The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 148 - What I Saw In Baghwan’s Sex Cult ft. Bridget Phetasy

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00:00:58.660 But first, we have Bridget Phetasy in studio,

00:01:02.300 writes for The Federalist and Playboy,

00:01:04.440 and spent time in the very sex cult featured in Wild Wild Country.

00:01:09.440 I'm Michael Knowles, and this is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:03:55.340 Okay, we've got to get right into this.

00:03:56.880 I want to jump right into the sex cults.

00:03:58.660 If you haven't seen this,

00:03:59.820 I think this is the biggest show on Netflix right now.

00:04:02.120 Wild Wild Country.

00:04:04.080 It's about the Rajneeshi cult that was in Oregon

00:04:07.200 and they took over a city basically

00:04:09.280 and they all wore orange or red

00:04:11.640 and had a lot of sex

00:04:12.680 and followed this crazy Indian guy.

00:04:14.460 If you haven't seen it,

00:04:15.380 here's just a little bit of the trailer.

00:04:17.240 Everybody felt they were there

00:04:19.540 at the beginning of the great experiment.

00:04:23.040 Like we were the chosen people.

00:04:24.960 A prominent Indian guru

00:04:26.780 and his followers bought it.

00:04:29.640 Bhagwan's agenda was simply

00:04:31.480 to raise the consciousness of humanity.

00:04:34.360 That was his goal.

00:04:35.940 They're run by satanic power.

00:04:37.820 There is talk of vigilantes

00:04:39.120 who may seek revenge on the Rajneeshis.

00:04:42.980 If I didn't take measures

00:04:45.560 to protect our community,

00:04:48.180 kill me!

00:04:49.220 No one else would do it.

00:04:50.960 We call upon the governor

00:04:52.340 to disarm this cult's army now.

00:04:55.220 Who would poison a whole town?

00:04:56.900 The Rajneeshis.

00:04:57.960 They were facing immigration fraud,

00:04:59.740 smuggling.

00:05:00.500 The Rajneeshis came this close

00:05:02.420 to murdering a presidential appointee.

00:05:04.560 There's darkness in all of us.

00:05:06.960 The day is coming.

00:05:09.720 Doesn't make you a bad person.

00:05:10.920 That menacing laugh at the end.

00:05:18.060 That is the Rajneeshi cult.

00:05:20.880 And coincidentally,

00:05:21.680 you might have seen Bridget Phetasy.

00:05:23.140 You might have read her writing

00:05:24.160 on The Federalist or Playboy.com,

00:05:26.520 which I only read for the articles.

00:05:28.560 You might have seen her there.

00:05:29.560 I think Bridget is actually the only person

00:05:31.180 that writes for both The Federalist

00:05:33.180 and Playboy.com.

00:05:35.100 Before her, it was just Bill Buckley.

00:05:37.160 Coincidentally, Bridget actually spent

00:05:39.140 about a month on a Rajneeshi sex cult

00:05:42.680 in Australia.

00:05:43.900 Not the one in Oregon,

00:05:44.800 but they have these all over the world

00:05:45.940 and she spent it on one in Australia.

00:05:48.580 We're joined right now by Bridget Phetasy.

00:05:51.000 Bridget, thank you for being here.

00:05:52.000 Thank you for having me.

00:05:53.640 So you...

00:05:54.200 It's my wheelhouse.

00:05:55.060 We, you know, I love your writing.

00:05:56.860 Thank you.

00:05:57.760 Coincidentally, you happen to experience

00:05:59.720 probably the biggest TV phenomenon

00:06:01.760 in person, up close,

00:06:03.840 maybe up a little too close.

00:06:04.960 I didn't think I would ask this question

00:06:08.460 on The Michael Knowles Show.

00:06:10.500 What made you join a sex cult?

00:06:13.400 It was an accident.

00:06:14.860 It wasn't intentional.

00:06:16.000 That's what they all say, Bridget, you know.

00:06:18.480 It was an accident for a month.

00:06:22.020 I was traveling.

00:06:23.700 I had booked a one-way ticket

00:06:25.980 and just wanted to put a backpack on

00:06:28.940 and travel.

00:06:30.060 And I went with this guy

00:06:32.980 that I had met in Sydney.

00:06:34.280 We went up to the coast

00:06:35.540 and it was their holidays

00:06:36.920 and he assured me

00:06:38.280 that there would be a place to stay

00:06:39.860 in Byron Bay.

00:06:41.140 And I got there

00:06:42.080 and there was nowhere to stay

00:06:43.180 and he was having a boys' weekend.

00:06:44.460 So he, being not a gentleman,

00:06:47.020 was basically like,

00:06:48.140 you're on your own, girl.

00:06:49.220 I just met.

00:06:50.080 Bridget, I don't know if that's not...

00:06:52.220 Like, just being not a gentleman.

00:06:53.600 Like, if I'm not a gentleman,

00:06:54.640 maybe I don't pick up the tab

00:06:55.620 at dinner or something.

00:06:56.400 But I've never ditched my date

00:06:58.920 for a sex cult.

00:07:01.280 And so I ended up looking on Woofing.

00:07:05.200 I was subscribed to all these different sites

00:07:07.020 like Couchsurfing and Woofing

00:07:08.500 and I looked on Woofing

00:07:10.600 and they had an ad for...

00:07:12.260 It was just like a spiritual retreat

00:07:14.020 is what they called it.

00:07:15.160 And Woofing is...

00:07:15.500 That's the organic farm.

00:07:16.380 Woofing is worldwide organic farming.

00:07:18.480 If you're traveling on a budget,

00:07:20.060 it's a great way to go around

00:07:21.860 and you work four hours a day

00:07:23.520 for somebody on a farm

00:07:24.820 and then you can go do whatever you want.

00:07:27.320 If you're...

00:07:28.440 It's a good way to get around the world

00:07:30.160 in places like Chile

00:07:31.360 and New Zealand in particular

00:07:32.700 and Australia.

00:07:35.080 And then I was like,

00:07:36.020 oh, a spiritual retreat.

00:07:37.020 That sounds, you know, harmless enough.

00:07:39.940 And I went and they said,

00:07:43.640 oh, there's a car in town right now

00:07:45.280 getting supplies.

00:07:46.220 We can pick you up today.

00:07:47.760 And I said, perfect.

00:07:49.180 Right.

00:07:49.560 And then they showed up

00:07:50.460 and they were all in white

00:07:51.560 with beads

00:07:52.560 and crazy eyes.

00:07:55.760 And I...

00:07:56.300 Did they all have crazy eyes?

00:07:58.080 They definitely had that,

00:07:59.460 that, like, the look

00:08:01.080 where it's just,

00:08:02.300 I don't know if it is

00:08:03.500 just the brainwashing that happens

00:08:05.520 that your eyes,

00:08:06.520 it's, like, disconnected a little bit.

00:08:09.220 And they showed up

00:08:10.620 and I got in the car

00:08:11.960 and, you know,

00:08:12.520 at some point,

00:08:13.460 I'm...

00:08:14.020 I have a very storied past

00:08:17.200 and I sometimes do things...

00:08:19.560 I'm a writer

00:08:20.400 and sometimes I make decisions

00:08:22.060 because I'm like,

00:08:22.840 oh, this will be a cool story

00:08:24.260 and who knows,

00:08:25.560 but then I realize, you know,

00:08:27.240 I'm taking my life

00:08:28.320 in my own hands

00:08:29.200 and it might be dangerous

00:08:30.580 and I ended up

00:08:32.520 in the car

00:08:33.460 and the guy was driving

00:08:34.200 like a maniac

00:08:35.060 really aggressively

00:08:36.040 through all these

00:08:36.720 windy back roads

00:08:38.040 and I was like,

00:08:39.600 wow,

00:08:39.920 I might never see

00:08:41.160 my family or friends again.

00:08:42.500 I could just disappear.

00:08:44.340 No one knew where I was.

00:08:45.680 I mean,

00:08:46.080 it was reckless.

00:08:47.000 You're in the middle

00:08:47.480 of Australia,

00:08:48.620 you're...

00:08:49.260 And you don't have

00:08:50.080 communication tools, right?

00:08:51.460 Not really.

00:08:52.220 I had, you know,

00:08:53.140 a little, like,

00:08:54.020 flip phone that I bought

00:08:55.040 when I started traveling

00:08:56.100 but it wasn't,

00:08:57.120 you know,

00:08:57.700 this was before...

00:08:59.720 I don't even think

00:09:01.000 Airbnb was a thing yet.

00:09:02.460 It wasn't too long ago.

00:09:03.920 It was 2012

00:09:04.920 but it wasn't

00:09:07.120 like it is now.

00:09:08.520 Now,

00:09:10.000 you get there

00:09:10.840 because I've seen the show.

00:09:12.240 The show is really good.

00:09:13.060 Wild Wild Country

00:09:13.760 if you check it out.

00:09:14.980 How similar is it?

00:09:16.340 How...

00:09:17.140 What is this

00:09:17.840 the Australian version like?

00:09:19.600 It was pretty...

00:09:20.140 It wasn't...

00:09:21.660 I mean,

00:09:22.120 the scenes that you see

00:09:23.180 that are really graphic,

00:09:24.600 it was funny

00:09:25.280 because I walked into

00:09:26.340 the living room

00:09:27.560 and my roommate

00:09:28.680 was watching it

00:09:30.120 and she...

00:09:30.800 And I was like,

00:09:31.320 hey, I've done that

00:09:32.240 and it was them

00:09:32.860 doing the dynamic meditation

00:09:34.340 and she was like,

00:09:36.020 of course you have Bridget.

00:09:37.180 What are you talking about?

00:09:38.240 This is a documentary

00:09:39.200 and I was like,

00:09:40.120 no,

00:09:40.300 I was on an ashram

00:09:41.100 that did all this stuff.

00:09:42.940 What is this?

00:09:43.600 And then she was telling me,

00:09:44.460 I'm like,

00:09:44.660 oh, yeah,

00:09:45.140 this is the guy

00:09:46.140 who started...

00:09:47.600 He's the guy

00:09:48.220 that had the whole...

00:09:49.840 It was the...

00:09:50.780 Whatever.

00:09:51.380 What we practiced

00:09:52.380 on the ashram.

00:09:53.420 Yeah.

00:09:53.940 It was his...

00:09:54.640 We listened to his tapes

00:09:55.900 and we did the dynamic meditation

00:09:58.600 which is a meditation

00:09:59.520 that he invented

00:10:00.860 and it's...

00:10:03.440 It wasn't like

00:10:05.140 as raw

00:10:06.820 and aggressive

00:10:08.020 and naked

00:10:08.880 and kind of crazy.

00:10:10.080 I didn't want to pry

00:10:11.100 but yeah,

00:10:12.180 I wanted to know

00:10:13.060 on all of these other ashrams

00:10:16.140 that are still in existence today,

00:10:17.880 are they all having weird,

00:10:20.480 bizarre sitar music tantric sex?

00:10:24.360 Yes and no.

00:10:25.720 So most ashrams,

00:10:28.400 Osho kind of,

00:10:30.840 he rejected

00:10:32.000 the traditional ashram aesthetic

00:10:35.420 and he was very...

00:10:36.920 He said it's not all about

00:10:38.260 just denial,

00:10:39.220 it's about embracing.

00:10:40.640 He had this whole thing

00:10:41.480 called Zorba the Buddha

00:10:42.440 where you can meditate

00:10:44.020 but you can also drink

00:10:45.260 and be wild and crazy

00:10:47.460 and have sex

00:10:48.280 and you don't have to

00:10:49.180 renounce all these things

00:10:50.280 to be spiritual.

00:10:51.280 In fact,

00:10:52.440 spirituality and sexuality

00:10:53.840 are linked.

00:10:55.920 You know,

00:10:56.900 you can't really untangle them

00:10:59.560 and encourage polyamory

00:11:02.280 and all of this kind

00:11:03.100 of partner swapping

00:11:04.040 and yeah,

00:11:06.580 I think that

00:11:08.120 most ashrams that you go to

00:11:09.900 come from a strict lineage.

00:11:11.440 I went to another one

00:11:12.360 in New Zealand

00:11:13.340 and it was,

00:11:14.040 you know,

00:11:14.440 the golden silence

00:11:15.360 from eight until eight

00:11:16.400 and kirtan in the morning

00:11:17.600 but it was with meditation

00:11:18.720 and it was very strict

00:11:20.460 and you,

00:11:21.740 it was the complete opposite.

00:11:23.420 So I think those,

00:11:24.580 the Osho ashrams

00:11:25.680 are their own little culture.

00:11:28.460 Now,

00:11:28.940 who is running this thing

00:11:30.260 in Australia?

00:11:30.960 So it's not the Bhagwan

00:11:32.260 Indian guy

00:11:32.980 that lived in Oregon.

00:11:34.240 Who's the guy in Australia?

00:11:36.020 I,

00:11:36.480 it was a guy named Samaya

00:11:39.260 but it was,

00:11:40.360 I think he was

00:11:41.740 an Italian trust fund baby.

00:11:43.000 Of course he was.

00:11:43.700 That's what I've come

00:11:44.120 to find out.

00:11:44.940 Of course he was.

00:11:45.080 He was Italian.

00:11:46.600 Note to self,

00:11:48.040 when Ben fires you,

00:11:49.480 yeah,

00:11:49.840 okay.

00:11:50.180 Go beat Star Tocall.

00:11:51.040 Uh-huh,

00:11:51.480 it seems like a pretty

00:11:52.780 good gig to have.

00:11:54.280 Seriously.

00:11:55.160 I like how you can

00:11:56.300 kind of just go retreat

00:11:57.920 and then come

00:11:59.120 and everyone's like,

00:12:00.480 oh,

00:12:00.880 yay,

00:12:01.180 but most of the time

00:12:02.080 you just kind of

00:12:02.660 spend alone.

00:12:03.560 I think he just watched TV.

00:12:05.320 I don't know what he was doing

00:12:06.460 all that time alone.

00:12:07.900 Nice work if you can get it.

00:12:09.140 The Bhagwan spent

00:12:10.000 a lot of time alone

00:12:11.000 it seems like.

00:12:11.860 He was isolated a lot.

00:12:15.680 Did you,

00:12:16.600 so I'm,

00:12:17.120 I'm wondering

00:12:17.660 how this Italian guy

00:12:18.540 did it.

00:12:20.120 Is there a brainwashing

00:12:21.660 that goes on?

00:12:22.240 Yes.

00:12:24.700 It's insidious

00:12:26.480 and subtle

00:12:27.180 and it's,

00:12:28.060 it's not,

00:12:32.360 it's like my brain

00:12:33.440 is kind of

00:12:34.300 wash resistant,

00:12:35.860 I think.

00:12:36.440 I had a lot of experiences

00:12:38.000 leading up to that

00:12:38.960 that made me very skeptical

00:12:40.660 of anybody using

00:12:42.080 sexuality

00:12:44.020 to be spiritual,

00:12:46.240 which we won't get into.

00:12:47.440 but I did have some.

00:12:49.360 That's for after the break.

00:12:50.180 Yeah.

00:12:50.460 That's for the subscribers only.

00:12:52.460 I had some,

00:12:53.200 I had an immunity

00:12:54.260 to that kind of tactic.

00:12:56.400 But I did,

00:12:57.400 I can see how

00:12:58.620 you get

00:12:59.620 broken down.

00:13:01.560 It's really erratic.

00:13:03.720 The,

00:13:04.040 the exercises

00:13:05.600 that Osho

00:13:06.180 had you do

00:13:07.240 or in this case

00:13:08.380 at this ashram

00:13:09.580 are,

00:13:10.120 are guru.

00:13:11.960 It,

00:13:12.400 it's,

00:13:12.760 you vacillate

00:13:14.200 between emotions

00:13:14.960 really rapidly.

00:13:16.020 So if you and I

00:13:17.020 were doing an exercise,

00:13:18.140 I would be,

00:13:18.640 it was first,

00:13:19.260 it's like gibberish

00:13:20.760 and then they ding a bell

00:13:22.460 and then you start laughing

00:13:23.640 like a crazy person

00:13:24.860 like,

00:13:25.180 and then.

00:13:26.700 That sounds like acting class.

00:13:27.860 It is like acting class.

00:13:28.700 It does.

00:13:30.080 I'm making a joke,

00:13:31.120 but that is true.

00:13:31.880 They do this in acting classes.

00:13:33.120 This is another one

00:13:33.660 of the immunities I had.

00:13:34.920 I was like,

00:13:35.280 oh,

00:13:35.500 this is like improv,

00:13:36.360 I can do this.

00:13:37.120 And then you just start,

00:13:38.520 but then it dings a bell

00:13:39.760 and then you start screaming

00:13:40.840 at each other

00:13:41.260 and being like,

00:13:42.260 F you.

00:13:43.480 And just via,

00:13:44.760 and you see that

00:13:45.620 on the thing.

00:13:46.160 They're this kind of,

00:13:47.800 and it makes you crazy.

00:13:49.560 It definitely destabilizes

00:13:51.260 your,

00:13:51.840 your emotional center.

00:13:54.280 Sounds like,

00:13:55.020 explains every actor

00:13:56.080 that I've ever met.

00:13:58.180 It does remind me too.

00:14:00.020 You're describing LA.

00:14:01.180 Yeah,

00:14:01.400 that's right.

00:14:01.900 Yeah,

00:14:02.060 I don't,

00:14:02.620 I don't,

00:14:03.000 you didn't have to go to Australia.

00:14:04.480 You know,

00:14:05.500 there's a lot going.

00:14:08.200 LA is a weird sex cult,

00:14:09.820 isn't it?

00:14:10.340 It is.

00:14:11.040 I think so.

00:14:11.780 I think there's,

00:14:12.680 and there's so many cults in LA.

00:14:14.520 There are.

00:14:14.980 I mean,

00:14:15.100 I actually know people

00:14:16.140 who have joined cults in LA.

00:14:17.980 I mean,

00:14:18.420 Scientology,

00:14:19.340 eh?

00:14:19.680 The biggest one in the world.

00:14:20.820 The biggest one.

00:14:21.340 But there's one of the other,

00:14:23.340 another investigative piece

00:14:25.080 that I did

00:14:25.820 was on orgasmic meditation.

00:14:28.760 And as I did the piece

00:14:30.460 and everybody kind of,

00:14:32.640 any journalist who had written about it

00:14:34.120 kind of drank the Kool-Aid.

00:14:35.240 And I was like,

00:14:35.720 am I the only one who thinks

00:14:36.700 this is kind of weird?

00:14:37.700 And I went

00:14:38.480 and my therapist was like,

00:14:39.880 be careful, Bridget,

00:14:40.840 with your history.

00:14:41.980 Like,

00:14:42.100 this can be kind of triggering.

00:14:43.580 Just be careful.

00:14:44.720 And they didn't do,

00:14:46.880 I was calling it diddle club

00:14:48.380 because,

00:14:49.760 am I a lot of shock about this?

00:14:50.840 Do we,

00:14:51.240 do we,

00:14:51.520 I don't know if we have to

00:14:52.200 blank out diddle club.

00:14:53.420 We'll see.

00:14:53.860 We'll fix it in post.

00:14:54.900 Yeah.

00:14:55.040 I'm like,

00:14:55.480 am I allowed to say diddle club?

00:14:58.400 And yeah,

00:14:59.400 it's a,

00:15:00.100 it's a whole thing

00:15:01.220 about being in the om of the,

00:15:04.120 and as I,

00:15:05.740 after I wrote the piece,

00:15:06.480 I got emails from therapists

00:15:08.460 up in San Francisco,

00:15:09.600 which is where this thing started,

00:15:11.200 of course.

00:15:11.860 Right.

00:15:12.140 And they were saying

00:15:13.420 that they were so glad

00:15:14.440 that I kind of,

00:15:15.160 I was critical of it

00:15:16.060 because they have clients

00:15:17.560 who are suffering

00:15:18.740 and nobody,

00:15:20.140 I mean,

00:15:20.460 there really should be

00:15:21.400 like a full blown

00:15:22.580 investigative report

00:15:23.740 about this.

00:15:24.740 It sounds exhausting.

00:15:27.040 Orgasmic meditation,

00:15:28.340 sex-austing,

00:15:29.820 if you will,

00:15:30.300 but that's,

00:15:30.680 that's very tiring.

00:15:31.620 How do you keep that up all day?

00:15:32.440 I don't,

00:15:32.940 I was out after the first like intro.

00:15:35.760 I was just like,

00:15:37.180 no.

00:15:37.560 I'm going to avoid making

00:15:38.580 all of the jokes that are,

00:15:40.320 you know,

00:15:40.600 because it's a family show,

00:15:41.640 but there are,

00:15:42.320 there's a lot to say.

00:15:44.120 This reminds me

00:15:45.160 of the famous triptych

00:15:46.280 by Hieronymus Bosch,

00:15:48.040 The Garden of Earthly Delights,

00:15:49.760 where,

00:15:49.960 you know,

00:15:50.080 it's a famous triptych

00:15:50.900 where it's paradise

00:15:52.340 and it's beautiful

00:15:53.120 and then everyone's kind of

00:15:53.940 having these sensual pleasures

00:15:54.980 and then it is hell on earth

00:15:56.640 at the end.

00:15:57.260 It is just pure revelation,

00:15:59.820 hell,

00:16:00.320 you know.

00:16:01.760 You,

00:16:02.080 you write in,

00:16:02.740 in your piece about this,

00:16:03.680 excellent piece at Mel Magazine,

00:16:04.960 you write,

00:16:06.540 were we just hedonists

00:16:07.920 following our bliss

00:16:08.980 or was there something evil

00:16:10.580 lurking behind it all?

00:16:12.480 Which is it

00:16:13.160 and what's the difference?

00:16:14.980 Ooh,

00:16:15.600 well,

00:16:16.200 I think the road to hell,

00:16:18.120 anything can be perverted.

00:16:21.240 I think you can go in

00:16:22.500 with good intentions

00:16:23.420 of being spiritual

00:16:24.800 and wanting to connect

00:16:26.900 to something higher

00:16:27.900 and I,

00:16:28.800 I think that's why

00:16:29.740 so many people end up

00:16:30.920 in India

00:16:32.060 or on these pilgrimages

00:16:33.480 or in ashrams,

00:16:34.200 you're not,

00:16:34.740 you're not living the dream

00:16:36.300 and like,

00:16:37.180 okay,

00:16:37.500 I'm going to go check out

00:16:38.640 and,

00:16:39.160 and,

00:16:39.860 you know,

00:16:41.040 just go off the grid.

00:16:42.940 I think there's an internal sense

00:16:45.280 of restlessness

00:16:46.680 or longing for a feeling

00:16:49.720 of connection

00:16:50.700 to something bigger.

00:16:51.640 so it would be very easy

00:16:54.140 to manipulate that

00:16:55.280 for money

00:16:57.040 or power

00:16:57.900 or prestige

00:16:58.660 or any of these things

00:17:00.300 and I think that you find

00:17:01.480 these people

00:17:02.180 in myself,

00:17:05.120 I can only speak for myself,

00:17:06.680 I kind of turned

00:17:07.600 the other cheek

00:17:08.240 to a lot of the stuff

00:17:09.300 that was going on

00:17:10.240 because I was just

00:17:11.340 enjoying myself

00:17:12.100 and ultimately

00:17:13.340 on holiday

00:17:14.480 and knew I was,

00:17:16.160 knew I was leaving.

00:17:17.520 There were moments

00:17:18.220 where I didn't want to leave

00:17:19.360 because it was nice being,

00:17:21.520 there is something

00:17:22.280 very natural

00:17:22.920 about living that way.

00:17:24.360 It's quite simple.

00:17:25.560 So simple.

00:17:26.460 You have no decisions

00:17:27.380 to make

00:17:27.900 because some swarthy

00:17:29.640 little Indian millionaire

00:17:30.780 makes them for you.

00:17:32.100 Yes,

00:17:32.560 and it's,

00:17:33.180 there's a nice routine

00:17:34.420 and you're not wasting,

00:17:36.140 you know,

00:17:36.340 sometimes I'll like

00:17:37.020 be pumping gas

00:17:38.020 or I'll be,

00:17:39.280 I'll be throwing

00:17:40.180 a Starbucks cup away

00:17:42.040 and I'm like,

00:17:42.560 this isn't sustainable.

00:17:44.120 You know,

00:17:44.340 there's this,

00:17:45.260 I'll go into Costco

00:17:46.400 and it's like,

00:17:46.960 everything in here

00:17:47.700 is going to end up

00:17:48.280 in a landfill

00:17:48.900 or like coming,

00:17:50.700 you know,

00:17:51.220 how is it sustainable?

00:17:52.280 That's how I meditate

00:17:53.100 actually is I just

00:17:54.000 pour fossil fuels

00:17:55.540 on the ground

00:17:56.240 and I think,

00:17:56.780 ah,

00:17:57.240 now I'm at peace.

00:17:58.680 Om,

00:17:59.760 yeah,

00:18:00.500 yeah,

00:18:00.780 right.

00:18:01.480 So there is something

00:18:02.320 kind of,

00:18:03.000 it's like a bit

00:18:04.180 of a relief.

00:18:04.980 I found that it was

00:18:06.020 a relief,

00:18:06.800 although I missed

00:18:08.020 all of those

00:18:08.760 earthly pleasures

00:18:10.280 and,

00:18:11.740 and I wonder,

00:18:13.220 because you write

00:18:13.760 about this

00:18:14.180 in the Mel piece,

00:18:15.200 you say

00:18:15.820 that you missed

00:18:17.000 civilization.

00:18:17.980 Yeah.

00:18:18.160 You really liked

00:18:19.200 the kind of

00:18:20.340 simple sensuality,

00:18:21.920 spirituality,

00:18:22.940 some farming

00:18:23.980 or whatever,

00:18:24.800 but that you also

00:18:25.940 missed like booze

00:18:28.340 and opera

00:18:29.160 and drugs

00:18:29.980 and nice food

00:18:31.080 and meat

00:18:31.600 and steak.

00:18:32.480 Yeah.

00:18:32.600 And you eventually

00:18:34.060 come back to civilization.

00:18:36.140 Is it,

00:18:36.680 in your line

00:18:37.540 about hedonism,

00:18:38.660 is it just

00:18:39.380 the natural end

00:18:40.380 of hedonism?

00:18:41.420 Is this cultishness,

00:18:42.600 it gives itself

00:18:43.300 over to cultishness?

00:18:44.340 And what is

00:18:45.160 that boundary like?

00:18:47.660 I think it does.

00:18:49.600 I,

00:18:49.780 I don't know,

00:18:50.660 I don't know

00:18:51.200 where you,

00:18:51.980 where you go.

00:18:53.400 You know,

00:18:54.040 where,

00:18:54.440 I don't know

00:18:54.960 where you end up

00:18:55.740 at the end

00:18:56.200 of hedonism

00:18:56.940 other than

00:18:57.840 searching

00:18:59.040 for something

00:19:00.700 because it is so.

00:19:02.600 I know where you go.

00:19:03.560 It's all LA.

00:19:04.720 It is.

00:19:05.000 Yeah,

00:19:05.300 it's true.

00:19:05.760 The reason that the cults,

00:19:06.580 you come to LA,

00:19:07.760 well,

00:19:07.880 you're already here

00:19:08.580 and it's,

00:19:09.160 you know,

00:19:09.520 all of these cults

00:19:10.400 pop up

00:19:10.840 in the most hedonistic

00:19:12.580 cities in America

00:19:13.560 and I think it's because

00:19:14.760 there are all these people

00:19:15.340 in LA

00:19:15.760 and you'll say,

00:19:16.840 yeah,

00:19:17.040 well,

00:19:17.220 I'm a Catholic.

00:19:18.580 Say,

00:19:18.860 oh,

00:19:19.020 you believe in that

00:19:19.740 crazy superstition?

00:19:21.100 That's ridiculous.

00:19:22.260 Hold on,

00:19:22.620 I just have to,

00:19:23.260 I have to move around

00:19:24.320 my chakras

00:19:24.980 because Mercury's

00:19:25.660 in retrograde.

00:19:26.380 I can't believe

00:19:26.900 you believe in that

00:19:27.460 crazy Catholic church

00:19:28.800 and it,

00:19:30.020 often it's the people

00:19:31.380 who are not religious

00:19:32.340 who are very hedonistic.

00:19:34.000 They're the most superstitious

00:19:35.000 people on earth.

00:19:35.760 Oh,

00:19:36.060 I mean,

00:19:36.400 I feel this way

00:19:37.000 about atheism even.

00:19:38.160 It's the dogma

00:19:39.160 of atheism.

00:19:39.880 Like,

00:19:40.020 you guys really spend

00:19:40.860 a lot of time

00:19:41.820 telling me,

00:19:43.420 preaching your

00:19:44.680 atheistic values.

00:19:46.300 It feels,

00:19:46.720 it feels the same way

00:19:48.340 to me.

00:19:49.480 I think we all

00:19:51.380 want something

00:19:51.920 to believe

00:19:52.620 as humans

00:19:53.500 because it's very

00:19:54.840 confusing being human

00:19:56.320 and I don't know much.

00:19:57.740 I'm not that smart.

00:19:58.820 I do know a lot

00:20:00.020 about the human condition

00:20:01.400 from my own experience

00:20:02.980 and the human condition

00:20:05.220 I think is very confusing

00:20:07.080 because there's

00:20:07.940 this sense of order.

00:20:09.780 The sun rises,

00:20:10.840 it sets.

00:20:11.360 There are seasons

00:20:12.120 and yet there's

00:20:13.460 all this chaos

00:20:14.260 and so that chaos,

00:20:16.380 you want to make it

00:20:17.160 make sense.

00:20:18.320 That is the essential.

00:20:19.600 I mean,

00:20:19.740 Jordan Peterson

00:20:20.220 just sold a gazillion

00:20:21.140 books on this.

00:20:22.160 The essential human motive

00:20:23.620 is to make order

00:20:25.520 out of chaos

00:20:26.160 and to pursue the good,

00:20:28.420 to pursue the virtue.

00:20:30.060 So I wonder,

00:20:30.900 you know,

00:20:31.060 culture and cult

00:20:31.700 come from the same word

00:20:32.660 to cultivate, right?

00:20:34.320 They come from,

00:20:34.840 they're both derived

00:20:35.900 from the same thing.

00:20:36.960 Which is worse,

00:20:37.980 a wacky Indian sex cult

00:20:40.260 in Australia

00:20:40.880 or our modern,

00:20:42.800 decadent,

00:20:43.600 materialistic culture

00:20:44.880 broadly in the West?

00:20:46.540 Ooh.

00:20:47.700 And it's interesting

00:20:48.640 because there isn't

00:20:49.660 much difference

00:20:50.440 from the experience

00:20:51.920 I had

00:20:52.800 at that ashram

00:20:54.300 and working up

00:20:55.120 on a farm in Oregon.

00:20:56.280 There's a lot of overlap,

00:20:58.420 the polyamorous

00:20:59.440 and even in L.A.,

00:21:00.980 the culture here.

00:21:02.580 And it leads,

00:21:06.200 which is worse,

00:21:08.060 a wacky...

00:21:09.140 Some say the world

00:21:10.660 will end in fire,

00:21:11.480 some say in ice,

00:21:12.360 from what I've tasted

00:21:13.020 of desire.

00:21:13.680 You know,

00:21:13.920 there are a lot of...

00:21:14.460 Everyone's being exploited.

00:21:16.300 So whether you're exploited

00:21:17.440 for your breath work

00:21:18.400 down here

00:21:19.060 or you're exploited

00:21:20.600 for money

00:21:21.960 on this ashram

00:21:23.140 or your psychology is...

00:21:27.520 I think the dangerous thing

00:21:28.840 that happens

00:21:29.420 in places like ashrams

00:21:31.160 as opposed to

00:21:32.220 being in civilization

00:21:33.500 is that your brain breaks

00:21:35.600 in those places

00:21:36.520 and I definitely had friends

00:21:38.480 that I'm still in touch with

00:21:39.660 whose brains

00:21:40.660 are a little bit broken

00:21:41.620 from the ashram.

00:21:42.620 They can't really exist

00:21:44.860 in civilization

00:21:45.680 and they don't really

00:21:47.060 have a desire to

00:21:48.220 because they haven't...

00:21:49.220 They lost their...

00:21:50.220 That socialization.

00:21:52.140 Right.

00:21:52.760 They're incapable of...

00:21:54.380 Like, the noise...

00:21:55.160 The noise is too much

00:21:56.740 and the chaos

00:21:57.420 and the capitalism

00:21:58.200 and...

00:21:58.980 Well, you talk about it

00:22:00.080 explicitly in one moment

00:22:01.600 in the piece.

00:22:02.560 You say they tried

00:22:03.300 to give you a new name.

00:22:04.880 They did.

00:22:05.660 And that's the moment

00:22:06.820 where you thought

00:22:07.360 this is getting pretty weird, fellas.

00:22:09.320 I hope that's what

00:22:10.100 my name is here.

00:22:10.900 Yeah.

00:22:11.640 Prem Sarita, guys.

00:22:12.780 Prem Sarita.

00:22:13.580 Yes, of course, Premi.

00:22:14.860 Yeah.

00:22:15.300 River of love.

00:22:16.640 Yeah.

00:22:17.360 The river of love.

00:22:18.280 They gave you this new name.

00:22:19.780 This is just a cynical tactic

00:22:21.520 to break your individual...

00:22:23.540 And they do a lot of that.

00:22:25.420 And I do think that that...

00:22:26.700 I guess...

00:22:27.780 Again, one of the differences,

00:22:30.040 it's targeted breaking

00:22:31.520 in an ashram,

00:22:32.500 whereas here,

00:22:33.300 maybe it's more insidious.

00:22:34.980 Like, L.A. just wears you down

00:22:36.680 slowly in traffic

00:22:38.120 and...

00:22:38.920 Oh, yeah.

00:22:39.400 Just battling everything.

00:22:40.320 Screams absolutely unsatisfied.

00:22:43.960 Well, anyway,

00:22:44.540 I'm sorry.

00:22:44.960 I don't know what

00:22:45.060 we're talking about.

00:22:45.560 Yeah.

00:22:46.240 But there,

00:22:47.100 it's very much

00:22:48.300 forget who you are.

00:22:50.340 The outside world

00:22:51.240 doesn't matter.

00:22:52.840 You're going to disconnect

00:22:53.860 from your family.

00:22:55.200 They don't need to hear from you.

00:22:56.980 You're isolated.

00:22:58.200 So there's a big difference

00:22:59.860 between any situation,

00:23:02.140 whether it's Scientology

00:23:03.540 or the ashram

00:23:04.680 or anything where it's

00:23:05.640 isolating you

00:23:06.480 from your friends and family

00:23:07.820 and people that love you

00:23:09.000 and know you.

00:23:09.520 So that's even...

00:23:10.620 You see it in relationships.

00:23:11.960 Right.

00:23:12.400 I mean,

00:23:12.960 Drew and I were joking.

00:23:14.420 He's like,

00:23:14.740 can't I just be a cult of one?

00:23:16.160 And I was like,

00:23:16.560 I think that's marriage.

00:23:18.620 Yeah, you're in it.

00:23:19.900 You're the Bhagwan.

00:23:21.440 I always refer to Drew Klavan

00:23:22.940 as the Bhagwan guy,

00:23:24.300 you know.

00:23:25.380 Isn't that just what marriage is,

00:23:27.060 like a cult of two?

00:23:28.700 Wow.

00:23:29.320 That, you know,

00:23:29.720 you've really taken me

00:23:30.560 full circle here, Bridget.

00:23:31.980 Initially,

00:23:32.380 I just wanted to dive

00:23:34.140 into a weird,

00:23:35.600 sexy,

00:23:36.180 sitar-laden ashram,

00:23:38.120 but now you've really...

00:23:39.020 No.

00:23:39.140 I can be my own

00:23:40.120 Italian cult leader.

00:23:41.080 You are joining the cult.

00:23:41.400 I don't need to go to Australia

00:23:42.360 to do that.

00:23:43.080 I'll do it right in my own marriage.

00:23:44.360 You can do it right

00:23:44.980 in your own house.

00:23:45.480 There's so much more

00:23:46.080 I want to talk to you about,

00:23:47.360 but we have to move on.

00:23:48.420 I've got to get out of here.

00:23:49.220 I want to talk to you...

00:23:49.920 Oh, there's so much.

00:23:50.880 Okay, we'll just have

00:23:51.440 to have you back.

00:23:51.900 Okay.

00:23:52.400 Bridget.

00:23:52.780 Thank you so much.

00:23:54.300 Premi,

00:23:54.840 Premi,

00:23:55.520 Premi,

00:23:56.240 Premi,

00:23:56.740 thank you for being here.

00:23:57.920 Thank you for having me.

00:23:57.960 Where can people find you?

00:23:59.000 Oh,

00:24:00.220 Twitter is the best.

00:24:01.380 I'm on all the socials,

00:24:02.980 but at Bridget Phetasy

00:24:04.380 is where...

00:24:05.340 I live on Twitter.

00:24:06.520 At Bridget Phetasy.

00:24:07.420 Don't we all?

00:24:08.260 I know.

00:24:08.460 It's so sad.

00:24:09.120 I want to throw it

00:24:10.020 and go follow the Bogman.

00:24:10.920 I took it off my phone, though.

00:24:12.320 That's a good first step.

00:24:13.200 I recommend it.

00:24:13.520 That's a good first step.

00:24:14.200 And now that I have this mug,

00:24:15.560 I will never be working

00:24:16.820 in Hollywood again.

00:24:17.720 You're done.

00:24:18.980 I've been Kanye'd.

00:24:20.380 You've been Kanye'd.

00:24:21.180 The Crips are going to put

00:24:21.820 a hit out on you, actually.

00:24:23.020 So that's what happens.

00:24:24.140 It's fine.

00:24:24.320 You're not going to believe

00:24:24.960 the Crips, man.

00:24:25.900 I was Kanye'd long before Kanye.

00:24:28.020 Wow.

00:24:28.660 Well,

00:24:29.580 hopefully you'll be able

00:24:31.560 to get some good

00:24:32.500 Trump tweets out of that.

00:24:33.820 Hopefully you can avoid

00:24:34.620 the Crips in the meantime.

00:24:36.400 Bridget Phetasy.

00:24:37.080 Go find her on Twitter

00:24:38.100 and read all of her stuff

00:24:39.620 at The Federalist

00:24:40.820 or, you know,

00:24:41.460 Playboy's not a bad website

00:24:42.540 to visit every once in a while.

00:24:43.560 Or Mel Magazine.

00:24:43.800 Mel Magazine.

00:24:44.940 It writes everywhere.

00:24:46.420 And all right,

00:24:46.900 we'll see you soon.

00:24:47.320 Thank you so much.

00:24:48.060 Bridget.

00:24:48.540 Okay, we've got to get

00:24:49.360 and talk a little bit

00:24:50.320 about the culture

00:24:51.260 because, you know,

00:24:52.500 we're talking about

00:24:53.140 weird sex cults

00:24:53.900 and now we can talk

00:24:54.460 about our weird culture,

00:24:55.860 which is absolutely

00:24:56.940 in the gutter.

00:24:58.440 There's some sad news

00:24:59.440 that I want to get to

00:25:00.060 about the culture today

00:25:01.360 before we sign off

00:25:02.540 and get to this day

00:25:03.220 in history.

00:25:04.060 Sad news about the culture

00:25:05.000 is that we all

00:25:05.680 hate each other.

00:25:07.160 The Pew Research Center

00:25:08.400 just has a report out

00:25:10.120 from last fall.

00:25:11.100 It's being reported on now.

00:25:12.200 The report shows,

00:25:14.420 quote,

00:25:14.440 among members

00:25:15.060 of both parties,

00:25:16.340 the shares

00:25:16.800 with very unfavorable

00:25:18.480 opinions of the other party

00:25:19.720 have more than doubled.

00:25:22.160 They've increased

00:25:23.060 by 28 full percentage points

00:25:24.760 since 1994.

00:25:26.800 Republicans and Democrats

00:25:27.820 don't want to live

00:25:28.500 in the same types

00:25:29.100 of communities anymore.

00:25:30.400 Most of them admit

00:25:31.100 they have very few

00:25:32.120 or no friends

00:25:33.160 on the other side

00:25:34.380 of the aisle.

00:25:35.080 This is pretty weird.

00:25:36.400 This is weird

00:25:36.900 and I've noticed it

00:25:38.080 even in my brief stint

00:25:40.400 on this earth

00:25:41.040 the politics

00:25:41.860 has gotten much nastier

00:25:43.460 and now

00:25:44.460 if I go

00:25:45.620 to a dinner

00:25:46.320 or something

00:25:46.860 and I say

00:25:47.680 oh I'm Catholic

00:25:49.140 or I don't know

00:25:50.080 I'm this

00:25:50.820 or I have this belief

00:25:51.760 or this belief

00:25:52.320 that is much more acceptable

00:25:54.820 than saying

00:25:55.260 I'm a Republican

00:25:55.900 or I voted

00:25:57.140 for Donald Trump.

00:25:58.000 That you cannot say.

00:25:59.020 It's very awkward.

00:26:00.140 You have to hide it.

00:26:01.280 You saw this

00:26:01.880 in voting patterns.

00:26:03.980 This is why

00:26:04.420 the polls

00:26:04.880 weren't always so right

00:26:06.320 public opinion polls

00:26:07.280 about Trump's support

00:26:08.060 because 20% of people

00:26:09.400 don't want to admit it.

00:26:10.900 18% of people

00:26:11.940 I think also

00:26:12.600 no according to

00:26:13.420 a national survey

00:26:14.460 in Selena Zito's

00:26:15.600 new book

00:26:15.980 show that people

00:26:16.880 who voted for Donald Trump

00:26:18.080 don't want to admit it

00:26:20.060 to others

00:26:20.360 because they fear

00:26:21.000 being ostracized

00:26:21.900 they fear losing

00:26:22.400 their jobs

00:26:22.900 or their reputations

00:26:23.660 or their careers

00:26:24.320 or friends

00:26:24.820 or whatever.

00:26:25.760 We know that lefties

00:26:26.460 on Facebook

00:26:27.020 are three times

00:26:28.160 more likely

00:26:28.640 than conservatives

00:26:29.320 to unfriend people

00:26:30.900 because of their

00:26:31.480 political views.

00:26:32.420 It's really angry

00:26:33.700 and bitter

00:26:34.340 and I think it's because

00:26:35.300 the culture's

00:26:36.120 gotten shallower

00:26:36.920 so everything

00:26:37.980 is just shouting

00:26:39.180 and yelling

00:26:39.680 and I don't blame

00:26:40.860 the two sides

00:26:41.420 equally for this.

00:26:42.280 There's this really

00:26:43.140 kumbaya thing

00:26:43.960 we say you know

00:26:44.480 it's both sides man

00:26:45.460 no it actually

00:26:46.580 is being driven

00:26:47.200 by the left.

00:26:49.100 Conservatives

00:26:49.660 sometimes take

00:26:50.300 their cues

00:26:51.080 or take the bait

00:26:51.840 but this is being

00:26:52.800 driven by the left

00:26:53.640 it's being driven

00:26:54.240 by poisonous ideologies

00:26:55.840 like intersectionality

00:26:57.040 which say

00:26:57.900 hey forget about

00:26:59.180 our ideas

00:26:59.800 forget about

00:27:00.360 our reason

00:27:00.880 we're going to

00:27:01.500 gang up on

00:27:02.100 this demographic

00:27:02.960 because we don't

00:27:03.680 like this group

00:27:04.240 of people.

00:27:04.660 it's a really

00:27:06.040 wicked ideology

00:27:07.600 and also you see it

00:27:08.660 in Jonathan

00:27:09.360 Height's studies

00:27:10.760 Jonathan Height

00:27:11.700 published that famous

00:27:13.260 study a few years ago

00:27:14.200 it was reported on

00:27:14.860 the New York Times

00:27:15.640 that conservatives

00:27:16.760 understand the left

00:27:17.860 more or less

00:27:18.560 but the left

00:27:19.340 doesn't understand

00:27:20.160 conservatives

00:27:20.720 they view the world

00:27:21.840 in only three

00:27:23.320 value categories

00:27:24.580 these things are all

00:27:27.160 a little malleable

00:27:27.900 but the left

00:27:28.520 views the world

00:27:29.180 in narrower value

00:27:30.400 categories

00:27:30.980 and fewer value

00:27:32.220 categories

00:27:32.760 than conservatives

00:27:33.800 view the world

00:27:34.440 so we can understand

00:27:35.880 that point of view

00:27:36.640 but for instance

00:27:37.460 the left has trouble

00:27:38.320 understanding something

00:27:39.100 like purity

00:27:40.280 the conservative

00:27:41.420 value of purity

00:27:42.260 who cares about purity

00:27:43.300 what are you talking

00:27:44.240 about man

00:27:44.640 I just want to live

00:27:45.220 on my sex cult

00:27:45.860 for my whole life

00:27:46.700 or something like that

00:27:47.440 that's too bad

00:27:49.820 usually the loudest

00:27:51.160 voices are the

00:27:52.020 least knowledgeable

00:27:52.760 that tends to be

00:27:54.120 the case

00:27:54.560 and you hear people

00:27:55.620 say they say

00:27:56.100 I'm going to shout

00:27:57.020 my abortion

00:27:57.740 I'm so proud

00:27:58.800 I'm going to shout

00:27:59.460 this or shout that

00:28:00.600 I'm going to

00:28:00.840 you know that girl

00:28:01.540 when Donald Trump

00:28:02.640 won there was that

00:28:03.300 video of her

00:28:03.860 and she's out there

00:28:04.400 they say

00:28:04.600 Donald Trump

00:28:05.380 won the election

00:28:05.940 she goes

00:28:06.220 no

00:28:06.840 and she yells

00:28:08.200 and she screams

00:28:09.100 because there's

00:28:10.120 no reasonable discourse

00:28:11.200 if you get angry

00:28:13.420 and hot all the time

00:28:14.340 and you want to

00:28:14.680 unfriend people

00:28:15.240 and scream and yell

00:28:15.960 usually that's a sign

00:28:17.700 that you don't

00:28:18.340 understand what

00:28:19.060 you're talking about

00:28:19.880 because I hear

00:28:21.120 all sorts of

00:28:21.700 crazy ideas

00:28:22.340 all day long

00:28:22.980 I usually don't

00:28:24.140 get that flustered

00:28:24.860 because I've heard

00:28:25.480 them before

00:28:26.080 that owes to

00:28:28.120 a bad education system

00:28:29.360 that owes to

00:28:30.120 a highly politicized

00:28:31.180 education system

00:28:32.160 and a vicious

00:28:33.240 shallow

00:28:33.860 highly politicized

00:28:34.800 pop culture

00:28:35.400 hopefully that's

00:28:36.220 turning around

00:28:36.740 Bridget mentioned

00:28:37.440 that she got

00:28:38.120 Kanye'd

00:28:38.780 you know

00:28:39.160 Bridget isn't

00:28:39.740 some Edmund

00:28:40.400 Burkean

00:28:40.960 conservative

00:28:41.540 with buttoned up

00:28:42.300 wearing tweed

00:28:42.800 all the time

00:28:43.360 certainly not

00:28:44.020 on the ashram

00:28:44.600 but she got

00:28:45.360 Kanye'd

00:28:46.040 in that

00:28:46.520 she's a free

00:28:47.500 thinker

00:28:47.980 and these days

00:28:48.760 if you're a free

00:28:49.320 thinker

00:28:49.660 if you have

00:28:49.960 independent thought

00:28:50.780 that puts you

00:28:51.580 on the right

00:28:52.060 I don't think

00:28:53.180 people signed up

00:28:53.860 for that

00:28:54.260 but the left

00:28:54.780 has moved so far

00:28:55.700 to the left

00:28:56.140 it just puts you

00:28:57.180 on the right

00:28:57.780 this ties in

00:28:58.760 with another

00:28:59.180 sad phenomenon

00:29:00.660 that's happening

00:29:01.160 in the culture

00:29:01.700 and that's

00:29:02.300 loneliness

00:29:02.720 there's an epidemic

00:29:04.580 right now

00:29:05.120 of loneliness

00:29:05.600 in the culture

00:29:06.280 a new study

00:29:07.540 from Cigna

00:29:08.260 reveals that

00:29:09.320 loneliness

00:29:09.740 is at epidemic

00:29:10.780 levels in America

00:29:11.840 this was a survey

00:29:13.200 of 20,000

00:29:14.240 American adults

00:29:15.180 aged 18 or older

00:29:16.540 nearly half

00:29:17.620 of those adults

00:29:18.620 report sometimes

00:29:20.180 or always

00:29:21.100 feeling alone

00:29:22.180 46%

00:29:23.680 or left out

00:29:24.960 47%

00:29:26.040 depending on how

00:29:26.640 you change the wording

00:29:27.440 half of Americans

00:29:28.780 report being

00:29:30.160 sometimes are always

00:29:31.400 lonely

00:29:32.280 feeling alone

00:29:33.000 1 in 4 Americans

00:29:34.380 more than 1 in 4

00:29:35.180 27%

00:29:36.060 rarely or never

00:29:37.620 feel as though

00:29:38.920 there are people

00:29:39.680 who really understand them

00:29:40.900 that they have no one

00:29:42.460 who understands

00:29:43.100 what they're going through

00:29:43.820 this total isolation

00:29:45.160 for over a quarter

00:29:46.200 of the country

00:29:46.840 2 in 5 Americans

00:29:48.600 40% of the country

00:29:49.760 sometimes

00:29:50.640 or always feel

00:29:51.920 that their relationships

00:29:53.360 are not meaningful

00:29:54.760 they're these shallow

00:29:55.660 relationships

00:29:56.480 43%

00:29:57.900 and that they're

00:29:58.760 isolated from others

00:29:59.760 same percentage

00:30:00.440 43%

00:30:01.320 this I think

00:30:02.820 is because of the

00:30:03.720 paltry view

00:30:04.540 of friendship

00:30:05.820 and that comes

00:30:06.900 because we've elevated

00:30:07.780 sex

00:30:08.280 so we make sex

00:30:09.540 the be all

00:30:10.120 and end all

00:30:10.700 you don't have to

00:30:11.620 you don't have to

00:30:12.640 go to Australia

00:30:13.240 or Oregon

00:30:14.160 or India

00:30:14.700 for that to happen

00:30:15.780 that is pervasive

00:30:17.480 around the

00:30:18.220 civilized world

00:30:18.960 there's a hookup culture

00:30:20.460 it's the swipe right

00:30:21.880 culture

00:30:22.320 it's one that

00:30:22.840 elevates sex

00:30:23.900 and I'm not

00:30:24.580 denigrating sex

00:30:25.380 sex is a cool thing

00:30:26.500 man

00:30:26.720 I'm all for it

00:30:27.520 but it's not

00:30:28.060 the only type

00:30:28.760 of relationship

00:30:29.320 there are plenty

00:30:29.820 of other types

00:30:30.340 of relationship

00:30:31.000 Aristotle wrote

00:30:33.220 about friendship

00:30:34.060 friendship as

00:30:34.780 the important thing

00:30:36.600 the important

00:30:37.240 relationship

00:30:37.320 love has been

00:30:41.380 described as

00:30:42.280 two people

00:30:43.120 looking at

00:30:43.880 one another

00:30:44.360 lovers are

00:30:45.220 two people

00:30:45.600 who look at

00:30:45.940 one another

00:30:46.340 and friends

00:30:47.300 are two people

00:30:48.000 who stand next

00:30:48.640 to one another

00:30:49.120 and look at

00:30:49.580 the same thing

00:30:50.280 they're pursuing

00:30:51.180 the same good

00:30:51.920 they're observing

00:30:53.280 the same good

00:30:54.080 and that kind

00:30:55.060 of deep friendship

00:30:55.940 I think is missing

00:30:56.880 it's missing in part

00:30:57.980 because we're so afraid

00:30:58.680 to talk about anything

00:30:59.620 people are afraid

00:31:01.020 to talk about

00:31:01.560 politics and religion

00:31:02.640 don't talk about

00:31:03.600 politics or religion

00:31:04.520 at the dinner table

00:31:05.280 folks

00:31:05.640 that's what we're told

00:31:07.020 it's because if I say

00:31:08.320 yes I voted for

00:31:09.260 Bob Dolan 96

00:31:10.400 they'll say

00:31:11.180 you vicious bigot

00:31:12.780 voting for a

00:31:13.900 moderate republican

00:31:14.740 so we're not

00:31:15.460 willing to talk

00:31:16.140 about anything

00:31:16.480 that matters

00:31:16.960 we're only willing

00:31:17.480 to talk about

00:31:17.980 dinner

00:31:18.360 this is good chicken

00:31:19.580 yeah

00:31:20.060 how's the chicken

00:31:21.340 chicken's good

00:31:21.840 right

00:31:22.040 that's all

00:31:22.820 people just talk

00:31:23.500 about the food

00:31:24.100 that shallowness

00:31:27.080 is what makes

00:31:28.160 people join

00:31:28.720 wacky cults

00:31:29.540 to search for

00:31:30.300 something else

00:31:30.800 because we know

00:31:31.300 that's not

00:31:31.840 sufficient in life

00:31:33.320 we want to have

00:31:33.820 meaningful relationships

00:31:34.980 there was another

00:31:35.800 big study that came

00:31:36.760 out that said

00:31:37.120 people hate

00:31:37.980 small talk

00:31:38.720 you don't need

00:31:39.980 a study to tell

00:31:40.740 you that

00:31:41.040 everybody hates

00:31:41.900 small talk

00:31:42.380 people say

00:31:42.840 I want to go

00:31:43.240 to this dinner

00:31:43.720 because I'm

00:31:43.980 going to have

00:31:44.160 to yammer on

00:31:45.760 and babble

00:31:46.540 about nothing

00:31:47.360 over champagne

00:31:48.680 or something

00:31:49.160 people want to

00:31:50.560 talk about

00:31:50.840 things that matter

00:31:51.620 they want to

00:31:52.040 think about

00:31:52.440 things that matter

00:31:53.080 in the same

00:31:53.820 survey from Pew

00:31:54.600 one in five

00:31:55.580 people report

00:31:56.320 that they rarely

00:31:57.300 or never feel

00:31:58.100 close to people

00:31:59.120 they feel like

00:32:00.620 there are people

00:32:01.180 that they can

00:32:01.660 talk to

00:32:02.200 20% say

00:32:03.300 they don't ever

00:32:04.000 feel close to

00:32:04.840 people

00:32:05.160 there aren't

00:32:05.980 meaningful

00:32:06.380 relationships

00:32:07.040 and it's

00:32:07.520 because we

00:32:08.660 have humiliated

00:32:10.760 the view of

00:32:11.260 friendship

00:32:11.660 we've made it

00:32:13.140 so shallow

00:32:13.680 that it barely

00:32:14.240 exists

00:32:14.840 and we've also

00:32:16.440 destroyed the view

00:32:17.160 of relationships

00:32:17.980 now you know

00:32:18.780 Cole Porter

00:32:19.260 didn't sing

00:32:19.800 let's do it

00:32:21.080 let's be in a

00:32:22.360 relationship

00:32:22.820 until one of us

00:32:23.600 wants to get out

00:32:24.240 of it and then

00:32:24.600 we'll swipe right

00:32:25.100 again

00:32:25.480 right that's not

00:32:26.320 how the song

00:32:26.700 goes

00:32:26.900 let's fall in

00:32:27.720 love

00:32:28.080 let's give

00:32:28.680 ourselves to

00:32:29.240 one another

00:32:29.660 that view

00:32:31.180 is on the

00:32:31.940 decline

00:32:32.260 that's a

00:32:32.600 minority view

00:32:33.280 now

00:32:33.620 or it's a

00:32:34.180 repressed

00:32:34.620 view

00:32:34.940 and when you

00:32:36.020 bottle something

00:32:36.680 up for too

00:32:37.100 long it's going

00:32:37.540 to come out

00:32:37.900 in weird ways

00:32:38.640 this survey

00:32:39.300 also shows

00:32:39.920 that generation

00:32:40.580 Z

00:32:41.060 so a lot

00:32:42.220 of times

00:32:42.440 when people

00:32:42.720 talk about

00:32:43.340 the youths

00:32:44.120 they talk

00:32:44.660 about the

00:32:45.060 millennials

00:32:45.440 they say

00:32:45.860 oh the

00:32:46.100 millennials

00:32:46.400 do this

00:32:46.780 the millennials

00:32:47.160 do that

00:32:47.660 but actually

00:32:48.180 the millennials

00:32:48.560 are kind

00:32:48.900 of old

00:32:49.260 now

00:32:49.480 I'm a

00:32:49.900 millennial

00:32:50.320 millennials

00:32:50.840 are late

00:32:51.280 20s

00:32:51.700 early 30s

00:32:52.460 generation

00:32:53.340 Z

00:32:53.860 are the people

00:32:55.400 who are

00:32:55.780 upwards of

00:32:56.660 22 years

00:32:57.320 old

00:32:57.580 generation Z

00:32:58.560 is reported

00:32:59.320 to be

00:32:59.540 the loneliest

00:33:00.220 generation

00:33:00.880 of all

00:33:01.820 generations

00:33:02.320 alive today

00:33:02.840 they're the

00:33:03.200 loneliest

00:33:03.620 this is

00:33:04.260 bizarre

00:33:04.700 because you

00:33:05.420 have the

00:33:05.960 oldest

00:33:06.280 generation

00:33:06.780 alive

00:33:07.200 they should

00:33:07.820 be the

00:33:08.060 loneliest

00:33:08.420 right

00:33:08.620 because all

00:33:08.980 of their

00:33:09.180 friends are

00:33:09.560 dead

00:33:09.800 or they're

00:33:10.340 widowed

00:33:10.640 or whatever

00:33:11.200 no

00:33:12.080 they actually

00:33:12.760 are doing

00:33:13.120 relatively

00:33:13.600 better than

00:33:14.100 generation Z

00:33:14.960 and a lot

00:33:15.700 of people

00:33:15.960 blame this

00:33:16.360 on social

00:33:16.780 media use

00:33:17.400 they say

00:33:17.880 oh it's

00:33:18.080 because your

00:33:18.360 heads are in

00:33:18.880 your smart

00:33:19.280 phones

00:33:19.520 you're not

00:33:19.820 having

00:33:20.020 meaningful

00:33:20.480 relationships

00:33:21.480 that all

00:33:22.080 might be

00:33:22.380 true

00:33:22.660 but social

00:33:23.340 media use

00:33:24.100 according to

00:33:24.560 this survey

00:33:25.020 is not a

00:33:25.980 predictor

00:33:26.400 of loneliness

00:33:27.060 that's

00:33:28.160 bizarre

00:33:28.420 the loneliness

00:33:29.480 fair is the

00:33:30.420 same among

00:33:30.800 heavy social

00:33:31.320 media users

00:33:31.960 and light

00:33:32.660 social media

00:33:33.260 users

00:33:33.740 what this

00:33:34.420 means is

00:33:35.240 this is

00:33:36.380 partially what

00:33:37.420 allows bizarre

00:33:38.160 cults and

00:33:39.100 rituals to

00:33:39.760 flourish

00:33:40.200 this empty

00:33:41.680 meanness and

00:33:43.120 shallowness of

00:33:43.840 materialism and

00:33:44.740 abstracting things

00:33:45.660 and saying oh

00:33:46.100 well I just I

00:33:47.720 think of this

00:33:48.140 person as an

00:33:48.660 abstraction

00:33:49.080 he's a

00:33:49.820 republican

00:33:50.260 he's a

00:33:51.040 democrat

00:33:51.400 he's a

00:33:52.360 thisist or

00:33:53.280 a thatist

00:33:53.840 and they think

00:33:54.280 only in terms

00:33:55.080 of abstractions

00:33:55.780 so people are

00:33:56.540 drawn to

00:33:57.020 these weird

00:33:57.420 cultish

00:33:57.860 activities

00:33:58.300 people love

00:33:59.100 farming

00:33:59.620 people love

00:34:00.400 being with

00:34:00.900 people people

00:34:01.380 love free

00:34:01.920 love they

00:34:02.440 love the

00:34:03.240 tangible aspects

00:34:04.720 of humanity

00:34:05.320 which in

00:34:05.920 modern culture

00:34:06.600 really doesn't

00:34:07.940 cherish as

00:34:08.600 much but

00:34:09.280 it's it's an

00:34:11.280 important aspect

00:34:11.920 and everybody's

00:34:13.500 got to serve

00:34:13.920 somebody there

00:34:15.000 you know when

00:34:15.660 when true

00:34:16.680 religion goes

00:34:17.200 away people

00:34:17.600 become very

00:34:18.120 superstitious

00:34:18.760 there you

00:34:19.580 can't avoid

00:34:20.120 the metaphysical

00:34:20.760 world so

00:34:21.240 you've got to

00:34:21.840 channel these

00:34:22.360 things into

00:34:22.720 healthy ways

00:34:23.420 or else people

00:34:24.220 are just going

00:34:24.600 to get meaner

00:34:25.280 and meaner

00:34:25.800 and lonelier

00:34:26.400 and lonelier

00:34:27.000 and I'm going

00:34:27.620 to have to

00:34:27.920 move to

00:34:28.180 Australia

00:34:28.560 and join

00:34:29.040 the sex cult

00:34:29.580 okay we've

00:34:30.500 got a lot

00:34:30.820 more to talk

00:34:31.260 about because

00:34:31.700 we have a

00:34:32.120 we have a

00:34:32.860 bright side

00:34:33.520 in this day

00:34:33.980 in history

00:34:34.420 but before

00:34:35.360 we get to

00:34:36.120 that I'm

00:34:36.560 sorry folks

00:34:37.180 we got to

00:34:38.120 sign off

00:34:38.540 I've also got

00:34:39.040 some pretty

00:34:39.320 cool there's

00:34:39.880 good news

00:34:40.420 to announce

00:34:40.840 I think Ben

00:34:41.320 might have

00:34:41.540 announced it

00:34:41.920 on Twitter

00:34:42.220 this morning

00:34:42.700 starting this

00:34:43.760 Sunday

00:34:44.080 May 6th

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00:34:47.160 in a brand

00:34:48.180 new edition

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00:34:52.400 this is going

00:34:53.080 to be really

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00:35:07.340 Jordan was by our

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00:35:09.800 day it's going to

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00:35:10.720 cool the best part

00:35:11.620 is for current

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00:35:13.440 subscribers it'll

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00:35:15.300 the feed it's just

00:35:16.000 part of the Ben

00:35:16.580 Shapiro show it's

00:35:17.500 the new Sunday

00:35:18.040 special if you

00:35:19.140 don't subscribe to

00:35:19.740 the Ben Shapiro show

00:35:20.440 I don't believe that

00:35:21.200 because you're

00:35:21.620 watching my show

00:35:22.300 which films in his

00:35:23.080 room closet but in

00:35:24.520 any case you should

00:35:25.440 subscribe to Ben's

00:35:26.280 show the Sunday

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00:35:28.120 really really cool

00:35:28.900 this will be the

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00:35:30.760 I think you'll

00:35:31.180 really enjoy it in

00:35:32.080 the meantime you

00:35:32.560 know Daily Wire is

00:35:33.200 on Apple News I

00:35:34.500 just got my first

00:35:35.220 iPhone I was on all

00:35:36.340 these other fake

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00:35:38.260 decade and it is so

00:35:39.660 much better I'm I'm

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00:36:04.900 get all this stuff man

00:36:05.800 but none of it matters

00:36:06.560 this is what matters

00:36:08.140 right now we're gonna

00:36:09.600 have to get the crip

00:36:10.220 edition of the leftist

00:36:11.140 tears tumblr the

00:36:12.100 crips are so sad that

00:36:13.600 Kanye got Kanye'd that

00:36:15.020 he's tweeting out Thomas

00:36:15.960 soul quotes that Snoop

00:36:17.560 dog's cousin dim a lima

00:36:19.140 ding dong or whatever I

00:36:20.000 didn't read I don't know

00:36:20.580 what his name is but he

00:36:21.620 told the crips to put

00:36:22.700 out a hit on Kanye West

00:36:25.340 so look that crip

00:36:26.980 edition of the leftist

00:36:28.340 tears that's gonna be

00:36:29.080 tasty and delicious

00:36:29.860 because those guys they

00:36:30.820 put on a tough front you

00:36:31.760 know but really they can

00:36:32.780 cry look real men can

00:36:34.260 cry that's okay so make

00:36:35.980 sure you get your

00:36:36.480 leftist tears tumblr or

00:36:37.880 it will imperil your life

00:36:39.900 and your health and I

00:36:40.880 think my joking about the

00:36:41.880 crips has probably

00:36:42.480 imperiled my life and my

00:36:43.480 health go to dailywire.com

00:36:44.960 we'll be right back

00:36:45.620 okay we don't have a ton

00:37:00.680 of time left but happy

00:37:01.960 law day happy law day

00:37:03.960 everybody I might not be

00:37:05.300 the day that you have been

00:37:06.460 hearing about but it is the

00:37:07.500 60th annual law day which

00:37:09.640 is perhaps the most American

00:37:11.480 holiday law day was

00:37:13.460 proclaimed by Dwight

00:37:14.620 Eisenhower and Congress

00:37:16.400 passed the resolution for

00:37:17.840 law day three years later

00:37:19.420 this law day was first

00:37:21.240 proposed by the American

00:37:22.380 Bar Association in 1957

00:37:24.560 now I know what you're

00:37:25.500 thinking you're saying

00:37:25.880 Michael this isn't law

00:37:26.700 day it's May Day it's

00:37:28.760 International Workers

00:37:29.920 Unite Day it's the

00:37:31.240 Labor Day in all parts

00:37:32.420 yeah right no not in

00:37:33.520 America baby not in

00:37:34.880 America the reason that

00:37:36.200 we passed law day was to

00:37:38.320 suppress May Day which

00:37:40.060 is a pagan holiday that

00:37:41.320 was later appropriated by

00:37:42.400 communists and became

00:37:43.440 the International Workers

00:37:45.100 Day so only in America

00:37:47.060 only in America could we

00:37:48.640 take a pagan communist

00:37:50.100 holiday and say no we're

00:37:51.760 going to make it about

00:37:52.500 following American laws

00:37:54.120 we're going to make it a

00:37:55.140 day to celebrate the

00:37:55.840 Constitution and the

00:37:56.680 Declaration of Independence

00:37:57.560 they defined law day when

00:37:59.100 it passed as a national day

00:38:01.120 set aside to celebrate the

00:38:02.820 rule of law law day

00:38:04.280 underscores how law and the

00:38:05.820 legal process have

00:38:07.120 contributed to the freedoms

00:38:08.340 that all Americans share a

00:38:09.880 special day of celebration by

00:38:11.300 the American people in

00:38:12.720 appreciation of their

00:38:13.740 liberties and rededication to

00:38:16.020 the ideals of equality and

00:38:17.720 justice under law and I

00:38:20.760 think what went unsaid the

00:38:22.060 subtext of that was and as a

00:38:23.900 big screw you to the

00:38:25.000 communists and because May Day

00:38:27.400 was appropriated by the

00:38:30.000 International Workers Day

00:38:31.700 which was created formally in

00:38:33.620 1904 there had been

00:38:35.220 allusions to it before that by

00:38:37.200 the second international the

00:38:39.480 communist organization calling

00:38:41.900 on all social democratic party

00:38:44.100 organizations and trade unions

00:38:45.520 of all countries to

00:38:46.840 demonstrate energetically on the

00:38:48.660 first of May for the class

00:38:50.040 demands of the proletariat and

00:38:51.900 for universal peace and what

00:38:54.800 that is is fantasy it's a

00:38:56.860 fantasy that's that's the

00:38:58.180 difference between law day and

00:39:00.020 international workers day is

00:39:02.080 that the universal peace on earth

00:39:03.760 the utopia we're going back to

00:39:05.120 the Garden of Eden as long as I

00:39:06.960 have to squish a few eggs to

00:39:08.620 make an omelet and kill

00:39:09.620 millions of people to affect my

00:39:11.860 utopian vision but that's

00:39:13.160 what we're gonna have that's a

00:39:13.840 fantasy that's the devil

00:39:15.060 talking and America has law

00:39:16.760 day that's the reality actual

00:39:18.560 liberties protected by actual

00:39:20.340 institutions and actual law

00:39:21.960 May 1st had been bubbling as a

00:39:23.660 workers day since the 1880s so

00:39:25.580 a lot of countries around the

00:39:26.540 world celebrate this as a labor

00:39:27.860 day we don't do it because we

00:39:29.600 put labor day in September and

00:39:31.860 which is very lucky so we don't

00:39:33.100 get swept up in all this commie

00:39:34.460 worldwide celebration and then it

00:39:36.940 wasn't always a communist

00:39:38.040 holiday May Day is a pagan

00:39:39.440 holiday May Day you hear you

00:39:41.240 know the maypole ring or May Day

00:39:43.760 is a pagan celebration of

00:39:45.260 floralia which is the the goddess

00:39:47.380 of flowers it's an ancient pagan

00:39:49.700 holiday when Europe became

00:39:51.380 Christian May Day became either

00:39:53.900 secularized or Christianized so

00:39:56.600 you have these secular celebrations

00:39:58.420 the start of summer and you'd have

00:40:01.020 these Christian celebrations in

00:40:02.820 Germany they celebrate it as the

00:40:04.760 feast day of St. Walburga and I

00:40:07.700 don't have any German viewers

00:40:09.340 anymore after I did the show

00:40:10.840 about how Germany is the worst

00:40:11.720 country in the world but for any

00:40:13.040 of you who are still out there

00:40:13.980 happy St. Walburga Day by the

00:40:16.080 18th century this turned into

00:40:17.880 devotions to Mary it's only one

00:40:19.640 letter off so May Day became a

00:40:21.420 devotion to Mary the Virgin Mary in

00:40:24.740 recent years neo-pagans have

00:40:26.440 brought back the ancient paganism of

00:40:29.760 May Day they've started to bring it

00:40:31.900 back as paganism I think is the

00:40:33.820 fastest growing religion in

00:40:34.840 America there's when people get

00:40:37.380 hedonistic when people pretend that

00:40:38.920 there's no true religion they start

00:40:40.600 to worship all sorts of

00:40:41.600 superstitious things and that this is

00:40:43.780 a beautiful thing about America we

00:40:45.220 take pagan communist goop and we

00:40:47.520 Americanize it Christians have done

00:40:49.420 this Christians did this throughout

00:40:51.240 the spread of Western Christianity we

00:40:53.500 would take pagan traditions and we

00:40:55.420 would baptize them and make them

00:40:56.540 Christian so sometimes fundamentalists

00:40:59.100 get angry they say the Christmas tree

00:41:01.380 was a pagan Germanic ritual you say

00:41:04.840 right but now it's a Christmas tree

00:41:06.020 that's a good that's an improvement

00:41:07.720 that's a step in the right direction

00:41:09.100 when you take a pagan thing and you and

00:41:11.560 you subdue it and transform it into a

00:41:14.800 Christian thing Americans do this too

00:41:17.080 we we take holidays and we morph them

00:41:20.300 into American holidays we Americanize

00:41:22.720 them we don't negate we just build and

00:41:25.160 transform them we build them up and

00:41:27.120 we transform them that's what we have

00:41:28.400 to do in the culture because if we

00:41:30.320 don't do that if we allow if we

00:41:32.140 ignore the popular culture then we're

00:41:35.500 going to get run over by it we're

00:41:36.720 going to get hit by a bus this is why

00:41:38.240 some people are upset about Kanye West

00:41:39.980 they say we shouldn't say nice things

00:41:41.580 about Kanye because he's a crazy person

00:41:43.160 and he might turn on us yeah that's

00:41:45.220 fine but we can take that popular

00:41:47.700 culture I don't love rap music I don't

00:41:49.280 love hip-hop surprise surprise but what

00:41:51.780 you can take the little hold you can and

00:41:53.740 transform it and build it does that

00:41:56.040 mean Kanye West is going to button up

00:41:57.460 and become an Edmund Burke conservative

00:41:58.880 I'm not putting money on it but we can

00:42:02.820 take what we have of that popular

00:42:05.180 culture Kanye West wants to be an

00:42:07.060 independent thinker a free thinker be

00:42:09.560 able to have his own say and protect

00:42:10.920 his own liberties maybe Cardi B wants

00:42:13.080 to keep a little bit more of her money

00:42:14.220 I don't blame her she makes a lot of

00:42:15.460 money we take that and we can we can

00:42:18.060 use that we can transform that we can

00:42:19.660 use that to build upon and that that's

00:42:21.240 the American spirit May Day the

00:42:23.300 International Workers Day wants to tear

00:42:25.040 down tear down the hierarchies tear

00:42:27.200 down class structures tear down

00:42:29.260 civilization and what America does is

00:42:31.320 build it all up and make America

00:42:32.740 great again that's that's a good way to

00:42:34.300 celebrate all right that is our show I

00:42:37.080 will see you all tomorrow get your

00:42:38.340 mailbag questions in for Thursday in

00:42:39.740 the meantime I am Michael Knowles this

00:42:41.540 is the Michael Knowles show I'll see you

00:42:42.780 then the Michael Knowles show is a

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00:42:53.220 boring senior producer Jonathan Hay

00:42:55.560 supervising producer Mathis Glover

00:42:57.840 our technical producer is Austin

00:42:59.520 Stevens edited by Alex Zingaro audio is

00:43:02.540 mixed by Mike Coromina hair and makeup

00:43:04.680 is by Jesua Olvera copyright forward

00:43:07.320 publishing 2018

00:43:12.780 president woo

00:43:18.960 of all

00:43:19.320 the

00:43:22.100 the

00:43:24.360 movement

00:43:27.060 Adele

00:43:29.460 who

00:43:31.240 thought

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00:43:32.520 it

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The Michael Knowles Show - May 01, 2018

Ep. 148 - What I Saw In Baghwan’s Sex Cult ft. Bridget Phetasy

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