The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1423 - Tucker's Putin Interview Summarized In 8 Mins

00:00:00.000 Imagine, if you will, that two world leaders are fighting a proxy war.

00:00:05.100 And one of those leaders remembers every historical event since AD 862 in meticulous detail.

00:00:11.860 And the other leader can't remember when he was vice president eight years ago.

00:00:17.180 This, you would agree, would not be an ideal situation for citizens of the latter leader's

00:00:23.980 country. And sadly, both sides of that hypothetical were on full display last night.

00:00:30.780 I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:17.580 That is Knowles, K-N-W-L-E-S, to 989898. Before I get to the Tucker interview with Vladimir Putin,

00:02:24.760 before I get to the disastrous Biden press conference, before I get to the Supreme Court

00:02:30.280 hearing the Colorado case about why they want to kick Trump off the ballot there,

00:02:34.900 they don't even want him to appear on the ballot in Colorado, and Justice Clarence Thomas totally

00:02:40.100 destroyed that liberal lawyer. Before we get to any of that, the special counsel report has come out.

00:02:45.520 There was a special counsel investigating Joe Biden because Joe Biden improperly handled

00:02:51.480 classified documents. The same thing that they're trying to put Trump in an orange jumpsuit for,

00:02:55.460 Joe Biden did with less authority to do it because when he mishandled those documents,

00:02:59.780 he was not the president of the United States. He did not have ultimate declassifying authority.

00:03:04.560 He had a lot more documents in a lot more places, it would seem. And finally,

00:03:10.760 we've gotten a result from this special counsel, and the result is Joe Biden did all the stuff that

00:03:19.000 they accused Trump of doing. Frankly, did a more egregious version of all the stuff that they accused

00:03:24.080 Trump of doing. But because he is so old and senile, they are not going to prosecute him.

00:03:30.000 Because he is basically not fit to stand trial, he will not be prosecuted.

00:03:35.440 According to special counsel Robert Herr, Biden, quote, willfully retained and disclosed

00:03:42.360 classified materials. So why aren't they going to prosecute him? Because, quote,

00:03:47.820 we have also considered that at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury,

00:03:52.660 as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man

00:03:58.620 with a poor memory. It would have been brutal to Biden had the special counsel actually prosecuted

00:04:07.560 him and put him on trial. That was never going to happen. In a way, this report is almost more

00:04:13.840 brutal because they're saying the guy basically can't remember his own name. The reason they're

00:04:19.660 not prosecuting him is because it would be like prosecuting a child or an animal. This is someone

00:04:23.940 who's just not in command of his rational faculties. The special counsel goes on,

00:04:28.500 based on our direct interactions with and observations of him, he is someone for whom

00:04:33.600 many jurors will be able to identify reasonable doubt. It would be difficult to convince a jury

00:04:37.500 that they should convict him by then a former president well into his 80s of a serious felony

00:04:41.920 that requires a mental state of willfulness. The man who is currently running for re-election

00:04:48.040 as president of the United States, as multiple wars are breaking out that could lead to a global

00:04:53.900 conflict, war in Ukraine, war in the Middle East, an open border with a flood of millions and

00:04:59.980 millions of foreign nationals pouring into our country. The president does not have a mental state

00:05:07.700 of willfulness. According to the special counsel, Biden's memory was worse during an interview with

00:05:14.780 him than it was in recorded conversations that go back to 2017. And when I say worse, I don't mean

00:05:21.960 it like he didn't remember the details of some Senate negotiation from 1978 when he was first

00:05:30.560 elected to the Senate back in the 70s. I'm not talking about the 70s or the 80s or the 90s or even

00:05:35.940 really the 2000s. I mean, quote, he did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first

00:05:44.120 day of the interview when his term ended. Apparently, this is the direct quote. If it was 2013, when did I

00:05:52.520 stop being vice president? Direct quote from the report. And forgetting on the second day of the

00:05:59.120 interview when his term began. In 2009, am I still vice president? Direct quote. He also did not remember

00:06:07.720 when his son Bo died. He also did not remember a debate about Afghanistan. He did not remember even

00:06:14.400 within several years when his son died. So I see why they would say he's a sympathetic person. I

00:06:20.880 have had grandparents who have gone through this kind of mental decline. Many of you have had

00:06:27.320 grandparents or parents that have gone through this kind of mental decline. You know exactly what

00:06:31.400 this is like. And especially if you know an elderly person who's experienced some kind of trauma like

00:06:36.940 a child dying. It can be very disorienting. It can accelerate a kind of a mental decline. But when we

00:06:44.160 say, oh, he's losing a step or two, we're not talking about him speaking a little bit more slowly or

00:06:50.060 taking a moment to remember certain dates and numbers. We're talking about he doesn't remember within

00:06:55.580 years some of the most important events of his life. He doesn't remember when he served as vice

00:07:03.940 president. Absolutely brutal. So that's the president of our country. Then the hours after

00:07:12.660 that special counsel report came out, we saw the president of another country whom many call our

00:07:18.260 number one geopolitical adversary. That would meet President Vladimir Putin doing an interview with

00:07:22.860 Tucker Carlson. The interview was spectacular. Tucker did a great job. Vladimir Putin did a great job.

00:07:33.020 Vladimir Putin begins the interview by answering Tucker's simple question, namely, why did you invade

00:07:38.760 Ukraine? With a roughly 1,200 year history of Russia and Ukraine and Lithuania and Poland involving

00:07:49.840 persons, involving specific years, involving pivotal events, off the top of his head from memory?

00:07:57.060 Let's look where our relationship with Ukraine started from. Where did Ukraine come from?

00:08:04.560 The Russian state started gathering itself as a centralized statehood, and it is considered to be the year of the

00:08:13.140 establishment of the Russian state in 862, when the townspeople of Novgorod invited a Varangian prince, Rurik,

00:08:23.620 from Scandinavia to reign. In 1862, Russia celebrated the 1,000th anniversary of its statehood,

00:08:34.480 and in Novgorod, there is a memorial dedicated to the 1,000th anniversary of the country.

00:08:44.160 I'm just playing a very tiny piece of this. It goes on for about half an hour. During most of the time,

00:08:52.560 Tucker's just got perfect Tucker face looking at Putin, you know, and he'll interrupt occasionally,

00:08:57.820 because Tucker said, well, I feared he was just trying to filibuster, but then I realized he wasn't

00:09:03.960 trying to filibuster. Vladimir Putin realizes that no one in the West knows any of this history,

00:09:11.800 certainly of that region. We don't know much history about our own region and our own country anymore,

00:09:16.060 and if you want to understand modern political events, it helps to have historical context.

00:09:23.200 We've just totally forgotten our history. We think that history began yesterday. This is a consequence

00:09:29.240 of liberalism, political liberalism, which denigrates the past, says the past doesn't really matter,

00:09:35.520 has a utopian view of the future. They're not very liberal over there in Russia. They're not liberal

00:09:40.700 in China. They're not liberal in most parts of the world. It's a particularly American and more broadly

00:09:46.400 Western phenomenon. Putin was extremely impressive last night, but it's not that Putin is the greatest

00:09:54.340 statesman who's ever lived. He's a very talented statesman. There is no question about that.

00:10:00.080 We used to have statesmen like this too. We used to have statesmen who had studied history,

00:10:05.600 who understood geopolitics and grand strategy, who had a realistic view of how nations develop.

00:10:14.080 We used to have that, and we lost that somewhere. But that did exist in the West.

00:10:23.200 Even in recent American memory, Richard Nixon could talk like this.

00:10:28.060 Frankly, to some degree, George W. Bush could talk like this. Putin makes this point in the

00:10:33.260 interview. He says, people all made fun of Bush for talking like an idiot, but Bush was actually a

00:10:38.340 pretty sophisticated thinker, and he and I would have pretty serious conversations.

00:10:41.040 But someone like a Nixon could talk like this. Eisenhower could talk like this.

00:10:47.320 Earlier statesmen understood statecraft. Now we don't. Now for us, it's all just kind of a joke.

00:10:53.180 It's all just shallow, modern political ideologies. This kind of talk though, everyone wants to say

00:10:59.420 Putin, he's the worst guy ever. He's just Hitler 2.0, whatever. Every bad person is Hitler. 0.62

00:11:04.340 So say the people who don't even know that much about Hitler. Every historical event is the fall

00:11:09.560 of Rome. These are people who don't even know that much about the fall of Rome. It's so profoundly

00:11:13.860 shallow. And it seems to me that if you want to understand and perhaps work your way out of a

00:11:20.060 political conflict that might threaten World War III, it helps to see things from the other person's

00:11:24.380 point of view. Isn't that what the liberals tell us all the time? You just need to understand

00:11:28.240 everyone else's point of view and walk a mile in their shoes. Except when it comes to our

00:11:32.260 geopolitical adversaries with whom we're currently engaging in a proxy war. I don't think so. Very

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00:13:15.260 gets to the argument for going into Ukraine today, and that would be denazification.

00:13:23.500 We haven't achieved our aims yet, because one of them is denazification. This means the prohibition

00:13:31.660 of all kinds of neo-Nazi movements. What is denazification? What would that mean?

00:13:36.860 You say Hitler has been dead for so many years, 80 years. But his example lives on. People who 1.00

00:13:45.260 exterminated Jews, Russians and Poles are alive. And the president, the current president of today's

00:13:52.300 Ukraine, applauds him in the Canadian parliament, gives a standing ovation. Can we say that we have

00:13:59.500 completely uprooted this ideology if what we see is happening today? That is what denazification

00:14:06.700 is in our understanding. We have to get rid of those people who maintain this concept and support

00:14:13.420 this practice and try to preserve it. That is what denazification is. This is a brilliant answer 0.95

00:14:20.620 from Putin, because it's both extremely cynical and has a profound degree of truth to it. It seems like

00:14:31.660 those two things are in conflict. But it's cynical in that Putin knows that for the West,

00:14:35.660 Nazism is the worst thing possible. The West no longer believes in God. The West no longer believes

00:14:42.700 in the devil. But the West does believe in the incarnation of evil, in the figure of a mustachioed

00:14:48.860 Austrian painter who became a German dictator. That is the symbol. We don't believe in devils anymore.

00:14:54.760 We erect statues of demons and Satan in our state capitals, ironically. We have politicians giving

00:15:02.820 impassioned speeches on the rights of Satanists, okay? But there is a devil. The replacement devil

00:15:08.060 is just Hitler. So we know that is the symbol of absolute evil in the West. And Putin says,

00:15:15.240 yeah, Ukraine, they're Hitler people. They're Nazi people. And that's why we want to denazify. It's like 0.97

00:15:21.740 saying we want to de-evilify Ukraine. He knows that's going to play well in the West. And Tucker says, 0.97

00:15:28.660 haven't we had enough Hitler? Hitler's been gone for a long time. And Putin says, well, what about

00:15:33.260 that Ukrainian soldier that was applauded in Canada who worked with Hitler? Because if you're going to 0.96

00:15:38.980 fight the Russians in Ukraine in World War II, that means you're working with Hitler because the war was 0.78

00:15:47.440 between Hitler and the Russians. Okay. Now, at a deeper level, it's not just cynical. It's not just

00:15:56.500 him playing on the talking points of the West. Because he's saying that Ukraine has been a long

00:16:03.180 contested territory. It was part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth for a while. It was

00:16:08.800 part of Russia for a while. But then in the 19th century, and especially in the 20th century,

00:16:14.080 there was a movement for Ukrainian nationalism and independence around the same time that you

00:16:20.240 saw nationalist movements take hold all over the world. And this intensified during the 20th century,

00:16:27.580 during World War II. And so Nazism does become an expression of a Ukrainian national identity that's

00:16:39.420 anti-Russian by the sheer historical fact that the Nazis fought the Russians in World War II.

00:16:47.560 And we do know that there are some neo-Nazi elements in Ukraine, like the Azov Battalion,

00:16:52.120 which has been much written about. So there's a real level here. Denazification of Ukraine

00:16:57.300 is an important priority for Russia, not just because the mustache man is evil, but because 0.74

00:17:04.320 Nazism is an expression of Ukrainian independence from the Russians. Very subtle point, as there are

00:17:13.360 many subtle points from Vladimir Putin. And then, I'm skipping over hours of footage, but Tucker then

00:17:19.880 ends the interview in a very bold way, asking for the release of a Wall Street Journal journalist,

00:17:25.860 who is an American, from Russian prison. Here's Putin's answer.

00:17:30.740 I'm just going to ask you one last question. And that's about someone who's very famous in the

00:17:35.280 United States, probably not here. Evan Gershkiewicz, who's the Wall Street Journal reporter. He's 32.

00:17:42.560 And he's been in prison for almost a year. This is a huge story in the United States. And I just want

00:17:47.180 to ask you directly, without getting into the details of it, or your version of what happened,

00:17:51.740 if as a sign of your decency, you would be willing to release him to us, and we'll bring him back to

00:17:58.200 the United States. We have done so many gestures of goodwill out of decency that I think we have run

00:18:04.800 out of them. We have never seen anyone reciprocate to us in a similar manner. However, in theory, we can

00:18:15.480 say that we do not rule out that we can do that, if our partners take reciprocal steps. There is no taboo

00:18:23.760 to settle this issue. We are willing to solve it. But there are certain terms being discussed

00:18:30.360 via special services channels. I believe an agreement can be reached.

00:18:38.660 Another very good answer from Putin. He says, look, you know, sometimes you get our spies,

00:18:44.000 sometimes we get your spies. The CIA is talking to FSB. We'll work it out. Even the way he talks

00:18:50.040 about the special services. Remember, Putin worked for the KGB. And he says, I work for KGB. I would

00:18:55.860 have conversations with my counterparts in America, which is CIA. You know it's a job. It's very, he's

00:19:03.880 very disarming in person. He says, maybe we reach a deal, but I'm not just giving you your spy,

00:19:09.000 your American spy. We are going to get something out of it. Brutal, brutal interview. Tucker did a

00:19:15.820 great job. Putin did a great job. The establishment media obviously didn't want you to see this because

00:19:20.760 it cuts through a lot of propaganda and it, and worse for them, it exposes them to be fake

00:19:26.540 journalists who don't actually spend a lot of time or effort presenting facts. So this all would

00:19:33.080 have been bad enough. The special counsel report with the Putin interview. Then almost inexplicably,

00:19:41.640 Biden decides to hold a press conference as if you might not be certain that Biden is mentally

00:19:48.580 declining or declined. He says, no, no, no, I got to prove it. So as Putin is demonstrating his

00:19:55.240 acumen, his historical precision, his sophisticated statesmanship, Biden comes out and makes a big

00:20:03.780 fool of himself. Now, the press conference actually opened up pretty well. You can hear it here.

00:20:12.720 How bad is your memory? And can you continue as president?

00:20:17.760 My memory is so bad, I let you speak.

00:20:21.820 Do you know your memory has gotten worse, Mr. President?

00:20:25.680 My memory is fine. Take a look at what I've done since I've become president.

00:20:31.460 So there were lots of terrible answers from Biden here. I actually thought this answer was pretty

00:20:35.720 good. He gets a question from some conservative reporter. It sounds kind of like Peter Doocy,

00:20:39.800 but I assume every conservative reporter is Peter Doocy. And he says, how's your memory,

00:20:45.340 Mr. Biden, Mr. President? And Biden says, my memory is so bad that I called on you.

00:20:50.920 That's a funny answer. That's actually kind of a sharp answer. So his answers were not quite as bad

00:20:55.700 as people are saying. Even people are sending a clip around where it seems as though Biden is

00:21:02.140 forgetting the church that his son, his late son, Beau attended. I actually felt he was just getting

00:21:08.300 kind of choked up with emotion as one would if one son had died. And so that wasn't so bad.

00:21:13.080 The bad answers came when Biden confused Egypt and Mexico.

00:21:19.680 The conduct of the response in Gaza, in the Gaza Strip has been over the top.

00:21:34.100 I think that, as you know, initially, the president of Mexico, Sisi, did not want to open up the gate

00:21:47.580 to allow humanitarian material to get in. I talked to him. I convinced him to open the gate.

00:21:54.820 I talked to Bibi to open the gate on the Israeli side.

00:21:57.380 I talked to him. I said, hey, President Sisi, como estas?

00:22:02.800 Donde esta la biblioteca? And then he started speaking to me in Arabic. I had no idea that the

00:22:08.220 Mexicans even spoke Farsi. Anywho, I think we solved this Israel-Sweden problem. You know,

00:22:15.860 on the border, I think somewhere on the border of Israel and Tibet, we're going to finally solve 0.99

00:22:21.800 the illegal immigration crisis from Nicaragua. Thank you very much. Not a good answer. That was 0.84

00:22:27.620 that was a pretty bad lapse. And then when the press calls him out, he he gets angry for months

00:22:35.800 when you were asked about your age, you would respond with the words, watch me. Well, many

00:22:40.380 American people have been watching and they have expressed concerns about your age.

00:22:45.200 That is your judgment. That is your judgment. That is not the judgment of the press.

00:22:51.800 No, Mr. President, I am the press. It's bad enough. They say, Mr. President, a lot of people

00:22:58.240 are concerned about your age. And he says, no, no, that's your judgment. That answer could have

00:23:03.100 been OK. It's still you don't want to be seen as the angry, ornery old man. But but then he goes

00:23:10.020 and he says, that's your judgment. That's not the judgment of the press. Oh, wait, you are the press.

00:23:15.400 Well, let me call up my my friend CC. He's the president of Canada. And oh, wait, he's where am

00:23:23.940 I? Who's the president? Am I the president? Really bad, really bad answers. Really embarrassing,

00:23:30.580 unsettling just to see those two world leaders on display. Very unsettling for us. Very sad to see

00:23:37.460 what's going on with Joe Biden. The big political takeaway for me. Democrats want to kick him out.

00:23:45.160 He does not want to be kicked out. There are all these theories. Oh, Gavin Newsom is going to be

00:23:50.200 the top of the ticket. Oh, Michelle Obama is going to replace him at the convention. Oh,

00:23:53.780 unless this man is dead or on his deathbed, this man is not giving up power. Maybe some Democrats want

00:23:59.960 to replace him. Doesn't matter. This guy is not going anywhere of his own volition. They will have

00:24:06.100 to wheel him out of the White House kicking and screaming or stiff as a board because he is not

00:24:11.380 going to chose to go anywhere. Much more to say in just a moment. But first, right now, go to

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00:25:24.160 My favorite comment yesterday is from Linda Coutier, 1670, who says,

00:25:30.940 how exactly does one practice Satanism without Satan? This is the most blatant in-your-face

00:25:35.640 lie I've ever heard. Holy God, protect us from these people. Yes, yeah, we should pray to God,

00:25:41.060 certainly, and we should avoid Satanism. But the answer is pretty simple, actually.

00:25:45.180 Because Satanism is not about getting on your knees and bowing down and worshiping Satan.

00:25:50.700 I guess ultimately it is. But the means of Satanism has always been the worship of the

00:25:56.800 self. So if you asked most Satanists throughout history, what do you worship? They would say the

00:26:02.420 self. I mean, it goes back to the Garden of Eden when Satan tells Eve, ye shall be as gods. It's

00:26:06.840 about an exaltation and a worship and an idolatry of the self. And that's what it is today. Even when

00:26:12.680 the edgy Reddit-tier atheists come out and they say, you know, we don't actually worship Satan.

00:26:19.340 You stupid religious theistic idiots. No, we just worship ourselves. Like, uh-huh.

00:26:27.260 Yeah, right. That's how John Milton describes it, too. That's how the book of Genesis describes it,

00:26:32.260 too. Either of which the edgy Reddit-tier atheists have read. I'm very much looking forward to getting 1.00

00:26:42.420 to the pro-life Spider-Man. Two stories I've got to get to first. Speaking of presidential elections,

00:26:49.000 Clarence Thomas destroyed the liberal lawyer in the Colorado election case yesterday. It goes up to the

00:26:55.300 Supreme Court. This is the state of Colorado insisting that we, the states, have the right to kick a

00:27:02.400 presidential candidate off the ballot because of the 14th Amendment or something. Justice Thomas

00:27:07.640 knocks it down. It would seem that particularly after Reconstruction and after the compromise of 1877

00:27:18.260 and during the period of Redeemers that you would have that kind of conflict. There were a plethora

00:27:24.360 of Confederates still around. There were any number of people who would continue to either run for state

00:27:31.420 offices or national offices. So it seemed that that would suggest that there would at least be a few

00:27:38.380 examples of national candidates being disqualified, if your reading is correct.

00:27:46.960 Well, there were certainly national candidates who were disqualified by Congress refusing to seat

00:27:51.400 them. I understand that, but that's not this case. I'm right there. I love that. You know,

00:27:58.220 right from this answer that Colorado's got nothing, that these liberals who want to kick Trump off,

00:28:03.660 they've got nothing. You say, well, justice, I don't have any of the sort of examples that you would

00:28:09.260 are asking me for, but here's a totally irrelevant example. And Thomas having none of it goes,

00:28:13.980 yeah, yeah. Sure. I don't care about what you ordered at McDonald's last week, buddy. You don't

00:28:19.720 need to recite the poetry of Robert Frost to me. I'm asking for a very specific answer that pertains to

00:28:24.860 the very specific legal argument you guys are making, namely that the states have the right,

00:28:30.200 based on the 14th Amendment, to boot political candidates they don't like off the ballot. So

00:28:34.300 can you give me any example? We know that this is a Reconstruction-era provision of the 14th

00:28:39.980 Amendment to stop the Confederates from taking over the country. So that would be the time when 0.98

00:28:45.680 this kind of provision would be most exercised. Can you give me even one single example of it ever

00:28:51.080 being exercised in the way you claim 150 years later that you, Colorado, have a right to do?

00:28:57.000 And the lawyer says, uh, hummina, hummina, hummina.

00:29:00.300 Did states disqualify them? That's what we're talking about here. I understand Congress would not

00:29:05.700 seat them. Other than the example I gave, no. The states were sending people, uh, that the concern

00:29:11.620 was that the former Confederate states would continue being bad actors. And the effort was

00:29:18.460 to prevent them from doing this. And you're saying that, well, this also authorized states

00:29:23.560 to disqualify candidates. So what I'm asking you for, if you are right, what are the examples?

00:29:30.060 Well, your honor, the examples are states excluded many candidates for state office,

00:29:36.000 individuals holding state offices.

00:29:37.900 Put a pause here. Yeah, man, I know. The states do state things, sure. And the federal government

00:29:45.280 can, though they really didn't, do federal government things. The Congress took some actions,

00:29:51.040 but then they stopped taking those actions. Oh, yeah, sure. Okay. But the case that you're bringing,

00:29:55.640 buddy, is arguing that the states can disqualify a presidential candidate based on the 14th

00:30:02.880 amendment. So you're doing a big soft shoe around this issue. Can you give me one example? No.

00:30:09.340 A number of published cases of states. I understand that. I understand the states controlling state

00:30:16.480 elections and state positions. What we are talking about here are national candidates,

00:30:23.520 but they did not think. It's like Justice Thomas is explaining this to a 10-year-old. He's even

00:30:32.060 showing a great deal of sympathy here and compassion for this lawyer who is being obtuse. He probably

00:30:38.120 knows that he's got nothing, so he's dancing around it. But if he is really just this ignorant,

00:30:42.300 he's saying, no, the states and the federal government are different, and they're treated differently by the

00:30:51.640 law. So the case you're trying to make, sir, is X, Y, and Z. Keep going.

00:30:55.980 I think about authorizing the South to disqualify national candidates, and that's the argument you're

00:31:03.180 making. And what I would like to know is, do you have any examples of this?

00:31:09.480 Many of those historians have filed briefs in our support in this case, making the point that the idea

00:31:15.820 of the 14th Amendment was that both states and the federal government would ensure rights,

00:31:20.200 and that if states failed to do so, the federal government certainly would also step in.

00:31:24.680 So I don't think the history tells us.

00:31:26.120 I'd like to sort of look at Justice Thomas's question sort of from the 30,000-foot level.

00:31:31.020 I mean, the whole point of the 14th Amendment was to restrict state power, right? States shall not

00:31:37.180 abridge privileges immunity. They won't deprive people of property without due process.

00:31:42.960 They won't deny equal protection. And on the other hand, it augmented federal power under Section 5.

00:31:49.380 Congress has the power to enforce it. So wouldn't that be the last place that you'd look for

00:31:54.600 authorization for the states, including Confederate states, to enforce, implicitly authorized, to enforce

00:32:02.880 the presidential election process? That seems to be a position that is at war with the whole

00:32:12.420 thrust of the 14th Amendment and very ahistorical.

00:32:17.060 Oh, devastating. Because the person you hear at the end there is Chief Justice John Roberts,

00:32:20.780 who's kind of a squish, and he sides with the libs a lot. And even he's coming in and he's saying,

00:32:24.640 yo, Colorado, you got nothing, man. Actually, the provisions you're citing, they would be the last

00:32:31.300 place you'd go to make the sort of argument that you're making. So this, happily, this could be a

00:32:36.380 unanimous Supreme Court decision, for all we know, because Colorado doesn't have a leg to stand on.

00:32:41.920 Could be eight to one. You know, maybe it's, maybe either Ketanji Jackson or Sotomayor

00:32:47.860 side with Colorado. Maybe they're both quite partisan. Maybe it's seven to two. But I think,

00:32:55.780 I think it's pretty clear Trump is going to remain the nominee. And I think it's clear that Biden,

00:32:59.880 so long as he can breathe, is going to remain the nominee. And it's clear that Vladimir Putin is going

00:33:03.640 to remain the president of the Russian Federation. And who do you want going up against that guy?

00:33:10.200 I have a pretty clear answer. So much more to get to, but we've got to divert the rest of those

00:33:15.660 news stories because we have actual news coming on the show. That would be my friend, the pro-life

00:33:21.640 Spider-Man. That would be Maison de Champ. Mason, a man who engages in these kind of daredevil feats.

00:33:31.200 I mean, climbing all sorts of giant buildings. And in this case, we're talking about the sphere

00:33:35.960 in Las Vegas, just ahead of the Super Bowl, to raise money for pro-life causes and to raise

00:33:40.920 attention for pro-life causes. And he's a very impressive young man. Mason, thank you for coming

00:33:45.700 on the show. Thank you for having me on, Michael. Am I right to understand you just got out of jail

00:33:51.800 last night? Yeah, yeah. So it was a crazy experience. A lot of laws were broken by the

00:34:00.540 Las Vegas Police Department. They were detaining me for over three hours without telling me what

00:34:06.740 crime I actually committed. And while I was in handcuffs in the back of the police car, they

00:34:12.100 started debating abortion. So hopefully we can get some lawyers and make the Las Vegas Police

00:34:20.760 Department a pretty large pro-life donor. Wow. You say hopefully we can get some lawyers.

00:34:28.020 Do you currently have a lawyer? Are you in need of a lawyer? Oh, yeah. I have defense lawyers.

00:34:34.140 But I think the way they broke laws, I mean, they arrested every single person that was on the ground

00:34:41.480 for handing out pamphlets. There's this charge that they like to give to pro-lifers. And it seems to

00:34:48.580 only happen to pro-lifers. It's the charge of conspiracy. I mean, they had the worship leader of

00:34:54.920 my church at one point in handcuffs. I'm so glad my grandma didn't come because they would have had my

00:35:00.400 grandma in handcuffs. And honestly, I'm a little worried for you for just having me on this show

00:35:05.560 that they're going to give you a conspiracy charge, Michael. Well, we know that especially under Joe

00:35:11.880 Biden's administration, we know that the cops at the federal level and at the more local level

00:35:18.960 are much tougher on pro-lifers. And we've seen prosecutions via the FACE Act of pro-lifers who are

00:35:26.540 just praying around an abortion clinic. They'll be arrested for violating this bogus 1990s law

00:35:32.440 signed by Bill Clinton. We know that the feds are going in, kicking at the doors of pro-lifers

00:35:41.220 and arresting them for demonstrating outside of a planned parenthood, arresting these guys in front

00:35:46.860 of their seven kids. I mean, just really egregious, in-your-face kind of persecution of pro-lifers.

00:35:53.880 So I'm no surprised that they're going, not surprised at all, rather, that they're going

00:35:57.060 after you. What is the charge against you? They claimed that I damaged over a hundred thousand

00:36:05.520 dollars of their building, which is not true at all. When I got to the top, I planned on climbing

00:36:12.200 down and they got a socket wrench and took off one of the little panels for me to slide through and

00:36:21.600 then immediately put it back on. You know, they invited me inside. I took up their offer because

00:36:27.040 they had a police officer there. And so now we have a felony destruction of property charge

00:36:33.940 and a conspiracy to destroy property charge. When I paid my bail, they took me to the release room

00:36:41.440 and then they immediately took me back to another room because when the DA saw that we had paid the

00:36:46.600 bail, they slapped another charge on. And it wasn't until yesterday morning that my bondsman had seen

00:36:53.760 it. And luckily he's a Christian. So he paid that bail too and got me out of there. We still have three 1.00

00:37:00.640 people who are in jail right now, uh, for holding signs and handing out pamphlets basically. Um, but

00:37:08.560 you know, what I'll say, Michael, is I was really happy that when I got out of jail, you know, I

00:37:13.400 climbed these buildings to raise money for women. And that's really where I want to keep the focus on

00:37:18.020 is helping these women and saving these babies. And when I got out of jail, I saw that our fundraiser

00:37:24.060 was filled to the brim and it was a good sign because it made me, you know, reminded me that

00:37:31.220 what we're doing this for is, is worth it. We were able to save a baby because we climbed some silly

00:37:37.800 building. And, uh, you know, so what we did was we extended the fundraiser. And so all of the extra

00:37:45.140 money that we raised, we're going to save another baby with. So when you say, when you say you saved a

00:37:51.100 baby with it, I know you do a ton of pro-life work, but in this, what specifically do you mean

00:37:56.320 with this climb? Yeah. So let them live.org is based around the statistic that 73% of women 0.97

00:38:03.680 who have abortions do it because of financial circumstances. And when you go out and sidewalk

00:38:09.080 council in front of an abortion clinic, a lot of women, they simply just ignore you and walk into the 1.00

00:38:15.660 clinic and murder their children. And that's a sad thing is that a lot of people seem to forget that

00:38:21.080 these women, they're not going in there to clean their teeth. They're going in there to murder their 1.00

00:38:25.400 child. So we have to do anything and everything to keep them from committing this mortal sin as well

00:38:31.860 as support them and save their child. So we offer them, uh, you know, help with rent. Uh, we pay their

00:38:39.540 medical bills. We do anything and everything they need to not kill their child. That's, that's amazing.

00:38:46.600 So is there, is there a particular woman in mind here with this climb or is it just more generally

00:38:52.140 for any woman that you might encounter who has this financial reasoning for why, why they would 0.99

00:38:57.820 want to kill their kid? Yeah. So the woman we're helping out this time, uh, she is, her name is 0.76

00:39:04.740 Isabel. She is 11 weeks pregnant and she was homeless. So we're getting her an apartment. We're getting

00:39:10.320 her off the streets and we're trying to get her a job and, uh, just helping her out so that she can 0.99

00:39:16.100 be independent. I'm not sure whether she wants to keep the baby or put the baby up for adoption, 0.68

00:39:21.000 but, uh, I'm just happy that she's choosing life and came to let them live and that enough people

00:39:27.880 were able to pitch in and help support her. So this is, sorry, go on. The narrative is, is that

00:39:35.400 pro-lifers don't do anything to help these women. We're just, uh, you know, pro birth, but it's,

00:39:42.080 it's, it's a bunch of baloney. We, we, we put our money where our mouths are more than any other

00:39:46.720 kind of issue or any other movement. Of course. You always hear this though. You, you, you're only

00:39:51.660 pro fetus. Once the baby gets out, you don't care and you don't care about them. And it's just

00:39:55.420 obviously, uh, undercut by all of the charitable statistics, all of the, the examples of the sort

00:40:02.180 of work that you were doing. This appears to be the most serious charge that has ever been brought

00:40:08.740 against you. I mean, you've been detained after your climbs before, but most people just say,

00:40:12.540 okay, you know, no big deal. Whatever those good stunt, you raise money for a good cause. Okay. Bye

00:40:16.140 bye. Uh, what are you facing? I mean, are you facing jail time? Are you facing some major fine or

00:40:22.020 what, what, what does this felony charge really look like? Yeah. You know, I mean, uh, it's a felony

00:40:29.020 and, and two gross misdemeanors. I I'm sure that they're going to try to slap more on. Uh, luckily

00:40:35.120 my lawyers are going to take care of it. I, they broke so many laws that I'm not worried about the

00:40:40.960 charges at all, but that said, whether they want to throw me in jail and that's what ends up happening.

00:40:48.260 As long as we can save a baby, I'm not really too worried, Michael, because like what's happening

00:40:53.380 right now in America is a Holocaust. It's over 70 million babies murdered since Roe v. Wade alone. 0.56

00:41:00.480 So if, if me going to jail saves a life, that is literally the least that I can do.

00:41:07.880 It's a really powerful point. Uh, Mason, where can people support you? Either your legal fees or,

00:41:15.200 uh, the, this woman, Isabel, these other women or all of the above?

00:41:19.900 Yeah. They can go to let them live.org and donate and then go follow me on Instagram and

00:41:27.000 YouTube. And it's at pro-life dot Spider-Man at pro-life dot Spider-Man. So if they let you out

00:41:32.100 of the clink and they don't throw you in an orange jumpsuit for having the audacity to try to help a

00:41:36.200 homeless woman and save a baby, uh, what's the next climb going to be? I don't know, Michael,

00:41:41.700 I'm trying to look for one that maybe you could come with me on, you know, maybe I'll support you from

00:41:47.460 the bottom Mason. I'll have a cigar ready for you afterward, but I don't, you know, I was never

00:41:52.840 the most say it again. The Mayflower cigar, the Mayflower cigar. That'll be, that'll be my role.

00:41:59.240 We can all support. Some of us do the more bold and heroic actions. Some of us play more of a

00:42:05.180 supporting role. So I'll be there to, uh, give you a little, uh, relaxing smoke after the climb.

00:42:11.380 I just hope whatever the next big building is, uh, if, if these awful liberal politicians want

00:42:17.840 to punish you for helping a baby, I hope you just climb right out of that jail. You know, 0.74

00:42:21.580 I want to see you sort of climbing out like St. Peter, St. Paul, and, uh, and then you can continue

00:42:26.580 your very excellent work. Mason, thank you very much for everything you do and stay strong, pal.

00:42:32.680 And we'll talk to you next time. Thanks for having me on, Michael.

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00:43:12.900 Finally, finally, we've arrived at my favorite time of the week when I get to hear from you in

00:43:15.440 the mailbag. Mailbag is sponsored by pure talk at pure talk.com slash Knowles. Save an additional

00:43:20.980 55 0% off your first month. Take it away. Hi, Michael. It's the Shuck Meister. I had a question

00:43:27.680 about your brilliant showing on the whatever podcast. When you go onto these types of shows,

00:43:32.260 are you ever concerned about bringing yourself or your audience into the near occasion of sin?

00:43:37.540 I love that you treat all the women on the panel with dignity and don't dunk on them for social

00:43:41.920 points, but the women you talk to are all dressed pretty provocatively, speak about topics that are 1.00

00:43:47.080 intended to tempt certain desires, and there's a bunch of links to very degenerate content in the

00:43:52.500 video description. I appreciate that you're taking the same approach as our Lord who dined with sinners

00:43:56.960 and prostitutes, but said sinners and prostitutes weren't actively advertising their quote-unquote

00:44:02.220 content to a wider audience, particularly people in the creme de la creme who I hope wouldn't fall

00:44:07.420 into those temptations. I'm not trying to be the purity police, but it's just something I'm genuinely

00:44:11.800 curious about, and I wonder if there's a more prudent way to engage with these people. Let me know what

00:44:16.580 you think. Thanks. It's a fear, and I've thought of it, but I ultimately don't think it's too much

00:44:24.480 of a concern. I think it's still worth going on whatever, maybe some other shows. My chief goal

00:44:32.520 when I go on a show like the Whatever podcast is to convince these women to stop doing what they're 1.00

00:44:39.960 doing. That's my chief immediate goal, more than any show I'm putting on for the audience. If I were just

00:44:44.740 putting on a show for the audience, I would call the women big dumb idiots, as perhaps some of the 1.00

00:44:49.960 other guests do on the show, and probably then the clips would go more viral. My chief objective

00:44:55.760 is to convince these women to stop selling their bodies for sex. 0.98

00:45:03.160 Then when one stops going in the wrong direction, one can then turn around, go in the right direction.

00:45:07.920 That's my next goal. Then the general goal of going on a public forum is to convince the other people

00:45:19.080 who are at home that if they're in the woman's position, they should stop doing that, or if 0.99

00:45:23.880 they're in the position of the consumer, that they're like weird, creepy cucks for looking at

00:45:30.000 pornography, and they should cut it out because it's degrading to them and is harmful to the women. 1.00

00:45:34.420 So to your point, does just even appearing on the show, does that tempt people to subscribe to the

00:45:42.980 girls' OnlyFans websites or whatever? I don't think in particular because much of our conversation

00:45:52.080 chinks away at the facade that they present on their pornography websites. So to give an example,

00:46:00.620 I was talking to some of these girls, and they open up and they say, hey, subscribe to my OnlyFans. 0.99

00:46:04.700 We got really hot content, or jiggle around, or whatever. But very quickly then the girls admit,

00:46:10.900 oh, actually, I don't have really good relationships with men. And oh, actually, I have a stalker now,

00:46:16.000 and it's really dark, and I'm not allowed to use my real name. And sometimes I get kind of depressed

00:46:21.020 about it, and I really miss this person that I was in love with, and I can't get that back.

00:46:26.760 Actually, my life isn't that good, and it's really kind of bad and degraded. And it would seem to me

00:46:34.040 that exposing even porn customers or potential porn customers to the reality of that is much more

00:46:42.940 likely to discourage them from looking at the content than to entice them to look at it. But I

00:46:47.460 agree with you. It's a concern, and therefore requires a prudential judgment. Next question.

00:46:52.400 Hello, my goodness. This is Elmo. That's correct. Now, Elmo doesn't have a question for you. Elmo

00:47:02.560 just heard that you don't know how to talk like Elmo. And everyone should talk like Elmo. So,

00:47:09.860 Elmo will teach you. It's very easy. All you have to do is constrict the back of your throat.

00:47:16.460 You know your uvula? Yeah. You want to send that up into the back of your throat. And then you just

00:47:24.720 want to shut off your nasal passages so that you don't breathe through your nose. And that's how you

00:47:30.740 talk like Elmo. And just to give you an example, Elmo will reveal his real voice so you can see that

00:47:38.340 anybody can talk like Elmo. So, this is Elmo's real voice.

00:47:43.300 Hello, Michael Knowles. This is Elmo. And you just learned how to talk like Elmo.

00:47:51.400 I hope you have a fantastic day. Goodbye now.

00:47:58.540 Hmm. That's not a bad lesson. My only criticism of your Elmo is it's vaguely Hispanic. 1.00

00:48:04.640 You know, but otherwise, it was a very good one. And you did help me to, I think, improve my Elmo

00:48:14.580 impression. Next one.

00:48:16.440 Hi, Michael. Love your show. I'm from Colorado. And given the Supreme Court deliberations and the

00:48:24.540 likely outcome that will rule in favor of Trump, do you think that they will unify or divide the

00:48:31.760 country? Thank you. And thank you very much for everything you're doing.

00:48:36.220 Very kind. I think a court decision, even 7-2, but certainly 8-1 or 9-0, would unify the country.

00:48:45.920 Even, obviously, virtually all Republicans and most independents and even a huge number of Democrats

00:48:53.740 believe that the prosecutions of Trump are politically motivated and unjust.

00:49:02.280 Now, we're not even talking about all the prosecutions here. We're just focused on whether

00:49:06.160 the state can kick a presidential candidate off the ballot. I think that's a very, very unpopular

00:49:10.240 view, even among Democrats. So, I think a clear message from the Supreme Court would help to unify,

00:49:16.380 even if a lot of people still hate Trump or whatever. That is going to help to unify the

00:49:22.980 country. It's a low bar because we're saying, okay, you can't just willy-nilly kick people off

00:49:28.640 of the ballot. But that would be a good step in the right direction, and I will take it.

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