The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1467 - O.J. Simpson Deathbed Revelations

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00:00:30.000 The juice is loose from his mortal coil.

00:00:33.460 OJ Simpson has died at the age of 76.

00:00:37.300 Many people in the audience are probably too young

00:00:39.600 to remember when OJ was constantly in the news.

00:00:43.520 So for those who don't remember, OJ, of course,

00:00:46.380 was best known for being the only player to rush

00:00:49.540 for 2,000 yards in a 14-game season.

00:00:51.760 That is what he was best known for

00:00:53.300 until he murdered his wife and her friend

00:00:55.420 and then was let off the hook in a criminal case

00:00:58.860 but found liable for the murders in a civil case,

00:01:02.260 a discrepancy that only occurred

00:01:04.820 because racial tensions had been running high

00:01:07.480 after LAPD officers had been acquitted

00:01:09.900 after beating up a drunk-driving,

00:01:12.320 wife-beating career criminal named Rodney King

00:01:14.600 following a high-speed chase

00:01:16.060 that reached 117 miles per hour,

00:01:18.440 after which race riots broke out in L.A.,

00:01:21.760 killing 63 people and injuring nearly 2,400 other people

00:01:25.500 before the National Guard, the Army, and the Marines

00:01:29.040 had to be called in to restore order.

00:01:32.540 OJ's trial thrust his friend and sort of lawyer,

00:01:37.280 Robert Kardashian, into the spotlight,

00:01:39.680 which consequently foisted the rest of the Kardashian family

00:01:42.720 onto America.

00:01:43.560 Coverage of the trial got Norm MacDonald

00:01:45.880 and Jim Downey booted off of Saturday Night Live,

00:01:48.620 and the trial gave us the term N-word.

00:01:53.360 That term really was not popular before the trial.

00:01:56.820 It kind of invented the term, which is crazy.

00:01:59.640 In a decade that saw the first impeachment trial

00:02:03.080 of a U.S. president in 130 years,

00:02:06.220 OJ's murder trial was still somehow

00:02:09.020 the more significant and consequential trial.

00:02:12.440 And our nation is still, today,

00:02:15.120 grappling with its ultimate injustice.

00:02:17.800 I'm Michael Knowles.

00:02:18.500 This is The Michael Knowles Show.

00:02:38.480 Welcome back to the show.

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00:03:17.720 The significance of the OJ trial pretty much cannot be overstated.

00:03:23.320 It is one of my first public memories.

00:03:26.580 It was just in the news all the time.

00:03:30.260 And the news was on in my house all the time.

00:03:31.860 And so I just remember OJ Simpson was everywhere.

00:03:36.860 And some people actually believed he was innocent, which is the craziest part.

00:03:42.700 They found his blood at the scene.

00:03:45.580 Okay?

00:03:46.540 He just did it.

00:03:48.540 Okay?

00:03:48.740 He had a record of beating his wife, and he just obviously did it. 0.97

00:03:52.200 And then he later kind of admitted that he did it in a book.

00:03:54.440 And then he lost the civil trial.

00:03:56.800 But there were still people who defended him.

00:03:58.500 I remember Norm MacDonald, the late, great Norm MacDonald, made a joke.

00:04:02.760 It was the best joke of all of the OJ jokes.

00:04:06.540 And Norm had made about a billion OJ jokes because he and SNL writer Jim Downey had just

00:04:10.860 pummeled OJ constantly in the 90s.

00:04:13.440 And Don Ohlmeyer, who was an NBC executive who was, I think, OJ's best friend, was so

00:04:18.380 angry about this that he fired the writer Jim Downey.

00:04:21.400 And then Norm said that if Downey was gone, Norm was going to quit too.

00:04:25.360 And so it lost Norm the main spot on Saturday Night Live.

00:04:28.200 But of all the jokes, the best one came at one of the, was it the ESPYs or I don't know,

00:04:34.520 one of the sports awards.

00:04:35.820 Norm was the emcee.

00:04:37.400 And here was his joke about the Heisman Trophy.

00:04:40.340 And there's Charles Woodson.

00:04:41.780 How about that?

00:04:42.400 I don't know what a season he had.

00:04:49.940 Great, and he became the first defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy.

00:04:54.480 And congratulations, Charles.

00:04:56.040 That is something that no one can ever take away from you. 1.00

00:04:59.220 Unless you kill your wife and a waiter, in which case. 1.00

00:05:04.680 All bets are off. 1.00

00:05:08.600 It's a word of advice.

00:05:09.940 So you see in that scene, and just to cut away to the audience reaction, it tells you

00:05:15.740 everything you need to know about the OJ trial and the aftermath.

00:05:18.320 There were five people pictured there.

00:05:19.900 Two white guys, three black guys.

00:05:22.200 All athletes, one would imagine. 0.98

00:05:24.440 And one black guy kind of puts his head in his hands. 0.98

00:05:26.960 He's trying to muffle a laugh. 0.99

00:05:28.880 Another black guy.

00:05:30.820 Is that Ken Griffey?

00:05:32.200 Ken Griffey Jr.?

00:05:32.980 I can't quite tell.

00:05:33.920 I don't want to commit a racism by mixing someone up.

00:05:36.080 But this is like 30 years ago.

00:05:37.720 Is there not laughing, shaking his head.

00:05:40.060 Then the third black guy is laughing. 0.96

00:05:41.820 Then you look right behind him.

00:05:42.900 The one white guy, he's laughing.

00:05:45.240 The second white guy to his left just doesn't know how to react.

00:05:49.300 He's not laughing.

00:05:50.440 This summed it up.

00:05:52.360 This summed it up.

00:05:53.180 Why was this a racial trial?

00:05:56.020 It was a racial trial because OJ obviously did it.

00:06:01.600 So the dream team of lawyers, which included Alan Dershowitz, which included Johnny Cochran,

00:06:07.500 if the glove don't fit, you must acquit, which I guess included Robert Kardashian.

00:06:12.720 Robert Kardashian was part of OJ's dream team of lawyers in large part because he was a friend of OJ.

00:06:17.520 He was going to let his law license lapse, actually.

00:06:20.080 But by joining his legal team, he wouldn't have had to testify against OJ.

00:06:24.660 And he hung around OJ and his murdered wife before she was gone a fair bit and was aware of the tensions in their marriage.

00:06:33.720 So he didn't want to testify against him.

00:06:34.980 So he ends up on the lawyer team.

00:06:36.740 Then they realized the guy was guilty of sin.

00:06:38.820 So the only way that they could possibly win was by making it a racial case and tying it to the Rodney King beating,

00:06:45.860 which was this career criminal who was beaten up by the LAPD.

00:06:48.480 And it worked.

00:06:51.180 It totally worked.

00:06:52.020 In fact, one of the jurors from that case admitted it years later.

00:06:55.300 Said, yeah, we knew basically all of us that he was guilty, but this was kind of our revenge.

00:07:01.080 Do you think that there are members of the jury that voted to acquit OJ because of Rodney King?

00:07:08.360 Yes.

00:07:09.160 You do?

00:07:10.000 Yes.

00:07:10.360 How many of you think felt that way?

00:07:13.300 Oh, probably 90 percent of us.

00:07:18.140 90 percent?

00:07:20.520 Did you feel that way?

00:07:22.060 Yes.

00:07:24.060 That was payback?

00:07:25.700 Uh-huh.

00:07:26.900 You think that's right?

00:07:27.980 Wow, even she won't say that it's right.

00:07:35.600 Just puts her hands in the air.

00:07:36.680 Because obviously it wasn't right.

00:07:37.620 It's a great injustice.

00:07:39.220 It was an injustice to this poor murdered woman. 1.00

00:07:41.280 It was an injustice to her friend, Ron Goldman.

00:07:43.460 It was any miscarriage of justice undermines the broader system of justice. 0.93

00:07:48.880 When the libs say, you know, justice, no one, I forget their stupid slogan, but it's something to the effect of no one will have justice until everyone has justice. 0.87

00:07:58.040 In a way, that's kind of true because justice is just giving to people what they deserve. 0.93

00:08:04.480 So, you know, if people are not getting what they deserve, it throws off the whole system in a body politic.

00:08:09.760 And that is what happened here.

00:08:11.140 And then the cynical playing of the race card set race relations way, way back.

00:08:16.780 It created a lot of anti-cop fervor.

00:08:20.540 And it gave us this term, the N-word.

00:08:23.500 It worsened race relations in as much as there was a rumor that one of the cops, one of the detectives, had said the N-word.

00:08:35.880 He didn't say the N-word.

00:08:36.900 He said the actual word, which you're no longer allowed to say because it's a term that's more taboo than, you know, the ancient Israelites considered the holy name.

00:08:43.520 And they were going to introduce this into evidence.

00:08:47.580 And the prosecutor, the assistant DA, and the judge both said, man, this is catastrophic potentially.

00:09:01.400 This is the nastiest word in the English language.

00:09:04.340 It's so loaded.

00:09:05.280 There's no way that the trial is going to be conducted fairly if that word is introduced.

00:09:09.960 And what's amazing is if you look at coverage of the case and the word before this testimony was introduced.

00:09:22.640 When the New York Times would write about the N-word, they would just write out the word.

00:09:28.660 N-I-G-G-E-R. 1.00

00:09:30.080 You truly, because of this case, you actually can't say this word even in a clinical reporting sense anymore in public.

00:09:38.340 But before it, you could.

00:09:39.600 The New York Times would write this word all the time.

00:09:41.860 After the case, they would never write it anymore.

00:09:43.860 They would only write the euphemism, the N-word.

00:09:47.920 Totally shifted taboos on, not just on race, but on cops, on justice, on criminals, on victims.

00:09:57.040 So what do we do?

00:09:57.660 We should pray for OJ.

00:09:58.540 You should pray for the soul of everyone who died.

00:10:01.360 I guess we pray for his victims too.

00:10:04.580 And pray for Norm, who never got to see the final, the final,

00:10:09.760 I guess he knew how it was going to turn out anyway.

00:10:12.800 And there's a little bit of justice, which is that OJ Simpson can rest peacefully knowing that his wife's killer is now dead as well.

00:10:19.980 Speaking of criminals, NBC News has decided to interview an expert on crime.

00:10:30.140 And that would be Michael Avenatti.

00:10:32.280 Michael Avenatti, remember, Tucker dubbed him the creepy porn lawyer.

00:10:36.040 He represented Stormy Daniels and defrauded her.

00:10:40.820 That's why he's in prison right now.

00:10:43.020 NBC News just days ago brought Michael Avenatti on for his very valuable expert analysis.

00:10:52.340 Avenatti is both central to next week's trial and hard to reach now,

00:10:59.020 even though he was, of course, a media fixture at the height of his work for Stormy Daniels.

00:11:03.900 As Avenatti is a very newsworthy and legally relevant guest,

00:11:07.920 he is speaking out for the first time from prison on the now historic case he helped ignite.

00:11:15.240 Michael, welcome.

00:11:17.060 Well, it's good to hear your voice, Ari.

00:11:18.660 It's good to have you.

00:11:19.780 We have a lot of news to get to.

00:11:21.400 But first, how are you holding up?

00:11:24.560 Well, as Elton John once wrote, I'm still standing, Ari.

00:11:28.480 Okay, enough of this.

00:11:29.760 I don't need to hear any more Michael Avenatti.

00:11:31.320 Okay, I don't need to hear any more Michael Avenatti.

00:11:34.720 And we're here.

00:11:36.120 It's Michael.

00:11:37.660 Good to have you.

00:11:38.500 It's good to hear your voice, Ari.

00:11:40.720 No, it's good.

00:11:41.160 It's good for you to be here.

00:11:42.260 How you doing, buddy? 1.00

00:11:43.660 How you doing, degenerate fraud lawyer who ripped off a hooker? 1.00

00:11:48.820 You psycho. 1.00

00:11:50.680 Yeah, you told, I'm holding up. 1.00

00:11:53.840 All right. 0.66

00:11:54.340 Well, we want to hear your expert legal analysis, you criminal.

00:11:57.260 Well, that is quite the contrast to what we saw out of NBC just a couple of weeks ago

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00:14:54.120 So if you are a degenerate criminal lawyer, I'm not saying like you defend criminals, I mean you're a criminal yourself. 0.98

00:15:00.580 If you rip off hookers, if you go on TV, whore yourself out to every single TV channel, 1.00

00:15:08.160 state a bunch of bogus nonsense for years about the president, none of which ever comes to fruition, 0.99

00:15:13.700 and then get pinched for being a fraud and end up wearing an orange jumpsuit,

00:15:18.280 you will be welcomed onto NBC News with open arms.

00:15:21.200 Please, sir, give us your legal analysis.

00:15:24.300 However, if you run one of the two major political parties in the United States,

00:15:28.640 but that party happens to be the Republican Party, this is how you will be greeted on NBC News.

00:15:34.800 The fact that Ms. McDaniel is on the payroll at NBC News, to me that is inexplicable. 0.97

00:15:42.180 I have some thoughts about Ronna McDaniel and the normalization of the dangerous damned lies from the Republican Party. 0.97

00:15:49.440 She is a co-conspirator and an enabler. 0.98

00:15:51.960 An anti-democracy election denier.

00:15:54.560 She lied to the American people to further the autocratic movement that is Trumpism. 1.00

00:15:58.820 She dropped the Romney from her name, apparently, because Donald Trump hates Mitt Romney. 0.99

00:16:02.200 How does that feel, to change your name to curry favor with a madman?

00:16:07.880 We weren't asked our opinion of the hiring, but if we were, we would have strongly objected to it.

00:16:12.380 And I hope they will reverse their decision.

00:16:14.360 We hope NBC will reconsider its decision.

00:16:17.640 Because if we have to interview the perfectly anodyne head of one of the two major political parties,

00:16:26.120 we won't be able to interview that degenerate criminal from prison anymore, Michael Avenatti.

00:16:31.700 You see Ronna McDaniel in her role articulating Republican policies and priorities. 1.00

00:16:39.200 She is a liar. 0.99

00:16:41.660 How is she a liar? 1.00

00:16:42.800 I don't know.

00:16:43.700 I'm not going to point to any examples of lies.

00:16:45.240 But we can't have liars on this network.

00:16:47.620 Turning now to Michael Avenatti.

00:16:49.680 Are you kidding me?

00:16:54.120 They're not kidding.

00:16:55.380 They obviously don't care about the distinction between lies and the truth.

00:17:00.320 They obviously don't care about credibility when it comes to their experts on the network.

00:17:06.160 They care about one thing.

00:17:07.620 Are you on the team or are you not on the team?

00:17:10.380 All this talk, put Ronna aside for a second. 0.57

00:17:13.060 All this talk about Donald Trump being a criminal.

00:17:15.820 He has 90 plus felonies.

00:17:17.940 He could go to prison for 700 years.

00:17:20.080 He's a criminal threat to our system.

00:17:21.740 They don't care. 0.74

00:17:22.540 They love their criminals.

00:17:23.740 They exalt all their criminals. 0.58

00:17:25.200 Bill Clinton perjured himself.

00:17:27.060 Lost his law license.

00:17:28.620 He wasn't convicted in his impeachment trial.

00:17:30.760 Going back to that aforementioned trial.

00:17:33.800 But all these sorts of criminals, up to and including Michael Avenatti, no big deal.

00:17:41.780 But those criminals are on their team.

00:17:44.900 And Donald Trump, who has not been convicted of any crimes, they're prosecuting him on four

00:17:49.460 different fronts.

00:17:50.060 And they're levying all sorts of ridiculous civil judgments against him to try to bankrupt

00:17:53.620 him so that he can't run for president again in 2024.

00:17:55.860 That guy and anyone even remotely associated with him, including a member of the Romney

00:18:01.580 family who was running the RNC, Ron and McDaniel, they're out.

00:18:06.920 They have to be totally ostracized.

00:18:09.560 Now, speaking of the law, curious little news story just came out of Ohio.

00:18:16.660 Joe Biden might not be on the ballot in Ohio.

00:18:19.180 Ohio has trended pretty Republican in recent years, though there was an expression for a

00:18:24.300 long time in American politics, as goes Ohio, so goes the nation, that Ohio actually was

00:18:29.740 up for grabs.

00:18:31.100 Joe Biden might not be on the ballot there.

00:18:33.620 According to Frank LaRose, Ohio Secretary of State, the DNC, the Democratic National Convention,

00:18:41.640 will occur after the Ohio state deadline to certify candidates.

00:18:45.720 Meaning, if they pick their nominee after that deadline, their nominee might not make

00:18:51.500 it to the ballot.

00:18:52.940 So LaRose, the Secretary of State, sends this letter to Democrats saying, hey guys, you got

00:18:57.040 to fix this because I'm just giving you a fair warning.

00:19:00.160 You obviously have your nominee.

00:19:01.380 I don't think it's going to be nominee Marianne Williamson.

00:19:03.520 Well, just to let you know, you got to follow the law.

00:19:07.100 And right now, your Democratic National Convention is out of compliance with Ohio state law.

00:19:11.000 It's not just Ohio, Alabama too, although Joe Biden will never win Alabama.

00:19:16.640 There's not even a chance of that happening, so it matters a little bit less.

00:19:19.200 But Biden could be off the ballot in Alabama too, according to the election chief in that

00:19:23.360 state, because the state certification deadline comes several days before the DNC.

00:19:29.620 So the Biden campaign has responded to this, and they've said, pish posh, no big deal.

00:19:33.780 They've dismissed it out of hand.

00:19:34.740 They say, state officials have the ability to grant provisional ballot access certification

00:19:38.600 prior to the conclusion of presidential nominating conventions.

00:19:42.080 In 2020 alone, states like Alabama, Illinois, Montana, and Washington all allowed provisional

00:19:46.800 certification for Democratic and Republican nominees.

00:19:51.480 Okay, so they're saying, look, whatever, the law is the law, but you guys can brush aside

00:19:55.920 the law in cases like this, so that's what you should do here.

00:19:58.980 Okay, but I think we got a Republican Secretary of State in Ohio, don't we?

00:20:02.920 Yeah, and I think, correct me if I'm wrong, I think the Democrats have been trying to kick

00:20:09.500 Donald Trump off the ballot for way more preposterous reasons in a number of different states.

00:20:18.000 Here, we have a perfectly justifiable legal reason why Biden might not make it to the ballot.

00:20:25.660 Why would we just give it to him?

00:20:27.840 Can you explain to me why we would just give it to him?

00:20:29.960 Well, the Democrats are doing every single thing they can to subvert this election.

00:20:34.260 They are prosecuting Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, the former president,

00:20:38.220 and leader of the party ever since he was the former president on four different fronts.

00:20:42.680 They're then levying civil judgments against him to bankrupt him so he can't run for president.

00:20:46.720 They're then trying to kick him off the ballot in multiple states all around the country

00:20:50.020 because they're so afraid that if he's on the ballot, people are going to vote for him.

00:20:52.860 They're so afraid that if he's got a dollar to his name and he's not wearing an orange jumpsuit,

00:20:55.960 people are going to elect this guy.

00:20:56.980 They're doing everything they can to subvert our constitutional order to keep the man off the ballot.

00:21:03.100 And then the Biden campaign says, hey, by the way, can we have a freebie in Ohio?

00:21:06.740 You'll let it.

00:21:07.320 You'll give us a freebie, right?

00:21:09.060 You'll put us on the ballot even though legally we don't meet the requirements, right?

00:21:14.000 Republicans are just supposed to say, oh, yes, of course.

00:21:16.000 Of course we'll do you that favor.

00:21:18.100 Oh, that's just, you know, that's in keeping with the norms and standards.

00:21:20.700 What norms and standards?

00:21:21.720 Democrats have blown up the norms and standards.

00:21:23.240 If you asked me two years ago, I guess I would have said, yeah, okay, that's fine.

00:21:27.400 Sure, why not?

00:21:28.340 Whatever.

00:21:28.700 So put them on the ballot.

00:21:30.800 When we had different norms and standards, the Democrats chose to blow that up.

00:21:33.900 You can't just allow that to occur without any consequences to them.

00:21:37.600 That creates a very perverse incentive for the Democrats to continue to undermine our electoral process.

00:21:43.200 All I'll say, and I'm not going to give any particular specific prescriptions, Democrats should squeeze this Ohio issue for all it's worth.

00:21:52.680 That's what, or rather the Republicans should squeeze the Democrats on this Ohio issue for all that it is worth.

00:21:58.060 Now, speaking of maximizing votes, President Trump has a view of the Jews in America who even today are voting for Joe Biden.

00:22:09.580 Biden has totally lost control of the Israel situation.

00:22:15.300 He has abandoned Israel. 0.68

00:22:16.840 He's totally abandoned Israel. 0.81

00:22:18.840 And frankly, you know, he's a low IQ individual.

00:22:22.120 He has no idea where he is and who he's supporting.

00:22:24.980 He doesn't know if he's supporting the Palestinians, but he knows one thing.

00:22:28.820 He is not supporting Israel.

00:22:30.280 He has abandoned Israel. 0.68

00:22:32.520 And any Jewish person that votes for a Democrat or votes for Biden should have their head examined. 0.97

00:22:37.860 Yeah, fair enough.

00:22:40.780 That's fine by me. 0.97

00:22:41.740 The comparison here will be with Joe Biden's quote, which is, if you're black and you're not voting for me, you ain't black. 0.80

00:22:50.360 But it's actually a little bit of a different statement.

00:22:53.060 Joe Biden is saying that black identity is contingent upon voting for Democrats.

00:22:58.920 That you lose your racial identity if you are black, but you vote for a Republican, which is much less true and much more offensive than what Trump said here about Jews.

00:23:13.380 Trump just said, hey, I'm good for the Jews. 0.92

00:23:16.700 Biden's bad for the Jews. 1.00

00:23:17.860 If you're a Jew and you're voting for Joe Biden, who hates the Jews and specifically hates the Jewish state, apparently, you're crazy. 1.00

00:23:27.320 You should have your head examined. 1.00

00:23:29.360 That is not quite as offensive.

00:23:33.000 And it's probably true. 0.62

00:23:36.000 Joe Biden is the guy who's leading the party where they're marching with the Palestinian flags in support of Hamas against the Jews.

00:23:44.120 River to the sea. 1.00

00:23:45.080 Wipe out all the Jews. 1.00

00:23:46.280 Palestine will be free. 1.00

00:23:47.960 That's Biden's party.

00:23:50.240 And so Trump's saying, look, they have a town named after me in Israel.

00:23:53.540 OK, I got the Abraham Accords. 0.87

00:23:55.300 I'm a great defender of the Jewish state.

00:23:57.200 And Bibi Netanyahu loves me. 0.97

00:23:58.540 If you're a Jew and you're still voting for that guy, you're out of your mind. 1.00

00:24:02.680 And that statement, it's not only semantically not the same thing as what Joe Biden said about black people, but it's also probably true. 0.99

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00:26:56.020 My favorite comment yesterday is from David Winokur2131, who says,

00:27:01.600 the UK wants to ban smartphones for minors.

00:27:04.820 Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

00:27:08.640 I didn't say that right.

00:27:09.740 Hold on.

00:27:10.000 Can you go back to that comment?

00:27:11.640 I didn't say that right.

00:27:12.920 Because I've never heard that aphorism before.

00:27:14.900 And I conclude that it must be a British idiom.

00:27:20.180 The UK wants to ban smartphones for minors there, governor.

00:27:24.020 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:24.860 Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.

00:27:27.740 I don't know why I went straight to Michael Caine for that.

00:27:29.760 But I like that.

00:27:30.340 Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

00:27:34.640 Okay.

00:27:35.060 Speaking of the Jews and US government policy, the US position, the Biden administration

00:27:42.140 position on Israel is becoming clearer and clearer.

00:27:47.980 It has to become clearer because the war is really coming to a head.

00:27:51.880 Is this war going to end?

00:27:53.000 Is it going to launch into a brand new wave of offensives?

00:27:56.640 What is the US going to do about it?

00:27:58.320 Since the US is the defender of the state of Israel and we fund a lot of the Israeli military

00:28:03.800 and we're the global hegemon.

00:28:05.760 What is the position?

00:28:06.860 Biden's caught between a rock and a hard place because Biden's establishment class,

00:28:11.340 his donor class, supports the state of Israel broadly.

00:28:15.280 The Democratic base hates the state of Israel and supports Palestine liberation and Hamas

00:28:20.340 broadly.

00:28:21.520 So what's he going to do?

00:28:24.200 Is he going to side with the establishment and the donors or is he going to side with

00:28:28.380 the wackos in the street? 1.00

00:28:30.840 According to John Kirby, the national security spokesman for the president,

00:28:34.440 they're going to take a little bit of a tougher line against the state of Israel.

00:28:40.280 Now, Kirby was asked if we're not applying a double standard here to the state of Israel.

00:28:46.040 Are we not blaming the state of Israel for doing things that we ourselves do in the United

00:28:51.960 States with impunity?

00:28:54.120 So there were seven children that were killed by that US Hellfire missile.

00:28:58.740 Yeah.

00:28:59.100 No accountability, you said, was part of the plan.

00:29:02.100 So why is this so different than what we did there?

00:29:05.420 Well, look, these are events that happened three years apart, two different geographic

00:29:10.200 locations, two different countries, two different sets of circumstances, two different types of

00:29:14.540 threat that were being evaluated, and completely two different militaries that were involved

00:29:18.300 with two different chains of command.

00:29:19.660 So I think we've got to be careful comparing both events too closely.

00:29:23.960 We, too, had an independent investigation, Martha, of that incident.

00:29:27.800 And that independent investigator found that there was no need for personal accountability

00:29:33.700 to be had, but did find that the US military needed to make some systemic changes, procedural

00:29:39.460 changes in how we looked at intelligence and acted on that intelligence.

00:29:43.340 The Israelis, similarly, have said the same thing about this event this week with the WCK

00:29:48.980 strike, that they're going to make some systemic changes.

00:29:51.400 Now, we're glad to hear that.

00:29:53.380 And we're going to be watching to see what those changes are and how they can put them into

00:29:57.000 effect.

00:29:58.060 But these are two different events.

00:29:59.800 They're not that different, though, John.

00:30:01.720 Love Martha McCallum here.

00:30:03.700 John, they're actually not that different.

00:30:05.140 The comparison she's making here, she says, okay, the US in a hellfire missile strike killed

00:30:12.380 seven kids.

00:30:13.120 It was a bad strike. 1.00

00:30:14.040 It was a dumb strike. 0.99

00:30:14.900 It killed innocent people, not even as collateral damage. 0.99

00:30:17.860 They just, I mean, it was technically collateral damage in that we killed civilians in a war

00:30:24.400 scenario, but it was just a bad strike.

00:30:29.080 And the Israelis killed a bunch of aid workers in a bad strike.

00:30:34.440 So why is it the worst thing in the world when they do it?

00:30:37.240 But it's really sort of fine when we do it.

00:30:39.460 And Kirby says, oh, it's totally different.

00:30:41.440 It's totally different here, you see, because it's different wars.

00:30:43.700 It's different countries.

00:30:44.460 It was different this.

00:30:45.040 It was different that.

00:30:45.440 And what he's trying to express, but trying to avoid saying explicitly, is it's different

00:30:52.800 because we're America and they're Israel. 0.63

00:30:55.140 It's different because they're this country in the Middle East that's a tiny little country 1.00

00:30:59.000 that is totally dependent on us for its very existence.

00:31:02.380 And so we get to call the shots and they're not playing ball with us anymore.

00:31:05.220 And we're America.

00:31:06.160 We're the global hegemon and we do whatever the hell we want.

00:31:09.000 That's basically what he's saying.

00:31:10.940 But it doesn't sound good when it comes out that way.

00:31:13.700 Okay, so that's his argument.

00:31:16.340 I make these observations, by the way, as someone who I think has been pretty fair on

00:31:22.060 the Israel-Palestine conflict.

00:31:23.560 I mean, there's some people on the left and even on the right who are basically growing

00:31:26.760 out long beards and marching with the pro-Hamas people in the street.

00:31:30.240 I'm certainly not that.

00:31:31.580 There are also some people who say that the state of Israel can do no wrong and they have

00:31:34.740 impunity to just level any neighborhoods they want.

00:31:38.840 I also do not agree with that.

00:31:40.740 I think that in war, one has to consider the principles that justify war, both in going

00:31:47.920 to war and in conducting a war.

00:31:50.240 And I think most people generally agree that Israel was justified in going to war in Gaza 0.98

00:31:54.140 after the attack on October 7th of last year.

00:31:56.880 But there is a perfectly open debate over whether or not the state of Israel is still justified

00:32:03.460 in the conduct of the war.

00:32:05.720 And in fact, I've raised some fairly pointed questions about that, given the decreasing

00:32:12.300 likelihood that Israel will be able to achieve its ultimate war aim, which is to oust Hamas 0.64

00:32:17.460 in Gaza, and also given that if there is no reasonable probability of success, then the

00:32:23.800 justification by proportionality disappears for the state of Israel.

00:32:27.920 So it's not like I'm saying the pro-Palestinian side has absolutely no gripes whatsoever.

00:32:36.360 It's not as I'm saying there shouldn't be some winding down of this war.

00:32:39.580 But it is simply an inescapable fact.

00:32:44.380 The Biden administration is against the state of Israel right now, and I think has become

00:32:49.380 unfairly against the state of Israel.

00:32:51.380 And I think the Biden administration is walking that tightrope.

00:32:54.900 Had this war taken place two years ago, I think the Biden administration would probably

00:32:59.320 be much more pro-Israel.

00:33:01.260 But they're afraid that their base right now is totally anti-Israel, and their base is totally

00:33:06.180 in favor of pro-Palestine liberation.

00:33:07.800 And Joe Biden doesn't want to lose those votes.

00:33:09.780 So he's more willing to irritate some of the donors in the establishment class than he is

00:33:15.360 to irritate the base.

00:33:18.140 And so Donald Trump comes out, and he says, look, I'm the pro-Israel candidate.

00:33:22.580 And there are going to be people on the right who are not pro-Israel, especially now as this

00:33:25.700 war drags on for six months, public opinion of the state of Israel and public support for

00:33:30.100 this war is diminishing.

00:33:31.640 That's just what happens in times of war.

00:33:33.120 Don't forget what happened during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, how quickly support

00:33:37.220 for the American position in that war diminished, even here in the United States.

00:33:41.480 So that's going to happen.

00:33:42.780 It's a little bit of a gamble for Trump, too.

00:33:44.700 But I think the two parties have made it clear.

00:33:47.800 If you're pro-Israel, you vote for Trump. 0.90

00:33:49.780 If you're anti-Israel, pro-Palestine liberation, whatever, you vote for Joe Biden.

00:33:55.360 Now, speaking of that war and foreign affairs and whether it's going to end or heat up,

00:33:59.640 I said on the show, I think it was last week, I said, look, the war basically has to wind

00:34:07.200 down.

00:34:07.600 It has to come to an end.

00:34:08.600 If the Israeli intelligence leaks are to be believed, if it is the case that they no longer

00:34:15.460 believe that they can oust Hamas in Gaza, and even if they predicate that on the loss

00:34:20.180 of U.S. support and the U.S. loss of U.S. support is real, then the war just has to end.

00:34:24.700 There's no way for it to continue.

00:34:28.300 Days later, Bibi Netanyahu calls my bluff or calls the bluff of a lot of analysts in

00:34:34.960 the state of Israel and in the United States and elsewhere in the world and says, no, we

00:34:38.280 are going into Rafah, this last stronghold of Hamas in southern Gaza.

00:34:42.800 We are going in.

00:34:43.820 We have set a date for the invasion.

00:34:45.580 It is happening over the objections of the Biden administration, over the objections

00:34:50.180 of the international community, over the objections of apparently even some of the Israeli intelligence

00:34:55.360 analysts who are saying that it's not actually going to do anything.

00:34:58.080 It's not going to work.

00:35:00.920 Does that mean it's really going to happen?

00:35:02.400 I don't know.

00:35:03.200 It certainly means that this is one of Bibi Netanyahu's only two choices.

00:35:09.860 This is coming to a head.

00:35:11.820 He either has to wind down the whole war, and he had started to move troops out of Gaza,

00:35:16.560 so it seemed to signal that he was just going to retreat and wind down the war, or he's

00:35:20.700 just got to go full bore very quickly and risk international and American condemnation.

00:35:26.480 But Bibi Netanyahu's caught between a rock and a hard place too, just as Joe Biden is.

00:35:31.860 There were thousands and thousands of people demonstrating in Tel Aviv against his government

00:35:36.620 just days ago, and his conduct of the war.

00:35:40.800 Plus, he's using support of his biggest state sponsor, the United States, which funds

00:35:43.980 six and a half percent of the Israeli military.

00:35:48.040 Will the invasion actually take place?

00:35:52.420 If I were in his shoes, I don't know what I would do.

00:35:54.640 He is in a virtually impossible position.

00:35:57.800 He can either end the war.

00:35:59.140 He can either go into Rafat.

00:36:00.520 The one thing that probably cannot continue is the status quo of this war, of just the 0.99

00:36:06.740 kind of constant, slow, dragging this out.

00:36:10.540 At a certain point, especially in an American election year, there's going to be a lot more

00:36:14.980 pressure, even than there currently is on Bibi Netanyahu, to pick a strategy and roll with it.

00:36:21.300 Now, speaking of a tough political environment for national leaders, on the domestic front,

00:36:27.000 all of this might be immaterial.

00:36:30.760 The war in the Middle East, the war in Ukraine, frankly, even the immigration crisis might become

00:36:36.300 less significant because inflation is back.

00:36:40.220 Inflation is really, really bad right now.

00:36:42.520 The price of rent and other shelter costs has jumped more than 5% since March of last year.

00:36:50.080 Rent of primary residence up over 5.5%.

00:36:52.600 Owners' equivalent rent up almost 6%.

00:36:56.780 Water and sewer maintenance up over 5%.

00:36:58.940 Garbage and trash collection, almost 6%.

00:37:00.940 Electricity over 5%.

00:37:02.660 Repair of household items up 18%.

00:37:05.200 Homeowners and renters insurance up over 4.5%.

00:37:08.340 It's so bad, even CNN is admitting that the inflation problem is brutal.

00:37:13.400 Poor inflation, which is a better indicator of sort of what's happening with underlying inflation,

00:37:18.760 that also picked up.

00:37:20.160 So, taking a look at some of the categories we saw in the month of March that continue to increase.

00:37:24.920 So, gas prices, that was a pretty big contributor here, right?

00:37:28.220 It was really gas and shelter, I should say, that contributed to more than half of the increase.

00:37:33.280 I mean, has shelter gone down at all?

00:37:34.720 I mean, I can't even remember a month where it's actually gone.

00:37:36.840 We've seen a decrease, right?

00:37:37.560 It's a really important point.

00:37:38.980 It hasn't.

00:37:39.800 And so, we had been hoping, actually, because if you think about shelter, if you think about rents,

00:37:43.640 for example, 12-month leases, we were hoping that this was a lagging indicator,

00:37:47.520 that we would actually start to get some progress with shelter, but that didn't happen.

00:37:53.140 But that didn't happen, did it, Joe Biden?

00:37:55.140 It didn't happen.

00:37:55.880 And so, all of these extraneous political issues probably are going to diminish in their importance

00:38:04.240 because everybody knows when they go to the grocery store how expensive milk is.

00:38:10.900 Everybody knows when they write that rent check or when they fill out their bills for household repairs

00:38:18.220 and maintenance and just all the ordinary stuff of life.

00:38:20.680 They can see if that's getting a little better or if that's getting a little worse.

00:38:24.640 And bad news for Biden, good news for the conservatives is it's getting a lot worse.

00:38:29.860 Now, it's going to be bad news for the conservatives if it doesn't lead to any kind of political change.

00:38:33.500 Then it's going to be especially bad for all of us.

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00:39:50.200 Hello, Michael.

00:39:51.940 Dorian from Portland, Oregon here.

00:39:54.640 50 years young and a card-carrying member of Generation X.

00:39:59.420 So if I ever hit you with any classic Generation X sarcasm, deal with it.

00:40:05.220 Anyway, I know your feelings on IVF and surrogacy, but where do you stand on adoption?

00:40:13.000 Given the fact that newborn babies outnumber childless couples by roughly 36 to 1,

00:40:19.200 I can see that as a viable alternative to IVF and also an alternative to abortion for unplanned

00:40:25.300 pregnancies.

00:40:26.780 Hope to hear from you.

00:40:27.820 Thanks much.

00:40:28.320 Great question.

00:40:29.920 Obviously, very in favor of adoption.

00:40:32.820 And you've raised an important aspect of why the surrogacy industry and IVF generally

00:40:37.220 are so disordered and have so many unfortunate consequences.

00:40:42.280 One of the consequences of the promotion of the surrogacy industry and IVF is that adoption

00:40:49.240 will go away. 0.71

00:40:50.640 And babies who are available to be adopted won't find homes because people are going to

00:40:58.300 go spend $100,000 and make their own kid in a test tube, or a couple of men are going to 0.66

00:41:02.000 go purchase an egg and rent out a womb and make their own designer baby rather than adopt 1.00

00:41:07.580 someone else's baby who is in need.

00:41:09.260 What is the difference here?

00:41:10.900 I've said that my opposition to the surrogacy industry and IVF comes from the fact that the

00:41:17.620 only person who can legitimately be said to have rights in the matter of procreation is

00:41:23.800 the child who has a right to be born of the specific conjugal act of his mother and father

00:41:28.880 who are together in holy matrimony.

00:41:32.400 What does that mean for something like adoption?

00:41:35.440 It means that adoption helps to rectify an injustice.

00:41:42.400 Adoption helps to rectify a social problem.

00:41:45.100 Children born out of wedlock in bad circumstances with parents who are not able to care for

00:41:50.120 them.

00:41:50.640 And even that, by the way, the mothers going through and having the baby and not killing

00:41:55.480 the baby, say, through abortion, that is a wonderful and laudable thing.

00:41:58.620 But some of those mothers are not able then to take care of the baby themselves.

00:42:01.740 And then adoption comes in and helps to rectify that problem.

00:42:04.240 And it results in an abundance of grace.

00:42:07.200 And it's just a wonderful and charitable way to help rectify social problems in this fallen

00:42:13.900 world.

00:42:15.220 IVF and the surrogacy industry totally gut that.

00:42:19.240 And they turn it.

00:42:20.400 They say, no, actually, the baby doesn't really have any rights.

00:42:22.480 Babies are just objects to be bought and sold on a market.

00:42:25.820 Go to the baby store.

00:42:26.860 You design your baby. 1.00

00:42:27.900 Then most of the babies you create, you just kind of leave in a freezer or you kill them 1.00

00:42:31.320 through abortion. 0.92

00:42:31.840 But you pick up one or two, and then you use those.

00:42:35.740 And then maybe I want one boy and one girl, and the others, you know, it's too bad.

00:42:39.740 And then you give birth to this baby.

00:42:41.440 Or you, you know, purchase a mother's egg, and you intentionally deprive that child of

00:42:45.720 his natural mother.

00:42:46.460 And you sell the baby to a couple of men or a couple of women or a single mother or whatever

00:42:49.780 it is, even a single father maybe.

00:42:51.660 It's totally inverted.

00:42:52.800 And it says that all the rights are on the side of the would-be parents.

00:42:57.440 It's the adults here of a right to a child.

00:43:00.340 The right to own a child, to possess a child, to do with a child as they please, according

00:43:04.520 to their own whims and fancies, rather than the right of a child, a right that comes from

00:43:09.860 nature to be the product of his mother's and father's specific conjugal act, a right that

00:43:17.280 comes from our very human nature.

00:43:20.500 Really, really ugly inversion.

00:43:23.080 And you've drawn a great deal of attention to one of the many unfortunate consequences.

00:43:28.220 Okay, next question.

00:43:28.940 Hey Michael, my name is Dylan Wagner.

00:43:32.280 I had something of a multi-part question, but first I want to thank you for everything

00:43:36.120 you do.

00:43:37.180 You are willing to address the principles at the heart of problems, which is often the

00:43:41.600 most controversial aspect.

00:43:43.560 Further, you are the most philosophically educated and consistent host on The Daily Wire.

00:43:48.900 And finally, you have greatly contributed to my conversion to Catholicism.

00:43:53.060 And you are certainly one of the people I must thank for getting me to confirmation on

00:43:56.700 Easter Vigil just a few weeks ago.

00:43:58.500 Put a pause there.

00:43:59.680 We put a pause in the question.

00:44:00.580 Now what's my actual questions?

00:44:01.600 I'm not that handsome.

00:44:02.720 Come on, get out of here. 1.00

00:44:03.880 Stop it.

00:44:04.340 Sorry.

00:44:04.620 I just, all those lovely compliments.

00:44:06.520 I had to jump in and stop it.

00:44:09.360 I'm not that, come on.

00:44:10.640 My jawline's not that chiseled.

00:44:12.080 Okay, sorry.

00:44:12.540 Go on.

00:44:12.820 I was wondering what your opinion of monarchy is.

00:44:15.800 I find myself increasingly seeing it as a viable or even ideal form of government.

00:44:20.460 Forgive me for that voice crack.

00:44:22.940 Do you hold either of these views?

00:44:25.480 If you see monarchy as a viable form of government, what kind of monarchy do you find to be the

00:44:29.680 best option?

00:44:31.360 Elective or appointed monarchies or hereditary monarchies?

00:44:35.600 Absolute governments and semi-absolute governments limited or something else?

00:44:38.860 Is there a monarchical government in history you find to be the closest to the ideal?

00:44:44.020 Finally, what political philosophers do you recommend?

00:44:47.220 Do you recommend Edmund Burke or Joseph de Maestra or Plato or Aristotle or Augustine

00:44:52.320 or Aquinas or someone else?

00:44:54.300 Again, thank you for everything you do and have a blessed day.

00:44:57.980 Marvelous question.

00:44:59.880 Recommend all of the above with those political philosophers.

00:45:02.660 They're all terrific.

00:45:03.520 And then one who I mention a fair bit and who is often not thought of as a political philosopher

00:45:08.840 but who has a lot to say specifically on the question of monarchy is Dante, who writes

00:45:14.840 a book called Monarchy, which is really great and worth reading.

00:45:19.360 You ask, is monarchy a viable form of government?

00:45:23.640 The answer to that is obviously yes.

00:45:26.660 Many, if not most, governments throughout history have been monarchies.

00:45:30.280 It's one of the three main forms of government that could be considered a good form of government.

00:45:37.900 The other two being aristocracy and democracy.

00:45:42.500 Now, as I've mentioned on the show before, in Polybius' view of these three types of regime,

00:45:48.820 they have their kind of dark version too.

00:45:52.280 So the dark version of monarchy is tyranny.

00:45:55.500 Dark version of aristocracy is oligarchy.

00:45:57.320 And the dark version of democracy is mob rule.

00:46:00.840 And the reason I bring up Polybius here, I mean, Dante has a lot to say about monarchy

00:46:05.300 and the specific advantages of monarchy.

00:46:07.920 And you ask for a good example of a monarch, probably a Christian would say the best example

00:46:13.740 of monarchy in history is under the reign of Caesar Augustus.

00:46:17.040 And the evidence of this is that that is the fullness of time in which our Lord chooses

00:46:20.640 to become incarnate.

00:46:21.720 And this gives us the broad piece of the Pax Romana, when for all intents and purposes,

00:46:27.520 the Romans had conquered the world.

00:46:29.840 So enough there about monarchy in particular.

00:46:34.180 Pulling back to Polybius, the importance for people who are really averse to monarchy or

00:46:40.220 really averse to aristocracy, or even people who are very averse to democracy.

00:46:43.620 In fact, our founding fathers had a lot of skepticism of democracy.

00:46:48.120 Something to remember about Polybius' view is that he understood there to be a cycle of

00:46:53.060 regimes.

00:46:53.580 So, you know, you might say, well, I prefer democracy to monarchy or to aristocracy.

00:47:00.920 Okay, well, what happens when your democracy decays?

00:47:04.680 What happens then?

00:47:05.820 I mean, don't forget to use the example of Caesar.

00:47:08.800 The Roman Republic had become so deeply corrupt that Julius Caesar was the hero. 0.85

00:47:15.780 The people loved Julius Caesar.

00:47:17.200 He was the virtuous figure compared to the extremely corrupt people who were running the

00:47:23.840 Roman Republic.

00:47:25.040 In modernity, we've kind of changed the story here.

00:47:28.400 And we pretend that, you know, Caesar was sort of a villain.

00:47:31.500 But he really wasn't.

00:47:32.760 You think Caesar was bad.

00:47:33.980 Just wait until you hear about who was running the Republic.

00:47:36.180 It was really, really nasty.

00:47:37.860 So this is the problem.

00:47:39.020 A lot of people are beginning to worry that this is set in a little bit in America.

00:47:42.820 America, that republics, democracies can be really beautiful and wonderful things.

00:47:48.040 But if they become corrupted and they turn away from the common good and only focus on

00:47:52.280 self-interest, then they just naturally can kind of decay into an oligarchy.

00:47:58.080 Many people describe the American form of government today as an oligarchy or into a kind of form

00:48:02.380 of tyranny and at the very least into a form of a self-interested factionalism, which means

00:48:09.360 that necessarily it's going to change into something else because no political regime

00:48:15.340 is eternal in this fallen world.

00:48:19.820 Next one.

00:48:21.360 Hey, Michael.

00:48:22.440 In listening to the show last week, I was intrigued when you spoke about the petty narcissism

00:48:26.400 of small differences.

00:48:27.640 As a conservative journalist who does not openly discuss his political leanings because it is

00:48:32.120 immaterial to my job as a sports reporter, I've not had to deal with any ladyballers yet. 1.00

00:48:36.600 I have recently run afoul of a fringe right-wing group who does police audits online.

00:48:42.620 I earned myself an attempted smear campaign on X by critiquing their disrespectful treatment

00:48:47.520 of police officers.

00:48:49.100 My question is, how do we offer honest critiques of those we share only small differences without

00:48:53.700 looking like we are a part of the other side of the debate?

00:48:56.480 Thank you for taking my question.

00:48:58.320 You just have to focus on the issue.

00:49:01.280 Don't focus on the people.

00:49:02.740 One of the most insidious temptations of the petty narcissism of small differences is that

00:49:09.540 you are really just focusing on the other person because the other person is a threat

00:49:15.100 to your position and to your influence.

00:49:17.500 So it becomes very, very personal.

00:49:21.100 You should try to avoid that.

00:49:22.220 I mean, our old friend Rene Girard would have a lot to say about this in the theory of mimesis

00:49:29.000 and how we imitate one another in our actions and our speech and our desires even, and that

00:49:33.920 this creates an emerging and building hostility until there's a war of all against all and

00:49:39.920 we need to find a scapegoat to cast that kind of tension out of the political community. 0.93

00:49:46.620 So one way to try to mitigate that is to focus not on the person, but on the issue.

00:49:51.280 If a person has a slightly different take on a policy than you do, focus on the difference.

00:50:00.400 You know, don't focus on the self, which is where the petty narcissism comes in, but focus

00:50:05.080 actually on the small difference and try to get precise about it.

00:50:07.720 It probably won't work and you'll probably just end up, you know, slugging it out with

00:50:10.660 one another, but that would be the best strategy to avoid it.

00:50:13.880 The rest of the show continues now.

00:50:15.240 It's Fake Headline Friday, baby.

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00:50:49.160 I've got a book.

00:50:50.260 Isable permitir to attach to the machine or to enter your mind with the access to the correct

00:51:02.660 item.

00:51:03.360 I'll say whether they want to update the Thomas really to approve them if they decide to

00:51:04.600 that they'll watch the final and see them on the screen.

00:51:08.260 So thank you for both of you.

00:51:10.000 Thanks for taking care of these questions, см Spontauts.

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The Michael Knowles Show - April 12, 2024

Ep. 1467 - O.J. Simpson Deathbed Revelations

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