The Michael Knowles Show - May 13, 2024


Ep. 1488 - Trump's Nearly 100,000 Attendees Shatters Rally Record


Episode Stats

Length

51 minutes

Words per Minute

170.50723

Word Count

8,788

Sentence Count

751

Misogynist Sentences

18

Hate Speech Sentences

23


Summary

Trump held his biggest campaign rally ever in Wildwood, New Jersey, and it drew a crowd of 80,000 to 100,000 people. Meanwhile, President Joe Biden tries to shake hands with some people in Tampa, Florida.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 President Trump held a rally down the Jersey Shore over the weekend, and news outlets,
00:00:04.680 as well as Wildwood, New Jersey officials, are reporting that his appearance drew a crowd of
00:00:10.200 between 80,000 and 100,000 people. His biggest campaign rally ever, and it took place in liberal
00:00:19.480 New Jersey. You can see all the crowds there, right there on either Maury's Pier or one of
00:00:25.920 the big Hollywood Wildwood boardwalk piers, all sorts of fun rides, and then lots and lots of
00:00:33.360 people, and the crowd swelled and swelled until you get up to that 80,000 or 100,000 number.
00:00:38.900 The unexpected rally made national headlines. Many people are shocked. Most don't know what to make
00:00:44.500 of it. I am not shocked, and I do know what to make of it, and that is because I have spent a lot
00:00:50.580 of time in Wildwood, New Jersey. Until the age of 18, I spent a lot. I don't know, three weeks a year
00:00:59.460 or more maybe in Wildwood. I smoked my first cigar in Wildwood. I was conceived in Wildwood,
00:01:05.260 and I sort of wish I didn't know that, but I do, and I was, just as many people over the years have
00:01:09.980 been conceived in Wildwood. I am not shocked by the turnout, but I understand why some people are.
00:01:15.900 The population of Wildwood is around 5,000. The surrounding towns, Wildwood Crest, Cape May,
00:01:22.440 North Wildwood, combined bring that number to around 14,000. The numbers swell during the summer
00:01:28.940 season, but it's still off-season. The season down there doesn't begin until Memorial Day.
00:01:33.840 So where do the 80,000 people come from? Atlantic City is about an hour away. Philly,
00:01:39.320 about an hour and a half. Wilmington, Delaware, I guess, is only about an hour and a half away.
00:01:43.460 I don't know who came from where, but I do know that the people who went put in an effort to be
00:01:52.300 there. And why? Why was Wildwood, New Jersey, surrounded by blue cities, the site of Trump's
00:01:59.200 biggest rally to date? Because Wildwood is a nostalgic place. Bobby Rydell sang about those
00:02:07.000 Wildwood days in the early 1960s. The first rock and roll record ever was first performed by Bill
00:02:13.880 Haley and his comments in Wildwood in 1954. Wildwood was the hot place to be in the middle
00:02:20.480 of the 20th century, as America was growing and flourishing and getting rich and having lots of
00:02:26.220 babies. Wildwood offered middle-class and even blue-collar Americans a fun, bright, totally American
00:02:34.120 beach vacation for their growing families. Wildwood is a time capsule from the absolute height of our
00:02:42.840 nation's relative wealth, power, and optimism. It is the kind of place that makes a person want to
00:02:49.220 make America great again. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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00:04:46.540 Meanwhile, President Biden tries to shake hand with a ghost at some speech he was giving in Tampa,
00:04:52.920 Florida. Biden walks away from the lectern. He's got his hands out to shake someone's hand,
00:04:59.840 stumbles a little, and realizes no one's there. And he looks out into the relatively small crowd.
00:05:09.720 I guess this is a rally for abortion. Rally. From the camera, it looks like there's about two dozen
00:05:16.880 people there. It says, reproductive freedom. Let's go. Let's kill those babies. And he goes to shake
00:05:21.700 hands. And it's just a ghost. I don't know what Joe Biden's seeing. He might be imagining someone
00:05:27.040 standing there. It might really be a ghost for all we know. In any case, the man no longer has
00:05:33.420 situational awareness. Yes, he's in decline. Yes, he probably has some kind of dementia.
00:05:41.240 Yes, he doesn't speak well anymore. He doesn't even have situational awareness. And that really
00:05:47.860 matters for Biden because that was the one thing he had. He never had much of an education. He never
00:05:52.620 had much in the way of convictions. He probably, you know, not the sharpest tool in the shed when it
00:05:58.600 comes to IQ. But he always, being a really successful empty suit politician, he always knew
00:06:05.800 how to glad hand. He always knew how to simper. He always knew how to win the crowd in the room and
00:06:12.280 tell them whatever they wanted to hear. He has lost that. He no longer can really read a room. He no
00:06:17.720 longer can really play to a room. He's trying to shake hands with people who aren't even there.
00:06:23.000 Bad, bad news. So the only thing they can do, especially if the Biden crowds draw, who knows,
00:06:28.340 a handful of people and the Trump crowds draw, you know, the population of the state of New Jersey
00:06:32.880 or something, they've just got to keep him to very, very tailored on-camera appearances where they
00:06:42.380 can edit the performances and avoid the big rallies. The way they were able to do that in 2020 was by
00:06:51.200 shutting down the country over COVID. There's some indication they might try to do that again.
00:06:56.960 But whichever of their tactics ultimately is successful, they just need to find some way
00:07:04.680 to make sure that this is not a campaign that is won on the campaign trail.
00:07:08.340 The one political gift Biden had, that situational awareness, that ability to flatter people in
00:07:18.020 the moment, even that is gone. So the guy is left with nothing. Now, one last speech to get to
00:07:25.000 before we move on to other news. Commencement speeches at American universities are generally
00:07:31.680 terrible in recent years. Back 150, 200 years ago, even less than that, even in the early
00:07:38.120 20th century. Commencement speeches involved serious people giving disputations in Latin,
00:07:44.600 Greek, sometimes Hebrew on serious subjects. Now, it's usually a bunch of clowns getting up,
00:07:51.000 doing a little soft shoe routine for the clapping seals who are in the audience. I'm mixing metaphors,
00:07:55.900 but it paints a picture at the very least. It's just jokes and flattery, and the whole university
00:08:03.220 system is basically a joke and flattery. You pay a quarter million dollars. For a lot of these schools,
00:08:08.160 it's very difficult to get in because everyone's applying to college. And then you don't really
00:08:11.480 learn very much there, and many of the things you learn are not true. And then you get some degree
00:08:15.500 that increasingly has little value, might even be a worthless degree at this point. So the commencement
00:08:22.440 speeches in recent years have reflected that. You lose the serious scholars, you lose the serious
00:08:26.480 statesman, you bring on Will Ferrell or somebody. Not to pick on Will Ferrell, but those kind of
00:08:32.320 speeches. So they're always terrible. The comedian speeches tend to be the worst of all because they
00:08:37.620 just show what a clown show the universities have become. And yet there was one exception over the
00:08:43.020 weekend. That would be Jerry Seinfeld. So not just a modern commencement speaker, but actually a comedian
00:08:48.760 who gave one of the best commencement speeches I have heard in years at Duke University.
00:08:55.600 Let go of this idea that you have to find this one great thing that is my passion,
00:09:02.400 my great passion with your shirt torn open and your heaving pec muscles. It's embarrassing.
00:09:09.220 Just be willing to do your work as hard as you can with the ability you have.
00:09:13.940 We don't need the heavy breathing and the outstretched arm from your passion.
00:09:17.740 It makes co-workers uncomfortable in the cubicle next to you.
00:09:22.880 Find fascination. Fascination is way better than passion. It's not so sweaty.
00:09:29.380 I will give you my three real keys to life. No jokes in this part. Okay, they are number one,
00:09:37.380 bust your ass. Number two, pay attention. Number three, fall in love.
00:09:43.260 Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful advice. I love the first part, which some of us have heard before,
00:09:50.540 but it's worth repeating. Forget about my passion, my passion, my passion. Find something that fascinates
00:09:58.540 you. What's the difference between, some people would say they're the same thing. My passion is
00:10:03.680 just what fascinates me. Not really. My passion, my passion, my passion is all about me, me, me, me,
00:10:08.560 me. It's all about some internal performance. It's all about me as detached from the rest of the
00:10:20.420 world. My economic circumstances, my social circumstances, my actual hard skills. No,
00:10:26.800 all that matters is my burning passion. No one cares about your passion. Something that fascinates
00:10:33.760 you is outside of you. It allows you to stop thinking about yourself for five seconds.
00:10:39.580 It will absorb your attention. It will inspire you to focus your efforts on this thing.
00:10:48.180 And maybe you'll be successful at it. Maybe you won't be successful at it.
00:10:51.600 If a thing fascinates you, you're more likely to be successful at it because it's about the work that
00:10:57.040 you are doing and the goal you want to achieve. It's not about being a certain type of person.
00:11:04.640 It's a subtle distinction, but Seinfeld totally nails it and he's totally right. A man wrapped up
00:11:10.460 in himself makes a small package. Indeed, hell is the place where we have nothing to do but amuse
00:11:16.020 ourselves. Focus on that thing outside of you. It's going to be much better for you. And then he gives
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00:12:25.800 K-N-W-L-E-S, to 98, 98, 98. That is Knowles to 98, 98, 98. He says, number one, bust your ass.
00:12:35.400 Very true. I've never seen anyone make it who doesn't work very, very hard. I used to think
00:12:41.400 when I was a kid that the people at the top didn't work very hard because they've got all their money
00:12:47.620 in their yachts and they don't need to work. It's only the people at the bottom
00:12:51.180 who have to work really hard. The people at the top, you work so that you don't need to work.
00:12:55.700 You make all that money so you don't need to work anymore. Not true, in my experience. The people at
00:13:00.380 the top work very, very hard. Usually they work harder than anybody else. He's right about it.
00:13:08.580 Jerry Seinfeld obviously has done that. Jerry Seinfeld easily could have retired in what,
00:13:12.440 1999 with zillions and zillions of dollars. And no, he keeps going out, hitting the road.
00:13:19.320 He keeps doing movies. Sometimes they flop. Sometimes they're better than others. He's
00:13:23.620 giving commencement speeches. The guy just keeps working. Number two, pay attention. This is related
00:13:29.640 to his bigger advice at the top. Pay attention. Be focused on other things. And he says, look,
00:13:37.260 my whole life I've just been focused on little trivialities. What's the deal with airline food?
00:13:42.300 That kind of stuff. But by paying attention, by paying a little bit more attention than the
00:13:47.240 people around him, he gets a little bit of an advantage. For him, it's in comedy. For you,
00:13:52.980 it could be in engineering or accounting or welding or I don't know, whatever it is you do. But if you
00:13:57.720 pay attention, you get those details and you recognize that knowledge is power and knowledge
00:14:03.600 is a prerequisite for freedom even because freedom is willing, predicated on understanding.
00:14:10.320 You're going to have an advantage. And then number three, this is the most beautiful thing.
00:14:16.260 He says, fall in love. And this is not sappy. This is not saccharine. This is not
00:14:20.720 mamby-pamby stuff. Fall in love because your desire is what's going to shape your character.
00:14:32.060 Fall in love because charity is not only a virtue, it's a theological virtue. Not only a theological
00:14:37.740 virtue, it's the greatest of all virtues, without which we're nothing but a clanging symbol.
00:14:43.800 And fall in love because our loves are going to define where we end up.
00:14:50.160 I also gave a graduation speech over the weekend and I gave it at a homeschool co-op, a homeschool
00:14:58.600 hybrid system with one graduate. I was asked to do it and I said, I love the idea of it so much
00:15:04.680 that I did it. I gave a graduation speech to one person. And coincidentally, this was the topic that
00:15:14.020 I was speaking on. Very similar to what Jerry Seinfeld was talking about. The difference between
00:15:20.020 the greatest sinners and the greatest saints is not necessarily their degrees of education. It's not
00:15:26.380 necessarily their intelligence. There have been very, very intelligent sinners before. The difference
00:15:31.520 is their loves, where their love is oriented. Do you love the good and you're drawn toward the good?
00:15:38.740 You know, like Dante says at the end of the Divine Comedy in Heaven, he says, and I could feel
00:15:45.540 my soul turning as a wheel. It was all beginning to turn by the love that moves the sun and the other
00:15:54.000 stars. Or is your love oriented toward selfish things, toward temporal things, toward material things,
00:16:03.160 toward things that are not going to serve you in the long run? Fall in love, Jerry says. And this is very
00:16:08.460 important. In our modern age, we're told, you know, suppress your loves, deny your desires. No, no,
00:16:14.320 no. You got to, you got to, it's all, it's all about love. It's all about desire. You've just got to
00:16:18.580 make sure that, that love is in the right place. Not all love is equal. I know we say love is love
00:16:25.100 these days. Uh-uh. No, there are different kinds of love and different orientations of love and
00:16:30.320 different, different, um, those, those, those can make all the difference in your life. Beautiful speech.
00:16:35.500 He also, just a few other bangers before he, before we move on from Jerry.
00:16:39.900 He tells the graduates they should embrace privilege. He says, today we're embarrassed
00:16:44.440 about things we should be proud of and proud of things we should be embarrassed about.
00:16:47.720 Beautiful way to put it. Chestertonian, if you ask me. So true. We're embarrassed that our parents
00:16:54.400 gave, gave some of us a better life than others. You know, our privilege, right? We're embarrassed if we
00:16:59.860 grew up in a good neighborhood. We're, we're embarrassed if we have white skin. We're embarrassed if we,
00:17:05.140 no, I'm this, you, you should never be embarrassed about your family. You should never be embarrassed
00:17:14.040 about some aspect of your ethnicity or that you, you can't change. You didn't choose. You don't need
00:17:21.040 to be embarrassed about that. You should never be embarrassed that you had parents who gave you a
00:17:26.680 good upbringing that you should, you shouldn't be embarrassed about privilege, period. You want,
00:17:31.020 I want my kids to have privilege. I, I want to work to make sure my kids have privilege.
00:17:35.000 And ideally more privileged than I had. We all should do that. It's not that we want,
00:17:41.700 we shouldn't deny privilege. We should use it responsibly, but we don't act responsibly.
00:17:46.860 That's why we're proud of things we should be embarrassed by. Think of what we're proud of
00:17:50.380 these days. We're probably have a whole month where we were proud of all the weird sex stuff
00:17:54.560 that people do. That's not, that's one of the things we should not be proud of. Perfect,
00:17:59.700 perfect observation from Seinfeld here. Then he says, don't lose your sense of humor. It's an
00:18:06.520 essential surviving quality. It is worth the occasional feeling of discomfort to have some
00:18:10.560 laughs. So true. This affects people on the right, even as it does on the left. The left is humorless.
00:18:17.980 The right has a problem with this too, though. Some people on the right, they just want to be so
00:18:23.000 angry all the time. And they, you don't understand they, the evil they out there, they're destroying
00:18:30.060 our lives and we need to be angry and pull our hairs out. Nah, man, man. And who is they? Well,
00:18:36.540 it's the Democrats. It's the leftists. It's the globalists. It's the, this is, some people would say
00:18:41.860 it's the Jews. You always, that's one of the recurring prejudices that crops up in history,
00:18:46.480 or it's the UN or it's the WEF or it's the whatever. But ultimately, if you follow that back
00:18:53.100 far enough, it's concupiscence. It's the, it's the fallen state of the world. It's because Adam in the
00:19:01.100 garden ate an apple. That's really what it comes down to. So it's a fallen world and there are all,
00:19:07.800 all sorts of, I'm not denying that we individually and we collectively and we, we all contribute to
00:19:15.060 that fallen nature because we commit sins. But you're not, that's not going away anytime soon.
00:19:23.940 That can be redeemed and is redeemed, in fact, if you believe as I do in the crucifixion, the harrowing
00:19:31.420 of hell and the resurrection and the ascension and the second, in second coming, the end of the world,
00:19:35.940 you definitely believe in that this will be redeemed. But in the meantime, it's a fallen world.
00:19:40.440 The only way to get through the fallen world without pulling your hair out is hope, the theological
00:19:47.020 virtue and faith and charity. But second only to those virtues, humor, have a sense of humor because
00:19:54.460 things are a little off. We all know that things are a little off. We all know that things are not
00:19:58.240 as they should be. So you'll laugh or you cry. Great, great point. Now, speaking of funny things,
00:20:08.240 some, and speaking of the Jews, I guess, some, some Princeton libs are out on a hunger strike because
00:20:14.840 they hate the state of Israel so much and they're really upset. And so they're, they're on a hunger
00:20:18.840 strike at Princeton. They're, they're boycotting their eating clubs this week and they're complaining
00:20:25.300 that they're hungry. This is absolutely unfair.
00:20:31.600 My peers and I, we are starving. We are physically exhausted. I am quite literally shaking right now,
00:20:39.060 as you can see. We are both cold and hot at the same time. We are all immunocompromised.
00:20:46.420 And based on the university's meeting yesterday with some of our bargaining team,
00:20:50.520 they would love to continue physically weakening us because they can't stand to say no to unjust murder.
00:20:59.820 I will say, I truly do not feel like I'm doing anything special. This is my choice and I would
00:21:11.400 not spend my birthday doing anything other than being here and standing in solidarity with you all
00:21:17.340 and standing in solidarity with our siblings and innocent people in Gaza.
00:21:22.480 Okay. She's right about a couple of things. One, she's not doing anything special. That's true.
00:21:26.260 Two, this is exactly what she'd like to be doing on her birthday. This is how she's oriented her love.
00:21:31.420 And there are all sorts of psychobabble reasons that I could go into about how these Princeton kids
00:21:37.200 ended up doing this, but I'll, I'll avoid the temptation to, to read their minds. I'll just observe
00:21:45.120 their actions. They chose to be there. They chose to go on a hunger strike and then they
00:21:49.020 whine and complain about it. Then they blame the administration. The administration is forcing us.
00:21:54.760 No, they're not. You're choosing to go on a hunger strike. And in this case, I don't, I think there
00:21:59.860 are many other better reasons to go on a hunger strike, but you think this is a good cause. Okay.
00:22:03.340 Well, if you're going to do it, then how about you suffer silently, darling? You know,
00:22:06.700 how about you kiss it up to God? No, you can't. You got to make a big show about it.
00:22:10.760 Even though you're the one starving yourself. Reminds me one time I was giving a speech at
00:22:14.920 Loyola Marymount with Drew Clavin. And at one point, these black students came in and they had
00:22:19.720 duct tape over their face. And I don't know why they were angry. I don't know why the black student
00:22:23.060 organization was angry at me. I don't think I'd said anything to offend them. Otherwise, other than
00:22:26.520 maybe I made fun of BLM or something. Usually it's the transvestites who protest me. But in this case,
00:22:31.700 it was these black students and they put tape on their mouths. They probably didn't even know who
00:22:35.340 Drew and I were. They just heard conservatives are here and conservatives are awful, terrible racists. So they
00:22:39.400 came in. They said, we're being silenced. And I said, hey, any of the kids with the tape on your
00:22:43.260 mouths, here's the microphone. Whatever you think you're being censored from saying, here you go.
00:22:49.180 Here's the mic. You can say whatever you want. Anybody want to take the mic? Not one person. Not
00:22:53.280 one person came up. Because they put the tape on themselves. And they put the tape on themselves
00:23:00.180 as a big performance. They were so upset that in theory, they had been prevented from
00:23:05.740 speaking that they didn't actually come up with anything to say. They didn't have anything to say.
00:23:13.600 Just a big performance because it carried some social currency and because they didn't know what
00:23:20.100 else to do. Because they hadn't, getting back to our first point, they hadn't really cultivated their
00:23:25.580 loves. They didn't know what they want. They know things they hate. They don't really know what they
00:23:29.560 love. They don't, other than tearing things down, I guess. They don't really know what they love.
00:23:36.600 They don't have a good and reasonable and sturdy destination to which their love can propel them.
00:23:47.420 You know, one of my favorite things that I'm doing these days is the Michael And series of long
00:23:51.400 interviews. In this series, I've covered an array of topics. This episode might be the most shocking
00:23:57.060 yet. I sat down with Dr. Robert Epstein, the former editor-in-chief of Psychology Today,
00:24:01.160 about the control that big tech has over the minds of people around the world. If you were not notified
00:24:06.220 that we released the episode this weekend, after watching the episode, you may have an idea why.
00:24:11.300 Here's a quick teaser. We published a landmark study in which we show bias in Google search results can
00:24:18.660 change people's views about anything at all. How bad is it? I gave a briefing, a private briefing,
00:24:26.940 a few minutes later, one of them walked out. I know exactly who it was. And he walked up to me
00:24:30.520 and said, Dr. Epstein, based on what you just told us, I predict you're going to be killed in some sort
00:24:35.820 of accident in the next few months. But a few months later, my beautiful, amazing wife was killed in a
00:24:44.360 horrendous car accident.
00:24:47.980 Are you deterred at all?
00:24:50.480 Yes. Then there's another part of me, which is the science guy. Every single thing we do is
00:24:56.240 relevant to everything that's happening right now. With the algorithms shifting the views of people
00:25:03.040 who are undecided on some issue or other around the world by the billions.
00:25:09.880 Now what?
00:25:10.380 We are fucked, okay?
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00:25:51.820 has just become a soccer manager. Still trans-identifying, but he's transitioned from
00:25:59.820 referee to manager. This guy goes by Lucy Clark. I don't know what his real name is. He's the first
00:26:04.500 openly transgender referee who's now the first trans manager in the top five divisions of English
00:26:12.200 women's soccer. In British English, that's called football, but in real English, we call it soccer.
00:26:20.760 So J.K. Rowling, the author of Harry Potter, had a funny tweet about this. She said,
00:26:25.560 when I was young, all the football managers were straight, white, middle-aged blokes,
00:26:29.420 so it's fantastic to see how much things have changed. And then there was an article in the Daily
00:26:35.780 Mail. Daily Mail, British paper. It's got a picture of this trans-identifying guy who is like real. He
00:26:43.900 looks real manly and real British. You can kind of tell in the face and a little bit in the teeth.
00:26:51.720 No knock on the Brits, but they don't have great dental care there. And he's got a wig on. He just
00:26:57.180 looks like a big British dude with a wig on. And the headline says, J.K. Rowling is accused of
00:27:03.000 cruelty as she mocks transgender football manager by comparing her to a straight, white, middle-aged
00:27:08.240 bloke. At which point, J.K. Rowling responds and says, I didn't compare him to one. He is one.
00:27:16.180 And what strikes me about this is not even the trans issue, which I'm so sick of talking about.
00:27:22.220 It's the breakdown of interpretation. J.K. Rowling's correction here of the Daily Mail is not
00:27:32.200 an anthropological correction so much as it's a grammatical and rhetorical correction.
00:27:39.160 The Daily Mail, when they say she compares this woman to this man, she says, no, it's not.
00:27:46.200 J.K. Rowling is not comparing anyone. J.K. Rowling is just describing the person.
00:27:52.320 He is a man. This means that we have a crisis of meaning. And I think we all know that we have a
00:27:59.380 crisis of meaning. We don't know how to compare things anymore. We don't know what things really
00:28:04.000 are. This is why we ask the question, what is a woman? This is why we all misuse the word literally.
00:28:09.660 You know, every, it used to be just teenage white girls. Now it's all of society would misuse literally
00:28:14.620 and say, oh man, that literally killed me. Oh, this food is literally the greatest thing I've ever had in my
00:28:21.600 whole life. Oh, this is literally, literally, I'm literally dead. If you're speaking, you are of
00:28:27.520 course not literally dead. I hope. But unless you're Joe Biden, I guess. In that case, you might
00:28:33.160 be literally dead and still, still reanimated somehow by some evil principalities and powers.
00:28:37.640 And the word literally, as I've observed before, not just to be cute, because it tells you something
00:28:43.260 about interpretation, about meaning. The word literally is a confounding word because literally,
00:28:47.580 Andrew Klavan has made this point. Literally refers to letters and letters are signs and symbols. So
00:28:52.900 even the word literally has this implicit suggestion that there's more to the world than just what we
00:29:02.220 would call literal. So we got to take a little trip back to understand how we got to the point
00:29:07.420 where the British newspaper doesn't know what a man is and doesn't know what comparison is.
00:29:13.080 We have to take a little trip back to the Middle Ages and think about the four kinds of interpretation
00:29:18.740 that in the Middle Ages were commonly understood that we've since forgotten.
00:29:23.700 When you would examine a text in the Middle Ages, especially the Bible, the four things you would
00:29:30.820 think about are the literal meaning, just the most basic intentional meaning you can come up with of
00:29:40.680 the text, followed by the allegorical or typological meaning, followed by the moral meaning,
00:29:47.980 followed by what is called the anagogical meaning, anagogical meaning pertaining to the end times.
00:29:54.620 So to make that concrete, you think about the book of Exodus. What is literally the story of the
00:30:01.400 book of Exodus? Literally the story is the Israelites leave Egypt and they go to the promised land.
00:30:09.140 They go to what is now the nation state of Israel. Okay, that's the literal meaning.
00:30:13.980 What is the allegorical or typological meaning? The allegorical or typological is looking back in
00:30:22.820 the past to understand the present, to see a figure of the present in the past. So the allegorical meaning
00:30:31.380 would be that, you know, God takes the, the, his people from slavery into freedom, slavery in Egypt into
00:30:43.080 freedom in the promised land. Okay. And so the allegorical meaning would be that, that God, when he becomes
00:30:49.840 man in Christ, brings his people from slavery and the bondage of sin into true freedom. That's the,
00:30:59.940 that's the, this is why Exodus is a kind of a figure of, of the salvation that Christ brings.
00:31:06.940 Okay. What's the moral meaning? The moral, you know, what's the moral of the story? The moral meaning is
00:31:11.760 we should follow God, even when it's inconvenient, even when we have to give up things that we consider
00:31:18.700 to be comforts, things that we're attached to. There are plenty of Israelites in Egypt who did
00:31:24.500 not want to go follow this guy, Moses through the desert, give up all their nice material possessions
00:31:29.100 and go starve in the desert potentially in search of some promised land that they were told they had.
00:31:34.340 But the faithful ones did it and it's a good thing that they did. And then finally the anagogical as it
00:31:41.620 pertains to the end times. Anagogical relating the present to the future. Well, I guess the anagogical is
00:31:49.980 that we're, we're all kind of in exile, right? We're all in Exodus. The, the, the Exodus is kind of the figure
00:31:55.880 of history and we're, we're here. This is, this is not real. This earth is not really our country. We're pilgrims
00:32:03.280 and we're going to another place. Our true home is in heaven. Our true home is with God. And we're
00:32:10.680 here passing through as pilgrims on this fallen world to get to the true promised land, which is
00:32:15.000 not the nation state of Israel. The true promised land is the kingdom of God. Okay, there you go.
00:32:20.800 That's a very basic way of understanding, of interpreting at four different levels, this,
00:32:27.100 this book of the Bible. We don't do any of that anymore, do we? Four different meanings,
00:32:32.780 all on top of each other. We don't really do that anymore. And the reason we don't do that is in
00:32:38.180 the Daily Mail tweet, which is we deny meaning. This is why everything's got to be literal. This
00:32:45.960 is why everything's got to be material now. This is why when we really are trying to talk about the
00:32:49.960 soul or the spirit, we talk about like the brain. I'm going to upload my brain. We make everything
00:32:55.380 physical. Even when we talk about spiritual discomforts with regard to our sexuality,
00:33:01.840 we now make it all physical in the transgender ideology. We say, oh, it's, yeah, we, it's,
00:33:06.740 there's just an imbalance and I've got to chop up my body to be more like my true self.
00:33:11.600 We, at an even deeper level than that, we deny that there's such a thing as objective truth.
00:33:17.760 That's why we use phrases like your truth and my truth. And we can, we never seem to be able
00:33:21.340 to reason about anything anymore. It makes me think of it. There's a painting by René Magritte
00:33:27.260 called The Treachery of Images. You might've seen it. It's a painting of a pipe and it says,
00:33:31.040 this is not a pipe. It's a picture of a pipe. It says, this is not a pipe. I was talking to my
00:33:37.200 friend Spencer Clavin about this. And he said, well, you know, that image, it's not just that it's a bad
00:33:42.840 painting. It's, it's downright satanic. And the reason it's a satanic painting is because it denies
00:33:50.300 the relation between symbol and symbolized. There's a, there's a symbol of a pipe, which is the
00:33:56.200 painting of the pipe. But then the painting says, this is not a pipe. There's no connection between
00:34:00.300 symbol and symbolized. My body is a symbol of my soul, right? There was, there's the, the physical
00:34:08.460 world has a metaphysical meaning or we're all just warm food and we're all just, we're all just going
00:34:16.080 to take a dirt nap someday. But that's, that's not it. It's so, it's not, the crisis of meaning is not
00:34:24.340 just that we don't understand what a woman is. We don't understand what a woman is because we have a
00:34:29.520 crisis of meaning and that threatens everything. Because if, if, if nothing in this world means
00:34:34.660 anything, then what are we living for? We throw out morality. We throw out any sense of duty. We
00:34:39.800 throw out glory and honor. We throw out love. What's the point of love? It's all just, this is
00:34:45.760 why the modern materialist people, they talk about love as an illusion, just little chemicals firing
00:34:49.780 off in your brain. It's all fake. Then what's the point of life? You, you lose the very point of life
00:34:57.640 if you don't recognize that, that things are not merely what they appear, that there's in a way,
00:35:07.960 maybe the transgender activists understand this, where they say, you know, that, that husky looking
00:35:13.020 man over there, he's not really what he appears. But that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is
00:35:16.420 things are not merely what they appear. They are often what they appear. There is a literal meaning,
00:35:21.060 but then there's more to that. There's allegory. There's morality. There is the anagogical meaning.
00:35:26.940 The story is going to end at some point. And very often we only understand the meaning of the story
00:35:32.800 when we look backwards. There's people at the end of their life coming to some sense of what
00:35:36.280 their life has meant. If you lose that, then we're all just wandering around like a bunch of idiots.
00:35:41.780 And we, we say that life is nothing but a tale told by an idiot full of sound and fury signifying
00:35:46.520 nothing. Not a good way to live. And what you should do, one, one thing that will help your living
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00:35:55.660 Ring that bell. Now on the flip side of famous women, you have JK Rowling speaking a lot of sense.
00:36:04.520 We also have Jennifer Lawrence who is fully embracing the rainbow agenda up to and including
00:36:11.780 calling Mike Pence gay. I was in love with a homosexual. It was my first love. I tried to
00:36:18.820 convert him for years, but now I know conversion therapy doesn't work. Did you hear me, Mike Pence?
00:36:27.560 I said, conversion therapy isn't real.
00:36:33.980 Even though I know you think it worked on you.
00:36:36.140 This is kind of a new one to me. I mean, I've heard this kind of line all the time. This is all
00:36:43.600 what the left and the pro LGBT people say. They say, if you, if you disapprove of, you know, a fella
00:36:50.480 dressing up like a chick and then reading books to little children in the library, you're probably
00:36:56.280 secretly gay. If you disapprove of our extremely decadent, disordered lifestyle, you probably have it
00:37:04.040 or desire it or something, but I never heard it about Mike Pence. Does any, does anybody seriously
00:37:09.400 believe that Mike Pence wants to go, you know, hit the local gay bars? He wants to go hit the
00:37:15.400 local drag queen story hour? No, I don't think so. He just, he just disapproves of that kind of stuff.
00:37:21.460 Even, I don't know, they made it out like Mike Pence was, you know, affixing electrodes to
00:37:26.260 homosexuals and zapping them until they weren't gay anymore or something. That isn't true.
00:37:31.500 So that's, that's almost entirely made up. He's just, he's just publicly disapproved of this kind
00:37:37.260 of behavior. And, and for that great sin, he, you know, they, they malign him in all sorts of ways.
00:37:43.340 They did that to Pence a lot though. Remember that time they called Mike Pence a misogynist for
00:37:47.660 refusing to cheat on his wife. He wouldn't go on dinner dates with young women. Isn't that man?
00:37:52.920 He's a misogynist. He won't even cheat on his wife. But, but now they're saying he's gay.
00:37:56.960 Okay. Okay. Why? What is this about? This is not about Mike Pence or even the LGBT stuff.
00:38:03.120 This too is about a denial of reason. This, this too, because what Jennifer Lawrence,
00:38:10.640 what all the libs who say this kind of stuff are, are implying is that one can never
00:38:16.300 have disinterested approval of anything. If you disapprove of something, it must be
00:38:25.000 because you secretly desire that thing. That's the only explanation in liberal, because in liberalism,
00:38:33.120 you're just supposed to let anyone do whatever they want. Of course, in practice, that's not what they,
00:38:37.840 they, they don't want to let a, they don't want to let women have their own sports leagues.
00:38:41.300 They disapprove of that. You know, they don't want to let us have our nice just families and live our
00:38:46.520 lives normally and raise the American flag and, you know, have hot dogs on the 4th of July. They
00:38:50.340 don't want to let us, they don't want to let us run businesses normally. They don't want to let us
00:38:53.820 speak on college campuses. They don't want, so there are plenty of things that they disapprove of
00:38:57.900 that they don't secretly desire necessarily. But that's what they say about us. They say,
00:39:04.860 if, if in any way, if you oppose the rainbow stuff, you're a secret homosexual or transvestite or
00:39:10.720 something. It's the, because why? Because you can't, what they're implying is you can't know
00:39:20.940 anything that you are not actively or passionately involved in. We know this isn't true. You don't
00:39:26.740 need to suffer cancer to be an oncologist. You don't need to be covered in third degree burns to
00:39:33.260 become a firefighter. You, but, but the way to, the way to have that sort of disinterested approval,
00:39:45.440 disapproval rather, is to use your reason to just figure out what a, what a thing would be like to
00:39:52.300 know something about that thing through our reason objectively, rather than through our direct
00:39:55.920 experience. The libs can't do this. Liberalism is about empirical experience. Ultimately, it,
00:40:01.960 it comes to a denial of reason, a reason that destroys itself, that destroys its own basis by
00:40:07.640 denying the source of our reason, which is the intelligence that created the universe.
00:40:11.760 And so they end up with this. Mike, apparently Mike Pence is gay. News to me, probably news to Mike Pence.
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00:41:47.500 Prince Z413 had my favorite comment last week. It says, voting for a Kennedy is like voting for
00:41:54.680 a Clinton. Enough is enough. That's really true, actually, in that both the Clintons and the Kennedys
00:41:58.680 present themselves as moderate Democrats, but they continue generally to move left with the Democrat
00:42:06.460 Party because they don't really stand for all that much at all. They're just kind of
00:42:09.500 avatars of the Democrat establishment. That's true. It's a real indictment of conservatism
00:42:16.060 that any conservatives have considered voting for Robert F. Kennedy in 2024. Now, that's probably out
00:42:25.160 because Kennedy embraced abortion up until the moment of birth. He's trying to walk that back now,
00:42:30.120 but maybe we'll get to that if we have time. But real indictment. Okay, guys, what is it going to be
00:42:36.380 next? We're going to be voting for Malia Obama. We'll say, you know, I longed for the good old
00:42:40.800 days when Democrats were reasonable, like under Barack Obama. I just want to go back to the good
00:42:47.240 old days when men were using women's bathrooms and they were in women's sports leagues, but it
00:42:54.380 wasn't mandatory that we watch them strip naked all the time. I just want to go back to the good old.
00:43:00.260 No, we're just moving the culture further to the left. It's pathetic. No Kennedys. No Kennedys,
00:43:05.000 no Obamas, no Clintons, no libs. We got to be conservative. Now, speaking of saucy accusations
00:43:15.480 on the old libidinous front, we turn from Jennifer Lawrence to Stormy Daniels. Stormy Daniels is now
00:43:24.380 alleging that Donald Trump metooed her basically, you know, that he pressured her. She didn't know
00:43:29.560 what to do. She was this little wallflower and she somehow ended up in Donald Trump's hotel room and
00:43:34.120 she didn't know how she got here. She was so scared. Oh, she was nervous. She was sweating.
00:43:38.940 And Bill Maher, a liberal who's not with us, but he's somewhat more reasonable than the
00:43:44.280 leftists. Bill Maher just calls BS.
00:43:48.100 Why did you f*** Donald Trump?
00:43:50.160 I have no idea.
00:43:54.440 Okay, but you say it's not a Me Too case.
00:43:56.520 It is not a Me Too case. I mean, I wasn't assaulted. I wasn't attacked or raped or coerced or
00:44:03.940 blackmailed. They tried to shove me in the Me Too box to further their own agenda. And first of all,
00:44:09.300 I didn't want any part of that because it's not the truth and I'm not a victim in that regard.
00:44:14.260 That's not what she's saying now.
00:44:17.940 She's talking about he was bigger and blocking the way. It's all the Me Too buzzwords.
00:44:23.440 She said there was a power imbalance of power for sure. My hands were shaking so hard.
00:44:29.680 She said she blacked out. Blacked out? She's a porn star.
00:44:34.960 She's... I don't think sex...
00:44:38.240 That doesn't mean she's been subjected to the likes of Donald Trump.
00:44:43.720 Well, I might black out too.
00:44:47.340 That's the job. It's kind of like Stormy Bob. Bob Stormy. F***.
00:44:52.520 Action. And let's go and we're losing the light.
00:44:56.820 So I just think this is... I just think she's not a good witness.
00:45:00.360 She's not a good witness and Bill Maher's totally right here. That first clip that you heard is from Bill Maher's show in 2018 when she said,
00:45:07.180 yeah, it wasn't Me Too'd. I'm not a victim in any way. I slept with Trump. You know, I slept with about a billion people.
00:45:14.180 Didn't think twice about it. But now, Bill Maher observes, now it's... The story's changed a little.
00:45:20.980 Oh, he blocked the door. Oh, there was a power imbalance. Whatever.
00:45:24.320 However, Stormy Daniels is obviously a liar. We know she's a liar because she signed an official statement years ago saying,
00:45:32.820 I did not sleep with Donald Trump and I did not receive any hush money payments.
00:45:35.840 I couldn't have received a hush money payment because I didn't sleep with Donald Trump.
00:45:38.680 So there was nothing to hush up.
00:45:41.020 She signed that official statement. Now she's saying, oh yeah, I lied about that.
00:45:44.520 I was lying then.
00:45:46.060 And I was lying for money.
00:45:48.360 And now I'm totally telling the truth.
00:45:50.500 Even though now I also stand to make a lot of money by changing my story, I'm totally telling the truth now.
00:45:55.420 No, she's a liar.
00:45:56.840 She was lying then or she's lying now or she's just the kind of person who lies when it suits her.
00:46:02.760 And to Bill's point, she is a prostitute and she's not...
00:46:05.980 I'm all for redemption and I don't think anybody is beyond redemption.
00:46:10.680 And I don't just...
00:46:11.920 You know, when I go on the podcasts with the OnlyFans girls,
00:46:15.400 I'm the one who's not making fun of them and not castigating them.
00:46:18.780 But there has to be some repentance.
00:46:24.160 Repentance is the key here.
00:46:26.740 The point is not that prostitution is great and we shouldn't, you know, don't judge man.
00:46:32.180 No, no, no.
00:46:32.600 You very much should judge the sin and recognize that we're all sinners and all fall short of the glory of God.
00:46:38.160 And we can turn away from our sin and God's grace is available to all of us.
00:46:42.060 But you got it.
00:46:42.540 You have to repent.
00:46:43.660 And as far as I can tell, Stormy Daniels is totally unrepentant.
00:46:46.380 And she is the kind of woman who would do anything, including degrade herself for money for her whole career.
00:46:52.840 And she doesn't seem to have repented of that at all.
00:46:55.840 And on top of that, we know that she's a liar.
00:46:57.820 And to Bill's point, she's a bad witness.
00:46:59.940 She's just a bad witness, period.
00:47:01.560 So, is she lying now?
00:47:05.980 Look, the case is ridiculous.
00:47:07.880 And the fact that she's such a terrible witness is actually good for the Trump campaign.
00:47:12.480 And most people know the whole thing is rigged and is just a political witch hunt.
00:47:18.560 However, I want to raise another possibility, which is maybe she's not lying.
00:47:22.900 Maybe when she uses all this Me Too language, maybe she sincerely believes it.
00:47:26.460 But she might.
00:47:28.600 And you know how I know she might?
00:47:29.620 Because people's memories change over time.
00:47:31.520 Because this incident allegedly happened in 2006.
00:47:34.340 And it's been 18 years since 2006.
00:47:37.700 And sometimes people's feelings about things change.
00:47:41.320 Sometimes people's recollections change.
00:47:44.000 Memories, especially as they're that far in the past, become notoriously unreliable.
00:47:48.860 This is why we don't admit this kind of evidence in court generally.
00:47:52.760 It's why we have statutes of limitations on crimes.
00:47:56.460 Until recently, until the Me Too moral panic.
00:47:59.020 And then we got rid of all the statutes of limitations.
00:48:01.720 And as a result of that, there was a lot of injustice done.
00:48:06.560 Basic facts about human nature.
00:48:09.220 Feelings change, people change, memories are unreliable.
00:48:12.820 We've thrown those out.
00:48:14.940 We've thrown those out in the pursuit of some virtue.
00:48:19.460 Not even just some vice.
00:48:20.820 It reminds me of that Chesterton line.
00:48:22.780 The modern world is not so bad because it's so evil.
00:48:25.560 But in some ways, because it's so good.
00:48:27.180 It's not just the vices.
00:48:28.260 It's the virtues.
00:48:28.880 When a religious scheme is shattered, it's not just the vices that run wild.
00:48:32.040 But the virtues as well.
00:48:33.000 And the vices run more wildly.
00:48:35.840 And they do more terrible damage.
00:48:37.720 Because they're isolated and alone.
00:48:40.020 That's what you're seeing take place now.
00:48:43.700 Or Stormy's a total liar.
00:48:44.820 But even if she's not a total liar, there's still a reason to have statutes of limitations.
00:48:48.420 And not trust people's 20-year-old memories.
00:48:52.100 There's so much more to get to.
00:48:54.080 Before some of the stories that I really want to get to today, though, I've got to take a pause.
00:48:59.380 Because our Daily Wire comedy, Burcham, launched yesterday.
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00:49:07.900 Terrific show.
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00:49:09.420 You're going to love it.
00:49:10.940 The most important thing, though, is one of the cast members of that show, Roseanne Barr, who I've been a fan of for a very long time.
00:49:18.080 And I got to spend a little bit of time with at the premiere party in Los Angeles.
00:49:21.480 Roseanne Barr then shows up on the show of another friend of mine, Megyn Kelly, smoking my cigar.
00:49:29.160 I'm going to start referring to myself as the artist formerly known as Roseanne.
00:49:34.380 Oh, I like that.
00:49:34.860 I really have thought about that.
00:49:36.420 Okay.
00:49:36.620 And I'm thinking, it's this kind of an age.
00:49:40.400 And Principal Bortles is that.
00:49:42.760 She kind of is a George Burns kind of character.
00:49:45.840 Roseanne's holding a cigar.
00:49:46.740 And I've always loved George Burns.
00:49:48.240 Well, because I told you, the nicotine thing.
00:49:50.980 You know, these are nicotine leaves.
00:49:54.960 Michael Knowles set you up.
00:49:56.020 He was there last night distributing his favorite cigars.
00:49:58.580 And this is, I believe, a Michael Knowles offering we have here.
00:50:01.760 I saw it there on the table.
00:50:03.520 It was wrapped in plastic, and I said that God is providing me with a way to satisfy my
00:50:09.200 great craving for nicotine right now.
00:50:12.220 How long have you been off the cigarettes?
00:50:14.320 Because it is so, God, six months.
00:50:18.140 Because I haven't been near a comedy club.
00:50:20.560 But as soon as I get around comics, I've got to smoke.
00:50:24.340 See?
00:50:25.040 Do you do the vaping at all?
00:50:26.060 Is that in any way satisfactory?
00:50:28.180 He's chewing on it.
00:50:29.140 She's chewing on it.
00:50:30.080 No, because it releases tobacco direct.
00:50:36.460 I owe Roseanne an apology.
00:50:38.920 When we were chatting, I didn't realize that Roseanne, I should have realized.
00:50:43.680 I didn't realize she was a fan of cigars.
00:50:45.360 So I'm glad she was able to swipe a Mayflower cigar from the table at the premiere.
00:50:49.720 But we've got to get a box of Mayflowers to Roseanne pronto.
00:50:52.180 Okay, and you've got to go check out Roseanne's new show with Megyn Kelly, with Adam Carolla,
00:50:57.000 with a lot of great people, Mr. Burcham at Daily Wire+.
00:50:59.720 The rest of the show continues now.
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