The Michael Knowles Show - Ep. 1488 - Trump's Nearly 100,000 Attendees Shatters Rally Record

00:00:00.000 President Trump held a rally down the Jersey Shore over the weekend, and news outlets,

00:00:04.680 as well as Wildwood, New Jersey officials, are reporting that his appearance drew a crowd of

00:00:10.200 between 80,000 and 100,000 people. His biggest campaign rally ever, and it took place in liberal

00:00:19.480 New Jersey. You can see all the crowds there, right there on either Maury's Pier or one of

00:00:25.920 the big Hollywood Wildwood boardwalk piers, all sorts of fun rides, and then lots and lots of

00:00:33.360 people, and the crowd swelled and swelled until you get up to that 80,000 or 100,000 number.

00:00:38.900 The unexpected rally made national headlines. Many people are shocked. Most don't know what to make

00:00:44.500 of it. I am not shocked, and I do know what to make of it, and that is because I have spent a lot

00:00:50.580 of time in Wildwood, New Jersey. Until the age of 18, I spent a lot. I don't know, three weeks a year

00:00:59.460 or more maybe in Wildwood. I smoked my first cigar in Wildwood. I was conceived in Wildwood,

00:01:05.260 and I sort of wish I didn't know that, but I do, and I was, just as many people over the years have

00:01:09.980 been conceived in Wildwood. I am not shocked by the turnout, but I understand why some people are.

00:01:15.900 The population of Wildwood is around 5,000. The surrounding towns, Wildwood Crest, Cape May,

00:01:22.440 North Wildwood, combined bring that number to around 14,000. The numbers swell during the summer

00:01:28.940 season, but it's still off-season. The season down there doesn't begin until Memorial Day.

00:01:33.840 So where do the 80,000 people come from? Atlantic City is about an hour away. Philly,

00:01:39.320 about an hour and a half. Wilmington, Delaware, I guess, is only about an hour and a half away.

00:01:43.460 I don't know who came from where, but I do know that the people who went put in an effort to be

00:01:52.300 there. And why? Why was Wildwood, New Jersey, surrounded by blue cities, the site of Trump's

00:01:59.200 biggest rally to date? Because Wildwood is a nostalgic place. Bobby Rydell sang about those

00:02:07.000 Wildwood days in the early 1960s. The first rock and roll record ever was first performed by Bill

00:02:13.880 Haley and his comments in Wildwood in 1954. Wildwood was the hot place to be in the middle 0.62

00:02:20.480 of the 20th century, as America was growing and flourishing and getting rich and having lots of

00:02:26.220 babies. Wildwood offered middle-class and even blue-collar Americans a fun, bright, totally American

00:02:34.120 beach vacation for their growing families. Wildwood is a time capsule from the absolute height of our

00:02:42.840 nation's relative wealth, power, and optimism. It is the kind of place that makes a person want to

00:02:49.220 make America great again. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.

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00:04:46.540 Meanwhile, President Biden tries to shake hand with a ghost at some speech he was giving in Tampa,

00:04:52.920 Florida. Biden walks away from the lectern. He's got his hands out to shake someone's hand,

00:04:59.840 stumbles a little, and realizes no one's there. And he looks out into the relatively small crowd.

00:05:09.720 I guess this is a rally for abortion. Rally. From the camera, it looks like there's about two dozen

00:05:16.880 people there. It says, reproductive freedom. Let's go. Let's kill those babies. And he goes to shake 0.93

00:05:21.700 hands. And it's just a ghost. I don't know what Joe Biden's seeing. He might be imagining someone

00:05:27.040 standing there. It might really be a ghost for all we know. In any case, the man no longer has

00:05:33.420 situational awareness. Yes, he's in decline. Yes, he probably has some kind of dementia.

00:05:41.240 Yes, he doesn't speak well anymore. He doesn't even have situational awareness. And that really

00:05:47.860 matters for Biden because that was the one thing he had. He never had much of an education. He never

00:05:52.620 had much in the way of convictions. He probably, you know, not the sharpest tool in the shed when it

00:05:58.600 comes to IQ. But he always, being a really successful empty suit politician, he always knew

00:06:05.800 how to glad hand. He always knew how to simper. He always knew how to win the crowd in the room and

00:06:12.280 tell them whatever they wanted to hear. He has lost that. He no longer can really read a room. He no

00:06:17.720 longer can really play to a room. He's trying to shake hands with people who aren't even there.

00:06:23.000 Bad, bad news. So the only thing they can do, especially if the Biden crowds draw, who knows,

00:06:28.340 a handful of people and the Trump crowds draw, you know, the population of the state of New Jersey

00:06:32.880 or something, they've just got to keep him to very, very tailored on-camera appearances where they

00:06:42.380 can edit the performances and avoid the big rallies. The way they were able to do that in 2020 was by

00:06:51.200 shutting down the country over COVID. There's some indication they might try to do that again.

00:06:56.960 But whichever of their tactics ultimately is successful, they just need to find some way

00:07:04.680 to make sure that this is not a campaign that is won on the campaign trail.

00:07:08.340 The one political gift Biden had, that situational awareness, that ability to flatter people in

00:07:18.020 the moment, even that is gone. So the guy is left with nothing. Now, one last speech to get to

00:07:25.000 before we move on to other news. Commencement speeches at American universities are generally

00:07:31.680 terrible in recent years. Back 150, 200 years ago, even less than that, even in the early

00:07:38.120 20th century. Commencement speeches involved serious people giving disputations in Latin,

00:07:44.600 Greek, sometimes Hebrew on serious subjects. Now, it's usually a bunch of clowns getting up, 0.97

00:07:51.000 doing a little soft shoe routine for the clapping seals who are in the audience. I'm mixing metaphors, 0.92

00:07:55.900 but it paints a picture at the very least. It's just jokes and flattery, and the whole university

00:08:03.220 system is basically a joke and flattery. You pay a quarter million dollars. For a lot of these schools,

00:08:08.160 it's very difficult to get in because everyone's applying to college. And then you don't really

00:08:11.480 learn very much there, and many of the things you learn are not true. And then you get some degree

00:08:15.500 that increasingly has little value, might even be a worthless degree at this point. So the commencement

00:08:22.440 speeches in recent years have reflected that. You lose the serious scholars, you lose the serious

00:08:26.480 statesman, you bring on Will Ferrell or somebody. Not to pick on Will Ferrell, but those kind of

00:08:32.320 speeches. So they're always terrible. The comedian speeches tend to be the worst of all because they

00:08:37.620 just show what a clown show the universities have become. And yet there was one exception over the

00:08:43.020 weekend. That would be Jerry Seinfeld. So not just a modern commencement speaker, but actually a comedian

00:08:48.760 who gave one of the best commencement speeches I have heard in years at Duke University.

00:08:55.600 Let go of this idea that you have to find this one great thing that is my passion,

00:09:02.400 my great passion with your shirt torn open and your heaving pec muscles. It's embarrassing.

00:09:09.220 Just be willing to do your work as hard as you can with the ability you have.

00:09:13.940 We don't need the heavy breathing and the outstretched arm from your passion.

00:09:17.740 It makes co-workers uncomfortable in the cubicle next to you.

00:09:22.880 Find fascination. Fascination is way better than passion. It's not so sweaty.

00:09:29.380 I will give you my three real keys to life. No jokes in this part. Okay, they are number one,

00:09:37.380 bust your ass. Number two, pay attention. Number three, fall in love. 1.00

00:09:43.260 Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful advice. I love the first part, which some of us have heard before,

00:09:50.540 but it's worth repeating. Forget about my passion, my passion, my passion. Find something that fascinates

00:09:58.540 you. What's the difference between, some people would say they're the same thing. My passion is

00:10:03.680 just what fascinates me. Not really. My passion, my passion, my passion is all about me, me, me, me,

00:10:08.560 me. It's all about some internal performance. It's all about me as detached from the rest of the

00:10:20.420 world. My economic circumstances, my social circumstances, my actual hard skills. No,

00:10:26.800 all that matters is my burning passion. No one cares about your passion. Something that fascinates

00:10:33.760 you is outside of you. It allows you to stop thinking about yourself for five seconds.

00:10:39.580 It will absorb your attention. It will inspire you to focus your efforts on this thing.

00:10:48.180 And maybe you'll be successful at it. Maybe you won't be successful at it.

00:10:51.600 If a thing fascinates you, you're more likely to be successful at it because it's about the work that

00:10:57.040 you are doing and the goal you want to achieve. It's not about being a certain type of person.

00:11:04.640 It's a subtle distinction, but Seinfeld totally nails it and he's totally right. A man wrapped up

00:11:10.460 in himself makes a small package. Indeed, hell is the place where we have nothing to do but amuse

00:11:16.020 ourselves. Focus on that thing outside of you. It's going to be much better for you. And then he gives

00:11:23.340 those beautiful pieces of advice afterward, which we'll get to in just one second. First though,

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00:12:25.800 K-N-W-L-E-S, to 98, 98, 98. That is Knowles to 98, 98, 98. He says, number one, bust your ass.

00:12:35.400 Very true. I've never seen anyone make it who doesn't work very, very hard. I used to think 1.00

00:12:41.400 when I was a kid that the people at the top didn't work very hard because they've got all their money

00:12:47.620 in their yachts and they don't need to work. It's only the people at the bottom

00:12:51.180 who have to work really hard. The people at the top, you work so that you don't need to work.

00:12:55.700 You make all that money so you don't need to work anymore. Not true, in my experience. The people at

00:13:00.380 the top work very, very hard. Usually they work harder than anybody else. He's right about it.

00:13:08.580 Jerry Seinfeld obviously has done that. Jerry Seinfeld easily could have retired in what,

00:13:12.440 1999 with zillions and zillions of dollars. And no, he keeps going out, hitting the road.

00:13:19.320 He keeps doing movies. Sometimes they flop. Sometimes they're better than others. He's

00:13:23.620 giving commencement speeches. The guy just keeps working. Number two, pay attention. This is related

00:13:29.640 to his bigger advice at the top. Pay attention. Be focused on other things. And he says, look,

00:13:37.260 my whole life I've just been focused on little trivialities. What's the deal with airline food?

00:13:42.300 That kind of stuff. But by paying attention, by paying a little bit more attention than the

00:13:47.240 people around him, he gets a little bit of an advantage. For him, it's in comedy. For you,

00:13:52.980 it could be in engineering or accounting or welding or I don't know, whatever it is you do. But if you

00:13:57.720 pay attention, you get those details and you recognize that knowledge is power and knowledge

00:14:03.600 is a prerequisite for freedom even because freedom is willing, predicated on understanding.

00:14:10.320 You're going to have an advantage. And then number three, this is the most beautiful thing.

00:14:16.260 He says, fall in love. And this is not sappy. This is not saccharine. This is not

00:14:20.720 mamby-pamby stuff. Fall in love because your desire is what's going to shape your character.

00:14:32.060 Fall in love because charity is not only a virtue, it's a theological virtue. Not only a theological

00:14:37.740 virtue, it's the greatest of all virtues, without which we're nothing but a clanging symbol.

00:14:43.800 And fall in love because our loves are going to define where we end up.

00:14:50.160 I also gave a graduation speech over the weekend and I gave it at a homeschool co-op, a homeschool

00:14:58.600 hybrid system with one graduate. I was asked to do it and I said, I love the idea of it so much

00:15:04.680 that I did it. I gave a graduation speech to one person. And coincidentally, this was the topic that

00:15:14.020 I was speaking on. Very similar to what Jerry Seinfeld was talking about. The difference between

00:15:20.020 the greatest sinners and the greatest saints is not necessarily their degrees of education. It's not

00:15:26.380 necessarily their intelligence. There have been very, very intelligent sinners before. The difference

00:15:31.520 is their loves, where their love is oriented. Do you love the good and you're drawn toward the good?

00:15:38.740 You know, like Dante says at the end of the Divine Comedy in Heaven, he says, and I could feel

00:15:45.540 my soul turning as a wheel. It was all beginning to turn by the love that moves the sun and the other

00:15:54.000 stars. Or is your love oriented toward selfish things, toward temporal things, toward material things,

00:16:03.160 toward things that are not going to serve you in the long run? Fall in love, Jerry says. And this is very

00:16:08.460 important. In our modern age, we're told, you know, suppress your loves, deny your desires. No, no,

00:16:14.320 no. You got to, you got to, it's all, it's all about love. It's all about desire. You've just got to

00:16:18.580 make sure that, that love is in the right place. Not all love is equal. I know we say love is love

00:16:25.100 these days. Uh-uh. No, there are different kinds of love and different orientations of love and

00:16:30.320 different, different, um, those, those, those can make all the difference in your life. Beautiful speech.

00:16:35.500 He also, just a few other bangers before he, before we move on from Jerry.

00:16:39.900 He tells the graduates they should embrace privilege. He says, today we're embarrassed

00:16:44.440 about things we should be proud of and proud of things we should be embarrassed about.

00:16:47.720 Beautiful way to put it. Chestertonian, if you ask me. So true. We're embarrassed that our parents

00:16:54.400 gave, gave some of us a better life than others. You know, our privilege, right? We're embarrassed if we

00:16:59.860 grew up in a good neighborhood. We're, we're embarrassed if we have white skin. We're embarrassed if we, 0.95

00:17:05.140 no, I'm this, you, you should never be embarrassed about your family. You should never be embarrassed

00:17:14.040 about some aspect of your ethnicity or that you, you can't change. You didn't choose. You don't need

00:17:21.040 to be embarrassed about that. You should never be embarrassed that you had parents who gave you a

00:17:26.680 good upbringing that you should, you shouldn't be embarrassed about privilege, period. You want,

00:17:31.020 I want my kids to have privilege. I, I want to work to make sure my kids have privilege.

00:17:35.000 And ideally more privileged than I had. We all should do that. It's not that we want,

00:17:41.700 we shouldn't deny privilege. We should use it responsibly, but we don't act responsibly.

00:17:46.860 That's why we're proud of things we should be embarrassed by. Think of what we're proud of

00:17:50.380 these days. We're probably have a whole month where we were proud of all the weird sex stuff

00:17:54.560 that people do. That's not, that's one of the things we should not be proud of. Perfect,

00:17:59.700 perfect observation from Seinfeld here. Then he says, don't lose your sense of humor. It's an

00:18:06.520 essential surviving quality. It is worth the occasional feeling of discomfort to have some

00:18:10.560 laughs. So true. This affects people on the right, even as it does on the left. The left is humorless.

00:18:17.980 The right has a problem with this too, though. Some people on the right, they just want to be so

00:18:23.000 angry all the time. And they, you don't understand they, the evil they out there, they're destroying

00:18:30.060 our lives and we need to be angry and pull our hairs out. Nah, man, man. And who is they? Well,

00:18:36.540 it's the Democrats. It's the leftists. It's the globalists. It's the, this is, some people would say

00:18:41.860 it's the Jews. You always, that's one of the recurring prejudices that crops up in history,

00:18:46.480 or it's the UN or it's the WEF or it's the whatever. But ultimately, if you follow that back

00:18:53.100 far enough, it's concupiscence. It's the, it's the fallen state of the world. It's because Adam in the

00:19:01.100 garden ate an apple. That's really what it comes down to. So it's a fallen world and there are all,

00:19:07.800 all sorts of, I'm not denying that we individually and we collectively and we, we all contribute to

00:19:15.060 that fallen nature because we commit sins. But you're not, that's not going away anytime soon.

00:19:23.940 That can be redeemed and is redeemed, in fact, if you believe as I do in the crucifixion, the harrowing

00:19:31.420 of hell and the resurrection and the ascension and the second, in second coming, the end of the world,

00:19:35.940 you definitely believe in that this will be redeemed. But in the meantime, it's a fallen world.

00:19:40.440 The only way to get through the fallen world without pulling your hair out is hope, the theological

00:19:47.020 virtue and faith and charity. But second only to those virtues, humor, have a sense of humor because

00:19:54.460 things are a little off. We all know that things are a little off. We all know that things are not

00:19:58.240 as they should be. So you'll laugh or you cry. Great, great point. Now, speaking of funny things,

00:20:08.240 some, and speaking of the Jews, I guess, some, some Princeton libs are out on a hunger strike because

00:20:14.840 they hate the state of Israel so much and they're really upset. And so they're, they're on a hunger

00:20:18.840 strike at Princeton. They're, they're boycotting their eating clubs this week and they're complaining

00:20:25.300 that they're hungry. This is absolutely unfair.

00:20:31.600 My peers and I, we are starving. We are physically exhausted. I am quite literally shaking right now,

00:20:39.060 as you can see. We are both cold and hot at the same time. We are all immunocompromised.

00:20:46.420 And based on the university's meeting yesterday with some of our bargaining team,

00:20:50.520 they would love to continue physically weakening us because they can't stand to say no to unjust murder.

00:20:59.820 I will say, I truly do not feel like I'm doing anything special. This is my choice and I would

00:21:11.400 not spend my birthday doing anything other than being here and standing in solidarity with you all

00:21:17.340 and standing in solidarity with our siblings and innocent people in Gaza.

00:21:22.480 Okay. She's right about a couple of things. One, she's not doing anything special. That's true.

00:21:26.260 Two, this is exactly what she'd like to be doing on her birthday. This is how she's oriented her love.

00:21:31.420 And there are all sorts of psychobabble reasons that I could go into about how these Princeton kids

00:21:37.200 ended up doing this, but I'll, I'll avoid the temptation to, to read their minds. I'll just observe

00:21:45.120 their actions. They chose to be there. They chose to go on a hunger strike and then they

00:21:49.020 whine and complain about it. Then they blame the administration. The administration is forcing us.

00:21:54.760 No, they're not. You're choosing to go on a hunger strike. And in this case, I don't, I think there

00:21:59.860 are many other better reasons to go on a hunger strike, but you think this is a good cause. Okay.

00:22:03.340 Well, if you're going to do it, then how about you suffer silently, darling? You know,

00:22:06.700 how about you kiss it up to God? No, you can't. You got to make a big show about it.

00:22:10.760 Even though you're the one starving yourself. Reminds me one time I was giving a speech at

00:22:14.920 Loyola Marymount with Drew Clavin. And at one point, these black students came in and they had

00:22:19.720 duct tape over their face. And I don't know why they were angry. I don't know why the black student 0.67

00:22:23.060 organization was angry at me. I don't think I'd said anything to offend them. Otherwise, other than

00:22:26.520 maybe I made fun of BLM or something. Usually it's the transvestites who protest me. But in this case, 1.00

00:22:31.700 it was these black students and they put tape on their mouths. They probably didn't even know who 0.97

00:22:35.340 Drew and I were. They just heard conservatives are here and conservatives are awful, terrible racists. So they 0.99

00:22:39.400 came in. They said, we're being silenced. And I said, hey, any of the kids with the tape on your

00:22:43.260 mouths, here's the microphone. Whatever you think you're being censored from saying, here you go.

00:22:49.180 Here's the mic. You can say whatever you want. Anybody want to take the mic? Not one person. Not

00:22:53.280 one person came up. Because they put the tape on themselves. And they put the tape on themselves

00:23:00.180 as a big performance. They were so upset that in theory, they had been prevented from

00:23:05.740 speaking that they didn't actually come up with anything to say. They didn't have anything to say.

00:23:13.600 Just a big performance because it carried some social currency and because they didn't know what

00:23:20.100 else to do. Because they hadn't, getting back to our first point, they hadn't really cultivated their

00:23:25.580 loves. They didn't know what they want. They know things they hate. They don't really know what they

00:23:29.560 love. They don't, other than tearing things down, I guess. They don't really know what they love.

00:23:36.600 They don't have a good and reasonable and sturdy destination to which their love can propel them.

00:23:47.420 You know, one of my favorite things that I'm doing these days is the Michael And series of long

00:23:51.400 interviews. In this series, I've covered an array of topics. This episode might be the most shocking

00:23:57.060 yet. I sat down with Dr. Robert Epstein, the former editor-in-chief of Psychology Today,

00:24:01.160 about the control that big tech has over the minds of people around the world. If you were not notified

00:24:06.220 that we released the episode this weekend, after watching the episode, you may have an idea why.

00:24:11.300 Here's a quick teaser. We published a landmark study in which we show bias in Google search results can

00:24:18.660 change people's views about anything at all. How bad is it? I gave a briefing, a private briefing,

00:24:26.940 a few minutes later, one of them walked out. I know exactly who it was. And he walked up to me

00:24:30.520 and said, Dr. Epstein, based on what you just told us, I predict you're going to be killed in some sort

00:24:35.820 of accident in the next few months. But a few months later, my beautiful, amazing wife was killed in a

00:24:44.360 horrendous car accident.

00:24:47.980 Are you deterred at all?

00:24:50.480 Yes. Then there's another part of me, which is the science guy. Every single thing we do is

00:24:56.240 relevant to everything that's happening right now. With the algorithms shifting the views of people

00:25:03.040 who are undecided on some issue or other around the world by the billions.

00:25:09.880 Now what? 1.00

00:25:10.380 We are fucked, okay? 0.97

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00:25:44.040 Daily Wire Plus. Speaking of looking ridiculous, a trans-identifying soccer referee 1.00

00:25:51.820 has just become a soccer manager. Still trans-identifying, but he's transitioned from 0.95

00:25:59.820 referee to manager. This guy goes by Lucy Clark. I don't know what his real name is. He's the first

00:26:04.500 openly transgender referee who's now the first trans manager in the top five divisions of English

00:26:12.200 women's soccer. In British English, that's called football, but in real English, we call it soccer. 0.71

00:26:20.760 So J.K. Rowling, the author of Harry Potter, had a funny tweet about this. She said,

00:26:25.560 when I was young, all the football managers were straight, white, middle-aged blokes,

00:26:29.420 so it's fantastic to see how much things have changed. And then there was an article in the Daily

00:26:35.780 Mail. Daily Mail, British paper. It's got a picture of this trans-identifying guy who is like real. He

00:26:43.900 looks real manly and real British. You can kind of tell in the face and a little bit in the teeth.

00:26:51.720 No knock on the Brits, but they don't have great dental care there. And he's got a wig on. He just

00:26:57.180 looks like a big British dude with a wig on. And the headline says, J.K. Rowling is accused of

00:27:03.000 cruelty as she mocks transgender football manager by comparing her to a straight, white, middle-aged

00:27:08.240 bloke. At which point, J.K. Rowling responds and says, I didn't compare him to one. He is one.

00:27:16.180 And what strikes me about this is not even the trans issue, which I'm so sick of talking about. 0.88

00:27:22.220 It's the breakdown of interpretation. J.K. Rowling's correction here of the Daily Mail is not

00:27:32.200 an anthropological correction so much as it's a grammatical and rhetorical correction.

00:27:39.160 The Daily Mail, when they say she compares this woman to this man, she says, no, it's not.

00:27:46.200 J.K. Rowling is not comparing anyone. J.K. Rowling is just describing the person.

00:27:52.320 He is a man. This means that we have a crisis of meaning. And I think we all know that we have a

00:27:59.380 crisis of meaning. We don't know how to compare things anymore. We don't know what things really

00:28:04.000 are. This is why we ask the question, what is a woman? This is why we all misuse the word literally.

00:28:09.660 You know, every, it used to be just teenage white girls. Now it's all of society would misuse literally 1.00

00:28:14.620 and say, oh man, that literally killed me. Oh, this food is literally the greatest thing I've ever had in my

00:28:21.600 whole life. Oh, this is literally, literally, I'm literally dead. If you're speaking, you are of 1.00

00:28:27.520 course not literally dead. I hope. But unless you're Joe Biden, I guess. In that case, you might

00:28:33.160 be literally dead and still, still reanimated somehow by some evil principalities and powers.

00:28:37.640 And the word literally, as I've observed before, not just to be cute, because it tells you something

00:28:43.260 about interpretation, about meaning. The word literally is a confounding word because literally,

00:28:47.580 Andrew Klavan has made this point. Literally refers to letters and letters are signs and symbols. So

00:28:52.900 even the word literally has this implicit suggestion that there's more to the world than just what we

00:29:02.220 would call literal. So we got to take a little trip back to understand how we got to the point

00:29:07.420 where the British newspaper doesn't know what a man is and doesn't know what comparison is.

00:29:13.080 We have to take a little trip back to the Middle Ages and think about the four kinds of interpretation

00:29:18.740 that in the Middle Ages were commonly understood that we've since forgotten.

00:29:23.700 When you would examine a text in the Middle Ages, especially the Bible, the four things you would

00:29:30.820 think about are the literal meaning, just the most basic intentional meaning you can come up with of

00:29:40.680 the text, followed by the allegorical or typological meaning, followed by the moral meaning,

00:29:47.980 followed by what is called the anagogical meaning, anagogical meaning pertaining to the end times.

00:29:54.620 So to make that concrete, you think about the book of Exodus. What is literally the story of the

00:30:01.400 book of Exodus? Literally the story is the Israelites leave Egypt and they go to the promised land.

00:30:09.140 They go to what is now the nation state of Israel. Okay, that's the literal meaning.

00:30:13.980 What is the allegorical or typological meaning? The allegorical or typological is looking back in

00:30:22.820 the past to understand the present, to see a figure of the present in the past. So the allegorical meaning

00:30:31.380 would be that, you know, God takes the, the, his people from slavery into freedom, slavery in Egypt into

00:30:43.080 freedom in the promised land. Okay. And so the allegorical meaning would be that, that God, when he becomes

00:30:49.840 man in Christ, brings his people from slavery and the bondage of sin into true freedom. That's the,

00:30:59.940 that's the, this is why Exodus is a kind of a figure of, of the salvation that Christ brings.

00:31:06.940 Okay. What's the moral meaning? The moral, you know, what's the moral of the story? The moral meaning is

00:31:11.760 we should follow God, even when it's inconvenient, even when we have to give up things that we consider

00:31:18.700 to be comforts, things that we're attached to. There are plenty of Israelites in Egypt who did

00:31:24.500 not want to go follow this guy, Moses through the desert, give up all their nice material possessions

00:31:29.100 and go starve in the desert potentially in search of some promised land that they were told they had.

00:31:34.340 But the faithful ones did it and it's a good thing that they did. And then finally the anagogical as it

00:31:41.620 pertains to the end times. Anagogical relating the present to the future. Well, I guess the anagogical is

00:31:49.980 that we're, we're all kind of in exile, right? We're all in Exodus. The, the, the Exodus is kind of the figure

00:31:55.880 of history and we're, we're here. This is, this is not real. This earth is not really our country. We're pilgrims

00:32:03.280 and we're going to another place. Our true home is in heaven. Our true home is with God. And we're

00:32:10.680 here passing through as pilgrims on this fallen world to get to the true promised land, which is

00:32:15.000 not the nation state of Israel. The true promised land is the kingdom of God. Okay, there you go. 0.50

00:32:20.800 That's a very basic way of understanding, of interpreting at four different levels, this,

00:32:27.100 this book of the Bible. We don't do any of that anymore, do we? Four different meanings,

00:32:32.780 all on top of each other. We don't really do that anymore. And the reason we don't do that is in

00:32:38.180 the Daily Mail tweet, which is we deny meaning. This is why everything's got to be literal. This

00:32:45.960 is why everything's got to be material now. This is why when we really are trying to talk about the

00:32:49.960 soul or the spirit, we talk about like the brain. I'm going to upload my brain. We make everything

00:32:55.380 physical. Even when we talk about spiritual discomforts with regard to our sexuality,

00:33:01.840 we now make it all physical in the transgender ideology. We say, oh, it's, yeah, we, it's,

00:33:06.740 there's just an imbalance and I've got to chop up my body to be more like my true self.

00:33:11.600 We, at an even deeper level than that, we deny that there's such a thing as objective truth.

00:33:17.760 That's why we use phrases like your truth and my truth. And we can, we never seem to be able

00:33:21.340 to reason about anything anymore. It makes me think of it. There's a painting by René Magritte

00:33:27.260 called The Treachery of Images. You might've seen it. It's a painting of a pipe and it says,

00:33:31.040 this is not a pipe. It's a picture of a pipe. It says, this is not a pipe. I was talking to my

00:33:37.200 friend Spencer Clavin about this. And he said, well, you know, that image, it's not just that it's a bad

00:33:42.840 painting. It's, it's downright satanic. And the reason it's a satanic painting is because it denies

00:33:50.300 the relation between symbol and symbolized. There's a, there's a symbol of a pipe, which is the

00:33:56.200 painting of the pipe. But then the painting says, this is not a pipe. There's no connection between

00:34:00.300 symbol and symbolized. My body is a symbol of my soul, right? There was, there's the, the physical

00:34:08.460 world has a metaphysical meaning or we're all just warm food and we're all just, we're all just going

00:34:16.080 to take a dirt nap someday. But that's, that's not it. It's so, it's not, the crisis of meaning is not

00:34:24.340 just that we don't understand what a woman is. We don't understand what a woman is because we have a 1.00

00:34:29.520 crisis of meaning and that threatens everything. Because if, if, if nothing in this world means

00:34:34.660 anything, then what are we living for? We throw out morality. We throw out any sense of duty. We

00:34:39.800 throw out glory and honor. We throw out love. What's the point of love? It's all just, this is

00:34:45.760 why the modern materialist people, they talk about love as an illusion, just little chemicals firing

00:34:49.780 off in your brain. It's all fake. Then what's the point of life? You, you lose the very point of life

00:34:57.640 if you don't recognize that, that things are not merely what they appear, that there's in a way,

00:35:07.960 maybe the transgender activists understand this, where they say, you know, that, that husky looking 1.00

00:35:13.020 man over there, he's not really what he appears. But that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is

00:35:16.420 things are not merely what they appear. They are often what they appear. There is a literal meaning,

00:35:21.060 but then there's more to that. There's allegory. There's morality. There is the anagogical meaning.

00:35:26.940 The story is going to end at some point. And very often we only understand the meaning of the story

00:35:32.800 when we look backwards. There's people at the end of their life coming to some sense of what

00:35:36.280 their life has meant. If you lose that, then we're all just wandering around like a bunch of idiots. 1.00

00:35:41.780 And we, we say that life is nothing but a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying 1.00

00:35:46.520 nothing. Not a good way to live. And what you should do, one, one thing that will help your living 1.00

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00:35:55.660 Ring that bell. Now on the flip side of famous women, you have JK Rowling speaking a lot of sense. 0.73

00:36:04.520 We also have Jennifer Lawrence who is fully embracing the rainbow agenda up to and including

00:36:11.780 calling Mike Pence gay. I was in love with a homosexual. It was my first love. I tried to 0.99

00:36:18.820 convert him for years, but now I know conversion therapy doesn't work. Did you hear me, Mike Pence?

00:36:27.560 I said, conversion therapy isn't real.

00:36:33.980 Even though I know you think it worked on you.

00:36:36.140 This is kind of a new one to me. I mean, I've heard this kind of line all the time. This is all

00:36:43.600 what the left and the pro LGBT people say. They say, if you, if you disapprove of, you know, a fella 0.96

00:36:50.480 dressing up like a chick and then reading books to little children in the library, you're probably 0.99

00:36:56.280 secretly gay. If you disapprove of our extremely decadent, disordered lifestyle, you probably have it 1.00

00:37:04.040 or desire it or something, but I never heard it about Mike Pence. Does any, does anybody seriously

00:37:09.400 believe that Mike Pence wants to go, you know, hit the local gay bars? He wants to go hit the

00:37:15.400 local drag queen story hour? No, I don't think so. He just, he just disapproves of that kind of stuff.

00:37:21.460 Even, I don't know, they made it out like Mike Pence was, you know, affixing electrodes to 0.99

00:37:26.260 homosexuals and zapping them until they weren't gay anymore or something. That isn't true. 0.98

00:37:31.500 So that's, that's almost entirely made up. He's just, he's just publicly disapproved of this kind

00:37:37.260 of behavior. And, and for that great sin, he, you know, they, they malign him in all sorts of ways.

00:37:43.340 They did that to Pence a lot though. Remember that time they called Mike Pence a misogynist for

00:37:47.660 refusing to cheat on his wife. He wouldn't go on dinner dates with young women. Isn't that man?

00:37:52.920 He's a misogynist. He won't even cheat on his wife. But, but now they're saying he's gay. 0.99

00:37:56.960 Okay. Okay. Why? What is this about? This is not about Mike Pence or even the LGBT stuff.

00:38:03.120 This too is about a denial of reason. This, this too, because what Jennifer Lawrence, 0.87

00:38:10.640 what all the libs who say this kind of stuff are, are implying is that one can never

00:38:16.300 have disinterested approval of anything. If you disapprove of something, it must be

00:38:25.000 because you secretly desire that thing. That's the only explanation in liberal, because in liberalism,

00:38:33.120 you're just supposed to let anyone do whatever they want. Of course, in practice, that's not what they,

00:38:37.840 they, they don't want to let a, they don't want to let women have their own sports leagues. 1.00

00:38:41.300 They disapprove of that. You know, they don't want to let us have our nice just families and live our

00:38:46.520 lives normally and raise the American flag and, you know, have hot dogs on the 4th of July. They

00:38:50.340 don't want to let us, they don't want to let us run businesses normally. They don't want to let us

00:38:53.820 speak on college campuses. They don't want, so there are plenty of things that they disapprove of

00:38:57.900 that they don't secretly desire necessarily. But that's what they say about us. They say,

00:39:04.860 if, if in any way, if you oppose the rainbow stuff, you're a secret homosexual or transvestite or 0.99

00:39:10.720 something. It's the, because why? Because you can't, what they're implying is you can't know 0.98

00:39:20.940 anything that you are not actively or passionately involved in. We know this isn't true. You don't

00:39:26.740 need to suffer cancer to be an oncologist. You don't need to be covered in third degree burns to

00:39:33.260 become a firefighter. You, but, but the way to, the way to have that sort of disinterested approval,

00:39:45.440 disapproval rather, is to use your reason to just figure out what a, what a thing would be like to

00:39:52.300 know something about that thing through our reason objectively, rather than through our direct

00:39:55.920 experience. The libs can't do this. Liberalism is about empirical experience. Ultimately, it,

00:40:01.960 it comes to a denial of reason, a reason that destroys itself, that destroys its own basis by

00:40:07.640 denying the source of our reason, which is the intelligence that created the universe.

00:40:11.760 And so they end up with this. Mike, apparently Mike Pence is gay. News to me, probably news to Mike Pence. 0.99

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00:41:47.500 Prince Z413 had my favorite comment last week. It says, voting for a Kennedy is like voting for

00:41:54.680 a Clinton. Enough is enough. That's really true, actually, in that both the Clintons and the Kennedys

00:41:58.680 present themselves as moderate Democrats, but they continue generally to move left with the Democrat

00:42:06.460 Party because they don't really stand for all that much at all. They're just kind of

00:42:09.500 avatars of the Democrat establishment. That's true. It's a real indictment of conservatism

00:42:16.060 that any conservatives have considered voting for Robert F. Kennedy in 2024. Now, that's probably out

00:42:25.160 because Kennedy embraced abortion up until the moment of birth. He's trying to walk that back now,

00:42:30.120 but maybe we'll get to that if we have time. But real indictment. Okay, guys, what is it going to be

00:42:36.380 next? We're going to be voting for Malia Obama. We'll say, you know, I longed for the good old 0.50

00:42:40.800 days when Democrats were reasonable, like under Barack Obama. I just want to go back to the good

00:42:47.240 old days when men were using women's bathrooms and they were in women's sports leagues, but it 0.97

00:42:54.380 wasn't mandatory that we watch them strip naked all the time. I just want to go back to the good old.

00:43:00.260 No, we're just moving the culture further to the left. It's pathetic. No Kennedys. No Kennedys, 0.99

00:43:05.000 no Obamas, no Clintons, no libs. We got to be conservative. Now, speaking of saucy accusations

00:43:15.480 on the old libidinous front, we turn from Jennifer Lawrence to Stormy Daniels. Stormy Daniels is now

00:43:24.380 alleging that Donald Trump metooed her basically, you know, that he pressured her. She didn't know

00:43:29.560 what to do. She was this little wallflower and she somehow ended up in Donald Trump's hotel room and

00:43:34.120 she didn't know how she got here. She was so scared. Oh, she was nervous. She was sweating.

00:43:38.940 And Bill Maher, a liberal who's not with us, but he's somewhat more reasonable than the

00:43:44.280 leftists. Bill Maher just calls BS.

00:43:48.100 Why did you f*** Donald Trump? 0.99

00:43:50.160 I have no idea. 0.98

00:43:54.440 Okay, but you say it's not a Me Too case.

00:43:56.520 It is not a Me Too case. I mean, I wasn't assaulted. I wasn't attacked or raped or coerced or

00:44:03.940 blackmailed. They tried to shove me in the Me Too box to further their own agenda. And first of all,

00:44:09.300 I didn't want any part of that because it's not the truth and I'm not a victim in that regard.

00:44:14.260 That's not what she's saying now.

00:44:17.940 She's talking about he was bigger and blocking the way. It's all the Me Too buzzwords.

00:44:23.440 She said there was a power imbalance of power for sure. My hands were shaking so hard.

00:44:29.680 She said she blacked out. Blacked out? She's a porn star. 1.00

00:44:34.960 She's... I don't think sex... 1.00

00:44:38.240 That doesn't mean she's been subjected to the likes of Donald Trump.

00:44:43.720 Well, I might black out too.

00:44:47.340 That's the job. It's kind of like Stormy Bob. Bob Stormy. F***.

00:44:52.520 Action. And let's go and we're losing the light. 0.99

00:44:56.820 So I just think this is... I just think she's not a good witness.

00:45:00.360 She's not a good witness and Bill Maher's totally right here. That first clip that you heard is from Bill Maher's show in 2018 when she said,

00:45:07.180 yeah, it wasn't Me Too'd. I'm not a victim in any way. I slept with Trump. You know, I slept with about a billion people.

00:45:14.180 Didn't think twice about it. But now, Bill Maher observes, now it's... The story's changed a little.

00:45:20.980 Oh, he blocked the door. Oh, there was a power imbalance. Whatever.

00:45:24.320 However, Stormy Daniels is obviously a liar. We know she's a liar because she signed an official statement years ago saying, 1.00

00:45:32.820 I did not sleep with Donald Trump and I did not receive any hush money payments. 0.52

00:45:35.840 I couldn't have received a hush money payment because I didn't sleep with Donald Trump.

00:45:38.680 So there was nothing to hush up.

00:45:41.020 She signed that official statement. Now she's saying, oh yeah, I lied about that.

00:45:44.520 I was lying then.

00:45:46.060 And I was lying for money.

00:45:48.360 And now I'm totally telling the truth.

00:45:50.500 Even though now I also stand to make a lot of money by changing my story, I'm totally telling the truth now. 0.97

00:45:55.420 No, she's a liar. 1.00

00:45:56.840 She was lying then or she's lying now or she's just the kind of person who lies when it suits her. 1.00

00:46:02.760 And to Bill's point, she is a prostitute and she's not... 1.00

00:46:05.980 I'm all for redemption and I don't think anybody is beyond redemption. 0.95

00:46:10.680 And I don't just...

00:46:11.920 You know, when I go on the podcasts with the OnlyFans girls,

00:46:15.400 I'm the one who's not making fun of them and not castigating them.

00:46:18.780 But there has to be some repentance.

00:46:24.160 Repentance is the key here.

00:46:26.740 The point is not that prostitution is great and we shouldn't, you know, don't judge man.

00:46:32.180 No, no, no.

00:46:32.600 You very much should judge the sin and recognize that we're all sinners and all fall short of the glory of God.

00:46:38.160 And we can turn away from our sin and God's grace is available to all of us.

00:46:42.060 But you got it.

00:46:42.540 You have to repent.

00:46:43.660 And as far as I can tell, Stormy Daniels is totally unrepentant. 1.00

00:46:46.380 And she is the kind of woman who would do anything, including degrade herself for money for her whole career. 0.98

00:46:52.840 And she doesn't seem to have repented of that at all. 1.00

00:46:55.840 And on top of that, we know that she's a liar. 0.97

00:46:57.820 And to Bill's point, she's a bad witness. 0.97

00:46:59.940 She's just a bad witness, period. 1.00

00:47:01.560 So, is she lying now? 0.99

00:47:05.980 Look, the case is ridiculous. 0.90

00:47:07.880 And the fact that she's such a terrible witness is actually good for the Trump campaign. 0.97

00:47:12.480 And most people know the whole thing is rigged and is just a political witch hunt.

00:47:18.560 However, I want to raise another possibility, which is maybe she's not lying.

00:47:22.900 Maybe when she uses all this Me Too language, maybe she sincerely believes it. 0.99

00:47:26.460 But she might.

00:47:28.600 And you know how I know she might?

00:47:29.620 Because people's memories change over time.

00:47:31.520 Because this incident allegedly happened in 2006.

00:47:34.340 And it's been 18 years since 2006.

00:47:37.700 And sometimes people's feelings about things change.

00:47:41.320 Sometimes people's recollections change.

00:47:44.000 Memories, especially as they're that far in the past, become notoriously unreliable.

00:47:48.860 This is why we don't admit this kind of evidence in court generally.

00:47:52.760 It's why we have statutes of limitations on crimes.

00:47:56.460 Until recently, until the Me Too moral panic.

00:47:59.020 And then we got rid of all the statutes of limitations.

00:48:01.720 And as a result of that, there was a lot of injustice done.

00:48:06.560 Basic facts about human nature.

00:48:09.220 Feelings change, people change, memories are unreliable.

00:48:12.820 We've thrown those out.

00:48:14.940 We've thrown those out in the pursuit of some virtue.

00:48:19.460 Not even just some vice.

00:48:20.820 It reminds me of that Chesterton line.

00:48:22.780 The modern world is not so bad because it's so evil.

00:48:25.560 But in some ways, because it's so good.

00:48:27.180 It's not just the vices.

00:48:28.260 It's the virtues.

00:48:28.880 When a religious scheme is shattered, it's not just the vices that run wild.

00:48:32.040 But the virtues as well.

00:48:33.000 And the vices run more wildly.

00:48:35.840 And they do more terrible damage.

00:48:37.720 Because they're isolated and alone.

00:48:40.020 That's what you're seeing take place now. 0.98

00:48:43.700 Or Stormy's a total liar. 1.00

00:48:44.820 But even if she's not a total liar, there's still a reason to have statutes of limitations. 0.95

00:48:48.420 And not trust people's 20-year-old memories.

00:48:52.100 There's so much more to get to.

00:48:54.080 Before some of the stories that I really want to get to today, though, I've got to take a pause.

00:48:59.380 Because our Daily Wire comedy, Burcham, launched yesterday.

00:49:04.860 Very, very exciting.

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00:49:07.120 Daily Wire Plus.

00:49:07.900 Terrific show.

00:49:08.600 Adam Carolla.

00:49:09.420 You're going to love it.

00:49:10.940 The most important thing, though, is one of the cast members of that show, Roseanne Barr, who I've been a fan of for a very long time.

00:49:18.080 And I got to spend a little bit of time with at the premiere party in Los Angeles.

00:49:21.480 Roseanne Barr then shows up on the show of another friend of mine, Megyn Kelly, smoking my cigar. 1.00

00:49:29.160 I'm going to start referring to myself as the artist formerly known as Roseanne.

00:49:34.380 Oh, I like that.

00:49:34.860 I really have thought about that.

00:49:36.420 Okay.

00:49:36.620 And I'm thinking, it's this kind of an age.

00:49:40.400 And Principal Bortles is that.

00:49:42.760 She kind of is a George Burns kind of character.

00:49:45.840 Roseanne's holding a cigar.

00:49:46.740 And I've always loved George Burns.

00:49:48.240 Well, because I told you, the nicotine thing.

00:49:50.980 You know, these are nicotine leaves.

00:49:54.960 Michael Knowles set you up.

00:49:56.020 He was there last night distributing his favorite cigars.

00:49:58.580 And this is, I believe, a Michael Knowles offering we have here.

00:50:01.760 I saw it there on the table.

00:50:03.520 It was wrapped in plastic, and I said that God is providing me with a way to satisfy my

00:50:09.200 great craving for nicotine right now.

00:50:12.220 How long have you been off the cigarettes?

00:50:14.320 Because it is so, God, six months.

00:50:18.140 Because I haven't been near a comedy club.

00:50:20.560 But as soon as I get around comics, I've got to smoke.

00:50:24.340 See?

00:50:25.040 Do you do the vaping at all?

00:50:26.060 Is that in any way satisfactory?

00:50:28.180 He's chewing on it.

00:50:29.140 She's chewing on it.

00:50:30.080 No, because it releases tobacco direct.

00:50:36.460 I owe Roseanne an apology.

00:50:38.920 When we were chatting, I didn't realize that Roseanne, I should have realized.

00:50:43.680 I didn't realize she was a fan of cigars.

00:50:45.360 So I'm glad she was able to swipe a Mayflower cigar from the table at the premiere.

00:50:49.720 But we've got to get a box of Mayflowers to Roseanne pronto.

00:50:52.180 Okay, and you've got to go check out Roseanne's new show with Megyn Kelly, with Adam Carolla,

00:50:57.000 with a lot of great people, Mr. Burcham at Daily Wire+.

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The Michael Knowles Show - May 13, 2024

Ep. 1488 - Trump's Nearly 100,000 Attendees Shatters Rally Record

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