue is not going to go away.

00:15:10.440 Just as Roe v. Wade didn't take the issue of abortion off the table of political debate, so too Obergefell and this ridiculous act passed by Congress with the approval of Tom Emmer, it's not going to take marriage off the table because marriage is fundamental.

00:15:26.300 Can you imagine the hubris, can you imagine the hubris, can you imagine the pride of thinking that the fundamental institution that has endured for all of human history everywhere on earth can just be changed willy-nilly overnight by a handful of wacky liberals, mostly on the Supreme Court and some others in the beltway, and then there will just be no pushback and that's it?

00:15:48.400 Can you imagine the hubris, can you imagine the hubris, in fact, we can because we see this kind of hubris and pride come from Washington politicians all the time, but it doesn't make it real.

00:15:57.160 Now, speaking of love and marriage and the baby carriage, there's a new study out that shows you the reality of mass migration.

00:16:07.060 You know, we've dealt with mass migration for something like 70 years now and it just keeps increasing over time.

00:16:12.000 I remember a few years ago when we were rending our garments and gnashing our teeth because there were 2,000 illegal aliens crossing the border every day.

00:16:21.280 That was such a record high, we were so shocked by that.

00:16:23.440 And then the number crept up to 2,500, 3,000, 3,500.

00:16:28.740 Well, now here are the numbers.

00:16:30.580 Over the last 12 months, the Biden administration has welcomed at least one economic migrant into the United States for every newborn baby in the United States.

00:16:44.980 For every one new baby born in the U.S., you get one new economic migrant.

00:16:50.840 Not some poor woman fleeing persecution, not someone seeking political asylum, not a little doe-eyed dreamer.

00:16:59.180 We're talking just plain, regular old, often fighting age, often male economic migrants coming into the country. 0.99

00:17:05.580 One for every newborn baby.

00:17:07.320 One for every high school graduate in the United States.

00:17:10.580 The liberals always talk about a conspiracy theory called the Great Replacement.

00:17:15.280 And they say that the Republicans are peddling a conspiracy theory called the Great Replacement. 0.94

00:17:20.380 And it's a white supremacist, neo-Nazi, racist, this-ist, that-ist. 0.94

00:17:25.920 And I can't quite tell. 0.99

00:17:27.100 What does that mean?

00:17:27.920 Does it mean that the policy of mass migration is being used to displace the current population and because of declining, cratering birth rates among the native population, in fact, replace the native population with foreigners from other countries?

00:17:43.660 How could you call that a conspiracy theory in the face of this study and so many other studies like it?

00:17:53.760 That's just an empirical fact.

00:17:57.640 Foreigners are replacing the native-born population of the United States. 1.00

00:18:02.220 And this isn't happening merely accidentally.

00:18:05.000 It's happening as a matter of policy from the very top of the U.S. government.

00:18:09.800 When Joe Biden says, come across that border, even when he sometimes contradicts himself and he says, oh, we're going to build a wall.

00:18:15.320 We've got to take care of this.

00:18:16.260 But they're not actually doing that.

00:18:18.260 And sometimes they're explicit about it.

00:18:19.620 And they say, come across that border.

00:18:21.160 Yes, flood in.

00:18:22.520 Diversity is our strength.

00:18:23.920 We're a nation of immigrants.

00:18:25.740 Borders don't work.

00:18:26.820 Walls are cruel.

00:18:27.960 Come on.

00:18:28.480 No human being is illegal.

00:18:29.640 You're all future Americans.

00:18:30.540 You're all dreamers.

00:18:31.080 In fact, we are going to ignore the Constitution.

00:18:34.580 This is Barack Obama admitting this.

00:18:36.300 We'll ignore the Constitution and just give you the right to stay in the country. 1.00

00:18:40.660 This is an intentional policy.

00:18:43.540 And they brag about it. 0.97

00:18:45.180 But then when you observe it and you cite statistics and you look at all the scientific studies, you're a crazy conspiracy theorist, white supremacist, racist, Nazi, I don't know, whatever. 0.91

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00:21:29.100 Speaking of babies, there is a meme going around, and it's a meme from a protest.

00:21:36.480 It's a real picture.

00:21:37.340 It was a real photograph that was taken, and it was one of these pro-Palestine marches.

00:21:41.320 And the banner that these protesters in the streets were holding says, reproductive justice

00:21:47.660 means free Palestine.

00:21:50.980 And everyone's making fun of this.

00:21:52.400 They're saying, what does that have to do with anything?

00:21:54.300 What does support for abortion have to do with supporting Hamas?

00:21:59.120 A lot of these protests don't seem to make a lot of sense, like queers for Palestine. 0.96

00:22:07.340 You've got these decadent LGBT LMNOP people with crazy colored hair who do all sorts of 1.00

00:22:12.720 weird sex stuff, and they're saying that they support Palestine, while if they were ever 0.99

00:22:17.960 actually to visit Palestine, they would be hurled from the top of a roof. 0.87

00:22:21.080 That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, right?

00:22:22.960 That's completely crazy.

00:22:24.460 But this one does make sense to me.

00:22:26.900 In fact, this is the only one that makes sense to me.

00:22:29.600 Because reproductive justice is a euphemism for killing babies, innocent little babies 1.00

00:22:36.080 in the womb. 0.65

00:22:37.160 And free Palestine, 999 times out of 1,000, is just a euphemism for support Hamas terrorists 0.62

00:22:44.200 who target civilians.

00:22:45.320 So in both cases, we're talking about targeting and killing innocent people. 0.50

00:22:50.340 That's all that means.

00:22:51.340 So of course that makes sense.

00:22:52.920 Of course, these two groups agree with one another.

00:22:56.220 Similar to how people were scratching their heads when BLM came out and supported Hamas.

00:23:02.020 They didn't just support Palestine.

00:23:04.140 They didn't just oppose Zionism and the historical development of the nation state of Israel or

00:23:08.420 anything like that.

00:23:09.280 They openly supported Hamas with pictures of paragliders, the kind of people who landed at 1.00

00:23:14.280 that music festival and killed civilians.

00:23:15.860 And they said, we stand with Palestine.

00:23:20.320 Why?

00:23:20.780 Because the argument that BLM is making is that America is an oppressive colonial power and

00:23:27.740 we need a total rebellion to unseat the settlers and the colonizers from power.

00:23:33.760 That's what they say, usually in those exact words.

00:23:36.840 And what's the argument for the pro-Palestine, pro-Hamas side? 0.72

00:23:39.820 They say Israel is a colonial power established by the British Empire, much like America was,

00:23:45.600 and they're oppressors and they're settlers and they're colonizers. 0.99

00:23:48.600 And we need a total revolution to eradicate all of them. 0.98

00:23:51.700 And not just eradicate an ideology, by the way, but eradicate actual people from this territory.

00:23:57.100 So it's the exact same argument that is being made by BLM.

00:24:01.160 Of course, there is some agreement there.

00:24:03.440 And of course, people who think it's fine to kill innocent little babies in the womb,

00:24:07.740 of course, they're going to think it's fine to kill civilians in a time of war.

00:24:11.800 They're not going to think twice about it.

00:24:13.480 Now, speaking of killing civilians, Hillary Clinton was just giving a talk 0.99

00:24:17.800 at the Institute for Global Politics.

00:24:21.480 And she was fielding questions, I suppose.

00:24:24.280 And one brave young man stood up to question Hillary's warmongering.

00:24:30.000 Can you please make a statement about President Joe Biden's speech?

00:24:34.700 This is a clearly warmongering speech.

00:24:37.360 President Joe Biden is calling for $100 billion of funding for Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine.

00:24:43.880 And we're supposed to just bundle these together and pretend like we're going to rush to World

00:24:47.280 War III and we're all just going to let Hillary Rodham Clinton sit here. 1.00

00:24:51.160 Okay.

00:24:52.040 I'm sorry.

00:24:53.180 You know, this is not the way to have a conversation.

00:24:57.120 If you all have a conversation, you're welcome to come talk to me afterwards.

00:25:01.200 You can sit here.

00:25:02.440 Okay.

00:25:02.940 Right.

00:25:03.360 You're going to wait for me, right?

00:25:05.340 Please.

00:25:05.960 I do not believe you.

00:25:07.620 And I will listen to you.

00:25:08.340 And I will respond to you.

00:25:09.200 I do not believe you.

00:25:10.520 Respectfully, I do not believe you.

00:25:12.020 The fact of the matter is that the American people's voice are what needs to be heard.

00:25:16.160 Yeah, they are being heard.

00:25:16.900 Because our president is not speaking for the American people and neither are you.

00:25:20.520 Well, that's your opinion.

00:25:21.400 That's your opinion.

00:25:21.960 Yes, that's my opinion.

00:25:23.500 Well, then sit down.

00:25:24.640 We've heard your opinion.

00:25:25.740 Thank you very much.

00:25:27.120 For once, I actually believe Hillary.

00:25:29.440 This man seems incredulous that Hillary will stick around and wait for him afterwards.

00:25:36.160 I think she's going to wait for him.

00:25:38.560 I think she's, this man is definitely going to see Hillary again.

00:25:42.720 You know, I'm really sorry to hear about this man's imminent suicide.

00:25:48.100 Seems like a nice enough fella, a little bit excitable, a little bit eccentric, but they're going to talk soon.

00:25:55.540 And there might not be much talking, actually, in that conversation.

00:26:01.300 I sometimes wonder how I've survived Hillary all these years.

00:26:04.620 I think it's because, I've mentioned this on the show before, but not recently, Hillary and I are cousins-in-law.

00:26:12.400 On my great-grandmother's side, on my paternal great-grandmother's side, we've got, I've got a relative who married into the Rodham family.

00:26:23.280 And so Hillary is a sort of cousin of mine.

00:26:24.720 And I think it's merely because of family ties that she has not just shown up yet in the middle of the night, you know, with a mustache on, or maybe just a full ski mask and just put that pillow over my head, snuffed out me and this entire show.

00:26:38.480 Thankfully, I'm grateful to Hillary for that. 0.99

00:26:40.860 This man, however, does not seem to have any ties of kinship with Hillary.

00:26:43.920 And so I'm not sure that he'll be so lucky.

00:26:46.380 In any case, what does this mean here?

00:26:50.060 What it means politically is that the Democrats are now the party of war.

00:26:56.560 When I was growing up, 20 years ago, Republicans were the party of war.

00:27:03.660 Republicans were the party of going in and bombing the Middle East.

00:27:06.560 And they often had Democrats' support in those endeavors, but the Democrats had plausible deniability because George W. Bush was the president.

00:27:13.380 And they could say, oh, Bush lied, and he tricked us, and we actually would have opposed the war had we known now.

00:27:18.320 The Democrats were the anti-war party, and the Republicans were the pro-war party.

00:27:21.900 That has completely flipped, just like a lot has flipped in politics since I was a kid.

00:27:27.260 When I was a kid, Republicans, they were the party of the big fat cat.

00:27:30.420 They were the party of Wall Street, party of rich Uncle Pennybags.

00:27:33.200 Democrats were the party of the working man.

00:27:34.820 That has completely flipped. 0.90

00:27:36.560 Now, Republicans are the party of the deplorable, irredeemable, blue-collar, disgusting, low-class worker, whatever sort of things Hillary would call them. 0.97

00:27:46.260 And Democrats, they're the party of, oh, the ivory tower and the cocktail party set and Wall Street and big business. 0.87

00:27:54.040 It was a huge flip.

00:27:56.320 When I was a kid, Republicans were the party of free trade and globalization.

00:28:01.440 Democrats largely were the party of economic protection.

00:28:05.700 And skepticism toward free trade.

00:28:08.620 Bill Clinton signed a big free trade deal, but a lot of Democrats were very skeptical of free trade.

00:28:12.880 That's totally flipped.

00:28:14.040 Now, Republicans are the party of protection, which is a return to a more traditional Republican view.

00:28:18.140 The Republican Party, in fact, was founded on tariffs.

00:28:20.680 Abraham Lincoln was a major proponent of economic protection and tariffs.

00:28:24.220 Democrats were much more in favor of free trade.

00:28:25.940 Things change.

00:28:28.640 And a lot of people respond to this by saying that it's hypocrisy.

00:28:34.780 Sometimes it is hypocrisy.

00:28:37.340 Sometimes it is.

00:28:38.160 But a lot of times it is not.

00:28:39.560 A lot of times it is because politics is about applying eternal principles to changing circumstances.

00:28:45.160 And so in certain political circumstances, a little more trade might be a good thing.

00:28:51.520 A little loosening up of economic controls might be a good thing.

00:28:53.960 In other circumstances, though, it might not be.

00:28:57.860 It's not always hypocrisy here.

00:28:59.800 However, in the case of peace and war, this does seem to be a more significant shift than should we open up the trade a little bit or should we increase the tariffs a little bit.

00:29:10.660 This is a recognition that the Democrats are now the hegemonic political power in the United States.

00:29:17.240 Maybe that's been the case for a long time and we just didn't notice it.

00:29:20.500 But the Democrats now having amassed power in virtually every single sector of the country.

00:29:25.920 The one area where they didn't have total hegemony was in the military.

00:29:29.560 And even there, you can see the top brass has gone totally woke.

00:29:32.500 Mark Milley whining about white rage and promoting critical race theory as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

00:29:38.360 They seem to have even the military as well.

00:29:41.340 And with that hegemonic power, you're going to see a much more willingness to flex that power.

00:29:47.460 And so on the domestic front, you're going to get show trials like we saw with Jenna Ellis and the tearful forced confession.

00:29:53.560 And overseas, you are going to get war, war, and more war.

00:29:57.620 And the protesters, the sincere protesters, the ones who are actually dissidents in our country, they're going to tend to be on the right.

00:30:05.840 Now, speaking of liberal women who want to be president, we've got 1,000 candidates for Speaker of the House. 1.00

00:30:13.180 We've got a little less than that for President of the United States.

00:30:17.300 We might get a new candidate for president, and that would be Liz Cheney. 1.00

00:30:21.000 If it came down to it, even though you disagree with Joe Biden on almost every issue under the sun, other than maybe Ukraine and Israel, would you vote for him over Donald Trump?

00:30:32.380 We're going to see what happens.

00:30:34.040 We're going to see how things unfold.

00:30:35.500 I think Donald Trump is the single most dangerous threat we face.

00:30:38.820 I would imagine that there will be a number of other candidates in the race.

00:30:43.080 Would you be one of them?

00:30:43.900 I think I'll tell you what I'm definitely going to do.

00:30:47.140 I'm going to spend the next year between now and the election certainly helping to elect serious people, helping to elect sane people to Congress.

00:30:58.360 Of both parties?

00:30:59.320 Yes.

00:30:59.780 We don't want a situation where the election is thrown into the House of Representatives, and Donald Trump has any possibility at all of prevailing under those circumstances.

00:31:07.280 So we've got to elect people who believe in the Constitution and who take their responsibilities seriously to Congress.

00:31:12.820 So I'm going to be spending a lot of time doing that in addition to other things.

00:31:16.220 But you're not ruling out a presidential run?

00:31:17.880 No, I'm not.

00:31:19.920 Liz Cheney has been trying to gin up a presidential run for a long time. 1.00

00:31:23.500 Sort of like the girl in Mean Girls who's trying to make the word fetch happen. 0.83

00:31:27.940 It's not going to happen.

00:31:28.920 There's not going to be a major rally for Liz. 0.97

00:31:31.600 We're ready for Liz.

00:31:33.300 It's Cheney time.

00:31:34.440 You know what we need now?

00:31:36.260 Cheney is president.

00:31:37.340 Yeah, that's not going to happen.

00:31:39.940 My response to that is LOL.

00:31:41.900 She says, I'm going to elect serious people, sane people.

00:31:44.820 Whenever you hear Republicans using that kind of language, it is a euphemism for electing Democrats.

00:31:53.740 Well, look, I'm not a turncoat.

00:31:56.220 I'm not a squish. 1.00

00:31:57.340 I'm not betraying what I profess to be my beliefs and my constituents. 0.99

00:32:01.280 No, I'm just, I just think these Republicans have gone insane.

00:32:06.880 There have been these sorts of political ads going all the way back to the Barry Goldwater campaign. 0.98

00:32:12.840 I'm a Republican all my life, but this Goldwater man, he's totally crazy. 1.00

00:32:17.380 So I'm going to only vote for Democrats now.

00:32:20.140 You hear it all the time.

00:32:21.740 And you're hearing it today from Liz Cheney.

00:32:24.200 These are people who give proof of what is called the Uniparty.

00:32:29.180 Jake Tapper says, you'll elect people at both parties?

00:32:32.860 Yeah, sure.

00:32:34.100 As long as they're going to stop that Donald Trump. 0.96

00:32:36.620 Because that crazy Donald Trump, he wants to stop mass migration. 0.94

00:32:40.640 He wants to stop perpetual war. 0.94

00:32:43.560 He wants to bring manufacturing back to the United States.

00:32:47.720 He wants us to be self-sufficient and not just debt slaves to China.

00:32:50.440 He wants us to be normal.

00:32:53.720 He wants us to live according to an ordinary American life.

00:32:56.100 And he wants to make the country great again.

00:32:57.200 We can't have that.

00:32:57.960 So I'll elect anybody.

00:32:59.280 My number one priority is preventing that from happening.

00:33:02.020 And I'll elect Democrats.

00:33:03.480 And I'll elect Republicans.

00:33:04.380 But I'm mostly going to elect Democrats.

00:33:06.220 Because that's what side they're on right now.

00:33:07.760 So she says she's going to maybe run for president. 0.98

00:33:09.980 The 2024 primary, I think, comes down largely to a denial of reality.

00:33:16.060 Some people occasionally on the show have accused me of simping for Donald Trump, for not attacking Donald Trump enough or frequently enough or being too positive about his chances of becoming the nominee.

00:33:30.780 And I sometimes feel that those criticisms are shooting the messenger because, as I've said, I'm not endorsing anybody in the primary.

00:33:40.460 I like Donald Trump.

00:33:42.280 I don't hate Donald Trump.

00:33:43.460 I like him.

00:33:43.960 And I like Ron DeSantis.

00:33:45.900 I think Ron DeSantis is a great candidate.

00:33:47.800 I think he's a great governor.

00:33:49.400 I think he could be a good GOP nominee.

00:33:51.640 I like other people in the race, too.

00:33:53.900 But I am not going to deny the reality that Donald Trump is almost certainly going to be the GOP nominee.

00:34:03.020 It's not impossible that someone else could get it. 0.94

00:34:05.380 He could, God forbid, drop dead.

00:34:06.880 They could just lock him up forever. 0.69

00:34:08.480 Like, who knows?

00:34:09.260 But all of the evidence available to us says that Trump is almost certainly going to be the nominee.

00:34:16.860 And a lot of people in this primary are denying that.

00:34:19.720 And the main way they deny it is by pretending that this is just an ordinary primary.

00:34:23.900 It's not.

00:34:24.560 You've got the former president running for a non-consecutive second term.

00:34:27.880 We haven't seen that sort of thing in a very long time.

00:34:30.640 He's up, like, 50 points in the polls.

00:34:33.360 His organization is much more put together than the other candidates' organizations.

00:34:39.180 He's a global celebrity and has been for 40 years.

00:34:42.540 He has already been the president.

00:34:44.120 So he's got a leg up because he can prove that he's done certain things that have been popular.

00:34:48.960 He is uncommonly charismatic, in part because he's a Hollywood celebrity.

00:34:54.660 Those are just facts.

00:34:56.020 You might hate him.

00:34:56.780 You might say some other guy would be a better president.

00:34:58.880 Maybe the other guy would be a better president, but that's just a reality.

00:35:02.260 And one of the guarantors that Donald Trump will be the nominee, if he is to be the nominee,

00:35:10.520 is that everybody keeps denying reality.

00:35:12.820 So all these people are sticking in the race.

00:35:15.700 The fact that these candidates who are at 1% and 2% and 3% are still in the race,

00:35:19.620 the fact that Doug Burgum, entertaining as he is, charming as he might be sometimes, is still in the race,

00:35:24.520 the fact that Liz Cheney is considering entering into the race,

00:35:27.200 shows you that the Republican Party is denying political reality.

00:35:30.660 And so long as they do that, the person whom reality at the moment tends to favor is most likely to prevail.

00:35:40.120 It's now time to bring an end to the 18-year-long nightmare of the case of Stephen Avery and the murder of Teresa Halbach.

00:35:46.720 Do not miss the season finale of Convicting a Murderer tomorrow.

00:35:49.800 You know the story, and now we're exposing the truth.

00:35:51.940 Candace is finally bringing you answers to all the questions making a murderer created.

00:35:55.480 Make sure you're caught up on episodes 1 through 9 for the finale tomorrow,

00:35:59.060 because you are not going to want to wait to see what was uncovered in the final episode.

00:36:03.360 Here is a sneak peek at the season finale.

00:36:06.400 Coming up on the finale of Convicting a Murderer.

00:36:09.380 How were these filmmakers able to convince so many people that a man like Stephen Avery is innocent?

00:36:15.700 The only story they wanted to tell was one of police corruption.

00:36:19.620 They were committed to a story.

00:36:22.500 She's doing a good job. She's doing a lot of investigation.

00:36:24.560 They were looking into things for him.

00:36:27.260 She knew more than the public defender and my investigator.

00:36:30.940 They were Stephen Avery's PR team.

00:36:32.940 They convinced millions of people that they were innocent.

00:36:36.760 Emails show that they were providing plenty of direction,

00:36:39.460 that the Averys were to look like a close-knit family.

00:36:42.380 Manitowoc County officers were to look suspicious.

00:36:44.720 I think I will forever be obsessed with the media's ability

00:36:48.040 to turn a villain into a hero or a hero into the villain.

00:36:51.640 If they could do it to me, they can do it to anybody else.

00:36:55.600 Make sure you tune in.

00:37:03.320 It's the last episode of this saga.

00:37:04.960 Bravo to Candace for doing fabulous work and exposing media lies. 0.99

00:37:08.300 You can binge all 10 episodes tomorrow, but only if you're a Daily Wire Plus member.

00:37:11.700 So sign up today at dailywire.com slash subscribe to watch the entire series.

00:37:15.460 Do not miss the season finale of Convicting a Murderer tomorrow.

00:37:19.260 Sign up today.

00:37:20.280 My favorite comment yesterday is from Larry Oxentine, 8310, who says,

00:37:26.100 A church building is just a building.

00:37:27.580 The church is the people.

00:37:28.920 It will never be destroyed.

00:37:30.880 There is a lot of truth to that, but it's not totally true.

00:37:35.460 Because the church is incarnational.

00:37:39.280 Because the faith is incarnational.

00:37:40.800 Because our Lord is incarnate of the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.

00:37:45.640 So, yes, we don't want to make an idol out of physical things, but we don't want to deny the importance and the significance of physical things.

00:37:56.280 Our Lord takes on flesh and dwells among us.

00:37:59.140 I heard this a lot during COVID.

00:38:00.600 Obviously, the more traditional flavors of Christianity, up to and including especially the Catholic Church, place a great deal of emphasis on physicality, on sacraments, on rites, on rituals, on gestures, on sacrament being the meeting of the physical and metaphysical.

00:38:20.960 And so, what I heard from some of my friends who are a little less sacramentally inclined, who are Christian, is they would say, well, look, the church isn't a place.

00:38:31.380 It's just, you know, it's a metaphysical thing.

00:38:34.120 And yeah, it's metaphysical, but it's physical too.

00:38:36.780 You know, what does our Lord do when he's resurrected and he goes to see his friends and he's standing, they're all out on the ship and he's out just on the beach.

00:38:47.580 He's grilling them fish.

00:38:48.920 It's like the fleshiest thing you can possibly imagine.

00:38:53.280 He spits in the dirt and smudges it on people's eyes to heal them.

00:38:58.660 He breathes on the apostles.

00:39:00.520 You know, there's a physical aspect here.

00:39:02.060 And so, obviously, the comment is in response to Israel's destruction of part of this extremely old church that dates back at the very least to the 12th century and really has roots all the way back in antiquity in Gaza.

00:39:15.120 And I said, obviously, the state of Israel has a right to defend itself, but we need an explanation of why this happened because the wanton destruction of ancient and religious architecture, art, relics, that is a very serious thing.

00:39:32.340 We can't just throw our hands in the air and say, oh, well, the church is metaphysical.

00:39:36.180 Yeah, it's got a physical expression, too, in time and space and history.

00:39:41.080 In fact, that's perhaps the defining feature of the faith.

00:39:45.060 Now, moving on from Liz Cheney, but still speaking of blonde women, Taylor Swift has turned her Eras tour, it's this big tour where she went all around the country and it was sold out everywhere. 0.99

00:40:01.200 And I had the misfortune of being in downtown Nashville on a night when the concert let out, and I felt like I was in a third-world country.

00:40:08.060 You couldn't get a car.

00:40:09.040 There were a gazillion people flooding into the street.

00:40:11.040 It was mayhem.

00:40:12.120 People go crazy.

00:40:12.900 When Taylor Swift announced her concert tour, every woman in this office, I walk in, you know, I show up here early. 1.00

00:40:18.680 I'm here earlier than almost anybody, and the moment I come in, this is the very, very beginning of the workday.

00:40:25.560 Just as I come in from my show, all the girls are refreshing the page to try to get the early tickets from American. 0.85

00:40:31.900 People love Taylor Swift.

00:40:33.360 I have never in my life consciously, intentionally listened to a Taylor Swift song.

00:40:38.980 I couldn't name a Taylor Swift song.

00:40:40.980 The one exception to that is the one about I'm a problem, it's you, or I'm a problem, it's me.

00:40:48.620 I guess that would make more sense.

00:40:49.980 Because my producers made me listen to it, to react to it on the show.

00:40:53.600 But I couldn't tell you what a Taylor Swift song is other than that.

00:40:56.880 Well, she turned this best-selling tour into a movie. 0.99

00:40:59.780 And the movie has held the number one spot at the box office for the second weekend.

00:41:06.740 It's surged well over $100 million.

00:41:09.880 It's made history as the first concert film ever to cross the $100 million mark.

00:41:16.700 Why?

00:41:17.920 Why?

00:41:18.420 I don't, am I going to have to go see this movie?

00:41:20.820 Am I going to have, I avoided the Taylor Swift era's tour.

00:41:23.220 I might have to go see it to make sense of this cultural phenomenon.

00:41:28.060 Because I have an inkling of why Taylor Swift does so well.

00:41:31.940 I don't mean to diminish Taylor Swift.

00:41:35.400 She has a lot of things to recommend to her.

00:41:38.440 Is she Bach?

00:41:39.240 Is she Mozart?

00:41:40.020 No, I don't think so.

00:41:41.260 Is she the greatest lyricist or musician or singer or dancer ever?

00:41:47.400 No.

00:41:48.040 Is she the most glamorous Hollywood star ever? 1.00

00:41:50.360 No.

00:41:50.620 Is she, no.

00:41:53.560 And actually, I think that's why she's so popular. 0.96

00:41:59.180 She's just kind of normal.

00:42:02.800 And in another age, that would be fine and she might be popular. 0.74

00:42:08.460 But in our age, which is so abnormal, which exalts abnormality and bizarre things,

00:42:18.020 people crave something that's normal.

00:42:19.680 She's just kind of nice looking, blonde, doesn't have any tattoos, doesn't have any piercings, 0.97

00:42:28.520 doesn't.

00:42:29.140 When she makes statements about politics, they're relatively mild, center left, perfectly socially

00:42:36.620 acceptable statement.

00:42:38.600 Acceptable to the ruling class, still basically acceptable to the populace.

00:42:42.240 She sings songs about her ex-boyfriends.

00:42:45.720 That's pretty much it.

00:42:48.820 That's a relatable experience.

00:42:51.380 There's nothing particularly profound in any of the songs.

00:42:54.380 I'm not sure there's very much meaningful at all in the songs.

00:42:56.800 But she's just kind of normal.

00:42:59.840 And being kind of normal is enough in an age that has gone completely insane.

00:43:05.120 And speaking of what people want, a very sad study came out showing that nearly one in

00:43:11.520 four adults across the world report feeling very or fairly lonely.

00:43:17.180 This is according to a Meta Gallup survey.

00:43:19.500 This is not just a survey of Americans or a certain age bracket.

00:43:23.400 A new survey was taken across 142 countries.

00:43:26.200 It found that 24% of people age 15 and older self-reported feeling very or fairly lonely

00:43:32.860 in response to the question, how lonely do you feel?

00:43:36.240 The survey also found that the rates of loneliness were highest in young people.

00:43:40.080 So you might expect older people, maybe whose friends have died, who have suffered all sorts

00:43:43.540 of losses, lived a little bit, that they might be lonelier.

00:43:47.040 No, it's younger people.

00:43:48.060 The young people who are supposed to be out and constantly around other young people and

00:43:52.120 going on dates and just surrounded by social life.

00:43:55.600 They report being the loneliest.

00:43:57.840 27% of young adults aged 19 to 29 report feeling very or fairly lonely.

00:44:03.060 And the lowest rates were actually found in older adults.

00:44:06.080 Only 17% of people aged 65 and older reported feeling lonely.

00:44:10.540 Why is this?

00:44:11.200 Why is everybody so lonely?

00:44:13.020 Part of it is that we are living in that how does it affect you culture?

00:44:19.500 What we were talking about at the very top of the show, the culture which says ignore

00:44:23.480 social questions, ignore any need for consensus, any agreement on anything in society, how does

00:44:31.600 it affect you?

00:44:32.220 Let people do whatever decadent, divergent, depraved things they want to do.

00:44:37.540 Just you do you and I'll do me and we'll just do different things.

00:44:40.840 Well, a consequence of that is we're going to be more isolated.

00:44:43.300 We're not going to have as much in common and we're not going to have as much to say

00:44:46.000 to one another.

00:44:46.500 And we're not going to, we're going to feel alienated.

00:44:49.160 That's part of it.

00:44:50.040 But at a deeper level, why are people lonely?

00:44:53.280 At a deeper level, the loneliness pandemic is directly attributable to the decline and

00:44:59.760 sidelining of virtue.

00:45:01.660 It comes down to that because true friendship is only possible among virtuous people.

00:45:09.140 Good old Uncle Aristotle told us this millennia ago.

00:45:12.100 So there are three kinds of friendship, we could say.

00:45:16.100 Friendship of pleasure, you know, we both like meatballs and martinis.

00:45:21.380 Friendships of utility, which is we can help each other professionally, say.

00:45:28.280 And friendships of virtue, where people who are basically good, who practice virtue and

00:45:34.280 tamp down vice, spend time with one another because they're both oriented toward the good

00:45:40.400 and working toward the good.

00:45:41.940 And when you are oriented toward and working toward the good, you get happier.

00:45:46.020 And when you're oriented toward and doing things that are bad, you get less happy.

00:45:52.260 There's a good book by Alistair McIntyre, a still living philosopher, called After Virtue.

00:45:57.860 A highly recommended book because it talks about this very problem.

00:46:03.620 We have sidelined virtue.

00:46:05.240 We have forgotten about virtue.

00:46:06.740 Many people in our culture mock the notion of virtue and they say it's illusory.

00:46:10.400 And that's bad.

00:46:13.460 And if you don't care about virtue at all, you might end up in hell someday. 0.98

00:46:17.800 You're going to have probably a miserable life.

00:46:19.360 You're going to fall into bad habits.

00:46:20.500 You're going to do all sorts of things.

00:46:21.640 But one of the least discussed aspects of that is you're going to have a harder time

00:46:25.340 making friends.

00:46:26.000 I'm not saying that if you are lonely right now, it's because you are not virtuous.

00:46:30.720 It's a social problem.

00:46:31.960 If you live in a culture that denies and sidelines virtue is going to greatly increase the chances

00:46:39.320 that you're going to be lonely and have trouble making friends because it's a social problem.

00:46:42.440 It's not just about what you do.

00:46:43.420 It's about what everybody does.

00:46:44.900 But then there it is.

00:46:45.780 There is the answer to that question.

00:46:47.120 How does it affect you?

00:46:48.100 How does it affect you if we pass some law?

00:46:50.200 Well, because the law is a teacher and it molds the populace just as education molds children.

00:46:56.840 Well, how does it affect you?

00:46:58.140 It affects me because I live in a society.

00:47:00.400 And when you pass laws and when you have rituals and culture, that is going to warp the fabric

00:47:07.360 in which I move.

00:47:09.380 The fabric of the space in which I move.

00:47:11.480 And that is going to create a certain kind of society.

00:47:13.520 And that affects me a lot.

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The Michael Knowles Show - October 25, 2023

Ep. 1357 - The Jenna Ellis Guilty Plea Explained In 60 Seconds

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