The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 14 - Safe-Space Foreclosures： Colleges Pay Price For Coddling

00:00:00.000 Two years after Mizzou caved to random student protests and demands for its president to resign,

00:00:06.320 the university is reporting a 35% drop in enrollment and other huge consequences.

00:00:11.860 We'll analyze the costs of coddling.

00:00:14.320 Plus, roaming millennial Antonia Okafor and conservative millennial Allie Stuckey

00:00:19.280 on an all-woman panel of deplorables to talk Afghanistan, 0.76

00:00:23.600 the health effects of a mean boss on employee health, and Steve Mnuchin's rich wife.

00:00:27.940 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:38.260 So we all remember the Mizzou protests of 2015.

00:00:42.600 They actually were that far, far ago, 2015, 2016.

00:00:46.220 And the student body president, Peyton Head, started this all because he posted on Facebook

00:00:50.880 about an incident that happened to him.

00:00:53.060 He was walking down the street, apparently, and some guys in the back of a pickup truck

00:00:57.300 yelled a racial slur at him.

00:01:00.300 He posts this on Facebook.

00:01:02.140 All hell breaks loose.

00:01:04.000 There are massive protests all over the campus.

00:01:07.660 Now, five days later, by the way, the chancellor of Mizzou apologized.

00:01:10.920 He addressed this incident specifically.

00:01:12.800 He said it's totally unacceptable.

00:01:14.440 Doesn't matter.

00:01:15.020 The protests have already started.

00:01:16.180 I think five days after that, or a week after that, another student, Jonathan Butler, decided

00:01:22.080 to go on a hunger strike.

00:01:24.160 And then students were insisting that the president resign, send a formal letter acknowledging

00:01:29.520 his white male privilege.

00:01:32.140 Ultimately, the chancellor had to resign.

00:01:34.040 And ironically, one of the reasons for the hunger strike was also that graduate students had

00:01:39.760 some issue with their health insurance that was caused by Obamacare.

00:01:43.780 So instead of protesting the government, which I'm sure all of them supported, they decided

00:01:47.460 to protest their own university.

00:01:49.220 But the straw that broke the camel's back is that the football team stopped practicing.

00:01:53.620 Football team brings in all the money to Mizzou.

00:01:55.900 So at that point, the president apologizes.

00:01:58.280 That's not enough.

00:01:58.920 The chancellor of the university apologizes.

00:02:01.720 Just absolutely, the university just implodes because of a Facebook post and these students

00:02:07.200 protesting, we're not really quite sure what, a variety of incidents of bias and prejudice

00:02:13.900 or what have you.

00:02:15.120 Now, the most famous incident of this, of course, was the professor Melissa Click.

00:02:20.720 Some student journalists showed up to one of the protests and this professor, this little

00:02:26.200 professor comes out of nowhere and starts yelling at them.

00:02:28.920 Tells them to leave.

00:02:29.880 I think, actually, we have the video.

00:02:33.540 Hi, media.

00:02:34.320 Can I talk to you?

00:02:35.280 No, you need to get out.

00:02:36.960 You need to get out.

00:02:38.100 No, I don't.

00:02:39.420 You need to get out.

00:02:40.960 I actually don't.

00:02:41.800 All right.

00:02:42.500 Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here? 0.97

00:02:45.680 I need some muscle over here.

00:02:48.520 You need to back up if you're with the media.

00:02:50.840 You need to back up.

00:02:52.580 Behind those signs, that's what those signs say.

00:02:54.160 You need to back up, respect the students back up.

00:02:57.520 I am a student.

00:02:58.440 I have a job to you, and I do my job.

00:03:00.300 They must help you to respect their space.

00:03:02.740 Move back here.

00:03:03.360 These students are...

00:03:03.960 I'm not pushing now.

00:03:06.120 Okay, well, then we will just block you. 1.00

00:03:08.860 You need to stab the body here now. 0.99

00:03:12.680 Students, can you tell him how much time I have to go? 0.99

00:03:14.220 You don't have a right to take our photos.

00:03:15.860 Go, go, go, go, go.

00:03:18.080 It's the state of First Amendment that protects you.

00:03:21.060 You stand here.

00:03:22.080 Go, go, go, go, go.

00:03:23.040 No, I do, I do have the right to take photos.

00:03:26.260 Go, go, go, go, go.

00:03:27.000 Reporters, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.

00:03:30.700 You think it's funny?

00:03:32.060 I have a job to you.

00:03:34.580 I'm documenting this.

00:03:35.860 Now, I understand why you're confused, you see.

00:03:38.780 Because today, all we hear about is how important reporters are.

00:03:41.420 how attacks on journalism are threatening our democracy. The Washington Post says democracy

00:03:46.300 dies in darkness. I understand your confusion. The difference is that now a Republican is

00:03:51.540 president. You see, when a Republican is president, then the news media are the most

00:03:56.700 important people in the country. They speak truth to power. They hold people accountable.

00:04:01.020 But this is very different than when Democrats are in the White House. When Democrats are in

00:04:05.240 the White House, reporters need to go away and professors call in muscle to beat them up and 0.99

00:04:10.240 get them out of student protests. So eventually, eventually, Melissa Klick, this professor,

00:04:15.880 was fired. And finally, it actually took a while to get her fired. And then she did an

00:04:21.520 interview a little bit later. Now, was she remorseful?

00:04:24.500 Were you appalled by your behavior when you watched the video?

00:04:28.780 I was embarrassed by my behavior. I believe it doesn't represent who I am as a person.

00:04:34.380 It doesn't represent the good I was doing there that day. And certainly, I wish I could do it

00:04:39.680 over again. He introduced himself only as media and came at me with a camera.

00:04:45.360 That's a camera, not a weapon.

00:04:47.500 Sure. But it also wasn't a big camera. It could have been a phone-sized camera. It wasn't a,

00:04:55.240 again, didn't say professional journalist to me.

00:04:57.940 Is calling for muscle out here respectful?

00:05:00.480 It was a mistake. I never, ever meant that as a call for violence. It's just one of those things

00:05:06.920 that was said in a heated moment.

00:05:09.780 Yeah, I didn't think that bring some muscle over here was a call for violence. When are muscles 0.71

00:05:14.960 ever associated with violence? And I also love in her apology, in her quasi-apology,

00:05:20.500 almost apology, she says that the trouble with the video was it doesn't represent the good that

00:05:26.020 I was doing. You people just don't understand the good. And the reason she kicked the reporter out,

00:05:31.200 it's not because he's a reporter. It's because she didn't know if he was a total hack. She didn't

00:05:35.680 have a big CBS camera with them or ABC or New York Times. So she wasn't sure that they would give

00:05:42.580 favorable coverage to the protest. It could have been one of those dreadful right-wing journalists.

00:05:47.540 So what is the result of all of this? At Mizzou, this is just being reported today because Mizzou is a

00:05:53.840 public university, so they have to report these things. Freshman enrollment is down 35%. This is

00:05:59.760 a massive drop. Overall enrollment down 2,000. This is the lowest enrollment since 1999. Unbelievable.

00:06:07.460 Seven dorms at Mizzou have been taken out of service. Seven dormitory buildings, no longer in

00:06:13.180 service because they don't have people to fill them up. They've laid off 100 staff. They're going to cut

00:06:17.360 300 more through attrition and through retirement. They've already cut library staff, although I assume

00:06:23.120 that nobody at that university is using a library anymore. They cut 50 workers last year already in

00:06:28.160 maintenance and grounds crew. And it turns out that letting the lunatics run the asylum is not the 0.81

00:06:34.240 best idea. And this isn't only at Mizzou. This has happened all over the country. Sadly, this happened at my 0.97

00:06:39.840 university, Yale as well. In 2015, a campus organization sent out an email detailing which Halloween costumes the

00:06:48.080 students could wear and which they couldn't wear. So then a separate professor sent an email out

00:06:53.520 clarifying and saying, you know, perhaps it's the case that Yale students are adult enough to choose

00:06:58.240 their own clothing, to choose their own Halloween costumes. This also set off an insane reaction on

00:07:04.480 campus. And it prompted this response famously. Other people have rights too, not just walk away.

00:07:09.920 Walk away, walk away, walk away, walk away, walk away, walk away, he doesn't deserve to be

00:07:13.760 listened to him. He doesn't deserve to be listened to him. He doesn't deserve to be listened to him.

00:07:14.960 He doesn't deserve to be listened to him. He doesn't deserve to be listened to him.

00:07:16.160 I did not-

00:07:16.960 Stay quiet! For all Sillman students. You understand that? As your position as master,

00:07:22.640 it is your job to create a place of comfort and home for the students that live in Sillman.

00:07:28.000 You have not done that. By sending out that email, that goes against your position as master,

00:07:33.600 do you understand that? No, I don't agree with that. Then why the did you accept the position?

00:07:39.120 Because I have- Who the hired you? I have a different vision. You should step down. If that is

00:07:43.840 what you think about being a master, you should step down. It is not about creating an intellectual

00:07:48.720 space. It is not. Do you understand that? It's about creating a home here. You are not doing that.

00:07:55.600 You are supposed to be our advocate. You should be at the event last night when you hear Afroko say 1.00

00:08:01.760 that she didn't know how to create a space space for her freshman in Sillman. How do you explain that?

00:08:07.280 These freshmen are coming and they think this is what Yale is? Do you hear that? They're going to leave.

00:08:13.280 They're going to transfer because you are a poor steward of the community.

00:08:18.080 Oh, that is so painful to watch. I remember the first time I saw that,

00:08:22.240 Michael. It is a scar. It is unbelievable. There is also this irony to it. She says,

00:08:28.960 who the F hired you? It turns out her name is Gerilyn Luther. She was on the committee that

00:08:33.360 appointed him to that position. She hired him, which is really great. Absolutely unbelievable.

00:08:40.400 It is not about creating an intellectual space on campus. It is about making me feel comfortable and

00:08:45.040 safe and God knows what else. What did the Yale administration do? Surely that student was expelled.

00:08:51.680 Surely her friends were expelled. Surely they burned her dorm to the ground, right? No,

00:08:56.640 they pushed those professors out of their jobs. Those professors are no longer at Yale. The

00:09:01.520 administration did nothing to support them. And some of the students who were seen protesting there

00:09:06.080 received awards at graduation. So, Yale is the only Ivy League school this year to report an increased

00:09:14.400 acceptance rate. Now, unlike Mizzou, Yale doesn't need to disclose its records. So we don't really

00:09:20.000 know what's hidden in there. But it's the only one of these universities to report that it increased

00:09:25.440 the rate of the number of students that it took in this year. One wonders if part of the reason for

00:09:30.160 that is they didn't know how many people would say no. When you very often, if you apply to Yale,

00:09:34.720 you're also applying to Harvard or Princeton or Dartmouth or whatever. And they might have,

00:09:39.520 it seems to me, perfectly reasonable that they increased that rate because they thought that

00:09:43.840 there would be a backlash to this. And if we knew what their records were, I think probably we would

00:09:47.760 see that. I was back at Yale a couple months ago. Every student, regardless of political affiliation,

00:09:52.400 all of the alumni, they were disgusted by what was going on and the failure of the administration.

00:09:57.040 Now, not all universities are like this. There is a magical university in Indiana called Purdue.

00:10:03.200 And the former governor there, Mitch Daniels, he's the president of Purdue. There was some of this

00:10:09.120 craziness that happened on campus around the time that this was happening at Mizzou and at Yale.

00:10:13.200 And he invited the social justice club of students into his office. They said to him specifically,

00:10:19.040 this is not a negotiation. Here are our demands. His response to them was,

00:10:23.520 you're right about one thing. This is not a negotiation. He essentially told these kids

00:10:28.720 to sit down and shut up and do their schoolwork and try to graduate. After he took that strong

00:10:35.120 stance, you never heard from these kids again. U Chicago is another great school.

00:10:41.440 In their letter to freshmen students, in their letter to incoming students,

00:10:44.960 they took this on, they preempted this whole issue. Quote,

00:10:48.960 our commitment to academic freedom means that we do not support so-called trigger warnings.

00:10:53.600 We do not cancel invited speakers because their topics might prove controversial. And we do not

00:10:57.680 condone the creation of intellectual safe spaces where individuals can retreat from ideas and

00:11:03.680 perspectives at odds with their own. Wonderful defense of the academy out of University of Chicago,

00:11:10.960 of intellectual freedom there. And we haven't heard a peep from them since. Turns out,

00:11:15.200 when the adults stand up to these kids, they sit down and listen. Now, as long as these elite

00:11:20.640 universities are going to cave to students, I think they're going to expect more damage to

00:11:24.640 their bottom line, just like we can see at Mizzou and we can infer from Yale. And we're going to see

00:11:29.360 a next generation of allegedly educated Americans who look like this.

00:11:32.960 Stop talking to us. Like why are you talking to us like children? I can't. I can't imagine. I love that video so much. It's so

00:11:38.880 stop talking to us like why are you talking to us like children i can't

00:12:00.480 i can't imagine i love that video so much it's so awful but i love it so much okay with that

00:12:06.240 we have to bring on our panel i am so lucky today i've been asking for this since the show started

00:12:10.960 and we finally have an all-woman panel of deplorables we have roaming millennial 1.00

00:12:15.120 conservative millennial ali stuckey and antonia okafor how wonderful now we were all in college

00:12:22.000 relatively recently ali what is the best strategy to stop all of the nonsense on campus okay i'm so

00:12:29.600 sorry but i have not heard anything that we've talked about for the past three minutes and so

00:12:33.920 i'm still going to need like a little more context i have no idea what this conversation has been so

00:12:38.240 far that's fair enough you know i've been here for the last three minutes and i still don't really

00:12:43.680 know what's causing all of it uh we're talking about the craziness on college campuses the triply

00:12:48.720 puffs yeah and how we know that this the universities that have been successful are the ones that have

00:12:55.920 put their foot down and stopped these kids from wreaking havoc so why aren't the other universities

00:13:00.400 like yale and mizzou why don't they have adults step up and even just to protect their own jobs 0.66

00:13:06.880 well i think it's the scariness that identity politics presents because it's not really become

00:13:12.080 about what's logical what's right what's wrong anymore it used to just kind of be a given that

00:13:16.320 if you were in a position of authority you get to dictate what a student does or does not do but now

00:13:22.240 our identities are so tied to these ideas of being tolerant or being empathetic or compassionate all of

00:13:28.080 these words that liberals have completely monopolized that we're almost scared to assert any kind of

00:13:33.520 definition of right or wrong because everything's relative everything is subjective and it just

00:13:39.360 creates this kind of atmosphere and environment of anarchy and that's exactly what we're seeing at

00:13:43.920 places like mizzou at yale at harvard when there is no truth everyone lives in this post-truth world

00:13:50.720 um and you see the behavior follow suit unfortunately that absolutely and there is also this identity

00:13:58.720 issue of the professor and the student those used to be identities that you would have on campus

00:14:03.600 and as a student your professor was your better but now there is a notion that we have these other

00:14:09.200 intersectional identities that gives some kid the right to shriek profanities at her professor 0.89

00:14:14.720 yes yes absolutely and you're right the idea of authority has even been blurred every line of

00:14:23.840 identity has been blurred whether you're talking about gender roles or politics but especially this

00:14:27.760 idea of authority and it used to be that questioning authority was a good thing somewhere where you could

00:14:33.280 you could go to a college and you would be intellectually challenged but now instead of going into a classroom

00:14:39.120 and expecting to be intellectually challenged by a professor you are intellectually coddled um and 0.66

00:14:44.800 so not only are we skewing this idea of authority when it comes to administration being able to tell us

00:14:49.600 what's right or what's wrong but also when we walk into a classroom as a liberal millennial we expect to be

00:14:55.920 able to tell our professors what they should be able to tell us um we the students are the ones who now

00:15:01.760 dictate okay this is what i want to hear this is what i want to learn if you say anything outside of what i

00:15:06.400 already believe i'm gonna protest and cry about it right the teachers are learning from their students

00:15:11.760 right that's the the teachers are there just to learn from these students i know i agree with

00:15:16.320 these blurring identities even just these glasses have dramatically blurred the difference in identity

00:15:22.000 between me and rachel maddow antonia you are a campus carry activist so if these kids are incapable of

00:15:29.440 choosing their own halloween costumes without bursting into tears and throwing temper tantrums isn't that the

00:15:34.720 best argument yet to keep guns out of their hands uh i can't tell you how many times i you know i was

00:15:42.320 covering in campus issues campus reform i was a campus reform correspondent with leadership institute

00:15:47.760 before the campus carry activists um and it's really hard to know what's going on on college campuses

00:15:55.520 and then at the same time say well they're not children uh they're adults and just they can actually

00:16:01.520 take care of themselves now i will say though the people who are going to actually have a gun on campus

00:16:07.280 uh they're not these you know liberal snowflakes i'm going to say that um they're most likely not

00:16:12.080 going to have a gun they don't want a gun and they don't want me to have a gun either so i will

00:16:16.800 differentiate between those two because most of the time um it's someone who's responsible who can

00:16:22.000 take someone else's opinion and accept it and not use their firearm to um to handle the situation

00:16:29.680 like these professors believe it's going to happen um it has not happened yet so yeah with that whole

00:16:35.680 conversation i think it comes down to um being an adult obviously we're taking these people because

00:16:42.000 they think that just because they are intellectually mature enough um they're also emotionally mature

00:16:48.480 enough i don't i think that needs to be a part of the equation when they're accepting people and of

00:16:52.560 course the the kids who are going to be bringing guns and who are going to be responsible enough to have a

00:16:58.080 conceal carry permit are probably not these kids having temper tantrums over their chicken fingers

00:17:03.600 but perhaps you know people they always say is there any responsible gun control legislation that you

00:17:08.720 would support and absolutely that i would support making sure those kids don't get guns i don't want

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00:18:24.080 last night president trump gave a bombshell speech luckily he was not blinded from looking at the

00:18:30.960 eclipse yesterday which is such a wonderful trumpian move they tell you don't look at the eclipse he just

00:18:36.400 stares right at it stares down that fake news media totally fine didn't go blind so he gives this

00:18:41.760 speech last night to announce his new strategy in afghanistan let's play it the american people are

00:18:48.720 weary of war without victory nowhere is this more evident than with the war in afghanistan my original

00:18:59.360 instinct was to pull out and historically i like following my instincts but all my life i've heard

00:19:09.840 that decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in the oval office the consequences

00:19:18.960 of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable we will not talk about numbers of troops

00:19:29.040 or our plans for further military activities conditions on the ground not arbitrary timetables

00:19:37.600 will guide our strategy from now on now breitbart under the new leadership the new old leadership

00:19:46.320 of recently departed white house strategist steve bannon is hammering trump for this they're blaming

00:19:51.680 this on mcmaster they're saying that this is more similar to barack obama's strategy than to some new

00:19:58.240 plan uh roaming is this the beginning of the long-awaited left-wing turn for president trump

00:20:04.480 well this is something that i actually feel really conflicted about so i'm very much not a neoconservative

00:20:11.280 uh i don't believe that we should be exporting democracy i don't believe that we should be nation

00:20:15.040 building and that's something that president trump campaigned against and you know to be fair that

00:20:18.880 it's something that he said that we weren't going to be doing in this speech right he said this is not

00:20:23.760 going to be nation building however sounds a lot like nature building um which is which is hard

00:20:29.920 because you know if you actually listen to what the generals are saying and you know obviously they

00:20:34.560 should know best about the situation they don't want a immediate and full withdrawal and you know

00:20:40.560 we see you looking at isis what happens when the u.s kind of leaves and creates a power vacuum in

00:20:46.880 these i think what we don't want right now is to take our really bad situation and create

00:20:51.360 you know isis part two so i mean it's hard because i feel like right now everyone is criticizing trump

00:20:59.280 right the left the right um there's this weird unity between the neocons the liberal war hawks right now

00:21:06.320 and then everyone else is kind of saying no and what makes everything about the spider's

00:21:10.720 right that he's not really telling us what the specifics are um so that's a kind of non-answer

00:21:16.320 question but i think that actually encompasses what people are feeling right now i totally understand

00:21:22.080 that and i agree i'm i'm not criticizing him for this just yet i'm not sure that this isn't a good

00:21:27.040 idea ali is anybody on the right happy with this strategy is there anybody out there who's supportive of

00:21:32.560 it lindsey graham i think there are a couple things that at least as a part of this speech there are

00:21:38.160 some conservatives that uh are satisfied with this is including myself one that he was strategically

00:21:45.040 shrewd he didn't talk about the number of troops he only talked about he mentioned victory four times

00:21:49.760 he only talked about one strategy uh that could lead us to victory and that is um being a little bit

00:21:56.320 harder on pakistan which i did appreciate and then i also appreciated that for really for maybe the first

00:22:03.760 time that he owned that he has evolved in a position from the time from before he took office

00:22:10.000 until now that he realized that being in the oval office making decisions is a little bit different

00:22:15.120 than making decisions on twitter from the outside i really appreciated that kind of peek into his humility

00:22:20.400 and it made me feel like whether you agree with his decision or not that he did very strategically

00:22:26.240 and very deliberately um think about the best strategy going forward and something else that i

00:22:32.480 appreciated about this that i think other conservatives appreciate too i know paul ryan said it in his

00:22:37.120 town hall that we don't want all of this work for the past 16 years that we've done in afghanistan to

00:22:43.280 be completely in vain um i don't know exactly what the catastrophic results would be if we completely pulled

00:22:49.680 out that kind of seems like the the easiest or the best thing to do right now however however we don't

00:22:56.880 want to forsake the goal that we had when we went in in the first place we don't want it all to be for

00:23:02.000 not so i appreciated those parts of it whether or not you agree with the strategy and that's a great

00:23:07.280 observation about him changing his mind and kind of admitting to it he's obviously changed his mind

00:23:12.560 before but this is the first time he said i looked at this a little more closely and my views on this

00:23:17.520 have changed i suppose that's that's a change from barack obama and also he hasn't offered timetables

00:23:23.520 and a big sign that says terrorists come in in two two and a half months because he he won't let them

00:23:29.200 know when we're going to pull our troops out but you raise a good question what is the point here

00:23:33.840 antonia what what are we doing we've been in afghanistan for 150 000 years what is the end of

00:23:39.280 this war what does victory look like i think that's the whole problem here is that people never knew

00:23:46.960 what the end looks like and so people you know barack obama um when he decided okay let's pull out

00:23:54.160 well most people didn't like the idea that our actual military had some semblance of foreign policy

00:24:00.400 they didn't see that in history working out um and then also strategically that didn't work didn't work

00:24:05.280 out anyways because we see like what happened in iraq that didn't work out well um you know places like

00:24:11.600 or people like isis just took that place when we left so um or when some when a foreign um a foreign

00:24:19.520 country left so i think it's that people are upset with that but more on the libertarian side i think a

00:24:26.160 lot of libertarians are upset just because that was the one thing with donald trump that they could

00:24:31.840 you know get behind you know that he was going to finally leave uh we were going to stop the nation

00:24:37.280 building i mean i also think that there's a lot of criticism still with him saying that it's not

00:24:41.600 nation building that it's you know it's um eliminating terrorists i think a lot of libertarians

00:24:47.120 are still believe that's still nation building um so i think with the conservatarians the young

00:24:53.360 generation that tend to lean more libertarian especially on this issue i mean he's gonna have

00:24:58.480 a hard time and in the future it's gonna be brought up when he is running for president again of course and

00:25:05.360 much like his predecessor who ran against war he uh it's a little more complicated with barack obama

00:25:10.960 because he decided that iraq was a bad war and afghanistan was a good war for some reason

00:25:15.200 but much like his predecessor who ran against war it seems that president trump when he looks at

00:25:20.400 geopolitics is understanding that we need to have a military presence in more places that he would

00:25:25.920 perhaps prefer roaming is this just more obama are we getting barack obama's third term in foreign policy

00:25:33.040 well i certainly hope not and like ali mentioned the fact that he is keeping some things that are

00:25:40.800 more strategic private you know not announcing to our enemies hey bt dubs if you just sit tight until

00:25:46.960 this date we'll be gone so you can you know kind of do whatever you want i think that is an improvement

00:25:53.120 however um you know whether it's obama or bush i think the the us in terms of its military presence

00:25:59.680 right now has hasn't been able to kick the urge to engage in nation building and what's funny is

00:26:05.120 that if we look at places like europe post-world war two or you know even south korea there are

00:26:11.600 success stories of nation nation building you know it can be done but the thing is it takes decades it's

00:26:17.760 not a four-year thing it's not a six-year thing as we've seen in afghanistan it's not even a 16-year

00:26:22.080 thing so i think trump when he's looking at this he really needs to ask himself

00:26:25.920 how long does he think the american people need to be committed to supporting afghanistan i mean

00:26:32.160 obviously obama thought longer like he said before for some reason iraq that was decided

00:26:37.680 well but that's something that the president actually needs to ask himself because i mean if

00:26:41.920 he doesn't end it now i there's a very small chance the next president is going to end it if we look at

00:26:46.800 what's happened for the past 16 years and they don't even have oil that's the worst part we can't

00:26:51.600 even take the oil it's sad right what's the point so a new survey out of rand is showing that two

00:26:57.680 thirds of u.s workers experience mismatch between their desired working environment and their actual

00:27:03.440 working environment the uk found uh found that a supportive boss can cut down the amount of hostile

00:27:10.240 workplace interactions by half now this reminded me of an appearance i made on the ben shapiro show

00:27:16.640 can we play that four hundred dollars for michael moles i gave him four to one odds uh for a hundred

00:27:23.600 dollars and i'm gonna write i'm gonna write here in the data line for ignoring data

00:27:32.800 and then i'm gonna just hand this over you we'll take a picture for the cameras really incredible there

00:27:36.800 we go thank you absolutely i've been wondering why my health has been feeling like that i guess

00:27:52.560 i gotta talk to ben about that maybe i'll go to a doctor now it occurs to me that all of us spend

00:27:57.440 most of our work days talking into a camera but that means probably that we have no expertise on

00:28:02.640 this issue at all and that has never stopped us at the michael knowles show from pontificating about

00:28:07.120 something so ally is work getting harder or are workers getting softer okay that's a great question

00:28:14.160 but let me tell you the part of this article that bothered me the most and maybe you're going to get

00:28:18.800 to this so i'm sorry if i'm jumping the gun i defer to you in all things that bothered me the most was

00:28:25.120 that it looked at okay is it better to be in a job where you're not happy or this unhealthy work

00:28:31.040 environment or is it better to be totally unemployed i think it's i think it's that the

00:28:37.600 worker is getting softer because what the argument that they made is that it's not necessarily worse

00:28:42.720 to have no job that you might be psychologically better off not having a job and living off your

00:28:48.560 welfare check than actually making money for yourself that is so sad to me that that is our

00:28:54.080 highest priority that people are psychologically content and happy and that they're not challenged at

00:28:58.960 all whether they have a job or not that they're actually almost encouraging unemployment for your

00:29:04.320 well-being rather than making a living that's where our priorities are as a society and that makes me

00:29:10.080 really sad and they're not the first people to do this people have been talking a lot of tech giants

00:29:14.160 are talking about this but even conservatives like charles murray are talking about in our new

00:29:19.360 economy where we'll have more wealth generated by fewer people maybe we need a universal basic income

00:29:26.400 where people stay home and they get paid by the government not to work antonia is this an

00:29:31.840 argument for the universal basic income because i noticed that i can't sit around and drink martinis

00:29:36.480 here and watch reruns of all in the family but i can do that when i'm not working is that a good

00:29:40.800 argument oh yeah i still remember when i interned in the senate in 2014 and uh one of the committee

00:29:49.520 hearings they're like oh my gosh i'm so glad obamacare is happening now you know we only have to work 30

00:29:55.360 days a week now that you know that mom i think actually people talk about this too like that

00:29:59.680 mom who's been wanting to like start you know like that knit like that knitting business or something 1.00

00:30:04.640 can finally do that now she can finally do that because at 40 it was just too much for her um i put

00:30:10.560 my knitting business off for years exactly i mean everyone knows that's so 90s there's no profits in

00:30:17.360 that the margins are so slim um so exactly i mean that's the whole point is that people are rewarding

00:30:25.200 those who don't work um i think it's hard because we see people like mark zuckerberg and um you know

00:30:32.000 and bill gates and these people who and see jobs who if you look at their history they actually like

00:30:38.160 left school uh and use that free time in order to be able to to start their businesses i mean that's

00:30:45.360 great if you went to harvard or you know michael he went he went to yale i mean you can write books

00:30:50.000 where you don't actually do not encourage him luckily i was able to leave before all the triggly

00:30:54.720 puff and the shrieking happened so if that were going on i probably would have left too oh really

00:31:00.000 okay yeah we'll see i have a feeling that's not that's not what happened but this you and your like

00:31:07.360 i said before your ivy league privilege unless you have that ivy league privilege then you should be

00:31:12.480 working and working full time and stop lowering the the hours as if it's going to help anything

00:31:19.200 it's not if you don't have an idea by now it's it's probably not going to go into fruition

00:31:23.040 i remember sounds like you're trying to oppress the proletariat there i don't know about that

00:31:28.480 oh oh i i think i'm fine that's antonia's full-time job is just oppressing the proletariat 1.00

00:31:34.240 but this does remind me during the obamacare debates one of the arguments well i think nancy

00:31:39.040 pelosi said this that now you've always wanted to go be a poet but you have to do your job to

00:31:44.320 get health insurance and now you can you can finally be a poet and she must have forgotten that

00:31:50.320 all poetry now is terrible and most people are certainly terrible poets that it brings up this

00:31:56.800 interesting question from the earliest human civilizations until about five minutes ago work

00:32:02.800 was considered to be central to the human condition god makes adam work in the garden of eden

00:32:08.320 and now are we viewing work differently as a society roaming what do you think well actually

00:32:15.040 uh before i started youtube i was doing a lot of work in human resources management and strategic

00:32:20.000 leadership so this is actually something i have many many opinions about and if you look at a bunch

00:32:24.800 of surveys like like you said rand does some uh shurm also does some millennials look for way

00:32:31.120 different things than previous generations did right i mean millennials have a much higher standard in terms of

00:32:36.640 work-life balance they're also less technically loyal to companies right there's a lot more turnover

00:32:41.280 millennials aren't going to say i have no loyalty to the daily wire not one bit i'm taking i've sent

00:32:46.000 out my resumes every day exactly right we're in it for ourselves we'll take whichever job has the most

00:32:52.160 benefits and the least working hours and i think this is kind of a testament to capitalism the fact that

00:32:58.480 this is even possible due to you know different skills and labor sources but at the same time it has

00:33:04.720 made us especially us millennials very lazy and you know with this talk like you said about universal basic

00:33:12.080 income that's actually one of the worst ideas i've ever heard um like turning all money into plato is

00:33:18.480 as bad of an idea in my head like those those are equally equally crazy things that's true reminds me

00:33:24.880 during uh breaks from college or vacation from work or something for the first two or three days i'll

00:33:30.560 feel great and i'll drink my little martini and watch my own family reruns and i feel good my body feels

00:33:35.840 good by the third to fifth day i have melded with the couch i have become part leather and part cushion

00:33:43.680 and i can't move i'm on the brink of death there has to be something good for man about working i think

00:33:51.520 that's why that's why it's talked about in genesis but i don't know i don't when i am working i'd like

00:33:56.960 to be doing something else a terrible conflict in the heart of man speaking of people who've worked

00:34:02.640 a lot and made a lot of money treasury secretary steve mnuchin uh his wife the scottish actress louise

00:34:08.240 linton has gotten into instagram fights recently over her glamorous lifestyle and this is causing trouble 1.00

00:34:14.560 for steve uh i for one i'm shocked of course that an ex-goldman sachs now treasury secretary's

00:34:21.200 rich gorgeous actress wife might be out of touch with the american people but she wrote on instagram 1.00

00:34:27.280 quote do you think the u.s government paid for our honeymoon or personal travel la la la have you

00:34:32.240 given more to the economy than me and my husband either as an individual earner in taxes or in

00:34:36.640 self-sacrifice to your country i'm pretty sure we paid more taxes toward our day trip than you did

00:34:42.080 this was in response to some woman taking issue with her traveling on a plane for some business trip with 1.00

00:34:48.080 her husband ally does she have a point okay well i did not like i i don't like period people bragging

00:34:58.400 about their various possessions or their wealth on social media that's just a personal preference

00:35:02.960 especially when you hashtag all of your designers like i would love for like a common person like me

00:35:08.000 to do that like hashtag target hashtag walmart hashtag maybe yeah hashtag maybe hashtag gap to see what

00:35:14.240 people say so was this braggadocious absolutely was it kind of inappropriate and tactless for the wife 0.99

00:35:21.040 of um a government employee yes but she does have a point does the government pay for their personal

00:35:28.080 trips no does the government pay for their work trips yes this wasn't a day trip this wasn't a vacation

00:35:34.000 this was part of work and and yes we do pay for that um i mean i kind of like that she claps back a

00:35:40.560 little bit even though i didn't like her original post yeah i can see that antonia as a public

00:35:46.000 official and that that is the difference that ally's talking about the public life and the private

00:35:49.680 life but as a public official does steve mnuchin need to reign his wife in and reign his family in 1.00

00:35:55.600 or should we say that criticizing politicians family members is off limits and kind of stupid 0.98

00:36:02.160 well first i want to you know address this that ally has triggered me twice today first of all she is 1.00

00:36:08.560 wearing hoop earrings um second of all she does use clap back um so i i'm so sorry all right let's get

00:36:17.040 her arrested by the appropriation police this is i didn't even thank you for bringing that to my

00:36:20.800 attention antonia disgusting awesome awesome thank you ally we'll discuss this later on twitter

00:36:26.720 okay and i will get black twitter on you i will put black twitter on no no they're just not starting

00:36:33.200 to like me no they hate me so it's okay um but yeah basically it's the same thing i saw that uh what

00:36:40.880 the instagram uh post and i just think it really just shows the core of where unfortunately where our

00:36:47.680 society is going in america where we are so it's so easy for us to go and attack someone because they have

00:36:55.680 money like i'm actually disagree with ali i am okay with someone bragging why it's because it's

00:37:01.120 social media i mean everyone literally is a narcissist that's what it's made for right yeah

00:37:07.280 there to show how amazing i am or people are so um if she feels like she's amazing because she's just

00:37:13.840 dropping those like you know that that thousand or thousands please thousands on her uh for me's and 0.98

00:37:20.320 is that how you say it i don't know i don't have that bag but um all of those great designers

00:37:25.760 okay that's something for people to aspire to i love it when she's like oh what about those people

00:37:29.680 in africa okay let me talk to my mom um who's african who's nigerian and she's gonna be like yeah 0.86

00:37:36.320 that's the reason why i came to america so i could aspire to be like that person yeah that's why i moved

00:37:42.160 somewhere changed my life try absolutely the american dream i mean i think that still exists

00:37:49.120 so that's what i see when i when i hear stuff like that just why don't you look at it as something to

00:37:54.480 aspire to you know to to get out of i didn't you know my parents didn't come to america to be mediocre

00:38:00.560 so i mean that's the whole thing my family did they did explicitly aspire to mediocrity probably

00:38:05.600 the exception not the rule but uh different strokes for different folks roaming the one percent

00:38:11.360 of top one percent of income earners pay 50 of federal income taxes the top 20 of income earners

00:38:17.600 pay 85 of income taxes and that's a little bit what this woman was talking about how she pays much 1.00

00:38:23.760 more in taxes than the woman who's criticizing her should americans lay off the class envy and just be 1.00

00:38:30.560 happy that we don't have to pay a much higher tax burden because the rich pay all the taxes

00:38:35.600 definitely and don't get me wrong i thought her original post was not very humble not very weak

00:38:42.240 but you know that's one's comment i did i did think it kind of crossed the line right i mean like

00:38:47.440 i think her name louise mentioned they're independently wealthy right they haven't gained their wealth through

00:38:53.120 this government job uh her is not paid for by taxpayers so i don't really think it's in his business

00:39:00.080 that being said i think overall this story's kind of been hyped up but really it's just women being

00:39:05.120 catty on instagram it's nothing big that that's the only reason i log on to instagram is to watch

00:39:10.720 women be catty with one another but you're right it isn't like the clintons you know this is steve 1.00

00:39:15.120 mnuchin made his money as a banker and as a film producer louise his wife is a is a scottish film

00:39:21.760 actress so they it's not like they were just trading in government favors to make all of their money

00:39:26.320 right so you know this is a case where i think she was i think she handled it very poorly but

00:39:32.160 she's absolutely right she doesn't have to account to these strangers on the internet for her wardrobe

00:39:37.040 that she's purchased with her own money or her husband's own money i don't i don't know about

00:39:40.960 that yeah something tells me the latter but sure yeah it's there are there are a couple now man and

00:39:45.440 woman have joined together to make one flesh you do you louise that's that's what we say on our panel 1.00

00:39:50.560 okay i've got to say goodbye to the first and hopefully eternal all-female panel of deplorables 1.00

00:39:56.240 we have antonia okafor conservative millennial alay stuckey and roaming millennial now it is time

00:40:01.440 for my smart glasses and the final thought 1.00

00:40:09.040 college students have always acted like idiots since first causing trouble in 11th century bologna 0.99

00:40:15.280 even medieval university students were criticized for drunken debauchery and gambling and chasing 0.99

00:40:20.640 women of ill repute and ignoring their studies and oh god those bright college days i love them so much 0.95

00:40:26.720 the difference then of course and even until the past few years is that university administrators

00:40:31.680 used to stop the kiddies from pursuing their worst impulses there used to be adults in the room

00:40:37.040 unfortunately today the generation that broke american academia in the 1960s are now running the show

00:40:43.120 the lunatics are running the asylum and once great institutions of learning will continue to garner

00:40:48.720 lower and lower returns and the students that attend them will garner lower and lower returns

00:40:53.600 until the adults re-emerge to firmly defend order and rigor on campus with that i'm michael

00:40:59.120 knolls this is the michael knolls show come back tomorrow we'll do it all again

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The Michael Knowles Show - August 22, 2017

Ep. 14 - Safe-Space Foreclosures： Colleges Pay Price For Coddling

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