The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1445 - Right-Winger Imprisoned For Memes In Group Chats

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00:00:30.480 A right-wing activist and former member of parliament

00:00:33.240 has been sentenced to prison in Belgium

00:00:35.580 for posting racist memes to a group chat.

00:00:40.180 The right-winger's name is Dries van Langenhove.

00:00:44.080 He will serve a year in prison

00:00:45.800 in addition to being deprived of certain civil rights

00:00:48.060 for a decade,

00:00:49.140 during which time he cannot hold

00:00:50.820 or even run for public office.

00:00:52.820 He also has to pay a 16,000 euro fine,

00:00:55.600 and he received an additional 10-month

00:00:57.900 suspended prison sentence.

00:01:00.980 Van Langenhove,

00:01:02.380 I'm sure I'm pronouncing his name incorrectly,

00:01:04.100 is not just some random right-winger.

00:01:06.360 He is a former MP

00:01:07.520 and a member of the Vlaamsbalang party,

00:01:10.860 which according to Politico's poll of polls

00:01:12.980 is the, quote,

00:01:13.940 biggest political force in Belgium.

00:01:17.620 Going to prison

00:01:18.600 for some spicy memes

00:01:20.860 sent to a private group chat.

00:01:22.920 Lots of complacent conservatives in America

00:01:25.880 will make excuses for this kind of thing.

00:01:28.900 Some will say,

00:01:30.000 well, that one,

00:01:31.780 he really is a racist Nazi.

00:01:34.100 Okay.

00:01:34.880 Some will say,

00:01:36.160 well, you know,

00:01:36.820 his party really is far right.

00:01:39.000 Biggest political force in Belgium,

00:01:40.380 but sure,

00:01:40.940 oh, it's really far, far right.

00:01:43.460 Some will say,

00:01:44.700 look, it's Belgium.

00:01:46.220 That sort of thing could never happen here.

00:01:48.340 Except it already is happening.

00:01:52.500 The Biden administration

00:01:53.900 is currently,

00:01:55.420 right now,

00:01:56.680 imprisoning

00:01:57.420 a random right-winger,

00:01:59.320 not a former member of parliament,

00:02:00.940 not a leader of a party,

00:02:02.320 a random right-winger

00:02:03.760 for posting memes

00:02:05.820 on social media.

00:02:07.440 Douglas Mackey

00:02:08.120 is serving a seven-month

00:02:09.620 prison sentence

00:02:10.900 after having been threatened

00:02:12.380 with 10 years in jail

00:02:14.520 for posting memes.

00:02:16.300 Not even far-right racist memes,

00:02:17.960 just like memes,

00:02:18.900 just kind of funny memes.

00:02:20.080 The Democrats

00:02:20.820 already call

00:02:22.260 the Republican Party

00:02:23.400 far-right,

00:02:24.720 and they call the leader

00:02:25.580 of the Republican Party

00:02:26.500 a racist and a Nazi.

00:02:28.160 I wish I could say,

00:02:30.660 today it's happening in Belgium,

00:02:32.660 tomorrow it might be us.

00:02:34.820 Unfortunately,

00:02:35.520 things are a bit further along

00:02:36.520 than that.

00:02:37.420 It's already happening here.

00:02:39.880 The only question

00:02:40.960 is how much worse

00:02:42.440 we will allow things to get.

00:02:45.540 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:02:46.240 This is the Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:47.960 Welcome back to the show.

00:03:09.080 Whoopi Goldberg

00:03:09.760 is threatening to jail Trump

00:03:11.140 if he touches

00:03:12.440 Social Security and Medicare.

00:03:14.180 Social Security and Medicare

00:03:15.780 became something

00:03:16.460 of a non-traversy

00:03:17.380 yesterday on the internet.

00:03:18.160 We'll get to that

00:03:18.760 in a moment.

00:03:22.180 I hope that I will see

00:03:23.400 you all later tonight.

00:03:25.300 I'm going to

00:03:26.220 UW-Madison.

00:03:28.320 I think I'm still invited.

00:03:30.580 I was invited.

00:03:31.800 Then I was disinvited.

00:03:33.380 Then the student group

00:03:35.100 was able to

00:03:35.940 get me back in

00:03:36.900 and beat the administration.

00:03:37.940 So in any case,

00:03:38.540 I'll be there.

00:03:39.400 I was asked to speak

00:03:40.240 on abortion.

00:03:41.440 We will cover

00:03:42.140 all of that.

00:03:43.300 We will cover broadly

00:03:44.060 the case against murder,

00:03:46.000 which is a great time

00:03:47.000 to do so

00:03:47.540 because all throughout

00:03:48.480 the West,

00:03:49.200 people are really confused

00:03:50.300 about the morality of murder.

00:03:52.340 French president,

00:03:54.060 Emmanuel Macron,

00:03:56.860 who's been president

00:03:57.780 there for quite some time

00:03:58.840 and is kind of a

00:03:59.680 center liberal

00:04:01.560 by French standards,

00:04:03.300 is now supporting

00:04:04.580 assisted suicide,

00:04:06.280 which even

00:04:06.960 five, ten years ago

00:04:08.040 would have been considered

00:04:08.600 a far radical left idea.

00:04:11.040 Now it's even the kind

00:04:12.240 of mainstream liberals

00:04:13.360 who are supporting it.

00:04:14.900 Macron has announced

00:04:16.060 new legislation

00:04:16.820 to legalize,

00:04:17.700 quote, aid in dying

00:04:18.880 that will allow adults

00:04:20.940 who are facing

00:04:22.000 end-of-life illnesses.

00:04:23.720 So they always say

00:04:24.400 it's very limited cases.

00:04:25.760 It's always just

00:04:26.200 the most extreme

00:04:28.760 fringe cases

00:04:30.700 of people

00:04:31.300 who only have days

00:04:32.380 or weeks to live.

00:04:33.380 They can now

00:04:34.360 kill themselves

00:04:35.320 by poisoning themselves.

00:04:37.120 In an interview

00:04:37.900 with the French newspaper

00:04:39.540 La Croix,

00:04:40.200 not to be confused

00:04:41.120 with the bubbly

00:04:41.740 flavored seltzer water

00:04:43.240 and with Libération,

00:04:46.340 Macron has said

00:04:48.720 that the new bill

00:04:49.420 will be restricted

00:04:50.380 to adults

00:04:51.820 suffering

00:04:52.520 from an incurable illness.

00:04:55.180 And it's only

00:04:55.960 for the adults

00:04:56.640 who are expected

00:04:57.260 to die

00:04:57.780 in the short

00:04:58.980 or middle term.

00:05:00.980 Now hold on,

00:05:01.380 wait, what?

00:05:02.280 Already,

00:05:03.000 this is what always happens

00:05:04.020 with the

00:05:04.780 assisted suicide

00:05:05.960 legislation.

00:05:07.420 They always say,

00:05:07.840 oh, it's the most extreme case

00:05:08.780 is people who are 110 years old

00:05:10.660 who are going to die

00:05:11.680 within hours.

00:05:12.320 They get to just take a pill

00:05:13.880 and kill themselves.

00:05:14.780 That's it, though.

00:05:15.920 There's no slippery slope.

00:05:17.160 It's never going to extend

00:05:18.420 to people who are

00:05:18.960 a little younger,

00:05:19.940 people who are

00:05:20.480 in less dire straits.

00:05:22.280 And then already

00:05:23.340 in the legislation,

00:05:24.640 they're saying

00:05:24.960 it's people who are

00:05:26.300 expected to die

00:05:26.860 in the short term

00:05:27.540 or the middle term

00:05:28.980 or the middle term

00:05:30.940 or, I don't know,

00:05:31.580 maybe the long term

00:05:32.280 or whatever.

00:05:33.300 If you want to kill yourself,

00:05:34.220 please do it.

00:05:34.700 And we've seen this

00:05:36.040 everywhere this takes hold,

00:05:37.800 in Belgium in particular,

00:05:39.480 in the Netherlands,

00:05:40.600 for goodness sakes,

00:05:41.340 in the United States.

00:05:43.440 Younger and younger people

00:05:44.640 for flimsier

00:05:46.060 and flimsier reasons,

00:05:48.260 some of whom

00:05:49.020 do not even have

00:05:49.780 terminal illnesses,

00:05:50.840 are then afforded

00:05:52.120 the opportunity

00:05:52.820 to kill themselves.

00:05:55.040 People who say

00:05:55.820 they just have depression.

00:05:57.380 People,

00:05:57.680 in fact,

00:05:58.080 there's one very famous case

00:05:59.580 of a woman

00:06:00.320 who signed away

00:06:01.040 her right to life

00:06:01.960 and she said,

00:06:02.540 yeah,

00:06:02.740 at some point

00:06:03.200 when I get a little more senile,

00:06:04.360 just kill me.

00:06:05.340 But then,

00:06:06.000 as that date approached,

00:06:07.520 she didn't want to die

00:06:08.340 and she refused the poison

00:06:09.680 and actually her family

00:06:11.540 and a doctor

00:06:12.720 held her down

00:06:13.560 and gave her the poison

00:06:14.840 and she died.

00:06:17.680 Younger people,

00:06:19.060 people who don't have,

00:06:20.900 you know,

00:06:21.100 an imminent fatal illness

00:06:23.320 like a cancer

00:06:24.040 or something,

00:06:24.640 they just have depression.

00:06:25.720 They'll say,

00:06:25.980 well,

00:06:26.080 I'm depressed

00:06:26.560 so I'm going to kill myself.

00:06:28.080 It just expands

00:06:28.800 to the point now

00:06:30.020 where you have countries

00:06:31.540 in the West

00:06:32.340 talking about

00:06:33.920 and even administering

00:06:35.260 assisted suicide

00:06:36.120 to minors.

00:06:37.460 Okay,

00:06:37.920 really,

00:06:38.580 really scary stuff.

00:06:40.960 Macron says

00:06:41.560 the law will offer,

00:06:42.780 quote,

00:06:42.920 a possible path

00:06:43.840 in a determined situation

00:06:45.080 with precise criteria

00:06:46.620 where the medical decision

00:06:48.800 is playing the role.

00:06:50.820 Uh-huh.

00:06:51.520 Right.

00:06:52.220 Good luck with that.

00:06:53.000 It'll never happen.

00:06:53.920 It would be evil

00:06:55.060 in all circumstances.

00:06:57.580 But

00:06:58.120 he knows this.

00:07:01.420 The liberal politicians

00:07:02.400 know this.

00:07:03.080 This is why they're trying

00:07:04.020 to circumscribe it

00:07:04.860 and it never actually

00:07:05.860 works that way.

00:07:07.200 And it shouldn't exist

00:07:07.940 in the first place.

00:07:08.660 It is always wrong

00:07:09.540 to commit murder

00:07:10.240 and it is always wrong

00:07:11.120 to kill yourself.

00:07:12.640 It is contrary

00:07:13.540 to natural law.

00:07:14.760 It has all sorts

00:07:15.500 of moral hazards

00:07:16.280 in public life.

00:07:17.960 And the only silver lining

00:07:19.660 of this terrible story

00:07:20.700 I can see

00:07:21.180 is that it will

00:07:22.720 provide ample fodder

00:07:24.500 for our story tonight,

00:07:26.800 our speech

00:07:27.360 at UW-Madison,

00:07:29.220 because we are living

00:07:30.140 in a culture of death.

00:07:31.680 Do you ever notice

00:07:32.880 that all of the liberal plans

00:07:34.420 always seem

00:07:35.260 to redound

00:07:37.000 to fewer human beings?

00:07:39.820 We notice that

00:07:40.420 we have

00:07:41.960 too many people

00:07:43.640 so we need abortion

00:07:45.040 and contraception.

00:07:46.440 Women

00:07:46.900 want to go work

00:07:48.100 in the widget factory

00:07:48.820 so they need to be able

00:07:49.600 to kill their kids

00:07:50.260 through abortion.

00:07:51.420 Oh, granny

00:07:51.920 is feeling a little ill today

00:07:53.740 so we got to go kill granny.

00:07:55.560 Oh, actually,

00:07:56.400 you know,

00:07:56.620 your depressed friend

00:07:57.540 over there,

00:07:58.340 he, you know,

00:07:58.900 he's not so happy.

00:07:59.800 He needs to be able

00:08:01.120 to kill himself too.

00:08:02.460 Oh, you know,

00:08:03.400 the global warming

00:08:04.380 is going to get us all.

00:08:05.620 That's why you need

00:08:06.240 to have fewer children.

00:08:07.880 You know,

00:08:08.540 we just need fewer

00:08:09.620 and fewer

00:08:10.640 and fewer people.

00:08:11.840 Almost demonic,

00:08:12.780 you would say.

00:08:13.500 Anyway,

00:08:13.800 we'll be discussing

00:08:14.460 that tonight.

00:08:15.140 This is a great way.

00:08:16.360 This policy,

00:08:17.360 even beyond the morality of it,

00:08:19.960 this is a great way

00:08:20.760 to kill your country.

00:08:22.580 We have dying populations

00:08:24.860 throughout the West.

00:08:26.240 There's no Western country

00:08:27.260 that's been spared from it.

00:08:29.220 And only one country

00:08:30.580 has even begun

00:08:31.260 to turn the birth rate

00:08:32.080 problem around.

00:08:32.740 That would be Hungary

00:08:33.460 under Viktor Orban.

00:08:35.900 But this is a great way

00:08:36.840 to do it.

00:08:37.140 If you want to kill

00:08:37.600 your country,

00:08:38.220 you want to kill

00:08:38.740 your civilization,

00:08:40.160 you can open up

00:08:41.060 the borders,

00:08:41.680 you can wreck the economy,

00:08:43.400 you can shake up

00:08:44.940 the political order.

00:08:46.640 But the most direct way

00:08:47.860 to do it

00:08:48.160 is just to actually

00:08:48.720 kill your citizens,

00:08:49.840 which is what they're doing

00:08:50.620 and what they will

00:08:51.540 probably continue to do.

00:08:53.340 Now,

00:08:53.660 there is some good news

00:08:54.300 coming from overseas.

00:08:55.140 The United Kingdom

00:08:57.460 has just announced

00:08:58.280 that their National Health Service

00:08:59.760 will stop

00:09:00.720 transing

00:09:02.060 the kids.

00:09:03.740 And let's just bring you

00:09:04.640 a bit of breaking news,

00:09:05.280 which may be of interest

00:09:05.960 to some of you.

00:09:07.320 It's about

00:09:07.940 puberty blockers.

00:09:09.460 Now,

00:09:09.880 these are drugs

00:09:11.260 that are used

00:09:11.800 to delay

00:09:12.500 the changes

00:09:13.420 of puberty

00:09:14.120 in transgender

00:09:15.440 youngsters.

00:09:17.320 In terms of how

00:09:18.420 they are prescribed

00:09:19.140 by the NHS,

00:09:20.180 there has been

00:09:20.480 a lot of controversy

00:09:21.280 over the last few years

00:09:22.300 about this.

00:09:23.500 At the moment,

00:09:24.300 they are only prescribed

00:09:25.260 to children attending

00:09:26.700 gender identity services

00:09:27.900 as part of clinical research.

00:09:30.580 And they are not

00:09:32.260 routinely offered

00:09:33.260 to children

00:09:34.160 at gender identity clinics,

00:09:35.620 but they are still offered.

00:09:37.000 Well,

00:09:37.120 the government,

00:09:37.840 NHS England,

00:09:38.580 has just confirmed

00:09:39.580 that children

00:09:40.500 will no longer

00:09:41.800 be prescribed

00:09:42.660 puberty blockers

00:09:43.700 at gender identity clinics.

00:09:45.740 This is coming

00:09:46.220 from NHS England.

00:09:47.480 It just broke

00:09:48.080 in the last few moments.

00:09:50.500 Notice this woman,

00:09:51.600 this news presenter,

00:09:53.160 can't even catch up

00:09:54.500 to the new euphemisms

00:09:55.720 they're all using.

00:09:56.460 She says,

00:09:57.240 you know,

00:09:57.720 there have been

00:09:58.060 these puberty blockers

00:09:59.480 prescribed

00:10:00.680 to transgender youngsters.

00:10:03.820 Transgender youngsters.

00:10:04.880 There's no such thing

00:10:05.440 as a transgender youngster,

00:10:06.780 which everyone knows.

00:10:09.140 Most people know

00:10:09.880 there's no such thing

00:10:10.540 as a transgender person

00:10:11.880 because it's not possible

00:10:13.060 for a man

00:10:13.580 to secretly be a woman

00:10:14.500 or vice versa.

00:10:15.260 It's just a nonsense.

00:10:17.440 But even more people

00:10:19.800 than understand that

00:10:21.180 understand that

00:10:21.740 there's no such thing

00:10:22.260 as a transgender child.

00:10:24.060 What are you talking about?

00:10:25.000 That's crazy.

00:10:26.180 But she's still using

00:10:27.680 the old language

00:10:28.520 until she's reading

00:10:29.780 in real time

00:10:30.540 that the NHS

00:10:31.560 is now phasing out

00:10:33.160 the transing of the kids.

00:10:35.040 Well, hold on.

00:10:35.960 If we're no longer

00:10:36.780 going to give

00:10:37.240 puberty blockers,

00:10:38.320 which is the first step

00:10:39.300 of the transing

00:10:40.160 the kids process,

00:10:41.560 to the kids,

00:10:42.800 what does that say

00:10:44.060 about the transgender kids?

00:10:45.880 It says that

00:10:46.780 the health service

00:10:48.060 in the UK,

00:10:49.460 which is part of the government,

00:10:51.460 it's a political institution,

00:10:52.920 they have now made

00:10:53.600 the decision,

00:10:54.200 okay, no more trans kids.

00:10:56.580 There are no trans kids.

00:10:58.020 They'll still probably say

00:10:59.060 there are trans adults

00:10:59.980 and trans teenagers

00:11:02.040 or whatever,

00:11:02.440 but trans kids,

00:11:03.540 that one's out.

00:11:04.460 So, 10 years ago,

00:11:06.060 there was no such thing

00:11:06.740 as trans kids.

00:11:08.240 Starting, I don't know,

00:11:09.060 five years ago,

00:11:09.820 they pretended

00:11:10.600 there were trans kids.

00:11:11.840 Now, we're back to

00:11:12.720 there's no such thing

00:11:13.460 as trans kids.

00:11:14.180 And the liberal news presenters

00:11:15.300 and the pundits

00:11:15.960 and the politicians,

00:11:17.480 it's going to take them

00:11:18.180 a little while to catch up,

00:11:19.380 but they will catch up.

00:11:20.580 And they are going to

00:11:21.340 memory hole this thing

00:11:22.300 so hard.

00:11:24.080 As many of us on the right

00:11:25.920 have said from the beginning,

00:11:27.400 the transgender transition

00:11:29.240 is the modern day lobotomy.

00:11:31.780 The transgender transition

00:11:33.080 is quack witch doctor

00:11:35.780 pseudoscience

00:11:36.880 that leaves people

00:11:38.580 much worse off

00:11:39.620 than they started,

00:11:40.340 that attempts to deal

00:11:42.620 with a semi-real problem.

00:11:45.020 I guess the semi-real problem

00:11:47.620 is that some people

00:11:48.340 are confused about their sex.

00:11:49.500 They're not actually

00:11:49.980 the wrong sex,

00:11:50.620 but they are confused about it.

00:11:52.740 And they attempt

00:11:54.040 to treat that

00:11:55.180 by castrating people,

00:11:56.700 by giving them bone diseases,

00:11:57.980 by shortening

00:11:58.460 their life expectancy,

00:11:59.960 by chopping them up,

00:12:01.540 by cutting flesh

00:12:02.860 off their arms

00:12:03.720 and their legs

00:12:04.360 and creating these

00:12:05.580 grotesque Frankenstein

00:12:07.140 phalli.

00:12:07.800 It's just so hideous

00:12:09.780 what these people

00:12:10.340 are doing.

00:12:11.540 And it'd be bad enough

00:12:13.040 that they're doing it

00:12:13.520 to adults,

00:12:13.960 but they're doing it

00:12:14.580 to little kids as well

00:12:15.860 who obviously don't have

00:12:17.020 the ability to consent

00:12:18.220 to anything,

00:12:19.160 certainly not to these

00:12:19.740 permanent sexual changes.

00:12:21.860 And so they've been doing it

00:12:23.140 for a few years now.

00:12:24.360 They realize increasingly

00:12:25.800 it's ghastly.

00:12:26.640 It doesn't play

00:12:27.080 with the public.

00:12:27.940 And so they're going to

00:12:28.660 phase it out.

00:12:29.620 And they're probably

00:12:30.400 at some point going to deny

00:12:31.680 that they ever did it.

00:12:32.580 And they'll move on

00:12:33.380 to some new kooky thing.

00:12:34.820 But really good news.

00:12:35.800 I'll take the win

00:12:36.460 while I can get it.

00:12:37.940 Even if the libs

00:12:39.360 are having trouble

00:12:40.760 keeping up

00:12:41.300 and they're contradicting

00:12:41.920 themselves in real time.

00:12:43.200 This is good news.

00:12:44.340 This means that we

00:12:45.640 are winning.

00:12:46.840 This is a winning issue

00:12:47.800 for conservatives,

00:12:48.860 not even just in America,

00:12:50.400 even in the UK,

00:12:51.520 throughout the West,

00:12:52.680 reality still has a say

00:12:54.860 and it still has currency

00:12:55.920 with the public.

00:12:57.420 There's so much more to say.

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00:14:24.100 Speaking of

00:14:25.180 weird sex stuff,

00:14:28.760 George Stephanopoulos

00:14:30.400 just grilled Republican

00:14:32.820 Congress lady

00:14:34.320 Nancy Mace

00:14:35.520 over how to square

00:14:37.460 her endorsement

00:14:38.580 of Donald Trump

00:14:40.780 with the fact

00:14:41.960 that she has spoken

00:14:42.920 publicly

00:14:43.500 about being a victim

00:14:44.920 of rape.

00:14:46.220 Here's Nancy Mace's answer.

00:14:48.120 You've endorsed

00:14:48.620 Donald Trump

00:14:49.040 for president.

00:14:50.300 Judges and two

00:14:51.220 separate juries

00:14:52.020 have found him

00:14:52.520 liable for rape

00:14:53.620 and for defaming

00:14:54.600 the victim of that rape.

00:14:56.120 How do you square

00:14:56.800 your endorsement

00:14:57.440 of Donald Trump

00:14:58.140 with the testimony

00:14:58.940 we just saw?

00:14:59.640 Well, I will tell you

00:15:01.220 I was raped

00:15:01.800 at the age of 16

00:15:03.200 and any rape victim

00:15:05.320 will tell you

00:15:05.940 I've lived for 30 years

00:15:07.300 with an incredible

00:15:08.640 amount of shame

00:15:10.060 over being raped.

00:15:11.000 I didn't come forward

00:15:11.680 because of that judgment

00:15:12.900 and shame

00:15:13.480 that I felt.

00:15:14.820 And it's a shame

00:15:16.900 that you will never

00:15:17.620 feel, George,

00:15:19.000 and I'm not going

00:15:19.600 to sit here

00:15:20.000 on your show

00:15:20.580 and be asked

00:15:21.760 a question

00:15:22.340 meant to shame me

00:15:23.620 about another

00:15:24.760 potential rape victim.

00:15:26.080 I'm not going to do that.

00:15:27.340 It's actually not

00:15:27.980 about shaming you.

00:15:28.600 It's a question

00:15:29.000 about Donald Trump.

00:15:29.560 No, you are shaming me.

00:15:30.040 You've endorsed

00:15:30.600 Donald Trump for president.

00:15:32.160 Donald Trump

00:15:32.540 has been found liable

00:15:33.600 for rape by a jury.

00:15:35.780 Donald Trump

00:15:36.140 has been found liable

00:15:37.140 for defaming

00:15:38.000 the victim of that rape

00:15:39.460 by a jury.

00:15:40.640 It's been affirmed

00:15:41.340 by a judge.

00:15:42.120 It was not a criminal

00:15:43.300 court case,

00:15:44.540 number one.

00:15:45.120 Number two,

00:15:46.820 I live with shame.

00:15:48.500 And you're asking me

00:15:49.620 a question about

00:15:50.240 my political choices

00:15:51.300 trying to shame me

00:15:52.380 as a rape victim

00:15:53.100 and I find it disgusting.

00:15:54.540 And quite frankly,

00:15:56.000 E. Jean Carroll's comments

00:15:57.360 when she did get

00:15:58.240 the judgment

00:15:58.780 joking about

00:15:59.660 what she was going

00:16:00.340 to buy,

00:16:01.400 it makes it harder

00:16:02.940 for women to come forward

00:16:04.160 when they make a mockery

00:16:05.560 out of rape,

00:16:06.460 when they joke about it.

00:16:08.700 I don't even like

00:16:09.800 Nancy Mace all that much.

00:16:11.040 I think she's a big lib

00:16:12.160 as far as Republicans go.

00:16:13.800 She is 100%

00:16:15.880 correct here.

00:16:17.380 And what George

00:16:18.020 Stephanopoulos is doing

00:16:19.240 is not only egregious

00:16:21.180 in itself,

00:16:21.920 but it's especially

00:16:22.980 egregious

00:16:23.600 when you remember

00:16:24.600 who George Stephanopoulos is.

00:16:26.360 George Stephanopoulos

00:16:27.220 was the communications director,

00:16:28.860 the White House

00:16:29.180 communications director

00:16:29.920 for Bill Clinton.

00:16:31.720 George Stephanopoulos

00:16:32.640 was the leader

00:16:34.520 of the Clinton war room.

00:16:36.000 This guy's job

00:16:37.060 was to attack

00:16:38.160 Bill Clinton's

00:16:39.100 female victims,

00:16:40.200 not just

00:16:41.100 jilted lovers

00:16:42.220 and paramours.

00:16:43.980 Bill Clinton

00:16:44.460 is much more

00:16:45.780 credibly accused

00:16:46.660 of rape

00:16:47.100 than Donald Trump

00:16:48.180 ever has been.

00:16:50.020 And George Stephanopoulos'

00:16:51.720 job,

00:16:52.420 the thing he got

00:16:52.980 paid to do

00:16:53.720 was to attack

00:16:54.700 those people,

00:16:55.780 including

00:16:56.300 the relatively

00:16:58.540 credible

00:16:59.280 rape accuser

00:17:02.040 of Bill Clinton.

00:17:04.620 And he has the audacity,

00:17:06.820 the gall,

00:17:07.680 to sit across

00:17:08.240 from Nancy Mace

00:17:08.880 and say,

00:17:09.200 how could you possibly,

00:17:10.840 you are a victim of rape,

00:17:12.260 how could you possibly

00:17:13.340 endorse Donald Trump

00:17:15.860 who was accused

00:17:16.980 of rape

00:17:17.440 by a complete lunatic

00:17:18.640 who changed her story

00:17:19.580 a thousand times?

00:17:21.020 When I say

00:17:21.900 that the Clinton accuser

00:17:23.820 is much more credible

00:17:25.420 than the accuser

00:17:27.420 of Donald Trump,

00:17:28.880 let's not forget

00:17:29.720 this clip,

00:17:30.580 also from a liberal

00:17:31.380 news channel,

00:17:31.960 which has been

00:17:32.820 memory-holed

00:17:33.500 because it didn't

00:17:33.980 quite fit the narrative.

00:17:35.040 This is Trump's accuser

00:17:36.580 on what allegedly

00:17:39.000 happened 30 years ago

00:17:40.580 in a Bergdorf

00:17:41.500 Goodman's dressing room.

00:17:42.640 You don't feel like a victim?

00:17:44.740 I was not thrown

00:17:45.440 on the ground

00:17:46.040 and ravished.

00:17:47.220 The word rape

00:17:48.320 carries so many

00:17:49.220 sexual connotations.

00:17:51.420 This was not,

00:17:52.300 this was not sexual.

00:17:54.660 It just,

00:17:55.380 it hurt.

00:17:56.480 It just,

00:17:56.920 it just,

00:17:57.800 you know.

00:17:58.020 I think most people

00:17:58.840 think of rape

00:17:59.640 as a,

00:18:00.640 I mean,

00:18:00.840 it is a violent

00:18:01.640 assault.

00:18:02.780 It is not a sexual...

00:18:03.320 I think most people

00:18:03.940 think of rape

00:18:04.580 as being sexy.

00:18:07.120 Let's take a short break.

00:18:08.060 Think of the fantasies.

00:18:09.040 We're going to take

00:18:11.420 a quick break.

00:18:12.340 If you can stick around,

00:18:13.180 we'll talk more

00:18:13.660 on the other side.

00:18:14.660 You're fascinating

00:18:15.340 to talk to.

00:18:17.960 Anderson Cooper.

00:18:18.980 You know who's more

00:18:19.660 fascinating to talk to?

00:18:20.800 E. Jean Carroll,

00:18:21.700 who speaks openly

00:18:22.880 about her

00:18:23.880 rape fantasies

00:18:25.340 and

00:18:26.760 might lead one

00:18:28.600 to conclude

00:18:29.220 that this story

00:18:30.180 that,

00:18:31.060 you know,

00:18:31.420 Trump showed up

00:18:32.420 in a Bergdorf Goodman

00:18:33.740 to,

00:18:34.280 you know,

00:18:35.000 ravish E. Jean Carroll

00:18:36.880 might have a little

00:18:38.060 element of fantasy

00:18:39.040 to it as well.

00:18:40.700 Maybe,

00:18:41.040 just maybe,

00:18:42.020 compared to other

00:18:42.680 accusations.

00:18:43.420 And George Stephanopoulos

00:18:44.860 has the gall

00:18:46.860 to sit across

00:18:47.820 from Nancy Mace,

00:18:49.660 this guy

00:18:50.180 whose job

00:18:51.520 it was

00:18:52.100 to smear

00:18:52.840 rape victims,

00:18:53.840 relatively credible

00:18:54.980 rape victims.

00:18:57.380 It tells you

00:18:58.280 one thing

00:18:58.600 about politics.

00:19:00.000 Today,

00:19:00.660 in 2024,

00:19:03.340 the libs

00:19:03.940 are never

00:19:04.880 engaging

00:19:06.260 in good faith

00:19:07.340 debates

00:19:07.780 when it comes

00:19:08.300 to high-stakes

00:19:08.860 politics.

00:19:10.660 When they

00:19:11.340 accuse you,

00:19:12.340 I'm talking about

00:19:12.800 not in private

00:19:13.960 conversations

00:19:14.700 or, you know,

00:19:15.540 when you're talking

00:19:16.080 to your friend

00:19:16.700 who's been brainwashed

00:19:17.540 by CNN or whatever,

00:19:18.660 but when you're

00:19:19.040 talking to the real

00:19:19.680 players,

00:19:20.240 people like

00:19:20.620 George Stephanopoulos,

00:19:22.440 people like

00:19:23.040 Biden and the

00:19:23.840 campaign,

00:19:25.220 people on CNN,

00:19:26.960 when they call you

00:19:28.780 a racist,

00:19:31.520 it is never

00:19:33.040 in good faith.

00:19:34.780 That term

00:19:36.140 I don't think

00:19:36.520 is ever

00:19:36.780 really thrown

00:19:37.240 around in good

00:19:37.660 faith,

00:19:37.960 but it's

00:19:38.300 certainly not

00:19:38.980 in those,

00:19:39.300 when they call

00:19:39.640 you a racist

00:19:40.160 or a rapist

00:19:40.920 or a fascist,

00:19:41.700 or do you

00:19:42.080 remember,

00:19:42.780 this is what

00:19:43.380 Kara Swisher,

00:19:44.220 the liberal

00:19:44.520 journalist,

00:19:45.360 suggested the

00:19:46.120 Biden campaign,

00:19:46.780 just hammer those

00:19:47.400 three words,

00:19:47.940 call him a racist,

00:19:48.640 call him a rapist,

00:19:49.380 call him a fascist.

00:19:50.260 They never use

00:19:51.360 those terms

00:19:51.780 in good faith.

00:19:52.620 One theoretically

00:19:53.540 could use those

00:19:54.960 terms in good

00:19:55.520 faith,

00:19:56.020 and I think

00:19:57.060 conservatives often

00:19:57.900 hear those terms

00:19:58.760 and they say,

00:19:59.180 well,

00:19:59.380 am I a racist?

00:20:00.680 I don't know.

00:20:01.120 Some of my best

00:20:01.560 friends are black

00:20:02.080 or whatever.

00:20:02.660 I don't think

00:20:03.460 I'm a fascist.

00:20:04.140 I actually want

00:20:04.620 to shrink

00:20:04.880 the government

00:20:05.280 and I don't

00:20:05.660 want it.

00:20:06.520 Guys,

00:20:07.180 it's just

00:20:08.140 fake,

00:20:09.200 okay?

00:20:09.500 It's just not,

00:20:11.200 these people

00:20:11.800 are acting

00:20:12.620 in a very

00:20:13.200 cynical way.

00:20:14.740 They always

00:20:15.360 are,

00:20:15.840 and all of

00:20:16.460 their questions

00:20:17.000 basically amount

00:20:17.840 to do you

00:20:18.520 still beat

00:20:19.100 your wife,

00:20:19.740 okay?

00:20:20.040 There's no

00:20:21.520 good answer.

00:20:22.860 They're not

00:20:23.180 seeking truth

00:20:23.800 here.

00:20:24.420 Just forget

00:20:25.020 about it.

00:20:25.480 Forget about

00:20:26.080 these people.

00:20:27.680 Stephanopoulos,

00:20:28.280 the fact that

00:20:29.140 Bill Clinton's

00:20:29.860 attack dog

00:20:30.580 pretends to

00:20:32.220 be a journalist

00:20:32.780 on network

00:20:35.100 TV tells

00:20:36.260 you everything

00:20:36.940 you need

00:20:37.720 to know.

00:20:39.160 Speaking of

00:20:39.760 practical politics,

00:20:41.360 Whoopi Goldberg

00:20:41.980 and network

00:20:42.420 TV,

00:20:42.980 Whoopi Goldberg

00:20:43.520 on The View

00:20:44.140 has just

00:20:45.020 threatened to

00:20:46.100 jail President

00:20:47.220 Trump.

00:20:47.660 How she's going

00:20:48.060 to do that,

00:20:48.440 I'm not quite

00:20:48.820 sure.

00:20:49.420 She's threatened

00:20:49.920 to jail him

00:20:50.660 if he even

00:20:52.100 thinks about

00:20:53.780 touching

00:20:54.220 entitlement

00:20:54.680 programs.

00:20:55.740 The bad

00:20:56.540 management of

00:20:57.260 entitlements,

00:20:58.000 tremendous bad

00:20:58.740 management of

00:20:59.680 entitlements.

00:21:00.340 There's tremendous

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00:21:02.520 things,

00:21:03.040 numbers of

00:21:03.680 things you

00:21:04.060 can do.

00:21:05.120 Yeah,

00:21:05.620 we could put

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00:21:10.980 For all of

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00:21:16.680 You know,

00:21:17.060 Social Security

00:21:18.020 is not an

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00:21:21.860 We paid for

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00:21:27.200 This is your

00:21:28.900 money.

00:21:29.400 You know,

00:21:30.800 so does he

00:21:32.460 have some

00:21:33.040 supporters so

00:21:33.940 obsessed with

00:21:34.920 the idea of

00:21:35.720 beating Democrats

00:21:36.800 that they're not

00:21:37.820 focused on what

00:21:38.940 this man is

00:21:40.100 saying?

00:21:41.140 A little bit of

00:21:41.740 a non sequitur

00:21:42.720 here from

00:21:43.260 Whoopi,

00:21:43.780 as is often

00:21:44.360 the case on

00:21:45.160 The View.

00:21:46.580 Yeah,

00:21:46.880 listen,

00:21:47.280 our entitlement

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00:21:48.680 actually kind of

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00:21:50.520 whack here and

00:21:51.140 they have been

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00:21:52.180 Yeah,

00:21:52.480 we're going to

00:21:52.780 put you in

00:21:53.280 jail.

00:21:53.740 What?

00:21:56.100 You're already

00:21:56.700 trying to put him

00:21:57.260 in jail for like

00:21:57.800 900 years or

00:21:58.760 something.

00:21:59.520 Okay,

00:22:00.180 now you're going

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00:22:01.200 jail for suggesting

00:22:02.160 that maybe we

00:22:02.920 need to tweak

00:22:03.620 aspects of the

00:22:04.340 federal budget.

00:22:05.080 Okay,

00:22:05.620 she brings up a

00:22:06.580 point though that

00:22:08.080 is an actual

00:22:08.640 controversy in

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00:22:16.240 It's a big

00:22:17.020 point of change

00:22:18.260 when Trump took

00:22:19.240 over the

00:22:19.560 Republican Party

00:22:20.260 from the party

00:22:20.860 as it had been

00:22:21.640 in the decade

00:22:22.340 prior.

00:22:22.740 And it's a

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00:23:36.280 Should Republicans

00:23:37.460 reform entitlements?

00:23:40.860 What do you,

00:23:41.380 reform entitlements?

00:23:43.100 You're going to take

00:23:43.600 away my Social

00:23:44.220 Security?

00:23:45.200 You're going to take

00:23:45.600 away my Medicare?

00:23:46.340 You're going to throw

00:23:46.660 a granny off a cliff?

00:23:47.600 Like Barack Obama

00:23:49.140 once accused Paul

00:23:49.980 Ryan of trying to

00:23:50.740 do?

00:23:51.300 No, I don't think

00:23:52.240 so.

00:23:53.060 But there is a big

00:23:53.920 split here.

00:23:55.120 Ben and Matt both

00:23:56.360 got in trouble for

00:23:57.300 saying that we need

00:23:58.340 to raise the

00:24:00.100 retirement age and

00:24:00.980 reform entitlements

00:24:02.420 yesterday.

00:24:03.380 And some Republicans,

00:24:04.480 some conservatives

00:24:04.940 attacked them for

00:24:05.700 saying this.

00:24:06.660 Some defended them.

00:24:07.820 So what's it all

00:24:08.340 about?

00:24:11.640 Ten years ago,

00:24:13.540 I guess more now,

00:24:14.200 maybe a dozen years

00:24:14.940 ago, during the

00:24:15.600 height of the Tea

00:24:16.400 Party movement,

00:24:17.760 entitlement reform

00:24:18.800 was a big issue

00:24:19.980 that Republicans

00:24:20.640 wanted to take on

00:24:21.680 because it had

00:24:23.200 always been a third

00:24:23.940 rail in American

00:24:24.680 politics.

00:24:26.000 You even suggest

00:24:27.320 touching Social

00:24:28.020 Security,

00:24:29.260 Medicare,

00:24:30.080 you are getting

00:24:30.820 thrown out of

00:24:31.400 office,

00:24:31.940 you are dead

00:24:32.760 on the campaign

00:24:33.560 trail.

00:24:34.880 But people like

00:24:35.840 Paul Ryan started

00:24:36.680 to do it,

00:24:37.220 and they got

00:24:37.640 creamed for it,

00:24:38.660 and the Democrats

00:24:39.280 and Obama really

00:24:40.060 hammered them for it.

00:24:41.180 But the Republicans

00:24:41.940 kept it up.

00:24:42.560 They said,

00:24:42.820 look,

00:24:43.280 entitlements make up

00:24:44.400 most of the

00:24:44.900 federal budget.

00:24:45.440 When we say

00:24:46.640 entitlement programs,

00:24:47.440 by the way,

00:24:47.820 we're not saying

00:24:48.580 that it's quite

00:24:49.920 like a welfare

00:24:50.440 program.

00:24:51.060 I mean,

00:24:51.300 Whoopi Goldberg

00:24:51.760 makes a point

00:24:52.240 here,

00:24:52.460 which is you

00:24:53.060 pay into

00:24:53.500 Social Security.

00:24:54.360 You pay

00:24:54.880 into Medicare.

00:24:55.800 So it's not

00:24:56.240 like you're on

00:24:57.100 the dole or

00:24:57.620 something.

00:24:57.920 This is money

00:24:58.300 you've paid

00:24:58.740 into,

00:24:59.660 and so you

00:25:00.200 want to get

00:25:00.460 the money

00:25:00.720 back.

00:25:01.080 Except it's

00:25:01.420 not actually

00:25:03.100 your money

00:25:03.520 in the sense

00:25:03.960 that the

00:25:04.280 government

00:25:04.500 already spent

00:25:04.980 your money.

00:25:05.740 And so the

00:25:06.220 entitlement reform

00:25:06.940 people were

00:25:07.400 always saying,

00:25:08.380 well,

00:25:08.620 look,

00:25:09.580 we're running

00:25:10.260 out of money.

00:25:10.660 We have to raise

00:25:11.040 the retirement age.

00:25:11.580 It's not

00:25:12.020 going to be

00:25:12.280 solvent.

00:25:13.260 This is just

00:25:14.320 a fiscal reality

00:25:15.820 that we have

00:25:16.460 to deal with.

00:25:17.440 And then along

00:25:17.880 came Donald

00:25:18.300 Trump.

00:25:19.480 And along

00:25:19.800 came,

00:25:20.640 or along

00:25:21.100 returned,

00:25:21.820 more populist

00:25:22.500 elements of

00:25:22.920 the GOP.

00:25:23.480 And they said,

00:25:24.320 you know what?

00:25:25.300 We've got other

00:25:26.060 areas that we can

00:25:26.820 cut.

00:25:27.060 Even though

00:25:27.460 entitlements make

00:25:28.120 up the bulk

00:25:28.560 of the federal

00:25:29.020 budget,

00:25:29.740 we are not

00:25:30.500 going to go

00:25:30.800 after entitlements.

00:25:31.660 We're not

00:25:31.860 going to try

00:25:32.820 to raise

00:25:33.540 the retirement

00:25:34.100 age or skimp

00:25:35.500 on granny's

00:25:36.680 Social Security

00:25:37.280 check.

00:25:37.780 We're going

00:25:38.200 to grow,

00:25:39.540 and we're going

00:25:39.840 to find money

00:25:40.320 elsewhere,

00:25:40.660 but we're not

00:25:41.120 touching that

00:25:41.580 sort of thing.

00:25:42.080 So who's

00:25:42.520 right?

00:25:42.820 This seems

00:25:43.120 like it's

00:25:43.380 a major

00:25:43.780 battle within

00:25:45.040 the Republican

00:25:45.500 Party.

00:25:46.520 Both sides

00:25:47.040 are going

00:25:47.260 to demand

00:25:47.760 that they're

00:25:48.180 right.

00:25:48.800 As a purely

00:25:50.000 political matter,

00:25:53.020 Paul Ryan

00:25:53.520 was wrong,

00:25:54.300 Donald Trump

00:25:54.760 was right.

00:25:56.020 I remember

00:25:56.840 those days.

00:25:57.840 I'm not denying

00:25:58.820 the fiscal

00:25:59.220 problem.

00:25:59.760 Ben and Matt

00:26:00.620 and Paul Ryan

00:26:01.660 for that matter,

00:26:02.640 all are right

00:26:04.220 as a financial

00:26:05.180 matter.

00:26:06.960 The entitlement

00:26:07.740 programs have

00:26:09.000 ballooned so much,

00:26:10.120 the politicians

00:26:10.640 have been so

00:26:11.180 irresponsible with

00:26:12.260 the so-called

00:26:13.720 Social Security

00:26:14.640 Fund, which

00:26:15.300 isn't really a

00:26:15.840 fund, they just

00:26:16.260 spend all the

00:26:16.660 money.

00:26:17.740 Yeah, the only

00:26:18.700 way to get the

00:26:19.340 budget in any

00:26:20.100 way in line is

00:26:21.040 to deal with the

00:26:22.140 majority of the

00:26:22.700 federal budget.

00:26:23.340 So as a

00:26:23.960 financial matter,

00:26:25.180 they're right.

00:26:26.600 As a political

00:26:27.400 matter, that's

00:26:29.100 not the correct

00:26:29.700 view.

00:26:30.900 The premise

00:26:31.920 back in the

00:26:32.760 height of the

00:26:33.180 Tea Party was,

00:26:34.540 we need to

00:26:35.600 stop focusing on

00:26:36.420 the social issues

00:26:37.280 and we need

00:26:38.120 to focus on

00:26:39.320 the economic

00:26:40.000 issues.

00:26:40.460 Mitch Daniels,

00:26:41.020 who I love,

00:26:41.660 he was a great

00:26:42.220 governor in

00:26:42.580 Indiana, he

00:26:43.320 suggested a

00:26:43.920 social truce so

00:26:45.160 that we could

00:26:45.420 get our fiscal

00:26:45.920 house in order

00:26:46.520 and deal with

00:26:47.300 the new red

00:26:47.900 menace, this

00:26:48.540 red menace,

00:26:49.040 not Soviet

00:26:49.520 communism, this

00:26:50.220 red menace,

00:26:50.940 consisting of ink

00:26:51.780 on a ledger

00:26:52.460 because we were

00:26:52.960 in the red.

00:26:55.580 Didn't work.

00:26:57.020 Didn't work.

00:26:58.620 We pulled back

00:27:00.040 on the social

00:27:00.580 issues a little

00:27:01.160 bit.

00:27:01.580 Did we fix the

00:27:02.240 fiscal problem?

00:27:03.320 No.

00:27:03.620 The fiscal

00:27:04.340 problems only

00:27:05.140 got worse

00:27:05.660 because the

00:27:06.440 miscalculation of

00:27:07.520 the Tea Party

00:27:08.160 and the

00:27:08.740 entitlement

00:27:09.140 reformers and

00:27:10.480 all of those

00:27:11.840 eggheads was

00:27:13.240 that you could

00:27:14.860 fix the fiscal

00:27:15.640 problems and

00:27:16.500 then fix the

00:27:17.040 social problems.

00:27:17.840 That's not how

00:27:18.640 it works.

00:27:19.500 You have to

00:27:20.240 fix the social

00:27:20.980 problems first.

00:27:22.660 This is something

00:27:23.360 that Trump, I'm

00:27:24.020 not saying it was

00:27:24.580 conscious, maybe

00:27:25.360 it's pure instinct,

00:27:26.840 it's purely

00:27:27.600 unwitting, but

00:27:28.680 whatever it is,

00:27:30.120 Trump and the

00:27:30.660 more populist

00:27:31.160 wings of the

00:27:31.600 GOP realized,

00:27:32.660 you're not going

00:27:33.180 to fix

00:27:33.560 your accounting

00:27:34.200 problems until

00:27:35.320 you fix your

00:27:36.540 social problems.

00:27:37.700 We're talking

00:27:38.400 about politics

00:27:39.160 here, folks.

00:27:39.540 We're talking

00:27:39.780 about society.

00:27:40.760 The social

00:27:41.280 problems are

00:27:42.060 everything.

00:27:45.060 The way our

00:27:46.080 books balance

00:27:47.880 out is a

00:27:48.920 consequence of

00:27:49.740 how our

00:27:50.120 society actually

00:27:51.160 functions.

00:27:52.260 So if you

00:27:52.720 don't have

00:27:53.060 functional

00:27:53.400 borders, if

00:27:54.120 you don't

00:27:54.400 have strong

00:27:54.860 families, if

00:27:55.840 you don't

00:27:56.220 have a decent

00:27:56.800 education system,

00:27:58.080 if you don't

00:27:58.700 have a sound

00:27:59.220 economy, you're

00:28:00.340 just, which

00:28:01.600 the economy is

00:28:03.120 both a fiscal

00:28:04.060 matter, but

00:28:04.480 obviously a

00:28:04.980 social matter

00:28:05.480 too.

00:28:05.700 We're talking

00:28:05.900 about people

00:28:06.380 working and

00:28:07.000 producing and

00:28:07.940 buying things.

00:28:08.900 If you don't

00:28:09.620 have that all

00:28:10.300 squared away,

00:28:11.580 you're not

00:28:12.000 going to balance

00:28:13.680 the ledger.

00:28:15.480 You're not going

00:28:15.880 to fix the debt.

00:28:16.940 It's just simply

00:28:17.900 not going to

00:28:19.460 happen.

00:28:20.540 Okay, so I

00:28:22.420 sympathize with

00:28:23.320 people who look at

00:28:23.820 the federal budget.

00:28:24.460 They say there's

00:28:24.760 only really one

00:28:25.420 way to make a

00:28:26.200 dent into the

00:28:26.680 federal budget.

00:28:27.280 right, but the

00:28:28.700 only way to

00:28:29.280 even start to

00:28:30.280 do that is to

00:28:32.000 fix the social

00:28:32.960 problems.

00:28:33.400 You have to make

00:28:35.060 America great

00:28:35.700 again before you

00:28:37.500 can fix the

00:28:38.340 debt.

00:28:38.860 Between those

00:28:39.460 two slogans, we

00:28:41.360 tried it.

00:28:41.980 I'm not even

00:28:43.180 just surmising

00:28:45.420 here what might

00:28:46.380 possibly work

00:28:47.140 hypothetically.

00:28:48.200 We tried it.

00:28:49.620 We did the

00:28:50.420 tea party.

00:28:51.280 It didn't work.

00:28:52.920 It's not that we

00:28:53.800 gave up the social

00:28:54.560 issues and we won

00:28:55.420 on the fiscal

00:28:55.820 issues.

00:28:56.180 We just lost

00:28:56.780 everything.

00:28:58.040 And then we

00:28:59.140 decided we're

00:29:00.620 going to start

00:29:00.920 running a little

00:29:01.320 bit more on the

00:29:01.880 social issues, on

00:29:02.960 the border, on

00:29:04.220 not castrating our

00:29:06.320 children, on

00:29:07.340 strong American

00:29:08.020 families, on

00:29:08.780 American national

00:29:09.540 identity, and we

00:29:10.520 started to win a

00:29:11.440 little bit more.

00:29:11.920 We started to put

00:29:12.460 together a more

00:29:13.340 coherent political

00:29:14.160 coalition rather

00:29:15.800 than trying to

00:29:16.500 advocate some

00:29:17.840 abstract form of

00:29:19.180 libertarian

00:29:19.680 economics that

00:29:20.380 appeals precisely to

00:29:21.600 no one other

00:29:22.660 than the donor

00:29:23.580 class, which

00:29:24.400 unfortunately, no

00:29:25.700 matter how much

00:29:26.140 money they pour

00:29:26.600 into the

00:29:26.860 campaigns.

00:29:27.740 Those campaigns

00:29:28.200 are not going

00:29:28.820 to appeal to

00:29:29.760 most Americans.

00:29:31.040 Now, speaking

00:29:32.640 of the left's

00:29:33.180 campaign strategy,

00:29:34.980 it has now come

00:29:35.700 out, Joe Biden

00:29:37.380 had a strategy for

00:29:39.360 the State of the

00:29:39.940 Union, and it's a

00:29:40.840 strategy for his

00:29:41.740 broader 2024

00:29:42.540 campaign, and that

00:29:43.720 is to find social

00:29:46.640 media influencers to

00:29:49.360 show up, go to a

00:29:50.480 private screening of

00:29:51.960 the State of the

00:29:52.440 Union, and then

00:29:54.120 tweet, and Insta, and

00:29:56.120 TikTok about it.

00:29:56.900 Here are some

00:29:57.220 influencers talking

00:29:57.880 about it.

00:29:58.960 Joe Biden invited

00:30:00.080 70 influencers to

00:30:02.000 view his State of the

00:30:02.960 Union address in

00:30:03.660 order to-

00:30:04.160 I was one of the

00:30:04.740 70 influencers that

00:30:05.640 was invited, so let me

00:30:06.540 spill all the tea with

00:30:07.260 you.

00:30:07.900 So, I got this

00:30:09.500 message, I want to

00:30:10.580 say, on Monday

00:30:11.280 night.

00:30:11.840 So, I got an email

00:30:12.620 from an agency, and I

00:30:14.280 saw the people that

00:30:14.840 were CC'd on, and I

00:30:15.620 didn't recognize any of

00:30:16.540 the other email

00:30:17.040 addresses that were

00:30:17.780 CC'd on to this

00:30:18.600 invite.

00:30:19.520 So, essentially, they

00:30:20.320 were like, we'd love

00:30:20.780 to have you at this

00:30:21.340 watch party, but

00:30:22.780 they just said it

00:30:23.260 was like a watch

00:30:23.820 party for the State

00:30:24.860 of Union address,

00:30:26.720 blah, blah, blah,

00:30:26.960 whatever it's

00:30:27.320 called.

00:30:27.880 24 hours before the

00:30:30.020 State of the Union

00:30:30.520 address is when

00:30:31.940 Biden, which is what

00:30:33.100 this original creator

00:30:33.880 was talking about,

00:30:34.440 was when Biden was

00:30:35.180 like, yo, if TikTok

00:30:36.220 is going to get

00:30:36.880 banned, I would

00:30:37.420 totally sign on

00:30:38.100 that.

00:30:38.960 Hard stop, right?

00:30:39.760 I was like, oh, no,

00:30:40.940 absolutely not.

00:30:41.620 After Biden has used

00:30:43.300 TikTok to campaign

00:30:44.820 certain things

00:30:45.400 recently anyway, so

00:30:46.200 I was like, you're

00:30:46.800 full of crap.

00:30:48.440 So, I don't go,

00:30:49.520 right?

00:30:49.780 And I just kind of

00:30:50.620 leave it unread.

00:30:51.760 And then right at

00:30:52.340 that time, too, the

00:30:53.120 agency was like, here's

00:30:54.180 all the concept

00:30:54.960 briefs of your

00:30:55.720 posting.

00:30:56.240 And so that's

00:30:56.580 something that we

00:30:57.060 do as influencers

00:30:57.740 when we have

00:30:58.360 brand deals and we

00:30:59.060 have sponsorships.

00:30:59.840 We have these

00:31:00.200 things called

00:31:00.580 concept briefs.

00:31:01.640 And it's all

00:31:02.260 these approved

00:31:02.660 talking points that

00:31:03.420 we can make

00:31:03.840 videos about

00:31:04.380 afterwards.

00:31:05.380 I didn't know

00:31:05.940 that posting was

00:31:06.860 like asked.

00:31:08.120 It wasn't asked

00:31:08.760 in the original

00:31:09.160 invite.

00:31:10.220 Felt really gross

00:31:11.020 about it.

00:31:11.640 Felt really gross

00:31:12.480 about it, but,

00:31:13.360 you know, the

00:31:14.340 Biden campaign is

00:31:15.080 trying to hire

00:31:15.480 the influencers.

00:31:16.140 Okay, I think

00:31:16.780 this is probably a

00:31:17.580 good idea.

00:31:18.060 I was not

00:31:20.720 asked to do it.

00:31:21.260 I was at the

00:31:21.960 State of the

00:31:22.300 Union, as I may

00:31:23.480 have mentioned on

00:31:24.180 this show, and I

00:31:25.140 don't know, I didn't

00:31:25.540 get paid by any

00:31:26.360 political parties to

00:31:27.860 influence about it.

00:31:29.380 The Republicans don't

00:31:30.400 really focus on this,

00:31:32.120 the influencers.

00:31:33.480 The Democrats do,

00:31:34.380 because they tend to

00:31:34.940 be a little more

00:31:35.440 avant-garde in the

00:31:36.200 culture, and so

00:31:36.780 what are they

00:31:37.100 seeing?

00:31:37.660 They're seeing

00:31:38.180 that influencers

00:31:39.640 are the new

00:31:40.980 movie stars, and

00:31:43.600 the new news

00:31:44.320 anchors.

00:31:45.560 They're actually

00:31:46.440 both of them,

00:31:47.620 because your

00:31:48.940 eyeballs are much

00:31:50.200 more likely to be

00:31:50.860 on your phone now

00:31:51.520 than they are to

00:31:52.000 be on your TV or

00:31:52.840 certainly on your

00:31:53.500 movie screen.

00:31:55.180 So if you want

00:31:57.000 to use cultural

00:31:58.560 figures to push

00:31:59.900 your political

00:32:00.380 agenda, you

00:32:02.260 know, maybe you

00:32:02.720 go to Brad Pitt,

00:32:03.460 maybe, sure, like

00:32:05.220 movies are still

00:32:06.460 sort of a thing.

00:32:09.220 Maybe you go to

00:32:10.120 George Stephanopoulos,

00:32:11.260 I mean, that's why,

00:32:12.000 you know, the

00:32:12.860 Democrats installed

00:32:13.640 him there in the

00:32:14.560 network news after he

00:32:15.520 left the Clinton

00:32:15.940 White House, but

00:32:17.240 more consistently,

00:32:20.340 you're going to go

00:32:21.340 to the social media

00:32:22.640 influencers, those

00:32:23.540 are the people to

00:32:24.400 talk to.

00:32:25.060 This helps to

00:32:26.240 explain why the

00:32:26.940 Oscar ratings this

00:32:27.800 year were terrible.

00:32:29.440 If you read any

00:32:30.420 headlines about it,

00:32:31.260 you'll see the

00:32:31.760 headlines saying the

00:32:32.320 Oscar ratings this

00:32:33.020 year were pretty

00:32:33.440 pretty good.

00:32:34.060 They weren't

00:32:34.480 pretty good.

00:32:36.080 The Oscar ratings

00:32:37.040 this year were the

00:32:37.940 fourth lowest ratings

00:32:39.100 ever in Oscars

00:32:40.460 history.

00:32:41.220 They only had 19.5

00:32:42.820 million viewers.

00:32:44.700 So it's a four-year

00:32:45.840 high.

00:32:46.480 It's a 4% increase

00:32:48.000 compared to last

00:32:49.580 year.

00:32:49.860 Last year it was

00:32:50.380 18.8 million.

00:32:52.480 But think about what

00:32:53.380 it was 10 years ago.

00:32:54.380 10 years ago, the

00:32:55.180 Oscars drew 43.7

00:32:58.040 million viewers,

00:32:59.260 more than double the

00:33:00.400 number of viewers that

00:33:01.260 they drew this week.

00:33:03.520 Five years ago, 30

00:33:05.300 million people tuned

00:33:06.640 in.

00:33:08.180 That's not even 10

00:33:09.520 years ago.

00:33:09.880 That's five years ago.

00:33:11.360 The numbers are

00:33:12.220 plummeting.

00:33:12.640 There's maybe a little

00:33:13.620 tick up this year over

00:33:14.900 that year, but generally

00:33:15.760 the numbers are just

00:33:17.060 plummeting.

00:33:17.600 Why is that?

00:33:19.100 People will say it's not

00:33:20.080 because the movies are

00:33:21.120 losing their prestige.

00:33:22.740 It's because people are

00:33:24.200 cutting the cable.

00:33:25.640 They're not, they're

00:33:26.480 consuming media in other

00:33:27.400 ways.

00:33:27.900 Yeah, but that's all,

00:33:28.660 that's all to say the

00:33:29.400 same thing.

00:33:30.040 Right.

00:33:30.900 You're right.

00:33:31.200 People are not watching

00:33:32.380 TV as much anymore.

00:33:33.560 So the TV stars are losing

00:33:35.140 their influence.

00:33:37.220 People, people are also

00:33:38.560 not watching the movies as

00:33:39.560 much anymore.

00:33:40.580 So the movie stars are

00:33:41.360 losing their influence and

00:33:42.200 it's going elsewhere.

00:33:43.400 Where is it going?

00:33:44.340 It's going to the

00:33:46.080 influencers.

00:33:46.840 What a job.

00:33:47.620 What a job.

00:33:48.100 I guess, am I sort, I'm

00:33:49.120 sort of an influencer,

00:33:50.200 aren't I?

00:33:51.680 I'm not like hot enough

00:33:53.200 and I don't understand

00:33:54.120 TikTok enough to really be

00:33:55.400 an influencer.

00:33:56.560 You know, I got to be

00:33:57.280 like a, got to be like a

00:33:59.160 hot 22 year old like

00:34:00.800 workout chick or

00:34:01.660 something.

00:34:01.940 That's how I could really

00:34:02.680 maximize my influencing

00:34:04.480 abilities.

00:34:06.060 And then the Democrats

00:34:07.020 would pay me a lot of

00:34:07.780 money and they would be

00:34:08.620 smart to do it.

00:34:10.360 That is where the

00:34:11.200 eyeballs are going.

00:34:12.380 Joe Biden obviously

00:34:12.980 doesn't know anything

00:34:13.540 about this, but the

00:34:14.480 Democrats are pretty

00:34:15.280 wise.

00:34:16.840 They're pretty wise.

00:34:17.620 They always know how

00:34:20.100 to push the levers of

00:34:21.420 pop culture and

00:34:23.380 movies are not where

00:34:24.360 the culture is made

00:34:25.140 today.

00:34:26.160 And TV is not where

00:34:27.300 the culture is made.

00:34:27.980 The culture is made

00:34:29.040 for better or worse

00:34:30.420 on TikTok.

00:34:31.400 Now we do have one

00:34:32.340 influencer in the

00:34:33.540 Republican Party.

00:34:35.040 This was a weird one.

00:34:37.460 This came out

00:34:38.420 yesterday.

00:34:39.720 The governor of

00:34:40.980 South Dakota,

00:34:42.460 Kristi Noem,

00:34:43.180 posted a TikTok

00:34:45.540 style influencer

00:34:48.440 product review

00:34:50.460 to her social

00:34:53.080 media.

00:34:53.860 I'm not going to do

00:34:54.820 it justice.

00:34:55.360 Take a listen.

00:34:56.720 Well, hi, I'm

00:34:57.480 Kristi Noem.

00:34:58.400 I'm the governor of

00:34:59.120 South Dakota and had

00:35:00.260 the opportunity to come

00:35:01.120 to Smile Texas to fix

00:35:02.960 my teeth, which has been

00:35:04.640 absolutely amazing.

00:35:05.820 For years, I have

00:35:07.780 needed to have an

00:35:09.180 adjustment to my teeth

00:35:10.180 from a biking accident.

00:35:11.300 And they have been

00:35:12.320 absolutely phenomenal.

00:35:14.100 Years ago, I was out

00:35:16.180 bike riding with all of

00:35:17.040 my kids when they were

00:35:17.940 little and had a biking

00:35:19.860 accident and knocked out

00:35:21.140 all of my front teeth.

00:35:22.500 And so several years ago,

00:35:23.760 I did a consultation here

00:35:25.480 at Smile Texas and did it

00:35:27.200 by Zoom, but could never

00:35:28.860 quite find the time.

00:35:30.080 And recently, got the

00:35:31.880 chance to work with

00:35:32.640 Dr. Davis.

00:35:33.840 Dr. Dooley's always been

00:35:35.100 fantastic to me too, but

00:35:36.220 the team here was

00:35:37.600 remarkable and finally gave

00:35:39.140 me a smile that I can be

00:35:41.120 proud of and confident

00:35:42.260 in.

00:35:42.820 And that really is a gift

00:35:44.160 that I think is going to

00:35:45.040 be incredibly special to

00:35:46.000 have.

00:35:46.720 You know, I think that I

00:35:47.780 chose the team here at

00:35:49.260 Smile Texas because

00:35:50.800 they're the best.

00:35:53.780 What?

00:35:55.360 You know, I

00:35:56.600 I hate to admit

00:35:58.880 this, but I

00:36:00.800 I'm just kind of stumped

00:36:03.020 by this one.

00:36:04.080 I know

00:36:04.320 it's my job to

00:36:06.940 whenever I see something

00:36:07.780 in politics, I

00:36:08.740 I have to have a really

00:36:10.000 pithy take on it, you

00:36:11.280 know, and I

00:36:11.700 I have to relate it to

00:36:13.640 some other thing in

00:36:14.420 politics, explain the

00:36:15.700 motivations behind what

00:36:17.460 these people are doing,

00:36:18.380 maybe relate it to

00:36:19.180 philosophy or something.

00:36:21.200 I have no idea what this

00:36:23.140 is.

00:36:23.220 This is the weirdest

00:36:24.120 thing maybe I have ever

00:36:26.920 seen in politics.

00:36:28.780 A sitting governor

00:36:30.340 doing an infomercial with

00:36:33.560 like cheesy

00:36:34.400 elevator music

00:36:36.760 underneath it

00:36:37.700 for a

00:36:38.500 for a dentist

00:36:39.780 in Texas

00:36:40.660 in a different state.

00:36:41.840 In fact, a state

00:36:43.160 very far away from the

00:36:44.320 state

00:36:44.600 in which she is

00:36:46.160 governor.

00:36:46.740 I

00:36:46.760 I

00:36:48.760 I

00:36:49.540 I got nothing.

00:36:50.740 I got I'm sorry.

00:36:51.700 I just had to show you

00:36:52.520 that, but I have nothing

00:36:53.440 really to add.

00:36:55.080 That's just really,

00:36:56.540 really weird behavior

00:36:58.180 from the governor

00:36:59.300 of South Dakota.

00:37:00.660 Now,

00:37:01.320 speaking of commercials,

00:37:02.480 this is a sale you

00:37:04.260 cannot miss out on.

00:37:06.360 Jeremy's Dentistry.

00:37:07.340 No, I'm joking.

00:37:07.880 It's Jeremy's Razors.

00:37:08.960 Soon, Jeremy's Dentistry

00:37:10.160 will take over.

00:37:11.240 Jeremy's Razors is

00:37:11.960 lowering all prices

00:37:12.660 for every razor.

00:37:13.720 You want a trial set?

00:37:14.620 Lower the price.

00:37:15.940 How about that?

00:37:16.900 You want the starter set

00:37:18.120 that comes with

00:37:18.960 more cartridges?

00:37:20.480 Well, there's a lower

00:37:21.000 price.

00:37:22.140 Smooth 6,

00:37:23.180 Precision 5.

00:37:24.040 You guessed it.

00:37:25.440 There's a lower price.

00:37:27.080 Take advantage of

00:37:27.780 Jeremy's March of

00:37:28.780 Man-ness

00:37:29.840 now.

00:37:31.280 Go to

00:37:31.520 Jeremy's Razors.com

00:37:32.640 to get your razor

00:37:34.780 at a discount

00:37:35.800 right now.

00:37:38.200 My favorite comment

00:37:39.080 yesterday is from

00:37:39.600 68Hoodoo

00:37:41.280 who says,

00:37:42.780 I am excited

00:37:43.400 to see you

00:37:44.000 in Madison

00:37:44.540 tomorrow night.

00:37:45.360 So excited.

00:37:46.240 I'm excited to see you.

00:37:48.020 I can't wait.

00:37:48.580 I don't know if any tickets

00:37:49.440 are still available.

00:37:50.460 One thing that sometimes

00:37:51.360 happens

00:37:51.760 is that the libs,

00:37:53.780 and we were already

00:37:54.560 threatened with a lot

00:37:55.120 of protests

00:37:55.680 from

00:37:56.620 ordinary

00:37:58.760 sort of

00:37:59.480 students

00:38:00.000 and also

00:38:00.700 from the

00:38:01.040 administration

00:38:01.600 at UW-Madison.

00:38:03.060 Sometimes what

00:38:03.640 they'll do

00:38:03.920 is they'll go in

00:38:04.420 and reserve tickets

00:38:05.480 with either

00:38:06.700 no intention

00:38:07.260 of going

00:38:07.680 or with the

00:38:08.080 intention of

00:38:08.480 going

00:38:08.720 and then

00:38:09.000 just leaving

00:38:09.560 abruptly

00:38:10.000 and disrupting

00:38:10.920 the event.

00:38:11.900 So we try

00:38:12.520 to have a

00:38:12.840 standby line

00:38:13.540 if tickets

00:38:14.140 are sold out.

00:38:15.260 I would

00:38:15.700 encourage you

00:38:16.280 to try

00:38:17.760 to show up

00:38:18.080 anyway.

00:38:18.560 I have no

00:38:19.020 guarantee

00:38:19.360 that you can

00:38:19.840 get in,

00:38:20.560 but it'd be

00:38:22.400 good.

00:38:23.860 You'd at least

00:38:24.480 have a shot

00:38:24.900 if you can

00:38:25.300 do that.

00:38:25.920 So we'll

00:38:26.140 see you

00:38:26.540 tonight

00:38:26.980 in

00:38:27.840 Madison.

00:38:32.080 As I

00:38:32.720 was doing

00:38:33.400 that last

00:38:34.580 commercial,

00:38:35.360 I was

00:38:35.920 formulating

00:38:36.760 some thoughts

00:38:37.700 of what

00:38:38.660 Christy Noem

00:38:39.260 is doing

00:38:39.720 when she

00:38:40.040 does her

00:38:40.360 dentistry

00:38:40.740 commercial.

00:38:41.280 And the

00:38:42.560 only two

00:38:43.020 I can

00:38:43.300 come up

00:38:43.620 with are

00:38:44.000 Christy

00:38:45.200 Noem

00:38:45.620 wants to

00:38:47.200 fix her

00:38:47.580 teeth

00:38:47.880 and needs

00:38:48.920 some

00:38:49.280 political

00:38:49.820 excuse

00:38:50.580 to do

00:38:51.040 it,

00:38:51.220 some

00:38:51.360 explanation

00:38:51.900 as to

00:38:52.420 why she

00:38:52.820 looks

00:38:53.020 different

00:38:53.320 now.

00:38:54.040 And so

00:38:54.500 she went

00:38:54.840 out and

00:38:55.120 did this

00:38:55.400 whole big

00:38:55.780 display and

00:38:56.760 she wants

00:38:57.020 to fix

00:38:57.300 her teeth

00:38:57.620 because she

00:38:57.880 wants to

00:38:58.140 be vice

00:38:58.480 president or

00:38:59.140 something like

00:38:59.640 that.

00:39:00.280 That's one

00:39:01.020 explanation.

00:39:02.540 It's a little

00:39:03.520 far-fetched,

00:39:04.740 but I could

00:39:05.280 sort of see

00:39:05.960 it.

00:39:07.160 You know,

00:39:07.500 okay,

00:39:07.820 if she's

00:39:08.920 going to

00:39:09.200 change her

00:39:09.620 appearance in

00:39:10.240 order to

00:39:10.620 get a

00:39:10.880 bigger political

00:39:11.460 job,

00:39:11.900 she's going

00:39:12.260 to take

00:39:13.040 the voters

00:39:13.540 along with

00:39:14.280 it,

00:39:14.480 so it

00:39:14.680 doesn't

00:39:14.920 seem

00:39:15.160 quite so

00:39:15.840 obvious.

00:39:17.260 Maybe,

00:39:18.440 maybe.

00:39:19.040 The only

00:39:19.480 other one

00:39:19.980 I can

00:39:20.380 figure out

00:39:20.860 is that

00:39:22.360 Christy

00:39:22.740 Noem is

00:39:23.820 looking at

00:39:24.340 the end

00:39:24.760 of her

00:39:25.340 term as

00:39:26.500 the governor

00:39:26.840 of South

00:39:27.160 Dakota,

00:39:27.520 and she

00:39:27.740 says,

00:39:28.000 all right,

00:39:28.240 well,

00:39:29.460 I guess I'm

00:39:30.200 going to be

00:39:30.380 an influencer.

00:39:32.200 That's the only

00:39:33.440 thing for any

00:39:33.920 of us to do

00:39:34.300 in politics

00:39:34.780 anymore,

00:39:35.380 so I'm

00:39:36.140 going to

00:39:36.520 do my

00:39:38.860 audition for

00:39:39.900 being an

00:39:40.260 influencer,

00:39:40.680 and I'm not

00:39:41.260 going to get

00:39:41.520 the really

00:39:41.920 high-level

00:39:42.720 products yet.

00:39:45.380 I'm not going

00:39:45.840 to be shilling

00:39:46.400 gold or

00:39:47.000 something like

00:39:47.400 that,

00:39:47.680 but Texas

00:39:49.060 Dentistry,

00:39:49.860 that's going to

00:39:50.480 be my first

00:39:51.120 stop,

00:39:51.540 and then

00:39:52.620 pretty soon

00:39:53.160 I'm going

00:39:53.420 to move

00:39:53.940 on from

00:39:54.300 that to

00:39:54.960 hawking

00:39:55.820 all sorts

00:39:56.200 of products.

00:39:56.740 Maybe,

00:39:57.160 maybe,

00:39:57.600 I don't,

00:39:58.020 again,

00:39:58.200 that's it,

00:39:58.580 that's all

00:39:58.840 I know.

00:39:59.900 Now,

00:40:00.080 speaking of

00:40:00.520 these social

00:40:00.920 media platforms

00:40:01.600 and these

00:40:02.060 influencers,

00:40:02.760 there's a

00:40:03.180 bill out

00:40:04.300 to potentially

00:40:05.660 ban

00:40:06.280 TikTok,

00:40:07.500 and the

00:40:09.120 bill is

00:40:09.580 being pushed

00:40:10.280 by House

00:40:10.940 Republicans,

00:40:11.740 and it's

00:40:12.180 also being

00:40:12.600 opposed by

00:40:13.200 House

00:40:13.400 Republicans.

00:40:14.100 You know

00:40:14.560 that the

00:40:14.840 GOP can

00:40:15.320 never agree

00:40:15.720 on anything.

00:40:17.020 We don't

00:40:17.540 need Democrats.

00:40:18.480 We can just

00:40:18.920 fight each

00:40:19.320 other.

00:40:19.500 We will

00:40:20.040 have plenty

00:40:20.440 of fun

00:40:20.860 fighting each

00:40:21.380 other forever

00:40:22.000 while the

00:40:22.920 Democrats are

00:40:23.480 united and

00:40:24.300 winning the

00:40:24.960 culture.

00:40:26.480 This TikTok

00:40:27.540 ban,

00:40:28.320 according to

00:40:29.060 Thomas Massey,

00:40:30.060 who's quite

00:40:30.880 right-wing,

00:40:31.540 I have a lot

00:40:32.000 of respect

00:40:32.240 for the guy,

00:40:33.060 he says the

00:40:33.700 TikTok ban

00:40:34.180 is a Trojan

00:40:34.720 horse,

00:40:35.580 that the

00:40:35.880 president will

00:40:36.700 be given

00:40:36.960 the power

00:40:37.320 to ban

00:40:37.800 websites,

00:40:38.540 not just

00:40:38.900 apps like

00:40:39.500 TikTok,

00:40:40.520 and a

00:40:41.960 person breaking

00:40:42.780 the new

00:40:43.140 law is

00:40:44.040 deemed to

00:40:44.620 be the

00:40:46.280 U.S.

00:40:46.980 or offshore

00:40:47.500 internet hosting

00:40:48.600 service,

00:40:49.500 or app

00:40:50.160 store.

00:40:50.380 So it's

00:40:50.560 not just

00:40:51.080 about focusing

00:40:52.640 on foreign

00:40:53.320 adversaries.

00:40:54.620 I've got the

00:40:55.180 language of the

00:40:55.740 bill right here,

00:40:56.240 even the

00:40:56.580 language that

00:40:57.360 Congressman Massey

00:40:58.420 tweeted about.

00:41:00.620 It's not just

00:41:01.460 about stopping

00:41:02.100 red China from

00:41:03.400 poisoning our

00:41:04.440 kids' brains

00:41:05.140 with TikTok.

00:41:06.180 It's really about

00:41:07.100 controlling the

00:41:07.920 internet, and

00:41:08.460 that's what the

00:41:08.820 libs are after.

00:41:09.480 So I don't

00:41:10.020 know, I've got

00:41:10.540 the portions of

00:41:11.960 the bill that

00:41:12.520 Massey has

00:41:13.040 focused on.

00:41:13.940 It says foreign

00:41:14.360 adversary controlled

00:41:15.080 application.

00:41:15.880 The term foreign

00:41:16.700 adversary controlled

00:41:17.360 application means a

00:41:18.100 website, desktop

00:41:19.100 application, mobile

00:41:19.840 app, or augmented

00:41:20.940 or immersive

00:41:21.340 tech.

00:41:22.200 And here,

00:41:23.020 Congressman Massey

00:41:23.680 highlights a

00:41:24.200 website.

00:41:24.940 But to me, this

00:41:25.480 seems kind of

00:41:26.040 obvious.

00:41:26.640 I mean, when I

00:41:27.980 use Twitter, now

00:41:29.180 X, I mostly, I

00:41:31.180 think, use it on

00:41:31.900 the website.

00:41:32.820 Just have a tab

00:41:33.460 open on the

00:41:33.960 website.

00:41:34.580 You can use

00:41:35.020 Instagram on a

00:41:35.740 website.

00:41:36.460 I don't know if

00:41:36.860 you can use

00:41:37.180 TikTok on a

00:41:37.860 website.

00:41:38.060 I sort of

00:41:38.500 avoid TikTok.

00:41:39.740 But, you

00:41:40.840 know, of

00:41:41.420 course, if

00:41:41.900 you're going to

00:41:42.240 use these

00:41:43.320 services, they

00:41:44.160 also have a

00:41:44.620 website component.

00:41:45.280 So if you

00:41:45.460 don't block the

00:41:45.920 website component,

00:41:46.720 you're not

00:41:47.080 effectively blocking

00:41:47.940 the service.

00:41:49.360 So that

00:41:49.560 doesn't do

00:41:49.940 a lot.

00:41:51.320 It doesn't

00:41:51.900 really convince

00:41:52.540 me very much.

00:41:54.160 And then they

00:41:54.960 say it's a

00:41:55.260 prohibition of

00:41:55.960 foreign

00:41:56.280 adversary

00:41:56.840 controlled

00:41:57.500 applications that

00:42:00.620 include things

00:42:03.860 like providing

00:42:04.620 services to

00:42:05.380 distribute,

00:42:06.060 maintain, or

00:42:06.620 update such

00:42:07.400 foreign

00:42:07.760 adversary

00:42:08.280 controlled

00:42:08.840 applications,

00:42:10.280 providing

00:42:10.840 internet hosting

00:42:11.800 services to

00:42:12.980 enable the

00:42:14.140 distribution,

00:42:14.820 maintenance, or

00:42:15.260 updating of

00:42:15.660 these services.

00:42:16.220 So it's

00:42:16.520 basically saying

00:42:17.060 if the

00:42:19.100 government can

00:42:19.860 effectively go

00:42:20.520 after the

00:42:20.860 applications,

00:42:21.500 they can go

00:42:21.960 after the

00:42:22.840 ISPs or

00:42:24.520 whatever services

00:42:25.540 are even

00:42:26.140 hosting those

00:42:26.800 applications.

00:42:27.500 I don't really

00:42:27.960 see a problem

00:42:28.320 with that

00:42:28.600 either in

00:42:29.980 principle.

00:42:30.820 I agree with

00:42:31.960 Congressman

00:42:32.460 Massey that

00:42:33.040 laws can

00:42:33.500 always be

00:42:34.580 abused, and

00:42:35.240 so maybe you've

00:42:36.120 got to be

00:42:36.380 really specific

00:42:37.360 about the

00:42:37.740 language of

00:42:38.180 the laws.

00:42:38.820 But I

00:42:39.100 don't really

00:42:40.920 think this

00:42:41.460 bill is doing

00:42:42.200 what he's

00:42:42.640 worried that it

00:42:43.220 does.

00:42:44.020 And especially

00:42:44.400 when I learn

00:42:45.760 that it is

00:42:46.220 conservative

00:42:47.280 Republicans in

00:42:48.580 the House who

00:42:49.100 are pushing

00:42:49.400 this bill, it's

00:42:50.320 not just the

00:42:50.860 Democrats pushing

00:42:51.580 it or something

00:42:51.940 like that, I'm

00:42:52.920 a little skeptical.

00:42:54.040 So what is this

00:42:54.560 all coming down

00:42:55.180 to?

00:42:56.220 To me, what a

00:42:57.060 bill like this

00:42:57.880 comes down to,

00:43:00.020 what it shows

00:43:01.160 is the

00:43:01.900 distinction between

00:43:03.080 the libertarians

00:43:03.800 and the

00:43:04.220 nationalists.

00:43:05.340 The libertarians

00:43:06.100 are saying, get

00:43:06.600 your hands off

00:43:07.080 my internet.

00:43:07.640 I don't want

00:43:08.080 the government

00:43:08.460 regulating

00:43:09.020 anything.

00:43:10.080 Even TikTok

00:43:10.660 might be bad,

00:43:11.600 but I don't

00:43:11.880 want the

00:43:12.140 government's

00:43:12.520 hands in it

00:43:13.020 because the

00:43:13.560 government's

00:43:13.980 going to get

00:43:14.320 a little

00:43:14.520 grab-happy

00:43:15.060 and they're

00:43:15.360 going to

00:43:15.520 take other

00:43:15.880 things that

00:43:16.240 I like.

00:43:17.280 The

00:43:17.520 nationalists

00:43:18.200 are saying,

00:43:19.840 hey, libertarians,

00:43:20.740 shut up.

00:43:21.380 You're telling

00:43:21.860 me that we

00:43:22.340 can't even

00:43:22.720 stop a

00:43:23.200 foreign

00:43:23.420 adversary

00:43:23.920 from pushing

00:43:25.120 their propaganda

00:43:25.860 and their

00:43:26.680 addictive

00:43:27.040 technology to

00:43:28.180 melt the

00:43:28.680 brains of

00:43:29.420 not only

00:43:29.860 Americans, but

00:43:30.500 America's

00:43:31.020 youth?

00:43:31.560 You're telling

00:43:32.020 me we are

00:43:32.780 powerless?

00:43:33.720 We have no

00:43:34.520 right whatsoever

00:43:35.240 as Americans

00:43:35.940 to stop

00:43:36.580 China from

00:43:37.400 an obvious

00:43:38.660 psychological

00:43:39.160 operation to

00:43:40.460 brainwash our

00:43:41.100 kids?

00:43:41.540 What are you

00:43:41.980 talking about?

00:43:42.600 And it's

00:43:43.460 just going to

00:43:43.840 be those

00:43:44.140 two groups

00:43:44.600 pitted against

00:43:45.120 each other

00:43:45.500 here.

00:43:46.760 That's the

00:43:47.360 real debate

00:43:48.280 over the

00:43:48.940 TikTok ban.

00:43:50.580 The

00:43:50.780 libertarians

00:43:51.460 versus the

00:43:52.080 nationalists.

00:43:53.880 Which side

00:43:54.960 are you on?

00:43:56.060 You might say,

00:43:56.720 I'm neither a

00:43:57.200 libertarian nor a

00:43:57.840 nationalist.

00:43:58.260 Okay, well,

00:43:58.900 you're picking a

00:43:59.760 side here on

00:44:00.220 this battle at

00:44:00.880 least.

00:44:01.820 What is it?

00:44:02.280 And for me,

00:44:03.940 I'm not exactly

00:44:04.720 a libertarian,

00:44:06.140 and I

00:44:08.080 support the

00:44:09.180 American nation

00:44:10.040 and I think we

00:44:10.660 need stronger

00:44:11.140 borders and I

00:44:11.840 think we need

00:44:12.880 to assert our

00:44:13.700 political rights

00:44:14.620 a little more.

00:44:15.400 Not just our

00:44:15.880 individual rights,

00:44:16.500 which are

00:44:16.700 important, but

00:44:17.460 our political

00:44:18.080 rights as well

00:44:18.700 to have community

00:44:19.240 standards and to

00:44:20.280 have a flourishing

00:44:20.960 functioning society

00:44:21.840 because that's

00:44:23.160 how we're all

00:44:23.960 going to live

00:44:24.280 together.

00:44:24.760 That's ultimately

00:44:25.440 what our politics

00:44:26.280 kind of comes

00:44:26.820 down to is how

00:44:27.400 we all live

00:44:27.880 together in this

00:44:28.440 particular place.

00:44:29.640 So I'm,

00:44:31.500 at least from

00:44:32.160 what I've read

00:44:32.620 of the bill,

00:44:33.740 I'm for it.

00:44:34.720 TikTok is bad.

00:44:36.140 It's not good.

00:44:37.000 And by the way,

00:44:37.600 on top of that,

00:44:38.220 the Democrats are

00:44:38.860 using it to try

00:44:39.620 to influence the

00:44:41.520 2024 election.

00:44:42.720 So that's the

00:44:43.080 cherry on top of

00:44:43.820 why we might

00:44:44.600 consider banning

00:44:45.360 a psychological

00:44:46.280 operation by a

00:44:47.900 major foreign

00:44:48.760 adversary aimed

00:44:50.100 at our children.

00:44:51.660 But there's no

00:44:52.600 such thing as a

00:44:53.400 free lunch and

00:44:54.020 that will come

00:44:54.500 with some risk

00:44:56.520 to some of

00:45:00.380 our individual

00:45:01.080 liberties,

00:45:01.680 perhaps,

00:45:02.000 maybe,

00:45:02.920 maybe,

00:45:03.360 I don't know.

00:45:03.680 But allowing

00:45:04.640 this to continue

00:45:05.380 also is going

00:45:05.940 to risk our

00:45:06.300 individual liberties

00:45:06.920 because you're

00:45:07.220 brainwashing a

00:45:07.800 generation of

00:45:08.280 kids and you

00:45:08.980 forfeit your

00:45:09.480 liberty to

00:45:09.920 oppose our

00:45:10.360 biggest geopolitical

00:45:11.140 adversary.

00:45:12.060 So which is it?

00:45:13.540 No such thing

00:45:14.660 as a free lunch.

00:45:15.580 No such thing

00:45:16.260 as a simple,

00:45:17.220 you know,

00:45:17.840 five bullet point

00:45:18.600 political ideology

00:45:19.520 that's going to

00:45:20.220 encompass all of

00:45:21.440 politics.

00:45:22.280 Not going to

00:45:22.660 happen.

00:45:23.140 Now,

00:45:23.320 speaking of

00:45:23.740 nationalism,

00:45:25.180 President Biden

00:45:26.180 got in a lot

00:45:27.160 of trouble

00:45:27.500 recently because

00:45:28.560 he first refused

00:45:30.520 to name

00:45:31.360 Lakin Riley,

00:45:33.000 who is the

00:45:33.980 young girl,

00:45:35.400 Georgia student,

00:45:36.080 who was murdered

00:45:36.740 allegedly by an

00:45:37.760 illegal alien.

00:45:39.000 He didn't want

00:45:39.880 to mention her

00:45:40.340 during the State

00:45:40.760 of the Union.

00:45:41.640 The Republican

00:45:42.200 congressman,

00:45:43.100 notably my

00:45:43.980 congressman,

00:45:44.440 Andy Ogles,

00:45:45.160 and Marjorie

00:45:46.100 Taylor Greene,

00:45:47.080 browbeat him

00:45:47.700 into finally

00:45:48.220 saying her name.

00:45:49.200 And he tried

00:45:49.740 to,

00:45:50.000 but he didn't

00:45:50.580 get her name

00:45:50.980 right,

00:45:51.260 so he ended

00:45:51.720 up naming

00:45:52.140 the USC

00:45:52.740 football coach.

00:45:54.360 And he said

00:45:55.340 this student

00:45:56.260 was killed

00:45:57.320 by an illegal.

00:45:58.280 And then he

00:45:58.640 had to go

00:45:58.940 apologize and

00:46:00.220 say,

00:46:00.700 oh,

00:46:00.900 I shouldn't

00:46:01.340 have said

00:46:01.620 illegal.

00:46:02.940 He wasn't

00:46:03.280 going to

00:46:03.460 apologize for

00:46:04.240 not wanting

00:46:05.720 to mention

00:46:06.080 the girl's

00:46:06.440 name and

00:46:06.680 then getting

00:46:06.960 the name

00:46:07.280 wrong and

00:46:08.060 allowing this

00:46:08.780 to happen

00:46:09.060 in the first

00:46:09.460 place because

00:46:09.900 he's opened

00:46:10.420 up our

00:46:10.760 southern border

00:46:11.240 and encouraged

00:46:12.180 an invasion

00:46:12.760 of foreign

00:46:13.160 nationals.

00:46:13.820 No,

00:46:14.160 no,

00:46:14.300 no.

00:46:16.040 And discouraged

00:46:17.240 the arrest

00:46:17.760 of criminals.

00:46:18.540 This guy was

00:46:18.900 arrested three

00:46:19.480 times previously.

00:46:20.300 Had this alleged

00:46:21.640 murderer actually

00:46:23.080 been detained

00:46:23.640 and deported

00:46:24.160 on any of

00:46:25.140 those arrests,

00:46:26.060 that girl would

00:46:26.500 still be alive

00:46:27.040 today.

00:46:27.300 No,

00:46:27.800 no,

00:46:27.900 no.

00:46:28.020 He apologized

00:46:28.540 for calling

00:46:30.420 the illegal

00:46:31.060 alien murderer

00:46:31.840 allegedly an

00:46:33.440 illegal.

00:46:34.280 So Biden's

00:46:35.600 deputy White

00:46:37.080 House Press

00:46:37.420 Secretary,

00:46:37.780 Olivia Dalton,

00:46:38.340 was asked about

00:46:38.860 this.

00:46:39.080 She said,

00:46:39.720 I want to be

00:46:40.220 really clear

00:46:40.660 about something.

00:46:41.240 The president

00:46:41.560 absolutely did

00:46:42.500 not apologize.

00:46:43.300 There was no

00:46:43.720 apology anywhere

00:46:44.920 in that

00:46:45.800 conversation.

00:46:46.660 Roll the tape.

00:46:47.900 During your

00:46:48.600 response to her

00:46:49.500 heckling of you,

00:46:50.900 you used the

00:46:51.560 word illegal

00:46:52.420 when talking

00:46:53.420 about the man

00:46:54.380 who allegedly

00:46:54.860 killed

00:46:55.420 Lincoln Riley.

00:46:57.060 An undocumented

00:46:57.620 person.

00:46:58.960 And I shouldn't

00:46:59.460 have used the

00:46:59.860 legal.

00:47:00.260 It's undocumented.

00:47:01.540 And look,

00:47:02.560 when I spoke

00:47:03.280 about the

00:47:03.900 difference between

00:47:04.460 Trump and me,

00:47:05.100 one of the things

00:47:05.580 I talked about

00:47:06.100 on the border

00:47:06.540 was the way he

00:47:08.400 talks about

00:47:08.860 vermin, the way

00:47:09.560 he talks about

00:47:10.160 these people

00:47:10.680 polluting the

00:47:11.300 blood.

00:47:12.020 I talked about

00:47:12.520 what I'm not

00:47:13.080 going to do,

00:47:13.800 what I won't do.

00:47:14.780 I'm not going to

00:47:15.300 treat any of

00:47:17.200 these people with

00:47:17.920 disrespect.

00:47:19.200 Look, they built

00:47:19.780 the country,

00:47:20.800 the reason our

00:47:21.380 economy is growing.

00:47:23.460 Murderers built

00:47:23.960 the country,

00:47:24.460 right, okay.

00:47:25.920 Did that sound

00:47:26.540 like an apology

00:47:27.080 to you?

00:47:27.420 He said,

00:47:27.940 yeah, I

00:47:28.200 shouldn't have

00:47:28.480 said.

00:47:29.340 I shouldn't

00:47:29.660 have said

00:47:29.960 illegal.

00:47:30.700 It's undocumented.

00:47:31.660 I shouldn't

00:47:31.980 have said it.

00:47:34.700 Sounds like an

00:47:35.340 apology to me.

00:47:36.400 But I said,

00:47:36.700 maybe I'm wrong.

00:47:37.660 Maybe I don't

00:47:38.060 know what an

00:47:38.380 apology is.

00:47:38.840 I Googled.

00:47:39.280 I said,

00:47:39.400 what's an

00:47:39.640 apology?

00:47:40.520 Google definition

00:47:41.700 of apology.

00:47:42.960 Google says an

00:47:44.720 apology is a

00:47:45.600 regretful

00:47:46.260 acknowledgement of

00:47:47.380 an offense or

00:47:48.460 failure.

00:47:49.780 I shouldn't

00:47:50.380 have said it.

00:47:50.840 I shouldn't

00:47:51.120 have said it.

00:47:52.800 Undocumented,

00:47:53.520 not illegal.

00:47:54.820 I said,

00:47:55.160 big difference

00:47:55.620 between me and

00:47:56.080 Trump.

00:47:56.420 I don't want to

00:47:57.000 treat these

00:47:57.260 people with

00:47:57.600 disrespect.

00:47:58.140 I shouldn't

00:47:58.400 have said it.

00:48:00.700 Sounds to me

00:48:01.340 like the Google

00:48:01.880 definition of an

00:48:02.700 apology.

00:48:03.360 Then I said,

00:48:03.820 maybe Google's

00:48:04.360 wrong.

00:48:04.620 Google's wrong

00:48:04.960 about a lot

00:48:05.200 of things.

00:48:05.680 I look up the

00:48:06.120 internet

00:48:06.660 encyclopedia

00:48:07.340 philosophy.

00:48:08.500 An apology

00:48:08.920 is, quote,

00:48:09.740 the act of

00:48:10.260 declaring one's

00:48:10.920 regret,

00:48:11.960 remorse,

00:48:12.380 or sorrow for

00:48:12.900 having insulted,

00:48:13.640 failed,

00:48:14.260 injured,

00:48:14.580 harmed,

00:48:14.760 or wronged

00:48:15.120 another.

00:48:16.580 Seems to me,

00:48:17.300 Biden expresses

00:48:18.100 regret,

00:48:18.580 shouldn't have

00:48:19.040 said it.

00:48:20.500 For having

00:48:21.280 insulted,

00:48:22.200 I wouldn't

00:48:22.740 disrespect someone.

00:48:24.700 Even an illegal

00:48:25.680 alien murderer.

00:48:27.080 Obviously,

00:48:27.640 it's an apology,

00:48:28.360 but the libs do

00:48:28.800 this all the time.

00:48:29.700 It's an extreme

00:48:30.440 form of nominalism.

00:48:31.740 What do you mean

00:48:32.740 an apology?

00:48:33.040 What is an

00:48:33.480 apology anyway?

00:48:34.940 What is a man?

00:48:36.560 What is a woman?

00:48:37.700 What is a baby?

00:48:38.680 What is America?

00:48:39.600 What is a nation?

00:48:40.420 No,

00:48:40.940 what are you

00:48:41.340 talking about?

00:48:42.280 And they use

00:48:42.780 words like

00:48:43.240 Humpty Dumpty,

00:48:44.580 as I mention

00:48:45.120 in my book,

00:48:45.900 Speechless,

00:48:46.360 Controlling Words,

00:48:47.080 Controlling Minds.

00:48:47.980 You're going to see

00:48:48.760 an ever more

00:48:51.460 extreme form

00:48:52.320 of this

00:48:53.840 nominalism.

00:48:54.900 That is to say,

00:48:56.120 the words,

00:48:57.000 big categories,

00:48:58.780 things like

00:48:59.340 apology,

00:49:00.440 man,

00:49:00.900 woman,

00:49:01.160 they don't really

00:49:01.720 refer to anything.

00:49:03.020 All that matters

00:49:03.640 is the particular.

00:49:05.360 All that matters

00:49:06.300 is this particular

00:49:07.180 moment,

00:49:07.680 this particular

00:49:08.200 interest,

00:49:08.740 this particular

00:49:09.220 action,

00:49:09.760 this particular

00:49:10.160 thing that I

00:49:10.620 want to do

00:49:11.140 that is not

00:49:12.220 accountable

00:49:13.760 to principle

00:49:14.900 or scrutiny.

00:49:17.040 we will do

00:49:18.240 what we want,

00:49:19.420 we will say

00:49:20.340 what we want,

00:49:21.160 it will mean

00:49:21.700 exactly what we

00:49:22.520 want it to mean

00:49:23.120 and then the

00:49:23.460 moment that's

00:49:23.960 inconvenient,

00:49:24.560 we'll say it

00:49:24.920 means something

00:49:25.420 else and we'll

00:49:26.020 deny that we

00:49:26.620 did it

00:49:27.040 and these are

00:49:28.720 not the droids

00:49:29.260 you're looking

00:49:29.620 for.

00:49:30.200 That's the

00:49:30.840 kind of

00:49:31.280 bare-knuckle

00:49:31.940 irrational

00:49:32.500 politics that

00:49:33.700 you can look

00:49:34.140 forward to.

00:49:34.820 It's happening

00:49:35.400 already and it's

00:49:36.600 going to ramp up

00:49:37.380 as we approach

00:49:38.040 November.

00:49:39.380 There's no

00:49:39.940 member block

00:49:40.360 today,

00:49:40.640 I'm afraid to

00:49:41.140 say.

00:49:42.120 Even though I'm

00:49:42.760 asking you to

00:49:43.180 become a member

00:49:43.620 now using code

00:49:44.280 NOLS to check out

00:49:44.820 for two months

00:49:45.200 free in all

00:49:45.560 annual plans,

00:49:47.040 I have got to

00:49:47.780 hightail it

00:49:48.380 immediately to

00:49:49.660 the airplane so

00:49:50.760 that I can catch

00:49:51.240 my flight to

00:49:52.540 Wisconsin so I

00:49:53.460 can see you all

00:49:53.860 at Madison and

00:49:54.940 if I don't see

00:49:55.300 you at Madison,

00:49:55.740 I will see you

00:49:56.340 all.

00:49:56.680 You can watch

00:49:57.140 the speech at

00:49:57.700 the YAF YouTube

00:49:58.960 channel and then

00:50:00.060 if I don't see you

00:50:00.540 there, I will see

00:50:01.040 you tomorrow.

00:50:01.740 I'm Michael

00:50:02.080 Knowles.

00:50:02.540 This is the

00:50:02.740 Michael Knowles

00:50:03.060 Show.

00:50:17.040 Michael Knowles.

00:50:19.540 Thank you.

00:50:19.800 My own

00:50:20.100 .

00:50:23.080 Next is the

00:50:29.360 volcanali.

00:50:29.820 Hello.

The Michael Knowles Show - March 13, 2024

Ep. 1445 - Right-Winger Imprisoned For Memes In Group Chats

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