The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 1404 - Transgenderism Is Social Disease According To New Poll


Summary

Transgenderism is on the decline in South Dakota, which is good news for the people of that state, but also bad news for leftist ideologues who believe that politics is exclusively and eternally downstream of culture. Also, the final Iowa polls are in, and it's not looking good for DeSantis.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Gender dysphoria diagnoses have spiked in 49 out of 50 states between 2018 and 2022.
00:00:07.980 The only state that did not see a jump in boys thinking they're girls and girls thinking they're boys
00:00:13.040 was South Dakota, which actually saw a 23% decrease in gender dysphoria diagnoses.
00:00:20.200 So what gives? Is there something in the water in 47 out of the lower 48 plus Alaska and Hawaii?
00:00:27.320 Is there something special in the water in South Dakota?
00:00:31.500 Or is transgenderism not actually a medical reality, but rather an ideology and social contagion?
00:00:39.620 There is no evidence of any major differences in the water between South Dakota and the rest of the country,
00:00:44.600 but there is a difference in the laws.
00:00:47.020 South Dakota has not gotten on board with trans ideology.
00:00:50.840 In fact, last year, the state formally restricted trans medical mutilations for children.
00:00:57.320 A number of other states have issued similar bans, but unfortunately leftist activists on the courts and elsewhere
00:01:03.160 have prevented the bans from being enacted in most of them.
00:01:07.220 This is great news for the people of South Dakota.
00:01:10.240 Gender dysphoria, gender confusion, is a terrible condition that leads to all sorts of psychological problems.
00:01:16.400 And the supposed treatments are even worse.
00:01:18.620 Not only do the supposed gender-affirming treatments not resolve the psychological problems—depression, anxiety, suicidality—
00:01:27.160 but they add to them a whole host of physical problems that can leave patients sterile, crippled, and at risk of early death.
00:01:34.840 The story is bad news for the alternately misguided and perverted people peddling trans ideology.
00:01:41.880 But the story is also bad news for the well-meaning lowercase-l liberals who believe that politics is exclusively and eternally downstream of culture.
00:01:52.160 In this case, it isn't.
00:01:54.960 South Dakota refused to pass laws to encourage transgenderism and actively passed laws to discourage it.
00:02:03.060 And what do you know?
00:02:04.520 South Dakota is seeing less of this dangerous ideology.
00:02:07.980 That's because the law is a teacher.
00:02:11.820 And conservatives all across the country should learn the lesson.
00:02:15.660 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:02:16.540 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:02:17.440 Welcome back to the show.
00:02:38.740 Welcome to my home.
00:02:40.420 You know I broadcast from here every now and again.
00:02:42.280 It's kind of nice when the rest of the team at The Daily Wire wants to play hooky and they shut down my studio.
00:02:47.440 It's snowy here in Nashville.
00:02:49.800 But it's caucus day.
00:02:51.740 We're not missing a show.
00:02:52.980 This is Iowa caucus day.
00:02:53.920 The first votes in the 2024 presidential race will be cast today.
00:02:58.700 Very, very exciting.
00:03:00.260 I think we probably know what the answer is going to be.
00:03:01.920 But anyway, very, very exciting.
00:03:04.700 Also, the other reason we couldn't take the show off today we had to broadcast is because a Zoomer girl has gone viral whining about getting fired from her job.
00:03:14.760 And so that's the sort of news that you've got to.
00:03:16.940 You cannot miss it, okay?
00:03:18.300 It actually does tell you something about the culture that somehow no one is talking about.
00:03:23.920 So we'll get to all of that.
00:03:25.440 First, though, the final Iowa caucus polls have Trump with the biggest lead that he has had yet.
00:03:34.860 Remember, the DeSantis campaign has staked the whole campaign on Iowa at this point.
00:03:40.920 Initially, they were running a nationwide race when things were looking quite good.
00:03:44.800 And DeSantis was the clear number two, at least.
00:03:47.040 Maybe he was able to challenge Trump.
00:03:48.900 The polls just didn't move.
00:03:51.200 It's not that DeSantis is a bad candidate.
00:03:53.420 It's not that he's a bad governor.
00:03:54.240 He's a great governor.
00:03:54.840 I really admire the guy.
00:03:55.640 I think he's great.
00:03:56.200 I think the campaign has made some missteps.
00:03:58.300 But even if it were the greatest campaign ever, I just didn't think it was in the cards, as I observed from the beginning.
00:04:04.540 And I hate to say I told you so.
00:04:06.380 So because of that, they put all of their resources in Iowa.
00:04:09.700 And it does not appear to have paid off.
00:04:12.440 This latest poll has come out.
00:04:15.660 Trump at 48%.
00:04:17.300 Haley at 20%.
00:04:19.880 So Trump's got a 28% lead, 28-point lead, over his next nearest rival.
00:04:25.680 Haley at 20% over DeSantis at 16% is pretty shocking.
00:04:29.980 I'm somewhat skeptical of that, that Haley is actually going to outperform DeSantis in Iowa.
00:04:34.660 I guess it could happen.
00:04:36.340 Vivek at 8%, which is considerably lower.
00:04:39.200 I still think pretty good numbers for a guy that no one had ever heard of a year ago.
00:04:43.720 I think he's done a very good job in this campaign.
00:04:46.900 And he's been able to not have himself be totally marginalized, like an Andrew Yang-type candidate, or even a Ron Paul-type of candidate.
00:04:56.700 He's avoided that.
00:04:57.840 He's a very sharp guy.
00:04:59.280 He's very disciplined.
00:05:00.500 And he might outperform even this poll.
00:05:03.520 Asa Hutchinson's still in it, 1%.
00:05:05.560 I didn't realize he was still in the race, but I guess he is.
00:05:08.920 And then there's a guy named Binkley.
00:05:10.620 He showed up on the poll.
00:05:11.960 I've never heard of Binkley.
00:05:13.760 But Binkley's in it.
00:05:15.000 And who knows?
00:05:15.440 Maybe he'll outperform and get a point and a half.
00:05:18.120 Who knows?
00:05:18.560 There could be a surprise.
00:05:19.480 It seems unlikely.
00:05:20.620 But we'll find out.
00:05:21.860 The votes will be cast right now.
00:05:23.300 Now, in the meantime, speaking of Trump and Vivek, the knock on Vivek for a lot of this campaign is that Vivek has been nothing but a stalking horse for Trump.
00:05:33.240 Vivek, he's been coordinating with the Trump campaign.
00:05:35.580 I never believed that, by the way.
00:05:38.060 In part because I know the guy.
00:05:40.040 And I know that he's pretty serious and principled.
00:05:44.000 And I know that he's very ambitious.
00:05:46.280 And I just didn't think he would run a race to carry water for some other guy.
00:05:49.880 And it turns out that Trump doesn't think that either.
00:05:52.500 Because Trump just came out and turned on Vivek.
00:05:54.920 He posted to his social media network, Truth Social.
00:05:58.400 He said, Vivek started his campaign as a great supporter, the best president in generations, etc.
00:06:04.440 Unfortunately, now all he does is disguise his support in the form of deceitful campaign tricks.
00:06:10.500 Very sly.
00:06:11.300 But a vote for Vivek is a vote for the other side.
00:06:14.300 Don't get duped by this.
00:06:16.100 Vote for Trump.
00:06:17.280 Don't waste your vote.
00:06:18.620 Vivek is not MAGA.
00:06:20.580 The Biden indictments against his political opponent will never be allowed in this country.
00:06:23.600 They're already beginning to fall.
00:06:25.100 MAGA!
00:06:26.020 Three exclamation points.
00:06:29.000 Vivek then responded to this in a way that was probably wise.
00:06:32.980 He didn't go for the jugular on Trump.
00:06:34.660 He seemed shocked almost.
00:06:37.640 He opens up.
00:06:38.540 He says, I don't think friendly fire is helpful right now.
00:06:40.720 And then he says, I've stood up against the persecutions against Trump.
00:06:44.500 And I've defended him at every step.
00:06:45.800 I showed up at the Miami courthouse in solidarity following his first federal indictment.
00:06:49.740 I filed a FOIA demand to the Biden DOJ.
00:06:51.900 I submitted an amicus brief this week with the U.S. Supreme Court calling to overturn Colorado's ruling to boot Trump off the ballot.
00:06:58.240 I pledged to remove myself from Maine's and Colorado's primary ballots if they remove Trump, calling on DeSantis and Haley to do the same.
00:07:03.560 You can hear it in Vivek's tweet.
00:07:04.960 He says, what gives, man?
00:07:06.980 I've been good to you.
00:07:07.920 I've been nice the whole time.
00:07:09.500 Yes, I'm running my own presidential campaign.
00:07:11.860 But why are you attacking me?
00:07:13.380 And it is deja vu all over again.
00:07:15.700 This is exactly what happened to Senator Cruz in 2016.
00:07:22.240 What happened in 2016, you'll recall, all the never-Trumpers and the libs and the whiny people, they spent all their energy complaining about Trump.
00:07:31.760 And Trump picked them off one by one, very easily.
00:07:35.780 The one candidate who did not really go after Trump or who went after him in a fairly moderate way, in part probably because he agreed with a lot of Trump's newly articulated conservative positions, was Senator Cruz.
00:07:49.940 But when it got down to the end and Cruz looked like he was maybe a real threat to Trump, Trump went for the jugular at Cruz.
00:07:58.120 He wasn't going to give Cruz a pass just because Cruz had been nice to him.
00:08:00.820 And the same thing is happening here with Vivek.
00:08:05.440 There is no evidence, no evidence, that Trump ever goes easy on people who challenge him in any way.
00:08:15.500 A lot of people thought it might happen.
00:08:17.020 Remember, Mitt Romney thought he was going to get Secretary of State under Trump.
00:08:20.000 And there was that infamous photo where they're having dinner and Romney just looks so uncomfortable and embarrassed.
00:08:25.080 And there's Trump eating his steak like just a complete animal, just loving every minute of it.
00:08:29.600 And even Christie, you know, Christie ran against Trump and then Trump brought Christie into the administration.
00:08:34.600 But he discarded him relatively quickly.
00:08:37.620 I think the same thing is happening to Vivek here.
00:08:41.640 Vivek has run a campaign that is pretty well aligned with Trump issues.
00:08:47.680 And he has been very nice to Trump.
00:08:49.580 And he could be a very strong ally of Trump.
00:08:52.040 But Trump plays to win all the time.
00:08:56.860 If you ever criticize the man, if you ever challenge him, even in a fairly moderate way, 8% in Iowa versus 48%, even that, he's going to hit you eventually.
00:09:08.680 And I think that's what's happening here.
00:09:11.020 Vivek is playing it as well as he possibly could.
00:09:13.300 But this was always going to happen.
00:09:15.540 Donald Trump has one objective at all times, and it is to win.
00:09:22.020 The man will survive.
00:09:24.240 He is a blunt force object.
00:09:25.920 And he's demonstrating that yet again in Iowa.
00:09:28.320 And we'll see if the voters respond to that.
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00:11:25.260 Meanwhile, the Democrats seem confident with Trump as the nominee.
00:11:31.320 Nancy Pelosi just came out.
00:11:33.740 And she said it is impossible.
00:11:38.020 Not unlikely.
00:11:39.720 Not crazy to think about.
00:11:41.960 Impossible for Trump to be president again.
00:11:44.300 This is a neck and neck race and no one feels very comfortable on the Democratic side of things that Donald Trump isn't going to be the next president.
00:11:52.820 Well, I don't think that nobody feels.
00:11:55.140 I think many of us know that it is impossible for him to be the president again.
00:12:00.740 Why do you say that?
00:12:01.660 Well, because when you're talking about what he's talking about now is more tax cuts for corporate America, taking them down so low to the detriment of our budget and meeting the needs of people.
00:12:14.660 But people have to know.
00:12:16.240 I have said over and over again, President Lincoln said public sentiment is everything.
00:12:21.760 With it, you can accomplish almost anything without it, practically nothing.
00:12:26.100 But public sentiment has to be informed.
00:12:29.220 People have to know.
00:12:30.860 You can see the backtrack happening in real time.
00:12:34.140 I can't tell if it's an intentional wink or if she said the quiet part out loud and then she had to backtrack.
00:12:43.000 But she contradicts herself there, doesn't she?
00:12:45.500 She opens up, she says, some of us in the political elite, we know it's impossible for Trump to be president again.
00:12:53.440 How is it impossible?
00:12:54.300 He already got elected president once.
00:12:58.680 It's impossible?
00:13:00.380 Well, no, it's impossible because of public sentiment is everything.
00:13:04.860 Yeah, yeah.
00:13:05.980 He's the most popular guy in the race.
00:13:08.700 He's not even the most popular guy in the Republican field, which he is by a long shot, according to every single poll.
00:13:13.580 He's more popular than Biden, according to most polls.
00:13:17.700 And way more popular than Bobby Kennedy Jr. and Cornel West and Jill Stein.
00:13:21.880 And so what are you talking about?
00:13:22.840 If public sentiment matters, then you should say it's impossible that Trump won't be president again if he's the nominee against Joe Biden.
00:13:31.620 Well, no, it's because all this stuff he's talking about with corporate tax cuts.
00:13:35.620 What are you?
00:13:36.060 What?
00:13:36.440 She's just reverting to the old Democrat talking points from 20 years ago.
00:13:40.680 Is Donald Trump even talking about corporate tax cuts?
00:13:43.280 Maybe tangentially.
00:13:44.420 I haven't even heard that on the campaign trail.
00:13:46.220 He's talking about we're going to build a border wall.
00:13:48.300 I'm going to get retribution against my enemies.
00:13:50.040 We're going to end all these stupid wars overseas.
00:13:52.080 We're going to fire 40,000 bureaucrats.
00:13:55.260 What do you mean?
00:13:56.580 Corporate tax cuts?
00:13:57.640 That's just a total reversion to the generic Democrat talking point against the generic Republican.
00:14:04.300 We know what she means when she says it's impossible for Trump to win again.
00:14:08.040 Those of us in the know, we know it's impossible.
00:14:10.360 What she's saying is we're going to prosecute him and throw him into jail.
00:14:13.840 And we're going to kick him off the ballot because he's too popular, because we can't beat him at the ballot.
00:14:19.620 It's going to be impossible because we will not allow the people to vote for him again.
00:14:24.360 That's what she's saying.
00:14:25.280 That's been my hesitation on the Trump nomination this whole time.
00:14:29.300 I don't endorse in the races.
00:14:31.500 As a general rule, you know I really like Donald Trump.
00:14:34.600 I like other guys in this race too.
00:14:36.200 I'm friends with some of the other guys in this race.
00:14:38.640 That's why I've stayed out of it.
00:14:40.720 One hesitation that I have had is that they might just not let him win again.
00:14:47.420 They might just kick him off the ballot or indict him or I don't know, they might assassinate him.
00:14:54.160 That'll be the last thing left to do.
00:14:56.160 And that's what she's saying.
00:14:58.460 If we want to give the woman credit, she's a very crafty politician.
00:15:01.500 That's what she's saying here.
00:15:02.320 She goes, don't worry, the guy's not going to be president.
00:15:05.840 Why is that?
00:15:06.680 Oh, oh, because of his wild rhetoric.
00:15:10.640 No, that's not what you're talking about at all, lady.
00:15:12.940 Or she just blurted it out.
00:15:14.300 Don't worry, we got this thing in the bag.
00:15:16.520 Don't worry, we're going to change the voting rules again.
00:15:19.340 Don't worry, the courts are on our side.
00:15:21.460 Don't worry, we're not going to let the people have a say.
00:15:24.120 Because we care so much about public opinion that we're not going to respect the public opinion in the race.
00:15:29.260 Okay, now speaking of vampires, much more important news story than who's going to be the next president.
00:15:35.220 Christian Stewart has come out to say that Twilight is, quote, such a gay movie.
00:15:42.700 I never saw Twilight.
00:15:43.840 I'm vaguely familiar with the plot.
00:15:46.320 The plot is that a lady falls in love with a guy.
00:15:49.180 Anybody's a vampire.
00:15:50.780 And then she falls in love with another guy.
00:15:53.040 And then she has a kid by the guys and she only ever engages in heterosexual relations.
00:15:59.320 But it's such a gay movie.
00:16:04.160 What's she saying?
00:16:05.480 I can only see it now, she says.
00:16:07.260 I don't think it necessarily started off that way.
00:16:09.320 But I think that the fact that I was there at all, it was percolating.
00:16:12.240 It's such a gay movie.
00:16:13.380 I mean, Taylor, Lautner, and Robert Pattison and me.
00:16:18.360 And it's so hidden and not okay.
00:16:20.480 I mean, a Mormon woman wrote this book.
00:16:22.640 It's all about oppression, about wanting what's going to destroy you.
00:16:26.740 That's very gothic, gay inclination that I love.
00:16:30.080 Whoa, hold on.
00:16:30.940 Is this woman a right-wing Republican?
00:16:33.440 Is this woman a social conservative now?
00:16:36.140 She's saying the reason that this movie is gay is because it's about desiring something that will destroy you.
00:16:41.800 That's right out of the Middle Ages.
00:16:46.820 She's saying the quiet part out loud, though.
00:16:49.660 She's saying that that is the essence of what it means to be gay or for a work of art to be gay, is that it has to be self-destructive.
00:16:58.340 That is a more aggressive and condemnatory statement about gay rights or LGBT than anything anyone has said on the right.
00:17:08.740 She goes on, though.
00:17:09.340 She goes, it's not that I wasn't scared about coming out.
00:17:12.180 Apparently, she's bisexual, which just means she's a liberal woman in 2024.
00:17:16.480 She says, it was just that there was no other way to live.
00:17:19.860 Every single woman that I've ever met in my whole life who ever kissed a girl in college is like, yeah, I mean, me too.
00:17:25.140 I'm constantly joking with my girlfriend.
00:17:26.840 I'll be sitting there and be like, she's gay, too.
00:17:28.620 Everyone's gay.
00:17:29.220 Everyone's gay.
00:17:29.600 They all think everyone's gay.
00:17:30.560 Okay.
00:17:33.360 I think she's right about Twilight.
00:17:35.120 Even though, as an exoteric message, as the actual plot of the story, from what I gather, never saw the movie, every single romantic relationship is heterosexual, I agree that the story itself is gay.
00:17:52.060 It gets to actually something that she talks about directly, but it gets to why sodomy is condemned traditionally in all the theistic religions and throughout our entire civilization.
00:18:06.880 I think today people think it's because people are just prejudiced or bigoted or we think the gays are icky or something like that.
00:18:16.980 But that's actually not why.
00:18:19.360 The reason why is because it is contrary to nature.
00:18:25.560 That's why.
00:18:26.040 That's what St. Thomas Aquinas said.
00:18:28.300 That's what the Scholastics believed.
00:18:29.740 That's what Christians and Jews and Muslims have believed.
00:18:33.180 That's what Dante believes.
00:18:34.660 You know, Dante, I always reference Dante.
00:18:37.400 I've got a little statue of Dante right there.
00:18:39.600 Dante in hell, in the inferno, puts the sodomites in the seventh circle.
00:18:46.080 And it's the circle of the violent.
00:18:48.720 And people don't really know why that is.
00:18:51.780 And it's not just that he puts them in the circle of the violent.
00:18:54.900 He puts them lower than the murderers and the suicides.
00:18:59.920 Dante says that sodomy, gay stuff, what we now call LGBT pride, is worse than murder and suicide, which is a little harsh, you know.
00:19:11.520 I mean, but what's his reasoning?
00:19:14.500 His reasoning is not that he hates gay guys or something.
00:19:18.240 In fact, the example he uses in the circle of the sodomites is his beloved teacher, Brunetto Latini.
00:19:24.160 And it's not even just about physical sex stuff.
00:19:27.520 It's also about art.
00:19:28.880 It's also about Brunetto Latini's poetry, his writing.
00:19:32.640 It's about an entire ethic, a way of viewing man's place in the world.
00:19:40.100 The reason, Dante says, is because murder is violence against your neighbor, right?
00:19:45.580 You go, you kill some guy.
00:19:47.160 The reason suicide is worse than that is because it's violence against yourself, which is even more contrary to nature than killing your neighbor.
00:19:56.700 And the reason Dante puts even his beloved teacher, Brunetto Latini, who he says is a sodomite, lower than that is because that is more contrary to nature still.
00:20:07.840 And it's more contrary to nature because it totally divorces the sexual act from the telos of the sexual act, the end of the sexual act.
00:20:16.780 It's totally sterile.
00:20:17.880 This is why in Dante, the punishment is these guys have to, well, they all walk around like a bunch of naked dudes walking around, which is probably not a punishment in the minds of a lot of these guys.
00:20:26.520 But where they're walking is on this burning hot surface, like the hottest desert surface you can possibly imagine, which is a symbol of the sterility of the act.
00:20:37.960 It's not a fruitful act.
00:20:39.660 And so if you were to put Dante aside for a second and you think of the way that Christians thought about this through the height of our civilization, you would take it even further.
00:20:50.080 You would say that the act being so contrary to nature would mean that maybe the worst sexual thing you could do is when it's not even between two people, is when it's even, you know, that thing that people do individually when they look at their computers and look at porn.
00:21:10.660 This is why the pornography epidemic is ultimately so terrible.
00:21:16.340 It's so contrary to nature.
00:21:17.340 And so getting back to Twilight, I think the reason why Kristen Stewart is making this point, I mean, she's making a point every bit as condemnatory of an identity that she holds for herself as St. Thomas Aquinas or Dante would, is for that very reason.
00:21:34.620 I mean, it's a vampire story.
00:21:37.620 What is a vampire story?
00:21:38.720 A vampire story is older people feeding on the young.
00:21:43.060 That is totally contrary to nature.
00:21:45.420 The way it's supposed to work is that the young feed on the old.
00:21:49.600 You know, a little baby feeds from his mother.
00:21:52.540 The elderly nourish and cultivate and expend their effort to bring up the young generation.
00:21:59.720 And then that goes on throughout the generations.
00:22:02.280 What a vampire story does is totally flip that.
00:22:05.480 That is what vampire stories are about.
00:22:07.540 And that's why they're so perverse.
00:22:08.980 It's an actual inversion of reality, totally, totally contrary to nature.
00:22:13.480 And it has all sorts of bad political effects, too.
00:22:17.980 Because if, you know, people are not fruitful and multiplying, then the political community dies.
00:22:22.880 You know, then people just aren't replacing themselves.
00:22:24.680 This, you know, I don't want to even go as far as Kristen Stewart is going here in her condemnation of the LGBT community.
00:22:34.700 Because the real way of taking this sexual ethic, which today seems so crazy, but was the sexual ethic that informed our civilization for 2,000 years, actually even longer than that.
00:22:47.120 The way to take it to its logical conclusion is to point out that the real extreme of it is the guys just looking at porn.
00:22:56.420 You know, completely divorcing the ends of sex from sex itself.
00:23:02.860 A form of violence, not just against your neighbor, not just against yourself, but against nature and against art and against God.
00:23:09.080 Let all who have ears to hear, let them hear.
00:23:11.820 It's going to be me and Kristen Stewart and Dante making this point.
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00:24:29.880 Speaking of liberal women, Jill Biden has come out to attack all those nasty, mean, terrible Republicans.
00:24:36.900 She says what we, writ large, are doing to poor Hunter, you know, holding him accountable for his many, many crimes, which are personal and drug-related and sex-related, sure, but more importantly, involve corruption, involve selling American influence, involve taking millions and millions of dollars from corrupt oligarchs around the world with implicit, maybe explicit promises of American state support as a result of this.
00:25:04.140 It's just total corruption. She says it's cruel.
00:25:07.480 How have you been coping personally with the onslaught of accusations against your husband and your family, including and especially Hunter?
00:25:16.140 It's the focus of a House Oversight Committee hearing, holding him in contempt, obsessing over him, showing pictures of him during vulnerable moments in his battle with addiction on the floor of the house.
00:25:28.820 This would crush any family.
00:25:30.680 Mika, I think what they are doing to Hunter is cruel, and I'm really proud of how Hunter has rebuilt his life after addiction.
00:25:43.300 You know, I love my son, and it's hurt my grandchildren, and that's what I'm so concerned about, that it's affecting their lives as well.
00:25:54.280 That's it. That's it.
00:25:55.820 That's it. That's it. I'm just so concerned, you know.
00:25:59.100 Sure, I would be concerned if I were a Biden, because it wasn't just Hunter.
00:26:03.960 It was Hunter's uncle, Joe's brother. It was Hunter's other uncle, Joe's other brother.
00:26:09.280 It was the whole rest of the family. Hunter was the bag man.
00:26:14.980 Hunter made payments to other members of the family.
00:26:17.900 So did Joe's brothers, and these guys made payments to Joe, and we have the receipts.
00:26:27.440 And Hunter wrote in his laptop and in text messages, yeah, I'm giving 10% to the big guy.
00:26:33.280 At one point, he suggests that he had to give 50% of the money he made to the big guy, the big guy being Joe Biden, as Joe Biden's brother pointed out.
00:26:41.240 What is Jill doing here? She's playing her part in the PR strategy.
00:26:48.480 There, obviously, is a very formal crisis communications campaign underway to rehabilitate Hunter to make him less of an issue for Joe in 2024.
00:26:58.720 That's why Hunter showed up to the Capitol.
00:27:00.500 He wouldn't go testify before Congress in the closed-door session, as he was called to do by the Congress of the United States.
00:27:06.200 He gave a press conference on the steps of the Capitol and talked about how he's just a poor guy who had a run of bad luck, and he deserves sympathy from everyone, and everyone's being so mean and cruel to him.
00:27:20.300 And then what did he do? He finally shows up, but he makes a big show of himself in a public hearing.
00:27:25.520 He won't go to the private hearing to answer basic questions about his business.
00:27:28.740 And then Joe comes out, and she does the same thing.
00:27:31.580 It's a very well-laid-out, very particular PR strategy.
00:27:36.360 I just don't think it works in this age that we're living in where everyone films everything.
00:27:42.240 Hunter Biden didn't just commit the crimes with some receipts where we kind of heard about it, where we have good evidence that he did it.
00:27:47.900 He filmed himself doing it.
00:27:50.360 All the personal, kind of just dodgy crimes of passion and incontinence, he filmed all of it.
00:27:57.260 We all saw way more of that than anybody wanted to see.
00:28:01.300 And he sent all the texts, and we got the emails, and we got, we can actually see it all happening in real time.
00:28:08.640 I don't think it's going to work.
00:28:10.300 Now, Hunter Biden, had he not taken a ton of money from crook oligarchs overseas, had he not been conducting business with the Chinese Communist Party, maybe they'd let it go.
00:28:20.820 But you can't overlook that.
00:28:23.040 So speaking of doing business with communists, the Holy Father has raised some eyebrows because Pope Francis has welcomed a group of Marxists and talked about how wonderful it is to have dialogue between Christians and Marxists.
00:28:41.320 It is not in my job description to criticize the Holy Father.
00:28:48.060 I might raise some questions, though.
00:28:50.520 Here's what the Pope said.
00:28:51.820 I'm pleased to welcome you, the representatives of Dialope, who for many years have been committed to promoting the common good through dialogue between socialists slash Marxists and Christians.
00:29:01.100 A fine program.
00:29:02.940 I would like to commend you.
00:29:05.140 Commend to you three attitudes that I consider helpful to your efforts.
00:29:07.660 First, have the courage to break the mold, to be open in dialogue to new ways.
00:29:11.280 Instead of rigid approaches that divide, let us cultivate with open hearts discussion and listening and not exclude anyone at the political, social, or religious level.
00:29:19.760 Second, concern for the less fortunate.
00:29:21.660 Sure, that's great.
00:29:22.500 Finally, the rule of law.
00:29:23.680 Dear friends, I thank you for your commitment to dialogue.
00:29:25.900 Okay, I'm a little confused here because many, many popes for nearly 100 years now, coming up on it, have in no uncertain terms condemned communism and socialism and said that Christianity can have nothing to do with socialism and Marxism.
00:29:48.240 Blessed Pope Pius IX and qui pluribus in 1846, all the way back, said communism as it is called is a doctrine most opposed to the very natural law.
00:29:56.680 Speaking of natural law.
00:29:58.260 For if this doctrine were accepted, the complete destruction of everyone's laws, government, property, and even to human society itself would follow.
00:30:04.040 Well, you might say, that's just one pope, right?
00:30:05.720 No, no, it's not just one pope.
00:30:06.680 Pope Leo XIII in 1901 says, a harvest of misery is before our eyes and the dreadful projects of the most disastrous national upheavals are threatening us from the growing power of the socialistic movement.
00:30:18.440 Okay, Pope Benedict XV, 1914, it is not our intention here to repeat the arguments which clearly expose the errors of socialism and of similar doctrines.
00:30:26.760 Our predecessor, Leo XIII, most wisely did so in truly memorable encyclicals.
00:30:31.000 And you, venerable brethren, will take the greatest care that those grave precepts are never to be forgotten.
00:30:38.020 Not even in 2024, when people forget a lot of things.
00:30:41.660 Pope Pius XI, no one can at the same time be a good Catholic and a true socialist.
00:30:47.960 He goes on, he lambests socialism.
00:30:50.500 Pope Pius XI, too few have been able to grasp the nature of communism.
00:30:54.000 The majority instead succumb to its deception, skillfully concealed by the most extravagant promises.
00:30:59.900 Pope Pius XII says the same thing.
00:31:01.960 Pope John XXIII, who is a liberal pope, at least that's how he's considered, says no Catholic could subscribe even to moderate socialism.
00:31:08.900 Pope Paul VI, considered a liberal pope, said much the same thing.
00:31:11.940 Pope John Paul II, constantly invading against socialism and communism.
00:31:16.640 I mean, the man is considered an anti-communist hero of the 20th century.
00:31:20.820 Pope Benedict XVI, who was the most recent pope before Francis, said the state which would provide everything, absorb everything into itself,
00:31:28.500 would ultimately become a mere bureaucracy and capable of guaranteeing the very thing which the suffering person, every person needs,
00:31:34.020 namely loving personal concern.
00:31:35.800 He says we don't need this.
00:31:36.740 We don't need any of that.
00:31:37.480 Okay.
00:31:40.060 What is going on here?
00:31:42.780 Pope Francis' comments are very confusing.
00:31:46.760 I've made no bones about the fact that I'm a mackerel-snapping papist myself.
00:31:49.980 I find it very confusing.
00:31:51.360 And I find it confusing because the church's teaching on communism and socialism is not at all confusing.
00:31:58.600 Not at all.
00:31:59.280 I just quoted a handful of the—I could fill up many shows talking about what the Catholic Church has said about condemning Marxism and socialism.
00:32:10.260 So what's really going on here?
00:32:11.600 In charity and to give Pope Francis the benefit of the doubt, I suspect that he's drawn in to this kind of a dialogue in the way that a lot of good people are drawn in to want to have a dialogue with Marxism and communism.
00:32:27.360 Because you actually do have a care for the common good, and you care for the poor, as Pope Francis said, and you care for those who have been left out, and you want rule of law, and you don't want the predations of a totally untethered liberalized regime of laissez-faire capitalism where no one cares at all about anyone else,
00:32:45.160 and everyone's just avaricious and trying to pursue his own personal interests to the exclusion of a common good.
00:32:51.120 I get that.
00:32:52.740 And they think that Marxism does that, but it doesn't.
00:32:58.100 And the left misunderstands that.
00:33:01.080 The good ones on the left misunderstand that.
00:33:04.200 The bad ones on the left are fine with it.
00:33:06.160 They just, you know, they're deceptive and duplicitous.
00:33:10.220 The thing is, a lot of people on the right misunderstand this, too.
00:33:13.540 I was talking to a friend of mine years ago who suggested, he was very deeply read in Marx, and he said,
00:33:21.140 if Karl Marx were alive today, he would not be on the left.
00:33:24.680 Or he would be on the left, but he wouldn't be a Democrat.
00:33:28.080 If Karl Marx were alive today, he would be in the Tea Party.
00:33:32.380 Karl Marx is a radical libertarian.
00:33:35.660 And I've had other anarchist friends and libertarian friends who have made that point.
00:33:41.000 Very few people have actually read Marx.
00:33:42.600 Everyone talks about Marx, very few people have actually read Marx.
00:33:45.880 From what I have read of Marx, which is probably more than most people, though I have nowhere near the man's total corpus,
00:33:52.120 I agree with them.
00:33:53.660 I think what Marx was after was total liberation.
00:33:59.820 That's the utopia at the end of Marxism, is a world of total freedom.
00:34:05.220 Freedom, not in the traditional sense of order and responsibility toward the natural order and natural hierarchies and man's natural ends and doing what you ought to do.
00:34:15.400 No, no, no.
00:34:16.020 The modern kind of freedom where you just do whatever the hell you want all the time.
00:34:19.160 That's what Marx was after.
00:34:21.240 The utopia at the end of the Marxist program is where you get to do just whatever the hell you want all the time.
00:34:27.720 And that is the libertarian view of freedom.
00:34:32.580 It's a hard saying.
00:34:37.580 The libertarians would say, no, we're the opposite of the Marxists.
00:34:40.300 They're the collectivists.
00:34:41.580 We're the individualists.
00:34:43.280 Karl Marx would probably call himself a radical individualist.
00:34:47.540 Because they're two sides of the same coin.
00:34:51.280 Because the actual opposition to communism, to Marxism, to collectivism is not radical individualism.
00:34:59.700 It's the family.
00:35:01.100 It's structure.
00:35:01.900 It's order.
00:35:02.620 It's hierarchy.
00:35:03.440 It's tradition.
00:35:04.340 It's inertia.
00:35:05.360 It's the weight of history.
00:35:07.280 Radical collectivism and radical individualism are both revolutionary programs.
00:35:11.280 That pour acid on all of the institutions of society that are both equally opposed to the family and to tradition and to everything that has come before us.
00:35:24.000 That's the issue.
00:35:26.840 And so, ironically, what I think all those past popes were warning about was that.
00:35:32.420 In Catholic social teaching, there's plenty of concern about laissez-faire capitalism going too far, about individualism going too far, which is why you need protections of the common good, which is different than collectivism.
00:35:45.160 You know, the collectivism that the left talks about is this kind of bizarre, modern, clinical utilitarianism where we determine the common good by figuring out, I don't know, the most pleasure for the greatest number of people, where we ignore individual rights.
00:36:02.420 Where we say, well, you know, if 50% plus one benefit from something, then screw the minority.
00:36:08.300 That's not truly the common good.
00:36:10.220 The true common good is everyone's individual good as well.
00:36:14.500 And it presupposes that we can know our own good.
00:36:18.400 That our own good is not just whatever you wake up desiring that morning, but that the good of man can be known objectively through the use of reason.
00:36:26.440 We were talking earlier about the natural law.
00:36:28.600 That's what that's about.
00:36:30.380 Things have a purpose.
00:36:31.220 The leftist-tears tumbler has a purpose.
00:36:33.560 It gives me my delicious leftist tears.
00:36:35.400 The microphone on my lapel has a purpose.
00:36:37.580 It transmits my mellifluous voice to your ears.
00:36:40.540 Man has a purpose.
00:36:42.660 Some of our organs have purposes.
00:36:44.660 The eye has the purpose, which is to perceive the visual world and allow us to interact with it in a reliable way, we hope.
00:36:53.920 Other organs have purposes.
00:36:56.120 Man has a purpose, an ultimate end to.
00:36:57.760 We can know it, and we can all flourish.
00:36:59.420 This is what the trans debate is about.
00:37:01.720 This is why I got in trouble for my eradication speech at CPAC.
00:37:04.820 I have my next CPAC speech coming up in, I don't know, just a few weeks or so.
00:37:08.080 I can't even imagine what we'll talk about this year.
00:37:10.180 But that was the problem.
00:37:11.080 Because what the left and some libertarians objected to in my speech was that understanding of the common good, which is totally opposed to Marxism, but also totally opposed to radical individualism.
00:37:24.220 I said that we can know for a fact that a man can't become a woman.
00:37:28.660 And so because of that, allowing a man who thinks he's a woman to chop himself up and to call himself Sally and to use the little girl's room is not only bad for society.
00:37:38.740 It's also bad for him because it's contrary to his good, which we can know.
00:37:44.440 And it is contrary to nature.
00:37:46.460 We don't want an overweening state with all sorts of crazy revolutionary theories to just force its will on everybody, but we can learn from tradition.
00:37:58.680 We can use our reason.
00:38:00.060 We can look to the wisdom of the ages.
00:38:01.380 We can use our own eyes and see that a man is not a woman.
00:38:03.660 And we can know that sometimes people have defects of reason that we can't indulge because it isn't good for anyone.
00:38:10.720 That's a good kind of common good, and that's the only way that you can actually protect true, legitimate, individual rights.
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00:39:16.340 My favorite comment yesterday, not yesterday, I guess it was on Friday, was from ThoughtHeretic, who says,
00:39:23.700 My favorite part is that Michael knows that the proper word is normality and not normalcy.
00:39:29.040 Thank you.
00:39:29.540 I'm glad you saw that.
00:39:31.000 People use this word normalcy, and it's a fake word.
00:39:34.960 It's a made-up word.
00:39:36.720 All words, in a way, are made up, but some are more made up than others.
00:39:40.000 Some are just mistakes that people made that become common, and others derive out of an organic process of etymological change.
00:39:47.660 And normalcy is in the former category.
00:39:49.980 Warren Harding, who I kind of defend a little bit, but he was not the brightest bulb that we ever had in the White House.
00:39:55.940 He used that.
00:39:57.020 The return to normalcy was his motto for his presidential campaign, and it's fake.
00:40:01.680 The word is normality.
00:40:03.260 And as we increasingly talk about norms and standards, you should get that word right, too.
00:40:06.860 That's a norm that we should also respect.
00:40:08.440 Now, I have a question about the most important issue of our day.
00:40:17.660 And it's about this Zoomer or maybe millennial girl whining about getting fired.
00:40:26.460 And I'll hold my question until—I assume you've seen it.
00:40:30.660 It went totally viral.
00:40:32.420 But I'll hold my question until after she makes her display.
00:40:38.420 Hi, Brittany.
00:40:39.540 Hi.
00:40:41.740 Thanks for meeting with me and Rosie.
00:40:45.080 So she's writing on here.
00:40:46.540 She's an accounting exec at Cloudflare.
00:40:48.780 We've finished our evaluation.
00:40:49.980 It's a company.
00:40:51.660 She writes her name here.
00:40:53.140 She goes, I want to stand up for myself.
00:40:54.420 What do I have to lose?
00:40:55.080 We've decided to partner with you.
00:40:58.120 Yeah.
00:40:58.560 I'm going to stop you right there.
00:41:00.080 Sure.
00:41:01.500 So I started August 25th.
00:41:04.160 I've been on a three-month ramp.
00:41:07.100 And then it was three weeks of September.
00:41:10.660 Enjoy the trauma, she writes.
00:41:12.200 And then a week of Christmas.
00:41:13.140 Her trauma, I guess, is what she's talking about.
00:41:14.600 And then here we are.
00:41:15.140 She's writing these things on the TikTok that she posts.
00:41:17.360 I have had the highest activity amongst my team since I've started.
00:41:22.560 I have had three contracts out, done a really great job managing my deals up until the very
00:41:28.560 end that decided not to close last minute.
00:41:31.860 So I don't think that that makes a lot of sense for me in my Cloudflare journey here so far.
00:41:39.020 Wow.
00:41:42.620 It goes on and on and on.
00:41:47.980 Everyone's talking about how she's an entitled young woman.
00:41:52.100 She doesn't get it.
00:41:53.660 You kidding me?
00:41:54.480 You buttercup.
00:41:55.360 You little snowflake.
00:41:56.460 Get with the program.
00:41:57.500 That's one take.
00:41:58.200 Then the other take is, yeah, corporate America, there's something really screwy about it.
00:42:02.300 And she's probably right.
00:42:03.660 And it's crazy how clinical her firing was.
00:42:06.660 And that is wrong.
00:42:07.440 And she, yeah, our economy is kind of messed up.
00:42:09.200 And fair enough.
00:42:10.740 My take is not either of those.
00:42:12.340 My question is, why does everyone film everything now?
00:42:19.980 Why?
00:42:21.960 It's kind of ironic, I guess, because I'm filming a thing right now.
00:42:24.560 I'm saying my thoughts on a camera to you.
00:42:27.140 But one, that's my job.
00:42:29.780 And two, you know, it's a, I'm not filming, you know, every traumatic event in my life.
00:42:37.160 I don't think I'm filming any traumatic events in my life.
00:42:38.880 I don't want to.
00:42:39.600 I don't want to expose that.
00:42:40.980 I'm not even filming when I go make pasta.
00:42:43.560 I'm not.
00:42:43.940 Some of you have asked me to do that, but I don't really do that.
00:42:45.940 The only time I really film in my house, if we're not snowed in, is when I'm making little ukulele videos.
00:42:51.120 Why is everyone filming it?
00:42:52.700 Your first instinct.
00:42:53.860 You see someone getting beaten up on the street.
00:42:55.540 You say, oh, I've got to film this.
00:42:56.820 You get fired from your job.
00:42:58.920 You know you're about to get fired.
00:42:59.820 You know it's going to be a traumatic experience.
00:43:01.040 You actually write in the comment, enjoy the trauma.
00:43:03.040 And you say, yeah, you know what I've got to do?
00:43:04.280 I've got to stream my firing, my humiliation.
00:43:07.480 What has gone wrong with people that they do that?
00:43:12.840 It's a total obliteration of private life.
00:43:16.700 To what she's actually doing here, it's a huge mistake.
00:43:20.480 She might be in the right.
00:43:21.660 Maybe the company just made a mistake.
00:43:23.280 Or they're just laying her off.
00:43:24.480 They don't really care.
00:43:25.080 They shouldn't have hired her in the first place.
00:43:26.680 She was doing a fine job.
00:43:27.920 Maybe that's the case she's making.
00:43:29.420 Or maybe she's a huge problem, which would seem to be the case because of, look what she's doing here.
00:43:34.820 This woman's never going to get a job again.
00:43:37.000 She'll probably have a better life because of that.
00:43:38.540 I actually don't think that working in the widget factory is the most wonderful and joyful way of life.
00:43:45.700 And I think that feminists duped a lot of women into thinking it is.
00:43:48.200 And now we have an economy where women feel that they have to work.
00:43:51.180 And in some cases, they would face real financial problems if they didn't work.
00:43:53.980 And those are all legitimate problems.
00:43:56.260 She's certainly never going to get a job again, though, once people Google her name that she put out there.
00:44:00.100 But why?
00:44:00.680 Why would you obliterate your private life like that?
00:44:05.380 Well, you know, actually, just occurs to me, it gets back to what we were talking about earlier with Twilight and Kristen Stewart saying all those homophobic things,
00:44:14.460 even though she's, I guess, kind of a lesbian.
00:44:17.100 And it's a total upending of the natural order.
00:44:30.440 Part of the reason that Dante puts his teacher, Brunetto Latini, in the circle of the sodomites,
00:44:35.380 it's not, I don't know what the guy did in his private life.
00:44:37.680 It's not even really necessarily about that.
00:44:39.520 It's because Brunetto Latini was a very famous poet who sought immortality in fame
00:44:48.280 and whose poetry, Dante seems to accuse, was disconnected from true ends.
00:44:58.680 It was totally self-indulgent and sterile and not fruitful.
00:45:03.120 And we do that today.
00:45:04.720 We do that.
00:45:05.380 You know why this lady is filming herself?
00:45:07.860 Because we don't have kids anymore.
00:45:09.640 I think.
00:45:10.040 That's probably why.
00:45:12.000 Not just because she's working and that, you know, when women are working, it makes them less likely to have kids.
00:45:16.500 But because we want to be immortal.
00:45:20.280 And the devil tricks us into thinking that the best way to become immortal is to become a big celebrity.
00:45:28.580 Or to, I don't know, write a really great book and that's how your name is going to live forever.
00:45:33.660 That's not actually how we become.
00:45:35.340 The natural way to have immortality is to pass on your genes.
00:45:40.600 It's to pass on your genes literally, biologically, or at the very least spiritually, to be a spiritual father and a mentor.
00:45:48.740 In fact, that can be more important.
00:45:51.020 But it's not to get your name in lights.
00:45:55.060 I get it's kind of ironic.
00:45:56.480 I got a big light here and I'm filming myself and I have a public career.
00:46:00.520 But it's not the most important thing that I do, not even close to it.
00:46:05.240 It's not.
00:46:06.500 That all has to be in service of something else.
00:46:08.600 And it was in our society for a while.
00:46:11.260 And even when people would do all sorts of sins for all of history, it's a fallen world.
00:46:15.420 But we at least had the right sense of that.
00:46:18.300 We had the right sense that the natural way to have immortality is to have a family.
00:46:23.960 And the supernatural way given to us by supernatural grace to have immortality is to follow God and follow the only begotten son of God who is incarnate and who is crucified and is resurrected on the third day and redeems us of our sins.
00:46:41.560 And if we have faith in him, we might not perish but have everlasting life.
00:46:44.760 That's how you actually get immortality on the natural and supernatural level.
00:46:47.820 But we get distracted all along the way.
00:46:50.420 Oh, I know how I'll get it.
00:46:52.480 I'll write a pretty poem.
00:46:53.440 I know how I'll get it.
00:46:55.200 I'll become an Instagram influencer.
00:46:57.160 I was talking to sweet little Elisa.
00:46:59.400 She was telling me, because she scrolls a little bit more on that stuff than I do.
00:47:04.320 My scrolling is Twitter.
00:47:05.680 Her scrolling is more like Insta and that kind of stuff.
00:47:08.240 So there are people who, they'll post really humiliating videos of themselves.
00:47:14.100 You know, looking ugly and, you know, like eating gross things and in this case, you know, experiencing the trauma of being fired.
00:47:22.720 But they'll say, wow, I'm so pleased that I'm an influencer.
00:47:26.020 Wow.
00:47:27.160 That's something else.
00:47:28.040 You're right.
00:47:29.000 You get that 15 minutes of fame, but it's 15 minutes.
00:47:31.500 Even if you're the most famous guy in the world, it's 15 minutes, you know, and then it's gone.
00:47:35.920 There is a more enduring way to have everlasting life.
00:47:39.460 Now, I want to get to so much more.
00:47:42.580 You know, I'm a tease.
00:47:44.980 Governor DeSantis, I think, probably seeing that his campaign is not doing as well as people had hoped.
00:47:51.180 He's turning on the conservative media.
00:47:53.880 We'll get to that.
00:47:54.980 Rand Paul has just made a kind of endorsement in the presidential race.
00:47:59.240 We'll get to that.
00:48:00.880 Mike Lee has just made an endorsement in the presidential race.
00:48:04.340 But I'm not going to tell you anything about any of that today.
00:48:08.320 That's going to have to be for tomorrow.
00:48:09.920 We will not have a member block because Professor Jacob, who's been sitting patiently right there, he's not even sitting on it.
00:48:15.820 I have a nice little couch in my office.
00:48:17.100 He's not.
00:48:17.380 He's sitting on the floor.
00:48:18.000 That's too hierarchical, actually.
00:48:22.540 The man should be sitting on, like, a chair or something.
00:48:25.700 But he did not bring me my iPad, so maybe he should sit on the floor.
00:48:28.520 Okay.
00:48:28.880 In any case, we might be back here tomorrow.
00:48:32.580 Maybe we'll be back in the studio.
00:48:34.460 We'll see what happens in the 2024 race.
00:48:37.080 Until then, I'm Michael Knowles.
00:48:38.000 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:48:39.380 See you tomorrow.
00:48:39.740 The Michael Knowles Show.