The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1428 - Corrupt Trump Prosecutor's Hilarious Testimony Fail

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00:00:37.900 In 2020, while running for Fulton County DA, Fannie Willis made two promises. Here is why

00:00:44.060 she said she was running. Because they deserve a DA that won't have sex with his employees. 1.00

00:00:50.820 Because they deserve a DA that won't put money in their own pocket when it should go to benefit

00:00:57.080 children. Because we deserve better. Now, I'm not sure if you've caught up on this particular

00:01:03.200 news story, but it turns out that Fannie Willis, who is leading the prosecution against Donald Trump

00:01:08.580 in Georgia, she didn't keep her promises. As she made abundantly clear yesterday during the craziest

00:01:16.380 televised testimony I have seen in a very long time. As we learned yesterday during that testimony

00:01:23.680 that would have made Judge Judy blush, Fannie Willis did sleep with her employee. She did put 1.00

00:01:29.680 inappropriate money in her own pocket. And she may very well have gotten the whole Georgia case 0.68

00:01:35.000 against Trump thrown out of court. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

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00:02:49.380 Fulton County, Georgia. She's the one bringing the charges against Donald Trump in the RICO case

00:02:56.460 where the Democrats are trying to allege that Trump is some kind of gangster and they want

00:03:00.880 to interfere in his reelection. They want to throw him into an orange jumpsuit. Fannie Willis

00:03:04.660 testified yesterday in court because a lawyer for one of Trump's associates, who's also being

00:03:11.440 prosecuted. This didn't come from Trump himself, but one of his associates who's being prosecuted.

00:03:15.760 The lawyer for that person complained that the DA had an inappropriate relationship with a special

00:03:21.640 prosecutor and she said, this stinks up the whole case and the whole thing should be thrown out.

00:03:26.900 So that's why the DA, Fannie Willis, was on the stand. And from the moment this testimony began,

00:03:33.580 you knew they had this woman dead to rights.

00:03:37.500 little defensive, huh, darling? You seem, uh, you seem a little touchy about that.

00:04:07.480 So she opens up and the lawyer is making the point that, you know, there are two sides to,

00:04:14.600 to this particular case. And Fannie Willis gets very defensive. She goes, I'm not a hostile witness.

00:04:20.860 It's like, well, you know, you're screaming at us. So you kind of seem like you are. No,

00:04:23.880 I'm not a hostile witness. He says, no, no, I'm just trying to explain your interests are opposed

00:04:27.880 to, to this other person's interests. She goes, no, that other person, these people,

00:04:31.660 they're, they're opposed to democracy. That's the tell. The libs do this all the time.

00:04:38.980 If we ever question any of their corruption, they say that we're threats to democracy.

00:04:44.300 If we ever suggest that perhaps they shouldn't rig the elections and perhaps we should make sure that

00:04:50.200 it's citizens who are voting and perhaps we shouldn't let bad actors go around and collect a

00:04:55.940 ton of ballots and drop them off at insecure drop boxes. They say, no, no, no, that's a threat to

00:05:01.300 democracy. We say, no, we're the ones trying to protect democracy. Every time a fraudulent vote

00:05:05.180 is cast, that negates the vote of someone who actually has the right to vote. No, no, no,

00:05:09.200 it's a threat to democracy. Okay. Every time you protest, every time you lobby your government,

00:05:13.800 every time you express discontent at corruptions, we used to think was an expression of democracy.

00:05:19.120 No, no, it's a threat to democracy. Some Midwestern granny takes a selfie at the Capitol, 1.00

00:05:23.620 threat to democracy. Anytime the people elect a candidate that they like, you know, they elect

00:05:28.840 Viktor Orban, let's say in Hungary, the majority of people want to elect him. That's a threat to

00:05:34.300 democracy. The majority of Brits vote for the Brexit. That's a threat to democracy. The majority

00:05:39.260 of Italians vote for Georgia Maloney. That's a threat to democracy. It's always a threat to democracy, 0.99

00:05:44.360 even when that's what most people want. Doesn't make sense. So the woman opens up typical line 1.00

00:05:50.800 because she doesn't have any other arguments to use. She also doesn't seem to understand the words

00:05:55.940 that the lawyer is speaking to her. She doesn't, she doesn't understand what adversary and hostility

00:06:02.100 are referring to here. So already, you know, man, we're in for a good testimony and we got,

00:06:08.140 we got quite a show. The question is, one, did Fannie Willis have an improper relationship 0.99

00:06:15.540 with the man she hired to be the special prosecutor here? The answer now we know for a fact

00:06:20.540 is yes. She's admitted that. Then the question is, did they have a relationship before she hired him

00:06:26.960 in this case? She maintains no. So it wasn't an inappropriate favor to her lover who then paid

00:06:34.840 her back with all sorts of lavish trips and gifts. She says no. She hired him for the job and then they

00:06:42.660 began their romantic relationship, which would be bad enough. But it seems that that's a lie too,

00:06:47.000 as her friend testified in court. Do you understand it, that their relationship began in 2019 and

00:06:54.880 continued until the last time you spoke with her? Yes. Yes. Okay. So if the relationship began in 2019,

00:07:03.940 then obviously it predates the prosecution. President Trump was still president in 2019.

00:07:08.740 So that, and that was the least colorful part of the testimony because it wasn't Fannie Willis who

00:07:15.320 put on a crazy show. To underscore just how significant that admission is, even the libs on

00:07:23.500 MSNBC admitted that is explosive. It's so legalistic centric and yet so important and fascinating.

00:07:35.080 Right. Don't let the legalese fool you. This is epic. This is monumental. If things are going in the

00:07:40.780 direction we think Fannie Willis lied to the court, it's game over for her. She will be disqualified 1.00

00:07:47.920 if they had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court. It's a huge deal. I can't

00:07:54.800 overstate it. So she lied to the court. This is a woman who's not only a lawyer, she's been a judge,

00:08:02.660 she's district attorney now. She lied to the court. Not only did she possibly commit a crime, 0.99

00:08:10.420 certainly an impropriety as DA with this relationship, and she almost certainly committed

00:08:15.360 a crime if she was taking kickbacks from the money that she set aside for her lover. But then she would 0.97

00:08:20.000 have perjured herself before the court by lying about when this relationship began. But that's not

00:08:27.240 even the end of the crimes that she admits. Because the question becomes, we know that the lover bought

00:08:36.480 her all these sorts of nice vacations and all these nice dinners and all these trips. So how is Fannie

00:08:42.360 Willis going to pretend that that's not a kickback? And she's going to say, well, it wasn't a kickback

00:08:46.700 because I paid for my share of it. Even then a little bit dubious. But if she paid for her share,

00:08:54.340 okay, fair enough, there should be a record of that, right? For goodness sakes, I have a record

00:08:58.560 of basically every cup of coffee I buy when I'm going through an airport. Everything is electronic

00:09:04.180 these days. So, okay, Fannie, if you actually paid for half of these expenses, all these lavish trips

00:09:11.060 with your boyfriend that you hired to prosecute Trump, then where are the receipts? And her boyfriend,

00:09:16.300 Nathan Wade, gives an unsatisfying answer.

00:09:21.520 You said in the affidavit that you roughly shared travel, though, correct?

00:09:25.620 Yes, ma'am.

00:09:26.080 Okay. So this roughly sharing travel, you're saying she reimbursed you?

00:09:29.820 She did.

00:09:30.740 And where did you deposit the money she reimbursed you?

00:09:34.160 Oh, it was cash. She didn't give me any checks.

00:09:36.940 So she paid you cash for her share of all these vacations?

00:09:39.720 Mr. Schaefer, you'll step out if you do that again.

00:09:41.720 Yes, ma'am.

00:09:42.140 Okay. And so all of the vacations that she took, she paid you cash for?

00:09:47.900 Yes, ma'am.

00:09:50.680 If you, first of all, if you believe that she actually paid him back, I got a bridge in Brooklyn

00:09:55.340 to sell you. But second of all, if you believe, I don't know what's worse. Is it worse that he's

00:10:01.960 pretty clearly lying about this? That she didn't, in fact, hand him just thousands and thousands of

00:10:08.780 dollars in cash? In what? Envelopes? Like, this is what they got Senator Bob Menendez on.

00:10:14.540 It looks like the worst kind of gangster bribes you can imagine. Who's carrying around that kind

00:10:19.720 of cash? I don't know if it's worse that she did that and is acting like a gangster, or if it's worse 1.00

00:10:26.100 that he's lying, which seems much more likely.

00:10:29.160 Oh, what are you talking about? She didn't. She didn't pay me in Venmo. She didn't pay me on a

00:10:33.260 credit card. She didn't pay me in a check. She didn't. No, just fat wads of cash that we apparently

00:10:38.640 all have lying around. Thousands, maybe tens of thousands of dollars in cash. Give me a break.

00:10:43.100 So they ask Fannie Willis about this. She's on the stand. They say, hold on, hold on. So

00:10:48.080 you're dating this guy. You probably were dating him before you hired him to prosecute Trump.

00:10:55.680 But even if you weren't somehow, this guy then is making a ton of money. He's completely unqualified

00:11:01.720 for the job. You're paying him way more money than he deserves and that other lawyers in his

00:11:06.160 shoes would get. And then he starts spending that money on you. But then he insists that you paid him

00:11:13.380 back for it. But there's no record of any of this somehow because you were paying him in cash.

00:11:20.340 Okay, Fannie, where'd you get the cash? And you could not, if you were writing a dark Hollywood

00:11:28.520 comedy about political corruption, you could not have scripted a better answer than this.

00:11:34.420 But I always have cash at the house. That has been, I don't know, all my life. If you're a woman and 0.52

00:11:42.100 you go on a date with a man, you better have $200 in your pocket. So if that man acts up,

00:11:46.500 you can go where you want to go. So I keep cash in my house. And I don't keep cash as good in my

00:11:51.880 purse like I used to because I don't go on many dates. But when you go on a date, you should have

00:11:57.020 cash in your pocket. So my question was, where did that cash originally come from if it didn't

00:12:01.960 come out of the bank? Cash is fungible. I had cash for years in my house. So for me to tell you

00:12:08.980 the source of when it comes from, when you go to Publix and you buy something, you get $50,

00:12:13.060 you throw it in there. It's been my whole life. When I took out a large amount of money on my first

00:12:18.520 campaign, I kept some of the cash of that. Like, hold on, hold on, wait, pause, rewind the tape.

00:12:25.500 She, so it just, it just shows you what happens when you start telling lies. You have to start telling

00:12:31.760 crazier and crazier lies. Or what's worse in this case, perhaps, is that you start, 0.95

00:12:37.060 you start telling lies to cover up some misdeed. But then in the course of telling those lies,

00:12:43.280 you accidentally reveal another misdeed. This woman just casually admitted to embezzling money 1.00

00:12:48.100 from her political campaign for personal use. Casually, she wasn't even aware of it.

00:12:53.080 It was, huh? Where do I, what? Wait, you're asking me why I just have thousands and thousands

00:12:57.000 of dollars of cash lying around? Oh, I don't know, man. You know, cash is fungible.

00:13:02.140 It's true. I got money is fungible. That's true. It's, she's obviously saying this so that she

00:13:07.780 doesn't have to give a source for the cash. You know, if I take $50 out of the bank and then I

00:13:14.800 get paid back $50 from a friend and I put it in my drawer, one can't neatly say, well, this is the

00:13:20.140 50 from my friend and that's just all money. It goes together. But then when she's pressed on the

00:13:26.320 question, because the lawyer doesn't want her to evade it, she actually gives the worst answer 1.00

00:13:30.720 possible, which is, huh? Oh yeah, I embezzled the cash from my campaign. I am so, I am so thoroughly

00:13:38.360 corrupt that I, my excuse for my other corruption is to casually admit to a very significant crime.

00:13:47.540 The funniest part of all of this, zoom out a little bit here so you don't miss the forest

00:13:53.420 for the trees. The case that Fannie Willis is bringing against Donald Trump is a RICO case.

00:13:58.400 It's the case you bring against the mob. It's for racketeering. It's for all the stuff. What does

00:14:03.660 the mob do? The mob goes around, mob deals in cash. Mob doesn't swipe credit cards, okay? You go to the

00:14:10.140 Bronx. Most of the mob has been wiped out in New York because of Rudy Giuliani. But you go, sometimes

00:14:15.080 you see a few wise guys. They're dealing with cash, okay? And they're going around and there's

00:14:19.380 influence operations and they all got weird romantic relationships and they're all just

00:14:24.520 trying to impose their political will, usually absent reason, certainly absent the law on their

00:14:30.740 opponents. And well, what do you know? Not only did Trump not do any of that, but this woman did.

00:14:38.360 And so did her lover and so did this whole crooked establishment. And it's so a part of the fabric

00:14:45.580 of their political operation that she would just casually admit to significant crimes.

00:14:51.920 So she's got all the cash. She keeps it in her house because she embezzles from her campaign. 1.00

00:14:58.040 And then what's she do with it?

00:14:59.560 And then he tells me how much it is and I give him the money back. I don't, just like you're asking

00:15:05.360 me about the money with Robin. I don't do my friends like that. So if you tell me it's a G,

00:15:09.740 then you're going to get a thousand dollars. Whatever it is, I didn't ever make him produce

00:15:13.560 receipts to me. Whatever he told me it was, I gave him the money back.

00:15:18.240 This is the district attorney who's trying to imprison the leader of the Republican Party,

00:15:23.640 the former president Donald Trump. This is the great legal mind that is going to upset

00:15:30.040 centuries of American legal precedent and tradition to transform our country into a banana republic,

00:15:36.780 a tin pot dictatorship on this novel legal theory that you should throw the former president and the

00:15:41.360 current leader of the opposition into prison. And I assume here she's quoting from Blackstone's

00:15:46.000 commentaries. I think it's a book one chapter 15 in which Blackstone writes, I don't do my friends

00:15:55.260 like that. You tell me it's a G, you're going to get a thousand dollars. That's it. That is about the

00:16:03.100 height of legal theory that will take us to the Trump prosecution. Obviously, Fannie Willis should 1.00

00:16:11.940 be dismissed from this case. Obviously, her boyfriend should be dismissed from this case.

00:16:16.300 Obviously, at least Fannie Willis, maybe her boyfriend as well, should be prosecuted for the

00:16:20.960 crimes that Fannie Willis accidentally admitted to on the witness stand yesterday. But most importantly of

00:16:27.000 all, this case against Donald Trump needs to be thrown out of court. This is a complete farce.

00:16:35.020 This is a major embarrassment, not only for this woman, not only for the whole Fulton County DA's

00:16:41.520 office, not only for the Democratic Party. This is a major, major embarrassment for the United States.

00:16:48.060 If they have any self-respect whatsoever, they will throw this out immediately.

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00:19:04.300 needs to be even higher. Is this not the perfect symbol of modern liberal culture?

00:19:14.380 They want equity. And equity, as we've discussed many times, is a utopian goal that is actually opposed

00:19:22.120 to human nature. It can never happen. And that's why the equity initiatives always lead to so much

00:19:27.120 suffering and political disorder. But let's say it were possible. Let's just engage in that little

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00:19:40.140 The one way to achieve equity would be to bring everybody up. You encourage people, you help them

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00:19:54.080 everybody down. It would be to diagnose people with more mental handicaps. It would be to reduce the 0.60

00:20:02.840 degree to which people can achieve. It would be to punish people who do better. Now I'm moving beyond

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00:20:15.240 way DEI initiatives work in universities and in professional settings. But this is perfect.

00:20:24.640 The way that we're going to help black people is we're going to say that more of them are mentally 1.00

00:20:28.420 disabled. Yes, that's the way that we're going to do it. You can raise people up. You can bring people 0.99

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00:22:31.700 Mike V8085, who says, when Michael does his Putin impression, he sounds like Count Dracula.

00:22:37.420 Da, it is because I do not do very many impressions. Da, Tucker, don't you understand, Tucker, that I

00:22:42.840 want to suck your blood? So that's my Putin, man. That's it. I apologize to the president of the 1.00

00:22:50.980 Russian Federation. I do not want any polonium to end up in my leftist-tears tumbler. All due respect, 0.93

00:22:55.820 great respect to you, Mr. Putin. Okay, speaking of military engagements over on the other side of

00:23:03.380 the world, really troubling story coming out of Armenia. Armenia is warning that Azerbaijan is 0.71

00:23:11.340 planning a full-scale war. This would be an enlargement of a conflict that has been simmering

00:23:16.360 for some years now called the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. This is between Azerbaijan, a Muslim nation,

00:23:22.900 and Armenia, which is the oldest Christian nation in the world. Armenia has been officially a

00:23:30.400 Christian nation since the year 301. That is a dozen years before Emperor Constantine's Edict of

00:23:38.520 Milan, tolerating Christianity throughout the Roman Empire. Christianity first arrived in Armenia

00:23:44.920 in the year of our Lord, 40. Not 540, not 240, not 140. Forty. Seven years after the resurrection.

00:23:55.560 Armenia has been Christian for a very long time, and Armenians have been the victims of persecution

00:24:01.180 for a very long time. Famously, infamously, Armenians are the victims of the Armenian genocide,

00:24:08.160 which took place during World War I, when a million Armenians were slaughtered by the Muslim Turks.

00:24:14.060 And Azerbaijan is another version of a Muslim Turkic state. And Azerbaijan now not only wants to take 0.89

00:24:24.840 this historical land from Armenia, the Nagorno-Karabakh land, but also now launch a full-scale war on 0.61

00:24:30.740 Armenia. And you're not hearing very much, if anything, about this because of all sorts of weird

00:24:36.540 alliances. Because Putin in Russia has been supportive of Armenia and Iran, which is kind of weird. A Muslim 1.00

00:24:46.280 nation, Iran is supportive of Armenia as well. But Turkey, which is an American ally, is supportive

00:24:52.260 of Azerbaijan. And Israel, an American ally, is supportive of Azerbaijan. But isn't that kind of

00:24:57.320 weird? Why is Israel supporting the Muslim nation and Iran supporting the Christian nation? Well, 0.94

00:25:02.800 foreign policy gets a little complicated sometimes, and there's questions of different resources there,

00:25:07.520 and blah, blah, blah. I really don't care. You know what I care about? The oldest Christian nation

00:25:12.500 in the world. A people who has been the victim of genocide within about a century, the last century.

00:25:20.280 A people that could be wiped out by an aggressive Muslim nation, Azerbaijan. I think that if we're 1.00

00:25:27.400 involving ourselves as the global hegemon in all sorts of wars that don't seem to have a huge direct

00:25:33.500 relation to American interests, we do it all the time and we're doing it right now, I think it would

00:25:38.540 be good if the model of Christian charity, to use the words of John Winthrop in our nation's earliest

00:25:44.600 days, if the model of Christian charity might extend a hand to the oldest Christian nation in the world

00:25:50.320 and prevent these people from becoming the victims of genocide again, and prevent the oldest

00:25:56.300 Christian nation on earth from being wiped off the map. I think that would be a good thing. 0.91

00:26:00.600 Some might say, well, we don't want to be involved in any foreign conflicts. That, by the way, has

00:26:05.340 never been my position, as I've made clear. I think my political philosophy boils down to I think we

00:26:09.440 ought to do good and avoid evil. Call me crazy. I'm very old school when it comes to my political

00:26:13.880 philosophy. Not very modern, but I still think that's probably the most defensible political

00:26:19.000 philosophy. Well, here, if you are going to be involved, and we are involved with virtually every

00:26:23.340 nation on earth, this might be a good place to extend that model of Christian charity.

00:26:30.520 Don't say you weren't warned. I think the media are going to block out this conflict.

00:26:34.560 Don't allow it to go by unnoticed. This is a grave injustice that has already been taking place for a

00:26:41.700 while, and a far graver injustice might take place. And if we're going to help out in any of these

00:26:46.300 apparently far-flung foreign conflicts, this might be a good one to do it. Now, speaking of many 0.99

00:26:51.520 generations, a man who is my age has just discovered that he's the father of 97 kids.

00:27:02.480 He's doing better than me. And I don't know if it's better, though, exactly, because I don't think

00:27:06.880 he's married. I don't. Something tells me these kids are not all from the same mother. And the thing

00:27:10.760 that tells me is this story about him. The kid, the kid, the man, 33, 34-year-old man,

00:27:17.120 is a sperm donor. He donated sperm, what a euphemism that is, in college. He was a student

00:27:25.940 at Georgia State in 2011. He's now discovered that he has 97 children. Pretty crazy thing to

00:27:35.820 discover. I remember, I was in college at the same time this kid was. And we were all sort of

00:27:40.360 sitting, joking around one day. And we were trying to figure out how much money we could make by

00:27:45.320 donating sperm. And I did the math. Over the course of college, I could have banked $400,000

00:27:51.660 if you keep up at the pretty steady pace of donation, so to speak. And I thought, well,

00:27:59.140 $400,000, that's a lot of money. But no, probably, I don't know, probably not a great idea. I was never

00:28:04.260 really seriously tempted by this financial incentive. But a lot of people have been.

00:28:10.920 I see easily, especially some dumb college kid could eat, oh, yeah, free money. And I go do this 0.98

00:28:16.200 thing that probably a lot of college kids are just doing already for free. Okay, yeah, why not? Well,

00:28:21.180 then you discover you have 97 kids. Don't you think you might feel some responsibility for those kids?

00:28:28.160 You got someone out there who looks like you, who is born without a father. Maybe they're born to an 0.98

00:28:36.320 adoptive father. Maybe it's a husband and a wife, and the husband's swimmers don't work. And so they 0.86

00:28:40.700 use donor sperm. And then maybe they tell the kid, maybe they don't. That's going to give the kids some

00:28:44.980 problems later on. Maybe, though, as is in a lot of these cases, maybe that child is just born to a

00:28:50.620 single mother because the single mother doesn't like men, can't find a husband. So she's just going to go 1.00

00:28:54.900 purchase a father for her kid. And then that kid is going to grow up without a father. That's really,

00:28:58.900 maybe the kid is going to be born to a couple of lesbians because the lesbians, they're in some 1.00

00:29:04.420 kind of union together and they want to have a kid, but they don't want to do it the right way. And so

00:29:08.020 the kid's going to be born and he's really not going to have a father. He's going to have two

00:29:11.100 mothers and no father. And isn't that wrong? Isn't that right? Beyond that, there's another story 0.54

00:29:17.920 just came out of CNN. A woman named Victoria Hill recently learned not only that the man she thought

00:29:24.400 was her father is not her father because the father had a problem with the swimmers. So

00:29:29.000 they went to a fertility treatment specialist. They received donor sperm. They never told the

00:29:33.300 daughter. Turned out the donor sperm came from the fertility doctor himself because he was a pervert 0.98

00:29:37.380 because this is a perverse industry where you just buy and sell people like they're commodities. 0.82

00:29:42.360 And you want to hear the craziest part of it. She then found out that there were a lot of other

00:29:47.460 people in her town that were her half siblings because they also had donor sperm from this fertility doc.

00:29:53.380 And she found out that her high school boyfriend was really her half brother.

00:29:56.620 So this woman now is dealing with the trauma of having slept in high school with her half brother,

00:30:00.960 a man that she said she could have married, though luckily she didn't in the long run. All of this to

00:30:06.200 say, when I have brought up some of the negative and unintended consequences of things like IVF and

00:30:15.300 surrogacy, this is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. And by the way, this isn't even the most

00:30:19.500 extreme terrible version of it. The unintended consequences of this are awful, but it all derives

00:30:27.560 from the same moral error. And the moral error that affects all of the IVF and surrogacy and

00:30:33.860 procreation industry broadly is the error of treating human beings as though they are commodities to be

00:30:41.040 purchased on a free market, of treating children and mothers and fathers as though they're just

00:30:47.020 interchangeable widgets as though they're just objects rather than proper subjects with moral

00:30:54.240 rights and moral obligations. This is what we're talking about. Not good stuff, man. We want you to

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00:32:26.680 Finally, finally, I've arrived at my favorite time of the week when I get to hear from you in

00:32:31.320 the mailbag. Our mailbag is sponsored by Pure Talk. Go to puretalk.com slash Knowles today. Take

00:32:36.480 it away. Hi, Michael. This is Molly. My question is if you think kids should be allowed to have

00:32:43.440 smartphones. I have four young kids, and everywhere I look, it seems like kids are younger and younger

00:32:49.400 holding cell phones. I personally didn't have one until high school, and even then, I could only use

00:32:55.920 it to make phone calls after 9 p.m. when the free minutes started. So I'm just wondering how to

00:33:01.520 navigate this as my kids get older, and what age do you think would be appropriate, and if there's

00:33:07.060 any way to make it safer. Thanks.

00:33:09.320 No. Your kids should not have smartphones. Next question. No, they shouldn't. They shouldn't have

00:33:16.160 smartphones at all. If you give a smartphone to a boy, he's going to look at porn. Even if he's the

00:33:22.540 nicest little boy in the world, it's going to happen. If you give the smartphone to a girl, 1.00

00:33:28.680 she's going to look at all the social media apps, and she's going to develop all sorts of body issues 0.99

00:33:33.420 and social issues, and both of them are going to get very depressed. And both the boys and the girls

00:33:38.400 are going to live their lives more and more in virtual reality, which is going to cause all sorts

00:33:45.240 of problems, and it's going to disassociate them from the real communities in which they live.

00:33:50.560 And they're also all going to talk to little boys and girls, and they're all going to get up to no good.

00:33:55.180 Don't do it. If you love your kids, do not give them smartphones. You can give them brick phones,

00:34:01.260 the ones that are kind of like e-readers, where you can give them flip phones. You can give them

00:34:06.060 old Nokia-style phones. I'm not saying you don't want a way to contact your kids when they're out

00:34:10.120 and when they're at ballet class or whatever they do. Do not give your children smartphones. At what

00:34:17.840 age should you give them smartphones? Some parents will say, you can't have a smartphone until you can

00:34:23.120 pay for it yourself. No, the problem with the smartphone is not that the phone is $500. The

00:34:27.840 problem with the smartphone is that it's a portal to hell. So instead of that, you just pick an age

00:34:33.020 at which you think they would be mature enough for it. Maybe that's 17. Maybe that's 18. Maybe

00:34:38.740 that, I don't know when that is, okay, but it sure ain't 12. Next question.

00:34:44.080 Hey, Michael. I've been going out with this girl from church for a while now, and we just talked

00:34:48.920 about the nature of the relationship, whether or not we want to make it official. And we both would

00:34:54.800 like to, but she tells me that there's a possibility she might be moving back to her 0.94

00:35:00.080 home state within a year. And I definitely have to stay where we currently live, which is many hours

00:35:07.320 apart. She doesn't know if that's going to be the case, but she says at the moment, it looks like it

00:35:12.200 might be moving in that direction. But she's not sure. So what would you do in this situation? Would

00:35:17.320 you try to stick it out as long as you can? Or would you move on in hopes of not wasting anyone's

00:35:22.800 time? Appreciate the response. Thanks. It depends how old you are. I don't know. Maybe I just missed

00:35:28.660 that in the question. I don't know. Is this the sort of thing where, you know, you're in high school

00:35:31.760 and her parents are moving, so you'll be a little while away for a year, but then maybe you'll go

00:35:36.280 off to college and you could be closer to each other. I don't know. Or is it that you're just

00:35:40.560 both in your twenties and she wants to go to another city and you want to stay in your city or vice 0.84

00:35:44.440 versa. And so you're going to be split apart. If it's the former, I don't know, maybe you can kind

00:35:48.420 of stick it out. If you're just both adults making a decision to say, we're going to go into

00:35:52.500 different places, then I don't know. I guess probably you've made your decision there.

00:35:56.480 But if it's young love and you say, we're going to be away for a little while, we're going to go to

00:35:59.180 different colleges or whatever, then I think you might be able to stick it out. I say this as someone

00:36:04.340 who is very, very happy. I thank my lucky stars every day that I married my high school sweetheart.

00:36:10.120 But, you know, we lived in different places. We went to different colleges. And so you could stick

00:36:14.480 it out there. I wouldn't just, if you really love each other and you really could see yourselves

00:36:18.820 getting married, then I don't, I wouldn't just break up because, you know, you'll have to spend

00:36:23.860 a few weeks apart or something, or even a few months apart. But if you, if there's no world in which

00:36:30.420 you end up back together, if there's nothing motivating you to be back in the same place to be

00:36:35.240 together, then, and I guess you've, you've probably already got your answer. You just don't want to admit

00:36:40.900 it. Next question. Hi, Michael, this is Catherine. Lately, I've been reading a bunch of posts by one

00:36:47.480 of your favorite Twitter accounts, Edmund Smirk, who has been talking about the freak right, which

00:36:53.620 has a bunch of conspiracy theories about Taylor Swift, like that her rise to fame has been a psyop and all

00:37:01.360 these theories. And then the anecdote to that, Edmund says, is the girl dead right. And the girl dead

00:37:08.820 right is still obviously conservative, but embraces what he calls Swiftian normality and

00:37:17.000 embraces the idea that Taylor Swift is at least temperamentally conservative. And I was wondering

00:37:24.200 just what are your thoughts about the girl dead right and the freak right?

00:37:29.780 Edmund Smirk, my favorite pseudonymous Twitter account, and I, we must be brothers from another

00:37:35.520 mother. Uh, you know, we think very much on the safe wavelength. This phrase temperamentally

00:37:40.200 conservative is some, as a phrase I've used for 20 years. I remember I said it about my wife,

00:37:46.580 Elisa, who grew up in even a more liberal environment than I did. And I said, well, maybe

00:37:51.860 sweet little Elisa's politics, such as they are, maybe they're more left wing for now or something, 0.98

00:37:56.700 but temperamentally she's actually more conservative than I am. I'm more prone to a radical,

00:38:04.140 I don't know, behaviors or plans or schemes. Whereas Elisa's more temperamentally conservative

00:38:10.000 and normal. And that, that can be a really great thing. Politically, we ought to harness that.

00:38:15.140 So yes, uh, Smirk has just suggested a related term to Swiftian normality. You know, Taylor Swift

00:38:21.600 just being a kind of pretty girl who normal people like, and she, she's not like dancing around doing 0.98

00:38:26.260 demon, uh, gesticulations and she's not, you know, uh, engaging in pornography in the streets and 1.00

00:38:32.200 she's just kind of normal. Uh, the related term is the girl, dad, right? It's just, you know,

00:38:37.540 men who just behave normally and they really care about their daughters and they like women and

00:38:45.280 women like them. And they're not, they're not unlike so many right wingers now in public life, 1.00

00:38:51.060 probably not in regular life, but in public life, a lot of right wingers are just saying and doing

00:38:54.880 things that are really bizarre and off-putting, especially to women. Uh, I, my read of the 1.00

00:39:01.420 girl, dad, right is that the girl, dad, right, uh, channeling Swiftian normality is, uh, not just

00:39:08.280 woman repellent and is not going to totally alienate voters and, and citizens that we need to get on our 1.00

00:39:15.880 side. And I think that's a really great thing. Now I am not, to my knowledge, I am not a girl dad.

00:39:20.160 Now, you know, we've got two boys already, then one on the way, we don't know, we don't know the sex

00:39:25.060 of the third Knowles. Uh, so I don't, I'm, I'm in no way presently to my knowledge, a girl dad, but

00:39:33.520 the girl dad, right, is a very important constituency for any conservative coalition. Next question.

00:39:38.880 You come to Elmo, my girl, asking for a favor. Elmo can't remember the last time you did Elmo a favor.

00:40:01.220 Even though Elmo has entertained you and your children, Elmo never asked for anything.

00:40:08.880 So, it disturbs Elmo. To hear you, Mr. Knowles, mistake my clear Sicilian accent for that of a Latino.

00:40:22.060 Even though you, you yourself are Sicilian, just like Emma. 0.99

00:40:28.720 But let's be franky, you never wanted to talk like Emma. Now you're afraid to be in Elmo's debt.

00:40:37.440 I'll see you right on Sesame Street, Mr. Knowles. Until then, bye.

00:40:47.180 I never knew that Elmo was Sicilian.

00:40:56.780 You learn something new every day, don't you?

00:40:59.320 Question from Dorian.

00:41:01.920 Good evening, Mr. Knowles. It's actually morning, Dorian, but maybe you wrote this in the evening.

00:41:05.860 On the subject of intelligent life on other worlds, the probability of intelligent life

00:41:09.840 happening on other worlds has been calculated under a mathematical equation known as the Drake

00:41:13.660 equation. Here we go. The result out of the 400 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy, many of them

00:41:19.060 with their own planets, the number of planets with the potential for intelligent life is roughly

00:41:23.060 12,500. What say you, sir?

00:41:26.180 Yeah, the Drake equation is totally fake. It's a joke. I don't mean to really criticize, you know,

00:41:31.500 Mr. Drake all that much. But the problem with the Drake equation is it is totally arbitrary.

00:41:38.440 It's just a guess. And the reason that we know that for certain is it just assumes certain facts

00:41:47.680 about the way life develops. When in fact, we know absolutely nothing about the way that life

00:41:53.780 begins. So what the Drake equation, for instance, would say is, okay, you know, what are the number

00:42:00.420 of planets that are a certain distance from a star that are of the proper size that have the proper

00:42:04.640 elements that we know are necessary for life? Okay, yes, there are certain elements that we think

00:42:11.120 today are necessary for life. But we don't know what is sufficient for life. We don't know

00:42:20.820 how you go from inorganic to organic. We don't know how you go from inanimate to animate. We don't

00:42:30.100 know scientifically anything about how life begins. Now, I do know a little bit how life

00:42:36.200 begins. I feel confident. I am fairly confident that the explanation that life begins when God

00:42:42.160 gathers up dust and breathes into the dust and forms man out of clay, I think that is by far the best 1.00

00:42:50.300 explanation that we have come up with yet as to how life begins. There have been other scientific

00:42:56.540 attempts to try to figure out the origins of life, but none of them have been persuasive at all.

00:43:02.560 So in order to establish the probability that life would exist anywhere else in the universe,

00:43:07.080 you would first have to know how life begins. And we just don't know that. And the Drake equation

00:43:11.420 doesn't know that either. They just make a bunch of assumptions. They basically just ignore that

00:43:14.480 question. So the numbers that it spits out are completely meaningless. Next question.

00:43:19.760 Hey, Michael, if you read this, I'm in dire need of guidance from the only person who could

00:43:24.620 possibly have genuine advice. Whoa, man, that's a heavy burden. I've been dating this girl for three

00:43:28.940 years and saying she's the love of my life would be an understatement. I was planning on proposing to

00:43:32.980 her this year. Unfortunately, last year, my parents decided to move a hundred or so miles away and I

00:43:38.240 had to go with them. Oh, wow, this is similar to that earlier voicemail back question. Due to the

00:43:42.620 distance and some underlying personal issues on my part, we were apart and have since separated. As you

00:43:46.960 can imagine, it's not a terribly joyful situation. I'm planning to move back very soon and have been

00:43:52.300 working to put an end to the issues I was causing and want to start up our relationship again.

00:43:57.260 You've spoken many times about how you and your wife broke up for a year, more than a year during

00:44:01.220 college, but got back together. How did you navigate that? I feel both hopelessly lost and positively

00:44:06.860 hopeful it will all work out between the two of us. I don't know how to get into a situation in which

00:44:11.640 we can start to work on our relationship again. The last thing I want is to try and have her wanting

00:44:16.340 nothing to do with me. Whenever I feel like my situation is at a loss, I tell myself I cannot lose

00:44:21.640 as motivation, but I don't know what I would do if I actually do lose. And it worries me if you end up

00:44:26.600 reading this and feel like replying in any sort of way, I would be forever grateful. Sure, sure.

00:44:31.020 A very painful situation. You certainly have my empathy. It depends a little bit on time and age.

00:44:39.680 So I don't know if you're a freshman in high school. It sounds like you're older than that,

00:44:43.620 but if you're a freshman in high school, you say, this is the love of my life. We're going to get

00:44:45.700 married, but our parents are apart. And then you go through three years of high school and then

00:44:49.720 wherever you go to college. And that might be tough. That might be a little tricky. If it's that

00:44:54.000 you're going to be apart for a year and then maybe you end up in similar places for college or at the

00:44:59.060 same college or maybe, I don't know, it's very difficult. You don't necessarily want to pick a

00:45:03.140 college just because of a girl that you dated a little bit in high school. Maybe you could do that.

00:45:09.940 It depends on what those underlying issues are as to why you broke up. Is it just kind of ordinary

00:45:15.780 jealousy or is it just because, you know, out of sight, out of mind because we're incarnate creatures.

00:45:19.980 We like to see each other. Do you have an ability to see, even though you're a hundred miles apart,

00:45:24.160 is there a way for you to, I don't know, meet in the middle or something? Maybe not when you're

00:45:27.300 17, 18 years old. You say that, you know, you'll say you cannot lose, but you might.

00:45:35.280 You might. I mean, you are broken up and you got to figure out from her perspective why you broke up,

00:45:40.240 why she broke up with you. And if it's the sort of thing that can be remedied with some phone calls

00:45:44.680 and a visit now and again within the next year or two, that's fine. If it's because she's just

00:45:50.200 moved on with her life and she really, she doesn't have affection for you anymore, then you might lose,

00:45:58.340 you know. Now, one way that you might get her back is that you might just move on yourself and start

00:46:04.160 dating other people. And maybe that doesn't work out. And maybe that gets her a little bit jealous.

00:46:07.360 And, you know, people have played that game more than once in the history of romance.

00:46:12.000 When my beloved wife and I were split, we were still kind of chatting, you know. It was still,

00:46:19.840 there were these, are we really split or are we going to, and every time it would kind of come

00:46:24.400 to that, you know, are we really just going to, one or the other of us would say, well, no,

00:46:28.660 hold on, let's just, maybe we just go get a cup of coffee or something like that. So, you know,

00:46:32.960 it's, I wish I could give you some firm, easy advice on do these three things and you get your

00:46:37.180 girlfriend back. But that's not how it works. It's very subtle and nuanced and it's, it's

00:46:44.540 relational. You know, it's not, it can't be distilled down into some little three-step

00:46:49.220 program. But if you want the girl, make it clear you want the girl. And then if she doesn't want

00:46:53.940 you, don't be a creep. Act like a man, women like men. Maybe, you know, you go on, you live your life, 0.97

00:46:59.100 you do something else, and then she wants you all the more. The rest of the show continues now.

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The Michael Knowles Show - February 16, 2024

Ep. 1428 - Corrupt Trump Prosecutor's Hilarious Testimony Fail

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