Ep. 1491 - The Trump Vs Biden Debate Explained
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Summary
Joe Biden has agreed to debate Donald Trump, but only if no one else in the audience is allowed to watch it. Is this a good or bad deal for the Commission on Presidential Debates? Is it time to move on from debates?
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Oh, it's on, baby. Against all odds, Joe Biden has agreed to debate Donald Trump.
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Donald Trump lost two debates to me in 2020. And since then, he hadn't shown up for debate.
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Now he's acting like he wants to debate me again. Well, make my day, pal. I'll even do it twice.
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So let's pick the dates, Donald. I hear you're free on Wednesdays.
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I hear you're free on Wednesdays. Apparently, that's when Trump is not needed in court because
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Joe Biden and his Democrat friends are trying to imprison him.
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Yeah, Donald, you're running away. Oh, you're too busy to debate. What, just because I'm trying
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to imprison you right now because I'm so afraid that if you run fair and square against me, I'll
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lose? Yeah, well, Donald, make my day. Let's debate. Trump, for his part, has accepted.
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It is my great honor, said President Covfefe on Truth Social, to accept the CNN debate against
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Crooked Joe Biden, the worst president in the history of the United States and a true threat
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to democracy on June 27th. Likewise, I accept the ABC news debate against Crooked Joe on September
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And the only demand that Joe Biden made was to insist that not a single person in the audience
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be permitted to watch it. I'm Michael Knowles. This is The Michael Knowles Show.
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Biden doesn't want an audience at the debate, that's real. No exaggeration. We have it here
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in the Biden campaign's own words. This is from Biden-Harris dated May 15th, so just yesterday.
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This is to the Commission on Presidential Debates.
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President Joe Biden believes the interests of the American people are best served by presidential
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debates that offer timely and relevant information to inform voters before they make their choices.
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The purpose of this letter is to provide notice that the president
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will not be participating in the Commission on Presidential Debates, announced debates in 2024.
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Instead, he's going to participate in other debates, the ones that he and Trump were talking about,
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CNN and ABC. Okay, why? Why is that? If he's going to do the debates,
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why would he not go with the longstanding tradition of the Commission on Presidential Debates?
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And why would he now go with these other news organizations? Well, the first reason he gives
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is that the schedule that the Commission gave doesn't work for Biden and doesn't work with all
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of this early voting, which the Democrats have crammed down our throats because it benefits them
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and allows them to rig the election more easily. But second, this is the key. Second,
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the Commission's model of building huge spectacles with large audiences at great expense
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simply isn't necessary or conducive to good debates. The debates should be conducted for
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the benefit of the American voters watching on television and at home, not as entertainment for
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an in-person audience with raucous or disruptive partisans and donors who consume valuable debate
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time with noisy spectacles of approval or jeering. As was the case with the original televised
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debates in 1960, a television studio with just the candidates and moderators is a better,
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more cost-efficient way to proceed. Focus solely on the interests of voters. Okay,
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that's a lot of words to say. I don't want to get booed off the stage. And that's what this is about
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because Trump has made a big point in his campaigns, all of his campaigns, to observe that
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he draws huge crowds and his opponents do not. So he drew huge crowds in 2016. Hillary did not.
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And all the smart political analysts at the time said, the crowds are not a good predictor
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of how things are going to turn out at the ballot box. But they were because Trump won and Hillary
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lost, even though all the smart money said Hillary was guaranteed to win. Then in 2020,
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Trump drew huge crowds and Biden drew basically nobody. Now, the way that they got around this in
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2020 was they shut the whole country down and they said, you're not allowed to go to any sort of event,
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let alone a presidential rally. And then they changed all the voting rules in the weeks and
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months beforehand and rigged the election. This time though, even though there is a new COVID
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variant, the libs are obviously dangling that out in front of us. Probably they're not going to be
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able to do COVID again. And you look, you see the Biden rallies, such as they are, smattering of
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people at them. President Trump shows up to Wildwood, New Jersey. He gets tens, tens of thousands of
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people to show up to support him. So what's going to happen at a debate if the audience is allowed to be
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there? The audience is going to cheer for Trump and they're going to attack Biden. And it's going
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to, it's going to off foot Biden because Biden is obviously in the throes of senility.
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Plus even the people who might have otherwise been inclined to support Biden, the independents,
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the moderates, for goodness sakes, even members of Biden's own base have turned on him recently
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for all sorts of reasons. The moderates and the independents have turned on him because he's been
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a terrible steward of the economy and he's opened up the Southern border and flooded it with
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foreign nationals, many of whom are dangerous and he's mishandled foreign policy. This last point
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leads into why Biden's base doesn't like him right now. And it's because Biden's base hates the state
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of Israel and supports the Palestine liberation movement. And Biden is still viewed as a defender
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of the state of Israel because Biden is funding the state of Israel because America gives Israel
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six and a half percent of its military. So Biden's totally wedged. He speaks in a way that sounds
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anti-Israel, but practically he's still mostly supporting Israel. And so he can't win for losing.
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So the only answer for Biden is don't campaign as much, try not to talk as much. And okay,
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if we have to do a debate, because we're looking pretty bad in the polls right now,
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at least make sure that there is no one in the room to show people who is winning this debate.
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So then the question is, all right, they're going to show up, CNN and ABC News.
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What are they going to debate? The economy, immigration, foreign policy, sure.
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But don't you think that maybe at some point Joe Biden is going to bring up
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the main theme of his campaign against Trump? Don't you think at some point Biden is going to bring up
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up January 6th, the very worst day in the history of this or any republic? Don't you think that might
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come up? Don't you think Donald Trump is a threat to democracy? Don't you think that is going to come
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up? Don't you think Donald Trump compromised national security by holding classified documents?
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Don't you think that is going to come up? Don't you think Donald Trump is on trial right now
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for violating campaign finance law? Sort of. Maybe I don't. It's actually kind of unclear what
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they're prosecuting him for. But don't you think that's going to come up? Well, if that comes up,
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Trump is legally not permitted to discuss it because the judge has implemented a gag order
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on Donald Trump in New York. Trump appealed the gag order and we find out yesterday or rather on
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Tuesday that the gag order will remain in effect. So I guess it depends how long this criminal trial
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goes on. Depends how long the gag order is implemented for. But as of today, Trump is
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prevented from making public statements about witnesses participating in the trial, counsel
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other than Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg, members of the court staff and the district
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attorney staff, the family members of any counselor staff member. And it also encompasses prospective
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jurors. There are a lot of people here. And Trump is not really allowed to talk about this case.
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And he keeps talking about this case because he's running for president, for goodness sakes.
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And this is an unprecedented persecution of a former president, not to mention current leader
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of the opposition. And so he's got to talk about it. Even if he didn't want to bring it up,
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the media are bringing it up. Joe Biden's bringing it up. Trump doesn't have a right to defend himself
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on the campaign trail while he's running for president in what is supposedly the greatest democracy in the
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world. What are they going to talk about? On the one hand, Joe Biden is saying, we want a big open
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debate. Come on, make my day, pal. Go on. Are you feeling lucky, punk? You know, he's doing his best
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Clint Eastwood impression. But then on the other hand, Biden's thugs are trying to shut Donald Trump
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up and throw him in prison. And if there is going to be a debate, make sure that nobody actually sees it
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or participates in it. Why? Because for all that bluster, go on, make my day, pal. For all that
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bluster, Joe Biden knows he's got nothing. The one thing that, the two things, I guess, that could
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help them, though they're really sort of the same thing, is if you get rid of the audience and you
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stop Trump from talking about things you don't want him to talk about, then the media can spin the
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debate and pretend that Biden won, even if he didn't. And then the extension of the media,
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the even more powerful version of the media on the internet is big tech. And big tech can also spin it.
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And this was actually the subject of my recent sit down during a Michael and with Dr. Robert Epstein.
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We published a landmark study in which we show bias in Google search results can change people's views
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about anything at all. How bad is it? I gave a briefing, a private briefing. A few minutes later,
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one of them walked out. I know exactly who it was. And he walked up to me and said, Dr. Epstein,
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based on what you just told us, I predict you're going to be killed in some sort of accident in the
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next few months. But a few months later, my beautiful, amazing wife was killed in a horrendous
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car accident. Are you deterred at all? Yes. Then there's another part of me, which is the science
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guy. Every single thing we do is relevant to everything that's happening right now. With the
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algorithms shifting the views of people who are undecided on some issue or other around the world
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by the billions. You know what? We are fucked, okay?
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The full episode is available now at the Michael Knowles YouTube channel and on Spotify and on X.
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of course, on Daily Wire Plus. Speaking of speaking out, Harrison Butker of the Kansas City Chiefs
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just gave a commencement speech at Benedictine College.
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I was ranting a week ago about how modern university commencement speeches are generally
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terrible and how comedian speeches are generally the worst of all of them. And I was surprised that
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Jerry Seinfeld, he, no knock on Seinfeld, but I was just surprised given the type of speech it was
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that he gave a good speech. Well, now we have, without question, the greatest example of a university
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commencement speech in my lifetime. This guy, Harrison Butker, is one of the most articulate,
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insightful people in public life. And I know he kicks a football for a living,
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but compared to the speeches of congressmen, senators, governors, presidents, intellectuals,
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academics, all this guy gave, it was a, it was a tour de force. It was,
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it was the best commencement speech I have ever heard that was delivered during my, I'm trying
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to think of an, of an exception, probably a hundred years ago, there were better commencement speeches
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or, or at least as, but, but I don't, I actually don't know. It was that good. Without further ado,
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Mr. Butker, take it away. As members of the church founded by Jesus Christ, it is our duty and
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ultimately privilege to be authentically and unapologetically Catholic. Don't be mistaken,
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even when we, even within the church, people in polite Catholic circles will try to persuade you to
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remain silent. There even was an award-winning film called Silence, made by a fellow Catholic,
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wherein one of the main characters, a Jesuit priest, abandoned the church and as an apostate,
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when he died is seen grasping a crucifix, quiet and unknown to anyone but God. As a friend of
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Benedictine College, His Excellency Bishop Robert Barron said in his review of the film,
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it was exactly what the cultural elite want to see in Christianity, private, hidden away, and harmless.
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Our Catholic faith has always been countercultural. Our Lord, along with countless followers,
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were all put to death for their adherence to her teachings. The world around us says that we
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should keep our beliefs to ourselves whenever they go against the tyranny of diversity, equity,
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and inclusion. Congress just passed a bill. We're stating something as basic as the biblical teaching
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of who killed Jesus could land you in jail. It goes on, and I've had to just pick small moments
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because the speech goes on for 20 minutes. This is so spot on the money. He's not just saying,
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he's obviously at a Catholic college here at Benedictine, so he's tailoring his remarks even
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more specifically in Catholic language. And it would appear that Mr. Butker is, like me,
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an attendee of the traditional Latin mass and holds the views that tend to go along with that.
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Butker comes out here and he says, when Catholicism, when the faith appears in the culture,
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what does the culture want? They want us to be quiet. They want it to all be private.
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Do you remember, this was a subtle change of language, when freedom of religion became freedom
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of worship? Those politicians used to talk about religious freedom. They don't really talk about
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that so much anymore. Now they talk about freedom of worship. Why? Because religious freedom has more
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public connotations to it. Freedom to worship, that's something you can just kind of do in your
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head, in your home, not in public, not for anybody to see. It doesn't affect anybody else. You wouldn't
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even know. And Butker says, no, we're called to public life and we're called to public professions
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of our faith. And that's going to be countercultural. It's always been countercultural. It's been
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countercultural since ancient Rome. And the political forces, they're going to try to silence us,
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like that law that the Republicans in Congress tried to pass a week or two ago, which would have
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amended Title VI to ban quoting parts of the New Testament, to ban quoting facts from the gospel.
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Totally crazy stuff. You say, how could this happen? Well, Butker says, because the culture
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has always been against the true faith, because this world is governed by principalities and powers
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and spiritual wickedness in high places. Then he goes on. That isn't even the part that went viral.
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I thought this was all, to me, the most interesting part was when he's speaking about the faith and
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the implications of the faith in public life. But the part that went viral is when Harrison
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Butker is talking about the main thing that goes viral these days, namely the relationship between
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men and women. I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you.
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How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the
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promotions and titles you're going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful
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careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited
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about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I can tell you that my
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beautiful wife, Isabel, would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began
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living her vocation as a wife and as a mother. I'm on this stage today and able to be the man I am
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because I have a wife who leans into her vocation. I'm beyond blessed with the many talents God has
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given me. But it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met
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in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of
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the most important titles of all, homemaker. The man here is on the verge of tears pouring out
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an expression of love for his wife and the libs and the feminists are accusing him of misogyny
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for saying that he loves his wife and she excels in her role as a homemaker and a mother and a wife.
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The parallel here is really even stranger because I too, Elisa and I don't quite remember
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all of the details, but we either met in sixth grade homeroom or in fifth grade district orchestra.
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And he says, oh, I met in middle school band. So even that, Harrison Butker and I were basically
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the same guy, except of course that he's an extremely successful NFL player and I have a podcast.
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But other than that, other than he's a really top athlete and I pretty much couldn't hit the ball
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and tee ball. Other than that, he and I pretty much, you know, you, you look and say, who's the
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real one? You know, who do I shoot? Which is basically indistinguishable. But on that, on that
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matter, really, we, we do have a great similarity and he's, he gets choked up with it because he says,
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I couldn't, I couldn't do what I do. I couldn't be the man that I am without my wife. That's not
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flattery. That's absolutely true. If I were, if I had to spend all of my time raising my children,
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keeping my home, managing the private life of the family, the basic building block of politics,
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if I had to, I don't know, cook the meals, clean everything, educate my children in the sense of,
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you know, the actual nuts and bolts of teaching and nurturing your children day in and day out,
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I wouldn't have one minute to do this show. It's not possible. You can, I know we live in modern life
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where we're told that, you know, if a man doesn't wash exactly 50% of the dishes,
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you know, he's a misogynist or something, but that's totally nonsense. Men and women are different.
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We're drawn to different things. And I, I, I sometimes think, oh, you know, if I didn't have
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a wife and children, I'd be so much more productive. And then I think, oh no, actually I
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wouldn't. I would be lying on the couch, watching a baseball game, eating potato chips. Probably
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that's what I'd be doing. Or I'd be out, you know, carousing at a bar or something like that.
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Of course not. It's your, your wife civilizes you and you, one hopes, uh, tame your wife or,
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or, you know, at least give some, provide some leadership to your wife. It's not, it's not just
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a one-way street that you are just purely the recipient of, of, of all the wonderful, you know,
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uh, adornments of married life from your wife. One hopes that the man contributes something too,
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and the two grow together because we become one flesh and the, and the whole is greater than the
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parts. Absolutely right. And for that, he's being called a sexist, which proves the first
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part of his speech, which is if you state basic truths in a fallen world, in a world that has
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gone mad, that is subject not totally to reason, but also to concupiscence and, uh, vice and disordered
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desires, then if you speak the truth, people are going to pillory you for it. And he's, he's
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experiencing that right now. People are pillorying him for it. Uh, but that's, uh, all the more reason
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to watch his speech and take it seriously. Now, uh, speaking of the Kansas city chiefs,
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the girlfriend of one of, uh, Mr. Butker's teammates is now, uh, a major part of a German
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church service. Taylor Swift is, uh, I guess, providing the soundtrack for the church of the
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Holy spirit, a famous church in Heidelberg that meets in a 600 year old building. The service that
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they have is called the, uh, anti-hero Taylor Swift church service. According to the pastor,
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Christophe Elcipien says the church of the Holy spirit has always been a place of encounter and
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exchange. That's why a pop music religious service fits so perfectly with it. We are giving space
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to the questions and issues that occupy the younger generation. This is so boomer. It's so I hate,
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I don't want to use the word boomer purely as a term of derision. I love my, love my parents,
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love, love my forebears, but this is so boomer. The book, this idea where it's even the generation
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before the boomers, the generation that's, uh, reformed the, the Christian liturgy after the
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second Vatican council. I don't think this is, I don't think this is a Catholic church here, but
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the effects of this major revolution within the Catholic church were felt elsewhere. And it was
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this notion that the way you're going to get the youths back in the pews is by making the church
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more like the world worldliness. That's what's going to bring the youth back. And you know what
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happened? Totally the opposite. The churches that embrace this sort of style emptied out for the
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most part. We used to have a distinction or recognize a distinction between the sacred and the
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profane. We were talking yesterday about King Charles, King Charles, who is a philosophical
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traditionalist, uh, uh, in the vein of René Guénon, the notion that modernity turns us away from the
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sacred, denies the sacred. Well, this is a great example of that. It's not that we need to be,
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you know, speaking in ecclesiastical Latin and listening to a Gregorian chant all the time,
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though it's not the worst idea to listen to Gregorian chant a lot of the time, but it's that
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there is elevated language for our liturgy because Lex Arandi, Lex Credendi, the way that we worship is
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going to reflect the way that we believe. And we don't seek the church because we want more
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worldliness. We have enough worldliness. I, I, trust me, I'm up to the brim in worldliness.
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We, we need the church because we, we want to see something beyond this world.
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We go there for the sacred. If it's just going to be a rock concert, to quote King of the Hill,
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Christian rock does not make rock and roll better. It just makes Christianity worse.
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GenuCell.com slash Knowles. Speaking of strange rituals,
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women are having rage rituals. According to USA Today, women are paying big money to scream
00:26:25.660
and smash sticks in the wood. It is called a rage ritual. Here's a little clip.
00:26:31.920
So it's some witch-looking women in what appears to be, I don't know, some kind of
00:26:44.080
east side yoga studio. Now they're in the woods, smashing sticks on the ground, shrieking.
00:26:52.380
Give it to them. Give it to them to release emotions that they're often discouraged from
00:27:05.680
Sobbing. This, when people do this and give themselves permission to release their anger,
00:27:09.540
their capacity for joy actually expands, says Maria Banducci, who's some self-appointed guru,
00:27:16.500
probable witch. Yeah. So the women screaming, shrieking, smashing things on the ground.
00:27:23.540
This was formerly known as Tuesday for some women. Now it's known as a rage ritual that you paid
00:27:29.620
thousands of dollars for. Totally wrong. Natural in a certain sense, because this is a fallen world and
00:27:38.160
there's all sorts of kooky pagan religion and people give way to all sorts of disordered passions,
00:27:42.760
but not good. And the claims that these guru witches are making, not conducive to happiness.
00:27:49.400
So what does USA Today say? Kimberly Helmus still gets chills thinking about her first rage ritual.
00:27:55.780
Two and a half years after her divorce, the cybersecurity engineer embarked on a retreat
00:27:58.820
to Scotland with Mia Banducci, that woman whose quote we just heard, an author and self-described
00:28:03.840
spiritual fairy godmother, better known as Mia Magic, Magic, M-A-G-I-K, which is often, you know,
00:28:12.880
there's magic like little tricks, you know, pull a card, any card. And then there's magic like
00:28:17.440
occult rituals where these people actually believe they're, you know, commuting with spirits and stuff.
00:28:22.440
And usually magic, the card tricks is M-A-G-I-C. And then magic, the occult satanic stuff is spelled
00:28:31.940
with a K. And so she spells it with a K, not surprised. As part of the retreat, Banducci held
00:28:36.740
a rage ritual in which the participants scream. They've garnered attention on TikTok and the women
00:28:44.680
embody their anger. And they also, by the way, pay $2,000 to $4,000 for it. Though, if you only
00:28:53.780
want to go for one day, you can get a bargain. It's only $222. Not really a good idea. Generally
00:29:01.660
speaking, any of these self-help gurus, if someone is a prominent self-help guru, you should immediately
00:29:09.620
tune them out. The self-help gurus, because the self-help gurus are fraudulent imitations of
00:29:17.920
philosophers and priests. So they're not as smart or logical as the philosophers. They're certainly not
00:29:30.580
as wise and knowledgeable about the human condition as the priests. And they're certainly,
00:29:38.620
they also don't have the sanctity and consecration that goes along with being an actual member of
00:29:47.040
the priesthood. They're just frauds. It's all just fraud. They're basically the same as the people
00:29:51.280
who have the little shop in the strip mall, palm readings here, get your tarot cards read.
00:29:55.940
That's these spiritual gurus. But it's not just that they're frauds and it's a waste of money.
00:30:00.500
They're actually quite bad for you. They're contrary to your health. This is why traditionally in our
00:30:07.020
civilization for 2,000 years following the Bible, we don't consult these kinds of people.
00:30:12.180
Not just because they're silly and it's a waste of money, but because it's actually bad for your
00:30:15.320
health. Because the theory that Mia Banducci, this witch, is describing here, is kind of like
00:30:24.320
a Freudian theory. It's one of these self-help theories that comes out of Freud, which is this
00:30:30.960
notion that we just have a lot of pent up rage and energy and emotion. And we've just got to blow off
00:30:37.580
a little steam every now and again. And if we don't blow off a little steam, we'll explode.
00:30:41.340
So you got to blow off a little steam and then that will restore your body to equilibrium and your
00:30:45.800
mind to health. That's not really how it works. That view is contrary to the classical and Christian
00:30:51.200
view, which is that we're not steam engines. We're creatures of habit. And so if you're the sort of
00:30:57.880
person who practices screaming and yelling and hating people, you are actually more likely to
00:31:03.260
do that in the future. It's going to be easier for you to scream and yell and hate people.
00:31:06.420
And it's going to be much harder for you to have patience and resignation and love because you are
00:31:12.900
what you do repeatedly. We are creatures of habit and virtue and vice are habits too.
00:31:20.180
A lot of modern women are going to be told to do this and they're going to fall into it. And really
00:31:23.760
at a broader level, this is what all of modern feminism says. Modern feminism says, no, no,
00:31:31.440
you're not to love your husband. You're not to be complimentary to your husband. You're to hate
00:31:37.340
your husband. You're going to become the praying mantis of human beings. You're going to compete
00:31:41.240
with your husband. Everything's going to be a big fight and a battle and a negotiation for your
00:31:45.560
personal interest. And then when you don't get exactly what you want because you didn't know what
00:31:50.820
you wanted or because your husband beat you in the argument or I don't know, just because you're the
00:31:54.600
weaker sex, you're going to go out to the woods. You're going to pay some scam artist four grand
00:31:57.860
and you're going to scream and yell and break things. That's what you're going to do.
00:32:02.740
Why do they do this? They do this because they are unhappy people and they are unhappy because they
00:32:10.040
do this. It's kind of like fat bastard in Austin Powers, you know, I'm unhappy because I eat and I eat
00:32:17.480
because I'm unhappy. That's why the self-help addicts, the self-help addicts
00:32:24.080
are unhappy because they focus on the self and they focus on the self because they are unhappy.
00:32:33.060
And so it becomes this reinforcing circle. It goes on and on and on and they get more miserable.
00:32:38.920
I've never seen anyone become happier reading all this self-help crap and going to the woods and
00:32:44.640
listening to some self-help guru, which tell you to smash things. Never seen anyone get happier.
00:32:49.740
I have seen people get happier reading the true self-help book called the Bible. I have seen people
00:32:55.600
get happier going to church rather than, you know, the smash the sticks in the woods camp.
00:33:01.880
But why is that? There are many, many reasons that are more theologically profound than what I'm
00:33:08.340
about to say. But here's a basic reason. Because when you go to church, at least if it's a good
00:33:14.320
church, you're not focusing on yourself. Self-help is a recipe for misery because a man wrapped up in
00:33:23.880
himself makes a small package indeed. Right now, you should subscribe to the Michael Knowles YouTube
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channel. Smash that like button. Ring that bell. Ding dong ding that thing. Speaking of mental illness,
00:33:40.060
Peru has just declared transgenderism a mental illness. Stop the presses. A fellow who thinks
00:33:50.020
he's a chick is a little kooky. Don't extra extra read all about it. The government of Peru has just
00:33:56.400
signed a supreme decree defining transsexuality as a mental disorder as part of an update to the
00:34:02.820
nation's essential health insurance plan. And this has prompted outrage from, and this is, I'm just
00:34:08.420
reading it from whichever outlet I was reading this in, the LGBTQIAP2S plus community. It's prompted
00:34:19.900
outrage. But there's an irony here because Peru did not declare transgenderism a mental illness.
00:34:26.400
To own the libs or anything like that. Peru declared it a mental illness so that people who
00:34:33.740
suffer from this confusion can get medical treatment. So the irony is that this declaration
00:34:41.280
was meant to mollify and pacify the LGBT LMNOP community. And they were angry about it because
00:34:50.340
they're angry about everything because they're always screaming and crying and demanding more nonsense.
00:34:54.660
But with this definition, if you identify as transgender or have some other gender identity,
00:35:03.080
you can have access to different health insurance. And this is part of the issue for the trans identity
00:35:09.540
is because the men who think that they're women aren't actually women, then many of them, if they
00:35:17.780
really pursue this ideology, will desire very, very expensive medical treatments that won't actually
00:35:25.960
help them. But they will be very expensive and they will chop up their bodies and they will fill
00:35:29.940
them with hormones and they will do all sorts of things. And those are very, very expensive. So they
00:35:33.660
need to justify the medical treatment. And the only way to justify that is to say that there's
00:35:40.160
something wrong with you. But the transgender activists refuse to say there's anything wrong
00:35:45.820
with them. They say, this is totally normal. Okay, well, if it's totally normal and you're just
00:35:48.700
operating perfectly, then you don't need all the expensive medical treatment. But you obviously do
00:35:53.120
want the expensive medical treatment, even though it's going to hurt you. So you have to admit that
00:35:56.260
there's something wrong with you, but they won't do that. This isn't even making Peru an outlier here
00:36:03.180
to say that transgenderism is a mental illness. We all know it is. But even in America, we currently
00:36:10.520
define transgenderism as a mental illness. Even in the current DSM, the Diagnostic and Statistical
00:36:17.360
Manual for Psychology, the current one, we still say it's a mental illness. It's in there.
00:36:23.000
We used to call it, before 2013, we called it gender identity disorder. Then with political
00:36:29.060
correctness in 2013, we've started calling it gender dysphoria. But it's the same thing,
00:36:33.540
and it's in the DSM because it's a psychological problem. We do it too. We do it too, and then we
00:36:43.080
encourage it. It's one of the few, it might be the only mental illness that we universally
00:36:50.040
acknowledge to be a mental illness, implicitly or explicitly, and then encourage it. Because I guess
00:36:56.380
I guess that makes us a crazy country. If you're the kind of country that encourages craziness
00:37:01.100
and subsidizes craziness and mandates craziness as a matter of law, I guess that makes you a crazy
00:37:07.400
country, doesn't it? Now, speaking of things contrary to human flourishing, apparently there's
00:37:13.920
a new Planet of the Apes movie, news to me, and the new stars of the new Planet of the Apes movie,
00:37:19.060
they've decided to really reinvent their characters and reinvent the franchise because they
00:37:25.520
are taking the side of the Apes over the humans.
00:37:29.240
Listen, obviously, when I'm playing May, I'm team human, but I'm team ape. Freya's team ape.
00:37:45.140
Look at what the humans have done to the Earth.
00:37:48.020
Well, yeah. I dislike humans a lot, you know. You know, there's the odd one that's like,
00:37:53.740
no. I mean, there are, you know, there are times where you see humans come together and
00:37:57.720
you go, oh, isn't this lovely? And then there's times where you go, I absolutely hate us.
00:38:03.320
Yeah. None of this surprises me at all. It's kind of funny because the whole point of Planet
00:38:08.900
of the Apes is you're on the side of the humans against these ape overlords and the new
00:38:13.120
actors, they say, no, no, but in reality, yeah, sure, in the movie, yeah, but in reality, I hate
00:38:17.080
humans. Right. The liberals hate humans because, I'm just going to speak very bluntly here,
00:38:26.100
because the liberals are largely enthralled to demons who hate humans and want to destroy us.
00:38:30.640
That's kind of it. The spiritual darkness and principalities and powers of this world that I
00:38:35.100
mentioned earlier, they are expressed politically through liberals who have a false anthropology
00:38:43.480
and whose policies are contrary to human flourishing. And you see this in really direct
00:38:49.540
ways, like how they advocate killing as many babies as possible and killing old people and
00:38:55.740
sterilizing human beings and encouraging people not to get married and encouraging people not to have
00:39:00.240
babies. Even if you don't believe in spiritual reality, metaphysics, let's say you don't believe
00:39:05.240
in angels and demons, let's say you don't even believe in God. Okay. If demons were to exist,
00:39:10.460
I think we would all acknowledge that the sort of policies they would be pursuing are exactly these
00:39:16.560
policies, right? Very anti-human, killing people off, not making everyone miserable and raging and
00:39:23.880
going out into the woods and beating up sticks and screaming, right? If there were such a thing as a
00:39:28.860
demon, that would appear to me to be the kind of thing a demon would desire. Anyway, this is how
00:39:34.580
the liberals are. They are misanthropic. They don't like people. They like humanity in the abstract,
00:39:39.700
but they don't really like people. And you see this expressed in a lack of charity because charity is
00:39:46.300
one of the three theological virtues. We have the cardinal virtues. We have the natural virtues,
00:39:50.420
intellectual virtues, and moral virtues, things like courage, justice, prudence, temperance.
00:39:55.260
Then there's the theological virtues, faith, hope, and charity. And the greatest of these is charity.
00:39:58.980
Love for your fellow humans. So it is kind of an odd reversal. For the libs, they love humanity in
00:40:05.700
the abstract, but they hate the individual humans. For the conservatives, and especially for the
00:40:10.460
Christians, we have a pretty dim view of humanity in the abstract because we're so fallen and we know
00:40:16.700
that human nature is broken and we're not going to perfect it through our own efforts in this world.
00:40:22.260
Ain't no utopia that we're going to arrive at here politically. But we love humans individually.
00:40:27.780
Hence, a common expression, hate the sin, love the sinner. For the libs, it's totally the opposite.
00:40:35.560
Great way to prove this, especially after, you know, major Democrat politicians call for killing
00:40:41.300
babies up to the moment of birth. Some of them call for killing them after the moment of birth.
00:40:45.140
Doesn't make many waves in politics. Christy Noem shoots her farm dog. That's all we hear about for
00:40:51.300
two weeks. There was a study in 2013, 40% of people answered this study in a crazy way. The study said,
00:40:58.220
if a stranger were drowning and your pet were drowning, who would you save? 40% said the pet.
00:41:07.000
46% of women said the pet. They would save the pet over a human being. That's how we think. That's
00:41:13.820
how we think now. Very, very disordered. Maybe we are living in a planet of the apes. We're being,
00:41:19.000
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to take responsibility today. My favorite comment yesterday comes from KW91, who says,
00:42:49.720
I don't care what Mike says about that King Charles portrait being traditional. It looks like Charles
00:42:53.940
wearing Hugh Hefner's loungewear. Fair enough. But I never said the portrait was traditional.
00:42:59.620
The portrait is definitely not traditional, but the portrait is about King Charles's traditionalism.
00:43:07.340
And that is why it doesn't belong in Buckingham Palace, because it's, you know, it's quite modern,
00:43:12.180
the portrait. But it's why it's a good piece of art. Actually, it's a good portrait. And it's why it should hang
00:43:17.620
maybe a little down the street in a museum. It's a very good portrait, and it makes a very good
00:43:21.480
point. Speaking of women, Gail King, who is the co-anchor of CBS Mornings. She's a longtime friend
00:43:32.340
of Oprah Winfrey. There have always been these rumors that she and Oprah are, you know, like more
00:43:36.840
than friends. But I don't know if that's true. I don't see any particular reason why that's true.
00:43:41.680
But she's a big lib. In lib media world, she is, she's not the queen, but she might be a princess or
00:43:52.140
a duchess or something. Well, Gail King, at the age of 69, is making her debut as a Sports Illustrated
00:43:59.260
swimsuit model. And there are all sorts of pictures and videos of it. We don't need to see too many of
00:44:06.060
them. She is a fine looking woman for 69 years old. But this is not good. Now, I'm not sure that
00:44:12.580
anyone has read Sports Illustrated in the last 15 years. And so they keep trying to pursue all these
00:44:17.080
gimmicks, you know. But this is not good. It's weird. We all know it's weird. Even if Gail King
00:44:25.160
were a supermodel, it's still weird. It's age 69. And it's especially weird for just kind of normal
00:44:31.300
looking 69-year-olds. Why? Why is it wrong? Because this is not what 69-year-old women are
00:44:39.460
for. Okay, you know, you know a thing by what it is for. And 69-year-old women are not for the cover
00:44:50.920
of the Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition. Whether you love Sports Illustrated, whether you like seeing
00:44:57.820
women in skimpy little bathing suits, whether you think that's wrong and disordered. And Sports
00:45:02.660
Illustrated should go away and we shouldn't have whatever. I think we can all agree. The purpose
00:45:09.480
of the swimsuit edition is not to show nearly 70-year-old women. And it's not the tea loss
00:45:20.340
of a nearly 70-year-old woman to prance around in a bathing suit.
00:45:27.220
Younger women, there's a good reason for them to prance around in a bathing suit sometimes because
00:45:32.900
these younger women are going to attract a husband. And then they're going to get married
00:45:37.420
and they're going to have children. And there are certain things that mothers do that single women
00:45:42.800
don't do and vice versa. And there are certain things that older women do that younger women don't
00:45:47.660
do and vice versa. But we deny that. We deny that anything has a purpose anymore that is objective.
00:45:53.780
It's all just totally subjective and subject to our own will, not to reason. And we deny time. We
00:46:02.100
deny aging. We deny history. We deny that things move and that there's a time for every season under
00:46:09.700
heaven, a time for war and a time for peace, a time to embrace and a time to refrain from embracing,
00:46:14.860
a time to pose in skimpy outfits on Sports Illustrated and a time not to put the Sports
00:46:21.060
Illustrated swimsuit issue away. We deny that because we deny the body and we deny that we're
00:46:28.040
going to die. In the past, at the height of our civilization, we would think about how we're going
00:46:32.800
to die all the time because it's only from the perspective of death that we can understand our
00:46:36.940
own lives and the purpose of our lives and how maybe we're not built for this world because we're
00:46:40.500
not going to be here for very long and we need to think about eternal things. Is the soul going to
00:46:44.860
persist after death? Is there something more here? If so, where are we going? That's going to affect
00:46:50.520
very much how you live your life. We deny all of that. But it's all still true. Those facts of reality
00:46:59.340
are all still there. And when we deny them, we just make ourselves look ridiculous on the cover of
00:47:05.020
magazines in swimsuits. Now, Gayle King is fit for her age. Another guy who's pretty fit for his age,
00:47:12.700
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. You got to hand it to the guy. He's actually in pretty good shape
00:47:15.720
for an older guy who had a worm eat part of his brain. And RFK Jr. is still theoretically running
00:47:22.540
for president. And he is not going quietly into that night of oblivion. No, no.
00:47:27.440
The debate has been announced. Trump versus Biden, CNN, ABC. And RFK responds.
00:47:37.300
I'm happy to report that I will meet the criteria to participate in the CNN debate before the June
00:47:41.620
20th deadline. I look forward to holding Presidents Biden and Trump accountable for their records in
00:47:46.160
Atlanta on June 27th to give Americans the debate they deserve. Hashtag Kennedy Shanahan 24.
00:47:52.700
The only problem with this, of course, is that Bobby Kennedy was not invited to the debate.
00:48:00.180
It's a debate between the two people who could be president next November. Kennedy will not be
00:48:09.340
president. He will not be elected. There's not a chance. I'm not totally opposed to him showing up
00:48:14.680
to the debate. I'm not exactly in favor of it. The reason I'm not totally opposed is that,
00:48:21.220
as I've said from the beginning, Kennedy takes more votes from Biden than from Trump.
00:48:24.620
However, because of that, he's running to be the better Biden. And if he's running to be the
00:48:29.380
better Biden, he might show up to the debate and just hammer Trump because he's got to show
00:48:34.020
Democrat voters that he is better at doing the job as a Democratic nominee, namely hammering Donald
00:48:38.880
Trump. So there is political risk here for Trump. I see why Trump doesn't want him to show up.
00:48:42.920
I certainly see why Joe Biden doesn't want him to show up. It's a wild card. You don't
00:48:46.300
necessarily want a wild card in politics. So probably he will not be there.
00:48:53.340
Trump is getting an interesting defender right now, though. And I guess this is going to have
00:48:58.440
to be my tease because, as usual, we're running short on time. But in this big debate between
00:49:05.500
Biden and Trump, Trump is getting some defense from Mitt Romney, his old nemesis.
00:49:13.300
Mitt Romney is actually attacking Joe Biden and the Democrats, but specifically Biden for
00:49:19.720
allowing this prosecution of Trump in New York to go on. And it's not for the reasons maybe that
00:49:27.480
you would think. Romney is still being very, very cynical here. But we'll get to those reasons
00:49:33.980
tomorrow because today is Theology Thursday and the rest of the show continues now in the
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