The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 144 - Weeping For Grandpas, Murdering Babies

00:00:00.000 Ninety-three-year-old former President George Bush has received an outpouring of prayers,

00:00:05.320 affection, and support as he recovers in a Houston hospital from a blood infection.

00:00:09.920 Meanwhile, the callous bureaucrats of Britain's socialist health care regime

00:00:13.480 are doing everything in their power to kill a two-year-old baby,

00:00:16.820 even stationing a police guard by his crib to ensure that nobody gives baby Alfie any oxygen.

00:00:23.660 We will analyze the modern West's bizarre take on life, death, and expertise.

00:00:28.460 Then, is there a terrorism double standard when it comes to reporting on attacks 0.98

00:00:34.020 by Muslim radicals versus attacks by lunatic non-Muslims? We'll analyze that. 0.99

00:00:39.860 Finally, on this day in history, the Armenian Genocide.

00:00:43.040 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:00:52.620 That's a grim show today. Even just reading that intro,

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00:03:33.020 Okay, that's fine.

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00:03:41.500 That was so covfefe and exciting that we needed just a day of pure death and misery.

00:03:46.840 But there's a lot to learn from all of that death and misery about us as a culture,

00:03:50.360 about how we treat life and death and expertise,

00:03:52.980 and a lot of misconceptions, too, about the Armenian genocide.

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00:04:04.320 that I'm citing, but we'll get to that toward the end of the show.

00:04:07.880 George Bush is in the hospital.

00:04:09.580 George Bush Sr., 93 years old.

00:04:11.340 Apparently, he was in intensive care.

00:04:12.860 He may still be there.

00:04:14.600 George Bush is 93 years old.

00:04:16.980 Last year, he was in the hospital for pneumonia,

00:04:19.460 and then a few months later, he was in the hospital again for pneumonia.

00:04:22.640 In 2014, I think he was hospitalized twice for pneumonia.

00:04:26.680 He's been in and out of the hospital a lot.

00:04:28.800 In 2015, he broke a bone in his neck, not from jumping out of airplanes,

00:04:34.240 even though he was still doing that up until age 90, I think, you know, jumping out of airplanes.

00:04:38.380 And he's a really vigorous guy, war hero.

00:04:42.340 But he has a disease called vascular Parkinsonism, which is a form of Parkinson's disease.

00:04:46.940 It makes him wheelchair bound.

00:04:49.080 And look, he's had a rough couple weeks.

00:04:51.480 His wife died.

00:04:52.400 His wife of 73 years has just died.

00:04:55.200 And so that's a lot of stress on a person, especially when, could you imagine,

00:04:59.500 your wife of 73 years dies.

00:05:01.500 You get married at age 20 or something.

00:05:04.020 And, you know, you write letters to each other.

00:05:06.160 You raise all these kids.

00:05:07.060 You have a child die.

00:05:08.040 You go through all of this together.

00:05:09.420 And you become an elected official.

00:05:12.040 You become the head of the CIA.

00:05:13.260 You become the president, vice president, and the president.

00:05:15.980 All of this together.

00:05:17.100 Your son becomes president.

00:05:18.480 You go through all of this together.

00:05:19.800 And when your wife dies, it's an international news event.

00:05:23.060 That's a lot of pressure.

00:05:24.760 So it's not surprising.

00:05:26.360 We know, by the way, that spouses who have been together for a very long time, when one

00:05:30.780 of them dies, the other frequently follows shortly thereafter.

00:05:34.800 And this is commonly attributed to broken heart syndrome.

00:05:37.360 So there was a 2007 study out of the University of Glasgow that I think attract 4,000 married

00:05:45.080 couples between the ages of 45 and 64.

00:05:49.020 And they wanted to see what happens when the spouse dies.

00:05:51.720 What does that do to the living spouse?

00:05:54.520 And the risk of death increases 30% in the six months following the spouse's death.

00:06:01.040 And that's for young people, relatively young people, 45 to 64.

00:06:04.040 And you got to figure that some of these guys don't like their spouses that much.

00:06:08.340 You know, not every marriage can be the Bush marriage.

00:06:10.940 They seem to really love each other.

00:06:13.120 George Bush spent the last day of his wife's life holding her hand beside her.

00:06:17.780 They really seem to get along very well.

00:06:19.840 So 30% among even young and healthy people.

00:06:24.460 For older couples, this manifests usually in pre-existing conditions.

00:06:28.520 So if you have a heart condition or you have a lung condition or whatever,

00:06:32.840 that'll just accelerate that. 0.85

00:06:35.040 Your immune system is down because of the stress.

00:06:37.820 For younger couples, it's more interesting because it actually is broken heart syndrome.

00:06:42.980 It simulates a heart attack.

00:06:45.320 So when you have a heart attack, there's usually blockage in an artery.

00:06:49.420 And that causes the symptoms of a heart attack and death.

00:06:52.060 With broken heart syndrome, there's so much stress that it actually simulates the symptoms

00:06:56.620 of a heart attack and also can kill you.

00:06:59.260 So who knows what caused this?

00:07:02.200 Presumably, it was a lot of stress bringing down his immune system.

00:07:04.960 Now, former President Bush has this blood disease.

00:07:07.980 Hopefully, he'll pull through this.

00:07:09.600 I mean, everybody is pulling for this guy.

00:07:11.920 Everybody's cheering him on.

00:07:13.020 All of Twitter is writing about him.

00:07:14.940 All of these news articles.

00:07:16.740 And I really hope he makes it through.

00:07:18.660 Some people are saying, well, he's going to go back to Barbara and their child who died

00:07:24.260 when they were younger and living in Texas.

00:07:27.500 But I hope he makes it through.

00:07:29.960 If you make it through the first six months, then usually things stabilize.

00:07:33.720 He says he wants to get back to his family's home in Kennebunkport, Maine.

00:07:36.760 I hope he can do that.

00:07:39.000 That said, that's, I mean, everyone's pulling for him.

00:07:42.700 The life expectancy in the United States is a little over 78 years, a little over 78.4 years.

00:07:48.840 And this guy's lived a good life.

00:07:51.180 He's outlived life expectancy by a lot.

00:07:54.200 He's done everything a person could possibly want to do.

00:07:57.580 He was the youngest pilot during World War II.

00:08:00.660 He survived getting shot down and was just on a raft for hours in the blazing hot sun in the Pacific.

00:08:08.140 Then he went to Yale, was captain of the baseball team, had a kid while he was there,

00:08:12.460 was tapped for Skull and Bones, the secret society there.

00:08:15.840 He then had this wonderful career.

00:08:18.140 He didn't go straight to Wall Street.

00:08:19.520 He went, became his own man out in West Texas.

00:08:21.600 He was an oil man.

00:08:22.960 He ran for office.

00:08:24.840 He was going to, you know, be an elected official, do his public service.

00:08:28.860 He makes it all the way up to become the head of the Republican National Committee and the head of the CIA,

00:08:33.640 the vice president for the greatest president of our lifetimes,

00:08:36.680 and the president of the United States for a spell, and his son got to be president.

00:08:40.240 That's pretty good.

00:08:41.460 That's a good life.

00:08:42.100 If you die after all of that and your loving wife is beside you for 93 years or, you know,

00:08:47.100 up until your 93rd year, that's a life well lived.

00:08:50.600 You can't hope for much more than that.

00:08:53.160 He was jumping out of airplanes at age 90.

00:08:57.800 Look, we hope he survives.

00:08:59.620 If he has lived a life well lived, good for him.

00:09:02.740 We should celebrate that wonderful life.

00:09:04.160 When Barbara Bush died, it was even stranger because she gave an announcement.

00:09:09.620 She said, I'm in terminal decline, basically, and I'm only going to focus on comfort care now.

00:09:15.580 I'm going to turn down medical interventions.

00:09:18.180 And people on Twitter were saying, we're pulling for you.

00:09:20.340 You'll survive, Barbara.

00:09:21.460 You're strong.

00:09:22.180 You'll survive.

00:09:23.080 And you think, no, she's made peace with this.

00:09:25.900 She's made peace with her death.

00:09:27.180 I mean, they have that Bush waspy reserve, so they didn't say Barbara is dying.

00:09:31.340 Get ready for the obituaries, but she's made peace with that.

00:09:34.440 George W. Bush mentioned this.

00:09:36.280 He said he talked to his mother and said, you know, Mom, are you ready to die?

00:09:38.940 And she said, I believe in Jesus.

00:09:40.860 I'm ready to go to my eternal reward.

00:09:42.680 And that's a healthy attitude.

00:09:44.200 You don't live forever.

00:09:46.020 You can hope for eternal life, but you can't live forever on this earth.

00:09:50.120 And I don't know really who would want to do that.

00:09:52.280 That's a, in this culture, though, we're in a materialist culture.

00:09:55.780 And so all we care about is just surviving, surviving, surviving.

00:09:59.180 But then it gets really strange, because in Britain, right now in Britain, there is a

00:10:04.180 little baby who is struggling for life, and the government is doing everything they can

00:10:08.020 to kill him. 0.93

00:10:08.760 Here's a news clip. 0.99

00:10:10.300 The parents of the terminally ill toddler Alfie Evans have lost the latest stage of their

00:10:15.220 legal battle over his life support.

00:10:17.740 Tom Evans and Kate James failed to persuade the Supreme Court that their son was being unlawfully

00:10:23.760 detained at Alderhay Children's Hospital in Liverpool.

00:10:26.340 The court also refused permission for the parents to appeal the decision.

00:10:31.140 The couple say they will now make an urgent application to the European Court of Human

00:10:36.120 Rights.

00:10:37.760 That's 23-month-old Alfie Evans.

00:10:40.160 And first of all, you get a real sense of socialism there, right?

00:10:43.280 The parents have basically no rights to their kids.

00:10:46.020 The government controls the health care and basically owns you.

00:10:49.260 And so we saw this again.

00:10:50.400 There was that little baby Charlie Gard.

00:10:52.120 The parents wanted to take him out and get medical care, and the socialist government

00:10:55.900 said, nope, it's ours.

00:10:58.040 Sorry, parents.

00:10:58.860 Get the parents away.

00:10:59.820 Get the parents away from that kid. 0.95

00:11:01.360 So the doctors are arguing, in this case, that little Alfie has been in a semi-vegetative

00:11:06.120 state for a year.

00:11:07.320 And I don't know what that means, by the way.

00:11:08.660 What is a semi-vegetative state?

00:11:10.280 Either you're in a vegetative state or you're not.

00:11:12.300 If you're a vegetable, you're just there kind of slack-jawed, not doing anything.

00:11:15.700 If you're in a semi-vegetative state, that means you're not in a vegetative state.

00:11:19.500 And photos of Alfie have come out, of Alfie hugging his mother off of life support, by

00:11:24.620 the way.

00:11:25.140 The government forced him off of life support, and yet he's still moving around and hugging

00:11:30.880 his mother and somehow surviving.

00:11:33.580 Now, the doctors are shocked by this.

00:11:35.900 They are shocked that little Alfie has continued to breathe for 18 hours at last check after

00:11:42.000 life support was turned off.

00:11:44.320 These are the same doctors, by the way, who say, listen, we know best for the kid.

00:11:48.260 We know what's going to happen.

00:11:49.900 Take him off of life support.

00:11:51.220 It's better for him.

00:11:52.100 We know exactly what's going on.

00:11:53.560 Oh, gosh, we're shocked when nothing we said was right.

00:11:57.500 And yet they're the experts.

00:11:58.600 They're the experts that we need to trust.

00:12:00.520 We'll get back to the experts in a little bit.

00:12:02.720 The parents want for Alfie to be able to travel to Rome for treatment.

00:12:07.100 The Italians, good Catholic country, Rome, city of the Pope, they say, send him over here.

00:12:12.240 We'll give him treatment.

00:12:13.340 If the British socialists don't want to do it, we will give him treatment.

00:12:17.760 The doctors said, well, we're not going to do it.

00:12:19.660 They've left him without food, water, or oxygen for six hours.

00:12:23.300 This little baby, this very ill little baby doesn't have food, water, oxygen, six hours.

00:12:27.220 He's still alive.

00:12:28.640 So the Pope tweets out.

00:12:30.440 He says, quote,

00:12:31.140 Not just that.

00:12:44.460 Not just a tweet from the Pope, which is pretty good.

00:12:46.300 And Italy granted Alfie citizenship on Monday.

00:12:51.200 So just yesterday, they give Alfie citizenship so that they can make a case to have this baby

00:12:56.200 transported out of the cold, murderous grip of these socialist bureaucrats and brought

00:13:01.920 to Italy where he can get some care.

00:13:03.760 The Italian embassy actually said, if you remove the ventilator from Alfie Evans, we will file

00:13:09.000 a complaint against this hospital, against Britain for the murder of an Italian citizen,

00:13:14.160 because that's what this is.

00:13:15.700 Now, what is the prognosis for Alfie?

00:13:17.880 He has a neurodegenerative disorder.

00:13:20.220 He is quite sick.

00:13:21.720 And, uh, that's what's at stake here. 0.99

00:13:24.140 He's got this disorder and should he be allowed to live or should the doctors kill him? 0.99

00:13:28.760 These specialists, the experts say it's better to let him die. 0.98

00:13:34.320 Now, what does that mean? 0.89

00:13:35.480 They say, oh, it's better to let him die.

00:13:37.560 But that's a, that's a philosophical question and a theological question.

00:13:41.500 That's not a scientific question or a medical question.

00:13:44.060 But they say, look, we're the medical experts.

00:13:46.440 We're, we're, we're the scientific experts.

00:13:48.760 So let, let us tell you how you should view life and the true goals and end of man.

00:13:54.140 So that has nothing to do with medicine.

00:13:56.480 You, you're, you're technicians practically.

00:13:58.860 You work on the body like an instrument, but we're talking about matters of life.

00:14:02.580 What is the purpose of life?

00:14:04.140 When should, when should life be ended?

00:14:06.240 When should it be vigorously protected?

00:14:10.060 This speaks to our bizarre view of experts and medicine and life.

00:14:16.040 We trust the experts in this technocratic bureaucratic age.

00:14:19.640 We just love to trust the experts.

00:14:21.740 The writer GK Chesterton had an excellent point on this.

00:14:24.800 He wrote, quote,

00:14:25.480 The trouble with the expert is that wherever he is not exceptionally learned, he is quite 0.97

00:14:31.340 casually ignorant. 0.64

00:14:33.080 This is the great fallacy in the case of what is called the impartiality of men of science. 0.74

00:14:38.300 If scientific men had no idea beyond their scientific work, it might be all very well. 0.98

00:14:43.820 That is to say all very well for everybody except for them because they continue to be ignorant.

00:14:47.960 But the truth is that beyond their scientific ideas, they have not the absence of ideas, 0.93

00:14:54.140 but the presence of the most vulgar and sentimental ideas that happen to be common to their social

00:14:59.380 clique.

00:15:00.140 If a biologist had no views on art and morals, it might be all very well.

00:15:04.500 The truth is that the biologist has all the wrong views of art and morals that happen to be going

00:15:09.700 about in the smart set of his time.

00:15:12.840 And this has always been true.

00:15:14.500 The doctor has absolutely no say over whether it is kinder to let a baby die or to try to save his life.

00:15:23.840 He doesn't know what kind is.

00:15:25.560 He doesn't know if kind is the purpose of life.

00:15:28.600 He doesn't know what is the purpose of life.

00:15:31.040 Parents perhaps ought to have some say over this.

00:15:33.600 They ought to have some say and say, you know, we view the world in this way and we have a

00:15:37.040 Christian point of view.

00:15:38.800 We direct our life in a Christian way or in an Aristotelian way or in a modern way

00:15:44.060 or whatever.

00:15:45.560 And this is the end of life.

00:15:47.500 And what the UK government is saying is, we don't care what you think.

00:15:51.660 We don't care what you think.

00:15:52.400 We have our own view of life and we're going to force it on you.

00:15:54.700 And we're going to have people who know absolutely nothing about philosophy or morals or theology.

00:16:00.020 They're just going to tell you.

00:16:01.200 This has always been the case.

00:16:03.060 You could see this.

00:16:04.160 Do you remember the new atheists? 0.99

00:16:05.540 That was Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins and Daniel Dennett, the

00:16:10.440 four horsemen of the apocalypse.

00:16:11.880 And they were these guys who decided to become fake philosophers overnight in the 2000s.

00:16:19.040 So you had a magazine writer like Christopher Hitchens, very good magazine writer, a really

00:16:23.960 fun guy to listen to and to read.

00:16:26.200 And he was pretending to be a philosopher.

00:16:28.560 And he was pretending to be a theologian.

00:16:30.200 And he pretended to make arguments against religion, even though he didn't make any arguments

00:16:34.180 against religion, because he doesn't know anything about religion.

00:16:37.160 Christopher Hitchens wrote a book called God is Not Great.

00:16:39.560 At no point in the book did he ever even suggest that God is not great.

00:16:43.360 He didn't make any argument that God is not great.

00:16:45.400 He just insinuated it all over the place.

00:16:48.480 But this was a publishing fad, basically, as David Bentley Hart pointed out on this show.

00:16:53.400 A guy like Richard Dawkins pretends that he has some great philosophical and theological

00:16:58.720 light, but he's a biologist.

00:17:01.640 He is actually Chesterton's example.

00:17:04.400 G.K. 1.00

00:17:04.720 Chesterton, as with so many other things, is predicting all of these idiots, these brilliant 1.00

00:17:08.940 idiots. 1.00

00:17:09.500 You know, they're smart in one field and totally dummies in all of the other fields. 1.00

00:17:13.180 And they're worse than dummies because they're given to whatever the fashionable thing is at 0.99

00:17:18.200 the time. 0.99

00:17:18.760 That's just what they believe.

00:17:19.840 So this biologist, Richard Dawkins, thinks it's fashionable to be an atheist.

00:17:24.440 And so he pretends that his credentials in one area somehow lead into credentials in another

00:17:30.380 area or lead into expertise in another area.

00:17:32.760 You see this with climate scientists, people who are physicists or atmospheric scientists.

00:17:38.800 They say, I know a lot about this very narrow thing.

00:17:42.780 So let me tell you how you should run your economy.

00:17:45.440 Let me tell you how you should run your government.

00:17:47.340 Let me tell you how the government should relate to the governed in the United States or

00:17:51.400 around the world.

00:17:52.060 No, no, no.

00:17:53.040 Listen, I'm a climate scientist.

00:17:55.240 I study, I don't even know what they study, like the temperature of balloons and above

00:17:59.820 the Arctic or something.

00:18:00.740 Who knows?

00:18:01.320 They, you know, they study like the, they put a little thermometer in a penguin's mouth

00:18:04.680 and they say, look, I know how to put a thermometer in a penguin's mouth.

00:18:08.420 So that's why American citizens should not be able to govern themselves anymore.

00:18:13.400 I'm an expert.

00:18:14.380 I put the thermometer in the penguin's mouth.

00:18:16.920 Stop trying to govern yourselves because now I'm apparently an expert on politics and

00:18:21.860 philosophy and economics and history and right.

00:18:25.040 Absolutely not.

00:18:26.100 And this gets to a really important point, which is we have this notion in modern culture,

00:18:31.820 in a fairly decadent culture and a very specialized culture that the experts should govern.

00:18:37.580 This is very prominent on the left in particular.

00:18:39.620 They say, what we should do for climate science is put the, in terms of government, we should

00:18:46.980 put the most specialized climate person in charge of the EPA, in charge of the Environmental

00:18:53.960 Protection Agency.

00:18:55.140 He's the expert.

00:18:56.220 So he should do, he should run the government agency that's related to that.

00:18:59.740 But really that expert is the last guy who should ever be in charge of that.

00:19:04.440 He is the last person we should ask to be the head of that agency because all he thinks

00:19:09.660 about is that one area.

00:19:11.760 All he's focused on is that one narrow field to the exclusion of all of the others.

00:19:16.200 Actually, we should have the guy who's not an expert on climate science.

00:19:19.160 He should be the one running it because he has a more general view of how that department

00:19:23.040 relates to the rest of the government and the private sector and the people who are,

00:19:27.420 who are being governed.

00:19:28.300 This is exactly true in the case of little Alfie, the doctors, the technocrats who say,

00:19:36.080 we, oh, we look, we're the experts on this particular brain disease.

00:19:39.180 So we're going to have a decision over what parents can do to their kids and where this

00:19:44.040 kid can be taken for other possibly lifesaving help.

00:19:47.700 We're going to, we're going to decide that because we're the experts put us in charge.

00:19:51.400 No, you're the experts on this one narrow subset of a brain disease or the technocrats.

00:19:57.160 You're the experts on this one narrow bureaucratic function of government.

00:20:02.500 And you think you ought to run everybody's lives and you think you ought to tell everybody

00:20:05.440 what to do and what the purpose of life is.

00:20:07.460 Absolutely not.

00:20:08.740 Absolutely not.

00:20:09.680 And this comparison here between how we relate to George Bush's sickness or Barbara Bush's

00:20:16.740 terminal decline and this little baby is so bizarre.

00:20:20.960 We're weeping for grandparents and we're murdering babies.

00:20:23.920 We're sobbing, we're wrenching our garments, we're rending our garments and gnashing our

00:20:29.580 teeth over people who have lived good lives. 0.98

00:20:32.240 And, uh, we're trying to kill this little baby and say, you can't live. 1.00

00:20:36.640 And it's because our view of life in this era is utilitarian. 0.96

00:20:40.780 It's a very utilitarian view.

00:20:42.740 We value some people over others.

00:20:45.760 We value some people over others.

00:20:47.420 This is the whole argument for abortion, by the way, the whole argument is, well, you know,

00:20:51.260 the, the convenience of the mother is much more important than the life of the child 0.54

00:20:56.780 because we, I, we like the mother more.

00:20:59.660 The mother has a job.

00:21:00.900 Maybe she went to college and you know, that baby hasn't really done anything.

00:21:04.920 What's that baby ever done for me?

00:21:06.700 What's that baby ever going to do for society?

00:21:08.560 This is the freakonomics argument for abortion.

00:21:11.560 They say, yeah, those kids who aren't wanted, they become a nuisance to society.

00:21:15.400 They don't have a lot of value.

00:21:16.480 They're not worth a whole lot.

00:21:17.460 So let's just get rid of them in the womb. 1.00

00:21:19.080 That'll make it easier and the mother will have a better time too. 0.99

00:21:21.620 That's okay.

00:21:21.960 Let's do that.

00:21:23.540 George Bush, Barbara Bush.

00:21:24.720 Those are good people.

00:21:25.900 Those are the good people who really matter.

00:21:27.440 We like having them around.

00:21:28.700 We need to save them.

00:21:29.680 They really matter.

00:21:30.680 Even though they've lived wonderful lives, really, really admirable lives.

00:21:34.740 And maybe it's coming to the end and they're going to go to their eternal reward.

00:21:37.500 No, we need them.

00:21:38.360 We want them.

00:21:39.000 We really like them.

00:21:40.020 But that little baby, oh, you know, that little baby with the brain disease, he's probably

00:21:43.340 going to cost the government a lot of money.

00:21:44.720 And he doesn't, he's not even that cute because he's, you know, a little disfigured from this 0.98

00:21:49.240 disease.

00:21:49.840 And oh, it just, no, no, let's get rid of him.

00:21:53.600 And the parents say, please, let us save the baby.

00:21:55.600 The Pope says, let us save the baby.

00:21:56.840 They say, no, no, he's not.

00:21:58.900 He doesn't have as much value as George Bush does.

00:22:01.620 So no, we're not, we're not going to do it.

00:22:03.500 It's really bizarre because that isn't the normal view of life.

00:22:07.500 That isn't the traditional view.

00:22:08.740 The traditional view is that life has a purpose.

00:22:11.120 It has a narrative, it has a beginning and a middle and an end.

00:22:14.120 And the Christian view is that we're all children of God and all life is valuable.

00:22:18.840 And even if you have the 99 sheep who are taking care of themselves and behaving well, and that 0.99

00:22:23.860 one sheep goes astray, the good shepherd goes and saves that sheep.

00:22:27.300 That's the Christian view.

00:22:28.940 That's the traditional Western view.

00:22:30.620 And we've lost it.

00:22:31.780 We're losing that view.

00:22:32.620 And it's totally incoherent and bizarre, even among libertarians, even among right-wing

00:22:37.300 coalitions.

00:22:37.840 I had Jason Stapleton on the show a couple of weeks ago, and he said, the libertarian

00:22:42.540 position is that you own your body.

00:22:44.960 We own our bodies, but that doesn't make any sense.

00:22:48.500 Why do you own your body?

00:22:49.920 His whole argument was that we own our property because we make it.

00:22:54.040 It comes from us.

00:22:55.180 You didn't create your own life.

00:22:57.200 Your life doesn't come from you.

00:22:59.000 Your life is a gift from somebody else.

00:23:00.760 Your life is a gift from God.

00:23:02.240 You don't own your life.

00:23:03.560 And the life that is lived for the good, the life that is lived in the Christian terminology

00:23:10.780 to give glory to God and enjoy him forever, that's a good life.

00:23:14.820 Or in the Aristotelian, the ancient terminology, to do the good, to pursue the good, to pursue

00:23:20.460 the virtues and practice the virtues, that's a different life.

00:23:23.680 But the one that's just lived for you, you say, I own my life and I'm just going to give

00:23:26.980 me pleasure.

00:23:27.760 Me, me, me, me, me.

00:23:28.900 That's the modern view and it's shared by the left and the right and it just isn't

00:23:31.880 true and it leads to a hollow life and it leads to moral absurdity like weeping and

00:23:38.180 crying and getting very stressed out because people who have lived good lives are dying

00:23:43.280 at an old age and yet at the same time trying to kill little babies because they don't give

00:23:48.560 you enough value. 0.98

00:23:49.340 It doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:23:51.440 Before we cut to the break, a word on terrorism.

00:23:56.080 This is another one causing a lot of trouble.

00:23:57.820 You saw the news story yesterday.

00:24:00.180 A young, apparently crazy guy in Toronto named Alec Minassian killed 10 and injured 15 and

00:24:08.040 I mention his name only because it's not, you know, Abu Muhammad Muhammad.

00:24:13.300 It isn't a name, an Islamic name that we hear so much and so at the moment it appears that

00:24:19.380 this guy isn't Muslim.

00:24:20.960 They aren't really releasing a lot of information about him but it doesn't seem to be a religiously 0.76

00:24:26.380 inspired attack and he does seem really crazy.

00:24:30.220 He, he, uh, he praised that woman-hating mass killer from California, Elliot Rodger.

00:24:36.460 His classmates said that when he was in school he didn't have any friends.

00:24:40.000 The, the guy, uh, Alec attended a special needs high school.

00:24:43.700 Apparently he would walk down the hallways with his heads down and his hands together making

00:24:48.800 meowing sounds.

00:24:50.660 It sounds like a crazy person and the left objects.

00:24:54.720 They object. 0.98

00:24:55.680 They say, you know, when it's a Muslim perpetrator, you call him a terrorist. 1.00

00:25:00.000 But when it's just some white guy, you say he's crazy. 0.99

00:25:04.580 You say, uh, frequently that's true because frequently the Muslim attackers are terrorists 1.00

00:25:10.200 and frequently the white guys are a bit crazy. 1.00

00:25:13.060 Not all the time. 1.00

00:25:14.520 Uh, sometimes the white guys are actual racists. 1.00

00:25:17.640 Sometimes they are terrorists like the one who shot up that black church. 1.00

00:25:21.380 Uh, but this guy was crazy. 0.99

00:25:23.180 You know, this guy seems very crazy. 0.99

00:25:24.400 The, the Orlando terrorist, the Muslim terrorist who shot up that gay nightclub in Orlando, 0.99

00:25:30.620 he didn't seem crazy. 0.99

00:25:32.420 He seemed to have his life sort of together.

00:25:34.180 He had a wife and he called the police and he said, I pledge allegiance to ISIS.

00:25:40.120 I pledge allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and I'm committing this crime in the name of Islam. 1.00

00:25:46.620 And so you call that guy a Muslim terrorist. 0.79

00:25:48.380 You point that out. 0.99

00:25:49.040 But he, the guy who's crazy and meows to himself and doesn't have any friends, maybe that guy's 1.00

00:25:53.440 just a little mentally ill or deficient. 0.99

00:25:56.040 The left calls this a double standard. 0.96

00:25:57.920 It was reported in the Guardian.

00:25:59.820 The headline was, we must end the terror double standards.

00:26:04.360 And the piece went on in their rush to connect this attack to international terrorism.

00:26:08.920 Journalists and politicians are missing a key fact.

00:26:11.340 It takes no special training to run people over with a vehicle.

00:26:14.200 You don't need to be a dangerous foreigner to buy fake weapons like a paint gun or a pellet gun. 1.00

00:26:18.820 Anyone can shout Allahu Akbar.

00:26:20.700 It's easy to say you claim allegiance to ISIS. 0.75

00:26:24.200 This was in response to a New York terrorist attack by a Muslim terrorist.

00:26:27.980 Say, yeah, anyone can say Allah is greater.

00:26:33.000 They can say Allahu Akbar.

00:26:34.060 Anyone can claim allegiance to ISIS.

00:26:35.740 But when they do that, they're claiming allegiance to ISIS.

00:26:38.480 And that is a terrorist act, right?

00:26:40.540 They are carrying out this act in the name of Islam, a political act against civilians in the name of Islam. 0.91

00:26:48.740 That's terrorism.

00:26:49.860 USA Today has another one and another attack.

00:26:52.180 They say Trump's double standard on guns and terrorism.

00:26:55.420 No politics unless he says so.

00:26:57.720 What they're really saying is he doesn't call it terrorism unless it's terrorism.

00:27:00.540 Here is the left-wing argument.

00:27:03.000 Well, it's central to the coverage, right?

00:27:05.220 So if we look back at how Orlando was covered, immediately, without any investigation to him, he had a motive simply because he was a Muslim. 0.73

00:27:13.440 We find out later that it was much more complicated, that he had identity issues and all these other things.

00:27:18.160 But the media jumps out right away, right, and gives usually white shooters the privilege of acting as an individual, as not acting on behalf of a race or a group.

00:27:28.040 That doesn't happen to any other people, especially Muslims or Arabs.

00:27:32.860 Well, first of all, he did have identity issues. 0.97

00:27:35.040 He identified as a Muslim terrorist. 0.94

00:27:36.920 That was the main identity issue. 0.98

00:27:38.280 That's what made him commit the attack.

00:27:40.660 And you see what they do.

00:27:41.800 They always say, they try to blur these things.

00:27:43.700 And they say, oh, it's just, it's race.

00:27:45.320 You're being racist.

00:27:46.260 But that radical Islam isn't a race.

00:27:49.380 It's not a race at all.

00:27:50.260 It's an idea.

00:27:51.340 It's a religious ideology.

00:27:52.660 There is a difference here between when a crazy person goes and shoots up a place and when someone does it for a purpose, when they target civilians for a purpose.

00:28:03.700 Terrorism has a definition.

00:28:05.940 Now, we, there are a lot of definitions of terrorism floating around.

00:28:09.060 I'm not, I don't know what Merriam-Webster says, but terrorism does have a definition.

00:28:13.800 It is when you target civilians to achieve a political purpose.

00:28:19.200 It's when you attack civilians for a political end.

00:28:22.620 That is the broad definition of terrorism.

00:28:26.080 And so, Islamic terrorism fits that definition. 0.94

00:28:30.040 The 9-11 attack on the World Trade Center fits that definition.

00:28:33.300 It was targeting civilians to achieve a political end.

00:28:38.200 Now, the left hates drawing this distinction.

00:28:40.940 They hate it.

00:28:41.840 They hate it.

00:28:42.780 They try to blur and they try to obfuscate because they want to avoid responsibility.

00:28:47.960 Here's Hillary Clinton giving the example par excellence of, of this blurring.

00:28:55.060 With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans.

00:28:59.320 Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans?

00:29:04.840 What difference at this point does it make?

00:29:07.700 It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator.

00:29:15.000 What difference at this point does it make?

00:29:16.840 It only makes a difference if you want to identify and solve the problem.

00:29:21.660 And Hillary Clinton doesn't want to do any of that because she was responsible for these things. 1.00

00:29:26.200 She was, well, rather, she wasn't responsible for the attack.

00:29:29.560 She was irresponsible and her irresponsibility led to the attack. 0.99

00:29:32.960 She was reckless in advocating an intervention in Libya which helped to lead to the attack and help facilitate it.

00:29:38.880 She doesn't want to identify the problem.

00:29:40.920 You can only solve a problem if you identify the problem.

00:29:43.500 But the left does not want to identify the problem.

00:29:46.080 They want to say, oh, it's all the same.

00:29:47.500 It's all, who knows?

00:29:48.380 It's senseless.

00:29:49.080 They always use this.

00:29:49.880 They say, these crimes are senseless.

00:29:52.460 And some crimes are senseless.

00:29:55.000 When a crazy person thinks that his armoire is speaking to him and telling him to go drive a bus into people, that is senseless.

00:30:03.680 That's irrational. 0.92

00:30:05.300 Something has misfired in his brain and so he's senseless.

00:30:10.740 But when somebody does it for a purpose and they say, look, my religious faith tells me that we need to go kill these people and we need to do it to affect this political goal and this religious goal, that's not senseless.

00:30:21.800 That has perfect sense.

00:30:23.220 There is a logic to it.

00:30:24.300 It's a bizarre logic.

00:30:25.480 It's an evil logic.

00:30:26.660 But it is a logic.

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00:32:00.580 Before we get to the Armenian Genocide, 0.69

00:32:13.120 that's like a big...

00:32:15.140 Before we get to one of the worst events of the century,

00:32:17.700 let me...

00:32:18.040 Yeah, I know you're all excited for it,

00:32:19.580 but really, people are abusing language when it comes to the Armenian Genocide,

00:32:24.320 and just as in this example,

00:32:26.680 it's not helping us to identify the problem.

00:32:29.020 So you can take the example of a recent series of attacks in New York.

00:32:33.560 Here's what's been going on in New York the last week.

00:32:35.820 Bandaged and badly bruised,

00:32:37.760 42-year-old Ari Ellis stands with his Brooklyn community

00:32:40.780 just days after he was attacked on Eastern Parkway.

00:32:43.900 I don't understand why, you know, they had to pick me.

00:32:50.320 Police say the Orthodox Jewish man was punched in the face repeatedly

00:32:54.140 about a week and a half ago,

00:32:56.080 left with broken ribs and a broken nose.

00:32:58.400 I wonder, do people realize this is anti-Semitism?

00:33:01.400 At the Crown Heights intersection,

00:33:02.940 another Jewish man was assaulted Saturday afternoon

00:33:05.720 while walking home from synagogue.

00:33:07.600 I greeted him, hello, and go and continue.

00:33:12.060 The next thing I know is that he says, 0.91

00:33:14.080 I don't like Jews. 1.00

00:33:15.660 Who are you talking to? 0.91

00:33:16.500 I don't talk to Jews. 0.85

00:33:18.640 He put me in a headlock, 0.56

00:33:19.660 and I'm trying to maneuver out of him.

00:33:21.980 And in the meantime, I'm screaming, help, help, help.

00:33:24.480 And the next thing, and he says, you don't need help. 0.99

00:33:27.140 We're going to kill you right here. 1.00

00:33:29.380 It looks awful. 1.00

00:33:30.300 The guy's got a big black eye.

00:33:33.000 And what's the motive?

00:33:34.720 What's the motive?

00:33:35.340 You know, if this were Hillary Clinton, 0.99

00:33:36.480 she would say, hey, what difference does it make?

00:33:38.940 What difference if a guy, you know,

00:33:40.940 he just randomly doesn't like,

00:33:42.680 I don't know, nice hats or something, 0.99

00:33:45.240 or he goes and he hates Jews and he hits them. 0.98

00:33:47.360 What difference does it make? 0.99

00:33:48.520 It makes a big difference.

00:33:49.360 Anti-Jewish attacks rose 92% last year in New York City

00:33:54.340 and rose 90% in New York State over the last year.

00:33:58.860 That matters.

00:34:00.080 It isn't just random crime that rose,

00:34:01.980 although Bill de Blasio hasn't done a great job on that either,

00:34:04.940 but it does matter because in order to solve the problem,

00:34:08.600 you have to identify it.

00:34:09.940 If there's a surge in anti-Jewish attacks,

00:34:13.060 then we need to find out why that is.

00:34:15.000 Who is perpetrating it?

00:34:16.600 Which groups of people are perpetrating it?

00:34:18.180 Which neighborhoods is it happening in?

00:34:20.340 Why is it happening?

00:34:21.540 How can we punish the perpetrators

00:34:24.140 and make sure this doesn't keep happening?

00:34:26.680 If it's just random violence,

00:34:28.620 then you could make a bunch of initiatives

00:34:30.800 that wouldn't have any effect on anti-Jewish crime.

00:34:35.000 You have to identify the problem,

00:34:36.440 then you can solve the problem.

00:34:37.680 The left doesn't want to do either.

00:34:38.860 They're totally uninterested in either.

00:34:41.260 That brings us to this day in history.

00:34:43.340 Today is the 99th annual Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day.

00:34:53.660 And the Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day

00:34:55.500 commemorates the Armenian Genocide,

00:34:57.760 as you might imagine,

00:34:59.000 in which the Muslim Ottoman Empire

00:35:00.760 murdered around 2.5 million of its Christian subjects,

00:35:04.700 including not just 1.5 million Armenian Christians,

00:35:07.460 but also upwards of 3 quarters of a million Greek Christians

00:35:10.820 and 300,000 Assyrian Christians.

00:35:14.120 And nobody is allowed to talk about this.

00:35:16.520 There are a lot of places in the world right now,

00:35:19.900 a lot of countries,

00:35:20.900 who don't even admit that the Armenian Genocide happened,

00:35:23.940 including Turkey,

00:35:24.840 including the state that perpetrated it,

00:35:27.280 or the successor state of the Ottoman Turks,

00:35:29.860 which continues to deny that genocide.

00:35:32.600 A lot of other countries deny it too.

00:35:34.140 The last U.S. president to talk about it explicitly

00:35:36.900 and to state explicitly that it happened

00:35:40.620 was Ronald Reagan.

00:35:42.140 Though various Congresses and people have talked about it,

00:35:46.600 they simply don't want to anger the Turks,

00:35:49.820 who are occasionally our allies.

00:35:52.020 So the Armenian Genocide happened during World War I,

00:35:56.040 and there were two phases.

00:35:57.640 There was the wholesale killing of able-bodied Christian men,

00:36:00.680 and then the deportation of the remaining Armenian women

00:36:04.020 and children and elderly and disabled

00:36:06.140 to death marches to the Syrian desert.

00:36:09.220 There was no food or water on these death marches,

00:36:11.720 and all of the Armenians were regularly robbed

00:36:14.080 and raped and slaughtered en route.

00:36:16.440 This wasn't ancient history, by the way.

00:36:18.300 This wasn't, you know, 400 years ago, 600 years ago.

00:36:21.820 This was just a century ago,

00:36:23.400 during and after World War I.

00:36:25.280 And I got in a bit of trouble on Twitter today,

00:36:27.600 because a bunch of illiterates didn't read what I said.

00:36:31.260 I pointed out that the Armenian Genocide

00:36:32.960 is not primarily a genocide.

00:36:35.660 It's not primarily a genocide.

00:36:37.340 It is a genocide.

00:36:38.440 The Armenians were targeted,

00:36:40.960 but they weren't targeted for their race.

00:36:42.980 Genocide means race killing. 0.90

00:36:45.920 It comes from geno, like your genes, you know, G-E-N. 1.00

00:36:49.540 And it targets a race.

00:36:52.340 Now, what you might say, you say,

00:36:53.480 well, you know, I read the 2017 Merriam-Webster definition.

00:36:56.960 Right, whatever.

00:36:57.880 Well, you know, the people who use the term use it to...

00:37:00.460 Right, again, I don't care.

00:37:02.160 Gene, genos, has a meaning, and it's a race,

00:37:04.680 a race of people, a group of people.

00:37:06.520 And the Armenians were not targeted

00:37:08.000 only because they were Armenian.

00:37:10.220 They weren't even targeted primarily

00:37:11.520 because they were Armenian.

00:37:12.720 They were targeted because they were Christian.

00:37:14.820 They were targeted by Muslim Turks,

00:37:16.960 and they were the subjects of those Muslim Turks,

00:37:19.420 and they were targeted for being Christian.

00:37:20.920 That's why, by the way, Greek Christians

00:37:22.700 and Assyrian Christians were gathered up

00:37:25.740 in this persecution.

00:37:27.660 There were 300,000, I think,

00:37:30.240 Assyrian Christians who were killed,

00:37:32.160 three-quarters of a million Greek Christians

00:37:33.900 who were killed.

00:37:34.680 It wasn't just because those three races

00:37:37.000 were the ones that the Turks hated.

00:37:39.100 It's because they were targeting Christianity. 0.82

00:37:43.320 This is an important distinction.

00:37:45.240 What you'll hear is, oh, what does it matter?

00:37:47.460 Oh, what does it matter if it was the people,

00:37:49.340 the race, or the religion?

00:37:50.360 And it matters because if you want to solve the problem,

00:37:53.180 you have to identify the problem.

00:37:54.760 And this is not just ancient history

00:37:56.780 and not just 100 years ago.

00:37:57.880 It's happening today.

00:37:59.180 According to a study this year, 2018,

00:38:01.780 by Aid to the Church in Need,

00:38:03.400 Christian persecution and genocide in the Middle East

00:38:06.360 is now worse than any time in history.

00:38:09.380 The study writes,

00:38:10.600 Not only are Christians more persecuted

00:38:12.160 than any other faith group,

00:38:13.720 but ever-increasing numbers are experiencing

00:38:15.900 the very worst forms of persecution.

00:38:18.320 In the Middle East, Christian babies 1.00

00:38:19.700 are hanged from trees. 0.92

00:38:21.040 Christian teenagers are crucified. 1.00

00:38:23.180 The study found that the only country 0.95

00:38:24.840 that didn't get worse

00:38:26.180 in its treatment of Christians

00:38:27.720 was Saudi Arabia.

00:38:29.260 And the only reason that it didn't get any worse

00:38:30.720 is because it couldn't get any worse.

00:38:32.700 When you're at the bottom,

00:38:34.140 there's not very far to go.

00:38:37.060 Now, that isn't genocide.

00:38:38.620 There are racial groups and ethnic groups

00:38:40.940 that are lumped in with that

00:38:42.220 because they're mostly or almost entirely Christian.

00:38:45.540 But this is about religion, not race.

00:38:48.320 This is a religious persecution.

00:38:50.320 This is Muslim regimes and Muslim groups 0.98

00:38:53.860 persecuting Christians. 0.81

00:38:55.800 That's not the same as race.

00:38:57.840 Ideas are not passed in the bloodstream.

00:39:00.220 Certain peoples are not just naturally

00:39:02.960 one religious group or another religious group.

00:39:06.700 They're ideas.

00:39:07.460 Ideas are passed in the brain and in the tradition.

00:39:10.140 They're not passed in the bloodstream.

00:39:11.620 Syria was a Christian country or a Christian area.

00:39:16.260 St. Paul was converted on the road to Damascus.

00:39:19.880 It was only in the 7th century that Syria became,

00:39:23.020 or 8th century even,

00:39:24.220 that Syria became Muslim rather than Christian.

00:39:28.480 Now, to discuss these things,

00:39:30.380 to talk about it in religious terms,

00:39:31.860 that's considered Islamophobic.

00:39:33.960 We can only talk in the racial terms.

00:39:35.360 If we talk in the racial terms,

00:39:36.460 maybe that's okay.

00:39:37.720 Some countries still won't deal with it,

00:39:39.280 but we can do that.

00:39:40.020 But we're not allowed to talk about the Armenian genocide

00:39:42.340 for what it really was,

00:39:43.460 a religious persecution.

00:39:45.720 That's Islamophobic, 0.97

00:39:47.040 the irrational fear of Islam. 0.99

00:39:49.780 I wonder, was that fear irrational

00:39:52.460 for the 2.5 million Christians

00:39:54.100 who were slaughtered by Muslim Turks 100 years ago?

00:39:57.260 Was it irrational for the countless Christians 1.00

00:39:59.740 who are persecuted by Muslim terrorists 0.91

00:40:02.580 and regimes today? 0.86

00:40:04.160 I wonder if those who have been slaughtered

00:40:06.440 could accuse the West of Islamophobia phobia.

00:40:08.520 We're not allowed to talk about these things, though.

00:40:10.840 We can't talk about them as they really are,

00:40:12.840 so what we're going to continue to do

00:40:14.300 is blur and obfuscate.

00:40:16.700 Even on an important point,

00:40:18.100 yes, there was a genocide,

00:40:20.200 but what was it more broadly?

00:40:21.900 Why were the Greeks and the Assyrians 1.00

00:40:23.220 brought in to that awful slaughter, too?

00:40:26.520 What is this really about?

00:40:28.420 If you want to solve the problem,

00:40:29.840 you have to identify the problem,

00:40:31.560 but nobody wants to solve those problems.

00:40:34.200 It's just not politically correct.

00:40:36.840 All right, that's our show.

00:40:38.280 Maybe we'll have to do something

00:40:39.340 that's less grim tomorrow.

00:40:40.940 Maybe we'll need, like,

00:40:41.640 some streamers and balloons or something.

00:40:43.660 I don't know.

00:40:44.540 He's smoking cigars and drinking on set

00:40:46.120 to get over this grim, dismal,

00:40:49.220 death-laden podcast.

00:40:51.480 But, you know,

00:40:51.940 very important to talk about these things.

00:40:53.680 Really says a lot about the culture.

00:40:54.940 Okay, get your mailbag questions in.

00:40:56.300 I will see you tomorrow.

00:40:57.180 I'm Michael Knowles.

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 24, 2018

Ep. 144 - Weeping For Grandpas, Murdering Babies

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