The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1405 - Wild Iowa Caucus Summarized In 2 Min

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00:00:30.260 President Trump has won the Iowa caucuses.

00:00:33.240 This is the first match for the 2024 presidential primary, the first votes that are actually cast.

00:00:38.560 And he didn't just win it by a little, he won it by a lot.

00:00:42.180 He won with more than 50% of the vote.

00:00:45.660 Which means that even if all of the other candidates had consolidated and worked together

00:00:52.220 and endorsed one anti-Trump candidate, still Trump would have won the caucuses.

00:00:59.080 Now, in his victory speech, President Trump did not take pot shots and attack people and insult everyone.

00:01:04.940 He actually was pretty gracious and congratulated his competitors.

00:01:09.080 I want to congratulate Ron and Nikki for having a good time together.

00:01:16.860 We're all having a good time together.

00:01:19.840 And I think they both actually did very well.

00:01:23.020 I really do.

00:01:23.500 I think they both did very well.

00:01:24.600 We don't even know what the outcome of second place is.

00:01:28.420 And I see Carrie Lake.

00:01:31.260 Congratulations, Carrie.

00:01:33.620 I spotted her. 0.99

00:01:35.020 I have to announce because she's terrific.

00:01:36.980 She's going to be a senator, a great senator, I predict.

00:01:40.060 Right?

00:01:40.460 You're going to be a great senator.

00:01:41.600 And I also want to congratulate Vivek because he did a hell of a job.

00:01:49.680 He came from zero and he's got a big percent, probably 8%, almost 8%.

00:01:56.420 And that's an amazing job.

00:01:58.420 They all did.

00:01:59.000 They're all very smart, very smart people, very capable people.

00:02:02.540 Some consider this to be uncharacteristic for Trump, but I don't think that's the case at all.

00:02:08.420 We've seen this from Trump forever.

00:02:10.240 He's brutal when you go head to head with him.

00:02:13.100 And then he's generally pretty gracious in victory.

00:02:16.980 He says, oh, yeah, I called Lion Ted the worst, most terrible man in the world.

00:02:20.640 And I said that his dad killed Kennedy.

00:02:22.300 But that was then.

00:02:23.120 This is now.

00:02:23.640 Now I think he's beautiful.

00:02:24.660 No big deal.

00:02:25.500 And that's the tact he's taking here.

00:02:28.260 He mentions Vivek Ramaswamy.

00:02:29.960 For his part, after the caucuses drops out of the campaign and makes a big announcement.

00:02:37.840 As of this moment, we are going to suspend this presidential campaign.

00:02:44.080 And this is going to have to be.

00:02:47.100 There is no path for me to be the next president absent things that we don't want to see happen in this country.

00:02:54.300 And I'm also making the decision that this has to be an America first candidate in that White House.

00:03:01.680 As I've said since the beginning, there are two America first candidates in this race.

00:03:06.740 And earlier tonight, I called Donald Trump to tell him that I congratulated him on his victory.

00:03:13.120 And now going forward, he will have my full endorsement for the presidency.

00:03:18.620 And I think we're going to do the right thing for this country.

00:03:21.800 So Vivek drops out, endorses Trump.

00:03:25.920 I think the smart move for him.

00:03:28.120 And people are saying, well, you know, he should have done better in Iowa.

00:03:33.060 He could have won Iowa.

00:03:34.160 I don't know.

00:03:34.840 No one had ever heard of this guy a year ago.

00:03:37.160 And then his first time ever running for public office, he runs for president.

00:03:41.400 He ends up in the final four presidential candidates.

00:03:44.260 And he pulls 7.7 percent.

00:03:46.400 That's pretty good.

00:03:47.240 Okay, never held office, does better than a whole lot of other people who had much more political experience.

00:03:53.520 So Vivek clearly has a bright future in front of him.

00:03:57.220 The question now is, what happens to DeSantis and Haley?

00:04:01.460 DeSantis pulled out the second place finish.

00:04:04.220 He was only a point or two above Haley.

00:04:07.280 Neck and neck, but DeSantis still gets number two.

00:04:09.740 He still seems to me to be the hardest hit candidate in this race because what last night proved is that the polls were right.

00:04:21.380 The polls were almost dead on the money about how it was going to shake out in Iowa.

00:04:25.240 And if the polls are right, then the DeSantis campaign is over.

00:04:31.340 We've been in a whole lot of nothing for about 18 months now.

00:04:37.140 Just chatter and talk and tweets and TV commercials.

00:04:41.400 And this is the first time any votes were cast.

00:04:43.860 And things can happen gradually and then suddenly in politics.

00:04:49.280 We are now in the suddenly phase.

00:04:50.740 Pretty soon, this whole primary could be over, frankly, in a matter of days.

00:04:56.100 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:04:56.720 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:05:16.680 Welcome back to the show.

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00:05:28.860 We'll get to that in just a moment.

00:05:31.060 First, though, the campaigns.

00:05:33.580 What happens here?

00:05:35.840 Trump wins Iowa.

00:05:37.340 As far as I'm concerned, the primary is over.

00:05:40.260 Now, Vivek is out.

00:05:42.900 That leaves DeSantis and Haley.

00:05:44.280 Haley might have an argument to keep running. 1.00

00:05:49.240 And the reason for that is, even though Trump is dominating in all of the primaries,

00:05:54.120 all of the upcoming primaries, you've got New Hampshire, you've got South Carolina,

00:05:58.200 you've got Nevada, you've got Michigan.

00:06:00.800 Trump is up double digits everywhere.

00:06:04.520 But there might be an argument for Haley to hang on because Trump is only up 10 to 13 points

00:06:12.340 in New Hampshire and Haley is the second place candidate.

00:06:15.400 So if she has a nice showing there, or maybe if she has even a surprise victory, then that

00:06:20.120 might get her to keep going along until South Carolina, which is her home state.

00:06:23.520 Trump is up by much more, actually, in South Carolina.

00:06:26.360 But she could keep trying to duke this thing out.

00:06:30.420 DeSantis has a much harder time because next up you have New Hampshire.

00:06:34.520 And in New Hampshire, he's currently in fourth place.

00:06:36.900 He's got something like six and a half percent there.

00:06:40.260 Haley's polling at 20 percent plus.

00:06:43.760 It could be a brutal defeat.

00:06:45.860 And then you go on and he's not looking good in South Carolina and he's not looking good in

00:06:49.480 Nevada and he's not looking good in Michigan.

00:06:50.880 And eventually, if DeSantis is not going to get the nomination, he's got to get out before

00:06:56.700 Florida because right now in DeSantis' home state, where he is currently the governor,

00:07:02.000 Trump is up 40 points in Florida.

00:07:04.160 So if he sticks in that long, he could be headed for a humiliating defeat.

00:07:08.620 And to save his political career, I think he would have to get out before that happens.

00:07:12.040 So Haley's got a little bit more time to play with, even if it's a complete long shot for 0.99

00:07:17.700 her in the race, she doesn't have a pressing deadline like that.

00:07:21.760 She's still polling well enough in South Carolina that I think maybe she can hang on.

00:07:26.540 She's not a sitting governor right now. 0.99

00:07:29.060 For DeSantis, it's a little bit tougher.

00:07:32.200 I think Mike Lee, the Republican libertarian senator from Utah, made a pretty good argument

00:07:42.480 as to how absent a lightning strike, whether it be from the sky or from the Democrats,

00:07:48.040 Trump is the nominee.

00:07:50.100 Look, whether you like Donald Trump or not, whether you agree with everything he says or

00:07:54.660 not, he is our one opportunity to choose order over chaos and putting America first over America

00:08:01.760 last.

00:08:02.560 It's time to get behind him.

00:08:04.500 And look, in presidential campaigns, there are always a lot of promises made.

00:08:07.740 My favorite kinds of political promises are promises kept.

00:08:12.360 Donald Trump has kept promises that he's made as he's campaigned in the past.

00:08:16.640 We know what kind of president he will be.

00:08:18.740 And so whether you agree with him on every point or not, if you are not content with the

00:08:24.720 status quo, the status quo of lawlessness, of putting America last, it's time to get behind

00:08:30.420 Donald Trump.

00:08:31.140 And I wholeheartedly endorse Donald J.

00:08:33.620 Trump in his bid for the presidency in 2024.

00:08:37.740 Clear enough.

00:08:38.560 And it harkens back to a political maxim first put out there by Otto von Bismarck, which is

00:08:45.020 that politics is the art of the possible, the art of the attainable, the art of the next

00:08:52.220 best.

00:08:53.460 And there are going to be people who don't love Trump or who liked him in 2016 or 2020,

00:08:58.780 but don't like him anymore.

00:08:59.840 They think this guy would be better or that guy would be better or whatever.

00:09:03.300 But what Mike Lee is saying here is there's clearly one candidate who can in any way unify

00:09:12.080 the GOP.

00:09:13.040 There's one guy who has proved himself to be far and away clearly the leader of the pack.

00:09:19.240 And he's the guy.

00:09:20.800 And maybe you prefer another guy and maybe you wish that he weren't, but he just is the

00:09:25.200 guy.

00:09:25.480 And so we've got to put the internecine squabbles aside.

00:09:30.000 We've got to quit burning GOP money when there is no path to victory really for any of the

00:09:34.520 other candidates.

00:09:35.340 And we just need to be a team player.

00:09:38.440 Wasn't that the point of the pledge before the GOP debate?

00:09:41.960 The pledge was you need to agree to support the eventual nominee.

00:09:46.420 And everyone but Trump signed it.

00:09:48.500 Trump said, I'm not going to sign that because I don't really believe it.

00:09:50.780 And I'm not going to promise something that I'm not going to deliver on.

00:09:55.000 And the other candidates signed it.

00:09:57.620 And then Chris Christie, the first big one to drop out of the race.

00:10:01.120 I actually didn't mean that as a pun, but there you have it.

00:10:03.660 He drops that.

00:10:04.340 And then he says, I'm not going to support Trump.

00:10:05.820 Oh, so you're a liar.

00:10:07.220 So you're just the thing that you accuse Trump of being.

00:10:11.440 But Lee is saying, look, Trump was good.

00:10:13.700 Maybe you wish he did more or he did things differently.

00:10:16.100 But he was a good president.

00:10:17.280 He did more for conservatives than a lot of other Republicans have.

00:10:21.300 And anyway, he's the guy now.

00:10:23.060 So I'm going to get behind him and you should too.

00:10:25.300 That's his argument.

00:10:26.180 And it's a fairly persuasive argument.

00:10:28.380 It might not be the most idealistically satisfying, but it is what it is, man.

00:10:33.500 This is the way the race has shaken out.

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00:10:51.160 The postmortems are already starting for the other GOP campaigns, in particular the DeSantis

00:10:58.520 campaign, because Iowa is where they staked the campaign.

00:11:01.720 Ron DeSantis himself is beginning to indulge these excuses.

00:11:09.240 The big new one of late is that the failure of the DeSantis campaign lies with the conservative

00:11:17.180 media.

00:11:18.500 He's got basically a Praetorian guard of the conservative media, Fox News, you know, the

00:11:26.040 websites, all this stuff.

00:11:27.680 They just don't, they don't hold them accountable because they're worried about losing viewers

00:11:31.860 and they don't want to have the ratings go down.

00:11:34.500 And that's just, that's just the reality.

00:11:36.420 That's just the truth.

00:11:37.440 And I'm not complaining about it.

00:11:39.540 I'd rather that not be the case, but that's just, I think, an objective reality.

00:11:43.680 This is not a good look for Ron DeSantis.

00:11:48.520 In part because it just isn't true.

00:11:50.320 If Governor DeSantis here is arguing that the conservative media were just always totally

00:11:57.140 behind Trump and they didn't give him a fair shake and that's why his campaign never took

00:12:01.680 off, that is ridiculous.

00:12:04.360 Fox boosted him in the early days of his campaign.

00:12:07.400 Plenty of people over at the Blaze boosted DeSantis in the early days of the campaign.

00:12:13.300 Most of the hosts at the Daily Wire explicitly endorsed Ron DeSantis.

00:12:17.460 DeSantis, I did not, I did not endorse any candidate.

00:12:20.780 I said, as a matter of principle, I don't think that's my role in the race and I'd rather

00:12:25.300 make observations and predictions.

00:12:27.320 I'm not here to work for any campaign, so I'm going to stay out of it.

00:12:30.560 But most of my colleagues, when asked, who would you vote for for president?

00:12:34.240 They said DeSantis.

00:12:37.060 So sure, over time, maybe some of the coverage changed on Fox or wherever, but he actually

00:12:43.580 did have a lot of support from the conservative media.

00:12:47.460 Then he says that the conservative media chose ratings over, you know, the interests of GOP

00:12:54.460 voters or something.

00:12:55.520 But what does that even mean in this case?

00:12:57.460 You're talking about the conservative media.

00:13:00.540 If we're talking about the conservative media, then ratings is directly related to the desires

00:13:05.920 of GOP voters.

00:13:07.440 I'm not saying it's exactly a one-to-one, but it's pretty close.

00:13:10.660 So even if there were people in the media who were just shifting their adulation of DeSantis

00:13:18.680 based on the poll numbers, based on ratings, rather, that would relate to the poll numbers.

00:13:22.660 It would relate to the vote.

00:13:24.520 What do I think is really going on here?

00:13:27.040 People are going to say DeSantis was a bad candidate.

00:13:29.600 I don't think that's true.

00:13:30.580 People are going to say the DeSantis campaign was run poorly.

00:13:35.220 I don't think that's true.

00:13:36.340 Sure, he as a candidate had flaws and the campaign made some mistakes without question.

00:13:42.400 But I think the campaign was basically fine.

00:13:44.140 And I think DeSantis is an excellent governor.

00:13:46.760 I really like the guy.

00:13:48.220 I think in any other race, he would have been clearing away a leader, if not the top guy

00:13:53.220 in the whole race from the beginning.

00:13:54.980 I blame circumstance here, which is what I've said from day one of this primary, which is

00:14:01.840 that DeSantis had an impossible task.

00:14:06.440 The biggest appeal of Ron DeSantis as a candidate, the initial pitch of his campaign is that he

00:14:13.800 was Trump without the baggage.

00:14:16.120 He's all the good stuff about Trump that you like, the effective policies, the irritating

00:14:22.880 the left, the more hands-on approach, the greater willingness to wield political power

00:14:29.740 rather than keeping the gloves off and just spouting off libertarian platitudes.

00:14:37.260 You know, he's the guy who's going to be rough and tumble with the universities.

00:14:40.060 He's going to fight Disney and he's going to reopen the country.

00:14:43.720 He's going to reopen his state, at least, during COVID, something that he said Donald Trump

00:14:47.620 didn't even do that.

00:14:48.580 I was much better on COVID than Donald Trump.

00:14:50.760 I'm Trump without the baggage.

00:14:51.960 I'm bigger, better, faster, stronger.

00:14:53.740 Okay, that was the pitch, but his role in the race was to not be Donald Trump.

00:14:59.480 His role in the race was to be the anti-Trump candidate.

00:15:02.880 And so he seems like he could have been the best candidate, but actually what that meant

00:15:09.160 politically is that he was a man without a home because the people who like Trump were

00:15:14.840 going to go with Trump.

00:15:16.680 And the people who don't like Trump wouldn't want anyone who in any way resembles Trump.

00:15:21.960 And Governor DeSantis has this problem where he just isn't Trump.

00:15:27.680 Trump is running in the race and he's not him.

00:15:29.640 And he is kind of like Trump.

00:15:31.260 He actually is kind of like the Trump without the baggage.

00:15:34.580 They have some differences on policy, but they're cut from the same cloth.

00:15:38.700 They belong to the same part of the party.

00:15:40.260 They share a constituency.

00:15:41.340 And the constituency was not willing to abandon Trump to go over to him.

00:15:45.240 And he couldn't pull enough of the other guys.

00:15:47.260 The other guys, the establishment side, the neoconservative side, the Bush side, they're

00:15:53.460 going over to Nikki Haley right now.

00:15:55.360 And so what was he going to do?

00:15:57.880 What was he going to do?

00:15:58.620 Was he going to sit out this race?

00:16:00.020 No, I don't think that would have been a good move either.

00:16:02.540 Because had he waited until 2028, everyone would have forgotten about him.

00:16:05.980 It would have been Chris Christie all over again.

00:16:07.420 I suspect the reason that DeSantis ran this time is because he learned the lesson of Chris

00:16:11.560 Christie.

00:16:12.160 2012, it's hard to remember now because Christie is a punchline.

00:16:15.180 Chris Christie was the man.

00:16:17.620 Chris Christie was the most popular Republican governor in the country.

00:16:20.980 He could have run for president.

00:16:22.560 He might have gotten the nomination.

00:16:24.020 But he waited until 2016.

00:16:26.000 And in 2016, he was an afterthought.

00:16:28.280 And then he ran again in 2024.

00:16:30.460 And he was a punchline.

00:16:32.140 So DeSantis didn't want that to happen.

00:16:33.600 DeSantis is going to leave office in early January of 2027.

00:16:39.480 That's almost two years before Election Day, 2028.

00:16:42.380 People would have forgotten about him.

00:16:43.860 They would have forgotten about his big political wins.

00:16:46.000 They've already forgotten about his big political wins.

00:16:49.100 DeSantis really came to the stage during COVID.

00:16:51.660 It was amazing.

00:16:52.780 He showed incredible courage and incredible vision during COVID.

00:16:55.440 And people don't even remember it.

00:16:56.820 They don't care about it anymore.

00:16:59.060 Political memory is relatively short.

00:17:01.980 Issues change.

00:17:03.600 And so, it's tragic.

00:17:08.300 I mean that in like Greek tragedy sense.

00:17:12.100 The greatest strength of the DeSantis campaign was its weakness.

00:17:17.280 And circumstances forced this to come out.

00:17:21.660 He didn't have a better avenue available to him.

00:17:26.540 The reason he was popular was because he was kind of like Trump.

00:17:29.140 But he was still kind of clubbable with some of the establishment types.

00:17:33.600 But that was his undoing.

00:17:36.660 The time he was going to run was going to be now.

00:17:40.080 But it was a once in a century moment when an incumbent, when a former president was running for a non-consecutive second term effectively as an incumbent.

00:17:51.600 Which is how the voters clearly are treating him.

00:17:55.200 I don't know.

00:17:56.400 There's no one to blame.

00:17:57.860 There's no one to blame.

00:17:58.880 It's just circumstance.

00:18:00.140 And that's probably the least satisfying answer for supporters of a losing campaign.

00:18:04.520 Now, there might still be an argument for Nikki to run or to keep in the race because she has less pressure to drop out. 1.00

00:18:11.440 But she's saying all sorts of things that are really irritating conservatives.

00:18:16.680 Nikki just two days ago came out and refused to say that a man cannot become a woman. 1.00

00:18:22.820 This is a transcript from Megyn Kelly.

00:18:27.920 Nikki was asked.

00:18:29.060 Let's get to our last question.

00:18:33.140 This is from John who has a question for you, Ambassador.

00:18:37.620 Hi, John.

00:18:39.340 John says, a lot of the stuff that Trump does, you know, and says really bothers me and I'm concerned about it.

00:18:43.640 You know, one thing I saw him do was he said that he had trouble answering the question, could a man become a woman?

00:18:48.340 I'm just wondering what your response is.

00:18:50.920 And then this is the response.

00:18:53.060 I'm not going to read the whole thing.

00:18:54.180 It's so long.

00:18:55.640 But Nikki says, yeah, I mean, I think first of all, let's look at the facts again.

00:18:59.940 I'm sorry we didn't make it out to your part of the state.

00:19:03.180 I hate that we're not there, but I appreciate you coming here.

00:19:05.660 Look, I mean, I've said I want to start with Trump and then get to the question.

00:19:08.600 You know, this is a hard truth on my part.

00:19:10.260 I believe Trump was the right president at the right time.

00:19:12.160 And so then she goes into the whole thing about I liked Trump.

00:19:14.960 That's why I worked for him.

00:19:15.860 But he's not the right guy now and I'm the right guy.

00:19:17.520 So she goes into that whole thing.

00:19:20.080 And then after a paragraph, she goes, now, can a man become a woman?

00:19:24.000 There's been a lot that's been talked about when it comes to all these roles and all these issues.

00:19:28.460 I strongly believe that we should not allow any gender change surgeries to anyone before the age of 18, period.

00:19:33.600 We kids now can't get a tattoo until they're 18.

00:19:35.960 We shouldn't have them permanently change their body until they're 18.

00:19:39.140 And that includes puberty blockers.

00:19:40.900 After the age of 18, we want to make sure that people can live any way they want to live.

00:19:44.520 I don't think government needs to be in control of anybody's life.

00:19:47.100 You can live the way you want to live and you should be free to live the way you want to live.

00:19:50.000 And every government and everybody else should stay out of your way.

00:19:52.960 But prior to 18, you know, that's bad.

00:19:54.360 Okay.

00:19:54.980 This is not my view.

00:19:56.100 My view is that for the good of society and especially for the good of the poor people afflicted with this confusion,

00:20:02.240 transgenderism should be eradicated from public life entirely. 1.00

00:20:04.660 The whole preposterous ideology at every level.

00:20:06.860 That's not Nikki's view.

00:20:08.020 Nikki's view is that we should stop transing the kids, but we should indulge transgenderism, at least to some degree, for adults.

00:20:14.220 And so it's not my view, but that is the view of a lot of people.

00:20:19.280 And that is the view of a lot of Republican voters.

00:20:21.540 That is the view of a lot of self-styled right-wingers.

00:20:24.660 And importantly, that is the view.

00:20:28.020 Look, I think that actually is her personal view.

00:20:29.920 I don't think she's being dishonest or anything here.

00:20:32.120 But more importantly, from a political perspective, that is the view that fits her lane in the race.

00:20:39.860 Her lane is the conciliatory, centrist, kind of establishment, kind of neocon lane.

00:20:46.400 It's the anti-Trump lane.

00:20:48.400 It's going to win over all those suburban housewives that hate Trump, at least according to the pollsters. 0.94

00:20:55.300 That's a view.

00:20:56.140 That's a big view in the party.

00:20:58.180 And if you're going to compete, you've got to know your lane.

00:21:02.740 You've got to see a path to victory there.

00:21:05.580 So she might lose.

00:21:06.700 She might go around state by state and get 20% of the vote in every state. 1.00

00:21:10.280 And Trump gets 80% of the vote.

00:21:11.740 And then he becomes the nominee.

00:21:12.920 And she's the number two person.

00:21:14.280 And maybe there's a unity ticket.

00:21:15.500 Or maybe she gets a position in the cabinet.

00:21:17.300 Or maybe she increases her leverage. 0.99

00:21:18.620 Or who knows?

00:21:19.700 Maybe they throw Trump in jail or worse.

00:21:21.580 And Nikki's the last person standing.

00:21:23.500 And she gets the nomination.

00:21:24.720 There's an argument for her to stay in the race. 1.00

00:21:26.540 But the only way she's going to stay in the race is by continuing to irritate the right-wingers. 1.00

00:21:33.440 She's going to have to move even more to the center, maybe even a little to the center-left. 1.00

00:21:37.600 On an issue like this, this is an issue where Democrats of 10 years ago would never have said,

00:21:42.240 yeah, people have a right to, men have a right to use the women's bathroom as long as they're adults. 1.00

00:21:47.460 But the country's moved to the left on that issue, on a lot of social issues.

00:21:52.320 So that's where she is.

00:21:53.300 She's finding that space in the center. 1.00

00:21:57.580 And it shows a split in the party, too.

00:21:59.560 Because I think especially among boomers and Gen X, that's a really acceptable answer.

00:22:06.340 Among Zoomers, that's not an acceptable answer. 1.00

00:22:09.600 The Zoomers strike me. 1.00

00:22:11.180 And I meet a lot of them.

00:22:12.060 And I travel all over the country.

00:22:13.300 They strike me as much more socially conservative.

00:22:16.020 The GOP Zoomers.

00:22:16.960 And millennials are a little bit split.

00:22:18.080 That's a generational divide, but she's picked her side of it.

00:22:22.580 And it might take her pretty far if she sticks in the race. 0.70

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00:23:52.080 Speaking of generational divides,

00:23:53.780 I posted a Twitter poll yesterday.

00:23:58.060 An ex-poll now, we call it.

00:24:00.360 Yesterday was Martin Luther King Day.

00:24:02.680 And I didn't even remember it was Martin Luther King Day until the end of the day.

00:24:05.920 I noticed that there was some anti-MLK posting going around on social media.

00:24:15.400 MLK had become kind of controversial.

00:24:18.740 And so I just, I said, hey, do you think Martin Luther King was a hero as,

00:24:24.300 I don't know, when I was growing up, everyone thought Martin Luther King was a hero.

00:24:26.500 Do you think he was a hero or do you think he's overrated?

00:24:29.400 And I said, and answer according to your age.

00:24:31.320 So if you're 44 and over, you know, pick this button.

00:24:35.120 And if you're under 44, click this button.

00:24:37.520 And I chose 44 because that's the cutoff for Gen X.

00:24:40.480 So I wanted to see how the Gen X and the Boomers differed from the Millennials and the Zoomers here. 1.00

00:24:46.980 And for Gen X and the Boomers, it was 50-50, which is actually somewhat surprising to me.

00:24:52.380 50-50.

00:24:54.100 MLK is overrated versus MLK is a hero.

00:24:57.380 For the younger people on this, on this highly scientific Twitter poll that, you know, I just put out there.

00:25:03.980 But it got a zillion votes.

00:25:04.980 A lot of people retweeted it.

00:25:07.560 It was three to two overrated.

00:25:12.840 A clear majority of the younger people responding to that poll said overrated.

00:25:17.360 And that part I believed.

00:25:19.120 I got the sense that younger people are not as hot on Martin Luther King as older people.

00:25:26.080 Why is this?

00:25:27.560 Is it because the younger people are more racist or something?

00:25:32.640 No, I don't think it's that exactly.

00:25:34.420 Is it because they're less educated?

00:25:36.400 No, I don't think it's that exactly.

00:25:39.100 I think it's that.

00:25:40.840 We're in a moment of major political shift.

00:25:44.180 And part of that shift is we're tearing down a lot of statues.

00:25:47.320 And we're upending a lot of myths.

00:25:48.780 And that happens a lot.

00:25:50.140 And it's happening all over the place.

00:25:53.120 We live in an age where people are tearing down statues of Christopher Columbus and George Washington.

00:25:57.920 Okay?

00:25:58.660 And Martin Luther King is as close to a secular saint as there can be.

00:26:03.500 He is in the pantheon of the liberal secular deities.

00:26:10.900 At least a saint, if not an outright deity.

00:26:13.000 But we're not only going to be tearing down statues of old white guys from the 18th century.

00:26:21.540 We're going to be tearing down all of the statues.

00:26:24.560 We're in an age of debunking.

00:26:28.020 That's the word.

00:26:28.860 It's kind of a stupid word.

00:26:30.160 But that's the word that is so popular.

00:26:32.120 We're going to debunk everything.

00:26:34.160 We're going to demystify everything.

00:26:36.300 We're going to disenchant.

00:26:37.820 We're going to rip up these myths.

00:26:39.720 And so the Zoomers who say they think MLK is overrated, they've got decent enough reason to. 1.00

00:26:46.400 I mean, there was the discovery in recent years that the man was witness to a rape and kind of laughed about it.

00:26:52.660 That Martin Luther King palled around with communists, even if he wasn't a communist himself.

00:26:58.980 That Martin Luther King, though presented as a Christian reverend, didn't really believe in the most basic aspects of Christianity.

00:27:06.060 He denied the divinity of Christ.

00:27:07.660 He denied the miracles.

00:27:08.600 It was a little complicated.

00:27:10.160 Plagiarized his PhD thesis, which now is a bigger issue because we just booted the president of Harvard University for that.

00:27:20.420 So, yeah, those are all the knocks on him.

00:27:21.900 The man also did really great things, though.

00:27:24.160 But in the age of debunking, in the age of demystifying and disenchanting, we ignore the great things.

00:27:29.980 We ignore the great things George Washington did.

00:27:31.620 We ignore the great things Lincoln did.

00:27:33.020 We're certainly going to ignore the great things Martin Luther King did.

00:27:35.280 And so that would be the reason why someone on the right might be a little skeptical of King.

00:27:39.260 And then the left has hated Martin Luther King for quite a while now.

00:27:42.100 Because even though King was presented for some time as a left-wing figure, now the left is not so interested.

00:27:48.720 And I have a dream that we won't be judged on the color of our skin.

00:27:51.120 Now the left is much more interested in Malcolm X than they are in Martin Luther King.

00:27:56.460 Now, rather than seeing Martin Luther King as a symbol of a major progressive victory in the 1960s, they see him as an impediment to real radical change.

00:28:09.920 And the left now is far more radical than it was 10, 20, 30 years ago.

00:28:14.360 So Martin Luther King is coming down.

00:28:18.140 And people are going to be very upset about this.

00:28:21.080 You know, I don't really care one way or the other.

00:28:23.140 I think the man did some great things.

00:28:24.520 I think the man had some problems too.

00:28:26.120 And, you know, when I consider saints, I usually consider Christian saints.

00:28:30.880 You know, like the saints canonized by the church.

00:28:33.280 I'm not saying that secular liberal culture can't canonize some good people along the way too.

00:28:38.120 They certainly have.

00:28:38.840 But it's just not my primary focus.

00:28:43.080 But it happens.

00:28:44.860 It happens.

00:28:45.480 The great heroes of one age, they disappear.

00:28:49.280 So the question now is, who are the heroes we're going to raise up in their place?

00:28:52.480 We're in a very destructive moment.

00:28:55.240 What are we going to build up in their place, if anything at all?

00:28:58.620 Because it's a lot easier to destroy than it is to build.

00:29:02.060 Now, speaking of black guys and Christianity, Lil Nas X, the rapper who infamously made a music video of him getting violated by the devil himself.

00:29:17.940 Lil Nas X then said he was becoming Christian and he was going to go study the Bible at a Christian college.

00:29:25.300 And he made a big media campaign about this.

00:29:26.780 Even though the college said, we've never heard of this guy.

00:29:28.500 He's not doing that.

00:29:29.240 Then he came out with this blasphemous music video, very sacrilegious video that we covered on the show briefly.

00:29:35.000 And now he's responding to the backlash against his sacrilege.

00:29:38.760 He says, oh, you know, I had no idea that people would be offended.

00:29:42.320 I obviously meant no offense.

00:29:44.340 So, first of all, when I did the artwork, I knew, like, there would be some upset people or whatnot, simply because, you know, religion is a very sensitive topic for a lot of people.

00:29:59.320 But I also didn't mean to, like, mock this wasn't like a, f*** you to you people, f*** you to the Christians.

00:30:11.280 Like, you know, it wasn't, it was not that.

00:30:14.380 It was literally me saying, oh, I'm back.

00:30:17.400 I'm back like Jesus.

00:30:18.680 And I will say, though, with the communion video with me eating the crackers and juice, I thought that video was going to be the video to lighten the mood, to take it down, like, less serious or whatnot.

00:30:34.040 Now, I thought that was something that we all wanted to do as kids or whatnot, but I didn't understand the idea of, you know, the reality of what it is.

00:30:45.140 You know, it's me eating the communion, which is, like, the symbolism of, like, Jesus's blood and bones or something like that.

00:30:52.120 I don't remember completely, but I did not mean it to as, like, a cannibalism thing or whatever the freak.

00:31:01.240 But I do apologize for that.

00:31:04.040 Yeah, really sincere.

00:31:05.560 Doesn't that seem really sincere?

00:31:06.860 I don't know.

00:31:07.400 I always try to look for the best in people and give people the benefit of the doubt, but he's obviously not sincere at all.

00:31:13.960 He's obviously still trolling.

00:31:16.160 Oh, I'm so shocked.

00:31:17.180 I made this music video right after I made this video where I was getting violated by the devil.

00:31:23.240 And I made another music video where I put satanic imagery all over the place, including in heaven, and presented myself as Jesus on an upside-down crucifix.

00:31:32.760 So a satanic image there and had all sorts of devils in heaven.

00:31:36.720 It's just so weird.

00:31:37.440 I can't believe it.

00:31:37.780 I didn't, obviously, I didn't mean to offend you.

00:31:39.440 No, man, I just didn't know.

00:31:41.300 You know, and then when I mocked the Eucharist, when I mocked the blessed sacrament, I just didn't know.

00:31:47.220 I didn't know it was like what's supposed to symbolize like Jesus's bones and stuff, bones and stuff.

00:31:54.240 Yeah, I don't know.

00:31:54.860 I didn't look it up.

00:31:55.480 You could have looked it up before you made the video if you actually wanted to apologize.

00:31:58.760 But you probably did look it up.

00:31:59.940 I'm sure he looked it up.

00:32:01.220 But he's mocking us.

00:32:02.720 And he's mocking, more than mocking us as Christians, he's mocking God.

00:32:07.340 God is not mocked.

00:32:08.220 It's not a good thing to do.

00:32:09.300 Not something to be recommended.

00:32:12.360 So, okay, he keeps trolling.

00:32:13.800 He's going to keep doing it.

00:32:14.900 His next music video will be the same thing.

00:32:17.060 And he'll keep the shtick up as long as he can.

00:32:19.500 And then his foot will slide in due time.

00:32:21.280 And that will be very sad for him.

00:32:24.800 This is all he can do.

00:32:27.060 And more than Little Nas X, this is all the devil can do.

00:32:31.900 Nothing that Little Nas X has done is in any way original.

00:32:35.700 It's all just derivative.

00:32:37.720 And it's all satire and parody.

00:32:40.640 That's all he can do.

00:32:42.120 The Black Mass, which is the satanic ritual, is just a parody of the true mass. 1.00

00:32:47.800 All of his commentary is just mocking true religion.

00:32:52.500 That's all he can do.

00:32:53.060 That's what the devil does.

00:32:53.940 The devil just kind of mocks you.

00:32:55.680 The devil just, he can tempt you.

00:32:58.020 He can mock you.

00:32:59.020 He can vex you a little bit.

00:33:02.740 But he can't really do anything new.

00:33:04.760 Because God is being itself.

00:33:07.640 You know, when Moses asks God in the burning bush, he says, who shall I tell them that you are?

00:33:12.040 God says, I am that I am.

00:33:14.220 Meaning God is being.

00:33:19.060 Full stop.

00:33:20.040 Period.

00:33:20.460 Being.

00:33:20.760 And so, God is what is really real.

00:33:26.400 Really, truly real.

00:33:28.420 And the opponents of God, they're not the opposite.

00:33:33.820 You know, it's not like the yin and the yang.

00:33:35.620 They're just, they're a privation of goodness and truth and beauty.

00:33:39.880 They're a privation of being.

00:33:42.240 They're nothing.

00:33:43.240 Just a little carbuncle on the side of the bark of Peter.

00:33:47.400 So, he'll keep this up for a while and he'll keep laughing until he's not laughing anymore.

00:33:53.820 But the one thing he won't do is have an original idea.

00:33:56.260 These guys never, ever do.

00:33:59.280 Now, speaking of religion and atheism, possibly the most famous atheist in the world has just suggested that he might become religious.

00:34:10.240 This would be Richard Dawkins, one of the four horsemen of the new atheist movement.

00:34:17.200 There was Christopher Hitchens, who was wrong about a lot of things, but at least he was entertaining.

00:34:22.360 And so, the late Christopher Hitchens, Daniel Dennett was the philosopher of the bunch, Sam Harris, who's gone a little bit off the deep end, and Richard Dawkins.

00:34:33.240 So, Dawkins tweets out,

00:34:36.740 Wow, man.

00:34:48.380 Even, forget about Dawkins for a second.

00:34:50.620 Even Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

00:34:51.640 Ayaan Hirsi Ali was one of the big figures of atheism.

00:34:54.680 In the mid-2000s, when atheism was really fashionable, when Hitchens was public, and Dawkins and all those guys were publishing their books and going on TV and hosting debates about how religion is bad and God doesn't exist.

00:35:06.560 And they were making weak arguments, but it was a publishing fad.

00:35:10.500 And so, they got a lot of air time.

00:35:12.000 And Ayaan Hirsi Ali was out there, too.

00:35:14.280 And then Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a few months ago, we covered it on the show, she became a Christian.

00:35:18.760 There are a lot of people who were firm atheists who have at least weakened in their atheism to the point of saying,

00:35:25.480 Okay, well, I'm agnostic, or I think Christianity is good, I just can't quite believe, or I'm a cultural Christian because I recognize that atheism is not sufficient to sustain a civilization.

00:35:34.700 Some have gone further, like Ayaan Hirsi Ali, to say, No, I actively am Christian now.

00:35:38.480 And even Richard Dawkins, the most famous living atheist, says, Maybe there's something that I still have to learn when it comes to religion.

00:35:47.840 This is not an age for atheists.

00:35:52.400 Atheism is a luxury of a once-in-an-epoch period of peace and material prosperity.

00:36:01.580 That's when it cropped up, at the very peak of American prosperity and global peace.

00:36:08.900 And it was just at the very tail end of it.

00:36:12.300 But we were making so much money, and everything was calm, and America was the unrivaled global hegemon, and everyone was just kind of an atheist.

00:36:22.760 And then Muslims attacked the United States, and because it was politically incorrect to attack Islam uniquely,

00:36:30.800 there was this final attack on all religion, all superstition.

00:36:36.200 It was all the kind of, the language of the Enlightenment, the language of the decadent parts of modernity.

00:36:42.200 It was all religion as total nonsense, you know. 1.00

00:36:45.280 But then history kept going.

00:36:47.500 And some of that material prosperity was threatened, and the peace has disappeared, and we're now on the brink of World War III.

00:36:54.180 And people started thinking again about things other than their wallets, and the stasis that we'd all been in.

00:37:02.220 And the religious questions keep popping up.

00:37:05.520 People are asking what a man is, what a woman is.

00:37:08.000 That's not a question that you can answer with money.

00:37:12.180 That's not a question that you can answer with atheism.

00:37:16.120 It's a question about what it means to be.

00:37:19.900 What is there a soul?

00:37:21.080 The transgender activists seem to think that there is something like a soul. 0.99

00:37:26.420 Because they say that their identity is not their body.

00:37:28.820 You need religion to answer that kind of a question. 0.93

00:37:31.980 Are we going to have a nation?

00:37:34.080 What's the proper relation of a man to his family and his community and the whole world?

00:37:37.880 What are our obligations to foreigners? 0.98

00:37:39.700 Mass migration is a big crisis.

00:37:41.000 What are our obligations?

00:37:42.040 What does morality tell us about it?

00:37:43.920 You can't, you've got to engage in those religious questions again.

00:37:48.740 The old gods have returned.

00:37:50.300 The old pagan gods have returned. 1.00

00:37:53.580 The old weird sex cults have returned.

00:37:56.940 And so the only way to fight the old gods is true religion.

00:38:04.040 It's the only way to do it.

00:38:05.620 Either you just become a pagan, which plenty of people have done, or you return to the true faith. 0.96

00:38:12.120 But no religion is no longer tenable.

00:38:15.540 That time has passed.

00:38:16.840 It's very, very mid-2000s.

00:38:20.060 Very, very dated.

00:38:21.980 So maybe Professor Dawkins will hop on over.

00:38:24.640 Wouldn't that be great?

00:38:26.320 Now, speaking of professors, there is a Harvard professor who has just given the most perfectly liberal take on the entire public square at, where else?

00:38:42.400 The World Economic Forum, where liberal elites from all over the world gather in Davos to decide how to run our lives.

00:38:48.900 We'll get to that in one second first, though.

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00:39:51.620 My favorite comment yesterday is from Marcus Cabera, 4079, who says,

00:39:56.500 Michael is one Italian tie away from closing the door on SLA and insisting she not ask him about his business. 0.56

00:40:02.400 I know it's true.

00:40:04.000 Because I was wearing my Italian double-breasted blazer yesterday.

00:40:06.940 I said one of my big New Year's resolutions.

00:40:10.320 It's not necessarily to work out, you know, or read more books or do something.

00:40:14.520 It was, I think I need to wear more double-breasted jackets.

00:40:18.640 And so we've begun that.

00:40:19.900 And now pretty soon, perhaps I will murder all of my enemies and move my family business to Las Vegas.

00:40:26.400 We'll see.

00:40:26.880 We'll find out.

00:40:27.420 A Harvard professor on a panel at the World Economic Forum is going off about the danger posed to society by Twitter, by conservatives being able to speak somewhat freely about anything, anywhere.

00:40:46.900 For a long time I was on Twitter, and now it's become such a toxic place that I've concluded it's not a worthwhile place to spend time.

00:40:57.020 And as you said, it is exhausting.

00:40:58.580 So you do have to pick and choose.

00:41:00.400 And you have to think about where the place is where you can get your message across.

00:41:04.460 But I am trying to figure out, I mean, I have given up on X.

00:41:07.760 What a scary name that even is, right?

00:41:11.040 And I don't know what the alternative is right now.

00:41:14.400 What is scary about the name X?

00:41:19.700 Elon responded.

00:41:20.700 He said, X is just a letter of the alphabet.

00:41:23.420 What?

00:41:25.100 How is it scary?

00:41:26.920 This is proof that the liberals will just present anything they don't like as scary.

00:41:38.540 And they always, they say, oh, this Trump, he's scary.

00:41:42.100 Those other Republicans, some Republicans, I might not agree with them, but they're, but this Trump, he's really scary.

00:41:48.760 So first of all, Trump is scary.

00:41:50.480 How is Trump scary?

00:41:51.240 Trump, you liked Trump for like 40 years.

00:41:54.300 Trump is scary.

00:41:54.960 He was on every tabloid, he was on every talk show, he was a, he was a network game show host.

00:42:00.360 He had a very popular clothing line and clubs.

00:42:04.140 And he's the least scary guy in the country.

00:42:05.480 What are you talking about?

00:42:06.920 No, he's very scary.

00:42:08.960 Listen, I, I want a healthy Republican party, but this Trump man, he's scary.

00:42:13.020 No, you're just saying he's scary because he's the guy now.

00:42:15.820 Just like you were saying Romney was scary.

00:42:17.800 Just like you were saying McCain is scary.

00:42:19.820 Also guys that you previously had liked.

00:42:22.180 Now you like, sort of like them again because they turned on Trump and you know, okay, fine.

00:42:26.700 This goes all the way back to the Goldwater campaign where the libs trotted out some guy and they said, he said, I am, I wish I had a clip of the, of the, the ad.

00:42:34.760 I, you know, I am a lifelong Republican, but this Barry Goldwater man, he's scary.

00:42:39.100 But they'll do it to anything.

00:42:40.040 They'll do it to the letter X. 0.57

00:42:41.540 Isn't that a scary letter?

00:42:42.980 What would Y have been less?

00:42:45.740 Would W have been less scary?

00:42:47.020 No, it's just anything, anything, including the most benign anodyne things that we do will be called scary.

00:42:54.740 And so you've got to not let that affect you.

00:42:57.600 They're going to say this stuff about anything that we do.

00:43:02.300 And, and what's the substance of X?

00:43:04.240 What X is, is Twitter, but conservatives are allowed to speak.

00:43:09.420 It's Twitter, but conservatives are probably not going to be banned for being right wing.

00:43:14.540 And we're probably not going to be shadow banned.

00:43:17.580 And we can just speak.

00:43:20.600 That's the scary thing.

00:43:22.260 It's very scary, very scary to the left.

00:43:24.040 Now, they're plotting at Davos how to control our lives and implement all sorts of new instruments in politics and corporations and universities to control us.

00:43:38.660 One of the main ways they do that is through DEI.

00:43:41.820 And the CEO of United Airlines has just promised that he is going to implement DEI all throughout his company, up to and including the cockpit.

00:43:50.820 How is diversity and diversity targets working into the Aviate Academy?

00:43:56.200 We have committed that 50% of the class of the classes will be women or people of color.

00:44:02.280 Today, only 19% of our pilots at United Airlines are women or people of color.

00:44:07.140 And by the way, from all the data I've seen, that's the highest of any airline in the country.

00:44:11.140 White males don't just dominate in the cockpits. 0.99

00:44:12.800 Also in the C-suite at United Airlines.

00:44:15.340 Well, look, at United, I'm proud of the diversity that we actually have in our C-suite.

00:44:18.920 I think if you look around corporate America.

00:44:21.000 Correct me if I'm saying, though, so this is just based off your website, the people you list as executives.

00:44:24.160 But out of 11 people, three are women.

00:44:26.040 I believe one is a person of color.

00:44:28.380 That's correct.

00:44:30.480 But, you know, in corporate America, I think, you know.

00:44:32.700 That's a low bar.

00:44:33.580 How do you raise your own bar?

00:44:35.340 Well, a lot of this is, you know, focusing on it.

00:44:37.900 We have programs to.

00:44:39.520 One of the things we do is for every job when we do an interview, we require women and people of color to be involved in the interview process. 0.87

00:44:48.000 Bringing people in early in their careers as well and giving them those opportunities and creating a stronger bench.

00:44:55.980 Okay.

00:44:56.460 I don't care what this man does to his C-suite.

00:45:01.300 I don't care if he fills it all with a bunch of lesbian, pygmy, Muslim, Zoroastrians. 1.00

00:45:08.860 I don't care.

00:45:11.860 The cockpit worries me.

00:45:15.180 DEI is necessarily opposed to quality.

00:45:21.240 Necessarily.

00:45:21.900 Because what DEI says is, we're going to make you use diversity, equity, and inclusion standards to deprioritize merit when you hire someone or admit someone to university or bring someone into your club.

00:45:36.620 We're going to deprioritize merit because we're boosting sex or race or sexual behaviors or whatever.

00:45:46.240 However, some liberals have tried to argue that DEI actually accentuates quality and merit.

00:45:52.700 That is logically impossible because the entirety of what DEI is, is saying there are other considerations that you should place above merit or candidate quality.

00:46:09.220 DEI in restaurants means that you value diversity more than your dinner.

00:46:16.240 Okay.

00:46:17.960 DEI in universities means that you value diversity more than your education.

00:46:24.880 That's not good.

00:46:25.700 That's a little scary.

00:46:27.940 DEI in the cockpit means that you value diversity more than your life.

00:46:33.660 And I do not.

00:46:34.900 I don't really like diversity as the liberals talk about it.

00:46:39.800 I think it's a pretty dark thing and not conducive to anyone's flourishing.

00:46:43.400 I think it's just radical leftist politics and degrading to everyone.

00:46:51.360 I certainly don't like it more than I like my life.

00:46:56.060 This is madness.

00:46:56.880 This is actual suicide.

00:46:59.880 Michael, are you saying that a black woman can't fly an airplane? 1.00

00:47:03.460 I'm sure some black women can fly airplanes. 1.00

00:47:07.780 But I am certain that DEI policies will lower the candidate quality of the pilots.

00:47:13.580 And I don't want to get on those planes.

00:47:14.880 Luckily, I don't really fly United that much.

00:47:16.440 So that's good for me.

00:47:17.880 But if you do, sorry.

00:47:19.680 You know, I guess we should all pray that this turns around because that won't turn out very well.

00:47:26.100 Now, Jelly Roll is addressing another national problem.

00:47:31.080 Do you know Jelly Roll?

00:47:31.780 I don't really know who Jelly Roll is.

00:47:33.660 But he's an interesting sounding guy and he's got a lot of face tattoos.

00:47:38.060 Jelly Roll was a former drug dealer.

00:47:41.180 And I think he's a musician now.

00:47:43.320 And he has got a line.

00:47:46.040 He has got a take on political problems that is really, really good.

00:47:51.720 But because I'm a tease and I've run out of time, I'm going to have to get to that tomorrow.

00:47:55.000 So how do you like that?

00:47:55.840 That's me.

00:47:56.200 I'm a tease.

00:47:56.660 What can I say?

00:47:57.920 That's our show.

00:47:58.580 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:47:59.100 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:47:59.820 We're still snowed in.

00:48:01.280 So I'm still stuck here in my home.

00:48:05.120 I've got the barbarians at the gates. 0.99

00:48:06.600 And by barbarians, I mean my little children.

00:48:09.340 And so we might be back in the studio tomorrow.

00:48:11.820 I hope we are.

00:48:13.360 But we'll wait and see.

00:48:15.040 In any case, Jelly Roll will have to wait until then.

00:48:17.100 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:48:17.640 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:48:18.320 See you tomorrow.

00:48:21.720 I'm Michael Knowles.

The Michael Knowles Show - January 16, 2024

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