The Michael Knowles Show

00:00:00.000 According to a recent report in the Harvard Crimson, more than 30 Harvard student activists

00:00:05.780 just endured a 12-hour hunger strike in solidarity with the Palestinians in Gaza.

00:00:12.260 The students were eager to show their unwavering support for the Palestinians.

00:00:16.920 But then, around 5 p.m., those decadent little fatties started to get a bit peckish,

00:00:22.680 at which point they ended the fast and treated themselves to a sumptuous dinner,

00:00:27.460 ending the heroic political protest that most people less theatrically refer to as skipping lunch.

00:00:34.440 I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:55.260 Welcome back to the show.

00:00:57.460 Speaking of Free Palestine, there is a trans-identifying immigrant with Free Palestine

00:01:06.220 written on his or her, it's unclear, rifle, who just shot up Joel Ostrin's congregation,

00:01:12.140 which is one of the largest Protestant congregations in the United States.

00:01:16.000 So we will get to that a little bit later.

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00:02:26.760 12-hour hunger strike.

00:02:28.100 12, these are our elites.

00:02:31.700 These are the future leaders of America.

00:02:33.960 At Harvard, supposedly the most prestigious, most elite university.

00:02:39.060 We are toast.

00:02:40.220 If these are our elites, if they do not have the discipline, the commitment to make it past an early dinner

00:02:49.400 or whatever this hunger strike brought them to, we are totally toast.

00:02:54.460 We need to fix our issues.

00:02:58.100 In our country, as Senator J.D. Vance just made clear, it seems today that if you point out that

00:03:05.100 things aren't going very well in the United States, and maybe we should focus some of our attention on

00:03:09.180 the home front rather than trying to spread our empire even further overseas, you will be called

00:03:14.640 a Putin stooge, or a Xi Jinping stooge, or an anti-American blah, blah, blah.

00:03:20.080 Senator J.D. Vance, I think, just did an excellent job of shutting down this very, very stupid liberal argument.

00:03:26.660 At the same time that world leaders play armchair general with the Ukraine conflict, their own societies are decaying.

00:03:35.660 Not a single country, even the United States within the NATO alliance, has birth rates at replacement level.

00:03:44.660 We don't have enough families and children to continue as a nation, and yet we're talking about problems 6,000 miles away.

00:03:52.660 We are being invaded by up to 10 million illegal migrants over the course of Joe Biden's term in office, and we have apparently no president with willpower to stop that problem.

00:04:07.660 We have a fentanyl crisis that has led to the deaths of over 100,000 people per year in the last few years of our youngest and brightest people.

00:04:18.520 Mental health crises are skyrocketing.

00:04:21.800 Youth suicides are skyrocketing.

00:04:24.100 And every single place, not just the United States, but every single one of the countries in the NATO alliance, see similar, or in some cases, even more troubling dynamics on most of those metrics, from migration to economic malaise.

00:04:39.940 What are we doing, ladies and gentlemen?

00:04:42.840 China and Russia, if we want them to fear us, we need to rebuild our own countries.

00:04:47.600 There's the key.

00:04:49.320 If we want our geopolitical foes to fear us, we need to be fearsome.

00:04:55.900 We need to be formidable.

00:04:57.700 We're not going to trick them into fearing us.

00:05:00.840 Okay, and you heard all those problems that JD just outlined there, the immigration crisis, the drug crisis, the mental health crisis.

00:05:07.460 The biggest one is the first one he opened up with, which is we're a dying population.

00:05:13.000 Every single country in the West is literally dying because we're not getting married and we're not having kids.

00:05:20.900 So for the past 50 years or more, more than 50, now it's 53 years, we have had a birth rate below replacement levels.

00:05:28.460 And what the libs and the warmongering Republicans will tell you is, well, that's why we got to shake the saber all the more to scare off China and Russia.

00:05:40.260 We're not going to fool them, okay?

00:05:43.140 Russia also has a birth rate below replacement.

00:05:45.940 China has no problem having children.

00:05:47.440 They actually spent many decades trying to force their population not to have children.

00:05:52.100 And China is growing.

00:05:53.700 And China's economy is growing.

00:05:55.060 And you're not going to lie about the underlying fundamentals of these countries.

00:06:00.500 You're not going to fool your boss, you know, in a PowerPoint presentation and try to cook the numbers a little bit.

00:06:07.240 The numbers are very clear.

00:06:08.600 Our societies are not healthy.

00:06:11.540 And so if you want to have a big, strong American empire and you want to spread truth, justice in the American way, which some of the more interventionist neoconservatives want to do.

00:06:21.980 The libs want to go spread pride flags in Kandahar.

00:06:24.740 But some, I think, of the neoconservatives are well-meaning and they want to spread, you know, the American flag and hot dogs on the 4th of July and all the good stuff that America stands for.

00:06:34.640 Well, if you want to do that, we have to be a healthy country.

00:06:36.820 And to be a healthy country, we need to stop killing ourselves on drugs.

00:06:39.800 We need to have a functioning border.

00:06:41.480 We need to have children and get married and know what marriage is and know what a woman is.

00:06:46.520 And if you can't have that, you are not going to be the great global empire.

00:06:50.300 You're going to collapse as we are collapsing, as we have been collapsing for many years.

00:06:54.740 And whether you want to admit it or not, China knows it.

00:06:58.420 Russia knows we're on the decline, too.

00:07:00.940 That's why they're getting aggressive.

00:07:03.420 And you're not going to fool them.

00:07:05.200 You're not going to fool them.

00:07:05.880 You actually have to fix your problem.

00:07:08.180 J.D. Vance has been on a roll, by the way.

00:07:10.660 Because also yesterday, J.D. pointed out that in the Ukraine funding bill, there's a little hidden treat in there that should Donald Trump get elected again, should the liberal establishment somehow fail to prevent him from getting elected, they would be able to impeach him.

00:07:29.500 So J.D. Vance found in this Ukraine bill, which is no longer the border bill.

00:07:35.580 Remember, initially, the Republican squishes.

00:07:38.860 They said, okay, we got this great border security bill.

00:07:41.240 And it doesn't actually secure the border.

00:07:43.440 And it actually increases mass migration.

00:07:45.760 And it actually increases illegal immigration.

00:07:48.040 But don't worry, because most of the money goes to Ukraine for some reason in this border security bill.

00:07:52.380 And then all the normal Republicans said, excuse me, this is completely unacceptable.

00:07:56.100 This is the exact opposite of what we want.

00:07:57.940 Are you crazy?

00:07:58.740 They said, okay, great.

00:07:59.440 We'll scrap the border part entirely.

00:08:01.180 Now we'll just fund Ukraine.

00:08:02.540 We said, well, hold on.

00:08:03.040 We don't exactly want to do that either.

00:08:04.820 But it gets even worse because in this Ukraine funding bill, there is a provision.

00:08:09.640 Well, I'll just read what J.D. said.

00:08:11.060 He said, quote, buried in the bill's text is an impeachment time bomb for the next Trump presidency.

00:08:15.660 If he tries to stop funding the war in Ukraine, we must vote against this disastrous bill.

00:08:21.560 So what's the time bomb?

00:08:22.740 The time bomb is that money is going to be allocated to Ukraine.

00:08:25.400 And if Donald Trump doesn't give it to Ukraine in due time, if Donald Trump decides he wants to change foreign policy,

00:08:32.360 which is his prerogative, then they can impeach him.

00:08:35.000 And I know what the liberals and the establishment GOP types are going to say.

00:08:39.260 They're going to say, oh, Michael, this is a crazy conspiracy theory.

00:08:43.820 You know, you're digging around in the bill.

00:08:45.780 This is already what the actual GOP establishment legislators have said.

00:08:49.160 This is so ridiculous.

00:08:51.760 Why on earth would we do that?

00:08:54.380 How would you come to this conclusion?

00:08:55.920 I'll tell you how I came to this conclusion.

00:08:58.440 Because you already did this.

00:09:00.280 You already did precisely this with Ukraine funding.

00:09:04.820 In 2019, the first time that the Democrats impeached Trump, they impeached him on this basis.

00:09:11.380 That they wanted to give money to Ukraine.

00:09:13.620 And the commander in chief and the leader of American foreign policy dragged his feet a little bit on it.

00:09:19.620 And as a result, they impeached him.

00:09:21.440 So they're just setting it up to do the exact same thing here.

00:09:24.080 Because they just can't accept him being president.

00:09:27.340 So they're going to spy on his campaign.

00:09:29.080 Then they're going to appoint a special counsel to accuse him of colluding with Russia.

00:09:32.160 Then when that flops, they're going to appoint, they're going to impeach him for colluding with Ukraine.

00:09:36.400 And then when that flops, they're going to change all the voting rules and rig the election in the key states.

00:09:42.160 Illegally, unconstitutionally in some cases.

00:09:44.620 And then when that doesn't work, they're going to rinse and repeat.

00:09:48.240 They're going to go back to the same old strategies.

00:09:50.400 And they're going to keep doing it.

00:09:51.700 It's like Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner.

00:09:55.100 Trump, for his part, is staying the course.

00:09:58.020 The Trump outrage du jour, with respect to NATO specifically, is that Donald Trump, I'll say it the way they say it.

00:10:08.840 Donald Trump is giving Putin everything he wants.

00:10:14.040 He's betraying our NATO allies.

00:10:17.180 He's inviting the Russians to invade NATO-aligned countries.

00:10:24.240 Take it away.

00:10:25.280 We're at 200.

00:10:26.660 There are 250.

00:10:27.440 I did the same thing with NATO.

00:10:28.700 I got them to pay up.

00:10:29.780 NATO was busted until I came along.

00:10:32.200 I said, everybody's going to pay.

00:10:33.460 They said, well, if we don't pay, are you still going to protect us?

00:10:37.180 I said, absolutely not.

00:10:38.480 They couldn't believe the answer.

00:10:39.680 And everybody, you never saw more money pour in.

00:10:43.900 The Secretary General Stoltenberg, I don't know if he is anymore, but he was my biggest fan.

00:10:49.140 He said, all these presidents came in, they'd make a speech, they'd leave, and that was it.

00:10:52.740 And they all owed money, and they wouldn't pay it.

00:10:55.880 I came in, I made a speech, and I said, you've got to pay up.

00:10:58.580 They asked me that question.

00:10:59.900 One of the presidents of a big country stood up and said, well, sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by Russia, will you protect us?

00:11:08.460 I said, you didn't pay, you're delinquent.

00:11:11.840 He said, yes, let's say that happened.

00:11:14.460 No, I would not protect you.

00:11:15.940 In fact, I would encourage them to do whatever the hell they want.

00:11:19.080 You've got to pay.

00:11:19.880 You've got to pay your bills.

00:11:23.160 And the money came flowing in.

00:11:25.680 And the money came flowing in.

00:11:26.960 That's the key part.

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00:12:45.540 Trump says, yeah, I told these guys.

00:12:48.740 They asked me, what would happen if we didn't pay our NATO bills?

00:12:52.100 Would you allow Russia to invade us?

00:12:54.680 I said, allow them.

00:12:55.380 I'd encourage them to.

00:12:56.320 Pay your bills.

00:12:57.580 And the money came flowing in.

00:12:59.100 Donald Trump betrays his NATO allies, invites Russia to invade.

00:13:06.560 No, that's not exactly what happens.

00:13:08.480 There's a phrase.

00:13:10.220 Maybe those of us who have spent a little bit of time in New York are more familiar with the way that Donald Trump is speaking here.

00:13:17.500 There's a phrase.

00:13:18.240 It's kind of vulgar, so I'll use a nicer version of it.

00:13:20.340 This is called busting chops, okay?

00:13:25.080 There's an even more precise phrase, but we say busting chops.

00:13:28.920 That's what he's doing here.

00:13:31.060 Donald Trump is not literally calling for Russia to invade a NATO-allied country.

00:13:37.320 Donald Trump is saying, I'm serious.

00:13:40.200 Pay your bills or else.

00:13:42.720 Pay your bills.

00:13:44.320 You owe us money.

00:13:45.820 Give me that money.

00:13:46.800 Run your pockets.

00:13:47.540 Give me what you owe me.

00:13:50.780 That's what he's saying, okay?

00:13:52.520 And that's a good thing to say.

00:13:54.340 It's a good thing to say from really any perspective on the country.

00:14:00.000 There's some people who view America as just another nation among other nations.

00:14:05.560 And if we're just another nation among other nations, and we just have this alliance where we're all just equals, we're all just equal partners, it's called NATO, then certainly everyone has to pay their fair share, right?

00:14:17.620 Now, some people don't view America as just a nation among other nations.

00:14:21.560 Some people view America as the leader of the world, as the global empire, as the world police.

00:14:27.140 I'm not even saying this is a bad thing.

00:14:28.600 And probably it's closer to reality than the former perspective.

00:14:31.080 Okay, well, if we're the global empire and the NATO allies are really just kind of vassal states in our broad empire, then they got to pay up too because vassal states pay tribute to the imperial power.

00:14:46.560 The money's got to come from somewhere, okay?

00:14:49.680 And so the only perspective on America that would lead you to the conclusion that the NATO allies don't need to pay a penny is the view that America is just nothing.

00:14:59.960 We're nothing but a tax base to farm, to send out to the pet projects of global elites all over the world.

00:15:07.160 No reasonable person has that view of America.

00:15:10.220 That's the bad guys and the lunatics who have that view of America.

00:15:13.320 So whether you're a hardcore nationalist, whether you're the most hardcore imperialist neocon there is, either way, the NATO allies have to pay up.

00:15:21.760 And the key to Trump's speech is, and the money came flowing in, it worked.

00:15:26.760 That tactic worked very well.

00:15:29.180 The official policy of the United States is all the NATO allies have to pay.

00:15:32.560 And then they all ignore it because they know the president's too weak to make them actually do it.

00:15:35.700 And then Trump comes in and he says, I'm going to make you do it.

00:15:38.100 And they ask him, they say, yeah, but do we really have to?

00:15:40.760 Like, I know you said that, but do, like, do we really have to?

00:15:43.640 He goes, yeah.

00:15:45.260 Yeah, but like, is anything bad going to happen to us if we don't?

00:15:48.560 Yeah, I'm going to tell Putin to take over your country.

00:15:50.460 That's what's going to happen.

00:15:51.300 Oh, okay, well, here's the money, Donald.

00:15:53.060 Okay, thank you very much.

00:15:54.420 Good.

00:15:54.920 That's good.

00:15:57.220 That's, it's not the way maybe that liberal elites like to talk to one another, but.

00:16:04.640 That's the way men talk to each other.

00:16:06.240 Okay, that's, that's called busting chops.

00:16:08.000 It's all right.

00:16:09.440 It's okay to do that.

00:16:10.760 Speaking of other nations stepping up, Ecuador.

00:16:15.460 We've talked a lot about El Salvador, which went from being the most dangerous country

00:16:19.220 in the world to being the safest country in the Western Hemisphere because Naive Bukele

00:16:23.920 became the leader of El Salvador and arrested all the criminals and was just recently reelected

00:16:29.380 with 85% of the vote because it turns out people like it when you arrest all the criminals.

00:16:32.840 Well, Ecuador has been facing a similar problem.

00:16:35.920 Over the past two, three months now, a major gang leader escaped from prison.

00:16:41.740 This would be Jose Adolfo Macias Villamar.

00:16:46.320 He's the leader of Los Choneros.

00:16:49.180 He escaped from prison in Guayaquil.

00:16:51.480 I'm sure I'm butchering all of these names.

00:16:53.400 This was the day of his scheduled transfer to a maximum security prison, and that was on

00:16:59.100 January 7th.

00:17:00.000 At that point, crime goes through the roof.

00:17:03.060 There was actually, you probably saw this clip, a group of criminals who busted into a TV studio

00:17:09.060 while they were live on air and held the anchor hostage and the producers hostage at gunpoint.

00:17:14.120 So you can see, you've still got the TV host speaking into the camera, and these masked gunmen bust in.

00:17:23.800 One has a, looks like a shotgun, pistols, people down on the ground, bad-looking stuff.

00:17:33.500 Really, really bad-looking stuff.

00:17:34.940 So, after this happens, Ecuador President Daniel Noboa effectively declares martial law.

00:17:43.380 They're calling this the Noboa way.

00:17:46.320 He changed the gang's designations from being mere criminal targets to being military targets.

00:17:53.360 He unleashed the hounds, not quite as aggressively as Bukele in El Salvador, but it was pretty tough.

00:18:02.480 And guess what happened?

00:18:03.580 You're not going to believe this.

00:18:05.640 The crime went down.

00:18:07.240 Noboa had begun his crackdown on the gangs in December, and from December to January,

00:18:13.600 so this is before the real acceleration, the number of killings in Guayaquil, or however it is pronounced,

00:18:19.340 dropped by 33%.

00:18:20.980 He then, ramped this up even further, jailed hundreds of suspected gang leaders,

00:18:28.060 reestablished control of the prisons which had been taken over by the gangs,

00:18:31.220 and some other institutions.

00:18:32.680 He started just stopping fighting-aged men in the streets, searching them for drugs, searching them for weapons.

00:18:39.220 When they were bad guys, he would arrest them, throw them in the can.

00:18:42.060 And guess what his approval rating is right now?

00:18:44.060 76%, not quite as high as Bukele's.

00:18:48.520 Bukele, who rounded these people up like animals, this satanic gang, MS-13, put them in cages,

00:18:54.980 made a big display, humiliated them before the entire world.

00:18:57.740 And guess what? El Salvador is much safer now.

00:19:00.000 But Noboa is pretty close, and his approval rating is going up in direct proportion to how close to Bukele's policy he's getting.

00:19:08.500 All of which is to say, not only that it turns out that when you lock up the criminals, the crime decreases,

00:19:16.040 all of which is to say, if Ecuador can do it, why can't we do it?

00:19:22.440 We have crime skyrocketing too.

00:19:26.100 New York is much less safe today than it was 10 years ago.

00:19:30.220 San Francisco, much less safe today than it was 10 years ago.

00:19:32.820 Philadelphia, cities all over this country, LA even.

00:19:37.980 If Ecuador can do it, if El Salvador can do it, why can't we?

00:19:41.540 And the answer is, we can.

00:19:44.440 We could do that in two seconds.

00:19:46.140 It doesn't take a Bukele.

00:19:47.780 This is the proof.

00:19:48.780 If Bukele were a one-off leader, he's very talented, but if he were the only guy in the world who can do this,

00:19:53.720 then they wouldn't be doing it in Ecuador too.

00:19:55.620 But they are.

00:19:57.180 And actually, let's move out of Latin America for a second.

00:20:00.740 How about in Hungary?

00:20:02.680 Hungary's done a great job turning this country around.

00:20:05.640 If Hungary can do it, why can't the United States do it?

00:20:08.120 Tucker recently went viral on this point.

00:20:11.340 Just yesterday, Tucker went viral discussing his recent trip to Moscow to interview Vladimir Putin

00:20:16.960 and his surprise that the Moscow subways were nicer than New York subways.

00:20:22.060 What was radicalizing, very shocking and very disturbing for me was the city of Moscow,

00:20:26.300 where I'd never been, the biggest city in Europe, 13 million people.

00:20:28.980 And it is so much nicer than any city in my country.

00:20:32.160 I had no idea.

00:20:33.440 My father spent a lot of time there in the 80s when he worked for the U.S. government and barely had electricity.

00:20:38.160 And now it is so much cleaner and safer and prettier aesthetically.

00:20:42.580 It's architecture, it's food, it's service.

00:20:45.820 Then any country, city in the United States that you have to, and this is non-ideological, how did that happen?

00:20:50.760 How did that happen?

00:20:52.160 And at a certain point, I don't think the average person cares as much about abstractions as about the concrete reality of his life.

00:20:58.260 And if you can't use your subway, for example, as many people are afraid to in New York City because it's too dangerous,

00:21:05.120 you have to sort of wonder, like, isn't that the ultimate measure of leadership?

00:21:08.700 And that's true, by the way, it's radicalizing for an American to go to Moscow, I didn't know that, I've learned it this week,

00:21:13.980 to Singapore, to Tokyo, to Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

00:21:17.380 Right? Because these cities, no matter how we're told they're run and on what principles they're run,

00:21:23.320 are wonderful places to live, that don't have rampant inflation, where you're not going to get raped.

00:21:28.200 Sir, excuse me.

00:21:29.680 What is that?

00:21:30.720 Excuse me, excuse me, stop saying nice things about these places.

00:21:34.760 The key here, the least discussed part of Tucker's commentary here that I think is probably the most interesting,

00:21:40.660 is the 80s part.

00:21:41.920 Because Tucker's saying, in the 80s, Moscow wasn't nice, but now it is nice.

00:21:48.160 Amazing how quickly things can change.

00:21:50.580 What changed?

00:21:52.460 Political leaders just made a decision.

00:21:56.380 We could fix it.

00:21:58.040 We could fix the crime problem.

00:21:59.860 We could fix the immigration problem.

00:22:01.540 We could fix all of these problems in the United States overnight.

00:22:05.020 There's some problems that take a little bit longer, like the debt and deficit problem,

00:22:08.860 like the entitlement problem, like the decline of belief in our civic institutions.

00:22:15.300 That might take a little bit longer.

00:22:16.420 But just the nuts and bolts, the crime, the migration, the enforcing the border, we could fix that overnight.

00:22:22.780 We won't, because our leaders don't want to.

00:22:24.980 The other striking thing when you're an American and you travel overseas,

00:22:28.440 that Tucker didn't mention here, is how much more powerful the U.S. is than every country on Earth.

00:22:35.140 I've gotten to travel a fair bit all around the world, and you just notice,

00:22:38.700 especially if you travel during an election year,

00:22:40.120 everyone's paying attention to the American election, because America is the global empire.

00:22:43.900 We're so much more powerful than every other country on Earth, most of them combined.

00:22:47.400 So if these countries that are relatively much less powerful can turn around their problems so quickly,

00:22:54.940 why won't we?

00:22:55.880 And the answer is a little bit depressing, though it's good to have clarity on it,

00:23:01.920 which is we have a crime problem.

00:23:03.760 We have an immigration problem, because that is precisely what our political leaders want.

00:23:07.580 Listen up.

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00:23:48.760 Speaking of how we treat ourselves,

00:23:51.680 Sonny Hostin, a host at The View, who is black, or is she?

00:23:58.900 She recently went on the show of Henry Louis Gates.

00:24:02.000 He's a liberal Harvard professor of Obama Beer Summit fame.

00:24:07.620 Remember, he got hassled by the police a little bit,

00:24:09.920 and then Obama weighed in and attacked the police,

00:24:11.860 and then they all had a beer together for some reason.

00:24:13.640 Anyway, and I'm going too much into detail here.

00:24:16.380 Sonny Hostin went on his show,

00:24:18.160 because he has a show where he traces people's genealogy back,

00:24:21.020 and she discovered she's a descendant of slaveholders.

00:24:26.100 I'm a little bit in shock.

00:24:30.920 I just always thought of myself as Puerto Rican,

00:24:33.420 you know, half Puerto Rican.

00:24:34.860 I didn't think I was,

00:24:36.900 my family was originally from Spain and slaveholders.

00:24:40.900 Yeah.

00:24:42.520 So how are you feeling, my friend?

00:24:44.740 I just, I think it's actually pretty interesting

00:24:48.820 that my husband and I have shared roots.

00:24:52.620 Yeah.

00:24:52.860 So I do appreciate that,

00:24:55.520 and I think it's great for our children

00:24:57.580 to know this information.

00:25:01.840 I guess it's a fact of life

00:25:03.440 that this is how some people made their living

00:25:06.720 on the backs of others.

00:25:09.040 Yeah, it's a fact of life, huh?

00:25:11.500 It's really shocking.

00:25:12.600 It's, ooh, it's kind of depressing.

00:25:14.180 Ooh, it's kind of, uh-oh.

00:25:16.160 Then she goes on The View,

00:25:17.340 and her View co-hosts say,

00:25:19.180 hold on, Sonny, you've for so long

00:25:22.660 been a promoter of reparations for slavery.

00:25:27.200 Now that it turns out you're a descendant

00:25:29.600 of slaveholders, does that change your view?

00:25:32.220 When I spoke to my mom about it,

00:25:33.680 she was deeply disappointed.

00:25:35.380 She actually cried about it.

00:25:36.980 And then she said,

00:25:37.800 maybe that's why I have been so connected

00:25:40.060 to black culture,

00:25:41.000 because it's an atonement in my spirit.

00:25:43.160 And I received that.

00:25:46.700 I also found out that,

00:25:48.500 and there were slaves on both sides of her family,

00:25:50.220 mothers and fathers,

00:25:51.220 but we are 7% indigenous Puerto Rican,

00:25:53.960 Daino.

00:25:55.300 So I'm proud of that.

00:25:57.160 I still believe in reparations, by the way,

00:25:58.960 so y'all can stop texting me

00:26:00.600 and emailing me and saying that I'm a white girl

00:26:02.820 and that I don't deserve reparations.

00:26:05.220 That's, I still believe that...

00:26:06.700 Someone did that to you?

00:26:07.520 Yeah.

00:26:07.660 I don't know who sent her a thing

00:26:09.860 telling her she was a white girl.

00:26:11.320 Okay, it's too much, people.

00:26:13.940 But clean off your television screen.

00:26:16.860 Yeah, that's a lot.

00:26:18.840 So I still believe in reparations.

00:26:21.380 I still believe this country has a lot to do

00:26:23.400 in terms of racial justice.

00:26:25.120 I still believe in reparations,

00:26:26.380 and I still believe that I deserve them,

00:26:27.820 even though I am descended from slaveholders.

00:26:31.420 Why does Sunny Hostin get to pick

00:26:33.540 which ancestors count?

00:26:36.420 Why does she get to do that,

00:26:37.700 but we don't get to do that?

00:26:38.600 She says, first of all, it's so pathetic.

00:26:40.280 She says, look, I'm still descended from slaves,

00:26:43.320 so I still get my black card,

00:26:44.900 and I'm also descended from Taino Indians.

00:26:49.340 I'm really happy about that.

00:26:50.940 I'm so happy.

00:26:51.720 I'd be so depressed if I were white,

00:26:53.360 because it's evil to be white,

00:26:54.360 because it's the worst thing you could possibly be.

00:26:56.360 But I am part white,

00:26:58.480 and specifically like slaveholders,

00:27:00.540 but we're just going to ignore that,

00:27:01.900 and I still deserve reparations,

00:27:03.380 because the white ancestors don't count,

00:27:05.920 because white people are terrible,

00:27:07.120 and whites have no culture,

00:27:08.580 and even they have a culture which is evil,

00:27:10.860 and that's why we have to punish them.

00:27:12.300 But even though I'm part white,

00:27:13.720 you don't have to count that part.

00:27:15.000 You only count the good part,

00:27:16.220 which is the indigenous part and the black part.

00:27:18.080 Give me my reparations.

00:27:20.800 So does this work for all of us?

00:27:23.500 I, despite my swarthy complexion,

00:27:26.420 I am, as long as you count Sicilians and Italians as white,

00:27:29.460 which is, I suppose, somewhat controversial.

00:27:32.620 Then I'm totally white.

00:27:34.480 Completely not one drop of exotic ancestry in me.

00:27:40.740 Just the lowest we go is Sicily,

00:27:42.720 sometimes called North Africa.

00:27:44.000 So maybe, but then all the way up to Scotland.

00:27:47.840 That's pretty much where my ancestry is.

00:27:50.760 So by Sonny Hostin's standards,

00:27:53.060 I guess I'm totally evil.

00:27:54.900 I need to totally contribute to reparations.

00:27:57.620 I don't get any reparations out of it.

00:27:59.460 Even though the largest mass lynching in American history,

00:28:01.840 by the way, took place against Italians,

00:28:04.440 which that's also written out of our history,

00:28:06.800 but I'll leave the racial grievance to other people.

00:28:09.960 One of my ancestors, George,

00:28:11.720 I guess he's slightly, because he died.

00:28:13.360 He's slightly, he's like a great, great, great, great uncle.

00:28:15.680 George Cobb Knowles.

00:28:16.740 He fought for the union in the Civil War.

00:28:20.680 He died at the Battle of Boynton Plank Road.

00:28:24.200 So am I absolved?

00:28:25.820 Do I have to pay the reparations to Sonny Hostin?

00:28:28.480 I don't have any slaveholders in my ancestry.

00:28:31.120 Sonny Hostin does.

00:28:32.720 So shouldn't she be chipping into the reparations?

00:28:34.940 Why do I have to chip in?

00:28:36.740 I have relatives who died in the Civil War for the cause of abolition.

00:28:41.060 She didn't.

00:28:42.060 Does she, right?

00:28:42.760 She's, oh, she got people who were defending slavery.

00:28:46.540 Why do, how come she gets to pick which ancestors count?

00:28:50.160 And she's totally absolved of any historical guilt, but I don't.

00:28:55.440 I, who actually don't seem to have a ton of historical baggage by the modern standards.

00:29:01.180 How come I, just by being a white guy, even a vaguely white guy, I'm pretty tan.

00:29:04.980 I, how does any of this make any sense?

00:29:07.520 It doesn't, obviously.

00:29:10.880 They're just sort of making it up as they go along.

00:29:14.200 Sonny Hostin went into that Henry Louis Gates episode with the conclusion, which is,

00:29:18.860 I am victim.

00:29:19.780 I deserve your money.

00:29:21.160 I deserve your pity.

00:29:22.460 White people evil.

00:29:23.500 Don't call me white person.

00:29:25.320 How dare you?

00:29:25.920 She'll go on The View later.

00:29:26.720 She said, don't you dare.

00:29:27.580 Stop calling me white.

00:29:29.040 It's like calling someone evil.

00:29:30.020 It's like calling someone a Nazi.

00:29:31.260 It's like calling, it's just, it's the worst thing you could be called.

00:29:33.320 She went in with that conclusion.

00:29:36.380 And then Henry Louis Gates says, hey, so the facts are you're a descendant of the people

00:29:40.760 that you consider the most evil people in the world.

00:29:43.620 She says, nah, la, la, la, la, la, doesn't matter.

00:29:47.480 I'm 7% Taino.

00:29:48.900 I'm good.

00:29:49.940 I'm fine.

00:29:50.760 La, la, la, la, la, la.

00:29:52.740 The folly of it all, though, of course, is that one, if you trace your ancestry back,

00:29:57.760 even one generation, you'll find plenty of evil things because the imagination of man's

00:30:01.680 heart is evil from his youth.

00:30:03.320 You don't even have to trace your ancestry back.

00:30:04.860 You can just look at yourself and you've committed all sorts of evil things.

00:30:07.300 And if you go, if you believe as Christians do in human solidarity, if you think that we

00:30:11.660 all came from a single set of ancestors who we call Adam and Eve, then you believe that

00:30:18.500 we all share in the fallenness of human nature, undertaken by an abuse of the free will of

00:30:23.740 our first parents.

00:30:25.140 But that's fallen.

00:30:26.360 That view is now called superstitious and crazy and ridiculous.

00:30:29.260 So instead, we end up with the justifications of Sonny Hauston, which seem a little crazier

00:30:35.300 and more ridiculous if you ask me.

00:30:39.120 Speaking of liberation movements, really, really sad story.

00:30:43.360 A lunatic who was allegedly a trans-identifying person who is an immigrant just shot up a church,

00:30:57.180 Joel Osteen's church, which is one of the largest, I think the largest Protestant congregation

00:31:02.360 in the United States, has something like 45,000 people weekly attend.

00:31:07.380 And we're trying to figure out the motives, of course, but I think the free Palestine

00:31:13.740 on the gun and the transgender identity would suggest this is a person who is a little bit

00:31:20.540 more on the left side of the spectrum and also insane.

00:31:25.480 But we're not allowed to say that anymore.

00:31:27.620 We're really, I'm not just saying, oh, our culture's so stifling that we're not allowed.

00:31:31.880 I mean, I just, I actually mean, I'll probably be bleeped on YouTube for saying that if you're

00:31:37.360 a man who thinks that he's a woman or a woman who thinks that she is a man, that you're just

00:31:42.240 by definition insane and you're not in your right faculties and you should be given psychiatric

00:31:46.880 help and you should not be permitted to go out and purchase guns and go shoot people.

00:31:53.540 We've seen a lot of these trans-identifying shooters go in and commit all sorts of terrible

00:31:58.320 crimes.

00:31:58.540 It's been almost a year now since the Nashville shooting where a trans-identifying maniac

00:32:04.160 went in and shot up a little Christian school and targeted little kids.

00:32:07.800 We still haven't seen that manifesto and we haven't seen it because the authorities don't

00:32:11.480 want us to see it because it has a politically inconvenient narrative to it.

00:32:15.540 When it's a white guy shooter, when it's an angry white guy shooter who likes Hitler or

00:32:18.940 something, we get that manifesto before the shooting is finished.

00:32:22.100 But when it's a trans-identifying shooter who's clearly motivated by left-wing politics,

00:32:26.520 then we don't get the manifesto.

00:32:28.560 And here, it's not just the alleged trans-identity of the shooter.

00:32:32.740 It's also the free Palestine stuff, which whatever your views on the Israel-Palestine

00:32:36.940 conflict, it seems pretty clear to me that the free Palestine protesters are 99.999% radical

00:32:44.820 left.

00:32:45.800 And so you won't hear very much about this.

00:32:48.240 The facts that we do know are that off-duty officers came and prevented this from being

00:32:55.120 a much larger tragedy.

00:32:56.360 It's a 28-year-old Houston cop and a 38-year-old agent with the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission.

00:33:03.380 The only reason we even think the shooter is trans-identifying is that she or he, I don't

00:33:10.020 even know because this person is kind of short but is also an immigrant from Latin America.

00:33:15.580 And Latin Americans are not necessarily the tallest people in the world.

00:33:19.200 So on this person's lengthy arrest records, you have the name Jeffrey, but then you also

00:33:24.660 have a woman's name.

00:33:25.600 And it's just totally unclear.

00:33:30.040 My main takeaway from all of this, first of all, I think that this person brought a child

00:33:34.760 in and the child was in critical condition.

00:33:36.740 We can pray that the child comes out all right.

00:33:38.540 I haven't seen any updates on this.

00:33:39.820 Um, another guy was shot in the leg, but luckily not a ton of deaths.

00:33:45.480 My main conclusion here is it's always the ones you most expect.

00:33:51.980 It's all, it's always the ones you most expect.

00:33:55.100 Forget about, we've seen a lot of these trans-identifying shooters.

00:33:58.940 So if, if we locked up or, or put some limits, psychiatric and prudent political limits on

00:34:06.560 people who are obviously not in control of their rational faculties, maybe you'd get less

00:34:09.680 of this kind of violence.

00:34:11.100 But, but even beyond that, because I know what the libs are going to say.

00:34:13.740 You're going to say, well, a lot of the shooters in these sorts of incidents are white kids.

00:34:18.720 Uh, yeah, sometimes I guess.

00:34:20.940 But what are the other things that unite them?

00:34:23.280 Virtually all of them are fatherless.

00:34:25.200 Virtually all of them are on heavy psychiatric drugs.

00:34:28.980 Virtually all of them are neglected by their schools.

00:34:32.420 The schools don't want to take disciplinary action because we live in a culture now that,

00:34:36.320 that says don't, don't punish anybody.

00:34:38.820 A lot of them have criminal records, but we're told, no, let the criminals out of prison.

00:34:43.140 So how about we just fix those problems?

00:34:45.000 I guess what's so, it ties in with all the other stories we're talking about today.

00:34:50.180 These awful incidents are made especially awful because they're so predictable.

00:34:55.200 And we all know it and we could fix it overnight.

00:35:00.160 We could reduce these kinds of incidents by probably 90 to 95% overnight if our political

00:35:06.680 leaders wanted to, but they don't want to.

00:35:09.800 So they don't.

00:35:10.840 So everything that leads into this kind of a shooting, mass migration, first of all,

00:35:17.540 and how about we just have less migration and how about we deal with the border?

00:35:21.380 Very simple.

00:35:22.420 Every crime that an illegal alien commits is on the, on blood on the hands of the people

00:35:28.780 who want open borders.

00:35:30.100 But even if this person were a legal immigrant, I don't know if this person were a legal immigrant,

00:35:33.420 mass migration just causes a lot of social problems.

00:35:35.520 Maybe we need to reduce that.

00:35:36.520 That's what most Americans want to do anyway.

00:35:38.340 Totally simple.

00:35:39.180 Totally easy.

00:35:39.780 Men can't be women.

00:35:41.640 We all know that to be the case.

00:35:43.220 And it's just some perversion of the will or of the intellect that leads some people to

00:35:47.080 insist that men can be women.

00:35:48.880 We could fix that overnight because our society for until about seven or eight years ago just

00:35:54.340 operated that way.

00:35:55.140 So we could just fix that.

00:35:55.880 We just go back to the way things always were and the, the proliferation of this, that

00:36:01.760 particular sexual pathology that would disappear immediately.

00:36:04.920 We could, what else?

00:36:06.960 We could discourage divorce.

00:36:08.500 We now encourage divorce in our country because we have no fault divorce.

00:36:12.280 And because we, we deny the sacramental nature of marriage and because we deny the complementarity

00:36:19.320 of the sexes and because we're just deeply selfish and individualistic about this.

00:36:24.680 Well, if we just went back to the way things used to be and recognize that marriage is the

00:36:28.000 building block of society and that when you make a vow before the public and before God

00:36:32.340 and before a minister and to the other person, you got to stick to that.

00:36:35.100 And if you are going to get divorced because it's a fallen world, you're going to have

00:36:37.820 to accept some blame.

00:36:38.680 It's going to have to be a little bit difficult.

00:36:40.100 We're going to discourage it with the law as every sane country has always done.

00:36:43.340 That would probably reduce the fatherlessness.

00:36:45.880 That would probably reduce these broken homes.

00:36:49.180 And if you had a political economy that'll, that allowed and even encouraged mothers to have

00:36:55.040 kids and stay home, that gave them that choice.

00:36:58.900 If they wanted that choice, that might help too.

00:37:01.160 Really simple stuff that some other countries have done.

00:37:04.680 I mentioned Hungary earlier.

00:37:06.900 Hungary is the only country in the West that has started to turn around its birth rate problem.

00:37:10.760 It still hasn't solved it, but it's started to turn it around.

00:37:12.640 You know how they did it?

00:37:13.420 Because they said if you have more than four kids, more than three kids, you don't have

00:37:17.220 to pay taxes.

00:37:17.960 And guess what?

00:37:18.340 People started having more kids.

00:37:19.460 Isn't that crazy?

00:37:20.540 Isn't that so crazy?

00:37:21.320 You could fix these things.

00:37:24.620 But to fix them, you have to have a political will to do that.

00:37:29.040 And our political leaders, it's not even just that they don't care.

00:37:32.680 They are actively encouraging the stuff that is leading to social collapse.

00:37:37.880 You know, yes or no is not just a show.

00:37:40.620 It's not just an excuse to make my guests squirm.

00:37:43.540 It is the Daily Wire's number one hit party game.

00:37:46.200 With 200 cards filled with titillating topics and the ability to play up to nine people

00:37:50.360 at once, you can put your knowledge of your friends and family to the test.

00:37:54.840 Much as I did when I sat down with my friend, Brett Cooper.

00:37:58.200 I admit, I do sympathize a little with Dylan Mulvaney because I too was once an impressionable

00:38:03.720 theater kid.

00:38:04.620 And who knows what could have happened to me if I was cast in Rent on Broadway in My Wayward

00:38:08.560 Youth.

00:38:09.040 I sympathize with Dylan Mulvaney because I was a theater kid.

00:38:11.040 Let's answer and I'll comment.

00:38:12.500 One, two, three.

00:38:13.760 One, two, three.

00:38:15.760 Go to dailywire.com slash shop to get your yes or no game today and then get the expansion

00:38:35.400 pack and then maybe we'll have another expansion pack.

00:38:37.680 My favorite comment yesterday is from UltriLegina11 who says, the more I hear about social media

00:38:44.560 and decisions by the liberal establishment, the more I feel conservatism is a resistance

00:38:48.180 movement rather than a political party.

00:38:50.460 Yes, do you know, Logo Daedalus is a kind of interesting, a little bit eccentric, but

00:38:55.120 interesting Twitter account.

00:38:56.780 Logo Daedalus made this point last night, which is that conservatives are the revolutionary

00:39:02.820 party in the United States because the liberals, having taken over all of the institutions, have

00:39:07.860 now become the conservatizing party.

00:39:09.980 Meaning, a good example would be that the liberals are the ones defending the NFL.

00:39:15.120 Conservatives now kind of hate the NFL and liberals are the ones defending it.

00:39:18.340 The liberals are the ones who are defending the status quo.

00:39:20.960 The liberals are the ones who are defending the entrenched power.

00:39:23.440 And the conservatives are the ones who are trying to upend all of that.

00:39:26.900 The liberals are the ones who are running Joe Biden, who's just this corpse who's been

00:39:30.380 in Washington since 1972.

00:39:32.380 And the conservatives are the ones running this wild, crazy populist guy.

00:39:37.580 So that's true.

00:39:38.620 It is a strange situation in the United States now that the conservatives are functioning more

00:39:44.900 as the revolutionary party and the liberals are functioning more as the conservative party.

00:39:50.520 I don't know.

00:39:50.960 Pretty weird, huh?

00:39:52.680 Now, turning back to Palestine liberation, really, really troubling story from the Associated

00:39:59.220 Press.

00:40:00.960 Associated Press has a headline.

00:40:02.320 Breaking Health Officials Say More Than 12,300 Palestinian Miners Have Been Killed in Israel's

00:40:09.080 War on Hamas in Gaza.

00:40:11.560 So, absolutely horrific headline.

00:40:14.260 And nobody knows how to react to it.

00:40:16.920 First of all, because it's the Associated Press, which is a radical leftist organization.

00:40:21.520 So, you know, the Associated Press sends out guidance to their reporters to, you know,

00:40:26.660 call men, women, and women, men.

00:40:27.840 And we just don't, they're just not really honest.

00:40:30.500 So, you don't know if you can believe the AP reporting.

00:40:33.520 Furthermore, they say health officials, they're referring to Hamas officials.

00:40:37.280 Those are Hamas numbers, 12,300 Palestinian minors.

00:40:41.360 Now, minors, by the way, that doesn't, that's a euphemism.

00:40:45.180 Minors refers to children.

00:40:46.360 So, it's even worse when you think about that.

00:40:47.900 Is the number really 12,300?

00:40:49.660 I don't know.

00:40:50.200 Maybe Hamas is lying about that.

00:40:52.180 But what's the number?

00:40:54.340 Say it's 10,000.

00:40:56.060 I don't know.

00:40:56.460 That's horrific.

00:40:57.520 Say it's 8,000.

00:40:58.440 That's still horrific.

00:40:59.920 Say it's 5,000.

00:41:00.580 I mean, really, just about any number you can give is really, really horrifying.

00:41:07.540 So, what do we think about it?

00:41:10.980 What's the, no one ever seems to come to any kind of conclusion on this conflict.

00:41:15.240 This might be the single most intractable conflict in the world.

00:41:20.020 And you get these just horrific headlines, especially with regard to children.

00:41:23.480 You can't imagine anything worse.

00:41:25.000 The reason that no one ever comes to conclusions about this is because no one ever wants to

00:41:30.820 acknowledge the reality of the interests of the respective belligerents.

00:41:35.460 Namely, that both sides want ethnic cleansing in the opposing territories.

00:41:41.260 Both sides want ethnic cleansing, and they both sort of rationally want ethnic cleansing.

00:41:47.720 The Israel view is that having the Palestinian Arabs in Gaza who are going to elect Hamas is an

00:41:54.560 unacceptable security risk.

00:41:55.920 And the pogrom of October 7th proved that.

00:41:58.440 And so, they just can't tolerate that anymore.

00:42:00.080 And so, they're probably not going to admit this publicly.

00:42:03.380 But the rational policy that the state of Israel is pursuing is ethnic cleansing in Gaza.

00:42:08.060 Now, the Palestinians are a little more forthright about their policy.

00:42:13.960 I mean, even the hunger-striking pro-Palestine activists at Harvard University who, you know,

00:42:19.980 skip their midday snack before stuffing their faces in the evening.

00:42:24.380 They say quite explicitly that their desired policy is ethnic cleansing in the state of Israel.

00:42:30.760 They say from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, which means we're going to erase the

00:42:34.760 modern Asian state of Israel.

00:42:35.960 They think it's illegitimate.

00:42:36.980 They think it was illegitimately founded.

00:42:38.300 And they want to get rid of all the Jews.

00:42:40.400 So, that's it.

00:42:41.080 Both sides, they're not only their current policy goal, but really the only policy goal that they

00:42:48.660 can logically arrive at, given their premises, is the ethnic cleansing of the other territory,

00:42:54.160 which is unacceptable from the perspective of the United States and the international community.

00:42:58.960 So, what are we going to do?

00:43:00.560 The most morally attractive outcome, which is going to be the least satisfying to anyone,

00:43:07.780 is just to maintain the status quo.

00:43:11.180 And that means that the Palestinian Arabs need to accept that they're not going to get their old

00:43:15.220 land back or the land that they very much desire from the river to the sea.

00:43:19.280 And the Israelis are going to have to accept an increased security risk on their western flank,

00:43:25.200 southwestern flank.

00:43:27.640 And that's not acceptable to anybody.

00:43:30.640 But what's the other solution?

00:43:32.780 Everyone saw this headline from the AP yesterday and reacted either by denying it and saying,

00:43:39.500 you can't believe Hamas's numbers, or by saying, this is just so obviously horrific.

00:43:44.680 You know, I've never seen a worse headline.

00:43:46.700 But no one came to any conclusion because they're hiding the ball in the conclusion because the

00:43:51.440 conclusions are totally unacceptable from each side.

00:43:53.740 So, then the only conclusion that I think one can reach, at least from the American perspective,

00:44:01.480 is wind down the war, contain the war, don't let it develop larger, and effectively maintain

00:44:07.140 the status quo.

00:44:08.460 No one wants to hear.

00:44:09.880 Some of us have been saying it from the beginning.

00:44:11.720 What's the alternative?

00:44:13.320 Speaking of death overseas, really troubling story out of the Netherlands.

00:44:17.740 The former Dutch prime minister, Dries van Acht, this is a day of mispronouncing names.

00:44:26.660 This is a day of very difficult to pronounce foreign names.

00:44:30.080 So, please forgive me.

00:44:31.400 The former Dutch prime minister, Dries van Acht, and his wife just killed themselves together.

00:44:39.700 Legally.

00:44:40.700 Legally.

00:44:41.120 Because the Netherlands has perhaps the most barbaric pro-suicide policy of any nation.

00:44:47.740 On earth.

00:44:49.820 Canada is quickly getting close.

00:44:52.280 Belgium is getting close.

00:44:53.500 But the Netherlands has been on this track for a while.

00:44:56.620 The Netherlands.

00:44:57.580 There's a famous story that came out of a woman, elderly woman, who had agreed to assisted

00:45:03.540 suicide on a sunny day.

00:45:05.380 And then when the time actually came, she said, no, I don't want to kill myself.

00:45:08.160 And her family and the doctors held her down and poisoned her until she died.

00:45:12.760 So, this is spreading.

00:45:14.440 So, the Dutch prime minister and his wife decided to do this.

00:45:17.740 And according to the Rights Forum, talk about an Orwellian term.

00:45:22.280 This is a pro-suicide group.

00:45:24.300 His health became more and more fragile.

00:45:25.960 And he wanted to focus his attention on his wife, children, and grandchildren.

00:45:29.720 But they decided to kill themselves together because they felt that they couldn't live without

00:45:34.980 each other.

00:45:35.580 So, hold on.

00:45:35.860 And he wanted to focus more attention on his wife, children, and grandchildren.

00:45:38.800 But then he realized he was just, he was not feeling that great.

00:45:42.140 So, he decided to kill himself and not focus any time on his wife, children, and grandchildren.

00:45:45.700 And his wife felt so sad about this that he led her to kill herself as well.

00:45:50.600 Does this remind you of anything that maybe you read about in school?

00:45:56.160 Because this reminds me of something that I read about in school.

00:45:59.340 Did you ever read about the old Indian practice of sati?

00:46:03.500 The practice of a widow throwing herself on the funeral pyre of her husband as he's burning.

00:46:09.580 And so, she would obviously be burned to death as well.

00:46:13.040 It's an old practice, those old Hindus in India.

00:46:16.460 And the British put an end to sati.

00:46:18.920 The British, when they colonized India and brought Christianity.

00:46:24.920 Christianity first arrived in India with St. Thomas, the apostle.

00:46:27.960 But they brought a little bit more widespread Christianity.

00:46:31.740 And they put an end to that particular practice.

00:46:34.440 Now that practice is coming back.

00:46:35.840 This is just modern day sati.

00:46:37.340 You know, suicide risk is increased over two and a half times in families with a history of completed suicide.

00:46:45.760 If you are related to someone who has killed himself, you are two and a half times as likely to kill yourself.

00:46:51.120 Because suicide is scandalous.

00:46:53.060 It's a stumbling block.

00:46:54.580 It can lead you astray.

00:46:56.420 That's what happened here.

00:46:57.140 This woman wouldn't have killed herself if her husband didn't kill himself.

00:46:59.720 But he did.

00:47:00.420 So, she's going to kill herself.

00:47:01.640 And now the kids are going to see that and say, well, I guess that's just how we go these days.

00:47:04.340 And maybe they're going to kill themselves.

00:47:05.500 They're much more likely to.

00:47:06.400 Maybe the grandkids will too.

00:47:08.600 This is modern day sati.

00:47:10.720 We are already seeing the social consequences of legalizing and encouraging suicide.

00:47:16.540 And the question that it's going to come down to is not, is the West going to be, you know, traditionally Christian and uphold all the moral prohibitions on all these sorts of things.

00:47:25.800 Like, you know, murdering babies and having weird occult orgies and, you know, ritual suicide.

00:47:33.320 Are we going to, like, are we going to continue those Christian prohibitions on those sorts of things?

00:47:38.620 Or are we going to be really rational and intellectual and scientific?

00:47:42.900 That's not the distinction.

00:47:44.980 All those things I just mentioned that are supposedly rational and scientific and modern, they're just old pagan things.

00:47:50.060 Infanticide, that's just an old pagan thing.

00:47:52.640 Weird occult orgies, that's just an old pagan thing.

00:47:56.220 That's what they used to do in the weird old ancient Greek temples and all the ancient temples to pagan demons.

00:48:03.160 Ritual suicide, sati, they're just pagan things.

00:48:06.860 So the question for us is, because everyone's got to serve somebody, is the West going to be Christian or are we going to be, are we going to go back to being pagan after having been Christian, which is a kind of apostasy, which is much, much worse than the kind of paganism that exists before you see the revealed truth of religion.

00:48:27.300 Much, much worse.

00:48:29.620 Because you've seen the truth and you've rejected it.

00:48:31.600 Rather than just following nature, you've seen something beyond nature.

00:48:38.400 And as a result of that, you've had the most flourishing civilization that has ever existed.

00:48:42.200 Nothing like it will ever exist again.

00:48:46.060 And then you go back.

00:48:47.740 Okay, well, I would prefer the society without infanticide and weird occult orgies and the ritual suicide of your wife.

00:48:58.960 I don't know.

00:48:59.480 That's just me.

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