The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1382 - DeSantis Vs Newsom Debate Summarized In 2 Minutes

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00:00:30.280 Last night, two governors from two different states with two entirely different approaches

00:00:34.620 to government who each want to be president squared off on Sean Hannity's show.

00:00:40.320 It was the sort of debate that in a politically serious and grounded country

00:00:44.520 might have swayed the public discourse and altered the course of our nation.

00:00:49.000 But we are not that kind of country anymore.

00:00:51.300 So it didn't do any of that and nothing changed.

00:00:54.460 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:00:55.120 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:01:00.000 Welcome back to the show.

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00:01:33.560 Or he's at the very least hinting at who he will not vote for.

00:01:37.560 We'll get to that in one second.

00:01:38.440 First, though, I don't want to move too fast off the DeSantis-Nusom debate.

00:01:44.340 I watched the whole debate.

00:01:45.560 It was a good debate.

00:01:46.800 And this morning, all the Democrats and even some of the Republicans are reporting that Gavin Newsom won.

00:01:56.060 And I don't really agree with that.

00:01:58.380 I agree that Gavin Newsom, I don't know, looks taller or something.

00:02:03.820 Gavin Newsom is a little slicker, certainly, than DeSantis.

00:02:08.020 So some people are making the comparison to the Nixon-Kennedy debate, that on the substance, Nixon would have won the debate, but Kennedy just looked more glamorous, so he won the debate.

00:02:18.540 There's this old line in politics, probably apocryphal, that the radio audience believed that Nixon had won because they were listening to the ideas.

00:02:27.780 But the film audience, the TV audience, thought that Kennedy had won.

00:02:32.660 I think DeSantis won.

00:02:34.340 I think it was pretty clear that DeSantis won the debate.

00:02:38.500 Newsom was a formidable opponent.

00:02:40.300 So right out the gate, DeSantis comes out.

00:02:43.100 He says, look, all the people are moving out of your state, moving to my state.

00:02:46.260 Your economy is terrible. 1.00

00:02:47.400 You've got excrement on the streets. 1.00

00:02:48.980 You know, he just stated the facts. 0.98

00:02:50.520 And the facts are so damning for California.

00:02:53.600 You thought, man, how on earth is Gavin Newsom ever going to defend his record?

00:02:59.900 It's just all right in front of our eyes.

00:03:01.920 And Gavin Newsom did the best job I think anyone possibly could.

00:03:07.360 And here's how.

00:03:08.440 I'm here to tell the truth about the Biden-Harris record and also compare and contrast Ron DeSantis' record and the Republican Party's record as a point of contrast that's as different as daylight and darkness.

00:03:22.120 You want to bring us back to a pre-1960s world, America in reverse.

00:03:28.160 You want to roll back hard-earned national rights on voting rights, on civil rights, on LGBTQ rights, on women's rights, not just access to abortion, but also access to contraception.

00:03:39.880 You want to weaponize grievance.

00:03:41.380 You are focusing on false separateness.

00:03:45.100 You, in particular, Ron, are on a banning binge, a cultural purge, intimidating and humiliating people you disagree with.

00:03:53.620 You and President Trump are really trying to light democracy on fire.

00:03:58.020 So, Sean, there are profound differences tonight, and I look forward to engaging them.

00:04:02.380 But there's one thing, in closing, that we have in common, is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024.

00:04:11.040 Oh, man, that guy's good.

00:04:13.860 He's so slick.

00:04:15.700 And DeSantis is not slick.

00:04:17.060 DeSantis is a little bit awkward, and his smile seems a little bit forced. 0.94

00:04:21.840 And Ron DeSantis is just a bulldog.

00:04:24.040 He's just a big bulldog who gets into office and wields power effectively and has a good political vision. 0.59

00:04:30.720 And Gavin Newsom has no vision whatsoever, and Gavin Newsom has a horrific record.

00:04:37.440 But he gave a great answer there.

00:04:38.740 And it's something that the smart politicians on the left have done for years, which is that if you're going to lose on the facts of our society, of how their policies are currently damaging people,

00:04:51.320 then you've got to reframe the debate away from the realities of the present toward the imagined horrors of the past.

00:05:02.160 Joe Biden is so good at this.

00:05:04.400 Joe Biden says, oh, you know, I completely saved the economy.

00:05:07.840 You think the economy's bad now, but, man, had Trump's policies continued?

00:05:12.860 Oh, you would be so much worse off.

00:05:15.260 Oh, it's horrifying.

00:05:16.500 You can't even imagine.

00:05:17.380 Oh, yeah, this World War III in the Middle East, it's bad.

00:05:20.320 But, you know, the only reason they're doing it is I was going to bring peace to the Middle East.

00:05:24.820 You think it's bad now.

00:05:26.840 Man, what the Republicans would have done?

00:05:28.520 Oh, it hypothetically would have been absolutely terrible.

00:05:31.400 And the best way they do this is by convincing everyone that the past was really bad.

00:05:35.700 This is at the heart of progressivism.

00:05:37.720 Progressivism says the past is evil and terrible and undesirable and miserable, and the present is a crisis, and the future is going to be really, really great.

00:05:45.600 Trust me, that's progressivism in 20 seconds.

00:05:50.120 And so, Newsom says, ignore the excrement on the street, ignore the struggling economy in certain places, ignore the open borders, ignore the crime, the rampant crime.

00:06:01.340 The 50s, segregation, back alley abortions, oppression, I don't know, regress, going backwards, all these really abstract things.

00:06:22.760 The worst aspects of our real past, coupled with imagined evils that people today having a prejudice for the present just believe occurred in the past.

00:06:38.040 And because DeSantis is a conservative, that accusation kind of sticks.

00:06:45.340 Now, how did DeSantis get out of it?

00:06:47.980 DeSantis said, yeah, okay, whatever.

00:06:49.700 Yeah, I know, the past is really, really terrible, but I'm not governing in the past.

00:06:52.660 I'm governing in the present.

00:06:53.540 My state's so good, Governor Newsom, that your own father-in-law moved to it.

00:06:58.300 I talked to a lot of the people that have moved from California to Florida, and we never used to get people from California to Florida or really anywhere in the east, because why would you leave California?

00:07:05.960 It's got the best weather, great natural, excuse me, sir.

00:07:09.360 But one of the things that I did, I had, I was talking to a gentleman, a couple.

00:07:13.820 Guys, guys, I'm going to let the debate breathe, but it's his turn.

00:07:17.980 Let's take turns.

00:07:19.320 So I was talking to a fella who had made the move from California to Florida, and he was telling me that Florida is much better governed, safer, better budget, lower taxes, all this stuff.

00:07:29.660 And he's really happy with the quality of life.

00:07:31.620 And then he paused and he said, you know, by the way, I'm Gavin Newsom's father-in-law.

00:07:36.260 So we do count Gavin's in-laws as some of the people that have fled California and come to the state of Florida.

00:07:42.560 Nice, nice.

00:07:44.860 Look, Ron DeSantis, you might say he's not the slickest, he's not the prettiest, he doesn't smile the best, but that guy prepares.

00:07:51.240 He prepared for that debate.

00:07:52.560 And Newsom is a super smart politician, too.

00:07:54.740 Newsom saw that attack coming a mile away.

00:07:57.400 That's why he tried to interrupt him.

00:07:58.980 That's why he tried to derail him.

00:08:00.520 But DeSantis wouldn't get derailed.

00:08:02.680 DeSantis just kept plowing through in a respectful way until Hannity, who was actually a very good moderator, 0.94

00:08:09.040 given the currently terrible tenor of these sorts of debates.

00:08:13.280 Hannity said, hey, come on, let DeSantis finish.

00:08:16.560 And then he totally landed that ending.

00:08:18.500 He said, yeah, you know, look, I talked to a lot of people.

00:08:21.980 No, no, cut it out.

00:08:23.040 Stop it, Ron.

00:08:23.540 Stop talking.

00:08:24.780 And one of them who really loves the government in my state and hates the government in your state is your own son-in-law.

00:08:30.840 Explain that. 0.96

00:08:32.480 So Newsom, look, Newsom was able to evade a lot of the attacks all night because he's Patrick Bateman, because he's American psycho. 0.66

00:08:41.120 DeSantis was prepared for that, too.

00:08:43.240 And so he took a moment to pull out of the actual issues of the debate to talk about and to acknowledge why DeSantis' performance sometimes doesn't seem as strong as Newsom's,

00:08:56.600 even when all the facts and arguments are on DeSantis' side.

00:08:59.180 He said, it's because you're slick willy over here.

00:09:01.560 This guy has no record.

00:09:03.240 I mean, the fact that you supported amnesty, the fact that you supported Obama's reforms, those are facts.

00:09:10.040 They're just simple facts.

00:09:11.240 The fact that your greatest contribution, Ron, to this debate is shooting people in backpacks.

00:09:16.180 I don't mind him lying to me.

00:09:19.280 I don't mind Gavin lying to me, but I do mind him lying to you.

00:09:22.380 He is sitting there saying that Joe Biden is willing to solve this problem.

00:09:26.800 Is there anybody out there that actually believes this?

00:09:29.660 Joe Biden created this problem.

00:09:31.940 So if he's willing to lie to you about that, you know he's lying to you about all these other facts and figures about all this other stuff.

00:09:38.260 He's just throwing stuff out to see what sticks against the wall.

00:09:41.000 This is a slick, slippery politician whose state is failing.

00:09:45.440 People are leaving his state, and he's trying to run interference for his failure.

00:09:49.040 This is a slick, slippery politician.

00:09:53.620 I love it because it's so true.

00:09:56.820 And DeSantis kept returning to this.

00:09:59.020 It's a really good campaign theme.

00:10:01.800 I happen to think DeSantis is right on one point, probably only one point, which is that neither Newsom nor DeSantis are going to be the nominee as of right now.

00:10:10.080 Who knows?

00:10:12.360 Lightning could strike.

00:10:13.280 But as of right now, the polls seem to show, the structure of the race seems to show that it's going to be Trump versus Biden.

00:10:19.260 And if that is the case, Trump should follow this strategy from DeSantis, which is they're always going to try to redirect to some hypothetical past or present crisis.

00:10:29.380 They're always going to try to off-foot the Republican, to distract them, to do a Jedi mind trick on the public.

00:10:36.040 And DeSantis kept coming back to, hey, you have eyes, you have pocketbooks, you have budgets, you have friends who are being subjected to crime and all sorts of disorder.

00:10:53.000 These slick politicians are lying to you, but you know the truth.

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00:12:17.640 Then, okay, there's only a couple more things I want to point out from this.

00:12:20.540 It was an instructive debate.

00:12:21.760 Even if it's not going to change the nomination in 2024, it gave a lot of good pointers for what the Republicans should do.

00:12:30.460 As DeSantis is squirming and trying to weasel his way out of every single question, DeSantis then returns to the bread and butter issue.

00:12:40.140 The bread and butter issue that the squishes want to run away from, the Chamber of Commerce wants to run away from, the Republican establishment wants to run away from, but that serves Republicans very, very well. 0.92

00:12:48.540 And that would be pointing out that the libs want you to believe that a dude can become a chick. 1.00

00:12:53.640 Let me just say something about parents' rights because he says California respects parents' rights.

00:12:57.680 This is rich.

00:12:58.400 He's been telling a lot of whoppers tonight, this may be the biggest.

00:13:01.360 In California, if you're a parent in Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina, your minor child can go to California without your knowledge or without your consent and get hormone therapy, puberty blockers, and a sex change operation all without you knowing or consenting.

00:13:20.340 How in the heck is that honoring parents' rights when you're bringing people from out of state to go around their parents' backs and getting life-altering surgeries?

00:13:30.600 That is radical.

00:13:31.880 That is extreme.

00:13:32.620 You know, Ron, these kids just want to live.

00:13:33.160 That is an assault on parents' rights.

00:13:35.460 You know what, Ron?

00:13:36.420 It's not for you to decide.

00:13:37.920 It's for the parents to decide.

00:13:39.500 You know what?

00:13:39.760 And the parents do not want their kids going to these other things.

00:13:43.480 Let me stay on a follow-up.

00:13:46.720 Let's turn to the issue of education.

00:13:48.400 Where's your decency and humanity?

00:13:50.320 Excellent.

00:13:51.140 Excellent argument.

00:13:53.960 Newsom knows it, so he's trying to cut him off.

00:13:55.620 He's trying to interrupt him.

00:13:56.980 What's so great about this is, one, we know the trans issue works for Republicans.

00:14:01.180 It got Glenn Youngkin elected in Virginia.

00:14:03.180 It helped make Ron DeSantis popular in Florida.

00:14:06.640 It's been a winner, contrary to what the squishes in the establishment will tell you.

00:14:10.140 And that profoundly social issue about sexual matters and things that we just should ignore

00:14:17.460 and only talk about our taxes or whatever they want you to do.

00:14:19.940 No, that social issue works.

00:14:23.620 It is very persuasive to people, especially when you talk about what the Democrats are

00:14:27.040 doing to kids, especially when you talk about the parental rights.

00:14:29.460 The other thing it does is it takes a strength of DeSantis and the Democrats, and it uses it

00:14:35.140 against them, namely that they're really slick and attractive.

00:14:38.240 And it takes their slickness and their attractiveness and makes it seem creepy.

00:14:45.160 It makes it seem like they're turning that on children.

00:14:48.280 It makes them look like groomers.

00:14:50.300 It makes Gavin Newsom look like he is luring kids to disobey their parents, come to California, 0.98

00:14:56.180 and have weird sexual procedures performed on them, which is what he's doing.

00:14:59.980 That's an entirely honest, true attack. 0.87

00:15:03.520 And all of a sudden, the slick guy who looks like kind of a Don Giovanni looks like a total 0.98

00:15:08.720 freaking creep. 0.65

00:15:10.160 So then it gets down to the closing arguments that they're going to make.

00:15:15.240 Ron DeSantis, with discipline, comes back to a closing argument that the Republicans

00:15:19.800 should hammer again and again.

00:15:23.600 Yes, he's in decline.

00:15:25.940 Yes, it's a danger to the country.

00:15:27.420 He has no business running for president.

00:15:29.460 And, you know, Gavin Newsom agrees with that.

00:15:31.040 He won't say that.

00:15:31.720 That's why he's running his shadow campaign.

00:15:34.200 He should not be running.

00:15:36.120 He is not up to the job.

00:15:37.940 And it is dangerous for this country.

00:15:39.540 Well, I'll take I will take Joe Biden at 100 versus Ron DeSantis any day of the week

00:15:45.480 at any age.

00:15:46.360 In fact, all of you think you think he's up to the job.

00:15:49.100 You think he's 100 percent?

00:15:50.160 I've been spending plenty of time with Joe Biden in public.

00:15:55.220 DeSantis is saying, look, my opponent here and all the Democrats, they say they think

00:15:59.340 Biden's up to the job.

00:16:00.660 And but you don't.

00:16:01.620 And just look at the public opinion polling.

00:16:03.760 All the Republicans, all the independents and a lot of Democrats all agree.

00:16:07.840 Maybe most Democrats at this point agree.

00:16:10.020 Joe Biden is obviously not up to the job.

00:16:12.680 I never really liked the guy. 0.56

00:16:13.780 But even if you did like the guy, he he is in serious mental decline.

00:16:18.840 He exhibits that every single day.

00:16:20.540 It is a danger to the country.

00:16:21.880 It's caused national crises.

00:16:23.360 It's causing international incidents.

00:16:25.900 We all know it.

00:16:27.040 And so when you hammer that home, not only does it make the Democrat look bad, not only 0.98

00:16:31.820 does it incline people to vote for a Republican, but it also shows the Democrats to be liars

00:16:36.340 because they're saying something.

00:16:37.960 Joe Biden's fine.

00:16:38.820 He's doing great.

00:16:39.520 He's totally competent.

00:16:41.000 They're saying something that everybody knows is a lie and that everybody knows that everybody

00:16:47.000 knows is a lie.

00:16:48.520 Very good closing argument.

00:16:50.000 And the way you know, maybe the biggest reason that I would give the win last night to Ron

00:16:54.760 DeSantis is because DeSantis demolished Newsom's arguments so devastatingly that Newsom had to

00:17:03.720 return for his closing argument to absolute piffle, meaningless platitudes.

00:17:09.300 We all want to be loved.

00:17:11.020 We need to be loved.

00:17:11.800 We all want to be protected, respected and connected.

00:17:13.820 I think there is a unity frame here.

00:17:16.140 You said it.

00:17:17.320 Well, I mean, Ron, I have no doubt Ron DeSantis loves this country.

00:17:21.620 I love this country.

00:17:22.260 It's not about red versus blue.

00:17:23.800 It's red, white and blue.

00:17:25.660 The United States of America.

00:17:27.080 And I think we're all better off and we're all better off.

00:17:28.920 And so I appreciate this conversation.

00:17:31.520 I appreciate you, Ron, being a family man.

00:17:34.420 You've got three incredible kids.

00:17:36.340 I appreciate your wife, your sacrifice, and I appreciate your military service.

00:17:40.520 But I also appreciate we do have fundamental differences about the fate and future of this

00:17:43.920 country.

00:17:44.320 And that's why I'm going to be working so hard to get Joe Biden and Kamala Harris reelected

00:17:48.840 in 2024.

00:17:50.360 Whoa, total.

00:17:51.520 That guy had nothing.

00:17:53.480 That was like the love child of Patrick Bateman and Kamala Harris.

00:17:57.620 And they get to him, OK, closing argument, governor.

00:17:59.820 And he's thinking, shoot, every case I made tonight got knocked down.

00:18:04.360 DeSantis will exploit that.

00:18:06.840 Look, man, look, it's we're all we want to be loved and connected and directed and elected.

00:18:13.860 And man, we don't we do better when we do better.

00:18:16.180 Not where we do worse when we do worse.

00:18:17.880 You know, it's not.

00:18:18.900 And then the best line of all of the meaningless little rap.

00:18:22.920 Was it's not it's not about red versus blue.

00:18:25.740 It's red, white and blue, which is the lamest rewrite, copycat Barack Obama impression I've 0.98

00:18:33.100 ever seen. 1.00

00:18:36.200 Obama, I also thought this was a stupid line from Obama, but it worked. 0.99

00:18:39.920 He said, listen, there's not a red America, not a blue America or the United States of 1.00

00:18:46.100 America.

00:18:47.200 And that was the moment that everyone decided this guy was going to be the first black 0.72

00:18:50.540 president.

00:18:50.920 He was going to be this unity candidate who spoke in these glowing and vague terms, hope

00:18:56.120 and change.

00:18:57.140 Well, that doesn't really work anymore.

00:19:00.140 Newsom is not nearly as inspiring a candidate as Barack Obama.

00:19:03.980 And it's been played out and all this hope and change, the the not a red, not a blue, just

00:19:13.240 a red, white and blue.

00:19:13.980 This stuff was exposed as being meaningless for eight years under the Obama administration.

00:19:19.800 This is Gavin Newsom got called on by the teacher and he hadn't done the reading and

00:19:26.780 he didn't have an answer to the teacher's question because the teacher, Ron DeSantis, had

00:19:31.040 already had already dissected all of his arguments and he just rambled, rambled into nothing.

00:19:37.580 So all of that to say, really good debate for DeSantis and not going to change anything

00:19:42.780 about this race.

00:19:43.640 But the one good thing that could come out of this is assuming that Trump remains the

00:19:51.280 leader of the pack and is the nominee, he should take notes because if you coupled that debate

00:19:57.360 performance just on paper, the debate strategies, the talking points, the attacks.

00:20:03.800 If you coupled that with a little more humor, a little more charisma, a little bit of that

00:20:13.220 je ne sais quoi of President Covfefe, that would be a formidable strategy.

00:20:18.960 And it certainly would go a lot better than the debate against Joe Biden went back in 2020.

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00:22:42.620 Guys, this is serious.

00:22:44.520 Sports can be your pathway to a better life.

00:22:46.740 What, like yours?

00:22:48.320 Please don't steal my catalytic converter again.

00:22:50.540 Winning matters.

00:22:51.300 It's the key ingredient in becoming a winner.

00:22:53.580 Maybe you should try it sometime.

00:22:55.960 Are you going to move?

00:22:57.180 I am not.

00:23:00.700 Let's cut to the chase.

00:23:02.120 I know you're not a woman. 0.99

00:23:03.460 Hey, you don't know how he identifies. 0.93

00:23:05.800 If you can beat them.

00:23:06.840 What do you know about the U.S. Opens for the Global Games?

00:23:09.420 You want us to compete as winners.

00:23:11.400 $5,000 prizes.

00:23:12.740 My lover says you were a great coach back in the day.

00:23:14.880 Join.

00:23:15.580 This is the way the world is now.

00:23:17.000 My eight-year-old daughter told me all about it.

00:23:18.680 So a guy can become a girl with no physical changes at all. 0.92

00:23:22.840 Oh, that's called jigger fluid. 0.90

00:23:24.460 So I can be a woman on the court.

00:23:26.520 And a man in the bedroom.

00:23:28.420 I can't believe it.

00:23:29.520 Nice! 0.94

00:23:30.520 You mean when you're sleeping?

00:23:32.580 Yes.

00:23:33.700 Coach.

00:23:34.140 Alex, we could play basketball.

00:23:36.980 We'd have to get the whole team back together.

00:23:38.440 It's time.

00:23:39.260 We're in.

00:23:40.420 I'm in.

00:23:41.340 I'm in.

00:23:42.360 Duke Plank.

00:23:43.100 Lady Baldur.

00:23:44.600 Mount up.

00:23:47.820 You like a girl. 0.94

00:23:48.720 That's right.

00:23:49.420 I'm with her.

00:23:53.420 You're leaving my truth.

00:23:54.980 This is my truth.

00:23:56.140 Day one of being a girl athlete.

00:24:02.200 I love being a girl.

00:24:04.460 To She-Rose. 0.74

00:24:05.620 We could dominate every woman's sport. 1.00

00:24:08.540 Running.

00:24:09.360 Swimming.

00:24:10.020 Soccer.

00:24:10.700 I said sport feelings.

00:24:14.480 It's ladies basketball, boys.

00:24:17.140 Nobody watches.

00:24:17.820 Excuse me.

00:24:21.460 Are these seats open?

00:24:23.400 Never mind.

00:24:25.100 Getting dunks.

00:24:30.880 And tucking trunks.

00:24:36.500 You know she didn't. 0.99

00:24:42.880 That's the biggest s**t I've ever seen on a lady. 1.00

00:24:45.920 I don't care. 0.99

00:24:46.540 Lady Baldur.

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00:25:35.820 My favorite comment yesterday is from Mind Martyr, who says,

00:25:38.640 This is why Elon is one of the most cutthroat, successful businessmen alive.

00:25:44.660 My father worked with him personally for years.

00:25:46.360 He does not F around.

00:25:47.400 Oh, interesting.

00:25:48.080 Yeah, I mean, I would imagine that this guy is pretty sharp.

00:25:53.480 And I've been skeptical of a lot of Elon Musk projects before.

00:25:57.180 But the one thing I would say is, it's not a good idea to bet against Elon Musk.

00:26:03.780 That guy can pull a rabbit out of a hat.

00:26:06.080 And so Twitter, which was already slated to go bankrupt before he got there,

00:26:10.500 and now he's totally mixed everything around and changed the rules, changed the name.

00:26:17.360 Some people are saying it's going to be the end of Twitter.

00:26:20.240 Maybe it will be.

00:26:21.260 But I would not bet against Elon Musk.

00:26:22.980 Okay, turning from the DeSantis-Nusom undercard debate to the top of the ticket.

00:26:30.340 A BLM activist, a co-founder of a BLM chapter, is endorsing Donald Trump.

00:26:37.060 We've been used and abused for so long at that party.

00:26:39.860 They don't value our vote.

00:26:41.560 Their policies are basically racist policies.

00:26:46.420 And I believe it's a racist party.

00:26:48.080 Donald Trump, he's the opposite.

00:26:49.640 He's going to tell you how it is.

00:26:51.580 He's going to give it to you straight.

00:26:52.360 Trump has done more for the black community than any president I can think of in my lifetime.

00:26:58.820 And he's not alone in his criticism.

00:27:01.080 President Biden faces dismal approval numbers among black voters in key swing states.

00:27:06.420 Joining us now, the co-founder of Black Lives Matter Rhode Island, Mark Fisher.

00:27:09.980 Mark, thanks so much for joining the program.

00:27:12.600 This is my favorite story of the day because it identifies with what I've seen in the barbershop.

00:27:18.760 All the brothers, for some reason right now, are turning tides right now.

00:27:23.480 And I just wonder, what is the big reason?

00:27:25.580 I think personally, it's the duplicity of the Democrats. 0.99

00:27:32.040 The hypocrisy. 1.00

00:27:33.540 We're not stupid. 1.00

00:27:34.680 The brothers are not stupid. 0.90

00:27:35.960 We understand when someone's for us and when someone is not. 0.96

00:27:38.740 Okay, so this guy is saying, look, I used to be a big BLM supporter, but now I'm supporting Donald Trump.

00:27:47.060 The way that Trump's opponents in the Republican Party are framing this is that Trump is embracing BLM.

00:27:53.220 That's not really the case.

00:27:54.380 This guy, Mark Fisher, is saying, yeah, I'm not really a BLM activist anymore. 0.68

00:27:59.200 I left the left because they're racist and they're not helping black people, and the black people now are all going to start voting for Republicans.

00:28:09.640 I hope this is the case. 0.89

00:28:11.640 I hope this happens.

00:28:12.880 I'm not holding my breath for it because I've heard this just about every single election cycle of my lifetime.

00:28:18.020 I've heard this is going to be the one where the Democrats lose the black vote and it moves in a big swing to the Republicans.

00:28:24.880 And it never happens.

00:28:26.180 It never, ever happens.

00:28:27.180 The Democrats keep a roughly 90% hold on the black vote.

00:28:31.500 And I'm looking at the same polling that everybody else is.

00:28:34.560 I agree.

00:28:35.400 Right now in the polling, you're seeing a big swing among black voters, especially among black men toward the Republican Party, toward Trump. 0.90

00:28:43.020 I agree that if any candidate is going to shake up the demographic voting patterns, it's going to be Trump because he's a weirdo, because he doesn't fit the mold of the old Republican politicians.

00:28:52.320 So there's a decent enough chance that the voters are going to break that mold, too, for him.

00:28:58.820 I'm just not holding my breath for it.

00:29:00.720 But that's not even why I bring up this story.

00:29:02.700 I bring up this story because of what I think is a fairly dishonest attack on Trump.

00:29:06.280 And it's the headline, Trump embraces BLM, because he sent out this post on Truth Social.

00:29:12.920 Spoke with Mark Fisher yesterday, a great guy, very honored to have his and BLM's support.

00:29:19.360 I've done more for black people than any other president, Lincoln, in parentheses, Lincoln, including 10-year funding for historically black colleges and universities where they had none, opportunity zones, criminal justice reform, and much more.

00:29:32.020 So I see why people are accusing Trump of embracing BLM, but I think that this post on Truth Social is a Rorschach test.

00:29:47.780 I don't think it really tells you any new information about Trump.

00:29:51.640 I think this is a Rorschach test for whether or not you like Trump or you just hate Trump.

00:29:56.340 That's what it's really about, because one way of reading it is Donald Trump is honored to have BLM's support.

00:30:03.620 This guy's a leftist.

00:30:05.120 He's a radical, I don't know.

00:30:07.080 The other way to read this is Donald Trump is a funny guy who's doing a little bit of trolling and making a joke.

00:30:14.360 I think it's pretty clearly the latter.

00:30:16.740 Here's my evidence, because one sentence after he says he's honored to have, first of all, because he doesn't have BLM's support, because this guy left BLM, and BLM no longer recognizes him.

00:30:26.340 So I see that as a fact that is a little trollish.

00:30:30.180 The very next sentence, Trump says, I've done more for black people than any other president.

00:30:34.580 Now, the obvious response to that is, well, Lincoln freed the slaves.

00:30:38.220 Are you, Donald, really saying that you've done more than Abraham Lincoln?

00:30:42.640 And Trump, he's not even unaware of that.

00:30:44.940 He acknowledges that in this jokey way in the tweet.

00:30:48.060 I've done more than any other president for black people.

00:30:51.560 Lincoln?

00:30:52.720 Question mark.

00:30:54.440 Not even, okay, other than Abraham Lincoln.

00:30:56.340 No, no, he says, no, I've actually, I think I've done more for black people, even than the president who freed the slaves.

00:31:02.660 I don't, I think he's joking.

00:31:05.480 I think the 40-year entertainer who had a top show on network television and has been an entertaining comedic figure for almost half a century now, I think he knows how to tell a joke.

00:31:19.060 Now, he cites certain things here that I don't like.

00:31:21.200 The criminal justice reform, that jailbreak bill, I did not like that.

00:31:24.160 That was a bad policy.

00:31:25.840 So I grant that there is sometimes a little bit of a mixed bag here.

00:31:30.580 But I guess, I guess that's even my broader point to why this tweet or this truth social post doesn't upset me.

00:31:36.660 We have, in the case of Trump, a record to look at.

00:31:42.840 Does anybody really believe that Donald Trump is going to invite BLM to the White House?

00:31:48.780 We're going to have Secretary of State Patrice Cullors? 0.96

00:31:53.120 Secretary of the Interior Alicia Garza?

00:31:55.580 I don't think so.

00:31:56.180 Trump very clearly stood against that kind of radicalism, obviously.

00:32:03.180 But he speaks in ways that are kind of ambiguous and often just funny on the campaign trail.

00:32:07.300 What I would compare this to is when Donald Trump waved the LGBT flag on the campaign trail.

00:32:15.040 You remember that?

00:32:15.960 LGBT for Trump.

00:32:16.800 And he actually had the flag upside down because he obviously doesn't care about that issue at all.

00:32:20.420 And a lot of people, a lot of conservatives said, this guy, he's a radical pro-LGBT candidate.

00:32:26.160 He's a big leftist.

00:32:27.560 How could conservatives even consider endorsing him or voting for him?

00:32:32.560 And what some people said at the time was, yeah, he's just happy to take people's votes.

00:32:36.740 But he's not going to be a pro-LGBT rights activism president or whatever.

00:32:41.360 And then he wasn't.

00:32:42.220 He gets into office and he immediately reverses Barack Obama's insane decision to promote transgenderism in the military.

00:32:49.100 He was just an ordinary president.

00:32:51.180 He promoted conservative judges to the courts.

00:32:53.600 He didn't, he wasn't that.

00:32:54.980 He talked in one way on the campaign trail that was weaponized ambiguity, that won votes, that got attention.

00:33:03.080 And then he governed in a way that was basically solid.

00:33:07.260 And that is what I think we're seeing here with Mr. Trump and BLM. 0.70

00:33:13.720 Now, who is Elon Musk going to vote for for president?

00:33:17.280 Well, in a lot of elections, it's not so much who you vote for as who you vote against.

00:33:25.280 Do you see yourself voting for President Biden?

00:33:28.060 If it's a Biden-Trump election, for example?

00:33:30.840 I think I would not vote for Biden.

00:33:39.000 You'd vote for Trump.

00:33:40.340 I'm not saying I'd vote for Trump, but I mean, this is definitely a difficult choice here.

00:33:48.560 Would you vote for Nikki Haley?

00:33:51.180 Nikki Haley, by the way, wants all social media names to be exposed, as you know.

00:33:58.000 No, I think that's outrageous.

00:34:00.040 Yeah, no, I'm not going to vote for some pro-censorship candidate.

00:34:04.680 Oh, it's going to be a difficult choice.

00:34:06.940 I guess, I don't know.

00:34:08.840 I'm not going to vote for Biden.

00:34:10.720 I'm not going to vote for Nikki Haley, he says.

00:34:13.620 So what do we conclude from this?

00:34:16.800 It means that, look, maybe he'll just vote for Trump and he's just trying to be cagey about it.

00:34:20.800 But I think Elon is expressing something deeper here, which is that he opposes the old consensus.

00:34:30.280 And Nikki Haley, fairly or unfairly, has become a representative of the old consensus.

00:34:36.820 She just got the big endorsement of the Koch network.

00:34:39.180 The Koch network used to be the force in Republican politics.

00:34:43.920 It's still a major force, but since 2016, things have changed a little bit.

00:34:48.080 The alternately neoconservative and libertarian talking points that once drove the Republican Party, they've fallen out of favor.

00:34:57.660 The shades of conservatism of the Bush years, or even alternately, the Paul Ryan, you know, fiscal hawk, just cut spending years.

00:35:11.380 They're kind of over.

00:35:14.540 Likewise, Joe Biden certainly represents the old consensus because he was around at the founding of the country, and I think he signed the Declaration of Independence.

00:35:21.140 Elon Musk is saying, no, anyone who represents the policies of 20 years ago, or in Biden's case, you know, 300 years ago, I'm not voting for that person.

00:35:34.560 We need someone to shake things up.

00:35:37.820 And I think a lot of people feel that way.

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00:37:17.460 Take it away.

00:37:19.200 Hey, Michael.

00:37:20.100 Hope you're doing well, and I hope you had a happy Thanksgiving.

00:37:22.140 My question is more on, can you give me advice on something?

00:37:28.320 I have been with my fiancé for about three years, and we're due to be married in June.

00:37:34.840 I am currently looking into becoming a Catholic, and there's a parish near me that does do the RCIA all year round.

00:37:44.480 And I am looking into that, but he just basically is stagnant in his relationship with God, which is not something that I want.

00:37:56.300 He doesn't try to move forward in virtue or reading the Bible or anything like that.

00:38:01.620 And I feel like that's a very important part of any relationship, is to center it around God.

00:38:07.800 And I don't really know what to do.

00:38:10.260 There are some other things that have to do with finance and everything like that that he goes backwards on instead of moving forward and trying to get better.

00:38:19.200 It's like he's going backwards.

00:38:20.540 He says that if I become Catholic, he'll become Catholic, but he's doing it mostly just so that we can be together and to please me, I think.

00:38:34.580 And that's not what I want.

00:38:36.380 And so any advice will be helpful.

00:38:38.040 Thank you.

00:38:38.840 You know the advice that you want.

00:38:41.500 You're not asking me for the advice that you think you're asking me for.

00:38:48.140 You don't want to marry this guy.

00:38:49.820 You're making that quite clear. 1.00

00:38:51.840 You're saying, yeah, this guy, he's a complete loser. 1.00

00:38:54.920 He's a loaf. 1.00

00:38:56.920 He's not virtuous at all. 1.00

00:38:59.020 He's a coward. 1.00

00:39:00.360 He's a cuck. 1.00

00:39:00.920 He's a weakling. 1.00

00:39:02.100 Yeah, he's financially irresponsible. 1.00

00:39:04.120 He's just a total loser. 0.99

00:39:06.300 So what do you think I should do, Michael? 1.00

00:39:09.000 I don't know whether he's a loser or not.

00:39:11.120 All I know is what you just told me. 0.96

00:39:13.720 But what I do know is that you don't want to marry this guy.

00:39:16.900 And you're asking me for permission to break up with him.

00:39:20.800 Well, if you want to break up with him, break up with him.

00:39:22.940 You don't need my permission.

00:39:24.140 You don't need anybody else's permission for that.

00:39:25.800 You're not married yet.

00:39:27.000 So just break up with him.

00:39:28.180 If you don't want to break up with him, then I think what you have to identify is that your issue here is not just exactly how he's approaching religion.

00:39:40.520 Look, I was an atheist for 10 years.

00:39:41.780 People can take circuitous routes back home to the church and to a right relationship with God.

00:39:49.880 But everything you're complaining about with regard to your boyfriend right now gets to a deeper issue, which I guess ultimately is religious because it comes down to Genesis 3.

00:39:58.360 And that's basically that your boyfriend doesn't want to take a leadership role in the relationship.

00:40:05.560 He just wants to be a loaf and a follower and just do whatever you do and not have to grow up and act like a man.

00:40:14.140 So that's the problem.

00:40:16.040 And if you do want to fix the relationship and end up getting married to him, you got to just tell him to act like a man and shape up and be a leader or else, you know, go find someone else.

00:40:28.740 Because you're going to dump that zero and get yourself a hero, girl.

00:40:31.740 You know, like that's really what you're saying here.

00:40:34.440 But from the way you're talking about it, you're not saying, look, I love him.

00:40:38.120 He's just such a wonderful man.

00:40:40.360 He tries his best. 0.98

00:40:41.900 But no, you're saying this guy's just a total loser and I don't really like him.

00:40:44.960 Am I allowed to break up with him, please, Michael? 0.63

00:40:47.080 Yeah, sure.

00:40:47.920 Okay, fine.

00:40:49.780 And the reason probably that you feel that way about him is because of that failure of leadership. 0.79

00:40:56.960 Women don't want some guy who's going to be a little wimp or a simp. 1.00

00:41:00.620 No woman wants that. 1.00

00:41:02.020 So if you want to keep him around, I would just get right to the heart of the matter.

00:41:06.500 Look, sweet little Elisa has had to do this to me. 0.67

00:41:09.960 Not to quite the extreme that you're describing here with your boyfriend.

00:41:15.520 But, you know, a much shallower way, but still meaningful.

00:41:20.420 On Friday nights, when we're trying to figure out what to eat, I don't know, whenever we want to go out to eat, Elisa says,

00:41:27.720 Mac, what do you want to have for dinner?

00:41:29.240 And I say, I don't know, what do you want to have for dinner?

00:41:30.660 I don't know.

00:41:32.920 We could do Italian.

00:41:34.240 Yeah.

00:41:34.840 I don't know.

00:41:35.100 We could do Indian.

00:41:36.020 Yeah.

00:41:37.300 We could do, I don't know, we could get sushi.

00:41:40.100 Yeah.

00:41:41.240 What do you want?

00:41:42.100 I don't know.

00:41:42.440 What do you want?

00:41:43.040 What do you want?

00:41:43.760 I don't know.

00:41:44.040 What do you want?

00:41:44.840 Mac, you're the man.

00:41:45.700 Make a decision.

00:41:46.680 Head of household.

00:41:47.420 Genesis chapter 3.

00:41:49.500 Man up.

00:41:50.520 That's the answer.

00:41:52.380 I say, oh, sorry, girl.

00:41:53.220 You know what?

00:41:53.520 You're right.

00:41:54.480 We're getting sushi.

00:41:55.740 You're right.

00:41:56.300 I got to act like a man.

00:41:57.920 So I would tell him that.

00:41:59.560 Or just dump him if you really don't like him at all.

00:42:02.540 Next question.

00:42:04.560 Hey there, Smokey Mike.

00:42:06.540 This is Based Cigar Enjoyer.

00:42:09.200 I had a theological question.

00:42:10.820 The Bible frequently references God's wrath.

00:42:16.460 And I was wondering how this should be understood.

00:42:20.280 Because wrath is a sin, of course.

00:42:23.940 It's one of the seven deadly sins, famously.

00:42:25.680 And I was wondering if it's the case that it's not a sin for God because God is perfectly free in his nature.

00:42:34.380 Or if it's more a matter of there being a misunderstanding of the word wrath.

00:42:41.960 Or maybe not a broad enough understanding of the word wrath in different situations.

00:42:46.760 Similar to how pride can also mean filial love for your country or something like that.

00:42:52.860 Or if it's maybe a mix of both.

00:42:54.580 Or something else I'm not seeing.

00:42:56.740 Thank you.

00:42:57.940 It's not just because God is perfectly free.

00:43:01.360 But I think more so because God is perfectly good.

00:43:04.280 So wrath is excessive anger or passion or vengeance.

00:43:10.560 But nothing is excessive for God because God is infinite.

00:43:17.520 So how about pride?

00:43:19.440 Well, let's go to the deadliest of the seven deadly sins.

00:43:21.500 Can God be prideful?

00:43:22.960 God can't be prideful.

00:43:24.240 Because pride is excessive love of one's own excellence.

00:43:27.340 But God is infinitely excellent.

00:43:30.060 And God is omniscient.

00:43:32.400 So it's not that he's ignorant of his own infinite excellence.

00:43:36.160 He does know it.

00:43:37.600 So is he prideful?

00:43:38.520 Well, no, he can't be prideful because he can't excessively love his own excellence.

00:43:43.120 Because his excellence is infinite.

00:43:45.680 And his love is infinite too.

00:43:47.480 So likewise with wrath.

00:43:50.520 Wrath is a deadly sin for human beings because it is excessive and because it is vengeful.

00:43:58.940 And vengeance belongs to the Lord.

00:44:00.380 So for human beings, when we take vengeance into our own hands and when we fall into excess,

00:44:07.240 that would be sinful.

00:44:08.520 But vengeance properly belongs to the Lord.

00:44:11.160 And God cannot fall into excess because he's infinite and perfectly good.

00:44:16.680 So it's a sin for us because these behaviors, this kind of anger that you're referring to with wrath is, in our case, conditioned by sin.

00:44:31.020 For God, of course, not at all conditioned by sin because God is perfect and without sin.

00:44:35.000 Next question.

00:44:35.460 Hey, Dirty Mike, Mr. Reality here.

00:44:38.520 I wanted to ask you a question regarding your sex robot topic from Monday about how once they perfect AI and these robots, then no one's going to get married and have kids and the species is going to die out because everyone's going to be busy with their robots.

00:44:52.540 My question is, do you think this could actually lead to a return to older traditions of arranged marriages where people married other people who they didn't really love, they didn't want to be with just to have heirs and propagate their line?

00:45:06.840 And then they'll just go play with their robots most of the time and just do that to propagate the line.

00:45:12.380 Do you think that's a possibility or do you think it's just going to be the end of civilization as we know it and everyone's going to eventually die out?

00:45:20.320 And why do you think that?

00:45:21.340 Thanks.

00:45:21.840 These are both extreme scenarios, but if it's going to be one of them, it's going to be the latter.

00:45:25.920 And the reason is that our birth rate problem right now already exists.

00:45:31.120 We're already a dying civilization.

00:45:32.680 We don't even have the hot, sexy AI sex robots yet.

00:45:37.640 And I think probably in Japan, they already have.

00:45:39.900 Japan's always technologically just a little ahead. 0.97

00:45:42.160 But we're already in that conundrum.

00:45:48.300 And the reason we're in that conundrum is because we can't plan for the future because we've taken an anti-historical view of politics.

00:45:56.800 We hate our forebears.

00:45:58.640 We have taken an undisciplined approach to politics.

00:46:02.580 We hate disciplining the appetite to cultivate the rational will.

00:46:07.720 So because of that, we spend every dollar we get.

00:46:12.120 In fact, we spend dollars that we don't have.

00:46:14.120 We're a nation that is deeply indebted and we borrow from our biggest geopolitical adversary in order to fund our rampant spending.

00:46:20.560 As Patrick Deneen, the conservative political philosopher, pointed out, the inheritance that we now leave to our children politically is nothing but a mountain of debt.

00:46:30.780 We don't have kids because we want to go to brunch more often or we want to just go on lots of fun vacations or we want to pursue our career without any thought to anyone else, marriage or certainly not kids.

00:46:44.560 So we replace kids with dogs if we're going to replace it with any living being at all.

00:46:49.940 And that's a problem right now.

00:46:51.520 You can't blame a lot on the weird AI sex robots. 0.73

00:46:53.940 You can't blame that.

00:46:55.920 And that problem doesn't seem to be getting better anytime soon.

00:46:58.500 Next question.

00:47:00.020 Dear Executive Grassy Knowles, this is Murder of Crows here.

00:47:03.520 If you don't mind, I'd like to borrow your Nostradamus hat for just a moment.

00:47:07.340 I envision a stage with two equally spaced podiums, two governors approach from either side.

00:47:13.000 One governor walks past his podium to center stage and says,

00:47:17.220 Hello, my name is Ron DeSantis and I'm a real presidential candidate.

00:47:21.700 If you would like to learn about any of my presidential platforms or donate to my candidacy, please go to rondesantisisawesome.com. 0.97

00:47:29.700 If you would like to continue to live in the hellhole that is California, please continue to listen to the fool over my shoulder. 0.93

00:47:36.920 Thank you for your time and good night. 0.98

00:47:39.140 As he leaves the stage, the governor flips Mussolini the bird and says,

00:47:44.800 Get bent.

00:47:45.680 Any thoughts?

00:47:47.280 My thought is a lot of people have these really nice fan fiction scenarios about their preferred candidates who aren't doing well.

00:47:56.520 And I say this as someone who really, really likes Newsom and who spent the entire first half of my show talking about how great.

00:48:01.080 No, I really don't like Newsom, pardon.

00:48:03.280 I really like DeSantis.

00:48:04.360 And I spent the entire first half of my show talking about how great DeSantis is and how well he did in the debate.

00:48:09.660 But that being said, he has not been an effective presidential candidate.

00:48:13.780 He's been a bad presidential candidate.

00:48:15.420 And the reason he's been a bad presidential candidate, the way we know that for a fact, is that he's not on track to be the nominee.

00:48:22.480 He isn't improving his numbers.

00:48:24.200 He isn't connecting with new groups of voters.

00:48:25.880 So even though I like him, and I think he's done a great job as governor, and I think that he did well in that debate last night, that doesn't matter.

00:48:35.800 My preferences for the sort of things a candidate says and does in office don't necessarily constitute what makes a good presidential candidate.

00:48:47.980 And so then people come up with all this fan fiction of, well, but actually imagine if DeSantis did this, imagine this.

00:48:54.560 Right, you have to imagine because it's not happening in real life.

00:48:58.080 And Trump, love him or hate him, he has been an effective presidential candidate.

00:49:03.440 Even not returning to the White House in 2020, in 2021.

00:49:12.180 Even whatever happened in the 2020 election, even granted that.

00:49:16.180 He won.

00:49:16.600 He won in 2016.

00:49:17.820 He won the presidency at least one time.

00:49:20.200 And he was a very effective candidate.

00:49:22.320 Everyone underestimated him and he connected.

00:49:23.800 So, you know, you don't really need the fiction with that guy.

00:49:27.220 Can he do it again?

00:49:28.380 Can he repeat 2016 again?

00:49:29.600 I don't know.

00:49:30.060 Some people are skeptical of that.

00:49:31.340 But if you're in the fan fiction world, it's because in reality your candidate is not doing very well.

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The Michael Knowles Show - December 01, 2023

Ep. 1382 - DeSantis Vs Newsom Debate Summarized In 2 Minutes

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