The Michael Knowles Show


Ep. 1466 - Libs Discover the Concept of Law


Summary

Abortion is illegal in the state of Arizona, which is great news. The only strange wrinkle in this pro-life ruling is that many Democrats are also thrilled, and many Republicans, including Donald Trump, are not. We'll get into why.


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00:00:37.680 The Arizona Supreme Court has ruled that since the U.S. Supreme Court overruled Roe v. Wade,
00:00:44.100 a 160-year-old local law banning abortions is now enforceable, which everyone seems shocked by, and I'm not sure why.
00:00:54.560 Laws are laws.
00:00:55.520 Laws don't cease to be laws just because they're old.
00:01:00.220 The Constitution is 235 years old.
00:01:03.100 It's 47% older than this Arizona law, and the Constitution is still the law of the land.
00:01:11.220 Court rulings can overturn laws, but those same court rulings can be overturned as well, and then the laws are back and forth.
00:01:18.060 So abortion is illegal in the state of Arizona, which is great news.
00:01:24.440 I am thrilled.
00:01:25.200 The only strange wrinkle in this pro-life ruling is that many Democrats are also thrilled,
00:01:33.580 and many Republicans, including our presidential nominee, are not.
00:01:37.960 We'll get into why.
00:01:38.780 I'm Michael Knowles.
00:01:39.380 This is The Michael Knowles Show.
00:01:40.160 Welcome back to the show.
00:02:00.440 Whoopi Goldberg says Republicans want to bring back slavery.
00:02:03.480 How'd they find us out?
00:02:05.640 I thought we were so secret about it.
00:02:09.080 And we were playing the long game, you see.
00:02:10.960 Like when Republicans got rid of slavery during the Civil War, you know, we thought, ah, this is the perfect fake out.
00:02:17.760 But this is going to be the way that we're going to reinstitute it 160 years from now.
00:02:23.160 But Whoopi found us out.
00:02:24.540 So anyway, we'll get to that story in a moment.
00:02:25.940 First, though, the Democrats are oddly happy about the Arizona Supreme Court ruling that the 160-year-old Arizona law banning abortion can go into effect.
00:02:39.360 We turn to one of the top Democrat campaign strategists in the country, David Axelrod, to explain why.
00:02:47.760 As a political matter, this could not be more of a disaster for the Republican Party.
00:02:54.620 Yesterday, Donald Trump said, well, it's up to the people in the states to decide.
00:02:58.000 Let the states decide.
00:02:59.060 Well, here you find what happens when you let the states decide.
00:03:02.640 In Florida, a six-week ban is in place.
00:03:05.500 I guarantee you in both those states, if you put that on the ballot, and they will be on the ballot in the form of initiatives, that a majority of voters in those states do not agree with those policies.
00:03:17.180 So I think what this does is it puts a battleground state more in the leaning D column than the leaning R column, because I think there's going to be a massive turnout in November for a constitutional amendment in the state of Arizona,
00:03:34.300 because the voters of Arizona now have a demonstration of the fragility of abortion rights in the post-Dobbs era.
00:03:43.060 I think this is an earthquake.
00:03:45.300 Those electoral votes in Arizona could be the ones that tip this election.
00:03:50.740 Hate to say I agree with David Axelrod, but he's right.
00:03:54.540 As a political matter, it is true.
00:03:56.080 When the abortion issue post-Dobbs has come up as a ballot initiative, generally the pro-abortion crowd has done very well.
00:04:04.240 Now, what does that mean?
00:04:06.200 Does that mean that conservatives now need to say we're all okay with infanticide?
00:04:12.580 No.
00:04:13.900 The reason that we need to defend innocent human life in the womb is not because it plays really well at the ballot box.
00:04:21.580 Sometimes it does.
00:04:22.940 Sometimes it doesn't.
00:04:23.800 The reason we need to protect innocent life in the womb is because these are the most defenseless among us, and it's wrong to murder babies.
00:04:30.580 And not to put too fine a point on it, but if we do not defend the right to life, we cannot plausibly defend any other rights, because the right to life is not just one right among many.
00:04:42.520 You have the right to drive a car after the age of 16.
00:04:46.340 You have a right to do this.
00:04:47.440 You have a right to do that.
00:04:48.240 No.
00:04:49.540 You don't even actually have the right to drive a car because it's sort of a privilege that the state can revoke.
00:04:52.940 The right to life is the fundamental right on which all the other rights rely.
00:04:59.780 So that's why we do it.
00:05:01.940 It's not some kind of consequentialist ends justify the means political expediency argument.
00:05:08.640 It's that it's just obviously wrong to murder hundreds of thousands of babies a year.
00:05:12.400 It's wrong to murder one baby a year, and so we're going to defend the right to life.
00:05:16.820 But that doesn't mean that pro-lifers can ignore the politics of it, because the people who win the elections go make laws, and the people who lose the elections go home.
00:05:25.660 And David Axelrod is probably right.
00:05:28.320 The way that this happened in Arizona is really great for the Democrats, because it's not even as though the people of the state of Arizona today went out and voted to ban abortion.
00:05:38.080 It's that a law that was on the books 160 years ago has been deemed enforceable again, that that law was deemed unenforceable after the Supreme Court wrongly decided the Roe versus Wade case and invented a constitutional right to an abortion.
00:05:55.800 And then the issue went away for 50 years, and now it's back.
00:05:58.040 And so the Arizona Supreme Court ruling is absolutely right, and it is a good thing.
00:06:03.980 And also, the Republicans need to figure out a way to talk about abortion heading into November that is not going to turn off voters, particularly in the swing states that we have to win, notably Arizona and Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.
00:06:20.700 So what does President Trump think about all this?
00:06:22.320 President Trump was asked about this while getting off of the Trump Force One, you know, his gigantic airplane.
00:06:29.760 This is right after the Arizona Supreme Court ruling.
00:06:33.440 President Trump, the most pro-life president of my lifetime, gives this strange answer.
00:06:39.260 Mr. President, did Arizona go too far?
00:06:42.080 Did Arizona go too far?
00:06:43.260 Yeah, they did, and that'll be straightened out.
00:06:45.320 And as you know, it's all about states' rights.
00:06:47.480 That'll be straightened out.
00:06:48.440 And I'm sure that the governor and everybody else are going to bring it back into reason, and that will be taken care of, I think, very quickly.
00:06:55.220 What do you think about Florida?
00:06:57.040 Florida is probably maybe going to change or something.
00:07:00.040 See, it's all of what the will of the people.
00:07:02.520 This is what I've been saying.
00:07:03.560 It's a perfect system.
00:07:05.260 So for 52 years, people have wanted to end Roe v. Wade to get it back to the states.
00:07:10.760 We did that.
00:07:11.540 It was an incredible thing, an incredible achievement.
00:07:14.200 We did that, and now the states have it, and the states are putting out what they want.
00:07:18.980 It's the will of the people.
00:07:20.260 So Florida's probably going to change.
00:07:23.040 Arizona's going to definitely change.
00:07:25.240 Everybody wants that to happen.
00:07:27.240 And you're getting the will of the people.
00:07:28.840 It's been pretty amazing.
00:07:30.340 What's confounding about this answer is that it's two answers that are contradictory.
00:07:41.380 On the one hand, President Trump is rightly taking credit for getting Roe v. Wade overruled.
00:07:46.740 He's the guy who did it.
00:07:47.800 George Bush didn't do it.
00:07:49.860 Mitt Romney and John McCain didn't do it.
00:07:51.980 They didn't even get elected.
00:07:53.980 Ronald Reagan didn't do it.
00:07:57.480 Bush Sr. didn't do it.
00:07:59.260 Donald Trump did it.
00:08:00.400 He gets the credit for it.
00:08:01.660 And it bothers me when people say previous Republican presidents and presidential candidates were much more pro-life than Donald Trump.
00:08:10.340 Practically, no, they weren't.
00:08:11.420 They all had the same line, which is the issue should be returned to the states.
00:08:14.520 They all had the same line, which is there should be certain exceptions because babies conceived in one way are apparently not as valuable as babies conceived in another way or whatever, whatever their arguments are.
00:08:23.900 And Donald Trump had that same line, and then he actually got it done, and he actually overruled Roe v. Wade.
00:08:29.820 So it bothers me when I hear the pro-life criticism of Trump vis-a-vis the other Republican presidents.
00:08:35.840 He got it done.
00:08:36.440 They didn't.
00:08:37.840 And he gives the line, says, I overruled Roe v. Wade, and sent it back to the states.
00:08:43.000 Would I prefer if we just said, hey, it's wrong to murder babies everywhere.
00:08:46.940 It's just as wrong to murder babies in New Jersey as it is in Tennessee.
00:08:49.660 Yeah, I would prefer that.
00:08:50.640 But as a practical political reality, we're not even close to that right now.
00:08:55.800 And the best argument that we had and the argument that ultimately swayed the Supreme Court in Dobbs was that this is a state matter, not a federal matter.
00:09:03.820 This is a matter for the legislature, not for the judiciary.
00:09:07.160 So, okay, there we are.
00:09:07.920 And Trump gives that line.
00:09:09.000 But then the issue goes to the states, and Arizona enforces its law.
00:09:15.760 And President Trump says, yeah, we're going to change that.
00:09:17.680 They went too far.
00:09:18.500 Well, you know, obviously that is a contradiction there.
00:09:23.980 You can't simultaneously say that the issue has to be decided by the states, and the states can do whatever they want.
00:09:30.280 But also when the states go too far in protecting life, we have to correct that.
00:09:35.160 Same thing with Florida.
00:09:36.760 So what is he doing here?
00:09:38.040 I'm really not attacking Trump because he's the guy who got it done, and he's just trying to win an election, I think.
00:09:45.700 He's not running for governor of Arizona.
00:09:48.200 He's not running for governor of Florida.
00:09:51.040 But he could exert some pressure, and so that's why we've got to pay attention to this.
00:09:55.380 And the pro-life movement needs to be very careful about how we handle this.
00:10:00.280 Trump is not only our best vessel for pro-life policy at the national level.
00:10:05.620 He's the only one.
00:10:06.580 He's the only shot.
00:10:07.180 The alternatives are Joe Biden and Bobby Kennedy Jr.
00:10:11.400 Not a great idea.
00:10:13.360 So on the one hand, great stuff.
00:10:16.100 Got to work with President Trump.
00:10:17.560 Got to make sure that we craft his policy in a way that is conducive to flourishing and life and helps us get elected.
00:10:27.160 But what are we supposed to say?
00:10:32.220 What are the conservatives supposed to say here?
00:10:34.620 What should Trump's take be?
00:10:37.540 I think that Trump's take should be two-thirds of what his current take is.
00:10:44.060 His current take consists of three things.
00:10:47.300 Arizona and Florida are going way too far in protecting life.
00:10:50.540 And we support the will of the people.
00:10:55.900 And Roe v. Wade should be a state's matter, or abortion should be a state's matter.
00:11:00.520 It shouldn't be decided at the federal level.
00:11:02.560 Those are the three simultaneous takes that he has on this.
00:11:07.460 And two of them, I think, are perfectly acceptable to the pro-life movement.
00:11:11.020 Probably the best we're going to get practically for a while.
00:11:12.800 Well, it's the latter two that are – send it back to the states.
00:11:17.440 Okay, you could make an argument that the 14th Amendment prohibits abortion as a matter of constitutional law.
00:11:25.660 Because the 14th Amendment says that you need equal protection.
00:11:31.720 So little babies in the womb who are being murdered don't have equal protection.
00:11:34.840 They're not being given due process rights.
00:11:36.500 So you could make that argument.
00:11:38.600 John Finnis and Robbie George, Robbie George, the conservative professor at Princeton, have made that argument.
00:11:43.500 They made it in an amicus brief to the Supreme Court during the Dobbs decision.
00:11:46.480 But it hasn't won the day yet.
00:11:47.820 So, okay, we can keep pushing for these kinds of arguments.
00:11:50.760 But I think states' rights works.
00:11:53.480 I think will of the people works.
00:11:56.080 Because you can say, look, this is a matter for the people of the state to decide.
00:11:59.860 The only place where Trump is going too far here, and if I were advising him, I would say probably a good idea to pull off a little bit,
00:12:05.280 is when he says, well, the states are going too far and we need more abortion.
00:12:08.340 No, no, no, man.
00:12:09.300 There's no way.
00:12:10.020 That, you know, politics is the art of inclusion.
00:12:13.540 Politics is the art of the possible.
00:12:14.880 But there you are going so far that you will alienate some of the pro-lifers.
00:12:18.120 Who are the boots on the ground?
00:12:19.580 And the really cynical Republican strategists for many years said, hey, we should never get Roe v. Wade overruled.
00:12:24.760 Because the moment we do that, we're going to lose all this free work, all this money, all of these campaign volunteers who are motivated by the abortion issue.
00:12:35.780 The moment you solve the issue for them, they're going to go away.
00:12:38.720 So we've got to keep dangling that carrot out in front of them so they keep running on the treadmill and powering the Republican operation.
00:12:44.060 Trump, contrary to that sort of cynicism, actually got it done, which is a great thing.
00:12:49.340 He is now at risk of alienating the pro-lifers who are the boots on the ground for a lot of Republican politics.
00:12:56.120 So if I were advising him, I'd say, Mr. President, very good strategy, very smart stuff.
00:13:01.360 Two-thirds of what you're doing is absolutely right.
00:13:03.700 Pull it back on that third.
00:13:05.520 It's not Arizona that's gone too far.
00:13:07.600 It is the campaign here that's gone a little bit too far.
00:13:12.120 Pull it back.
00:13:13.380 The pro-life movement will accept, leave it to the states.
00:13:15.520 The pro-life movement will accept, leave it to the people to vote for.
00:13:17.800 They're not going to accept that we need more abortion in any of these states.
00:13:22.140 It's just not going to happen.
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00:14:29.040 Speaking of death and Democrats, Mayor Pete, Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
00:14:35.120 He went on Jen Psaki's show on MSNBC to answer for the skyrocketing crime in Washington, D.C.
00:14:45.980 And so many of America's cities have become death traps.
00:14:51.620 There's just violence.
00:14:53.740 There's people don't feel safe walking around.
00:14:56.160 And Mayor Pete here is saying, actually, that's all really overstated.
00:14:59.860 Ha ha.
00:15:00.420 Why?
00:15:01.180 Because, Mayor Pete says, he's able to walk his dog.
00:15:04.940 We need to talk about the reality here.
00:15:06.840 And, again, there is a lot of funding and a lot of energy going into telling a different story, especially on ideological news outlets and online.
00:15:16.900 But the simple facts and the simple reality are right here staring us in the face, including the fact that I can safely walk my dog to the Capitol today in a way that you couldn't do when we all got here.
00:15:30.880 Excuse me?
00:15:33.600 I can walk my dog.
00:15:35.480 I, a cabinet secretary with presumably 24-7 security detail, I can walk my dog in the nation's Capitol without being murdered.
00:15:49.000 That is the bar.
00:15:51.220 That is the low bar pushed by Democrats for safety in our cities.
00:15:57.320 That is not satisfactory.
00:15:59.100 That is certainly not sufficient.
00:16:00.420 I'm glad that a cabinet secretary with lots of government-provided security can walk his dog in the Capitol.
00:16:10.740 What about the people who don't work for the president?
00:16:13.320 What about the people without the 24-7 security?
00:16:15.800 What about the people who don't live in the best parts of D.C.?
00:16:19.420 They can't.
00:16:20.920 What about the people in New York and Portland and San Francisco and Los Angeles?
00:16:24.580 And what about those people is simply a fact that crime is skyrocketing, specifically in D.C.?
00:16:31.240 For goodness sakes, you remember Naomi Biden, the president's granddaughter, was, I think, around Georgetown.
00:16:36.360 And Secret Service caught a guy trying to jack their car.
00:16:40.160 And then Secret Service wasn't even able to catch the guy.
00:16:45.140 That's pathetic.
00:16:47.640 And Mayor Pete and the whole Biden administration need to claim that this is the party of law and order.
00:16:54.600 But it's just not.
00:16:55.700 This is a party, and this predates Joe Biden's presidency, a party that is called to release more criminals, to empty out the prisons, to abolish prisons in some cases.
00:17:07.300 They've installed district attorneys that don't prosecute the criminals, that will arrest them for committing heinous crimes, and then let them out immediately, and then the criminals go commit more crime.
00:17:15.880 This is not an accident.
00:17:17.180 This is not just how cities operate.
00:17:19.440 This is a very intentional political agenda by the Democrats.
00:17:23.080 And it's contrary to the flourishing of a country, and voters know that, because the first thing you need, the first thing that a state has to provide is peace, order, security.
00:17:37.820 That is the argument as to why states are good, natural institutions, is that mankind is a social creature, and we need to live in community with one another.
00:17:47.040 And in order to do anything at all, to exercise our liberty, to build a business, to have a stable family, to grow and to flourish, in order to do any of that, you need peace and security and stability.
00:17:57.640 It's the first thing that the state has to provide, and this government is failing at that.
00:18:02.960 Joe Biden is failing at that.
00:18:04.480 Not only are they failing out of their incompetence, they're failing out of their subversion.
00:18:09.240 They're failing because they don't want to provide those things.
00:18:12.340 But they also don't want to deal with the political consequences of their own actions.
00:18:16.240 So what do they do?
00:18:17.380 They lie.
00:18:17.880 And they trot out Mayor Pete, psycho Mayor Pete, to stare at you on camera and say, oh, what are you talking about?
00:18:23.900 There's no crime.
00:18:25.100 We don't want to abolish the prisons and let all the criminals out of jail.
00:18:28.500 No, we don't actively install district attorneys all around the country to punish the innocent and to give all sorts of goodies to the guilty.
00:18:38.440 And so they can go around and push you in front of the subway tracks.
00:18:40.900 What are you talking about?
00:18:42.300 Well, I've seen the videos.
00:18:45.120 I've looked at the statistics.
00:18:46.280 The people are rightly angry with you.
00:18:48.920 No, these are not the droids you're looking for.
00:18:51.640 It is happening.
00:18:52.900 So the only thing they can do is lie.
00:18:56.600 Is that going to carry the day in November?
00:18:58.620 I'm skeptical of that.
00:18:59.920 Now, speaking of Biden and crime, Joe Biden, according to some leaks, this was leaked after a meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister, Fumio Kishida.
00:19:13.540 A journalist asked Biden if he is considering dropping the prosecution into WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, and Biden says we're considering it.
00:19:24.580 This is massive, whether this is a policy that the Biden administration intended to tip its hat to, or whether it's just Biden speaking out of turn, or whether Biden is just totally wrong, as he is on a lot of things.
00:19:37.560 If this is true, it's massive.
00:19:42.040 Julian Assange has been on the lam for a decade and a half now or something like that for, his defenders would say, for journalism, for publishing leaked material about the American security state and the American system of surveillance.
00:20:00.580 Now, Assange's critics would say that he has undermined American national security and we're going to go get him.
00:20:06.920 But whether you're favorable toward Assange or unfavorable toward him, both parties previously agreed, get this guy.
00:20:15.640 And then, the Democrats started to weaken on it, and the Democrats and the leftists started to say that he did nothing wrong and you got to let him off the hook.
00:20:25.800 Then, in recent years, it was the Republicans who said this.
00:20:29.420 We're talking post-Trump era.
00:20:31.040 All of a sudden, the Republicans went from being, you know, give us his head, kill Assange, to let Julian Assange off the hook.
00:20:37.620 What changed?
00:20:38.440 What changed is that we saw the Democrats wield the security state and the surveillance state on Republicans and specifically on Donald Trump because they tried to prevent him from being elected in the first place.
00:20:50.980 They illegally spied on his campaign.
00:20:52.840 They cooked up fake intelligence with Russians, ironically, and the Hillary campaign and the FBI.
00:20:58.700 And then, when that failed, they tried to undermine the rest of his administration.
00:21:01.620 They went after General Mike Flynn over nothing.
00:21:07.640 They just totally set him up.
00:21:08.900 They entrapped him.
00:21:09.740 They tried to ruin his life and his family simply because they didn't want Trump to be the president.
00:21:14.440 They wanted to oppose the will of the people who voted for him.
00:21:16.720 And then, they tried to impeach Donald Trump.
00:21:18.840 They did impeach him, I guess, multiple times.
00:21:22.020 And Republicans are sick of it.
00:21:23.500 But this is a major, major shift when you've got Biden coming out and saying they're considering dropping the prosecution into Assange.
00:21:34.720 And then, what does President Trump say?
00:21:36.200 He just tweets out or truths out.
00:21:38.280 Kill FISA.
00:21:38.980 It was illegally used against me and many others.
00:21:40.940 They spied on my campaign, DJT.
00:21:42.920 Both parties now.
00:21:43.840 This is one of the biggest shifts in the American political order in my lifetime.
00:21:51.160 Both parties switching sides.
00:21:53.720 And so, why doesn't it get done?
00:21:55.980 Well, it reveals the fact that both parties are now criticizing.
00:21:59.100 Namely, our government is not just Democrats and Republicans and elected officials in the Congress and the White House and appointed judges in the Supreme Court.
00:22:09.080 Our government is also made up of an entrenched bureaucracy, including the national security state, the surveillance state, the intelligence community.
00:22:19.160 And even when both parties are against the surveillance state, the surveillance state still has a ton of power.
00:22:26.880 The government is a lot different than we were told with the bill up on Capitol Hill and Schoolhouse Rock.
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00:24:18.300 Further complications for Joe Biden and good news for Donald Trump.
00:24:22.200 The New York State Director for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s presidential campaign
00:24:27.040 is raising a question in the minds of a lot of the political establishment.
00:24:31.700 Is RFK seriously running to become the president?
00:24:35.120 Or is he merely a stalking horse for Donald Trump?
00:24:37.940 The Kennedy voter and the Trump voter, the enemy, our mutual enemy is Biden.
00:24:44.180 Since Biden is counting on us with Bobby in the mix, my thought is for the Republicans.
00:24:50.560 See, Bobby right now, he's pulling from both sides.
00:24:53.220 Right now, he's actually pulling a little bit more from Biden, which explains why the DNC is kind of ganging up on him.
00:24:58.840 If the Republicans accepted the fact that New York, Maryland, Illinois, California, New Jersey, Connecticut, most of the Northeast is going to go blue,
00:25:10.640 why wouldn't we put our vote to Bobby and at least get rid of Biden and get those 28 electoral votes in New York?
00:25:18.540 The card's a little wrong. It says 26 electoral votes.
00:25:22.680 Give those 28 electoral votes to Bobby rather than to Biden, thereby reducing Biden's 270.
00:25:31.200 If nobody gets to 270, then Congress picks the president.
00:25:35.740 So who are they going to pick?
00:25:37.100 Who are they going to pick?
00:25:37.920 If it's a Republican Congress, they'll pick Trump.
00:25:39.840 So we're rid of Biden either way.
00:25:43.760 Okay, there's the evidence.
00:25:45.380 There's a smoking gun that Bobby Kennedy is a secret Republican.
00:25:48.500 He's a secret Trump supporter.
00:25:49.700 No, not exactly.
00:25:51.400 This is a pretty interesting strategy.
00:25:54.280 In winner-take-all kind of states where the electoral votes are all going to go to one candidate or the other,
00:26:00.200 in a state that Trump simply cannot win,
00:26:03.840 maybe the Republicans should cast their votes for Bobby Kennedy
00:26:06.980 so that Biden is deprived of a clear win.
00:26:13.360 And what happens?
00:26:15.340 Well, if it's unclear that anyone is going to get the requisite electoral votes,
00:26:20.780 then the election is going to be thrown to the House and then Trump gets elected,
00:26:23.400 which is a little bit dubious right now because the Republicans in the House have a one-vote majority.
00:26:27.660 So actually, I don't know that it's all that clear.
00:26:30.040 People keep dropping left and right.
00:26:31.320 But in any case, regardless of this 3D chess, 10,000 moves,
00:26:35.540 here's how Bernie Sanders can still win kind of campaign strategizing.
00:26:38.680 I don't think the video even proves that Bobby Kennedy's campaign is just a stalking horse for Trump.
00:26:46.180 If I were working for Bobby Kennedy's campaign, this is the kind of strategy I'd be pursuing too
00:26:51.460 because Kennedy is not running against Trump.
00:26:55.700 Kennedy is not really even running for president.
00:26:57.400 I'm sure he wants some political power.
00:26:59.860 But Kennedy is running to first take his party back from Joe Biden,
00:27:06.440 take his party back from the leftists who have taken over it.
00:27:10.700 He's running as a Kennedy.
00:27:12.120 All of his campaign ads are like 1960s, remember my dad, remember my uncle kind of campaign ads.
00:27:18.160 The Democratic Party today is rather different than it was 50, 60 years ago.
00:27:22.780 And Kennedy is capitalizing on that.
00:27:26.860 Kennedy is not just some kook and some fringe figure.
00:27:29.980 Regardless of his views on any particular subject, Bobby Kennedy is a Kennedy, okay?
00:27:35.140 That still carries weight in the Democrat Party.
00:27:37.960 And I don't think he appreciates that these two-bit Joe Biden people
00:27:42.280 and the Clintons and the Obamas are taking his party away from him.
00:27:45.880 So whatever the Kennedy political project, the chief enemy is Joe Biden.
00:27:54.200 You got to get him first.
00:27:55.600 Then they can deal with Trump and the Republicans.
00:27:57.880 And knowing that these are the guys who are pitted really against one another,
00:28:02.500 the only chance that Kennedy is going to get any political power in the next administration
00:28:06.200 is if Trump gives it to him, if he names him a cabinet secretary or something.
00:28:10.720 Secretary of vaccines or something like that.
00:28:13.340 So this is a smart strategy for the Kennedy campaign.
00:28:17.080 I'm not sure it's a smart strategy for the Trump voters.
00:28:20.160 But it's also not proof that Kennedy is a secret Republican.
00:28:23.580 He's not.
00:28:24.000 He's a liberal who just doesn't like that his party has been taken away from him.
00:28:28.880 He, a member of one of the most important dynastic families in that party.
00:28:33.100 Now, speaking of Democrats retreating to older talking points,
00:28:40.040 Whoopi Goldberg has accused Republicans of trying to reinstate slavery in America.
00:28:47.620 Take a look at the things that they're rolling back.
00:28:51.320 Remember I said ages ago, you know, in their minds, they want to bring slavery back.
00:28:57.560 They're okay with it because, you see, things change.
00:29:02.440 You know, one of the good things about the Supreme Court is you can fight to make sure you make stuff better.
00:29:08.640 You don't generally fight to make stuff worse.
00:29:11.780 Or to roll back.
00:29:12.280 And to me, or to roll back.
00:29:13.520 And to me, if you're okay rolling that back, when things were not even a state, when we had no say.
00:29:22.060 Yeah.
00:29:23.540 So, how's that going to roll?
00:29:25.640 How's that going to roll?
00:29:26.660 What's the next thing?
00:29:28.200 Because, you know, on this, with all of this comes birth control.
00:29:32.940 Right.
00:29:33.140 With all of this comes everything that you need as a woman to have had put in place to make sure that we were doing better than we were before.
00:29:46.740 Huh.
00:29:48.020 The Republicans want to bring slavery back because they also don't think babies should be murdered.
00:29:54.860 And the Constitution guarantees a right to condoms, which women need to have everything that they need.
00:30:03.140 I think that is the argument that Whoopi is making here.
00:30:06.260 It's kind of an ironic argument because the best argument, the best legal and historical argument today against abortion in America is the argument against slavery.
00:30:18.980 In fact, the really hardcore portion of the pro-life movement calls itself the abolition movement.
00:30:24.800 The reason that abortion is wrong is in large part because human beings are proper subjects with rights themselves.
00:30:35.620 They're not merely objects for our use.
00:30:39.060 This is also an argument against the surrogacy industry.
00:30:41.240 You should not be able to buy and sell human beings for your own convenience, and you should not be able to murder innocent human beings for your own convenience.
00:30:51.760 Because human beings are not just your property.
00:30:54.480 Human beings are not just a commodity to be bought and sold and possessed and discarded of.
00:30:59.300 A human being is a proper subject with rights.
00:31:02.620 So, Whoopi, obviously a little bit confused on the slavery thing there.
00:31:06.080 Then to say that Republicans want to bring slavery back, why is that?
00:31:10.240 Well, because they want to go backward.
00:31:13.300 You don't want to go backward.
00:31:14.500 You want to go forward.
00:31:15.580 You don't want bad things.
00:31:16.600 You want good things.
00:31:17.640 Right, Whoopi.
00:31:18.900 But one mark of education and of civility is being able to entertain the ideas held by your opponents.
00:31:30.200 And so, I totally understand that you think the things that you're pushing for are good, and the things that we're pushing for are bad.
00:31:36.120 But can you not therefore see that in our minds, the things that we're pushing for are good, and the things you're pushing for are bad.
00:31:43.760 Like, we think it's good not to murder little babies, and you think it's good to murder little babies, because you've convinced yourselves that it's an essential matter of human rights for women to be able to snuff out the lives of their own children.
00:31:55.560 And you've determined this because you have an anthropology and a political ideology that begins from the false premise of hyper-individualism, and because you've come to the erroneous conclusion that being able to sleep around, to be promiscuous, to go work in the city alone, to not have a family, to not have children, and to not feel any responsibility toward anyone else will somehow make you happy.
00:32:22.100 But it won't make you happy, but that's what you think, and so I understand how you've come to that conclusion.
00:32:27.000 Can you not see how we've come to the conclusion that it's wrong to murder babies?
00:32:30.200 It seems to me that's an easier one to understand.
00:32:32.680 And then further, to say that there's a right to condoms in the Constitution.
00:32:36.320 Maybe you like condoms.
00:32:37.920 Maybe you want there to be condoms.
00:32:39.440 Maybe you love the legal license to condoms.
00:32:43.500 Okay, I guess you can pass a law about that.
00:32:45.920 But you're really going to tell me that that's in the Constitution?
00:32:47.900 Where's that in the Constitution?
00:32:49.780 Our founding fathers didn't think that was in the Constitution.
00:32:52.100 Our great statesmen who built up our country for the first 170 years didn't, 180 years.
00:33:00.500 Even later, 185 years didn't think it was in the Constitution.
00:33:05.100 It's only through two mid to late 20th century Supreme Court decisions, which is Griswold versus Connecticut and Eisenstadt v. Baird, which determined that there's a right to condoms.
00:33:14.300 And the first one said there's a right to condoms for married couples in the Constitution, but not for anyone else.
00:33:19.260 And then Eisenstadt said, actually, sorry, the invisible ink, we were able to uncover a little bit more of it in the Constitution.
00:33:26.500 And it says that there's a right to condoms for unmarried couples, too.
00:33:29.260 Okay, well, whatever.
00:33:30.400 It's just not there.
00:33:31.480 As far as I can tell, it's not there, and no one ever thought it was there until about 50, 60 years ago.
00:33:37.380 So what is your conclusion here from the principle of constitutional law?
00:33:44.380 The left's conclusion is anything we want is not only permitted by the Constitution, but mandated by it.
00:33:50.800 And anything that we oppose is outlawed by the Constitution because we say so.
00:33:55.780 And our opponents are the devil himself, and they want to reinstitute slavery.
00:34:00.440 And what's our evidence of this?
00:34:01.400 Nothing.
00:34:02.520 Okay, it's a sign of desperation from the Democrats, but it's also nothing new.
00:34:07.380 Don't forget, this is the campaign line trotted out by the current Democrat president of the United States when he was running for re-election as vice president.
00:34:18.300 And he claimed that Mitt Romney wanted to do the same thing Whoopi Goldberg is accusing us of.
00:34:23.540 Look at what they value and look at their budget and what they're proposing.
00:34:27.580 Romney wants to let the, he said in the first hundred days, he's going to let the big banks once again write their own rules.
00:34:33.300 Unchained Wall Street.
00:34:39.240 They're going to put y'all back in chains.
00:34:41.700 Going to put y'all back in chains.
00:34:44.280 This was in, I believe, in North Carolina.
00:34:46.180 So there were a lot of black people in the audience.
00:34:48.820 Mitt Romney's going to put y'all back in chains is what he's going to do.
00:34:52.620 Other notable thing about that clip, you know how Joe Biden, because he's senile and obviously has dementia, he doesn't speak right anymore.
00:34:59.460 And the Democrats have tried to convince us that he's had a stutter for his whole life.
00:35:04.240 He had a childhood stutter, and he's always stuttered his whole life.
00:35:06.860 And that's why he talks that way now.
00:35:08.140 It has nothing to do with his obvious dementia.
00:35:10.000 Well, that wasn't that long ago.
00:35:11.460 That was, what, 10 years, 12 years ago?
00:35:13.580 And Joe Biden sounds periclean compared to what he is now.
00:35:18.380 Where was that stutter?
00:35:19.100 Where was that stutter from the beginning of his political career in 1971 through about 2018, 2019?
00:35:26.580 Disappeared.
00:35:27.140 Then the childhood stutter came back.
00:35:28.700 And the old stupid talking points came back, too.
00:35:31.660 This is it.
00:35:32.700 So while I agree with some of these Democrats, like David Axelrod and some of the campaign strategists who say,
00:35:38.240 huh, this ruling in Arizona might be a political benefit to Democrats in a crucial swing state.
00:35:43.580 Or, huh, the way that the election is being conducted with still widespread use of mail-in ballots and drop boxes, that might help the Democrats.
00:35:54.780 That's true.
00:35:55.120 They've got some real advantages going into 2024.
00:35:58.320 But the fact that they've got to retreat to these kinds of arguments, Republicans want to enslave you again or something, to me, is a sign of weakness.
00:36:08.380 Now, speaking of freedom and slavery, really interesting article in the Washington Post.
00:36:14.880 I say that very rarely, but it's a fact.
00:36:17.180 The article takes on a trend that somehow I've found myself near the center of this debate.
00:36:25.760 It's about traditionalism, traditional conservatism, and trad wives, headline, trad wives, stay-at-home girlfriends, and the dream of feminine leisure.
00:36:38.600 Sure. We'll get to this in one second.
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00:37:20.080 My favorite comment yesterday is from user CF7ZI3EC6I, huh?
00:37:27.620 The Nala interview was one of the best that Michael has done.
00:37:30.320 I believe she is sincere, and I pray hope that God uses her to further his kingdom.
00:37:33.880 So glad you felt that way.
00:37:35.240 My interview with Nala Ray, who is one of the top pornography actresses on OnlyFans,
00:37:41.560 who has now said that she's had a major conversion and got rid of her OnlyFans and, you know, is living on the straight and narrow or endeavoring to live on the straight and narrow.
00:37:54.640 It's caused a huge firestorm.
00:37:56.900 It's got millions and millions.
00:37:57.880 Last I checked it, I had over 6 million views on X, and YouTube has been suppressing the interview, but it's still got many hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube.
00:38:05.320 And so you can go check it out.
00:38:07.080 Check it out on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel or on the Michael Knowles Show X and tell me what you think.
00:38:13.420 Speaking of women living a traditional life, this article opens up with the story of a Harvard undergraduate.
00:38:23.000 And it's this Harvard undergraduate who published an essay in The Cut called The Case for Marrying an Older Man.
00:38:28.780 And this Harvard undergrad, she said, look, I don't buy all the feminist claptrap.
00:38:35.560 I'm going to go over to Harvard Business School.
00:38:37.600 I'm going to find an older guy who's a little bit more settled.
00:38:40.640 He's going to have a good career.
00:38:42.520 He's going to be kind of normal.
00:38:44.380 And I'm going to marry him.
00:38:45.760 And I don't care if he's 10 years older.
00:38:46.920 I'm going to marry him.
00:38:49.060 Here's one of the key lines.
00:38:50.260 She says, I had grown bored of discussions of fair and unfair, equal or unequal, and preferred instead to consider a thing called ease.
00:39:01.600 And the writer of this piece attacking tradwives on the Washington Post, to emphasize it, she writes, italics, a thing called ease.
00:39:14.540 Can you imagine?
00:39:16.380 So who's right?
00:39:17.400 Are the feminists in journalism or this Harvard undergrad who wanted to get herself a, you know, hot, hunk, wealthy guy to take care of her?
00:39:29.960 Mostly the Harvard undergrad is right, but the liberal women have a somewhat decent point in raising a red flag here.
00:39:38.660 Because it depends on what the meaning of the word ease is.
00:39:43.460 The libs, the feminists, they don't want to make their lives easy.
00:39:46.580 They make their lives unnecessarily hard and unpleasant.
00:39:51.480 When they say, I'm going to put off getting married.
00:39:53.260 I don't want to get married.
00:39:54.100 A woman needs a man like a fish, needs a bicycle.
00:39:55.440 I don't want kids.
00:39:56.360 No, no, sir.
00:39:57.500 I'm going to be fulfilled by working in the widget factory for Dr. McGillicuddy.
00:40:01.120 And no, that's actually a type of schnapps.
00:40:02.540 Mr. McGillicuddy owns the widget factory, and he's going to pay me.
00:40:05.620 And then I'm going to go sleep with a bunch of men.
00:40:07.400 And then I'm going to be used up, and men aren't going to want me anymore.
00:40:11.000 And then I'm going to be really bitter about it.
00:40:12.600 But that's good somehow, because I'm going to be behaving like a man.
00:40:16.040 And that's what a real woman is.
00:40:17.680 A real woman is just going to ignore the feminine virtues and pursue the masculine virtues.
00:40:21.280 And that'll make me happy.
00:40:22.180 Yeah, I'm so happy, right?
00:40:24.280 No, no.
00:40:25.160 Usually that does not make people happy.
00:40:27.240 And it's a very hard life.
00:40:29.160 And a lot of people are duped into it by our stupid feminist culture.
00:40:32.280 But it's unfortunate that they are, because it's not conducive to their happiness.
00:40:37.040 But what about the gal at Harvard, who says, yeah, I just want a rich guy to take care of me.
00:40:42.400 I want ease.
00:40:43.400 A woman finding a man that she admires and respects, who she's going to look up to as the head of her household, who is going to have a clearer leadership vision for their marriage, that is, in a way, going to be easier.
00:41:01.460 And that's probably a good thing.
00:41:03.940 But the headline here is really weird, right?
00:41:05.560 It says, Trad Wives, Stay-at-Home Girlfriends, and the Dream of Feminine Leisure.
00:41:10.800 Stay-at-home girlfriend.
00:41:12.040 That's unfortunate.
00:41:12.980 The traditional word for that is concubine.
00:41:15.640 Now we have these forever girlfriends, because the men don't actually want to man up.
00:41:19.600 Maybe they'll pay for your nice stuff, but they don't actually want to act like men.
00:41:24.200 They don't want to act like leaders.
00:41:25.300 They don't want to act like the head of a household.
00:41:27.060 They just want to sleep with you.
00:41:28.660 Well, it's convenient.
00:41:29.840 Then maybe throw you out later on.
00:41:31.220 And that's not good.
00:41:33.520 And the women obviously have no self-respect if they're doing this sort of thing.
00:41:36.360 And so you don't, it's easy in the sense that, you know, it's, you don't think about it too much.
00:41:42.140 You don't even have to go get married, do you?
00:41:43.420 You just kind of move in and just go along with it.
00:41:46.140 But that's not good.
00:41:47.060 That's not the kind of ease that you want.
00:41:49.460 What I think is missing from this discussion is the fact that being a trad wife,
00:41:55.400 it doesn't give you a ton of leisure time, okay?
00:41:58.500 The trad wives are probably working more than the career women, actually.
00:42:07.040 They're happier than the career women.
00:42:08.820 They're more fulfilled than the career women.
00:42:10.580 They got more going on than the career women who say, no men, no family, no nothing.
00:42:15.600 I'm just going to do the sex in the city lifestyle and go work and then go get drinks and then go get brunch and then go back home alone.
00:42:21.540 But the trad wives are working all the time because if you're a trad wife, you are, you get married, you keep a home, you manage the home economy, you try to have children.
00:42:34.920 Not everyone gets to have children, but chances are pretty good that you'll have a kid and then maybe you're going to keep having kids.
00:42:40.520 And if you're going to be really traditional, you're going to be open to life and you're not going to be using contraception really and you're not, you're just going to, you're going to have a big old family.
00:42:48.400 Now we don't have really any children in this country.
00:42:50.640 That's why we have a dying population.
00:42:52.040 But not all that long ago, it was not uncommon at all for people to have four, five, six kids or more.
00:42:57.220 Then you'd have the Catholics and the Mormons and they'd have like a thousand kids.
00:42:59.680 That takes a lot of work.
00:43:02.260 And if you're a real trad wife, you're doing most of the changing the diapers and looking after the kids and cooking the food and doing the this and doing the that.
00:43:10.860 And you're very involved in your community and it's, it's going to take a lot of time.
00:43:16.220 Okay.
00:43:17.160 You're not going to get to go to brunch as much and you're not going to get to sit home and just binge Netflix quite as much.
00:43:21.640 The thing that we are endeavoring to find, I'll speak for myself.
00:43:27.340 The thing that I am endeavoring to find is not, not the ease of the couch potato.
00:43:34.120 I want the ease of the aristocrat.
00:43:37.420 Let's put it that way.
00:43:38.420 It gets to this word in the headline, which is leisure.
00:43:41.580 Part of a large object of our education in the olden days was leisure.
00:43:47.080 It wasn't that you'd go to get a liberal education so you could get a job.
00:43:50.340 So you could learn how to weld or something like that, or to be an engineer or to be a lawyer.
00:43:54.720 The reason you would get an education is to cultivate yourself, to immerse yourself in culture, to cultivate hobbies, desires, things that you could do in your leisure time.
00:44:06.840 So I like, I like the ease of living in accord with nature.
00:44:10.700 I like the ease of men and women being complimentary to one another.
00:44:14.740 I like the ease of two people's love being so real that it actually creates another human being.
00:44:20.720 I like the ease of building up the strength of the fundamental political unit that naturally builds up the strength of the country, which is the broadest political unit.
00:44:32.920 I like that.
00:44:33.660 I like that kind of ease.
00:44:34.540 But that's not the ease of the couch potato.
00:44:36.320 You're going to be really tired.
00:44:37.820 You're going to be working a lot.
00:44:39.140 The difference between the good kind of ease and the bad kind of ease is that the good kind of ease is going to feel natural.
00:44:48.300 It's going to play on natural strengths.
00:44:51.900 It's going to cultivate virtues.
00:44:54.520 And it's going to fulfill you at the end of the day and at the end of your life.
00:44:59.720 The ease of the couch potato or of the gold digger, right?
00:45:03.040 I'm not calling this girl a gold digger, but that's at least how the critics are attacking her.
00:45:07.240 That is not going to fulfill you.
00:45:09.480 That isn't even really all that natural, okay?
00:45:12.060 We are not here to just sit around and veg and amuse ourselves.
00:45:16.440 I mentioned the quote from George Bernard Shaw yesterday on the show, but the definition of hell is a place where you have nothing to do but amuse yourself.
00:45:24.960 And a man wrapped up in himself makes a very small package indeed.
00:45:27.820 And I don't know how many more aphorisms I have to note, but that's the difference.
00:45:31.760 Don't sign up for the trad life because you think it's easy.
00:45:35.200 Sign up for the trad life because it will fulfill you and give you the ease of living in accord with your nature and fulfilling your purpose.
00:45:43.160 Now, speaking of family life, the United Kingdom has a new proposal according to a leak that just came out of the British government.
00:45:52.200 They're considering banning smartphones for minors under the age of 16.
00:45:59.340 And this is so smart.
00:46:01.540 I want every Republican—I mean, we have federalism here, so you'd probably have to make this more of a local ordinance.
00:46:07.280 But I want all the Republicans at the appropriate levels of government to endorse this.
00:46:12.980 This is so smart.
00:46:14.220 But I have—do I have it in my pocket now?
00:46:17.420 No, I don't.
00:46:18.100 I have a little portal to hell right here in my desk drawer.
00:46:21.800 This is called a smartphone.
00:46:23.780 I believe, I like to think, that I have cultivated enough self-discipline in my 34 years of life
00:46:30.320 that I can now maybe control myself from the harmful, addictive effects of the smartphone.
00:46:36.580 Obviously, everyone talks about the fact that there's porn everywhere.
00:46:40.820 I like to think that I'm old enough to control myself there.
00:46:45.420 But I'm not even old enough to control myself from just wasting time doom-scrolling
00:46:48.720 or just having all sorts of brain rot enter my head on Twitter or on Instagram or anywhere.
00:46:54.640 And I'm a grown man.
00:46:56.080 I'm a grown man who focuses on this a lot.
00:46:57.740 You think a 15-year-old kid is going to be able to resist the brain rot in the dumb TikTok videos
00:47:03.100 and the porn, which is ubiquitous, or the age of introduction to porn is something like nine now on average?
00:47:12.160 No way.
00:47:12.840 It's crazy, man.
00:47:14.300 And if the UK isn't going to do this and if the United States government isn't going to do this,
00:47:18.520 you as a family, which is the basic political unit, should do this.
00:47:22.500 It is nuts to give a minor a smartphone.
00:47:26.280 And you might say, well, you know, when I was a kid, I had a phone.
00:47:28.580 Yet maybe you had a little Nokia or something like that.
00:47:31.080 Maybe.
00:47:31.560 Maybe you got that.
00:47:32.440 I didn't get one of those until I was much older.
00:47:35.800 If you're a boomer, you obviously didn't have a smartphone.
00:47:37.960 Gen X, or any kind of cell phone when you were a kid.
00:47:40.640 Gen X, you didn't have a cell phone when you were a kid.
00:47:43.100 This is a very new technology.
00:47:44.920 You can't use the old rulebook of, oh, let the kids just kind of raise themselves
00:47:48.920 because they're not going to raise themselves with a smartphone.
00:47:51.240 Other people are going to raise them by getting into their very malleable, spongy brains and messing them up.
00:47:58.580 Absolutely right.
00:47:59.440 This is going to be one of these issues that pits the libertarians against the conservatives.
00:48:02.660 But the conservatives are right here.
00:48:04.000 And the real hardcore smart libertarians will get along with it.
00:48:07.800 Ban it, baby, in the UK, US, everywhere else.
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